Thanks for covering it all in detail, I can confirm everything I heard here is accurate :)
@woofie7520
Жыл бұрын
CapnBry, Thanks for the input to the video.
@Guitarshak
Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this video. Had exactly the problem with gyro mode. Eventually just used channel 6 and got my gyro modes working, but it bugged me so much! Spent a day trying to discover what was happening finally solved by this video 😀👍
@RCVideoReviews
Ай бұрын
Glad to help. Makes me smile when I know the work I put into these videos helps get people operational.
@aaronwright2778
29 күн бұрын
Also, if you're only available switch modes are "hybrid" and "wide", then switch your packet rate from 250Hz hz to 333Hz. It took me looking in detail at your setup to spot the difference. Thanks for the video!
@harryhalfmoon
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I only started using ELRS one week ago and I am so glad I stumbled across this so soon.
@AndyGJorgensen
Жыл бұрын
I feel like this video was for me I just asked this on the discord and got an answer right away. Thanks for all you guys do.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@wassimmatta8390
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate all your work John👍
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Glad to help.
@mrskyrydr
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely GOD SENT ! Great job John! and the Edge team! You guys are the best!
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. :)
@thomasbuss1118
6 күн бұрын
Fantastic info brother! Thanks
@RCVideoReviews
3 күн бұрын
You're welcome.
@spitfire7617
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have an Aura 5 lite and I needed this to make the 3 flight modes to work.
@RCVideoReviews
10 ай бұрын
Glad I could help.
@ToumalRakesh
25 күн бұрын
I ran into this just yesterday as I was switching to ELRS in a big glider.
@woofie7520
Жыл бұрын
John, Fantastic video on the most misunderstood part of ExpressLRS.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave.
@willay747
7 ай бұрын
Thank you. That was very helpful to a new ELRS user like myself.
@RCVideoReviews
7 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
@lightbulbjim
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, I'm going to direct people here in future :). For anything without a flight controller, I just set channel five to a high value (armed) and pretend it doesn't exist. Most of my aircraft are gliders without a motor, but even on stuff with a motor (and therefore a throttle cut switch) I prefer to just leave the TX armed all the time. The only real downside for my use case is that if the TX is on and the model off, the module will be blasting out at max power. But I cap it at 100mW for LOS use so that's not a big deal, and is in line with what other fixed power protocols would do.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Good strategy.
@SunjunKim
Жыл бұрын
I'm the one who wrote that "dynamic power is fully enabled" and I feel like I need a bit more description.. TL;DR: You don't need to set it fixed power. Use it. It'll work in LoS almost always. Dynamic power will work as always even with the arm switch is set off. as long as telemetry packet is incoming. There's the important keyword: "as long as telemetry is incoming" Dynamic power behaviour on telemetry lost situation is changing from the arm state (=ch5 low/high). As quad guys ourselves who flies long range, we have to think about what's the situation when telemetry is lost while we're arming... that means the quad is having hard time for sending the telemetry, which means we need to kick up the TX to the full power to send any command with the highest chance. That's what's the meaning behind the "dynamic power is fully enabled". When arming is off and telmetry is lost, it's probably you cut the power off the quad. The dynamic power will set the TX power to the minimum.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
OH! Thanks for the clarification. Yes, that would be very very helpful to see in the documentation. Thank you so much for the time and effort you've put into it. Very good work.
@geoffh7206
Жыл бұрын
Here is CapnBry’s explanation of how the armed/disarmed state affects dynamic power when telemetry packets are lost: “Dynamic Power uses the ARM state to determine what to do when telemetry packets are missed. If armed, then each missed telemetry packet after the first raise the power one level. If the connection is lost entirely, it will raise the power all the way up. If CH5 is always high, your TX will always run full power when no receiver is connected (when there is no telemetry received technically). If CH5 is always low, your TX will never raise power due to missing telemetry but will still raise power when the telemetry reports the signal is low.” So perhaps there may still be some wisdom in turning off dynamic power if using Ch5 as a fully proportional channel.
@divingfalconfpv4602
6 ай бұрын
Wait so for my rc ground vehicles with no FC I have to flip arm switch /ch5 anyway so dynamic power works?
@SunjunKim
6 ай бұрын
@@divingfalconfpv4602 Dyn power will still work when you have telemetry turned on. Only on "telemetry lost" situation will matter w.r.t. Ch5 "arming".
@divingfalconfpv4602
6 ай бұрын
@@SunjunKim ok thank u
@syros218
Жыл бұрын
John, very good explanatory lesson. Thank you for explaining CH5 ARMING.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment.
