Notice that xLunaiire tends to spin at every jump as this gives free invincibility frames since jumps restore your spin to full; a great habit in the chance someone tries to hit you.
@novatau2897
11 ай бұрын
I thought it was just for style or to show off
@Shotgunner_K
11 ай бұрын
I still do that
@JinxKitzune
8 ай бұрын
3 months later golden fox players are now struggling because of how op the goose and sting ray are it’s rare to see a golden fox player win anymore lol. The only way to win as golden fox is to play for high risk gameplay. If done right you’ll be rewarded
@thehans255
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking this meta might be self-limiting, since multiple Golden Foxes doing this would be fighting neck-and-neck. But then I remembered that getting a kill fully refills your health, so that Golden Fox mob will nearly always have one survivor.
@MrScigeek101
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but bumping around slows you down and ruins your ability to boost since the golden fox has shit durability. While the golden foxes are fighting someone with the goose is gonna wreck through.
@GabzAugustoBR
Жыл бұрын
I've been using the video's strat. There is always a Golden Fox from the leading pack exploding in the last lap and there's always a blood hungry Wild Goose that somehow got among the leading pack in the last lap
@Clickonmychannel123
Жыл бұрын
Good luck ko somebody with the bronze fox
@theedwardian
Жыл бұрын
It is interesting, and perhaps a bit suspicious that the top 4 racers usually feature a mix of different machines. It's intuitive to think that different maps out overwhelming select for specific machines, but ostensibly most vehicles are viable on most maps despite their differences.
@rabbyd542
Жыл бұрын
This game is just a cluster f-$k. No skill everyone just slams into each other and hopes for the best. I wish there was a mode with no collision. Everything they changed regard boosting makes the game worse.
@JohnLattanzio98
Жыл бұрын
As a fire stingray player, the amount of power recovered blew my mind
@Zx30
Жыл бұрын
Right? Stringrays are lucky to get 1/3 power on the recovery strip lmao
@rafaelangelsolo
Жыл бұрын
This, it might have the fastest/longest lasting boost, but it drains so much energy you are lucky to use it once a lap, and that is not even discussing its regeneration.
@superxavxii421
Жыл бұрын
At least you guys can front run off pure speed. The foxes need boost to hold a lead
@Andre-od5hf
Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelangelsolo stingray doesnt need boost to frontrun. Fox dominates short/easy tracks (which is the majority of them atm so its no surprise its doing really well atm when only the "easiest cup" is available) since you can boost every lap very often, on longer tracks stingray will have an advantage over since it can simply use 1 boost a lap and still keep great speed over a longer track.
@Moss_Dude
Жыл бұрын
same lmao
@Mari_Izu
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Golden Fox was the worst ship in the original F-ZERO.
@vggeist644
Жыл бұрын
Sure was 😂👌🏽 always been my machine. Got bullied In X and gx
@MrRetrogamingBard
Жыл бұрын
and that's why I picked Golden Fox for F-Zero 99. I never realized its actual potential in this game.
@notpsicoh2107
Жыл бұрын
Not exactly, there was a very brief time it was considered the best vehicle for Fire Field, for every other course it has always been Fire Stingray.
@rafaelangelsolo
Жыл бұрын
@@notpsicoh2107 This guy understands F-Zero.
@Korrux
Жыл бұрын
I had a better time beating King League with it than with the Fire Stringray back then.
@MegamanStarforce2010
Жыл бұрын
the first time i saw golden fox's ungodly recovery, literally an entire bar every lap, i knew it was busted. you can just boost non-stop more or less.
@vvlaze
Жыл бұрын
fuck it we boost fuck it we boost fuck it we boost
@thevgmlover
Жыл бұрын
The trade-off being of course you kinda have to use it all, otherwise you're likely about to get overtaken.
@1stAid
Жыл бұрын
On the flip side, it has low durability. That means that getting bumped by other cars takes away more of your bar, which subsequently may prevent you from using the bar for boosting. Sometimes, between a boost or two and all of the bumping chaos, that full bar recharge is a lifeline instead of a lead maker.
@MegaTheman25
Жыл бұрын
Glass Canon ride. If you get caught up in the middle ur done for
@ratzelbarreto2070
Жыл бұрын
What it took you until now to figure it out? Good thing I was 20+ years ahead of everyone.
@MWilmott
Жыл бұрын
I never thought I would ever see an F-Zero meta discussion vid in 2023, but here we are! I’m liking this gaming industry timeline.
@psiga
Жыл бұрын
3:33 "Where will this lead the game? Will races come down to the final stretch, where ten Golden Foxes all fight to survive on their last ounce of energy?" Fox is always gonna be in our Final Destination. _Working as Nintended._
@EnvyDSin
Жыл бұрын
I can start to imagine Fire Field with Golden Fox only, lol.
@MajorLinkGaming
Жыл бұрын
I see what you and @EnvyDSin did there.
@trogdortamer48
Жыл бұрын
@@EnvyDSin If Fire Field is anything like the one in the SNES, it should be the great equalizer for vehicles with high recovery. The energy pit lane is located so that you miss a huge shortcut in taking it. I think it will be good for the meta in the end game.
@Placeholder501
7 ай бұрын
Oh no. Not Fox only Final Destination. Lol.
@SuperSaiyanMoses
Жыл бұрын
this is super smash bros melee all over again
@EnvyDSin
Жыл бұрын
No boosts, Fox only, Fire Field... I mean, Final Destination.
