Elvis Pure Gold puts the echo in later Elvis songs to sound like the echoey Sun Release. it was release during Elvis' lifetime I believe.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed! RCA actually added reverb to a lot of Elvis material after Elvis died - the 50's especially, but later material, too.
@FrankieLovesElvis
Жыл бұрын
Now this is what I’m talking about !!! The M U S I C !!! Personally, I’ve always said, some of the best mixes we ever got were from the hands of the late Dennis Ferrante. The “Promised Land” 2000 release has got to be one of the best ever, and the Walk A Mile In Shoes box. Depending on who Ernst is in love with at the time, (Matt Ross-Spang) as a major fan of the mix and mastering of the Elvis catalog, you really have to dig in to see what better suits you and your ears. Vic Anesini’s vintage mixes/mastering on some of the 1969 concerts can’t be topped. More later… Thanks Jamie and John for another fascinating episode and take on your views concerning what’s most important.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Francesco! Yeah, Dennis was fantastic - only Sebastian is better, imo (and still getting better), and Vic is very good, too.
@FrankieLovesElvis
Жыл бұрын
@@EAPSociety Excellent response. What are some of your thoughts on some of the other past engineers, ie. Rick Rowe, Jan Ellison, Kevan Budd ??? Imho, Kevan’s work on the ‘50’s recordings is the Grail. No comparison. We’ve had some other one offs like Chris that worked on FTD s “Recorded Live On Stage In Memphis” And the guy from Pearl Jam, forget his name, Matthew?, who worked on 2012’s, “Prince From Another Planet”.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
@francescogreco5150 It's been a while since I looked at Rick's/etc work closely, especially since I've done mixing and mastering work, myself - so my ear now would be different. I absolutely agree on Kevan's restoration work being second to none, and his work is unique and stands on its own as a must-listen. I do think that Sebastian has topped everyone at this point (and is still somehow improving his work with just about every release), but Kevan is right behind him. That does make me think that an engineer look might be a fun episode on sound!
@Thazright87
Жыл бұрын
Viva Elvis... also an interesting concept for the Cirque du soleil show. I must admit that I do like some of the new versions on that disc (King Creole & Bossa Nova Baby). I would love to get the official audio of "Got a lot of Lovin to do" and "Jailhouse Rocks".. That track rocks!
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah - "Viva Elvis" is definitely one we'll talk about (part 3)! I like a few of those tracks, but John... not so much. lol
@jdmyerscountry
Жыл бұрын
Hey Jamie, I am surprised I am now just finding this channel but I'm glad that I have. I am five years older than you born in 1975 so these albums were the first NEW ELVIS albums for me as a child.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Welcome!! That's awesome - always fun to meet other Camden-kids! 😁🤣
@kerrydavidsadler980
Жыл бұрын
I'm new to the channel so going back and watching your videos. You two are just amazing in your knowledge of music and ELVIS.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Kerry! We're major geeks for this stuff, so it's fun to dive into all this stuff. 😁
@daren6977
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the discussion fellas! Inspires me to get out the headphones and really give extra attention to the releases mentioned. Excited for part 2
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks, Daren!
@nostalgiacafe4469
Жыл бұрын
The risk for true remixes is the preservation part, as we get further from the time when people first heard them - the versions that made the songs hits and influential - those originals get lost and new fans won't know which is the "real" version. This will intensify when AI is able to recreate his voice and creates even newer versions and songs he never even recorded - who will be around to tell those future listeners what is real and true.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Those are great points! You're right; AI is going to blur a lot more lines than anyone currently understands, imo: economically, socially, and historically. That's where every fan having knowledge of these things comes in - there are some good resources out there for fan information, and over time, we hope to create resources that fans can use for those things as well.
@gregory7038ty
Жыл бұрын
Thank you John and Jamie. This is a topic I am glad you guys are discussing. I have always been a fan of the Memphis Record and I feel it sounds better on vinyl than cd. I look forward to the follow up episode. Jamie, I have been a fan of your cds for about 14 years now
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Greg! Thank you so much! And I can definitely see "The Memphis Record" being better on vinyl than CD - it was very likely mastered for vinyl, as a lot of CDs at that time were using audio that was mastered for vinyl. Thank you on my music, too, very glad you're enjoying them!