@CookeCraft
3 ай бұрын
Very informative, thank you.
@RCVideoReviews
3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@thomasprovo
2 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks!
@RCVideoReviews
2 ай бұрын
You're welcome.
@bjenn65
Жыл бұрын
Just watched and good work it helps a lot as I only fly fixed wing
@divadonroda5
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you sir for a great informative on this subject.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome.
@monami5201
7 ай бұрын
The way i configured arming channel 5 was by use of a logical switch. If the tx voltage is above the minimum i.e. 3.2v for 1s and 6.5v for 2s it automatically arms when the tx is turned on. Saves on using a switch.
@bushcraftmonkey7643
10 ай бұрын
Now I know why my Reflex V2 has only 2 functional modes... after spending hours trying to make it work 😅. Thanks for the video!!
@RCVideoReviews
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's gotten me more than one time. Glad to help.
@sea_kerman
7 ай бұрын
Another thing you can do is because all of this is configurable, if you have a PWM reciever you just go and set your reciever to output channels 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 instead of 123456, and then in your TX set 5 to always be high, or link it to your throttle safety switch.
@mick813
Жыл бұрын
As a fixed wing flier i think the option to put it on the throttle switch makes sense. ie throttle active it goes disarmed.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Usually for fixed wing configurations, we don't broadcast the throttle lock state though. That said, if you can give up ch5 and not affect the other controls of your model, assigning your throttle lock/unlock switch on Ch5 is a good practice.
@geoffh7206
Жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, throttle active should set armed state, not disarmed, if you choose this option.
@mick813
Жыл бұрын
Yes I got the armed disarmed issue sorted. It was a real pain, referring to armed in order to disable the module and armed to activate the throttle. Sheessshhh .@@geoffh7206
@itzjoeylo4501
Жыл бұрын
Great 👍 Explanation
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@craigcupit1917
Жыл бұрын
I needed this video to fully understand ch5 as I migrate everything to ELRS except my helis no rpm, temps. and 16 channel airplanes.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Glad to help.
@Mikeylikesit1968
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this cause I know I asked.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Glad to help. Hope this clears things up.
@MrKyle700
Жыл бұрын
very informative video. The ELRS documentation is a littttttttle sparse on the actual hardcore details like this.
@wezob4569
11 ай бұрын
So I have a ZOHD Kopilot and I'm going to couple it with Radio master's Pwm Elrs Er8gv and a radio master pocket and i need channel 5 as my 3 position switch. I intend on using SBus to connect the receiver to the kopilot. Are you saying that i can remap ch5 to a different channel so that i can use ch5 for my 3 position switch?
@RCVideoReviews
11 ай бұрын
You cannot remap channels within a serial stream. Remapping is a PWM feature. If you are going to use a serial protocol (SBUS) with a Kopilot, you have to do what I suggest in the video and be prepared to ignore the arming state. Use 333hz - 16/2 and you'll have 16 fully proportional channels in the SBUS stream to use on Kopilot however you wish (including Channel 5).
@fordboyzzzz
Ай бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews sweet, I purchased goggles l so do want to try fly far. somebody said dynamic will auto go full power from telem if goes too far fingers crossed. i got the new 3 axis gimbal too, new to all this so i bet connecting that will be fun haha. thanks
@MrDayinthepark
4 ай бұрын
My elrs receiver has GH connectors, I don't know how you connected to the toolkitRC. I'm waiting for the pixhawk 6x to bind. I wish I knew how you connected it here.
@dandork20
7 ай бұрын
Aura does use channel 5 for modes by default, but you can just change it.
@RCVideoReviews
7 ай бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for the note.
@stevebarrow3042
5 ай бұрын
I think they changed channel 5 for those wanting to use this in aircraft and have full proportional option on all channels.
@RCVideoReviews
5 ай бұрын
On ELRS, Ch5 is binary unless using 16/2 mode, then it's proportional.
@craigcupit1917
Жыл бұрын
iNAV is implementing helicopters and having problems with ELRS ch5. Helis have 5 base channels, collectives pitch and they are not sure how to set it up. lol. My 3 models that use all 16 channels i dont use elrs. On elrs you loose ch5 and ch15/ch16 are for rssi. Next ELRS release you can change ch15/16 pwm to what the tx puts out and not rssi.
