well done on the call. you sound to have a solid composure. i’ll give the channel a follow.
@sunchung4957
Жыл бұрын
He had 66 or 4 6 suited
@martinst-pierre6620
Жыл бұрын
I won’t be calling the clock on you, it’s a big spot.
@samsaraa2001
Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that you guys are only 100 bbs deep. Did the game just start? Seems like a pro like this guy and yourself would be buying in deeper. Did he just get felted? Was he potentially steaming? Feels like a fold was the right call.
@ashypharaoh8407
Жыл бұрын
FYI, Commerce is where Bart cut his teeth in poker
@MooseyFate
Жыл бұрын
Your scouts are right. The Euros ruined the 2/5 scene in Dallas, namely at TCH. That they're nitty as fuck is bad enough, but the rampant, shameless bumhunting is worse.
@user-jt2bf6ym1o
Жыл бұрын
Flop check back is at least in equilibrium very much fine (about 50% of the time), as is calling turn and folding river. But the thing is, for this fold to be correct, hero has to check some even stronger hands on the flop (AA for example gets checked back a decent amount in equilibrium). If hero does not check back those hands, KTo has to defend more as it moves higher up in his range. Villain could definitely exploit check backs not being protected (which often is the case) and fold out everything with these barrels. You can check out how actions change by nodelocking. Balance is a tricky thing, especially live without a RNG to force your hand.
@andymoiser4611
Жыл бұрын
5x is so big you could just call some AA and all TT, prob some 66 and 4x..just call turn and be good...if he potted it or used like 150% its prob a tougher decision, id prob just let him have it
@Stockhandle123
Жыл бұрын
@@andymoiser4611 I go even further the next time I see check over bet over bet be a bluff will be the first time. I’m calling 4x + and folding the rest. I wouldn’t worry about being bluffed here because this line isn’t bluffed. Now if i see the villain do this often enough he that it’s possible he is working bluffs in ill revaluate but that’s just never been a thing in my experience.
@3betmonkey
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see a drop of the clickbait titles and a return to straightforward description of what we can expect to see in the video. Keep pumping out the quality content Bart.
@mrhumble2937
Жыл бұрын
Who cares, you know what it is. Its a hand. Click bait is to get new viewers.
@willnotelovitz6589
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see a title that's not as click bait- I clicked this one specifically because of the better title lol
@hardflip8
Жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the result but this feels like thick value to me. 10-20 is way above my level but it just seems like villain expects people to call way more often than they should
@bobsburgers8885
Жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting hand. Curious if Bart knew the details of the hand beforehand, or if he just knew from experience that once the flop was checked back a storm was coming. I'm probably calling but I'm not saying that's correct.
@timmyp34
Жыл бұрын
I would have to fold. I don't have the nerve. Not with just a pair.
@timmyp34
Жыл бұрын
@Phat Pat Fitness I am pretty sure it would be exploitable against me, any huge river jam if I don't have a nut flush or boat, and I fold like superman on laundry day. Which is why I rarely play, and never for several hours where my tendencies become clear.
@elindauer
Жыл бұрын
I suspect you're getting hugely exploited here. After TT, and I suppose 64s, KT is probably our best call. And how many combos of misses do we have for a hijack open?! AK AQ AJ AT A9?! A8?! KQ KJ KT K9s... QJ QT Q9s... JT T9?! then a bunch of suited connectors as well... I mean the list goes on and on of combos that won't be willing to get it all in. We unblock A5 and A2 too so arguably even better than AT to hold. I don't think the Tc matters personally, because Tx cc makes little sense for this size. 5x pot doesn't really make sense for even trip 4s, because many players are going to fold everything but trapped monsters which beat trips. Perhaps the solver does it to hammer overpairs, but in real world poker those just get folded a lot. Maybe A4 does this hoping to get called by a worse 4. But generally the sizing makes little sense for value as there is no nut advantage here. Yes, it takes a special kind of player to actually make this exploit and consistently jam 2k chasing $110 pot on the turn while really picking their spots. But from this player description it sounds like this is exactly the opponent that may be doing it, and I'd guess these kinds of exploits are why this guy is making money in a $10/$20 game. Maybe I fold too, it's hard to put so much money in with one pair. But then that's exactly the point isn't it. The strategy of attacking capped ranges to crush those nitty players in the $2 / $5 game seems like just the move that vaults a tough player up to this level. Next level you need to actually structure the overbets instead of firing whole range!