@peterx1957
Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, interesting discussion about what constitutes a remix. To my understanding, a remix is where elements of the original are tweaked bringing some things more to the front, other elements such as lead vocals centred. The recent Beatles remixes are great examples of that. The "Sgt. Pepper" 2017 remix combined features of the original mono mix with the stereo. Sometimes it's enough to prick up one's ears causing a surprised reaction. One further example is the John Lennon remixed box set of "Imagine" where it seems George Harrison's Dobro playing is brought more forward on the album particularly on the track "Crippled Inside". There's a difference between a remix and alternate takes which are usually, by my understanding, earlier takes missing certain additional &/or overdubbed elements. Anyway that's my take on it. Educational video guys. Looking forward to part 2. Cheers 😊😊👍
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Peter! Thank you so much! Yeah, there are a few different things that have been called remixes over the years on Elvis releases, so we thought we'd dive in - with this episode being more about alternate mixes of the masters (though we do talk outtakes a bit, too) which is technically re-mixing them, though not what many people today consider a remix. 😁
@Patracat
Жыл бұрын
I have just stumbled on your channel, and being female, am having a chuckle at the comments mostly being from guys like yourselves😂. Reminds me of my late husband who took 20 minutes to set up his surround system to play music or watch a DVD...27 speakers, 4 remote controls😮. Like all of my girlfriends, I just want sound and picture, end of story😊. For months I did not understand what all the FTD products were about; I have the original vinyl records of most of Elvis' music, buying it at the time of release in the sixties and early seventies, and don't understand why people have to mess with the original. But I am a 75 year old girl 😏 with limited appreciation of technical stuff. However, I like hearing what you are discussing, and trying to get a closer look at all the memorabilia on the shelves behind you😊 I hsve subscribed, and am off to check out your other posts❤
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Welcome! We're so glad to have you! And we'll definitely be looking at the shelf memorabilia at the start of season 2, and a whole lot more! Feel free to ask any questions you like on the technical stuff, we're happy to help however we can; it's generally not so much about them being messed with for us, but about wanting his material presented in the best (and most complete) way possible (which is where the technical stuff comes in). Thank you again, and hope you're having a wonderful weekend! 😁
@haraldtrittner4396
Жыл бұрын
A really cool, exciting and interesting EAP Society Episode! I still remember purchased the 1981 "Guitar Man" Album and it was mind blowing. To me, it's still the only and very best Overdub/Remix ever, Felton Jarvis was the Producer and fantastic Jerry Reed played the Lead Guitar one more time on the Lead Track👌...after that the "I Was The One" Album plus "The Elvis Medley" 45rpm came out, why don't you mentioned it🤔 (talkin' about 1965 Version of "Tomorrow Night" i guess this was the very first Remixed/Overdub on an Elvis Song ever) Thanks for this fab episode; John & Jamie your the best👌
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Harald! Those two are next - but we did forget about "Tomorrow Night" - good catch!
@haraldtrittner4396
Жыл бұрын
@@EAPSociety you're welcome Jamie 😉
@nostalgiacafe4469
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this one - a great topic. My first glimpse into this world of alternative takes was on the early legendary performer series that had unreleased and alternative tracks. After that was the Guitar Man album you showed. I really liked that album, but at the time when I got it I wasn't really sure what I had, and there was no way to find out. Even later with the internet not remembering the album title I had a hard time finding it again. It was the first time i had heard a lot of the later more adult songs on that album, songs like a loving arms now that's how I remember them.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! And thank you for sharing about the album, too; I always enjoy hearing other fans' experiences and how they got into the music! 😁
@FrankieLovesElvis
Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I just picked up the “American Sound Sessions” FTD Today and it is phenomenal !!! More thoughts later.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Very cool, Francesco! Glad you're enjoying it!
@elvispresleycollectorsgroup
Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable as always
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 😁
@torstenschulze9739
Жыл бұрын
The Album I was the one...has new intruments and a new vocal from the Jordinaires,produced bei Tony Brown
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Yep! We're talking about that one next week, and "Guitar Man,: too.
@gussplat
Жыл бұрын
i don't have all of these but many of them
@sabakamahusky594
Жыл бұрын
differences of Remastering and Remixing
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Yes and no, actually - mixing and mastering are actually two different - but related - processes, which is why you'll often see the mixing engineer isn't the same person as the mastering engineer on Elvis releases. But it can certainly be confusing, so we'll have to do an episode talking more about that, at some point (mixing vs mastering). 😁
@luisjasinevicius8175
Жыл бұрын
Hi boys ! It is possible that Elvis liked his voice with eco in concerts ? Because in the audience recordings it is heard with eco , at least that's how it sounds for example in Portland 70 , Indiana 77 , Charlotte 76 . Thank you and TCB !👑👍👍
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Luis! I think some of that echo is from the room bounce, honestly, not so much the board, itself. But that would be a fun topic to discuss, too!