@Hugelag
Жыл бұрын
FIYA!
@TedbearFZ
Жыл бұрын
Golden Fox is going to naturally be balanced when Queen cup and especially King cup release imo. The knight league tracks are relatively easy compared to the other 2, Fire Field and Death Wind 2 alone should literally natural select them out of the running lol
@superxavxii421
Жыл бұрын
Fire Field will be crazy hard for the foxes if they make one mistake.
@thebuddah1253
Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know when that will be? Getting bored of these current tracks.
@donuts7607
Жыл бұрын
@@thebuddah1253somewhere late September apparently, and king cup should be somewhere in October.
@rebirthphoenix5646
Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting actually for the Queen League for the Golden Fox since for me it may be easier to win that and not the Knight League mainly due to Silence. Even many years later, Silence still gives me a ridiculous amount of trouble.
@ratzelbarreto2070
Жыл бұрын
We golden fox players don't talk about kings ranks stages it makes us shit bricks.
@1stAid
Жыл бұрын
I've been a Golden Fox user since the very start. I hope that it doesn't get nerfed too hard.
@sunggareachan7540
Жыл бұрын
Don't bring it to attention!!! Lmao, always been a Golden boy.
@vggeist644
Жыл бұрын
Lol golden fox in every game 👌🏽
@superxavxii421
Жыл бұрын
It won't. The later tracks are harder and will be more punishing for them. It's not op, it's just a glass cannon
@jonr8315
Жыл бұрын
@@superxavxii421Exactly, Fire Field will be brutal (for everyone, but especially Foxes)
@iamkakashi20
Жыл бұрын
@@jonr8315 yeah they won.t nerf it. the new players that never played snes don.t know whats coming yet. when we get queen and king cup oh boy there gonna know that true pain really is. just wait tell red canyion 2 omg lot of em are gonna be falling off trying to take that short cut.
@Loren_Law
Жыл бұрын
This is what It felt like to use golden fox the first few days, but players are getting better at catching up with the skyway. also players as a whole are getting better.
@Justnothankyou132
Жыл бұрын
All the children have stopped playing and now it's just the betas
@MarkTomczak
Жыл бұрын
I haven't perfected it, but I suspect that the counter is chasing a golden fox leader with wild goose. On the first lap or two if you race a perfect line behind them, you can keep up with them even with their ridiculous boost. You'll burn through basically all your energy, but here's the thing: So will they. So once they're exhausted and right at the edge of the recharge bar, hit them. You'll regain all your energy for KOing a human driver. High risk. But high reward.
@aleckermit
Жыл бұрын
That's what the Wild Goose appears to try during the Mute City race in thos video.
@hobojoe285
Жыл бұрын
@@aleckermit the mastery of KOing foxes has yet been required by stringrays/gooses. That time will come.
@dave9515
Жыл бұрын
They are not cause wild goose can go to low energy on purpose to push the fox back into the pack. Lunaiire is being carried by players not abusing the pinball physics and responding very aggressively to them trying to frontrun. Only viable vehicles in this game are Goose and Stingray cause falcon and Fox rely too much on boost and are not very durable. Try playing lobbies and frontrunning with people now much better. Its rare not to see a lot of knockouts anymore.@@aleckermit
@coganaj
5 күн бұрын
Wild Goose chase anyone?
@patchyourselfup
Жыл бұрын
These maps lend themselves well to GF play. Wait till Queen and King courses come in; other machines will have their chance to shine in top play
@VestedUTuber
Жыл бұрын
Until people figure out the optimal boost points on those tracks too.
@Mage_Nichlas_
Жыл бұрын
I just use the Blue Falcon in 99 because it's the one I used the most as a kid. Favorite color is blue, Captain Falcon is awesome, and so on but I remember also liking how the Golden Fox felt when I was experimenting to get across the jump on White Land II that always killed me. I didn't know until 99 that you can hold up and down to finesse your jump height and landing.
@eudaimonistic
Жыл бұрын
I believe Blue Falcon can't even make vanilla White Land II jump without either holding down or boosting. I died so many hundreds of times on that as a kid...
@Mage_Nichlas_
Жыл бұрын
It absolutely cannot.
@sergioescobar1391
Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder: In the F-Zero anime, the Golden Fox canonically has an S-class booster.
@nsanity4624
Жыл бұрын
I actually wanna bring up that despite this, the game is still balanced. If a Blue Falcon player manages to score any KO's, it now has the leniency of boost like the Golden Fox, making it just a faster Golden Fox. I still think it dominates most tracks, but given Falcon's better grip and speed, it likely can squeeze out a couple wins while the others are left in the dust.
