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@HassanMohamed-rm1cb
2 ай бұрын
Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a KZitem Videos all about the 🦥 Phylogeny Group Of Xenarthra (Edentata)🦥, such as Armadillos, Glyptodonts, Pampatheres, Anteaters, Tamanduas, Tree Sloths, Ground Sloths, And Aquatic Sloths on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
@HassanMohamed-rm1cb
2 ай бұрын
Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a KZitem Videos all about the 🥚Phylogeny Group Of Monotremes (Egg-Laying Mammals)🥚, such as Platypuses and Echidnas on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
@redschafer7804
2 ай бұрын
ya more drama for clicks i'll pass may be just stick to posting able the animals like you did with the Iguana video
@areallyshortbrontothere
2 ай бұрын
@@redschafer7804 I think I had an aneurysm trying to read this
@heliumhubcryptocollective9337
2 ай бұрын
next theory to investigate, the theory that evolution had been going on this planet but human development was fast tracked by aliens approximately 200K years ago. All hail the big giant head
@aspermwhalespontaneouslyca8938
2 ай бұрын
Imagine being so wholesome you get into religious issues and you receive almost no hate. You are a great man, Clint.
@Pohgrey
2 ай бұрын
Yup, tho I do note that the only "hate" I'm aware of being directed toward him was being featured on "Whack an Atheist..." Even tho he isn't an atheist...
@beclouise8686
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. He doesn't come at it from a place driven by emotion and defense.
@XraynPR
2 ай бұрын
Sort by new on the last vido about this, theres a few people with the usual creationist arguments and being mean
@AdairPastos
2 ай бұрын
Him and Joseph Carter (Minkman) are role models for everyone.
@theaveragefloridaman3655
2 ай бұрын
He's coming at it as nice as possible, and just slapping them in the face with irrefutable facts, one after another. Fukn GOAT
@iluvtacos1231
2 ай бұрын
As an atheist and someone who frequents anti-YEC KZitem channels (Gutsick Gibbon, DapperDino, Creation Myths, etc), it's very refreshing to hear a Christian who very clearly knows their stuff also going "no, evolution is real".
@JediMasterEzio
2 ай бұрын
Now, we just need this Christian to apply that evidence based thought process towards the religion itself...
@antoniaweber8074
2 ай бұрын
I used to too but I only know gutsick gibbon of these, for me it is more viced rino, prohed of zod and forest Valky
@sunnijo
2 ай бұрын
@@JediMasterEzioDude, don’t be like that
@iluvtacos1231
2 ай бұрын
@@JediMasterEzio Calm down there, edgelord.
@iluvtacos1231
2 ай бұрын
@@antoniaweber8074 Can't believe I forgot Forrest. He's great. VR and PoZ are also great and I watch them a lot too, but they're atheism in general channels.
@eliharris7300
Ай бұрын
"you can still be on the right side of an argument and make a terrible case for your side" dude that's amazing
@davidhayden6481
Ай бұрын
"I don't wanna be part of this clade anymore!" "You can grow up and start your own clade, but you'll always be part of my clade" -Vin Diesels ancestors, probably
@danielfitzpatrick4873
Ай бұрын
Never turn your back on clade doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
@wyattmiller9539
Ай бұрын
@@danielfitzpatrick4873 Never turn your back on phylogenetic cladistics.
@magellan6439
11 күн бұрын
There it is @@wyattmiller9539
@gregwillis4001
2 ай бұрын
I was walking in Clint's Reptile Room and saw a lizard on his hind legs telling jokes. I turned to Clint and said, "That lizard is really funny!" Clint replied, "That's not a lizard. He's a stand-up chameleon."
@testogel85
2 ай бұрын
get off the stage xD
@lightningninja6905
2 ай бұрын
@testogel85 Yeah, get off so the chameleon can crack jokes!
@pantalonesdemuerto7960
2 ай бұрын
Take my like and get out
@david2869
2 ай бұрын
badup-chhh!
@kluk8284
2 ай бұрын
But Clint told us chameleons ARE lizards
@cristianespinal9917
2 ай бұрын
"It's just a theory," says everyone who doesn't know the technical definition of "theory" and uses it interchangeably with the colloquial definition.
@blitsriderfield4099
2 ай бұрын
And also matpat
@mell5955
2 ай бұрын
it's so funny because, at least at my school, anyone who took the flippin' sophomore-level class, biology, learned the definition of a theory and such other terms.
@cristianespinal9917
2 ай бұрын
@@mell5955 theoretically, they did anyway
@SweetOdinsRavens
2 ай бұрын
@mell5955 nobody at your school paid attention to science, I can promise you that. The vast majority of people don't care enough to remember STEM courses from before college.
@michaelmay5453
2 ай бұрын
It's specifically a scientific theory.
@Trynedge
Ай бұрын
Coming from an atheist (Howdy!), I have known you were a Christian for some time, and I love love love your channel. Your religious beliefs do not interfere with your scientific training and education and your expertise and knowledge of taxonomy, biology, and zoology are quite apparent to anyone watching. You're awesome, I adore you and your content, and many atheists who are just deconstructing and coming out of religion tend to go through an 'ahole' phase 😅 That's on them, not on you. You keep doing you, Clint, much love buddy! And great video, thank you!
@kristinwright6632
Ай бұрын
I grew up in a Christian family as a devout Christian and everyone I connected with were also Christian. I never even heard of young earth creationism until the last 20 years or so and it seemed crazy to me. A vast number of Christians know that evolution is established science. You just don't hear about them so much these days because the young earth creationists are screaming so loud. Other than you I don't know any other believers who take that position publicly and it is very frustrating.
@sylvainsanesti3499
27 күн бұрын
I feel like a lot of Christians believe in evolution but they don't necessarily know how to bring the two together in a coherent way, so it's a little akward for them to talk about it.
@kristinwright6632
27 күн бұрын
@@sylvainsanesti3499 agreed. I remember when I read the creation story as a kid I had really not considered it a myth but it also didn't really make any sense as literal. I kind of ignored it. I trusted science. Heck my dad was a rocket scientist, literally. I just never thought about the bible stories as whether they were mythological or not. As I got older I never really probed that. It was other things that drove me out of Christianity. I'm now a happy neoPagan enjoying the gaining in inspiration from all the sacred mythologies on the planet including Christianity. Literal fact to me has no place in a spiritual practice. It exists in a different place IMO.
@WillyOrca
23 күн бұрын
@@sylvainsanesti3499 I rationalize it like this; Satan's great deception on mankind was to convince Adam and Eve to eat fruit from the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. God may recognize the potential hazards of humans obtaining information/knowledge that they do not fully understand, and the dangerous extrapolations they may draw from such knowledge. Perhaps he was aware that human beings lacked the required hardware to ever understand the mechanics of God, or that we would only ever recognize his hand if it were applied directly in a manner that he does not operate. If he knew that a deeper understanding of his own operational mechanisms would cause humans to draw incorrect conclusions about his existence due to an inability to grasp the larger picture, it would explain Satan's incentive for getting us to eat the fruit, as well as God's reasoning for limiting the information we are given. Our scientific breakthroughs, and our sci-fi level technology likely does not impress God whatsoever, because we were not put here to "go forth and do science". We were told to reproduce and live Godly lives in tune with his natural order.
@kariscoyne1886
2 ай бұрын
Amazed that anyone was surprised you're religious, you have the strongest 'youth minister' energy I've ever seen, and that's including actual youth ministers
@ClintsReptiles
2 ай бұрын
😂
@OhhCrapGuy
2 ай бұрын
As an atheist that grew up Christian, I have NEVER trusted anyone that goes out of their way to tell people that they're religious. Every time I see a Bible passage quoted on a business card, I simply assume that the person is untrustworthy and likely using their supposed faith as a way to trick others into trusting them, or worse, believes that people that aren't their particular flavor of religious don't deserve to be treated with respect. On the other hand, I have found that if it only comes up when relevant, and only after a while, like with Clint? That person is, without exception, decent, kind, and trustworthy.
@jiaswan22
2 ай бұрын
@@OhhCrapGuyAs a Christian, I 100% agree with you. Religion is a big part of my life, but I only mention it to people if it comes up naturally. People trying to forcibly announce their religion often are trying to appear the part because they don’t have the integrity to actually follow the values of their religion. I will give an exception for people whose job (be that actual employment or volunteer work) is their religion. (Nuns, monks, ministers, imams, service coordinator for a religion, etc). In that case, so much of their life revolves around religion that it just is what they talk about naturally.
@guilherme2295
2 ай бұрын
@@OhhCrapGuy just like atheist take every opportunity they can to tell everyone they are atheist...like you just did.
@markstyles1246
2 ай бұрын
It's, in the best and... cutest (yeah, I'll go with that) possible way, very, "How do you do, fellow Christians? Let's rap about Science!". And he shouldn't change that :-) .
@giovannigutierrez6916
2 ай бұрын
I am an athiest, it makes me sad to see so many other non-believers so starkly opposed to any statement from theists. It is fallacious to assume that theists are, by nature, bad faith. Basically every professor I had in college was a theist, they taught me how to do science. My ability to do science has never been hampered by this fact.
@lilyfhonazhel2675
2 ай бұрын
It's because theism turn people blind and stupid. Theism and religion hamper the ability of people to have a bigger perspective and to learn things scientifically. It overstayed its welcome.
@lilyfhonazhel2675
2 ай бұрын
The world will be better without religion. Most wars were caused by religion, specifically Christianity.
@Im__useless
2 ай бұрын
While I agree with you I do also think that being a theist and a scientist is kinda weird. You follow evidence except in this one specific case
@darylwilliams7883
2 ай бұрын
Everyone should oppose any statement by a theist that is untrue. No-one should automatically respect any statement just because it comes from a theist. Theist and atheism have nothing to do with scientific reality.
@crow-dont-know
2 ай бұрын
while I am very accepting of theistic positions, when it comes to professional creationists it has become increasingly apparent that they are typically very dishonest, misrepresenting scientific evidence, making strawman arguments and outright lying. I can think of only one professional creationist, Todd Wood, who I believe is a good faith actor; I can think of many others who are not.
@formerlyLadyMacbeth
Ай бұрын
I think, personally, the most influential thing that got me to accept evolution actually was to realize that its an active field of research and that there are many things we don't know, and that if I really wanted to wrap my head around it or find alternative explanations, the best way would to become a scientist myself.
@paulnixon6587
Ай бұрын
As a former YEC, now atheist, I greatly appreciate Christians like you Clint. Your content is fun, informative and well articulated. Thank you for what you do and keep up the great work.
@bubbajenkins123
2 ай бұрын
All birds are dinosaurs, but not all dinosaurs are birds. A pickle is a cucumber, but not all cucumbers are pickles. Not a perfect argument, but it is something a layperson can wrap their mind around
@crow-dont-know
2 ай бұрын
A bird is a dinosaur in a similar way to a cat being a mammal.
