Great stuff! A related video on the development of TeX and LaTeX would be equally awesome.
@PhilHibbs
10 жыл бұрын
The type is probably made from a lead-antimony alloy, which has the peculiar property that when it cools and sets, it expands slightly so that the metal squeezes into all the corners of the mould and makes nice sharp edges.
@super999999
9 жыл бұрын
0:06 "Just step back a bit" Zooms in
@phelpsio
10 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love listening to this man.
@Mrjesse451
10 жыл бұрын
So, I looked up on KZitem how the Linotype worked and found an old 1960s educational video on how it operates. Genius, pure genius. That guy who developed that was brilliant. I dont know why, maybe because I have grown up in the computer/digital age but Mechanical engineering seems so much more amazing to me than computer engineering. When I see things like the Linotype I am awe struck and think "Man, thats so awesome somebody thought up all those mechanical pieces working together to create that machine". When I use a computer program like a game or something I'm just like "yeah, whatever, a bunch of people spent a few years and wrote the code for this game". It's weird.
@DKRCecer
10 жыл бұрын
As a programmer I can't help but feel slightly offended by that... yet I totally agree at the same time. It's weird.
@KorsarNek
10 жыл бұрын
That's a bid sad. But I think the difference is, a computer program is like a black box and you only see the result, not how it worked to get that result. If you see the finished result from a Linotype, you probably aren't amazed either.
@davejordan6922
10 жыл бұрын
i'm a former programmer and a former linotype operator and they are both sexy the clatter of brass type vs the elegance of algorithms steak and lobster when my print shop went optical we had the lino torn down and hauled away i kept the driveshaft -- the "57 pound cylinder" to me and my friends it was ideal for crushing beer cans wafer thin
@delusionnnnn
10 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite typographic experiments comes out of someone trying to re-conceptualize type to benefit from the limitations of the era instead of working around them - Wim Crouwel's New Alphabet. I like it so much, I've re-created my own variant in OpenType with several different feature variants for my own use.
@89Ayten
10 жыл бұрын
As a typographer & graphic designer I loved this! Thank you!
@ASilentS
10 жыл бұрын
The Caslon italic ampersand is the most beautiful piece of typography in existence.
@89Ayten
10 жыл бұрын
Indeed! It looks arabic, how pretty
@RMoribayashi
10 жыл бұрын
Metal movable type printing using bronze was invented in Korea in 1230. Gutenbeg's greatest invention, the hand mould, could rapidly cast letters using a low melting point (~250C°) alloy of lead, tin, and antimony that is used to this day. He was helped along by preexisting inventions like the olive press and the fact that the Latin alphabet needed only around 100 characters. The 3000+ symbols needed for the Chinese language (or even the ~1800 Chinese characters used to represent Korean at the time) continued to make large scale woodblock printing more practical in both countries for centuries.
@ForbinKid
10 жыл бұрын
I was training on PDP-11's in the 70s in Massachusetts at DEC, and seem to remember there was a lot of push back from the printing unions about this new typesetting method replacing workers.
@BluishGreenPro
10 жыл бұрын
I don't think this should be relegated to an "Extra Bit", I think it should be up with the other videos on the channel. Fascinating stuff!
@mercatorpsi
10 жыл бұрын
Every "Desktop Publisher" needs to see this. I learned some of it through my undergrad, but there's a ton of interesting info toward the end! Thanks Brady!
@fergusmgraham
10 жыл бұрын
I could listen to him talk about anything. He has a very soothing delivery :-)
@mattgraham5625
10 жыл бұрын
Finally watched this. Left me wanting to see more.
@typograf62
8 жыл бұрын
Many of the details of moveable type and early typesetters are not completely correct. The blank metal slugs are spaces, not leading. Leading are longer strips of lead or aluminium. I've never heard about fibre optics in photosetters, moveable lenses, mirrors and prisms were the norm. When setting by hand not only are the types mirror images, you also read them upside down. You build (compose) the lines, type by type, in a certain tool - a composing stick - that easily holds a few lines of type. Then you move the lines to the galley where the page is build. The pages are put together in the form.
@jdgrahamo
10 жыл бұрын
I did a bit of type-setting when I was younger. The characters were read upside-down and back-to-front (so you could read left to right). Everything had to fit perfectly, otherwise any loose characters would just fall out. There are still a few printers' terms in use today, such as 'mind your p's and q's'. And apparently, though we never used it, the term 'dog's bollocks' which referred to the dash and colon :- A little video on printers would be nice -- daisy-wheel, ink-jet, laser. 3-D How they work etc. Just a thought.
@lloydnone
10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks for making this! Its great to not have a video that's rushing to finish!!!
@MuncleUscles
10 жыл бұрын
What never fails to blow my mind is how utterly fascinating and interesting any imaginable subject becomes when explored in depth, and even more so when beautifully explained by a knowledgeable and intelligent person like Professor Brailsford. Keep up the good work providing the best entertainment for high(and sober, whatever floats everyone's boats) people!
@Altorin
10 жыл бұрын
I love all of your videos brady, and this old guy is one of my favorites
@VernAfterReading
6 жыл бұрын
I wrote in Troff back in the 80s for a magazine we published. Then you would go down to some basement at the college and pick up the rolls of beautiful text so you could cut and paste them onto your layout. Still gets people when I say I did cut and paste literally - with an x-acto knife!
@sanches2
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot :) it was a very interesting tech history lesson
@evad1089
10 жыл бұрын
On the theme of typesetting, is a LaTeX episode in the works? I would like to learn more about LaTeX's history.
@sd4dfg2
10 жыл бұрын
I wrote my first resume in nroff. But printed it on a laser printer. I didn't know how much history I was jamming together.
