So soon,this will go down the throats of property owners,like the agricultural taxes that is giving people goose bumps,
@brianbwire461
7 ай бұрын
This has been more informative than what I have read or heard elsewhere. Kenyans take your time to listen to PS Hinga here who has covered most of the hot button issues surrounding the housing discourse. Personally I have learnt a lot fro this discussion.
@jmmtm
7 ай бұрын
Who'll be paying bills of water, electricity etc , who'll be catering maintenance, what if emergency issue arise ad someone stay for 2 months without paying, what about someone get fired from job, what about someone demise, don't praise him cz you're in the same WhatsApp group.
@benardomari5863
7 ай бұрын
mumelipwa+
@LoveMamlie
7 ай бұрын
Where does the money go?
@brianyobra533
6 ай бұрын
@@jmmtm are u against the tax or building of the homes coz those issues you've raised would arise even if the govt paid entirely without taxing anyone, other countries have done it and are reaping big rewards, surely change is inevitable and we shouldn't live in fear of the unknown. Remember also that only 300,000 kenyans are on govt payroll which means that more than 50mil kenyans would benefit from the sacrifices of the 'lucky' few in offices. Bad pr has made even non-salaried kenyans to be against these social housing programs which are meant to better their living conditions...
@joshuamuturi480
7 ай бұрын
Kudos You guys gave this PS the right proverb. He has talked too much but what I have now is more questions than answers. Theres alot of darkness all around and in my ears. Confusion is in the air.
@titusgitonga2231
7 ай бұрын
People pay money to build houses. Government build them in public land, and then Government sells them. They should just be donated. Where is tgd Government taking thd sales money eventually?
@davidkirenga4703
7 ай бұрын
Give the devil his due. I have listened to you Bw. Hinga. If you implement what you have articulated here to the letter, then it will be a game-changer. I wish you all the best.
@LoveMamlie
7 ай бұрын
What do you mean? He has not said who takes the money? What do we benefit after they take our money? Nonsense.
@jnthenge
6 ай бұрын
Finally, Hinga is in his element. Very sober, very clear and owning his work. Last time he was pushing an agenda he did not support or understand. I would still like more information on how that fund will be managed. Its a lot of money, corruption can run riot. The theft pathway likely through contractor kick backs. 10% kickback on all projects equates to 0.5 billion per month. Scandals here can be unprecedented.
@petermanyonge8911
7 ай бұрын
I really don't know if our leaders think at all, cause you want someone to pay 3200 per month for 30 years to own a house that's stupid, it means I will live in the same house with my sons and daughters, qhy can't the government just build the house's then allow who want to buy or rent they do at there own.
@owangh86
7 ай бұрын
We don't have leaders but characters that care about their stomach...
@breeamani886
7 ай бұрын
my thought also...build them at the government expense then rent them out at a cheaper rate...they will fill in in record time
@TheTororist
7 ай бұрын
but you can rent if you want. he literally adressed this in the interview@@breeamani886
@olefben
7 ай бұрын
Why do you keep bringing this Hinga guy back? He doesn't even manage to explain the job we pay him for.
@christinemunywe3408
7 ай бұрын
Hata mimi nashindwa. The only new thing about him is that he has added weight.
@jeffmwaura8409
7 ай бұрын
hawajabakisha mbali waende tuchague watu kama kina SIFUNA
@CharlesMaina-w2o
7 ай бұрын
Very unfair to classify 21000, to 149000
@Ken_W254
7 ай бұрын
What happened in these scenerios here; 1. An employee being deducted the so called housing levy and eventually goes into retirement before the project is complete. Meaning deductions stops. How will he own a house? 2. A terminated employee who was being deducted the housing tax before the project is complete. How will he/she own a house. 3. You talked about categories in owning houses as per earnings. What happened in an event of salary reduction while one have been paying the tax higher due to his salary then his/her salary us reduced. Which type of house will they own?
@mungaikihanya4340
7 ай бұрын
What does Hinga mean when he says "gross income of a consultant"? Is it the sales revenue or the profit after expenses? This is going to be very hard to implement.
@daviddavis7959
7 ай бұрын
This is a game changer however you twist it. Kenyans are always skeptical of new ideas, novel ideas. In America the quickest way to wealth is owning a home. As hinga says as you pay for that house it builds equity and you can use that equity to get a loan and start a business, you can even sale the home for the payments you put in it.