@otterylexa4499
2 ай бұрын
Not all pickles are cucumbers, although I will agree that all pickle(d cucumbers) are cucumbers. Pickling is a process which can be applied to any biological matter. A pickled beetroot is not a cucumber, a pickled egg is most definitely not. There's also sauerkraut (middle European pickled cabbage), kimchi (South-East Asian spicy pickled cabbage) and sillage (pickled grass for animal feed). There's a linguistic tendency to drop the specific parts of a description which I find distressing. It might be my bias but it seems more prevalent in US English. I see it also in phrases like "vehicles, busses, trains and planes" where the other items are all types of vehicle and vehicle is made to stand for something like personal road vehicle. ETA: otherwise I agree with you, I just felt the need to be pedantic about pickles.
@ciarz_
2 ай бұрын
@@otterylexa4499 If someone offered me a pickle and then served me a pickled eel I would punch them. All jokes aside I have never heard anyone refer to a dish as a pickle aside from pickled cucumbers, but my experience with English is also limited.
@otterylexa4499
2 ай бұрын
@@ciarz_ I would expect "a pickle" to be Branston's Pickle or Pickalily or something similar (a spiced pickled medley of chopped vegetables), although I am aware of the US use.
@crow-dont-know
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, having grown up in the UK, if somebody asked me to pass them the pickle, I’d be handing over a jar of Branston, not a Gherkin. If my Indian mother asked me, I’d be passing a jar of Brinjal Pickle.
@xxcl0n3xx
2 ай бұрын
Just here to join the "Atheists Who Support Clint" club. I don't let anyone's personal beliefs in the un-testable and un-provable change how I think about them. It's only when people turn their minds away from provable, testable information that I stop trusting their ability to reason.
@jpe1
2 ай бұрын
Clint has clearly turned his mind away from the provable, he has openly said that he believes in God, so by your statement you should stop trusting his ability to reason. And I agree with you, people who turn their minds away from provable, testable information are hard to trust to reason correctly, and I no longer hold Clint in the same high regard as I did prior to his statement.
@Hunterr8
2 ай бұрын
@@jpe1I'm guessing you stayed 6ft away because "experts" told you to? Your pride is your downfall.
@Hunterr8
2 ай бұрын
@@jpe1your pride is your downfall.
@jpe1
2 ай бұрын
@@Hunterr8 since I have no idea who you are or anything about you, your comment is both meaningless and irrelevant. My pride in what? What downfall? In what way do the two correlate? You have zero content on your channel yet you have 36 subscribers, that’s usually the hallmark of a fake account used as part of an influence campaign, yet I can’t guess what possible influence campaign would care about my comments 🤷♂️
@LoafLobster
2 ай бұрын
@@jpe1That’s kind of an insane take. You’re the kind of guy to throw the baby out with the bath water. Clint clearly displays the ability to reason and he knows what he’s talking about. You don’t know Clint so you don’t know his reasonings or his beliefs. You’re the one making wild assumptions without evidence or reasoning. Plenty of scientists choose to follow a religion for plenty of good reasons.
@hedoraht
Ай бұрын
I despise the mindset that many young earth creationists (and atheists, though in a different way) have where someone is either a Christian or an "evolutionist" atheist to the point that they define christians who support evolution as atheists. Thank you for sharing your perspective on this without hiding your faith.
@heyyou2720
Ай бұрын
I am in the minority of my church that believes in both God as benevolent creator and that humans share a common ancestor with apes. I see science as an attempt to explain the natural world and the holy Bible as one attempt among many to teach morality and spiritual growth to humanity. They don't necessarily contradict each other.
@theguyfromsaturn
24 күн бұрын
@@heyyou2720 I am among the majority of my church that believes the same as you do. Heck even the Pope made a statements several years ago supporting this view point.
@fallen_vague28
19 күн бұрын
I _think_ it's because of the stories of Adam and Eve, how God created Adam from clay and Eve from his rib, that they were the first humans. If you believe in that, or at least believe in the book that contains those kinds of stories, then how can you also support evolution? Since evolution goes all the way back to the beginning of Earth. It doesn't help that young Earth creationists exist, despite the evidence of things being older than however long young Earth creations believe. So it further skews their image of Christians But obviously I don't know why or how they think, it's just my thought process
@dasani.like.the.water.
Ай бұрын
I’m not an atheist, I would say that i’m more agnostic. However, I want to apologize for how rude a lot of atheists were to you. It’s nice seeing a religious person with your views on evolution. I’m just so used to seeing Evangelicals denying science. So thank you Clint, keep up the awesome videos!
@saldiven2009
2 ай бұрын
The "evolution is just a theory" argument is proof that whoever is making that argument stopped paying attention in science class sometime around middle school.
@matthewherzel264
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, there are entire networks of Christian schools that teach exactly that, including K-12 schools and accredited U.S. universities. I sat through actual high school science classes that argued that the world was around 6,000 years old, humans used to live for hundreds of years, ancient humans had sex with angels, a global flood is the cause of all extant geology, and "evolutionists" were purposefully indoctrinating children in dangerous demonic ideas. And yet it's evangelical Christians that claim our public schools are indoctrinating kids. Good grief.
@AngelEmfrbl
2 ай бұрын
It sadly comes from the ignorant older generations whose science lessons were extremely poor.
@saldiven2009
2 ай бұрын
@@AngelEmfrbl I'm 52, and I was taught the difference between hypothesis, theory, and law in the science context sometime prior to 10th grade. Back in the 80's, I had AP biology and physics. I think you'd be surprised how difficult college-prep level high school courses were 40 years ago. It isn't a matter of age or generation. It's a matter of being interested in learning. If you poke around enough on KZitem, you'll find plenty of 20-something Christians who parrot the same "evolution is only a theory" nonsense. Carlson doesn't know what the scientific definition of a "theory" is because knowing that definition would conflict with his chosen world view. I'm willing to bet that he's been informed of the actual meaning many times, but ignoring it allows him to avoid questioning his own beliefs.
@daftwulli6145
2 ай бұрын
What is even funnier is how often I stumble across a creationist who claims to really have studied evolution (often even claiming they took college level classes), but the more the stjudied it the more things they found that wherhe completely illogical, ort based solely on assumptzions to save the theory. But as soon as you ask for examples they got nothing , and it becomes obvious very quickly they could not explain highschool level evolution to save their life. But this has been a pretty recent phenomenon at least at this scale. Usually I would see one every couple months , but now they are everywhere. I suspect some video went viral in their circles where they showed a fake discussion in which the creationist "wins" since "he knows way more about evolution then the atheist after studying it in college" or something, and now they think this woukld work in the real world. Or maybe it is because of this classroom series by AIG where a stjdent constantly exposes their atheist teacher, despite making argument that my 10 year old nephew could run rings arround. They shoud have read the comments, they got debunked so hard that half of the videos in the series had to turn of the comments.
@user-lo4np1bs1r
2 ай бұрын
Give me your best evidence right now for proof of demonstrated macro evolution @@daftwulli6145
@spencerviggers1246
2 ай бұрын
Atheist here. That you believe in God makes this video MUCH more interesting. And thank you for being civil to both sides.
@josue1996jc
2 ай бұрын
also an atheist here, altho i do not believe in creationism i do thinks there is something fishy in our DNA, i actually study genetics rigth now, and the ways our dna works is WAY to complex to have just spotaneusly emerged, maybe simpler forms of DNA could but the problem is that even the oldest single cells we know off have the same basic cellular functions as our own. for example the way the dna envelopes itself in a sphere when stored, in a way that a string can be pulled from anywhere and it won't ever tangle withing itself, that's a propiety that cant be found anywere else in the nature, and just like that one there are countles of those propertie+s in our DNA, some we re just discovering, like the fact that its own electric field and the ones on each particules that compose the dna have effects almost as important as the sequence itself. i have always thought life could just emerge using the same principles as evolution, but thats just wrong, the evolution is a byproduct of life itself but life has nothing to evolve from.
@Paldasan
2 ай бұрын
FWIW as someone who is a Christian outside the whole US Evangelical socio-political complex very little of the teaching I have encountered promotes YEC and only slightly more OEC. Christians have been long aware (and have been the instigators through literary criticism) that the 2 creation accounts in Genesis are myths and not to be read literally.
@diarmuidkuhle8181
2 ай бұрын
There have always been plenty of people who were both religious and scientifically minded. Newton saw science as the way by which man could explore the works of God. And the guy who first proposed the big bang was an ordained priest. There's only really a conflict for people who insist on taking their scripture word-for-word as fact, and this literalism is a relatively new trend. I have no problem with Christians or any other religious people who accept science.
@theodoricstevenson3905
2 ай бұрын
nearly most famous scientists were religious and created the science we have today. Atheist really only just joined the scientific community recently. But tend to be the loudest and most obnoxious. Keep setting a good example for the others.
@jpe1
2 ай бұрын
@@theodoricstevenson3905nice logic trap there, pre-ad-hominem attacking any argument against your position brought by atheists as being “obnoxious” and using “nearly most famous” as a modifier of “scientists” so that you can reject any counter-example as being insufficiently famous, or, if it’s someone inarguably famous like Einstein (who described himself using the words “agnostic” and “religious nonbeliever”) you can say that he’s an exception, not part of the “nearly most” that you claim. If I were more ambitious I would give a list of the Nobel prize winners in physics and chemistry, and their religious belief or lack thereof, and bring some actual data to this argument, but I very much doubt that any amount of data will change your thinking, you want to believe what you currently believe, facts be damned. And yes, I’m fully cognizant of the fact that you will dismiss this in its entirety for being “obnoxious.”
@lace7458
Ай бұрын
I am amazed by your ability to be polite and affirmative, you seem like someone who would actually be able to hold a pleasant conversation on the subject.
@preciousrobot
Ай бұрын
I’m a staunch atheist and I’ve been watching your videos for a while now. While I don’t agree, I think it’s super awesome to see believers acknowledge evidence and not dismiss it entirely. I’m not against believing in a God, I just see no evidence for it. This 2 part series has also been my absolute favorite type of video you have done, please do more!!!
@GlassShardBallPit
2 ай бұрын
A minute in, when Clint smirks at the use of "theory" and visibly has to hold his words back 😂
@Hogstrictors
2 ай бұрын
I noticed that too, haha. The educational system and its governing body has really failed our people.
@JoeyP946
2 ай бұрын
@@Hogstrictors it's only getting worse it seems Hamas supporters, communists and anarchists seem to have increased in universities
@GlassShardBallPit
2 ай бұрын
It's true. Public schools should be so good that private schools are unnecessary. I'm worried our lack of urgency with education is starting to show it's head in adults.
@ladykoiwolfe
2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure that guy went to a public school. I feel like he probably went to a Catholic school or something like that.
@mwperk02
2 ай бұрын
@@GlassShardBallPitpublic schools in America are currently suffering from many issues. Religious infiltration just being one small but very important issue. Then there's the emphasis on simply regurgitating information over teaching actual thinking skills that allow one to learn, underfunding, underpaid staff, many very poorly thought out policies around things like bullying and more.