@CapnBry
Жыл бұрын
That was actually just a bug in 3.3.0 that turned ch15/16 back to signal strength, 3.0-3.2 had (and 3.3.1 will) all 16 channels. If iNav is locking helis into using CH5 then that's a problem though. They gotta have a way to have it use another channel as an input though right? That would be insane knowing all ExpressLRS users would just be screwed.
@BengalCatChilli
Жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@TechnicallyTom
11 ай бұрын
The question I have I why we use digital channels like analog signals to flip on/off modes. Imagine if you could configure EdgeTX to flip individual bits on a channel and if in BetaFlight you could assign a channel and a bit on that channel to trigger a mode. However many bits on a channel would determine how many modes could be assigned to a single channel.
@RCVideoReviews
11 ай бұрын
ELRS is opensource. If you have the aptitude for it, you can fork the code and experiment. We need bright thinking like this in the hobby.
@TechnicallyTom
11 ай бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews This isn’t really an ELRS issue other than it would be important to account for different number of bits on some channels. This would need to first be made to work in EdgeTX and then BetaFlight would need to be updated to allow selecting a channel and bit for mode activation.
@RCVideoReviews
11 ай бұрын
There is a chain of custody for the analog inputs to the digital or PWM output on the model. Every calculation from the ADC to the onboard protocol (CRSF) to the OTA protocol to the remote protocolwould have to be made bit specific. If this is something you're interested in, I suggest you get involved and if nothing else, make the suggestion on the EdgeTX github.
@2008albaladejo
Жыл бұрын
Sir you just save my mental health I was about to go back to spektrum 😂 thanks for all you do.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Well!!! I'm glad we saved you from that.
@pixeldude1335
7 ай бұрын
What kind of widget is that at 17:12?
@redogg2749
7 ай бұрын
Hasn't this issue been fixed now with the latest version.?
@assafhen
10 ай бұрын
Hi, I fly my plane with RadioMaster TX12, I get after very short fly time battery / Fuel warning and also 120m when crossed. Any chance you know how to solve this problem?
@JustKeepLivingFPV
Жыл бұрын
Can you tell my why my power led turned to green on my boxer?
@alexherrera3918
7 ай бұрын
i have purchaser my elrs yet but this information is really important. Do you have a video for those who have no idea and wanted to start using it? thanks again!
@RCVideoReviews
7 ай бұрын
I do: kzitem.infoAdgBoYJNI0M
@723gageB
6 ай бұрын
Awesome Vid... extremely helpful. Trying to figure out how to get the Reflex V2 Gyro to jive with Radiomaster tx16s (with Ranger), and a Radiomaster ER8 receiver. could I just plug the wire leaving the V2 channel 5 into the Receiver channel 8 and program channel 8 to switch between the 3 gyro modes?
@RCVideoReviews
6 ай бұрын
The v2 doesn't really have a channel 5, it has a mode slot (SBUS PPM MODE). So if you're using PWM (and it sounds like you are, but you're unclear about it) you can provide the PWM signal from whatever PWM port on your receiver you want to use. For further discussion, I suggest joining discord.
@723gageB
6 ай бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews Thanks for getting back to me. Yes Discord sounds like a good idea.... I have a lot of learning to do!
@RCVideoReviews
6 ай бұрын
Our discord is a great platform where you can get lots of interactive help. See you there.
@michaelrajca6043
8 ай бұрын
if you bind the mpm to a spektrum rx, can you take advantage of as3x and safe that is in that rx
@RCVideoReviews
8 ай бұрын
Sorry. I don’t know the first thing about Spektrum. Guys in my discord do though.
@MikeG4936
Жыл бұрын
Any word from ELRS team that they might change the behavior of the other "full res" modes to allow proportional on CH5? Or is that coming against some kind of limitation?
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
There are some ideas floating around, I know that. The final implementation--that I don't know. So we'll have to wait and see.
@bigeclipse718
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm sadly a little confused on one aspect. So many of my airplanes use an a3s4 hobbyeagle gyro and I'm using the tx16s 4-1 with a ranger micro module. You mentioned a potential fan issue. What are your suggestions for setup in this case? I'm coming from spektrum so elrs has been quite the learning curve.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Please get on discord and ask there.
@ehjones
7 ай бұрын
ELRS is going to have to rethink this whole channel 5 is arming thing. I understand why they've done it, but it's a hack.
@tymoteuszkazubski2755
Жыл бұрын
IMHO the responsible way to track arming state would be to use FC telemetry and asume armed if receiver gets no telemetry data.