@brazilian_oak
Жыл бұрын
I think most have realized this, but I have to repeat it: NEVER EVER TURN TO AVOID BUMPERS On the original F-Zero they were erratic, both moving on straights and slowing down on corners, but on this game they go on a fixed speed AND on a straight line, meaning that turning is only good for avoiding them in corners, never on the straights Player bumpers are different, of course, but CPU bumpers are straight garbage and full of brainrot. Turning to avoid them means you get a faceful of barrier and a very likely crash out
@Selnathorn
11 ай бұрын
Heck, bumpers in the original sometimes even stopped dead in their tracks. I still vividly remember how I almost beat Queen cup on expert as a kid, but in the final lap of White Land 2 a bumper was just standin in front of the jump pad in the exactly loaction I was coming out of the corner. I bumped into it, lost all speed and crashed out in the jump making me lose my last life. Man I was mad
@trogdortamer48
Жыл бұрын
It's kind of odd to see how this video has already aged in the past 3 weeks. It's crazy to think how quickly the community has learned to play the game. I think that Golden Fox is very dominant in standard, single races, but the Goose is far better for grand prix's simply because it scales so much better with K.O.'s. It's not hard to beat xLunaiiire in the final 2 races of a prix using the Goose if you have sufficient K.O.'s these days, and that's even with xLunaiiire pushing the Fox to its absolute limit. I think the big problem today is that so many players know exactly when to time the skyway and how to farm K.O.'s off players and bumpers in the first two races that it makes the recovery of the fox negligible in the final 2-3 races of a prix. The energy bar scales via a percentage value, not a fixed increase for each vehicle. Because the Goose has 6 boosts in one bar, it scales the strongest from getting a bunch of K.O.'s. Granted enough K.O.'s, the extended fuel tank can outmatch the recovery speed of the Fox, especially in later tracks where the boost recovery pad is shorter. The Goose is also the best suited for farming K.O.'s, since it takes the least damage from player interactions and can comfortably sit in rear places without taking damage. If you can time 2 good Skyways, which are very easy to generate when running a bit from the front, you can jump back into the top 7 places during the 3rd and 4th lap using the extended energy bar. Once you've got your bar extended, it's just frontrunning from then on over the rest of the races in the prix. All that said, the Fox is the most consistent racer. The fact that it's biggest strength is tied up in the boost pad means that you aren't relying on as much RNG to give you the edge in the later races is great if your goal is to rack up leaderboard points rather than wins. I think that the fox has a very good average performance for every race, but will never set any records. And yes, I have beaten xLunaiiire repeatedly with the Goose back when he mained Golden Fox for Grand Prix's. Since then, he tends to run Fox and Stingray for prix's, and to very good effect! I'd say he is among the best Stingray players out there and is very, very difficult to beat. I think he has since made a blend of older 4-lap frontrunning techniques with the Fox and combined them with getting a few K.O.'s here and there in the early rounds. You don't tend to see him frontrunning as much in the first two laps on the first race when he's using the fox, since he's trying to extend the boost meter. He knows that with a well placed Skyway or two, he can get right back into the top 5 and finish in first on the final lap anyway. My chances of winning seemingly disappear whenever I see his name in the lobby.
@senpai2.054
Жыл бұрын
time for wild goose mains to hunt and destroy golden fox machines
@ThunderRazorYT
Жыл бұрын
I thought that was Golden Fox's game plan from day 1, boost and recover to glory. Once you have multiple Foxes up front they start to collide and cannot boost as much giving other ships a chance. However, if you can separate and keep clean lines the #1 spot rarely gets challenged. Players are getting better at using the Skyway, so I think that is giving the Fox a challenge. In fact, I used to see like 7 Golden Foxes in the top 10, now I only see a few, like 3 max.
@barcster2003
Жыл бұрын
That is the gameplan. It's paper thin because as soon as the other cars start taking out players they will be much faster than the golden fox.
@De_kaid
Жыл бұрын
@@barcster2003but if you take out players with golden fox you get even more boost time, it's so broken it beats the others at their game too, going for kills is always risky, but especially in a grand Prix getting 2 or 3 kills in a golden fox is a guaranteed win down the line
@gr8gamer350
Жыл бұрын
I definitely felt like I noticed a shift from Wild Goose to Golden Fox since launch. I'd imagine when more of the harder tracks get added it will become harder for Golden Foxes to front-run so consistently.
@LinktheSamoyed
Жыл бұрын
"youve landed some first place finishes" ... looks at my level 23 with no wins record.
@spaceman_256
Жыл бұрын
I just ran into this guy in a knight league a few hours after watching this!! He got first in every leg lmao. He was rank S18, and according the leaderboard that was his 101st prix win. I, on the other hand, was just trying to unlock the decal for blue falcon. I made it to silence, but that was the race that i discovered you die instantly if you jump and land outside of the track 😂
@mrsuperheatran2794
Жыл бұрын
I generally switch between the Blue Falcon and the Wild Goose. Not that great of a player but it still just fun to race away at each couse. Best I've placed in is 12th place.
@dmappzoom6778
Жыл бұрын
I've played with all of the cars, but mostly stick to the blue falcon and 14 was my best position on the first time playing.
@user-th1pv6ks5o
Жыл бұрын
Yeah 12th is also my best, I usally use fire stingray, but mostly because I'm just trying to grind out the customizables.
@user-gs8jv4oq6w
Жыл бұрын
KO’d just before finishing first 😢😢😢😢
@WuShuu
Жыл бұрын
Ive tried all machines and only managed to win with the blue falcon the gran prix
@acusterx
Жыл бұрын
Good for them. I'm sticking with Wild Goose at A rank and climbing. When I unlock all the WG skins, then I'll race with other cars to complete the sets.
@EnvyDSin
Жыл бұрын
We all have our main/favorite but I agree with the "play with everyone to eventually unlock everything" thing. That's what I try to do.
@insidiousy
Жыл бұрын
I will always be an advocate for the Fire Stingray (Since I won a Grand Prix with it), but have also noticed how much harder it is to win. The Golden Fox with a few KO's under its belt can dominate lobbies. I've also noticed that taking the Skyway can be more beneficial than staying in the front sometimes? Maybe it's just me, but the final lap of Mute City gets me KO'ed more often than others, due to the explosive bumpers on the final turn. There's definitely a lot more to learn, and more-so with the upcoming tracks. Neat video btw!