@AT-bw4cm
Жыл бұрын
Hugely exploited is a bit of an overreach. After 25 hours he's seen this massive overbet once. You make a good point though. Villain would need hero to fold at least 82% of the time to make this profitable which is probably the case if villain makes this play very sparingly.
@kineahora8736
Жыл бұрын
Hi live king. I like your vlogs. Im gonna cbet this situation to 70% pot. Most of your value hands are vulnerable on a T high flop. And the 43 is pretty decent for BB, so large size makes most sense… There aren’t too many runouts that are gonna make you happy, but I think 6-4 certainly isn’t a favorite. 5x pot. Ouch. Obviously your best pure bluff -catchers are gonna be 55, 65s, and A5s, preferably sans clubs. Can’t say this is one of them. Uggh. I fold. I think with 5x pot bets you don’t have to call very often.
@LiveKingPoker
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback
@iphonelover4610
Жыл бұрын
Seems unnessecary to bluff catch this hand when hero still has 4 x and pocket 66
@Pops1020
Жыл бұрын
You said u would bet the flop if you had JJ well K 10 is almost the same on that flop so why did u check the flop?
@Kd4c
Жыл бұрын
About a month ago I played with a guy that overbet all bets and raises. It was a 13 with a $6 straddle there was one limper I raised to 25 there was a call he re-raised the 225. And that hand he had AA. But in the other hands he would always overbet when he had the range advantage.😮 If somebody three bet pre-flop, the board comes out 567 he would overbet the pot 2-3x forcing the pre-flop raiser who would most likely have a premium hand to either fold or call an overbet and then be faced with an even bigger over bet on the turn. The average stack at the table was about 5 to 600, he had 3,500 because he could take all the pots where the premium hands were not the board / range favorite.
@adr58
Жыл бұрын
I had a guy do something similar, he would raise many hands and bet big often, he got stacked a couple times and instanly rebought like it was nothing, eventually both he and me had big stacks at the table about 1200 each on a 1-2 table. He opens the button, I 3-bet with QQ from SB, flop comes ten-high with 2 clubs, I check to see what he"s gonna do since he's aggro, he bets 400 into 120. I hated folding but even if he had the nut flush draw I had 60% equity and was dead against KK, AA or TT. I folded and he showed me A7 of clubs, rich fucker lol
@Otaldobeny
Жыл бұрын
This hand is so weird, but i guess if you check back flop it kind of plays itself, i dont think i can call this river bet ever with just a pair
@Otaldobeny
Жыл бұрын
Do we really have better hands than this though? We could just be getting omega exploited... i guess the answer is dont check back flop in this spot very often if ever, specially against good capable players
@noThankyou-g5c
Жыл бұрын
I had a hand recently with aces in 5NL. I 3bet hj open 3x (for 6bb. I know thats small but ppl overfold 3bets and i foolishly wanted to see a flop) in the button. flop came 54Jtt i cbet 50% call. turn comes T(no flush draw or bdfd) i cbet 70% pot. villain than shoves 5x pot. this is 5nl and villain did this same move at least 3 other times in the 20 minutes id been playing. I felt like he had to be overplaying or was full of it so I called but he just binked JT. I ended up cracking aces with my JT vs an all-in shove on the turn later that night so it worked out but I’m not really sure what the adjustment is for weird huge overbets in soft games. idk if that was an obvious fold or a winning call that was unlucky. Anybody have any advice?
@georgewbushcenterforintell147
Жыл бұрын
I don't play the big poker games but all the casinos i go to the high stakes action is never going on as much as before COVID. Gardens casino closed its high stakes area commerce changed it up . Even in Vegas the games dont look as deep . Overall i think that the economy is starting to affect the poker world.
@nathantorian3005
Жыл бұрын
Great hand, love a good one that gets Bart thinking or put into funny spots
@craigerc713
Жыл бұрын
Ya...livekingpoker is definitely one of the better poker vlogers out there with his content and poker skills.