@middlemuse
2 ай бұрын
I wish I’d known Christians like you when I was young and struggling. My parents felt that evolution was such a dangerous idea that they denied me any substantial education after third grade. Young Earth Creationism very directly led to my educational neglect and abuse, and I’m still feeling the effects more than twenty years later.
@ClintsReptiles
2 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry that this happened to you.
@ladykoiwolfe
2 ай бұрын
I'm just glad that you're smart enough to realize this. You still have the ability to learn what they denied you.
@markwood1159
2 ай бұрын
I can relate. I went to a private Christian school from 3rd through 8th grades, where I was taught the conspiracy-theory that Earth is about 6000 years old and that evolution is a lie. It wasn't until college that I learned what evolution actually means and I was truly angry about the lies I was taught. I also began to realize, it isn't even the theory of evolution that creationists disagree with; it's the actual _definition_ of evolution. They accept nearly every part of the theory, until you label it "evolution," which they're convinced means "monkeys give birth to humans." No matter how many times it's explained, they refuse to accept that what they call "adaptation" _is_ evolution.
@JamesS805
2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry that happended to you. Young Earth Creationism has turned into a cult, and I’m glad you got out. May God bless you as you learn more.
@saragarska6335
2 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you weren't given more opportunities to learn. I remember learning that homeschooling isn't a thing in Germany because they believe that children have a right to education free from things like what you experienced (rightly or wrongly, I know the government determining what kids can learn is also a double edged sword, but I thought it was great that they take the approach that children have a right to education).
@trillakit9227
Ай бұрын
I just wanted to thank you for the video. I’m a Christian who also believes in science, but my explanations as to why I have this viewpoint often feel like the meteor guy in this video. I really appreciate how you took the viewpoints from the creationists and fully understood them while also fully explaining the scientific position. I learned so much!
@claytonharting9899
2 ай бұрын
1:20 the way Clint goes from politely listening to “woah man hold on now” when the guy says “why it’s still a theory” just kills me
@ClintsReptiles
2 ай бұрын
😅
@russellharrell2747
2 ай бұрын
That’s the point where Tuck-Tuck fully exposed his science illiteracy.
@Ugly_German_Truths
2 ай бұрын
@@russellharrell2747 or his adherence to a belief that is severely limited in its acceptance of reality... i don't even understand why, his family has sunk a beautiful TV Millionaires house's worth of money into his education, he COULD know much better than this. Okay, he may genuinely be too benighted to understand anything of it, but that's true for a horrible lot of things as shown in his programmes.
@tboggs13
2 ай бұрын
@@russellharrell2747No, I think that is just Tucker taking advantage of the ignorance of his followers. Just like YEC "scientists", there is no way they don't know the true definition of a scientific theory.
@russellharrell2747
2 ай бұрын
@@tboggs13 that’s right, I forget that the anti-intellectual sentiment in the US has been carefully cultivated for decades, and folks like Tucker love to play to that.
@LMoM0MoM
2 ай бұрын
I am retired from an organization that frequently had to go before courts to request legal decisions. In preparation we had to meet with our lawyers. In one instance, the lawyer persisted in undermining every argument we had. One of the younger members of our team was becoming increasingly, and visibly frustrated. At the end of the meeting, the lawyer told us to come back to her with better arguments. The young team member said, “She’s supposed to be on our side! Why is she cutting down all our arguments?!” I explained to him that her job was to take our arguments to the court. She wants the best possible arguments to present to the court. To get those, she had to think like the judge. It was her job to get us to really think through what we wanted from the court and why. She wanted us to defeat (disprove) every argument we developed, until we had the best possible arguments that would be very difficult for the judge to deny. And yes, it was sometimes frustrating. But in the end, we had excellent, persuasive arguments. All because we made ourselves understand the opposite positions, and address them before our lawyer had to take them to the court. Rather like your steel-man positions! Thank you for this!
@crow-dont-know
2 ай бұрын
Sadly, YEC organisations like Answers in Genesis only strengthen their arguments to the level that their largely science illiterate audience will judge, so regularly trot out the most flimsy straw men you can possibly find.
@theflyingdutchguy9870
2 ай бұрын
@@crow-dont-knowwhile the people working for aig know it. they actually have credentials. so its known that they are lying by people who know the science.
@unknown5150variable
2 ай бұрын
So you had a job that necessitated challenging constant rebuttals to your arguments and this was the first time your associate was up against such scrutiny? Was this their first case? I would think this would be par fir the course. If it wasn't it probably should have been, no?
@LMoM0MoM
2 ай бұрын
@@unknown5150variable Yes, he was fresh out of university with a masters in GIS. And yes it was the first time he was on our team. Turned out that he was a pretty bright kid, and once the logic was explained to him he rose to the occasion pretty quickly! He had excellent technical skills, beyond some of our well-seasoned techs, and they were no dumb bunnies! But he tended to be impatient with people who lacked his skills and understanding. I’m glad to say that as he matured, he became an invaluable member of our team.
@cognitivebreak8312
2 ай бұрын
Trying to prove yourself wrong, rather than trying to prove yourself right, is one of the fundamentals of science. Neat to see it coming up in other settings! The idea is, you design experiments to try to *disprove* your hypothesis. If it 'succeeds', then great, you know you were wrong! If the experiment 'fails', you've eliminated *one* of the ways in which you could have been wrong, but that doesn't mean you were right! Then you design a new experiment and null-hypothesis and keep going forever :p ... I Might be getting my terms/wires crossed, but I think that's the idea. There's a bunch of other rules for doing science that probably apply to law. In both cases, you're trying to prove things to people who cannot trust you.
27 күн бұрын
Anyone who rejects evolution simply does not understand it.
@kwvintorina
Ай бұрын
I didnt know that there were people who dont believe in evolution, I just thought everyone knew it was a thing and it wasnt a big deal
@baden4462
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately it’s typically only in those groups that are homeschooled by very religious parents who don’t themselves understand it so they just defer to God did it and then it snowballs into lid evolution is true then my entire world view is wrong” it’s admittedly a small percentage of the population but it can feel overwhelming if you’re aware of it
@conlon4332
2 ай бұрын
The "lizards stay lizards" thing sounds like another way of saying you can't evolve out of a clade, which is true.
@matyaskassay4346
2 ай бұрын
yeah, but the key difference is that lizards weren't always lizards.
@crow-dont-know
2 ай бұрын
@@matyaskassay4346 it’s not a difference, they’re stating the same thing: the law of monophyly
@livewire2759
2 ай бұрын
@@matyaskassay4346 Well, yes, lizards have always been lizards... they were never not lizards. Something else that wasn't a lizard existed before it mutated into lizards. After it became a lizard, everything else that mutated from that first lizard have been lizards. The controversy is over whether the first lizard magically appeared on earth one day, or it mutated from something else that existed already.
@Llortnerof
2 ай бұрын
@@livewire2759 What if the first lizard was a wizard that came from another world? Or a wizzard, but then he'd probably have fled already and lost a sandal.
@iwkaoy8758
2 ай бұрын
@@crow-dont-knowclade means descendents,So you Kent no longer descend from a other create. If a hue men gave birth two a octopus, thats knot a knew clade bee cause it came from a hue men. Creationist never said you change clades,that's a strawman. Creationist say, you Kent change families. You Ken breed wolves two Chihuahuas,but knot wolves two tasmanian tigers.
@balenfalotico2283
2 ай бұрын
As an ex-evangelical agnostic atheist and as someone who was at one point a YEC, it’s pretty damn refreshing to hear a Christian call out these cultish science and reality deniers. All the power to you brother!! Keep up the good work!!
@crow-dont-know
2 ай бұрын
Another great Christian creator that argues against Young Earth Creationism is Dr Joel Duff. On this topic, I also like Gutsick Gibbon, Dapper Dinosaur and Creation Myths, though they’re not Christian (though respectful of religious beliefs generally)
@balenfalotico2283
2 ай бұрын
@@crow-dont-know Erica and Dapper are amazing!! I love them!!
@normsti000
2 ай бұрын
Creationists seek to limit God to what men have written down.
@theWinterWalker
2 ай бұрын
How does Evangelical + Agnostic + Atheist work? Are they all not contradictory of each other? No hate, as an Agnostic Apostate I'm genuinely curious. Thanks for your time. Oh, ex evangelical👌🏻 nevermind.😅
@bigchungus6827
2 ай бұрын
@@theWinterWalker The definitions have become a bit muddied over the years, but you can be a gnostic or agnostic atheist. I'd argue both are subsets. Gnostic atheist is roughly "I don't believe in God, but I'm open to evidence opposing that", agnostic is "I don't believe in God, and I don't think meaningful evidence for his existence can exist", as I understand. How exactly evangelism ties into that, I'm unsure of.
@raeandringa7260
Ай бұрын
It's insane that Kent tried to put you in the Whack An Atheist segment. It's INCREDIBLY disrespectful to your personal beliefs.
@raeandringa7260
Ай бұрын
Please, fellow atheists... don't be a dick. And to Clint, we love you. Like any group, the most obnoxious are the most outspoken.
@daftwulli6145
Ай бұрын
@@raeandringa7260 erm he is tralking about the fundie kent hovind
@josiahclarke3535
5 күн бұрын
@@daftwulli6145the commenter and OP are the same
@angelajoosten9746
26 күн бұрын
Thanks from a fellow Christian who also believes in evolution and an old earth. I am so glad your channel exists. It is truly fascinating.
@rauc6788
2 ай бұрын
As a former militant atheist, now a far calmer agnostic atheist, I greatly appreciate your approach. This is how you create a dialog and teach not only evolution, not only science but any topic. This is a breath of fresh air and a wonderful masterclass of bridging the gap between sides.
@mathiasrryba
2 ай бұрын
You're evolving, the next step is becoming an igtheist.
@johngavin1175
2 ай бұрын
@@mathiasrrybaThat's where I'm heading personally to be honest
@spracketskooch
2 ай бұрын
"I don't know" is the only honest answer to the question of the existence of God. You'd have to check all of reality, essentially be God, in order to be sure either way.
@huizhechen3779
2 ай бұрын
You can't be both an agnostic & an atheist. You must choose one or the other. They're mutually exclusive.
@johngavin1175
2 ай бұрын
@@huizhechen3779 No,they are not. You can be a gnostic theist,an agnostic theist,gnostic Atheist, or agnostic Atheist. This was relayed to me by some of the Atheist KZitemrs I watch.
@zoltanposfai3451
Ай бұрын
"There is no proof for evolution. Nothing. Zero." "How many biology books have you opened in your life?" "Nothing. Zero."
@SUSH1BOY
24 күн бұрын
you're correct evolution has no proof (at all) but the earth can not be 7000 years old (this doesn't disprove the bible the running belief most cristians have is that god created the world over millions of year, clearly you dont believe everything in the bible if you disaprove one of the following the story of job, the body of christ you ruin your own argument)
@RePlayQ
15 күн бұрын
“Show me a single bit of proof” *points him towards the library*
@SUSH1BOY
14 күн бұрын
@@RePlayQ i think he means evolution of man cuase there is no fossils of any thing but man and monkeys
@RePlayQ
14 күн бұрын
@@SUSH1BOY ignorance truly is bliss isn’t it?