@beanburrito4405
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think the best way to win a Grand Prix is get a few KOs early in the first race, save your meter until Lap 4 by not boosting and hanging around the 20s and 30s accumulating a couple skyways, then spam boost and skyway in the right spot on Lap 4. As long as you get top 10-5 in the first few races and top 3 in the latter few you will get an easy Grand Prix with this strat. Problem is that you can’t always guarantee a kill
@marble9071
Жыл бұрын
Honestly worst thing about Fire Stingray is having to fight through the crowd. Stingray dose have acceleration problems and that means getting trapped mid pack which can be lethal. If you can make it past the crowd you can front run, IMO Sand Ocean is probably the best track for Fire Stingray right now
@insidiousy
Жыл бұрын
@@marble9071 oh, absolutely! That also might be my favorite track atm. Right now, I'm just trying to unlock everything.
@Palgrave
Жыл бұрын
@@marble9071 Fire Stingray is great on Sand Ocean due to its superior cornering, I haven't gotten many 1st place wins yet but one of them was using FS on Sand Ocean
@marble9071
Жыл бұрын
@@Palgrave Driving FS is like Driving a Ferrari but you're on a one-lane road stuck behind a bus. Sand Ocean is one of two maybe three tracks where you can actually make it past the bus. When FS can make it past the bus it's great and is likely to dominate. Sand Ocean and White Land 1 are where FS demonstrates that because that's where it can actually make it past the bus. Port Town 2 being the maybe 3rd
@Torjuz
Жыл бұрын
Title wise, this couldn't be better since 90% of the time you just end up exploding 2 meters from the energy strip, since you get bodied by bumpers or others when you have taken one too many hits earlier when you ended up in 10-30 range LMAO. Golden Fox truly is a glass cannon, though super fun to drive. Was a hardcore sting ray until I saw the potential for this day 2
@hyakin7818
Жыл бұрын
And i thought i had figured out the meta game of the fire stingray Stay at around position 50 and farm for sky way In laps 2 and 3 kill as much enemies as you can Just boost the heck out of lap 4
@danmiy12
Жыл бұрын
One thing to note is if a golden fox cannot get a lead and falls back, the low top speed hurts it a ton, but at least it can recover a ton of hp. Queen and king cups have more obstacles to worry about so golden fox might balance out if it cannot boost enough to get an early lead and has to conserve hp and not be able to boost, it will drop behind. So far in the easier knights cup i can see it being a top pick for sure.
@GabzAugustoBR
Жыл бұрын
I play golden fox, I noticed how strong it is to take first place early and hold it when I first got my win (Death Wind course) But I did not know how strong it was to burn a lot of boost early, I always try to conserve it if I fall behind but I get it now: If I boost to first early and drive consistently, I won't fall behind just like my first win
@colbyboucher6391
Жыл бұрын
Getting ahead = not getting knocked around like a pinball
@mrmediocre848
Жыл бұрын
Plus not boosting other racers while slowing yourself down
@GabzAugustoBR
Жыл бұрын
Ok I finally got home and tested it, played Mute City twice, won both lol It really does work, needed some luck here and there and a bit of patience to avoid the red NPCs but it worked, even had two or three other Golden Foxes trying the same strat in the race.
@Koishi97
Жыл бұрын
I honestly hate how the Golden Fox controls really. The Firesting Ray always has been my go to vehicle since I learned about F-Zero speedrunning because of its amazing top speed and tight handling. But wait till the Queen and King leagues come out. We'll see how long the Foxes last.
@barcster2003
Жыл бұрын
It only works because he takes a lead early and then boosts to the limit.
@josuebasterretxea3923
Жыл бұрын
¡WOW!, i remember Golden Fox used to be the HARD MODE, and the Fire Stingray the meta of the very first F-zero. Maybe that was because it wasn't an online game back then.
@julianofs6041
Жыл бұрын
That's because they decided to use boost from F-Zero X instead of the tradicional S-Jet boost of SNES. Best acceleration + multiple boosts + track memorization = 1st.
@rafaelangelsolo
Жыл бұрын
Nah. Fire Stingray simply had a broken level of speed gain on arrows, perfect curving with out speed loss, and no slipping when turning as well. Now that boosting comes from energy, and it reduced to maybe one boost a lap, its hard to compete.
@risel56
Жыл бұрын
Man, even in his own franchise, Falcon can't compete with a Fox.
@anthonymudge9768
Жыл бұрын
And I was just looking at this ship yesterday due to it's acceleration, which I thought was useful when you're being bumped continuously. Didn't even know what "Recovery" meant 😂
@starfox300
Жыл бұрын
There is a stingray called Dotman who beat Lunaire multiple times
@TheVitaltundra
Жыл бұрын
It just recovers sooooo much energy.
@barcster2003
Жыл бұрын
Yes it does. I think people arent used to the idea you are supposed to knock other players out with the other vehicles.
@MadX8
11 ай бұрын
@@barcster2003 Good luck catching up with a good GF player though. You'll lose all your energy trying and die. But then again, not all GF have Lunaire's level.
@barcster2003
11 ай бұрын
@TheDanteXIII the issue is it's really hard to get kos.