@wilsontuli8201
6 ай бұрын
Is it slum upgrading?If it is not,then what will happen to the slums after everybody has moved out? Am i contributing for my own house or am i contributing for somebody in the slums to have a "better" house? Now that am already paying my mortgage house,why am contributing for another house? What happens when i have the house then i loose my job for whatever reason? And many many more questions
@patrickmutuku498
7 ай бұрын
Bwana PS has spoken and now my big question and concern is this that the Kenya Kwanza Government must run for 30 yrs
@anthonymaina2215
7 ай бұрын
Kk is on its way out!
@mutisyakithuka9664
7 ай бұрын
Why would a govt be so passionate to build houses ? This whole thing is about making money by government operatives.Slums are about income levels...They are there in the USA 😮
@stevenjagi3764
7 ай бұрын
To eradicate slums there have to be a genius approach than this. People in those slums make a living in those slums and wouldn't want to move to the new units. Some have small shops by the roadside, some sell veggies, githeri & muturas. It's a much more complex undertaking.
@kingralphie1280
7 ай бұрын
Just make it optional the government doesn't have to force people to own houses, he gave example of America, in the US the government doesn't force one to own a house.
@FaithOgeto-fl9gr
7 ай бұрын
This conversation drives me crazy! If the government said that they wanted to build social housing that would be owned by the government and would be rented to those that cannot afford decent housing, unemployed, single mothers etc that makes sense. I am contributing to social housing with has public benefit. And should i find myself jobless, fallen on hard times etc then i have access to this social housing. If i never fall on hard times then i have contributed to a national good. My good deed as a citizen. No problem. But this incomprehensible Act penalises me the salaried worker, who barely earns enough to support myself and then denies me the very house I have been taxed for. My guess if those three bedroom house with an en suite will go to senior government officials and their cronies (Just try and buy a house form NHC and come back here and share your experience). As a senior employee earning 100k after tax will never step foot in that house but will have paid for it. That house will infact be sold to me by that government official at 100-200% profit.
@kimaniwakimani535
7 ай бұрын
why not allow every county to handle their own housing programme customized to their situations
@gilbertrotich2598
7 ай бұрын
Talk also about spacing. A family in a slum can pay for 2 rooms. But your set up is just a single room.
@WesongaMac
6 ай бұрын
Question: Since we are expecting rent, interest earning and loan repayment, are we expecting this to become self-sustaining and therefore the tax to end?
@kahugumuiruri9057
7 ай бұрын
53:57 PS the question is about the transfer of lands to private people not the school being public
@em551
7 ай бұрын
its not the land that is being transferred
@moseswaweru1261
7 ай бұрын
so,who is "public "?,should I be worried that one day I may find myself without a road to ride my bicycle?
@kahugumuiruri9057
7 ай бұрын
@@moseswaweru1261thats what Ruto wants
@duncanouma7354
7 ай бұрын
Nauseating to watch such a fellow who can not articulate issues in his docket, lies will never fly..
@WWEST464
7 ай бұрын
On point!! These lies are couched. too much hot air and english
@WWEST464
7 ай бұрын
What these honchos say and what they do is quite different.they are pretty suave,they say what people want to hear in impeccable business English.they never tire
@W-W-W-616
7 ай бұрын
The more I watch the news the more depressed I get and start question the meaning of democracy😅
@georgejuma9221
7 ай бұрын
😢😢😢😢
@MuithuiKinyua
5 ай бұрын
Land is finite but population is forever growing
@Caren-f4e
7 ай бұрын
I really need water as a road contractor messed our water pipes. Where can I get assistance.
@jmmtm
7 ай бұрын
Does water, electricity ad garbage bills included?? cz if I add buying of vegetables ranging to 15k..btr I stay at rental houses I pay 8k .
@KennedyWahome
7 ай бұрын
Using his example of 3,000 per month for a home. The cheapest in the market (studio) is about 1.5million. Meaning he has to pay for 500 months all factors kept constant....
@bickenbackbeinbool771
7 ай бұрын
This shit doesn't make sense. This is a Conn.
@Derrowssi
7 ай бұрын
He doesn't have to complete it in his lifetime, his /her children can inherit the house and continue the payments. Be honest in your criticism.
@bickenbackbeinbool771
7 ай бұрын
@vito9072 The moment you bring the kids to your mortgage plan, you've lost the plot my friend.
