I anticipate FSU giving the ACC notice of departure for next season by the Aug 15th this year. The SEC has never wanted FSU for membership, they keep playing ‘carrot and stick’ games with FSU always getting hit with the stick. FSU faithful are more than aware of this so have no delusions about joining that conference. As you said “at the end of the day, FSU goes to the Big 10”. FSU prefers the academics and athletics of the Big 10, we are pursuing AAU membership and the reputation of that Conference.
@wolverinesfan9021
3 ай бұрын
Big brand, rich history, devoted fans who tune in and travel, great venue, top notch facilities. The SEC is dumb for not considering FSU.
@mattcaruthers7832
3 ай бұрын
Bridge is burnt with acc and rightfully so , not a chance of us staying . Go noles!
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
Hence I currently have ~50/50 chance of landing in B1G or BIG12
@GodTreGuttaiAMgOd
3 ай бұрын
@@tarheel7406your remedial
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
@@GodTreGuttaiAMgOd You will have to do better.
@LoCoVANole
3 ай бұрын
Other than ND, FSU is the most valuable program yet to be realigned. It reliably provides top 10 viewership numbers and is an iconic national brand that sells out stadiums everywhere. Other than ND (and perhaps Clemson) no other non-P2 brand can say that. All things considered, the B1G is more prestigious than the provincial SEC and is a better landing spot for the program given where the sport is going. No matter what ends up happening, it’s truly a great time to be a Nole!
@LockedOnBIG10
3 ай бұрын
Go Noles!
@MichaelSmith-xb5cp
3 ай бұрын
More valuable than Texas?
@LoCoVANole
3 ай бұрын
@@MichaelSmith-xb5cp Last time I checked Texas is slated to join the SEC so they’re not a non-P2 team. For obvious reasons, Noles aren’t more “valuable” than Texas but over the past half century have won three times as many natty’s and have been the more successful program overall. Oh, and Winston had less time remaining and more yards to go on the same field as Young…just saying.
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
Yet FSU is no higher than the 3rd or 4th expansion priority for the SEC and B1G (respectively).
@GodTreGuttaiAMgOd
3 ай бұрын
@@tarheel7406u have no real accurate knowledge on the statement u made. Stop hating on and trolling the Florida State contingent. Put all that energy into worrying about your own team.
@garyscott4847
3 ай бұрын
I think FSU and Clemson will announce by August 15th they are leaving to force ESPN's hand to announce before February 15th that they are taking the opt out provision in the media deal to end the agreement in 2027. This will greatly reduce the value of the GOR deal thru 2036 and FSU and Clemson can get out at a greatly reduced rate.
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
a) To where would either be going? b) Why would ESPN not renew even if CLEMSON and FSU left?
@garyscott4847
3 ай бұрын
@tarheel7406 one they formally announce they are leaving they can negotiate with other conferences who would no longer have to be concerned about being sued by the ACC. Big 10 would likely take them at a significantly reduced share until the lawsuit is settled on an exit fee and GOR payout. ESPN would not renew as the media right value absent FSU and Clemson will be significantly reduced. Courts are unlikely to rule the ACC keeps their media rights after they have paid the conference to leave.
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
@@garyscott4847 "one they formally announce they are leaving they can negotiate with other conferences who would no longer have to be concerned about being sued by the ACC. " Why? Until GOR is legally resolved, who invites any ACC school without their rights to broadcast home games? "Big 10 would likely take them at a significantly reduced share until the lawsuit is settled on an exit fee and GOR payout." a) Doubtful. b) B1G is very unlikely to invite CLEMSON. " ESPN would not renew as the media right value absent FSU and Clemson will be significantly reduced." Nonsense. An ACC even without UNC, CLEMSON & FSU remains worth more than the current contract rate per team. The new BIG12 evidences that. "Courts are unlikely to rule the ACC keeps their media rights after they have paid the conference to leave." Why?
@mark8337
3 ай бұрын
Yes, all the serious talk about further Big Ten expansion names FSU, Miami, Clemson, Notre Dame, bringing the Big Ten to 22. I personally think 24 is the max, so you could have 2 more teams, maybe from out West - like Utah, or Stanford, or Kansas, to help the West Coast teams on travel a bit more. It’s possible they could take a team or two more from the east, but I don’t see UNC or Virginia as I think they would go to the SEC.
@LoCoVANole
3 ай бұрын
Spot on - the SEC will react and grab whatever they can as an afterthought. Triangle schools make sense since they’ll come cheap whereas FSU and ND command top dollar.