@SUSH1BOY
13 күн бұрын
@@RePlayQ i will hear u out i am already uniformitarinasm even tho im catholic the catholic schurch dosent deny the fact that the earth isnt 4000 years old or whatever
@morgoth5460
Ай бұрын
@ClintsReptiles I would like to suggest a minor correction to the description. For your purposes, you wouldn’t be interested in the mere validity of arguments. After all, validity is only about the structure of arguments (i.e., an argument is valid if and only if the truth of the premises guarantees the truth of the conclusion). There are plenty of rubbish arguments that are still valid, where had the premises been true the conclusion would have followed. You would rather be talking about evaluating the soundness of arguments. This involves: a) checking whether the argument is valid, and b) checking whether the premises are actually true.
@daftwulli6145
Ай бұрын
No validity also checks if the premises are true.
@morgoth5460
Ай бұрын
@@daftwulli6145 it does no such thing. Before trying to correct someone, at least make sure you know what you’re talking about.
@daftwulli6145
Ай бұрын
@@morgoth5460 LOL listen to your own advice bub, you are the one who tries to correct an expert on the subject. valid definition (american english):" well-grounded on principles or evidence; able to withstand criticism or objection, as an argument; sound " so yes it DOES check what the argument is based on
@morgoth5460
Ай бұрын
@@daftwulli6145 First, I'm not your bub. Second, it astonishes me how you can flaunt your stupidity with so much confidence. All you've done here is spout some dictionary definition at me - so what?? In the context of making and evaluating arguments, it is neither here nor there to insist on talking about how people generally use the term in everyday speech. Validity is a technical term with a very specific meaning, and as a result, the author of this video about evaluating creationist arguments would rather be talking about soundness then validity in their description. Now, instead of choosing to die on this rather idiotic hill, why not try picking up a formal logic textbook? It would be a much more beneficial use of time.
@daftwulli6145
29 күн бұрын
@@morgoth5460 quote :"First, I'm not your bub. " ok sport quote :" Second, it astonishes me how you can flaunt your stupidity with so much confidence. " LOL stop projecting kiddo, I demonstrated my point while all you do is fling insults and stomping you feet claimng nuh uh i am right you are wrong. Are you still confused why i called you bub ? Act like a toddler get treated like one Quote :"All you've done here is spout some dictionary definition at me - so what??" translatzion :" so what if the definition proves me worng, i will still stomp my feet and claim I am right with nothing to back it up" quote :"it is neither here nor there to insist on talking about how people generally use the term in everyday speech." man it is always as if that is the audience he wants to reach, not some some experts in formal logic and this is using the correect language to be understood by them. Which is why it matters a lot, no matter how much try to deny it. And why some definition you claim to have read in some formal book does not matter the slightest bit here even if the book really said that, which I highly doubt. quote :"Now, instead of choosing to die on this rather idiotic hill, why not try picking up a formal logic textbook? It would be a much more beneficial use of time." said the idiot after being debunked. Maybe waste less time with reading lofty books about logic that made you so arrogant to claim you know better then a literal subject matter expert with a PhD. It is pretty clear they did not help your education one bit and only made you an arrogant jerk who thinks he knows but really doesn´t. OK bub ??
@UhOhItsDorian
13 күн бұрын
Clint I commend the strength and patience you have and care you take because I almost certainly could not find myself arguing this specific case in this much detail without becoming incomprehensible or ending up in jail or both
@HeyItsLeonPowalski
2 ай бұрын
"Adaptation" in the way he's using it feels very vague, but I suspect this is just a rehash of the "micro vs macro evolution" stance, which Creationists have used in the past. (e.g: "Sure, Dogs can diversify into different breeds but a fish never crawled on land and turned into a human") edit: I see later this exact point is brought up near the end
@MaeljinRajah
2 ай бұрын
Exactly he's a dishonest piece of s*** because adaptation and evolution are the same thing. After all, isn't the definition of evolution adaptation through random mutation and natural selection over an extremely prolonged period of time😂 so it is not an opinion to go. I believe in adaptation and not evolution. It is actually impossible to believe in one without the other unless you are an extremely dishonest person.
@casualsleepingdragon8501
2 ай бұрын
Don't you mean elephants giving birþ to pine trees
@Potacintvervs
2 ай бұрын
@@casualsleepingdragon8501 I respect the thorn, even though I have no hope that it will catch on.
@Ugly_German_Truths
2 ай бұрын
it's clearly something Tuckums has taken from some other source and blindly adopted as his stance. No autonomous thougth was involved in that process. Seriously, if Joe "let's hear the crystal healing shaman's point of view" Rogan runs circles around your argument you MUST realize you did mess up badly...
@iwkaoy8758
2 ай бұрын
Wolves two Chihuahuas,foxes, coyotes, and Jack coals is (De-evolving) This is Janet tick regression. Janet tick regression is called Mike crow evolution inn neo darwinist terminologies. Theist except Mike crow evolution bee cause it's a other word four Janet tick regression. It does ant mean Wii bee leave inn (evolutionism) a universal common ancestory. A other example - aye except the mountain-chicken label bee cause it's a other word for frog. It does ant mean aye except a mountain-chickens as a bird bee cause it has a bird name. Just bee cause Mike crow evolution has the word evolution inn its name does ant mean aye except neo darwinism.
@funpheonix9752
2 ай бұрын
I’m an ex-Christian atheist and I don’t get atheists like the ones who completely abandoned you and your channel. I don’t like religion that much in general… but as long as the believers are like you, they’re awesome! I’m glad there’s a Christian evolutionary biologist out there debunking creationists.
@cautemoc4624
2 ай бұрын
I mean, his video views haven't really gone down so the people who supposedly abandoned his channel either didn't actually do it or are such a small number they are statistically insignificant
@Thatchxl
2 ай бұрын
Yeah. As an atheist, I really don’t have a problem with non-fundamentalist Christians. Honestly, I think it’s important to have these kinds of spokespeople too. There’s bound to be some fundamentalists that won’t even pay any mind to what an atheist says, but will listen to a Christian scientist. I believe there’s far less harm in evolution/science accepting Christians than fundamentalists.
@drewharrison6433
2 ай бұрын
As of right now, my two favorite Christians are John Green and Clint Laidlaw
@syrupybrandy2788
2 ай бұрын
But atheism doesn't make a lot of money. If you became a televangelist you can easily scam millions out of your gullible faithful.
@spracketskooch
2 ай бұрын
You say that now. I wonder if you'll say the same if the difference in belief leads you to come into conflict on another topic?
@b80011
Ай бұрын
25:22 this statement right here is enough to earn so much respect. I wish my creation studies professor in college had the same standard. I’m don’t know enough yet to have fully figured out where I stand but I’ve really enjoyed all I’m learning from watching your videos.
@stilicho539
28 күн бұрын
Man, you're patient and helpful in a polarized debate when others wouldn't be and I see that as a true virtue. I can't say I'm fully like this myself, but it's one of the things I do strive for. We'd live in a better world if everyone had this strength.
@Ermington321
2 ай бұрын
I still can’t believe we haven’t got over the it’s just a theory thing, when we know the a scientific theory and the definition of theory isn’t the same
@gabri41200
2 ай бұрын
In the very same sentence he says "theory of adaptation is clearly true", you can't expect much coherence of that of people.
@davehaynes9409
2 ай бұрын
The interesting thing I find about YEC and theories is they dont seem to have a problem with electromagnetic theory, quantum theory,information theory,special relativity or germ theory, just seems to be evolution. Its almost like they intentionally misrepresent things to fool people
@RichWoods23
2 ай бұрын
Some people readily forget what they were taught at school, after a few decades of not needing to use it. I struggle to recall any concept or process in chemistry more complex than what I was taught when I was 12 or 13, even though I studied it to 18. Maths and physics, however, have been of regular use to me during my career so I've forgotten far less of them and read up on far more since.
@zombiekurt
2 ай бұрын
You see the same phenomenon in psychology, where scientific terminology and symptoms are completely misunderstood and disregarded by laymen, because the word happens to have a different colloquial definition (take disorganised thinking as a schizophrenia symptom vs what a layman means when they say disorganised, as it's one I can personally attest to - in schizophrenia, it's a debilitating symptom that can even turn your thoughts entirely into word-salad and gibberish, it's definitely not "I'm a bit forgetful and messy"; it can vary in severity, even in one person over time, up to and including rendering you unable to coherently express your feelings and ideas). Even as somebody who has that symptom, it's difficult to describe, and I don't fault laymen for not comprehending the experience - that said, it's the self-assured denial of one's own ignorance that I think encapsulates the phenomenon, the "I know what the word theory/disorganised/etc means, so you're just [insert assertions of ulterior motives or stupidity on your part here]", which makes it so difficult to help people get past the fact that a word just has two meanings, or to help them use it as it applies and is intended by those they're trying to talk with. You also see it with people who argue "I can't be homophobic, I'm not scared of gay people", because they don't know that the suffix -phobic means fear, hate, or various kinds of aversion depending on the context and/or field of study (a good example being hydrophobic molecules, which clearly aren't afraid of water, due to being molecules that don't have brains), and/or they're unwillingly to have a conversation based on that definition for whatever reason. I find it especially frustrating because, as mentioned, it directly inhibits my attempts to express my mental health symptoms to people, and that's doubly annoying when the very symptom they're refusing to properly discuss beyond a colloquial definition inhibits my ability to express myself; but it's still frustrating even when it's something as simple and, ultimately, irrelevant to my life as a random news anchor refusing to acknowledge that the word "theory" does not mean "relatively unsubstantiated or unsupported" when it's being used in this context. I don't want to assume bad faith of people, or accuse them of only saying it because they don't want to acknowledge, respect, address, or otherwise accept what you're actually saying, but I have to admit that I often find myself having a hard time believing that this many people are this closed off to the sentence "words can mean more than one thing, especially in different contexts or fields of study" - perhaps people really genuinely just have mental blocks around the idea, but when somebody's career relies on undermining the credibility of scientific theories, or when their refusal to make allowances for you relies on undermining the severity of your symptoms (eg teachers not wanting to send me copies for me to do the lesson when I was well, since I couldn't understand at all on the day), I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel like maybe there's a little more to the situation than just not understanding that rock can be a type of music or a stone, and that you'd sound like a fool if you went "I know what rock is, and that boulder doesn't even have a guitar". Ultimately, that is what they're essentially saying, and I'm so tired of it being such a prevalent argument technique.
@zombiekurt
2 ай бұрын
Oh gosh, that reply got a tad long, I'm sorry.
@Number1drizzilefan
2 ай бұрын
As an atheist, it's great seeing someone who holds scientific and religious views without compromising either. Keep at it Clint
@diarmuidkuhle8181
2 ай бұрын
Evolution is only really a problem for the scripture literalists. If you can accept that the text is largely allegorical, then evolution isn't in conflict with a personal belief in a deity.
@Hunterr8
2 ай бұрын
So like most all Christians.