@splatos
Жыл бұрын
I've gotten a grand prix win with all four machines, and I'd definitely have to agree that golden fox is the most consistent. On most of the tracks the other vehicles don't have enough power meter to consistently boost out of corners that force them to lose their max speed (especially after making a mistake or getting bumped at any point in the race), or at least are forced to play extraordinarily risky in order to drive multiple laps without dropping speed. Even on tracks where the fire stingray and others can attain max speed from start to finish of the entire race (death wind I), golden fox still keeps up if not outpaces them with the more frequent boosts from my experience (not to mention the burst of speed the fox gets often really helps in overtaking 1st without them being able to block the fox behind them, while they usually have to creep up behind the fox allowing for it to block its path and knock down their speed when they bump each other). I would say however that with a solid KO or two the fire stingray has the meter necessary to fly across all of the tracks no problem once attaining 1st (I'd say the KO power increase benefits the other machines more than the fox, but it's hard to say how a stingray with 2 KOs would compare to a fox with 2, fox might still be better at holding the lead, especially with how the fox is given 1st from the start while the stingray needs to fight to get there)
@marble9071
Жыл бұрын
Fox wins at Death Wind 1 and Mute City 1 Stingray wins at Big Blue and Sand Ocean Silence is fairly even imo
@feigneds7302
Жыл бұрын
not sure I recall Golden Fox ever being under represented. 9 out of 10 races I do the top 5 are mostly Golden Foxes, and it's been that way from the start.
@rosienroller
Жыл бұрын
Y'all out here acting like this game has had years of meta. It's a week old
@SkyBlueFox1
Жыл бұрын
TBH I’m not surprised, but I do find it oddly refreshing that the vehicle most suited to new players is also one that’s so strong in the right hands. Like, I initially started off driving the Fox because the recovery was more forgiving towards my newbie mistakes. Recently, I switched to the Falcon and I’ve had a good time with it, but even before seeing this video, I’d been considering going back to the Fox because I feel like I’ve gotten an even better grip on the gameplay. It’s neat!
@ikki-gaming8933
Жыл бұрын
In the original F-Zero I only played Fire Stingray, every other car was bad compared to that, but online against 98 people I've noticed, that Golden Fox can lead much easier, bumping doesn't affect its speed as much as of Fire Stingray. Will be interesting to watch how the meta changes with patches.
@StewNWT
Жыл бұрын
They need to mod It because there never used to be that much variation in recovery between vehicles. He literally gets triple what the pink car gets
@barcster2003
Жыл бұрын
I think that maybe the recovery of the others could just be a bit better.
@owlface5023
9 ай бұрын
This video, this player. This was the origin of the golden fox hell.
@dunnono00
Жыл бұрын
Kinda makes me happy. When I was young, Golden Fox was almost immediately my favorite after reading up on it in Nintendo Power. It looked neat, it was golden, and accelerated like a bat out of hell. Unfortunately, it was also fragile and didn't corner well, so it was considered the worst. The Stingray was what most people went with since it had the highest top speed, great cornering, and also the second most sturdy. I'm glad to see the Fox is a top choice in 99. Feel vindicated in a way lol.
@Cool_Hand_Luke
Жыл бұрын
I did not expect 20XX to come for F-Zero, but here we are
@Sourcian.M.Studio
Жыл бұрын
A very haunting and echoing 'Fayyaaah!' gets heard.
@themorbidkid187
Жыл бұрын
Its funny, cuz this is exactly how you would play the OG F Zero on the SNES if you wanted fast times and were not a WR speedrunner. Even the spots where he boosts is where you would do it on the SNES along with the fact he strafes to avoid bumpers instead of turning because if you turn you lose top speed.
@mikaelrivacov5705
Жыл бұрын
I'd actually love watching 10 Golden foxes destroying each other🦊😂
@Mitsu_Vagrant
Жыл бұрын
What in the actual fuck. That energy recovery speed is broken, I had no idea. I’m going to riot.
@gekinatracksuit9710
Жыл бұрын
RIP Fire Stingray 1990-2023
@KingCrimson82
Жыл бұрын
Still works in training though
@geo1389
Жыл бұрын
They need to make him faster!
@TheNelman
Жыл бұрын
I see a rework for the Golden Fox, effectively nerfing it but making it a better fit against the others.
@OGNoNameNobody
Жыл бұрын
So _That's_ how you win with *Fox* in Classic _F-Zero_ ; *Unlimited boosts!*
@ronn201
Жыл бұрын
I suspected that since it picked up speed immediately, it'd be the best at cornering. And with most tracks have a massive amount of corners, I knew it had to be a strong contender.
@jtrevor99
Жыл бұрын
I'll be interested to see how the Fox does on Death Wind II. On the original SNES game it was literally impossible to take first versus the AI (on Master difficulty).
@CS2SILVER1
Жыл бұрын
Definitely going to try this still haven't got win but consistently getting top tens.
@DrNuyenVanFaulk
Жыл бұрын
When there’s a gang of foxes in the lead beating the hell out of each other, the ability to boost frequently is going to go. It’ll be a mini battle royale but the victor is still going to be left in a dangerous condition.