@vidteacher
Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy Yale’s call ins and long time fan of the LiveKingPoker vlog…his commentary on the livestreams are always on point!
@justmusic2353
Жыл бұрын
I would rather bluff catch here with a hand like red 55 blocking a lot of the straights and trips that he could have 75s 52s 45s. Specially the red 55 since the only 54s combos left are diamonds and hearts.
@mrhumble2937
Жыл бұрын
Not at end but he has it. Just trying to get max value, makes no sense to bluff and risk all that bluffing.
@kemillionaire2
Жыл бұрын
Easy fold. Find a better spot to get paid.
@moneymikz
Жыл бұрын
Why is everyone saying fold? He has a ton of queen 10 Jack 10 99 and his range, he doesn’t have A10, JJ or better maybe a small set but this is not a fold to me
@chelseafanfromasia
6 ай бұрын
I think this is a fold. hero getting terrible odds to call, and is k10 really the best 10 or 15% hand that hero could have at this spot? Hero could have overpairs that check to induce/pot control, maybe trip 4s like 45s, boat like 46s or pocket 6s, or even slow playing top set like 10s.
@bmoresavage5037
6 ай бұрын
Wasted time of even listing to this one
@hansari8697
10 ай бұрын
KT>AA here imo unless you think bb 3bets TT pure from the bb. Tc is irrelevant bc he is never bluffing w top pair.
@WeissAdvice
Жыл бұрын
gotta have about fifty fifty to call, why not just try to range divide? too unpredictable how much air is in villains range?
@EllieBanks333
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if villain would have gone off if hero had bet flop. Who knows right?
@IaanFamily
Жыл бұрын
A2 56 10x this is a sure CALL...hero has 2pair K kicker. Guy wouldn't go all in 5x pot if he had worthy value....CALL all day long!
@honingbiet
Жыл бұрын
This seems like a very easy fold. Villain is not overbetting 2-2.5 times but 5x pot. We have enough better hands we end up with we can call (66, 45ss, A4, 64ss, maybe even TT/33/44 if we think villain just unloads in these spots, which caller indicates to have seen before). I'm not sure we call A4 here 100% even.
@KingKoin88
Жыл бұрын
He missed a semi bluffing back door draw. Just call man.
@rez2576
Жыл бұрын
If opponent has show massive over bets wtih bluffs this hand is a must call. Hero's hand is underlapped and it seems like he wants hero to fold by overbetting turn when hero looks weak. If this is a villain I dont have much info on I'm folding because most players aren't balanced at all with oversets
@trias418
Жыл бұрын
These overbets are too frequently a turned twopair/set, rivered full house. I'd rather have A6 to call here than a 10 crazy enough. (Assuming villain doesnt call with 10 4, 10 3, or 10 6 pre)
@chevelle1
Жыл бұрын
You have a well disguised top pair with K kicker, on a dry board. Call. I think this is a good example of overthinking the game, giving your opponent way too much credit. Of course, we weren’t in that seat and there’s a lot of nuances to a live poker hand that can’t be described. Also, the higher stakes doesn’t always mean better players. Watch some of the live streams of high stakes and alot of those players are making horrible plays, alot.
@pot_kivach160
Жыл бұрын
4:27 _i'd put him in a better caliber of a traveling professional_
@snowboardinglegend
Жыл бұрын
Hero says he was planning to call 2x overbet on the river but now the price is wildly different, but its actually not.. you need 40% equity to call 2x overbet on river... if he bets 4x on river you still only need 45% equity....
@joshmullins4849
Жыл бұрын
I think fold is just right here. I’m not totally sure that exclusively just 66, TT, 4x isn’t enough of a call range vs this size. Maybe we can have 57s also at some frequency? I’d guess in theory that maybe we have to mix call with this hand occasionally to have enough defends but I’d bet pretty heavily that the solver calls this less than 50%. Maybe like 20-25 seems more likely.