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
@@LoCoVANole LOL... UVA and UNC are high priorities of both the SEC and B1G, so both can demand full shares. FSU. MIAMI and CLEMSON likely only have 1 P2 , which means likely partial shares if that only option is the B1G.
@mark8337
3 ай бұрын
@@tarheel7406 People are sick of your homie elitist views.
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
@@mark8337 Perhaps, I can assure you that I'm weary of having to constantly address delusion and arrogance. An example of which is your last comment.
@mark8337
3 ай бұрын
@@tarheel7406 No, it’s you.
@philcasesa8626
3 ай бұрын
We are Florida State. We are not taking a reduced share. Mark my words. Go Noles
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
The BIG12 will offer a full share. Perhaps even an unequal share.
@jackbritt3496
3 ай бұрын
Among BiG, Big12 and SEC, athletics represents an almost negligible amount of each university's budget. It is typically around 2 to 4% of the overall budget, so while sports is the colleges recognitioin factor, it is negligible in terms of the colllege's income.
@thomasmoss1066
2 ай бұрын
When SEC goes to 9 games the SEC teams will have the same or bigger payout then the B1G
@LockedOnBIG10
2 ай бұрын
Will they go to 9?
@thomasmoss1066
2 ай бұрын
@@LockedOnBIG10 If the SEC adds more quality teams then yes. ESPN may have to call Blackrock who made them do DEI initiatives at Disney, ABC and ESPN tanking the business. The SEC will also see if the Committee awards playoff off merit (SOS). Even at 90+ Million a team ESPN is getting a bargain. Overall I believe the B1G and SEC through secondaries has this all basically worked out, but I also believe NC & FSU is at the very least are bargaining chips. The B1G are paying different prices per team where I don’t think the SEC would do that.
@thomasmoss1066
2 ай бұрын
@@LockedOnBIG10 I do enjoy your programming, insights and callers.
@thomasmoss1066
2 ай бұрын
I also believe ESPN didn’t want to pay for 9 games previously. I believe they are hoping this stops the inflation. If they paid 2 years ago to go to 9 games they would need to pay again if the SEC added very markable teams. By going to 9 and adding teams at the same time. ESPN may think that business strategy may be cheaper as SEC only hold the cards once and not twice whe negotiating price.
@joeedge576
3 ай бұрын
B1G university presidents are NOT in favor of adding FSU . . . .
@ronwilde1595
3 ай бұрын
You're right people on here don't understand that the presidents aren't going to vote FSU in because they are not AAU. Working towards membership is not the same as already being a member. The Big 10 will get into Florida thru Miami they are AAU and fit very nicely.
@joeedge576
3 ай бұрын
@@ronwilde1595 Problem with Miami is that they have NO on-campus stadium which makes it VERY difficult for students to get involved...
@behappy6215
2 ай бұрын
@joeedge576 ucla doesn't have a campus stadium like miami, but fox sports president Mark silverman won't let his alma matter ucla without a home.
@joeedge576
2 ай бұрын
@@behappy6215 True... and I do believe that Miami is in the equation... but do they have media mogul who's pushing their movement ? ?
@garyscott4847
3 ай бұрын
When you vote to sue FSU don't be surprised when FSU is critical of you.
@davidfloyd9134
3 ай бұрын
Big10 needs to get into Florida & Texas. In Texas A&M & Tech, and fsu & Miami
@shallojalloh
3 ай бұрын
No tx tech... at all. Tech had no brand value outside us north central tx and Lubbock us in thr middle of nowhere. go get fsu gtech and a&m
@glennwilliams2950
3 ай бұрын
@@shallojalloh HAHHAHAHHAHHAA GT. very funny... Wait you're serious? A&M arent leaving the SEC. It''ll be FSU and ND. If 22 It's those 2 plus Miami and UNC. if 24 it's those 4 plus UVA and Clemson
@shallojalloh
3 ай бұрын
@glennwilliams2950 | reading is fundamental. I clearly stated if I were the B10. GTech is strategic my guy. ATL is in the heart of SEC country. Being able to plant a B10 flag there is priceless. If the B10 was able to get A&M FSU n Gtech. They would have a school in 9 of the 11 most populated states. Please explain to me how that is bad idea.
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
@@glennwilliams2950 a) The B1G takes UNC over FSU. b) UNC isn't available to the B1G per more recent events. Apparently has rejected he B1G yet again.