@Kohchu
Жыл бұрын
I can't really say I'm shocked that it would evolve this way. I always viewed the Blue Falcon and Wild Goose as the safe picks, recommended for new players getting in, while the Fire Stingray and Golden Fox are more expert ships, as they punish you harshly for mistakes. However, I hope at some point some of the mechanics are more adjusted. A lot of the mechanics from F-Zero X were brought into F-Zero 99, such as the boost system, and the spin. The game also openly encourages KOs, with them increasing your energy meter, and even refilling your energy if you KO another player... however; achieving this in game is almost never possible, unless someone boosts way too much and puts themselves in critical condition. The devs changed the spin to a defensive move (which is fine. With 99 players, you need an option to protect yourself), but without a dedicated way to attack; KOing seems like something you rarely get to do, unless you happen to pass by a player who's car is glowing, and they'll usually spin anyways to stop you. In my opinion; this could easily be fixed by adding the shove from F-Zero X, where if you double tap L or R; you shove your car in that direction; which can shove players into the blast border for extra damage. This could also create a risk/reward system, since the Shove could now be countered by the Spin. If you shove a Racer when they are Spinning, you get pushed away instead; and there's always the threat of missing if you're off.
@markg5480
Жыл бұрын
I think you're right. Golden Fox and Fire Stingray were the "high risk high reward" crafts. Golden Fox was very difficult to handle, and, much like DonkeyKong/Bowser, Fire Stingray was great up until you hit a barrier and had to endure its slow acceleration. Adding a shove would be great. I don't mind the spin, but a lot of the time I don't know what or who I'm affecting with it.
@Kohchu
Жыл бұрын
@@markg5480 The Golden Fox does well on stages that are more wide open where they can boost freely. It becomes more of a problem in stages like the newly added Death Wind II; because you're much more likely to lose control and bounce around. Stages like Death Wind II make the Fire Stingray and Wild Goose more viable, because they can take corners/hits better; while the Golden Fox can still win, it's much harder since a single mistake could see you crash out. I still believe the shove would be a good addition to spice up the gameplay. I'm fine with the way the Spin was added; taking it from the F-Zero X version (which was purely for offense) and toning it down into a defensive move is great. But we need an offensive move to encourage aggressive driving and be able to influence the match more. KOing is rewarding, and can change the flow of the race; but because it's so difficult currently, it just feels like luck if you do it. Camp KOing the Grey Cars is easy, but KOing players is absurdly hard, unless that person is making mistakes left and right.
@fsfreturns5242
Жыл бұрын
I've met xLunaiire in the game, and I got bodied by them on Sand Ocean despite maining GF myself. I do have almost the same boost pattern on Mute City as they do, but I'm trying to conserve a bit of health by keeping one extra boost just in case. And there were times where I was right to keep that boost, since there were times the extra health saved me from being killed by a red bumper.
@PixelatedRhythm
Жыл бұрын
Let's be real, in any racing game there is always going to be a meta or something more dominant online than other things. I'm kinda glad that I've chosen Golden Fox since day 1 rather than just choosing it from the meta. Hopefully Nintendo doesn't release too much balance patches like they did for Mario Kart 😅
@squiddu
Жыл бұрын
See, for MK it was good, because it made more vehicles viable. Sure, there was still a "best build", but there was more that was still usable. This feels more like they should wait a while before trying to balance anything significantly, perhaps between the Queen and King leagues.
@dakotajones293
Жыл бұрын
not in trackmania, or basically any game thats speedrunned. theres no stats so its pure skill
@dave9515
Жыл бұрын
Asia specifically is dominated by blue falcons and stingrays now. The west seems to love wildgoose. Blue falcon is definitely the meta thats being developed and the top player of this game currently on the leaderboard with the most points uses blue falcon meaning blue falcon has won the most GP's the most consistent. Golden Fox is already falling off. Its issue is getting the lead and when people use their spins and boosts wisely you can keep the GF from ever breaking away for a long time so stingray has better lead potential since it can brawl. I am just surprised to see BF get so many great consistent results all of a sudden honestly given the vehicle usually never dominates in any way. Guess the 99 players is a factor to it and it can surprisingly do well keeping up with the stingray when the ray break aways if people are good at the track.
@kongobongo6064
Жыл бұрын
Falcon and Goose has produced the most wins for me so far. I think Stingray has a lot of potential but I need to get better with iy
@superxavxii421
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how this game already has a meta like this. It's growing fast
@kongobongo6064
Жыл бұрын
@@superxavxii421 It's amazing, and I'm still chasing the GP win. I've gotten second multiple times but I'm always against a purple stingray with 99+ wins 💀
@dave9515
Жыл бұрын
Good luck with that man but i am gonna be honest. Game has drastically changed now and people are insanely good now that golden fox and blue falcon have fallen off quite hard imo. You can't survive the pack well enough or get a high enough top speed to break away that it feels really luck dependent winning with blue falcon now and golden fox cannot front run now that goose mains agressively start matches to counter frontrunning along with everyone else if they are good. The change in playing has altered the game yet again. I think falcon and fox are unreliable because of their reliance on boost for speed now.@@kongobongo6064
@JD-fd6gt
Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as " The Meta " , he is just simply demonstrating he is skilled at the game and knows how to use his Golden Fox. If everyone copies the strategy then that proves they are pathetic and don't know how to practice and use and develop their own skill and strategy.
@Retronize84
Жыл бұрын
I've done this myself and I'll always end up hitting a bumper and dying, lol
@GoodMomo
Жыл бұрын
These Golden Fox players have been dominating since the first few days. They make it look easy but its definitely the hardest ship to use.