@philw6056
2 ай бұрын
@@Hunterr8 Yep. Like most christians. But about half of the christians in the us don't believe in evolution. And christian schools, christian homeschooling materials and christian apologists are part of the loud anti-evolution and anti-science minority.
@AstronomyAdmirer
2 ай бұрын
@@Hunterr8it really depends on where you live I live in the south and mostly everyone is a YEC
@jackwhitbread4583
2 ай бұрын
As an atheist it's hypocritical to hold both views as they opposed each other vehemently. This guy is clearly a clown if he's a believer
@UNFORGIVABLExGAMING
Ай бұрын
"Just a theory" implies the highest level of acceptance possible. For something to be classified legitimately as a theory is a huge achievement. Bonus points as it doesn't rely on faith.
@recordzofthewasteland8741
Ай бұрын
I’m an atheist and you posting videos like this give me mad respect for you. I learned a lot as I usually do from your videos and I love your approach of steel manning then refuting. We need more theists creating content like this.
@Pingwn
2 ай бұрын
I see the misinterpretation that "a theory is a hypothesis that has been substantiated" many times before, I suspect it is a response to the notion theories are unsubstituted while in reality they are the highest level explanation that you can have. Thank you for addressing this.
@paulglennie1991
2 ай бұрын
Yh People tend to miss understand that a scientific theory is very different from the everyday use of theory. They also fail to understand that many things in our everyday life are based on theory, so if they deny one theory they would have to deny them all including music, cooking and driving.
@lamaglama6231
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately explaining the difference almost never helps. You hear these arguments over and over again from the same people. One could assume they don't understand but I think they just don't care and want to spread misinformation because it helps their cause.
@paulglennie1991
2 ай бұрын
@@lamaglama6231 that's very true, the amount of times I hade science deniers say oh that's just someone's opinion even though I use proper sources that explains what a scientific theory is and how it difers from the layman's definition. The only time it helps is when people actually have a general interest in learning about science
@TheSpiritombsableye
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately this isn't always as well described in schools. The explanation given here does provide greater clarity as what constitutes a theory. This probably isn't helped by the idea that science is ever changing as information about the world around us becomes anew. I still remember learning that panda( bear)s were more closely related to raccoons. After being looked at weirdly for such a statement, I asked them for a moment while I researched the most recent understanding of its taxonomy. I like being right but I like being wrong more.
@Ofallthings089
2 ай бұрын
I will say that in social sciences like psychology a theory is more like the definition of a hypothesis used in biological science.
@BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
2 ай бұрын
As an atheist saying Clint doesn't have any credibility because he believes in god is stupid. You were perfectly content with what he was saying before, and he's just educating people on evolution. Good teachers don't bring their personal beliefs into what they're teaching. And no matter which way you slice it, Clint is an amazing teacher! PS.: It kinda reminded me of a teacher of godsdienst in secondary school. Great teacher, he thought us about a lot of different religions, beliefs and life philosophies. Once we were having a conversation about the decline of Christianity in my country, when I expressed I thought that was a good thing he looked a bit disappointed. Then I remembered that this was a Christian school I was on (not that you'd notice, it was only really Christian by name), and the I'm pretty sure that teacher was Christian. He was so good at teaching about religions, I totally forgot he was part of one himself (makes sense for perhaps the best school I've been on. And I've been on a lot). So it is totally possibly for people to teach without getting their personal beliefs involved. I'm certain that Clint can do that too, if not better.
@AshironDerigarStudios
2 ай бұрын
your talking about tankies the same kind of people that despite not believing in God want a government that is somehow omnipotent and all commanding. I know what these people are they just arent worth it
@Adventist1997
2 ай бұрын
As a creationist myself, I couldn't have said it better. ❤
@ishathakor
2 ай бұрын
there's a brand of atheist out there that assume anyone even remotely religious or who believes in anything they consider irrational is an idiot who should be disregarded and i think they're doing far more harm to the discourse than they realize. especially with something like religion like there are millions of religious scientists who don't make unsubstantiated claims and do good research and so on and also believe in a god or gods.
@monodescarado
2 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with the notion that Clint is a great teacher. I especially like the way in which he breaks down arguements in this video by re-iterating them first, picking out main ideas and then fact-checking them. It's a neat and respectful style of argumentation. However.... There must be a level of cognitive dissonance at play here. I would love for Clint to one day explain how he can square certain contradictions that exist between his knowledge and his faith (and there are a bunch).
@thesnatcher3616
2 ай бұрын
@monodescarado Two reasons. One is that following Christian doctrine does not neccesitate the denial of science(look up the Nicene Creed, none of it says "thou shalt deny science" or "thou shalt believe every word of the bible is literally and factually true, even the obvious metaphors and literary devices".), And two, is that a variety of church fathers and churches in the past have constantly pushed and supported scientific discoveries(not to mention hardly anyone back in even the middle ages took the creation story literally, the viewpoint of YEC came about quite recently). Not to mention, the Catholic church greeted the theory with open arms, and Anglican churches published pamphlets explaining the theory to the masses. Darwin himself stated that he didn't think Evolution ruled out the existence of God. Christians do go through a lot of cognitive dissonance(as with all people with any type of worldview), but the compatibility of science and religion is definately not a primary one(you would be better off going to some historical accounts or the reliabiltiy of the gospels, or whether or not the biblical authors were polytheistic or something). I can't believe people are still holding to the whole "conflict thesis" view that's not taken seriously by any historian or scholar of religion ever.
@TheRedneckAtheist
Ай бұрын
>Beats chest >Raises fist "Eukaryote and proud"
@atheistapostate7019
16 күн бұрын
“It’s just a theory” drives me nuts… yes IT’S a theory, NOT a hypothesis! A theory explains something that has been established as facts, and NO longer a hypothesis. A lack of education in scientific terms causes a lot of issues for people to understand.
@markuse.828
Ай бұрын
As an atheist, I don't fully understand the reasons why you have embraced theism, but I don't need to. I'm actually glad you did. You can now help bridge social divides and act as a translator. Keep up the good work! You are the most reasonable believer I've seen online in a long time. I recognize that both "the algorithm" and debate culture often highlight extreme or opposing views to keep us engaged. So, I genuinely hope you are not the rare exception that the internet makes you seem to be.
@Mortarius
2 ай бұрын
As someone raised Catholic, science has always been a point of contention for me when it comes to religion. Young Earth Creationism and other Christian Sciences have always seemed so disingenuous to me that they actually pushed me away from faith the more I was taught of it. However, when I did my own research on the subject, I eventually found that the official Catholic stance is that science does not and should not run counter to our beliefs. Apparently the church itself acknowledges that the different books in the Bible are written by many different authors in different genres. So we consider Genesis as allegory, and a lot of the science denial that has seeped into many members of the Catholic church actually comes from overarching pervasive American Puritanism. Finding this out allowed me to stay a Catholic, because personally, being able to believe in God should not require me to turn off my brain.
@napoleonfeanor
2 ай бұрын
Yes, the RCC has long accepted scientific truth as it has always seen some parts as allegorical. The Church is actively funding research as well. The science denial mostly comes from literalist denominations. Darwin himself wasn't an atheist but unitarian. There were also atheist and deists who embraced (but didn't understand) evolution early on to attack the Church. Generally, God is the ultimate cause and He created the physical world with its properties. I hold the view that we cannot ever prove of disprove God scientifically. Science shows us more and more about this physical realm.
@Neogeddon
2 ай бұрын
My churches growing up were always very very staunchly puritan and YEC. I remember we had a guest speaker come in once who tried making the argument that constantly arguing over evolution and the age of the earth is distracting from the actual message of the text, and that "the Bible is God's word" does not mean we should blindly ignore the context of when it was written. He was not popular and did not come back a second time haha
@Mortarius
2 ай бұрын
@@Neogeddon I'd probably be an atheist if I grew up in a church like that.
@anniesama5729
2 ай бұрын
It's rough! My family is Catholic, but my mom likes listening to the Christian radio which are almost all evangelical, and they often have those answers in Genesis on. Unless you specifically seek out Catholic stuff, you usually find Protestant answers. And let's face it, Catholics are behind at making things fun.
@boxsterman77
Ай бұрын
Yes. The usual source for religious guidance and dogma in Protestantism is solo scriptura, or Only Scripture. By that, it means that protestants hold that there is no need to look elsewhere than the Bible to know how you are to live a life in accordance with God's design. This became a thing because, for nearly 1000 years, the Church restricted even the possession of a bible. Why did they do that? Well for one, they studied the Bible and they appreciated that it was chock full of inconsistencies, contradictions, codes and practices, arcane or archaic languages. And as any modern, earnest Biblical Scholar can attest, the Bible is not an easy lift. that were inconsistent with the direction toward which the Church wanted its flock to go, etc. So they presented snippets of it at readings during the Mass. All that ended when Martin Luther translated the Bible to German, and this became the source of the Geneva Bible (the one the Pilgrims brought to America) and one of the sources of the King James Bible. Suddenly the cat was out of the bag.
@josephsalaba8290
2 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the hammering home the "I am a Christian" point. I was one of those atheists that had a knee jerk reaction to feel distrustful in the last video, and I remember feeling really weird that I had that reaction because up and to that point I had completely loved your content. It was a really important learning moment for me that you described perfectly in this followup.
@SoIstDassAlso
2 ай бұрын
He didn't say that he was Christian. He said he believed in god. Which god?
@necroseus
2 ай бұрын
@@SoIstDassAlso True, however it's a pretty fair assumptions that it is an Abrahamic deity. All are monotheistic and quite common.
@monodescarado
2 ай бұрын
I also bulked slightly, and felt a little embarrassed after. That being said, I think it's a natural reaction. There is an amount of cognitive dissonance taking place when pairing the teachings of the Bible and the reality of evolution. It's hard to follow rational arguments from someone that has inherent irrationality, regardless of how nice they are, and how well they know and represent their field. While I certainly won't stop watching Clint's content, I would love to know more about how he can square the teachings of the 'good book' and an 'all-loving creator', with the 600-700 million years of brutal suffering via extinctions (99% of all creatures that have lived are extinct) that's taken place prior to God's supposed chosen ones arriving on this Earth. Not to mention the fact that the Bible fails to mention any of it, despite man only being alive for around 0.0066% of Earth's history.
@necroseus
2 ай бұрын
@@monodescarado Believing in God =/= Believing Bible Literalism. He could just as well be one who interprets all the books as allegories for teaching important lessons/ morals. We just have no idea! Clerification would be nice, sure, but I think it's perfectly normal for him to have such a disposition.
@monodescarado
2 ай бұрын
@@necroseus This is fine. I get that a person may not be a Bible literalist. However, believing in a faith, especially something like Christianity comes with particular baggage: ie concepts of morality; the notion of God wanting what’s best for us; the belief that God wants a relationship with us, etc. These concepts are still challenged by hundreds of millions of years of creatures coming into existence, suffering and going extinct before apes started standing upright.