@FishKungfu
10 жыл бұрын
This kind of history is so important to remember. Thanks for making these videos, Brady!
@michaelcaprio5269
10 күн бұрын
You've incorrectly identified TROFF the typesetting markup language as "Troth" in the sections of the video. He's discussing TROFF and NROFF, developed from ROFF which is a successor to RUNOFF text formatting.
@Treknologist
10 жыл бұрын
6:06 JJ Abrams approves!
@Cliffdog01
10 жыл бұрын
Considering that is how the early printers worked. How did the early Photocopiers work seeming as at least seem older than the early printers?
@btfx
10 жыл бұрын
Great pair of videos, but this serves much better as background to the main video than a postscript. (Hah. hah.) Perhaps next time post an annotation in the opening.
@Computerphile
10 жыл бұрын
Yes - fair point - the Professor and I decided that this intro/background part wasn't quite computerphile enough to be at the start of the other film, which is supposed to be about the jailbreak, though we wanted to add it - in total it would be a nice 35minute documentary about type and typesetting I suppose! :) >Sean (p.s. as with all EXTRA BITS, this will be released in its own right soon)
@fmontpetit
10 жыл бұрын
How is this 'extra-bits'? Another excellent video. Thank you!
@alexanderchildress9093
9 жыл бұрын
Did he just say 'fiber optic bundle' to transport a single optical letter? Wow - that's the first I've heard of fiber optics in such a (semi-)historical context.
@squelchedotter
10 жыл бұрын
I think the audio is a bit low on this one, checking your settings and comparing to other episodes might be a good Idea!
@ijunkie
10 жыл бұрын
Most people don't know exactly what Gutenberg's invention was. He put a movable frame under a wine press. That's it. He created the first movable printing press, not the first metal type, which was a Korean invention of the 14th Century.
@bdf2718
10 жыл бұрын
Most notable by its omision in this video (or the related computerphile videos I have so far seen is TeX. DEK does get a brief mention in one video but nothing about TeX ir Metafont. Strange, because I know TeX was in use at Nottingham in the 80s.
@Toschez
9 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad he gets the pronunciation of Univers right.
@OvyGr
10 жыл бұрын
what about MEPS used for printing top 1 and 2 most spread magazines in the world of 2013 in over 100 languages simoulanously?
@Nilguiri
10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks Brady.
@Chaoticmass
10 жыл бұрын
Very good recap of the history of typesetting-- only disappointed he didn't get to LaTeX.
@tiger10guy
10 жыл бұрын
Where does Knuth's TeX system fit in to all this?
@daedra40
10 жыл бұрын
Perfect nonetheless again on computerphile :D
@GegoXaren
10 жыл бұрын
\TeX Nothing more to say.
@MegaPeers
10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting again, thanks a million!
@siprus
10 жыл бұрын
To be fair, most inventors refined existing technology so that it became practical.
@TimSwast
10 жыл бұрын
Great history lesson!
@sysmatt
10 жыл бұрын
Superb work! Wow
@PapaNoahful
10 жыл бұрын
hey computerphile, really like the videos, but could you pleeeease work a bit more on your sound? I always have to turn up the volume to almost max, and if I forget to turn it down after your video it blasts my right off my chair..
@RealCadde
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff!
@ASilentS
10 жыл бұрын
Linotype FTW!
@certee
10 жыл бұрын
old people of the future are going to be so cool
@patrick1020000
10 жыл бұрын
OMG I GET IT computerphile = computer file
@Hewpie
10 жыл бұрын
Oooh I feel a video about LaTeX coming on... Can we have a video about LaTeX??
@MrAvocado42
10 жыл бұрын
why is this video unlisted
@joshcryer
10 жыл бұрын
Brady unlists extended bits to see how many people follow the About or Annotation links. ie, the hardcore viewers who really want to see the rest. Not sure if he lists them later on or not.
@Ludix147
10 жыл бұрын
He does. He did it right now.
@joshcryer
10 жыл бұрын
Ludix147 Thanks for alerting me to that, I kind of figured he listed after a time, makes the most sense.
@PatrickMcDougle
10 жыл бұрын
I think he does this to raise the likelihood of subscribers watching all videos. If both videos went into sub-boxes (provided the sub-box works) at the same time, subscribers might not watch them both. By listing the video a few days later, the time investment to each subscriber is spread over more days.
@5420EXTENSA
10 жыл бұрын
what's his name ?? where can i find more about him?
@Computerphile
10 жыл бұрын
Professor David Brailsford - plenty of films from him on Computerphile - check out our videos section -Sean
@TheBilgepumper
10 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they'll devote a whole episode to LaTeX?
@AdamKlobukowski
5 жыл бұрын
Typesetting history without mentionig TeX?????
@YouHolli
10 жыл бұрын
Are you going to cover TeX anytime soon?
@TonyLambregts
10 жыл бұрын
this is wonderful. (first)
@theseriousaccount
10 жыл бұрын
all theese vids are way too short... i want more indepth discussion.
@TheWhitePianoKeyProductions
10 жыл бұрын
lol, these seem to be A LOT of extra bits
@inopibus8418
10 жыл бұрын
Brady, please hold the camera still if possible or use a tripod. I feel like vomiting watching this!
@philbot01
10 жыл бұрын
These days, we can just go to the store and buy a printer for less than $100
@SkyGrain
10 жыл бұрын
"representing data in a " puts on glasses computerphile....
@BatteryAcid1103
10 жыл бұрын
Oh goodness... Oh gosh.. Do I say "first"? Umm... Uhhhhh...... Last!!
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