@rcvg69420
9 ай бұрын
I believe the reason it doesn't work like this is so that your radio doesn't go to full power if you have it on and your receiver off on purpose. Saves battery and rf pollution.
@tymoteuszkazubski2755
9 ай бұрын
@@rcvg69420 it can be mitigated by only going to high power mode if getting telemetry with armed state and going to low power mode only if actively receiving disarmed telemetry at sufficiently high power to prevent going to low power mode if at longer range.
@antoineozaneaux6881
Жыл бұрын
once ch 5 has been assigned . how can i use switch SC FOR ARM DISARM.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
SC has to be the source for Ch5 to send 1000us and 2000us.
@alanpaul1234
Жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks. What is the actual power output if you select dynamic 250mW and then don't arm. Does it stay at say 10mW and never increase or does it go to the max 250mW. I did some range tests with my plane armed and disarmed and it didn't seem to make any difference.
@alanpaul1234
Жыл бұрын
I think I have just found out. If you don't arm the model, the Dynamic power still works using link quality but it doesn't raise the power if it misses a telemetry packet from the receiver, which it does do if armed. So in practice the dynamic power works much the same when not armed as it does when armed.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
One of the developers just offered that clarification in comments as well. Thanks for coming back and sharing your findings.
@rickharms1
8 ай бұрын
The one thing I learned from this was the effect of D16/2. Now, what is that, 8 channels?
@RCVideoReviews
8 ай бұрын
16/2 refers to the packet rate. So if you start with 333hz and use 16/2 you get an effective rate of 166hz.
@rickharms1
8 ай бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews thank you
@andrewjamez
Жыл бұрын
What can't they make it so you can just pick dynamic power in the Lua. Either on or off.
@CapnBry
Жыл бұрын
The setting in the Lua does control if Dynamic Power is on or off. However, without knowing the Armed status, it just jumps to MAX POWER when there's no RX plugged in because it assumes you're flying and failsafed. I'm trying to work around this but Armed status indicates this 100% correctly all the time and any other procedure just sort of guesses which seems unsafe.
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for jumping in Bryan.
@Mikeylikesit1968
Жыл бұрын
So i can just straight use ch 5 on retracts and not remap the rx Using 333 and 16ch
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
Sure. And since you're using retracts which are binary, you could use any switch mode because gear are either up or down. Arm is either on or off.
@Mikeylikesit1968
Жыл бұрын
@@RCVideoReviewsAwesome, thanks for all you do for us
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@Mikeylikesit1968
11 ай бұрын
Funny as people ask about Ch 5 Arming on Facebook I post this video, and people say your wrong . But I guess you can't fix stupid lol
@RCVideoReviews
11 ай бұрын
Given one of the primary developers wrote this (and I pinned it) "Thanks for covering it all in detail, I can confirm everything I heard here is accurate :)" I guess you're right. You can't fix stupid.
@BrainDeadEngineering
10 ай бұрын
So put undercarriage on CH5 and arms is good go to. So you fly away armed and gear down..then in flight you pull up undercarriage and you disarmed and down it goes ? my poor brain ! I need meds !
@RCVideoReviews
10 ай бұрын
People with undercarriages do that. The issues remains for Ch5 in SBUS stream which is usually reserved for mode on gyros. It's a real problem.
@BrainDeadEngineering
10 ай бұрын
CH 5 is a son of bitch lol Your one of my top mentors ! I want to tell you I love you ! SBUS, when some said you can drive unlimited servos on one strand of wire ! I buckled on my desk top! I don,t want to know how lol my OCD ( I think Allesandro once quoted, SBUS should of never been invented. @@RCVideoReviews
@peterhancox5268
2 ай бұрын
“Arming” what?
@malte9999
Жыл бұрын
500 milliwatt not 500 Watt 😉
@RCVideoReviews
Жыл бұрын
OR IS IT? Why can't I cook my frozen burrito with my ELRS module? Where is that switch mode? Yes, thank you for the catch-- 500mW!!! :)
@rayray15307
8 ай бұрын
In aircraft it shouldn't matter because ch5 is gear
@RCVideoReviews
8 ай бұрын
Not even close. In EdgeTX there is no hard coded correlation between channel number and function on the model. In fact, a substantial number of flight stabilizers require channel 5 for mode setting which is usually somewhere between 3 and 6 positions. The hard coded linkage between ch# and function is a limitation of other ecosystems. Not this one.
@antoineozaneaux6881
Жыл бұрын
i am now offering 150 per hour in colorado for anyone willing to set it up .
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