@Coffeeology
13 сағат бұрын
Clint. I’ve been watching you for years. I found you through Snake Discovery, “if he’s friends with Emily that’s all I need.” I’m also an atheist. I’m sorry some of the edgelords have decided to write you off as “just a Christian.” I loved your take as a scientist as a thinker. The fact you’re a Christian that accepts that the universe is billions of years old gives me so much hope. You can have faith and also be a scientist. Thank you sir
@jeremiahsmith7973
Ай бұрын
Probably some of the best explanations about evolution, science culture, fair argument, and human nature that I’ve heard in a minute. Keep it up, lord knows there are a lot of misconceptions out there that are not going away easily.
@westernevils
2 ай бұрын
"Everything he says is wrong, because I don't believe in that one thing he believes in" is probably the dumbest argument ever.
@silentcaay
2 ай бұрын
Despite being one of the most misused/misunderstood fallacies, it's an actual ad hominem fallacy. If used in an atheist community, it would also be a poisoning the well fallacy.
@cepoe8358
2 ай бұрын
gotta say, clint absolutely destroyed them with the emerald tree skink argument
@user-ld9tf4td8s
2 ай бұрын
@silentcaay it could also be a Genetic Fallacy. "He's an (insert whatever here) so that claim has to be false"
@coffeebean7512
2 ай бұрын
as an atheist i agree
@mandowarrior123
2 ай бұрын
Sounds like modern politics. Ironically enough, being intollerant of other people's views is bigotry. But if someone disagrees with you they must be a Nazi, or a conspiracist or groomer, or something else. Life is easier when you don't have to argue. Better yet, ban them like a reddit mod!
@tay-lore
2 ай бұрын
I have so much respect for the composure Clint maintains when presenting his arguments. He's such a fantastic scientific communicator and educator!
@taylortheturtle
Ай бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking, he's so good at this!
@cosmicwarfare4377
Ай бұрын
This was a very good video. I recently watched this video along with the other YEC response video and I enjoyed them both. I think you should continue to make these when you want. You could possibly help others that hold similar positions. I consider myself a theistic evolutionist of sorts, maybe you could talk about what sorts of challenges you are met with due to your belief in God and evolution, or maybe you could speak about relationships between your belief and perhaps your view of nature or even the relationships between humans and nature within the framework of your belief in God. Very well made video. Since a love of reptiles is essentially something I have had since my very early youth, this channel has always been loved by me lol keep up the good work! :)
@lordsnuffles9352
Ай бұрын
I was raised fundie, and now I’m an atheist, but it’s so nice to look at this, at people like you, and know that, no, fundies aren’t the majority, Christians are normal people, good people, educated (and educating) people. Thank you.
@pixiestyx
2 ай бұрын
Very much appreciate the way you repeat the arguments for clarity before providing rebuttals. I wish that all people responding to arguments (on either side) would take the time to make sure they understand exactly what is being argued and ensure that they address each argument. Hope you do more of these videos!
@crappyanimations9992
2 ай бұрын
Right off the bat, I just love how well you can represent someone's beliefs without straw manning them at all!
@Fade2GrayOG
2 ай бұрын
When the facts are on your side, you can steelman your opponents.
@theflyingdutchguy9870
2 ай бұрын
@@Fade2GrayOGwell. even if the facts are unknowingly not on your side. honest people wil still at least try to steel man the oppositions arguments.
@Adventist1997
2 ай бұрын
@@theflyingdutchguy9870 You'd think so, but even when you do, they hate you for the fact that you disagree with them.
@zacharyhenderson2902
2 сағат бұрын
I used to be a young earth creationist. It was something that I could defend as well as anyone, it was a part of my identity; it wasn't until I was mowing grass one day, that I finally realized that evolution was real and that it didn't conflict with my belief in God. I say that because it's only when you give people correct information, not in a way that tries to attack them, that people can really process and think about it, and come to accept the truth, and do so happily, without feeling like they lost something by believing it.
@Grace3442
Ай бұрын
I am a former Evangelical Christian, I no more hold the position that a diety exists, but I found the contents of this channel to be relevant. Almost 100% of my relatives and acquaintances are believers. My problem is when one's belief gets in the way of objective truth, which is not evident in this video.
@batuayde2074
11 күн бұрын
Evolution isn’t an objective truth. It’s a subjective truth. If you claim you exist, then the existence of a god would be an objective truth. Thank you.
@josiahclarke3535
5 күн бұрын
@@batuayde2074Why does claiming personal existence require the existence of a god?
@batuayde2074
4 күн бұрын
@@josiahclarke3535 because your existence isn’t contingent in of itself, nor was it necessary, and it could have been any other way. This means you couldn’t have caused your own self to exist, requiring something outside of your own existence to explain you. Example. A.I didn’t cause itself to exist. Its existence is hardware, electricity and programming and none of these by themselves can create A.I. Something outside of A.I existence created/caused it, which is humans. Without humans none of the hardware, electricity and programming would have been directed to cause the fate of A.I. So what caused/created yours?
@josiahclarke3535
4 күн бұрын
@@batuayde2074 I can claim I exist through a series of moments in history that caused my birth. It doesn’t need to default to a god, specifically.
@batuayde2074
3 күн бұрын
@@josiahclarke3535 did you see my comment, seems to be removed.
@Netheferious
2 ай бұрын
The realization that those parasitic tumors found on dogs are technically a unique species of dog is causing me to have a mild existential crisis not gonna lie.
@sharonseaman5672
2 ай бұрын
Not technically a species. Like grafting tree cuttings, it's the same original dog. Or, if it has speciated, so does cancer. Your mutated cells are your descendants living in the ecosystem of your own body, adapting and evolving to survive and reproduce in the harsh environment of your own immune system and medical interventions, until, like modern humans, it destroys its own habitat. Both are true. Same dog, many dogs.
@joshf2685
2 ай бұрын
Yes this is like the immortal human cancer cell lines being a new species. It would be astonishing if one of those cells lines adapted to the point that it persisted in the wild. That would certainly be a rather odd ape living as a unicellular asexually reproducing organism.
@justinfriedman2039
2 ай бұрын
Do you have a link to anything about this? It makes sense, but I wanna read about it.
@BryanLu0
2 ай бұрын
@@justinfriedman2039Search for "Canine transmissible venereal tumor"
@schrodingerscat3741
2 ай бұрын
@@justinfriedman2039 youtube doesn't allow links (and I don't have one off hand anyway), but you should be able to find it pretty easily by searching for the sexually transmitted dog cancer.
@show-me-orion
2 ай бұрын
Hi Clint! I’m so grateful for you and for these videos. I’m a Christian biology education researcher working on teaching undergraduates how to communicate about science! You are such an excellent model of how to approach this type of communication with empathy and good faith. I also appreciate so much that you are willing to state your faith in these videos, because it’s critical in helping other Christians understand that they don’t have to choose between the identities of Christian and Scientist. I use your videos as a starting point for students who talk to me about their struggles with evolution acceptance! Your dissertation was actually super influential for me and I’m glad you’re also doing this work on this very public platform!
@rogerking7258
Ай бұрын
Whenever someone asks where intermediate stages in evolution between differing species are to be found, just point to any living organism and say, "There's one".
@theArdenHart
Ай бұрын
I can’t afford the summer camp session but I still hope to talk to you one day about your religion. I’m a producer, editor, and occasional host for The Line here on KZitem, but i wouldn’t want to do it for content personally. But thanks again for another excellent video honestly addressing and debunking creationist misunderstandings of science. You are doing the *Lord’s* work as it were 😂
@Siberius-
2 ай бұрын
A common thing here seems to be that creationists see evolution as this enemy that counters their worldview, and so when they explain evolution, it's often in a way that inaccurately counters/"attacks" creationism in some way, like they will often talk about how life began, but, how life began, is not even relevant to evolution. It's like that meme where Thanos says “I don’t even know who you are”.
@Imman1s
Ай бұрын
Well, as an atheist myself, I always found the certainty in which some theist folks decide what their god can or cannot do based on what they can pull from their own backsides quite amusing. There is a fine line there somewhere that goes straight into slander territory, and I faintly recall that was the only unforgivable sin, so some mad respect for sticking to the con at the potential cost of their immortal soul.
@Siberius-
Ай бұрын
@@Imman1s - What people say of their god(s), seem to ALWAYS conveniently line-up with what their moral inclinations already were, before coming across things in the bible. They don't have to adjust anything, because you can always cherry pick the bible to suit yourself. Part of the issue there is that you HAVE to cherry pick the bible, because there's directly contradicting stuff in it at various points, including in Genesis right at the start. But then it's probably a good thing, since you want the leeway for them to be more chill in their behaviour. I think it was like Greek mythology, etc. where you have the gods, but there would be many different versions of stories. It's just that, way in the future you only get maybe one surviving version and then people think all those details must be the one story everyone actually believed happened, despite there being surely no way to know such tiny details. MAYBE. I dunno. Yea I don't know what internal mental game these people who use religion for their own gain are playing entirely. Some of them surely believe in a god.
@djkb125
Ай бұрын
I’m a Christian but also believe in science. I don’t understand why so many believers treat science as an attack on their beliefs like you said. Why not both? I don’t believe God is a magician. The way I see it, the Bible covers 6,000 years of spiritual history on this earth but the earth is certainly much much older than that. Even the Bible alludes to the fact that there were many other people on earth at the time of Adam and Eve. When Cain kills Abel, who was he afraid of? He went to the land of Nod and took a wife…. Was it his mom?!? Treating the Bible is a literal history and science book is foolishness. Evolution happened, we share a common ancestor with other primates and dinosaurs didn’t live alongside people. Oh and dinosaur bones weren’t planted by satan to trick us. 🤦🏻♀️
@Siberius-
Ай бұрын
@@djkb125 - Yea I do much prefer the idea of a religious person doing both, I gotta say. I think sometimes they also do this because they subscribe to the concept of creationism, and evolution really takes that almost entirely away, undeniably, right back until you get to the question of abiogenesis... So if evolution can't (doesn't) explain how life began, then they feel they can therefore throw out evolution as a whole, but yea evolution doesn't care about how life began. I remember from my younger days, that was a popular tactic. "You can't explain this one thing? that means my worldview is correct". Dinosaurs being planted by satan to trick us, sounds very... 80s. The unfortunate thing with having to try and justify certain beliefs, is how quickly it makes people veer straight into mega conspiracy. Like trying to explain dinosaur bones and dating and geology and biology and mass collusion across all these fields and governments, etc. Better to just see it as, learning more about how the god in question went about their stuff. NITPICK: "I believe in science" is phrasing I try to avoid, since people can take it to mean belief in the sense of like, faith, like with spirituality. At least I cared about that a lot when in online religion debates 10+ years ago lol.
@djkb125
Ай бұрын
@@Siberius- you’re totally right that evolution doesn’t try to explain how life began though the primordial soup still doesn’t mean God isn’t real to me but like the video stated, science doesn’t even try to be so absolute. It’s about testing and observations and study. Science doesn’t have all the answers but I wish more Christian’s didn’t take that as some win that gives them license to throw it all out. That leads to so many other conspiracy theories like you mentioned. I mean, how on earth would a microchip be in the Covid vaccine?!?! Have you seen the gauge needle used to microchip pets? We would have known! lol. And the dinosaur bones thing may sound 80s but I’ve legit met other’s in my adult life that believe such things though I was born in the 80s haha. I’ll take note of the “I believe in science” statement. I can see how that would denote faith. More accurate is to say, I acknowledge the value of science and trust the scientific consensus. It’s more of a “I haven’t done the research or testing but I believe them when they say this” but in a discussion involving religious believers that word might not be received correctly .