@Izzy_B241
7 ай бұрын
3000 is social housing buda
@AltonRugetho
7 ай бұрын
The one question I'm not sure was answered, Or I missed it. But if i had already built my own home and currently occupying, how does the levy benefit me? Was reiterated it is no longer a contribution
@W-W-W-616
7 ай бұрын
8:31 my guy started capping @8:32. If those resources were that readily available at 3k then we wouldn't be having this generational problem🤣 wacha tuone the rest
@cantoncornel6948
7 ай бұрын
If something is good ,you shouldn't sweat explaining it or do a lot of convincing or rather force it on people...there is more than meets the eye on this issue,you forcefully deduct someone to build him house ,then after the house is ready you tell him to apply so that you decide whether he qualifies for the house you build using the money you deducted from him and then the most painful part -he pays for the house again to get it........This kk government is really planning to eat Kenyans money with a big spoon....why is government really so bent on this issue
@Speq100
7 ай бұрын
This is one serious congame,you take my money build a house then I agana have to pay to own it ..
@johnmruka7984
7 ай бұрын
The CS is lying, why should a person who can afford 6500 shillings live in the slums
@johnmruka7984
7 ай бұрын
PS
@wanja7725
7 ай бұрын
Story za jaba
@owangh86
7 ай бұрын
PS Hinga you can't solve housing problem by building houses ..First deal with the Reason why Pple migrate to Urban ??.." Deal with Unemployment "
@gilbertmanyasi1901
7 ай бұрын
There is the aspect of maintenance that is not being addressed. Who maintains the houses and it's infrastructure? The government or the buyer?
@chagavah
7 ай бұрын
How soon can I get my house? am tired of begging landlords to do repairs in their own property
@W-W-W-616
7 ай бұрын
How much do you have and which people do you know in big offices? 🤣
@chagavah
7 ай бұрын
@@W-W-W-616 I know nobody, just believing in the Kenyan dream courtesy of our beloved president
@abrahamlorot7090
7 ай бұрын
You will wait for a very long time
@georgejuma9221
7 ай бұрын
@@abrahamlorot7090until the coming back of Jesus 😅😅😅
@mukohuwaere5366
7 ай бұрын
@@W-W-W-616🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I like that question 🙋
@Trevormy
7 ай бұрын
Aren't public resources for the public? Isn't public land of the Kenyans, by the Kenyans, for the Kenyans? Do we misapply the term 'private' as though the public land thus appropriated is being expressly bought by companies or made into private title, as opposed to being accessible to needful and rightful Kenyan households? All leasehold lands are still public anyway. The AHP is a game-changer by every stretch of the imagination
@samsonabok847
7 ай бұрын
Kuna land rates which many wana assume.i better i buy nyumba iko nje ya town.alafu hiyo pesa tumelipa ya nyumba inaenda wapi?
@pamelaotieno857
7 ай бұрын
Where did the monies collected upto and including January, 2024 from the salaried payslip employees go? And those who paid like some months and retired, what happens to the monies already deducted?
@chebukosiwasike
7 ай бұрын
The housing is an income issue unless household income improves,those houses are for middle class,if all projected houses are constructed will the housing levy be done away!
@KenGatimu
7 ай бұрын
The plan is not perfect but it's good, the only problem is the big deficit of trust we have with the government.
@joellubamo5696
7 ай бұрын
@13:55 ati 75% earn kshs. 50kand it is reliable data, although outdated? Ati even salaries have increased since 2019? Mama mia...😮
@kakwota1
7 ай бұрын
Once again, the focus is on the wrong thing. Govt works through PPP and have private developers work on construction of houses. Govt should focus on improving the economy to allow people get the house they want.
@kinyuamuthee
7 ай бұрын
Suppose the next president abolishes this law, what happens?
@makmendes1
7 ай бұрын
If you earn 100k, and choose the 6k house, then everymonth you will be paying 9k. It will cost you 3.2million to build a one bedroom house
@abdullahijma2073
7 ай бұрын
Why would I pay for 30 years to own a 1 bedroom house? Na hutakuwa na watoto pia?
@truthandrighteousness
7 ай бұрын
Am sorry to those that are convinced by this explanation, but I have to state that you are duped!! Imagine you are being taxed to build these houses and you will still pay for a mortgage to own the house? I don't care what the mortgage rates are but the fact is you will have to dig deeper into your pockets, that's if you can!! Futhermore who guarantees you will sustain paying off your mortgage?? There is a lot of speculation here..