@BaadMotorFinger
Жыл бұрын
I would agree with your analysis. Maybe save the 10x calls for combos without a club or an ace for unblocking bluffs
@Otaldobeny
Жыл бұрын
This is a legit question why would the solver call anything close to 50% here? Isnt it more like 10% or smth? Since its such a huge overbet
@joshmullins4849
Жыл бұрын
@@Otaldobeny If it’s truly a 5x over bet our MDF is 16.7%. But that’s for our whole range. I was talking about with this specific hand. We’d need to rng and call it some percentage. This is clearly a better calling hand than a lot of hands we might have in our range but also worse than our nutted hands. I was just guessing that we’d need to call this 20-25% of time to get our full range close to the 16.7. Haven’t actually run it to be clear.
@davidculhane4388
Жыл бұрын
I'm only half way through the video and I am leaning towards a snap-fold. I just do not think we are good here anywhere close to 50% of the time even against a wild LAG player. I see the villan holding 54 or better too often. There are cheaper spots to call down in hold em.
@johns783
Жыл бұрын
I've got a strong feeling he had 34hh or something and was hoping to get a hero call, assuming it's a value bet. if he'd done that before he may have hoped for a 10 w bad kicker/overpair or if lucky 75 to call him down.
@Chicoman83
Жыл бұрын
Great hand. I'm leaning fold. Not saying as villain I'd over bet the turn with a set of 3s but definitely checking the flop but I may lead turn to avoid it checking through again with the backdoor draw coming in. I'll gladly jam river when I know he's on the hook calling a turn over bet...
@DescartesRenegade
Жыл бұрын
If the villains sizing throughout the session was more reasonable and typical, then go back to the turn. The overbet on the turn looks like a large draw as opposed to a protection bet with a 4. It looked more like a Q5cc/K5cc type of bet. I'd have tank-called due to the turn bet.
@bhedger3021
Жыл бұрын
hero can have 66/A4 here, so don't have to call down too much wider vs this size. overpairs and Tx are pretty much the same here anyway (maybe blocking T4s is slightly more helpful where possible, I'd probably call down with the Td in this hand and fold all other Tx), the hands that would make the most sense to bluff are K5/Q5/J5s with no clubs and is repping boats and straights probably otherwise
@Laf-Adventures
Жыл бұрын
Interesting hand sure, but I don’t like this kind of video where we’re left wondering what the correct move was on the river. Kind of feels like a waste of time to listen to this whole call when he should have just taken it down on the flop or been check raised by 34h and been over.
@joevince6066
Ай бұрын
Solver likes unblocking the ace with our king
@danjones7561
Жыл бұрын
I would say, either a flopped set turning into a full, or a pocket JJ, or 77 (missed straight on the river).
@martindim7182
Жыл бұрын
12:11 u gotta defend with 15-20 percent of hands, can someone explain the math that Bart is talking about? Thx
@kirasbhsurf
Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same spot couple of days ago ( different stakes but same ratio of betting size and more or less the same board, I ended up calling because of the profile of the player, he showed A5c ( mine was different suit but same idea )
@Dylan-vm4gl
Жыл бұрын
I’d like to have 55 to call then 65. TX just blocks a few combos of 4s. A 5 blocks 54o and maybe even 75o (certainly suited)
@davidculhane4388
Жыл бұрын
Love the Poland springs water bottle! I'm from Mass as well, but reside in NH now.
@justme-ti1rh
Жыл бұрын
I never heard of you until today. The most important question is how much to you have to reload with.
@quinn9240
Жыл бұрын
flop is a mix. Wtf is he talking about?
@Jimmy_James79
Жыл бұрын
Betting the flop in that position will give you a little more info based off the big blinds decision....rather than a check. Most of the time when I slow play I seem to get less value in the long run.
@rppoker8541
Жыл бұрын
If he really wants to know it was 3/5 clubs. I was trying to get any 10 to fold
@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1
Жыл бұрын
Who are you?
@rppoker8541
Жыл бұрын
@@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1 the other man in the hand
@rppoker8541
Жыл бұрын
@@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1 you didn’t understand?
@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1
Жыл бұрын
I don't believe you on the basis of probability
@rppoker8541
Жыл бұрын
@@GokuTheSuperSaiyan1 while I will tell you that I really don’t care what you think that’s what it was
@sethno1ram1
Жыл бұрын
I'm saying he's got pocket 4s
@justinp2149
Жыл бұрын
My preflop charts tell me that KTo is a FOLD from the Hijack. And what to make of these $50 opening raises I see all the time in 10/20, surely they can't be optimal?