@Bottle-OBill
2 ай бұрын
"Extinction's the only way out." -Clint, 2024
@muffty1337
2 ай бұрын
...but will we see it comming?
@breyerobsessionist16
2 ай бұрын
Can I get this on a T-shirt??
@pantalonesdemuerto7960
2 ай бұрын
@@breyerobsessionist16 Seconded.
@theplot1816
Ай бұрын
I love this channel. As an atheist who was once a Mormon deist (which I believe Clint is though I may be wrong) I find it beautiful that their are religious people who are able to talk about evolutionary biology without making it an argument or being defensive. Evolution isn’t inherently an argument against religion although it can be used as such in a lot of instances, so it’s cool to see someone religious who doesn’t see it as something to argue against.
@chrismiller9152
Ай бұрын
This is the best video I’ve heard on this topic. I always get embarrassed when uneducated, fellow Christians talk on things they are not qualified to talk about, such as evolution. I believe in Christ, and I believe evolution is a potential explanation for God’s creation. Just because it doesn’t teach evolution in the Bible doesn’t mean it isn’t feasible or against God’s creation.
@Maurus200
2 ай бұрын
Fun fact, evolution on its own doesn't disprove a god. Debunking evolution also doesn't prove a god in any way. As an atheist I fully respect believers that are able to separate dogma from data. Most of the biggest discoveries in science were made by thiests with that skill and should be taken seriously.
@dinodudeface6551
20 күн бұрын
Not necessarily a god but it does disprove certain religious beliefs
@duck7441
13 күн бұрын
As a believer i appreciate atheists who do not disrespect believers
@AronRa
2 ай бұрын
I still want to do a collab with you! Both as a science communicator teaching evolution and as a herp guy with 75 snakes in my house.
@hylaherping9180
2 ай бұрын
Love to see it!
@XraynPR
2 ай бұрын
That would be a neat thing!
@DrachenGothik666
2 ай бұрын
I would definitely watch that as I love both your stuff & adore reptiles!
@crow-dont-know
2 ай бұрын
I would enjoy this collaboration
@celticnoble5650
2 ай бұрын
Whoa, that would definitely be rad!
@daniellee9951
Ай бұрын
That was brilliant. The best video on evolution I have seen. Persuasive and so informative. I've always been an evolutionist. And despite this, engaging with content on it has often made me feel convinced of its truth but not fully comprehending the of some of the mechanics of it. This has truly educated me. Thanks.
@catied2944
Ай бұрын
Hi Clint! Love this series and the rigor you bring to discussing misconceptions among evolution while respecting the held positions of creationists. You gave a steel man of creationism. In college, I got something of a "steel man" of evolution from one of my professors. I found it really helpful to have it laid out clearly. Evolution only occurs when: 1. There is variation among traits among individuals in a population that results in 2. Variable reproductive success amongst these traits 3. And produces fertile progeny that 4. Also possess these traits This clarifies that evolution is a change among traits within a population, not an individual. This definition is really strong in that it is broad but specific about the circumstances in which evolution occurs, and it avoids discussing genetics, which can be confusing when added to the discussion when teaching the concept.
@jacoblebaron9127
2 ай бұрын
As a Christian, and somebody who also believes in evolution, I often find myself caught in the middle arguing with both sides. This video is such a helpful resource to better articulate my position to others. I share your passion of showing that it’s reasonable to believe in God and science! Also, you’re the reason I got a False Water Cobra a couple years back! Keep doing your thing Clint I’m routing for you!
@scytaleghola5969
2 ай бұрын
When discussing the "gaps" in the fossil record, you should remind people that the fossils that we have found represent only 0.00000000000000000000000001% of everything that has ever lived. OK, I made that number up, but the point is valid. A guy challenged me about ten years ago regarding the fossil record and I asked, "if we traced your family history back through your father, grandfather, great grandfather, great-great grandfather and 95 more generations and consider all of their progeny, how many fossils do you think we would find?" He said, "Lots." I said, "So you think that people in your family have had their bones buried in sediment, volcanic ash, encapsulated in amber, or some other mechanism that protected their remains or an imprint of their remains?" He said "No, but their bones are still around." I explained, "Bones are not fossils and bones decay. Therefore, it is very unlikely that anyone in your family over 99 generations (about 2500 years) will leave a fossil record.... even the relatively few in cement burial vaults." Fossils are very, very, very, very rare in the grand scheme of the planetary record.
@llSuperSnivyll
Ай бұрын
And besides, let's say you have fossils A and B, with a gap between them. Then, you find a fossil C that is between A and B. Great, you closed that gap! Now you have two more, between A and C, and between C and B. We'll never know the full picture. And that's the fun part.
@dreyhawk
28 күн бұрын
That is a fantastic answer!!
@sonpopco-op9682
12 күн бұрын
Actually when you understand genetics, you know that if you go that far back, every person is a pretty even blend of everyone who's genes have survived. At 35 generations you already have more ancestors than base pairs exist in your genes. So any surviving fossil from more than 2500 years could be his direct ancestor . . yours too.
@scytaleghola5969
12 күн бұрын
@@sonpopco-op9682 My point is that there have been an estimated 4.5x10^27 animals ever on Earth and we have found and cataloged only about 1.3x10^12 fossils. There are a huge number of huge gaps in the fossil record. I can say with greater than 99.99999% confidence that none of my ancestors from the past 2500 years are a part of the fossil record. My confidence diminishes as we look back farther in time.
@MrDanAng1
10 күн бұрын
For the last 100 human generations, how many fossils could we possibly find? Technically, the number will be zero, since a fossil finds per definition is over 10.000 year old. But I understand that this is about what could be found in 10.000 years plus change from now. It's roughly one chance in a billion that any random organism will become a fossil. That would be about 8 human future fossils from this generation. 8x100 generations equals 800, but that would give a massively blown up number, since the current human population size is historically EXTREMELY big, for the last 2.500 years, the average population is most likely much closer to half a billion or even less than 8 billions, so that would leave about one fossil every second generation, or 50 total from the last 100 generations. BUT, that's also an unreasonable large number, since it's much more likely for fossils to form from water living organisms than land living organisms, so the number would more likely be closer to 10 total. But then again, many humans actively bury their dead in the ground, so we humans probably scew those odds a fair bit, so about 50 is probably not an unfair number of possible future fossils from the last 100 generations
@AlexFairchild
Ай бұрын
Clint, you lovely Deist you! That breakdown of hypothesis/theory/law is the most educational thing I have experienced in the last 30 years! Bravo. I thought I knew what they were, but I was wrong. Scope. Description vs. Explanation. Fantastic!
@ndexohill
7 күн бұрын
What a fantastic channel. I really appreciate you taking such an earnest and intellectually diligent approach to your arguments. It's such a breath pf fresh air.
@GamePlague
2 ай бұрын
I've never seen a baby turn directly into an adult, they must have separate origins.
@colinsixhitter3303
2 ай бұрын
A baby grows into an adult. It can not evolve after fertilisation. Any differences it has are already baked in so the only effect they can have on evolution is to live long enough to reproduce to pass on its genes and any advantages/disadvantages they have.
@sharkestry1119
2 ай бұрын
it's true. Whenever you bring your baby to a babysitter/daycare/school they switch the baby with a slightly larger baby until you have a fully grown human walking around in your house.
@freddan6fly
2 ай бұрын
I never heard Latin turn into Italian, the languages must be created by god /s.
@eiontactics9056
2 ай бұрын
If that is an argument, I think you might need to evolve back to a baby and re-do education.
@Adventist1997
2 ай бұрын
We can literally see the changes happen over time, so yes you have seen babies turn into adults. You've also witnessed yourself aging. Therefore your point of reference is illogical and ignorant of the actual debate. We haven't seen fossils show the changes that are assumed to happen. We only see the usual small changes. In any experiment they've done such as looking at the several generations of flies, they showed roughly no change. They concluded that flies can't evolve any further. We do know that things evolve, but the question for the debate is how much things can evolve. In any fossil we examine, we see changes from current life forms. However, we don't have concrete evidence that the fossilized bones are 100℅ as we presume them to be. Evolutionists are learning more about fossils every day and often have to make new theories or change the species of many animals because of new findings. An example of this in living things is the Panda Bear. The Panda Bear is a true Bear, unlike the Red Panda. Originally people assumed the Panda Bear was related to a Raccoon because of their bone structure being similar to the Red Panda. The Red Panda is NOT a Bear, or Ursidae at all. The Red Panda is an Ailuridae. We discovered the Panda Bears true relation to Bears in 1985 by studies in molecular biology. And that's where the true problem arises in making concrete blanket statements on evolution based purely on fossils. We literally do NOT have enough information to outright claim things we don't have evidence of. The bone structure can only tell us so much, And if we only had fossils of Red Pandas and Panda Bears, we would likely still assume Panda Bears are related to Raccoons.
@lavatrout
Ай бұрын
I remember my views on religion being forever shifted after my 5th grade science teacher, whom i respected deeply, told us that there were ways to learn about and believe in evolution that can not only coexist with your religious views, but also add more understanding to them. This was really significant to me because I was raised atheist in a rural town smack dab in the middle of the bible belt, and I was basically taught that all Christians (and those who believe in related theories) would have a fundamental misunderstanding of science, especially where evolution is concerned. In short, my parents would continually nail in that Christians were ignorant of the way the world actually functioned, and I believed that for a long time until my science teacher told us that he was Christian AND that he believed in science and was happy to teach evolution to us. It was a very eye opening experience that I still think back on decades later. For context, the theory of evolution was so polarizing in my school district (public school mind you), that parents had to sign wavers allowing their children to be taught Darwinism and the theory of evolution. The day that we were sat down to learn about it, what few members of my class had parents that actually signed this waver were saying that their parents told them to just get a good grade and ignore the subject matter. It was then that my teacher told us about his faith and how he felt about things, and while it didn't quell every student's doubts, it did make most of us more open. Me to the idea of having Christian peers and my classmates to the idea of having evolutionist peers. I don't think many atheists have experiences like that, and it tends to make us very polarized when it comes to personal beliefs. I now make every effort to examine my personal biases whenever I come across religious or cultural differences. Side note - literally cannot believe people are shocked that someone from Utah who frequently wears a button up shirt and tie is not atheist. That's wild to me. That's just.. that behavior does not adhere to atheistical culture lol. I think I would have been more surprised to find that Clint was atheist. Anyway, keep making good videos, Clint (and crew)! Love the content
@llSuperSnivyll
Ай бұрын
Besides, there has been a large amount of deeply religious scientists. It would be so absurdly trivial to treat scientific research as "giving the details your sacred books didn't" instead of "trying to debunk your beliefs". Which is probably what the likes of Newton or Lemaître thought.