@MrDerpHerpinThe3rd
Жыл бұрын
Bruh it's the easiest to use
@vvlaze
Жыл бұрын
I feel like it doesn’t excel as much in Grand Prix due to extended energy meters carrying over between races. A Fire Stingray that can safely boost a similar amount means Golden Fox’s advantages are far fewer. I’m curious if it will excel as much on future tracks. Boosting might be much harder to abuse when harder turns become more prevalent.
@hobojoe285
Жыл бұрын
In single races. Golden fox might become problematic. However in GPs, Wild Gooses and Stringrays have a new goal. Kill foxes, get more boost. Hunt top foxes. The bully class machines will realize their goals. This is where falcon comes back into play being the slightly tankier fox.
@prophetrob
Жыл бұрын
Bigger bar doesn't help as much when it doesn't fill as fast
@aleckermit
Жыл бұрын
I do think Stingrays will do well on tracks like Sand Ocean.
@zspro123
Жыл бұрын
Stingrays can keep up with golden foxes on mute city, you just need to make use of getting in front of everyone and making use of the speed boost from people bumping into the back of you. I think stingrays raw speed/cornering can outclass GF's boost.
@barcster2003
Жыл бұрын
@@prophetrob1 destroy gets you full bar.
@nomorenames5568
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how anyone picked anything else than the car with the best acceleration and health recovery in a car fighting game you can die in.
@aleckermit
Жыл бұрын
To be fair though, the Golden Fox is terrible when stuck in the pack.
@sleeplessarcher
Жыл бұрын
I prefer fire stringray because of its amazing handling, the thing can take a lot of heavy turns without needing to slow down at all. But Golden Fox is also very fun
@Shibanu_
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what i have been doing all the time and i stay in the lead for the entire race, before crashing out because i eventually run into a red bomb car.
@mack4691
Жыл бұрын
You don't get to use the skyway when you're gfoxxing so we'll see how useful it is for the harder cups
@GELTONZ
Жыл бұрын
No items. Fox only.
@SuperCrazyfin
Жыл бұрын
I feel ashamed that this is the first time i found out what recovery does.
@beanburrito4405
Жыл бұрын
Golden Fox sweep! Definitely the strongest vehicle. Goose and Falcon are pretty OK as well, and the Stingray is probably the worst vehicle. Complete role reversal from the original
@dackattac
Жыл бұрын
the phrase "f-zero meta" hits real weird
@zerobyte802
Жыл бұрын
Golden Fox was always my favorite machine. Watching this run reminds me of what a good run on master difficulty looks like using Fire Stingray. It’s only good if you can get in front and maintain top speed perfectly, and its dash zone behavior seems nerfed. Will be interesting to see if it ever makes a comeback.
@WhyYouWahYoo
Жыл бұрын
I love the early days of a game. Try Harding is inevitable and I’m not complaining, I’m just glad I got my fill in before the game was solved, because I don’t have the time or care to try this hard.
@Shotgunner_K
11 ай бұрын
The energy recovery makes it a good choice for newbies and the acceleration is PHENOMENAL
@broden4838
Жыл бұрын
Never knew the true potential of Dr. Robert Stewart
@exp4397
Жыл бұрын
I chose golden fox as soon as I saw it’s stats. My highest rank right now is a 39th in Big Blue, but I am starting to get better
@Hunewm
Жыл бұрын
I'm not too concerned with this myself. I usually only see 1 Golden Fox do well like this, or no golden fox do well. I've also seen madmen use all their boost to catch up and ragdoll them on the first lap. Sort of risky though. Lastly, I think when people figure out how to use the lucky bumpers better it'll happen less often. I myself have knocked a few Golden Foxes from first to 20th with those. I've also been killed in first place by them.
@KingCrimson82
Жыл бұрын
If you believe me or not i took 6 hours of my time to proof that for some players i dont know under which circumstances handycaps are being created like being outrun by slower ships that dont boost on a straight line while sporting the stingrays max speed. This leads to the situation that you have to have luck enough to get kos or golden balls enough to at least land in the top 20. (thats the short version) i really dont want to appear whiny or anytrhing because i am allready super hard on myself and i rechecked it in multi and training. Might be that the test phase people on NO are treated as a second guest. Dono Is definetly regulated.
@m3tr0idgrl
Жыл бұрын
That grand poo bear guy plays like this
@0utrunner237
Жыл бұрын
The game's meta has just flipped on its head? The game didn't even _have_ a meta yet
@aleckermit
Жыл бұрын
I would say it consisted of: Go Wild Goose, race well, guarantee a top 10 placement by outsurviving opponents. The number of Wild Goose players grew pretty fast that way. Now there are consistent frontrunners like xLunaiire in the Golden Fox.
@kirkydaturkey
Жыл бұрын
Yah that was a cheesy ass line 😂😂
@xxSKAGhosTxx
10 ай бұрын
I wish the bumpers would appear so kindly out of my path like this.
@paulchapman8023
Жыл бұрын
The video shows what happens when one player uses Golden Fox extremely well, but I suspect that if there were two or more such players, using that many boosts would be much more dicey. If the hares all blow each other up, it might be a tortoise that ends up winning the race.
@ShamwowYeah
Жыл бұрын
one hare blows up the other and now has full boost though
@paulchapman8023
Жыл бұрын
@@ShamwowYeah fair point. I forgot that causing a KO replenishes boost power.
@Nintendude.