@martinst-pierre6620
Жыл бұрын
KTo is a pure open from the HJ for 2.25x at 100bb and 200bb in raked two blinds games according to Petrangelo’s solved solutions. It’s a heavy mix from the LJ. If you were to open 3x or 4x then KTo would likely become a fold if everyone behind you played optimally. That’s what the theory suggests, adjust as you see fit. I personally open KTo at 100% from the HJ in my loose 1/3 games and it performs well.
@gregoryfoster8179
Жыл бұрын
If you can't beat what the opp is repping, is always better to let it go.
@danielmanahan692
Жыл бұрын
They moved the VIP games to the Cal side recently
@aaronli1240
Жыл бұрын
I think the caller is a more advanced player than Bart
@VSkye-oi6nx
Жыл бұрын
Caller is terrible.
@stuartmacguire4914
Жыл бұрын
If he was bluffing, what hands did he think he could fold out for $1950 that he couldn't fold out for $950?
@DeluviumOfficial
Жыл бұрын
I think the hero would have called for $950 at a much higher frequency
@elindauer
Жыл бұрын
Overpairs.
@rppoker4768
Жыл бұрын
Pay for training 😂
@Mauricio-kf8qx
Жыл бұрын
He had 10 6 I think and wanted the max from a 10
@MrStevie57
Жыл бұрын
Obviously bluffing with 2 clubs.
@sr4087
Жыл бұрын
#RoadTo100
@daithi1966
Жыл бұрын
Good hand. I probably would have folded too.
@GWrench9
Жыл бұрын
10 of cwubs 😂
@aaronbaertsch9269
Жыл бұрын
9 handed ✋️ 😢
@herts9999
Жыл бұрын
Feels like 33
@pot_kivach160
Жыл бұрын
7:20 why calling here? What's the purpose of this turn call?
@VSkye-oi6nx
Жыл бұрын
Caller/Hero is awful. There is no purpose.
@bosgamingleague7392
Жыл бұрын
Snap call
@anilyzerr
5 ай бұрын
good
@leoyuan3f
Жыл бұрын
LOL Bart's expression at 8:25 :D
@ryurazu
Жыл бұрын
hahah is the villain Emmanuel?
@ryurazu
Жыл бұрын
Australian aren't Austrian pro, there is a difference.
@sQuaTsiFieD
Жыл бұрын
Loved the podcast with Vertucci you had Bart
@jack42011
Жыл бұрын
as played, I am calling
@actuallynotsteve
Жыл бұрын
Bad player with 55 maybe?
@justinsane7128
Жыл бұрын
66 fold
@jaketaylor3129
Жыл бұрын
66?
@Jonah_Lopas
Жыл бұрын
Super weird spot but I would slightly lean fold. Don't think villian is turning 63s, 65s, or 55 into a bluff bc those have a little showdown. Only natural bluffs seem to be A5 and 78s? For value villain should have 2 combos 64s, 3 combos 33, 3 combos 66, 4 combos 57s, 1 combo 44, maybe T4s? Sucks to fold here but we'd rather call with A6s or something blocking value. KT does seem slightly better than overpairs but you have to be right here like 45% of the time which we probably aren't.
@alextjock6655
Жыл бұрын
Not played this high stakes but seems that hero calling turn kinda tells villain he has min top pair? This seems like easy fold. I got the feeling the hero never bet flop cos he expects c/r. How big does yer poker bank have to be to call off 1800 here?
@johnmar6376
Жыл бұрын
I would've never slow-played the flop.1) I want to build the pot 2) I want to find out more about his hand
@youtubelife9248
6 ай бұрын
Waste of time. These guys calling in with no reveal and no call
@ProfessionalFixologist
Жыл бұрын
I think it's likely the Villain has 64 suited or pocket 66s. Both make sense for the Villain calling pre-flop, checking flop, suddenly betting big on the turn and jamming river.
@fireinfireout
Жыл бұрын
He didn't raise the turn, he bet.
@mrhumble2937
Жыл бұрын
Agree he def had it. No reason to jam if not.
@robertluna3952
Жыл бұрын
totally agree with pro fix, villan has pocket sixes and putting hero on ace ten clubs
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