@carmandirda
Ай бұрын
There was a point where Christians generally rejected science that countered their understanding of evolution, but thankfully, that is changing. Now it's a toss-up if you talk to someone Christian about evolution whether they will be totally on board or upset by it. And that is a good thing! Religion will likely never go away, but it's okay for people to hold beliefs that also evolve to fit our current scientific understanding. It's happened several times across history, and it will continue to do so. People believed the sun revolved around the earth, psychiatric issues were signs of possession, and more! For the vast vast majority of people, that is no longer the case, because time helped people accept the new information gained.
@Red-in-Green
Ай бұрын
@@llSuperSnivyll100%. I’ve seen a lot of descriptions of what they were doing as “expanding the understanding of God’s creation”. When I was Christian as a kid, that’s how I thought of it. My church and my mom very much encouraged the idea that the Bible is a mix of truth and metaphor, one which one must be wise to sort through, which is why priests do that full time. Biblical literalism wasn’t something I encountered until I was older and it was WEIRD to me. The thing I’d been told was literal and inerrant about the Bible was the rules and advice, not the history (or the weird rules. I wasn’t told about the weird rules). 10 seconds of thought in which you hold both Adam and Eve and the Hapsburgs in your mind will tell you that that one is a metaphor about how we should treat everyone as family (again, teaching from when I was 10). Also, there was a lot of focus on how the four books of the New Testament all told the same stories different ways, keeping in or leaving out details or even contradicting each other, but that was because they were telling stories to teach lessons, not history, in remembrance of a man who did the same. Science and the Bible are not enemies unless one picks a fight on purpose. Biblical literalism is religion picking a fight. Edgy atheists do the same.
@Call-me-Al
Ай бұрын
I live in a mostly atheistic culture, so I never had this polarized view of religious people until my teens. All the religious people I knew weren't unhinged fundamentalists, they were normal people who took science as a natural and important part of life and society, but just also believed in something more. Then I got older and I learned there were in-between states of the most fundamentalist fundamentalists and the "normal" chill Christians. That was quite unpleasant. Freedom of religion is supposed to include freedom from religion, not just in an atheistic way but also that people need to respect the other religious folk. As in any religion variant that opposes the existance of other religion subvariants, variants, and atheists, inherently are incompatible with modern society. People with personal beliefs who gain strength from it and are cooperative with the other cooperative people works great! Stuff like the separation of church and state is important to allow for personal religious differences and the lack of religion.
@The_Worst_Guy_Ever
Ай бұрын
Wearing a button up shirt and tie doesn't adhere to atheist culture? What?
@4ndytrout46
24 күн бұрын
Its so easy to tell that creationists have no clue what they are talking about when you hear them use dinosaur and lizard interchangeably as if they are the same thing.
@Axxe80
24 күн бұрын
Or when they say "it's just a theory" (because they don't know what that word means), ask "why are there still apes" or - and that one is rare, but still the dumbest thing I've ever read - "how can evolution have been going on for millions of years when we're just in the year 2024"... It would be comical if it wasn't that sad and disappointing.
@kochiedough
5 күн бұрын
I've bopped around watching YEC debunking videos, and I find your approach of calm teaching refreshing. Very kind. Very Christian. I'd have liked you as a teacher when i was a young church kid
@DefilerWyrm
2 ай бұрын
Honestly though. He’s a married man with kids who lives in Utah. The likelihood that Clint was an atheist was already super slim. Well. This atheist has lost no respect for you. My parents are Christians and they both fully accept the theory of evolution. You make a fantastic point about the need to accurately describe an opponent’s viewpoint in order to reach them with good faith arguments.
@ab0mb86
2 ай бұрын
"If a theory is still a theory after 200 years, it must be pretty good." 👏👏👏
@comradeyuri1
Ай бұрын
"I really didn't make them for you" with that smirk, it is pure gold😂😅
@isaacg8473
Ай бұрын
hey clint! have you ever considered a collab with forrest valkai? I know the YEC vs evolution debate isn’t your typical content, but you are the two content creators that inspired me to start my course toward a degree in evolutionary biology this year, and I think you both add a lot of value in this conversation!!
@isaacg8473
Ай бұрын
side note, I think you two would have a lot of super educational and fascinating topics to talk about outside of this particular discussion, and I would love to see you guys interact in the future!
@VaughanMcCue
Ай бұрын
I suggest our friend, the Valkyrie, needs a moderator or an auto-mute to control the microphone. The dear fellow only inhales twice, at the beginning and end of the shows.
@Orgs_Rock
2 ай бұрын
As an aethiest, this is one of my favorite channels on youtube, and im sorry you get harassed by the people that give atheism a bad name. Knowledge is knowledge, regaurdless of your teachers belifes, and im glad you teach, spending your time, energy and passion making other people, including me, passionate about biology, evoloution, etc. Thank you.
@DrachenGothik666
2 ай бұрын
*Atheist. *Regardless. *Beliefs. *Evolution. Proper spelling is a good thing.
@AshironDerigarStudios
2 ай бұрын
honestly the people that are attacking clint probably include tankies, the kind of people that want to worship an all powerful dictatorship in place of any kind of God
@mrbrandon6
2 ай бұрын
I’m glad you made this video. It is so refreshing to hear a Christian debunking creationist arguments.
@tipping_scales
Ай бұрын
I'm so late to this but I love so much that you tackled this in the way you did. Like soooo much Clint. So well done man
@breetopkuschi9657
27 күн бұрын
This is just… like the perfect video. You are so clear and hit these awesome points so well. Just awesome! I’m an atheist, for transparency here lol I like to think of the ‘disagreement’ there the way it was explained by Hank and John Green. We both hear a voice that gives us insight into ourselves, morals, appreciation of beauty, etc., we just happen to disagree on where the voice comes from. It’s not really that big of a difference! Absolutely love all your content btw. My special interest is insects, specifically butterflies. I raise monarch butterflies over the summers here in southern Ontario, and currently have about 600 on the go. They’re just fascinating and amazing creatures. It makes me happy seeing your content because your passion and excitement for all the world’s creatures is contagious. Butterflies are great, but I also like sharing that love to other animal categories from time to time 😁
@johngavin1175
2 ай бұрын
To my fellow Atheists that disowned Clint: grow up. Good friggin grief!
@AshironDerigarStudios
2 ай бұрын
the same people who do that probably have a soviet flag on their wall
@thesnatcher3616
2 ай бұрын
@@AshironDerigarStudios Atheist republic, prob has one of those "in this house we believe in science..." banners, multiple copies of books by Bart Ehrman, God is Not Good by Hitchens, God Delusion by Richard Dawkins, and something by Richard Carrier probably. Oh and don't forget the spiderman comics.
@sunlizard9593
2 ай бұрын
These people are either “baby” atheist or atheist that never grew out of that phase
@Aethuviel
2 ай бұрын
Those were all either 14 or at the mental stage of an average 14-year old.
@mikeashe7270
2 ай бұрын
As an aithiest you are by far one of my favorite avenues of learning on the internet. I highly respect you and what you do and while I may not agree with everything you may belive or not I can respect and admire that you present facts and knowledge in a fun and effective manner
@silvioi9061
Ай бұрын
As an atheist, I gotta say nobody ever illustrated the basic concepts of evolutionary biology as you do. You are so unbiased 💪🏻
@LGpi314
Ай бұрын
Have you watched Forrest Valkai or Prof Dave explains?
@mjp121
Ай бұрын
The question regarding the rarity of spontaneous life is a GREAT one I’ve never considered. Like we haven’t seen evidence of it happening in lab settings despite trying, but we have *no idea* how many proto-bacteria lived and died without reproducing, or whether it may still happen, but in an environment far less favorable to protobacteria.
@Jo1day
2 ай бұрын
Not all dogs have bones! Thank you for the definitions of the scientific terms
@areallyshortbrontothere
2 ай бұрын
I'd like my dog bone-in please
@mscottjohnson3424
2 ай бұрын
Some dogs don't have bones. Not until their owner, or a butcher, gives them one.
@evan6338
2 ай бұрын
It's a no-bones day.
@Bald_Wizard_Man
2 ай бұрын
I think I know what Clint is going to talk about with that. It is fascinating.
@Thefrogbread
2 ай бұрын
Only when I give them bone to nom nom
@DahVoozel
2 ай бұрын
No, Tucker, you do not see adaptation litter to litter. You see genetic variation. I am assuming you aren't letting some of your dogs die because thier coats are too short or thier paws are a little too small.
@psxtuneservice
2 ай бұрын
I think he means thing like you breed two big dogs than you see already in the next litter that they are bigger than when you breed a small small and a big one....wouldnt call that adaptation but most probably what he meant
@areallyshortbrontothere
2 ай бұрын
*tucker putting the puppies in the cold for the greater good of selection pressures*
@casualsleepingdragon8501
2 ай бұрын
If he did, i'd be shocked, but not surprised
@ettinakitten5047
2 ай бұрын
I mean, neutering is as effective as killing at removing an animal from the gene pool.
@AmyEugene
2 ай бұрын
What's her name, Kristi Noem? I hope he's not getting her advice on breeding for temperament. 😥
@jamiecote7313
Ай бұрын
I love this channel, seriously. And i can relate to you in that i learn much more from opposition than relating to other folks.
@josephgreens
Ай бұрын
I wish I could hit the like button more than one time. This was phenomenal, thanks Clint!
@LoLotov
2 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for you to do a video like this! Unapologetically having your faith while understanding and sharing basic scientific concepts at the same time is something I deeply respect about you and your content.
@AshironDerigarStudios
2 ай бұрын
the people with that symbol unironically are seething lol
@SomeonenamedKate
2 ай бұрын
I used to be a Christian, and now am in the atheist camp, precisely because people like you did not exist in my church. People who had nuanced views and were willing to sympathize with the “out” group. Thank you for showing me that people like you can still believe in God and still treat others with respect. I really want to see the video about the dog-tumors. Thanks!
@walkingwolf8072
2 ай бұрын
So are you a meat eater? Do you go to PETA meetings? Or the reverse a vegan that goes to a steak house to complain about people eating meat. A Christian church is just that, they have their faith, so it appears you wish to disrupt the church with your belief system?
@wadewilson6628
Ай бұрын
So you just didn't find a new church? you just gave up your faith? seems like you really didn't pay attention.
@SomeonenamedKate
Ай бұрын
@@wadewilson6628 no. I had by that time tried several churches. I just saw more evil than good. My last straw was when I was on mission and my fellow missionaries were mocking people dying of starvation and stole water and food from them because he deserved it more. It was like the tenth church I tried, and after a while, you have to figure that there’s something in common, but I respect people who have different experiences than I had. I am just one person, and although I couldn’t join a church and believe in a god who supports that, I respect those who do, and respect people who can be kind in the face of criticism.
@JohnyX8881
Ай бұрын
I know that's not the subject of this channel but I would be very interested in video about your conversion from atheist to theist. Also, awesome video.
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