@sonya0606
5 ай бұрын
😮
@jmk9504
7 ай бұрын
At some point in time, we are going to run out of this government land in places like Nairobi, what will happen then ?
@jameskiambati9816
7 ай бұрын
What of those who want to migrate to rulal area
@habonibrahim1885
7 ай бұрын
Why can’t the govt build affordable houses from public coffers and give them freely to the less privileged? It can be done.
@kinterest1562
6 ай бұрын
But in America, the mortgage rates are the same across different income levels.
@spidy.b
7 ай бұрын
Why can't the gvt just allocate money for Housing, why is it a special tax...this is double taxation for people already paying PAYE...please check on this tax...esp salaried employee's is extremely discriminatory
@bobm8637
7 ай бұрын
This housing tax is not about housing. Ruto has said that many times.
@NgetichKibet-ok2fo
7 ай бұрын
What can I do to get a house?
@giegor28
7 ай бұрын
Sewage and water is the elephant noone is talking about ..we don't have the infrastructure
@stove7197
7 ай бұрын
Average is not a good statistical measure for this rent argument in the slams....median is more accurate as it minimizes the skewing of relevant data.
@kinuthiazacharia7139
7 ай бұрын
With the government borrowing for 16.5pc for bonds. Where does they get 6pc.
@ramadhaniwambere8038
7 ай бұрын
This man isn’t making sense and why does he keep saying OK OK Right right. As if asking for confirmation
@b.tedley2586
7 ай бұрын
What if I am retiring in 4 years? How do I get my money back or benefit?
@moseswaweru1261
7 ай бұрын
I doubt is meant for you.But you can apply for the social housing.
@Ericjunior7656
7 ай бұрын
Let them built them then auction them and later collect rent..
@jameskiambati9816
7 ай бұрын
Does government do business
@kingralphie1280
7 ай бұрын
He failed miserably to answer the question of land ownership.
@robertonyango9702
7 ай бұрын
Rentals is a better way than land grabbing techniques.
@peterkmwangi5963
7 ай бұрын
You have a very hard job as muga said, thus your answers are not complete because there isn't any. Taxation is where the problem is because not everyone will get these houses.
@KurasaRegistrars
7 ай бұрын
Please bring better pple. This is a too low calibre thinking
@ChristianLight1746
7 ай бұрын
The PS gave examples of USA and China...and I hope the government can see the failures in both systems... The US had the real estate bubble and China has ghost concrete cities (un-inhabited houses) enough to house their population twice over (yet they still have homeless people), and it is economic trouble due to Its own housing bubble and pending crash.... Now tell me, is this what we are importing to Kenya, an oversupply of real estate? This will cause the collapse of the real estate sector...and frankly, I do not see a severe deficit in housing, such that the market cannot provide... And, why are the housing units more expensive than those made by private developers, when the project uses public land and subsidized costs?
@kahugumuiruri9057
7 ай бұрын
Did the PS say the banks will do mortgages at 6%? Or it will be the Govt funding borrowers at 6? Or it is another lie?
@otkk2022
7 ай бұрын
Omg
@Heegooat
7 ай бұрын
Buffoonery.... That money could have been put into R&D start ups... Mainly software, diesel engines, electric cars, solar cells and batteries.
@gachuhi
7 ай бұрын
I live in an apartment block where we have 200 plus houses. My friend, service charge collection is chaotic and we are talking about ''middle class'' peeps. Mixing social houses with other units is a big mistake.
@kahugumuiruri9057
7 ай бұрын
58:00 the PS gets emotional...
@DismasBosire-t4x
7 ай бұрын
We already own homes or being deducted to fund some homes somewhere please excuse us.
@moseswaweru1261
7 ай бұрын
It's a tax,with benefit. otherwise its supposed to be one way.
@DismasBosire-t4x
7 ай бұрын
@@moseswaweru1261 what benefits to me if I don't have a guarantee to own a home...wacha tuwape hiyo cent wale ni sawa tu
@ramadhaniwambere8038
7 ай бұрын
CT is trying to invent “mean” the mean of something is the mean you can’t change that
@snjugunachege
7 ай бұрын
This plan is just a disaster. Remove the ownership issue. Make them rentals for people to rent at affordable rates. It simplifies the law and makes it logical. A good idea badly implemented. It is not a must to own a house. Those who want to own should be provided with mortgages to build on private land and not public land. If this is the model i would not mind paying. But this ownership is just a corrupt scheme.