@ronwilde1595
3 ай бұрын
They will get into Texas and Florida but will only take one school from each state. In this case it will probably be A&M and Miami. They are both AAU and make the most sense
@Dawn-l3p
2 ай бұрын
Go big ten hope to see Clemson, Florida st , north Carolina, Miami to join next.
@Lawrence-k4d
3 ай бұрын
Is the NCAA going to eliminate all academic requirements for it's semi-pro athletes? I mean student athletes. This game is slowly going to die when the students and alumni realize their school is at the mercy of networks and mega conferences. Playoffs will be fun till the NFL realizes they are competition and tries to merge both "products". Greed killed football.
@cgiii2440
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for being honest, so many of these YT feeds and podcasts are being disingenuous FSU and Clem are amongst the top tier programs in the sport and should be making the money to represent their place not play this game pretending we deserve the pittance the ACC TV is paying
@adamb6370
3 ай бұрын
What if…..gasp!!! The BIG and the SEC are fully coordinating and cooperating on everything. They know who will pursue which school and will not compete at that level. And will jointly negotiate TV deals, rules and schedules going forward. It’s happening. FSU, Clemson, Stanford, Miami, Utah, even ND. It’s probably been agreed through this advisory committee. They aren’t in competition. They are in cooperation.
@davidfloyd9134
3 ай бұрын
Acc is dead
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
If so, as is the new BIG12.
@scottscottsdale7868
3 ай бұрын
I generally agree with you. And I don’t think there is any way FSU can get out by Aug 17. Summer vacays coming up. Unless it is done already and just waiting to announce. But that would leak. I think FSU and ND are invisible for the Big 10 but it will take time. Time for the new playoff system to shake out. I cannot see Clemson but who knows. Eventually there will be two big conferences doing their own thing each with 20-24 schools. Playoff expanded beyond 12 teams. Make it 24 and just add another game. Or something like that.
@egask2
3 ай бұрын
Today is the deadline for any ACC teams to withdraw before the new schools get added and potentially cause the folding of the acc
@jamesmciver9637
3 ай бұрын
That is incorrect. With the addition of SMu on July1st and the Cal and Stanford it increases the number of schools that have to vote in favor of disbanding the conference. August 15th is the last day that a school can announce they are leaving for the next year.
@davidfloyd9134
3 ай бұрын
Big12 is better off than the Acc
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
The BIG12 is clearly the worst (by far) P4 in athletics, academics, value and prestige.
@LockedOnBIG10
3 ай бұрын
Not for long. Losing Texas and Oklahoma is worse than people admit.
@ScottyDuke-kc7uc
3 ай бұрын
It’s a latteral move
@joshuapatrick5167
3 ай бұрын
FSU is not “woefully underpaid”. The ACC woefully underpays all it’s teams. There is equal revenue sharing in the Big10 and SEC.
@timlamb1156
3 ай бұрын
But the michigan osu psu is the reason they all make as much, those three bring way more viewers. I wonder if big10 will ever kick out northwestern or Indiana to increase revenue of remaining teams.
@johnw3922
3 ай бұрын
I dont think the Big Ten is Florida State's best option. It makes sense for football and basketball, but it would absolutely 💀 their baseball program, which is at the edge of being a baseball bluee blood with 25 CWS appearance (although somehow zero wins)
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
Yet likely FSU's best available option.
@LockedOnBIG10
3 ай бұрын
If it makes sense for football then that is all that matters.
@johnw3922
3 ай бұрын
@LockedOnBIG10 the SEC also makes sense for football, and basketball.
@tarheel7406
2 ай бұрын
@@johnw3922 Curious... For how long and by how many professionals must it be reported that the SEC considers CLEMSON and FSU relatively disposable for people to believe?
@johnw3922
2 ай бұрын
@tarheel7406 you're literally the first person I have ever heard refer to Florida State and Clemsom as "disposable." So I seriously doubt you're listening to any credible sources and probably just feel into some weird psychotic corner of the internet.
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
That FSU has publicly criticized the other members is one of the reasons it has fallen in attractiveness.
@FSUGeoff
3 ай бұрын
keep dreaming, tobacco road is about to get what it deserves
@tarheel7406
3 ай бұрын
@@FSUGeoff Full share SEC invites? One could argue that FSU did deserve the CFP snub.
@RichSDet
3 ай бұрын
Stop kidding ! FSU will never be in the B1 G because they do not qualify.
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