@biggestliberacefan1988
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jamie and John for another fascinating discussion regarding remixes I guess it comes down to personal taste or in some cases lack of . I really do think some original mixes can be improved on or made worse I actually think The Elvis Memories records are not an improvement as you stated these are not true un dubbed releases. The recordings with all the overdubs stripped away sound much better than these half assed productions that I was led to believe were Joan Dearys original concept not Colonel Tom Parker’s . I would rather hear the Felton Jarvis overdubs included than the terrible mess Joan produced thanks guys great discussion as always cheers Carl
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Carl! You're very welcome! I can definitely understand that perspective - I personally enjoy the OMoE mixes, but that's only because I knew what they were going in and wasn't expecting them to be undubbed (since I got them in the mid 90s). The marketing at the time of these releases was incredibly frustrating and I can imagine fans were pretty upset when they found out! And I believe you're right about this being a Joan Deary thing, now that you mention it!
@biggestliberacefan1988
Жыл бұрын
@@EAPSociety Thanks guys yeah I think your right about knowingly understanding what the OMOE was all about and how it was mixed let’s leave that stuff to the bootleggers and there are plenty of examples of that type of thing . I do like some of the tracks that Felton Jarvis remixed in 1981 for the Guitar Man Album To Much Monkey Business Just Call Me Lonesome and Loving Arms the sound I think is even better with with the original music replaced with at the time a modern backing but that’s just my taste or lack of it thank you very much for the reply . I think you will hit a thousand subscribers by the end of April and there will be no stopping you guys after that a lot of the Elvis aficionados are watching you guys as you really do talk about the interesting stuff cheers Carl .
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
@@biggestliberacefan1988 Thank you, Carl, I really appreciate that! Here's hoping we do hit 1,000 by then, and even more when season 2 starts! 😁 Very few tracks on "Guitar Man" do it for me besides the title track, but I definitely appreciate what they were trying to do, and I think it can be a fun aside and possibly (when done with care) a nice way to get people to hear Elvis in a way other artists aren't heard, which is great. 😁
@ELVISDINNERSHOW
Жыл бұрын
Great video guys! will the second part deal with the ''I was the one'' remix album? :)
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
It will, indeed! And the "Guitar Man" anf "This Is Elvis" albums, too. 😁
@biggestliberacefan1988
Жыл бұрын
Hi John or Jamie have made some earlier posts on this great subject just wondering if you guys or anyone out there knows if the original 73 pressing of Aloha From Hawaii vinyl quad mix sounds any good ? And also which is the best quad pressing Indianapolis or Hollywood and the Quad pressing was pressed at those two plants in 73 74 orange label and a black label reissue pressing in 77 would love to know cheers Carl .
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Carl! Those are some great questions! Sadly, I'm not as up in info about the Quad releases, but I'd definitely like to learn more - I don't know what all John is aware of, but I'll ask!
@biggestliberacefan1988
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jamie we have an original Promised Land Quad and it sounds really good perhaps a little more punch than the stereo version when playing on the 2 channel stereo . Appreciate you asking John and thank you for your reply Jamie by the way just finished watching Elvis Secret Agent the first 4 episodes loved and agreed with your review and now I finally know the true meaning of TCB cheers Carl .
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
@@biggestliberacefan1988 Oh, that's cool - yeah, at some point I'd love to hear the quad mixes (either via LPs or digital transfers, if that's possible). The track separation would, imo, lend itself well to larger mixes like Promised Land/etc. Very cool on Agent Elvis, too - and I'll keep you posted when John lets me know! 😁
@ROCKINGMAN
Жыл бұрын
Like re-mixes, as long as they are just stripping down the original master. Don't like completely new overdubs such as 'Guitar Man' 1981 album. Prefer the way Elvis would have recorded the song originally. Do like re-mixing where instruments on original masters are more prominent, such as a guitar that was almost unheard on original release. Not keen on Luhrmann OST or PHO CD.
@EAPSociety
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's certainly our preference, too - even if we do enjoy the odd detour now and again. 😁
@peterx1957
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there were certain elements of the Baz Luhrmann Elvis movie music that I didn't appreciate particularly the end credits with the attempt to 'modernise Elvis's music' by putting in rappy/ R & B stuff. Elvis is Elvis and doesn't need modernising. Elvis was an R & B singer back when those initials stood for 'Rhythm & Blues'. Cheers
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