@jamesmwaniki7371
7 ай бұрын
You have a point.....
@sonya0606
5 ай бұрын
When idiots act over-smart, this happens lol...
@LoveMamlie
7 ай бұрын
Where does this money go?
@PolycarpOkoth
7 ай бұрын
This is madness of highest order how can you say the pple who will own the houses are pole earning more than 100k . Then why task the bellow averaged salary ppl but b4 you task pole think of why pole are going to other countries . Pole electeded dogs not leaders.
@Lilly-wp2gf
7 ай бұрын
32 billions . Enough to stock hospitals and build decent public schools with enough teachers. We do not want bloody houses. Create good environment to create opportunities for work and do business. PS you know this is a con. 😊
@kinuthiazacharia7139
7 ай бұрын
Mr. Sweat All is here to lie again.
@papa71725
7 ай бұрын
This is outright stealing from our hard earned payslips what a shame.
@myshnancy
6 ай бұрын
I cant trust someone named Hinga
@sonya0606
5 ай бұрын
😂
@sir-me1716
7 ай бұрын
Anything sold by govt. I can't buy. A new govt will come in the future & reclaim govt lands that were sold to the public. The govt that changed tune from cheap gas to cylinders 😢
@ndegwawarukira2912
7 ай бұрын
This PS is not being persuasive, he's not really convincing. This housing thing will become a major scam, he must be careful else in future when this housing thing will be relooked with a tooth comb, he may be in hot soup, coz am sure this thing will be a scam
@TIKTOK_CHANNEL101
7 ай бұрын
Love to see it 💯📈
@denl1234
7 ай бұрын
A big lie have ever heard in Kenya history but is ok GOD is watching tu
@Frankly747
7 ай бұрын
This being Kenya, this is just another money grabbing move. The houses will be built and owned by certain fat cats. In 10 years the rate of slum growth will have tripled despite this social housing project. Shauri yetu.
@josephnjenga8347
7 ай бұрын
the system is flowed at best...so you levy and also sell the units?? so basically someone is taxed to build and they can't use that tax/levy to off set the balance??
@sonya0606
5 ай бұрын
*flawed
@stove7197
7 ай бұрын
This PS thinks Kenyans are idiots...ati public schools that remain public for posterity are analogous with public housing that ends up private. And then as a desperate move try guilting the panel for a government duty/problem. Nkt!
@kingralphie1280
7 ай бұрын
He lost it
@WWEST464
7 ай бұрын
Who wants to own a one bedroomed house after 30 years? Elon mask would have made a million trips to mars and back,while you are stuck in a dog kennel
@moseswaweru1261
7 ай бұрын
How many servant have retired with nothing?your talking of 30 years,yet we have 80years living in kennel?
@gasperkiwo6109
7 ай бұрын
I cannot understand what this fellow trying to explain,mmmmmh ,aaaahh ,heeeee,what's all these are scammers I stop watching.
@Thrivar
7 ай бұрын
Scam....
@pamami1227
2 ай бұрын
So annoyingly simplistic. Sell this to the Martians.
@ofisi2025
7 ай бұрын
Huyo ni mkora tu with a fake accent.
@FaithOgeto-fl9gr
7 ай бұрын
This conversation drives me crazy! If the government said that they wanted to build social housing that would be owned by the government and would be rented to those that cannot afford decent housing, unemployed, single mothers etc that makes sense. I am contributing to social housing with has public benefit. And should i find myself jobless, fallen on hard times etc then i have access to this social housing. If i never fall on hard times then i have contributed to a national good. My good deed as a citizen. No problem. But this incomprehensible Act penalises me the salaried worker, who barely earns enough to support myself and then denies me the very house I have been taxed for. My guess if those three bedroom house with an en suite will go to senior government officials and their cronies (Just try and buy a house form NHC and come back here and share your experience). As a senior employee earning 100k after tax will never step foot in that house but will have paid for it. That house will infact be sold to me by that government official at 100-200% profit.
@johndoe-er3qi
7 ай бұрын
It was initially a contribution with an opt out plan, but now it's a levy, thanks to Omukiya Mutata's litigation, which backfired badly. In the end, Zakayo has been enabled to collect from a wider pool and collect even more money. 😄
@reubenkamau7070
7 ай бұрын
Very well put.
@abdullahijma2073
7 ай бұрын
Why would I pay for 30 years to own a 1 bedroom house? Na hutakuwa na watoto pia?
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