Жыл бұрын
The ship might get nerf in the future but I think that if there are more Foxes in the lead they can hinder each other leaving other racers to that a chance. One side is that I hope they don't nerf the Fox to soon since there might be a chance that other players might find other ways for the another vehicles to succeed.
@aleckermit
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I hope they wait until all three cups have their time to be played before considering any ship changes. The difficulty of the Queen and King cups might greatly diminish Fox's oppression.
@barcster2003
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure when players learn to destroy more they will catch the fox. It's because people aren't battling enough. Not to mention none of the players are battling the fox either
@miguelferrazcosta
Жыл бұрын
It's interesting seeing the Golden Fox on the lead, it's more closer to the original plot of F-Zero :D Oh well, it seems that I have to change from my Blue Falcon.
@jc___underscore___
Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen all four ships among the top spots when I’ve played
@barcster2003
Жыл бұрын
They all defintely can.
@Mhedez07
Жыл бұрын
so i found out something funny while playing i was playing on practice and i found that all the machines are able to pass my Golden Fox ghost with boost and the reson is all the other machines top speed or faster than it but the only reason why those machines can't catch up with golden foxes is because 1.the boost the golden fox can do and recovery it gets from pit stops 2.there's 99 people that are bumping in to you and slowing you down with the other 3 machines So pretty much the Golden Fox is winning because of boost because if it didn't have any boost or a bunch of people bumping into the other three machines and slowing them down it would have lost just because of its low speed
@iamspikefire
Жыл бұрын
After seeing this video, streaming for 5 hours and running into the guy, yeah hes CRACKED
@slashkensol
Жыл бұрын
just buff other 3 machine is ok I think boost speed or duration should be Golden Fox < Blue Falcon < Wild Goose < Fire Stingray
@markg5480
Жыл бұрын
The irony is that it's a lot easier to rank higher in much more difficult courses like Sand Ocean, as there are always a couple of sections that will really f*ck with people; so it ends up keeping everyone bundled together tighter. Mute City is essentially like a sprint.
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been seeing Golden Fox topping nearly every race / gp recently. Hopefully the meta changes so it’s more balanced or they do a slight nerf to its recovery to prevent it from just constantly boosting without much worry
@AeternamTenebras
Жыл бұрын
no patch or nerf needed, have you seen the ridiculous amount of energy fox loses when it gets hit?, also, as for the moment we still only have the knight tracks, when queen and king tracks arrive it will sadly be left behind
@VestedUTuber
Жыл бұрын
@@AeternamTenebras Getting hit isn't really something you have to worry about if you manage an early breakaway. The bumper patterns are predefined, not random.
@JoLiKMC
Жыл бұрын
What I find the most hilarious about this is that in the original game, the Golden Fox was physically incapable of beating Master Difficulty due to its low top speed. The CPUs would always rubbed-band and overtake it. Guess you don't have to worry about that when there _aren't_ any CPU racers!
@douglasbrzeski668
Жыл бұрын
I use the goose. I hang towards the back or the middle on the first lap on purpose. Get a bunch of gold orbs and rack up a kill or two. Then I use the sky way and save all of my boosts for the last 2 laps. I've been pretty consistent.
@emerald3616
Жыл бұрын
What the hell don't tell the people about the truth of the golden fox, it's the only chance I've had at winning a grand prix!
@angelthingjenny
Жыл бұрын
Kinda amused by seeing this become a kind of meta, if only because this was my strategy literally from day one.
@lykzar
Жыл бұрын
same lol
@elijahs.8238
Жыл бұрын
Fr, got my first win with the Fox in Mute City the other day lol
@WhiplashPuppet
Жыл бұрын
Let's be real here. If Nintendo thinks the Golden Fox is OP, they'll nerf it in some way. It is still version 1.0 afterall. It's either that or the meta devolves into races consisting mostly of Golden Fox, which doesn't sound as fun to me.
@servantofcygnus
Жыл бұрын
"You've landed some first place finishes..." nope
@UberManlyPirate
Жыл бұрын
I've been playing the golden fox since the game is out. If you're stuck in the pack you get bounced everywhere because of it's lack of weight. All I see is Wild Goose in lobbies now
@EnvyDSin
Жыл бұрын
I saw a couple of Wild Goose triple podiums, so, yeah.
@dave9515
Жыл бұрын
You will always get stuck in the pack lol. There is no frontrunning without skyline now and that makes stingray the only viable frontrunner. Goose has risen again because people started playing more aggressively which is how the game is meant to be played. Get a wise idea as GF and you have a pack of Gooses and stignrays who might get a skyline and get ahead or one measly goose using a majority of their boost power to knock you back in line. if you are playing BF or GF you don't exist and are not a threat to anyone. The luck side with the skyway and lucky bumpers means top speed is the most important speed stat outside of durability and handling especially when there will be constant brawls now. Boost reliant vehicles have gotten screwed over by Goose. I used to think BF was pretty good then people got good and its clear how bad boost reliant vehicles are in this game now.
@petermuller161
Жыл бұрын
It was always the ‘expert’ ship in the original. Acceleration has its merits.
@robinfox4440
11 ай бұрын
Looking back at this video a month later, I have noticed a few Golden Foxes sprinkled among the top 20, but the Wild Goose and Fire Stingray are more popular than ever. It's been "decided" more or less that the Blue Falcon is the worst ship in the game and only beginners use it, with the odd veteran coming in first here and there as a way to challenge themselves.
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