My favorite darth vader facts is that he gives out chunks of Alderaan as gifts during negotiations with planets
@im3phirebird81
11 ай бұрын
I don't even wanna hear from the poor sods who had to scour the galaxy to find pieces of a planet that exploded.
@twrampage
11 ай бұрын
@@im3phirebird81 They'd all be in the same area, and a single asteroid could last Vader years.
@im3phirebird81
11 ай бұрын
@@twrampage Okay so if a planet explodes in a sheer endless vacuum all parts stay in one place because they stop their motion by that feeling of connectedness. Got it. Agreed on the second part though.
@twrampage
11 ай бұрын
@@im3phirebird81 Things such as other planets in the system, and Alderaan's star itself, each have their own gravity fields, and that's assuming nothing of Alderaan hits any of those other planets.
@im3phirebird81
11 ай бұрын
@@twrampage Planet: Has gravity field Gravity field: Gets destroyed Planet chunks: I'm gonna stay right here Space: Is vast, WAY more room in between planets than planets themselves and they are so far apart that then angles at which debris can escape just get way bigger. Planet chunks: I'm gonna aim for them specifically You're not making any sense there my dude, I'm sorry 👀
@ToddCorley65
11 ай бұрын
I would 100% watch a 3 hour movie of Darth Vader just going about his normal business being a total dick to every one around him
@CBright7831
11 ай бұрын
Darth Vader actually liked Captain/Admiral Piett. He respected the fact that Piett actually worked his way up through rankings of the Empire instead of using influence to get a position. That might be why he listened to Piett over Ozzel when it came to the hunch of finding the Rebels hidden base and why he didn't force choke him later after the Falcon got away in TESB. Still, the thought of a guy like Vader standing there and thinking, "I like that guy. He's a hard worker and a good hand." is pretty hilarious and dare I say, a bit wholesome.
@soma_5031
11 ай бұрын
Darth Traya used the force to wield multiple lightsabers at once, in case no one brought it up before
@Koenigdragoon
11 ай бұрын
This 🔝. Also known as Kreia, she used a technique known as Tràkata which allowed her to wield at least three lightsabers in combat, holding each of them aloft with the Force and having them fight with a will of their own. She is not canon to the Disney universe however, she's a Legends character.
@eltoppdog
11 ай бұрын
Pretty sick art of her, too
@LovecraftsFear
11 ай бұрын
So did Yaddle
@2K8Si
11 ай бұрын
My favorite use of creative force power was the pilot episode for the Genndy Tartakovsky's clone wars (Yeah, the guy that made Samurai Jack)... The scene where Mace Windu took down an army of droids by pulling the screws out of them, crushing, and generally beating the shit out of them with his bare hands... And then he took down the whole ship that they arrived in... That shit was EPIC.
@Homie_1111
11 ай бұрын
Never watched that series but I do remember that scene. Mace Windu lives I don't care what they say.
@TheBrotherGrim
11 ай бұрын
I love that series, and that episode is incredible. Watching Mace just totally dismantle those bots with force Kung fu after he loses his Saber will never get old.
@AugustoEL
11 ай бұрын
Yeah well but anything touched but Genndy is gold. That man is a master at writing stories with little spoken but lot said. And he knows how to make a good action scene.
@eltoppdog
11 ай бұрын
The new Vader comics are actually pretty good. Like when he crashed a banquet and someone told him to join the dancing, so he accepted and started throwing people into walls.
@alphaslayer9309
11 ай бұрын
Darth Vader giving his enemies testicular torsion
@jojotheswede8444
11 ай бұрын
Gaaah! Jesus H Christ, that would be effective.
@Jedi_Spartan
11 ай бұрын
That presumably comes from the fact that he spent over 2 decades with boots that wouldn't fit...
@Entropic_Meat_Machine
11 ай бұрын
Legends explanation for Vaders suit was honestly one of the dumbest but most hilarious pieces of lore, kinda glad they inverted in for new canon.
@khimeradabz137
11 ай бұрын
@@Entropic_Meat_Machinewas the suit even practical for Vader?
@Entropic_Meat_Machine
11 ай бұрын
@@khimeradabz137 Old canon it was an absolute piece of shit intentionally designed that way by Palpatine. New canon Vader thinks "its adequate" when he first gets it then upgrades it himself after that point. Old canon lore was apparently only really used as a way to explain why the original trilogies lightsaber duels were so janky compared to the prequels.
@draketurtle4169
11 ай бұрын
@@Entropic_Meat_Machineahh yes the limited arm movement are because palpatine throughy it’d be funny and pissing off vader would just make him better.
@Shisouhyou
11 ай бұрын
That wouldn't fit his already prosthetic feet
@inncubus666
11 ай бұрын
Gran Moff Tarkin: "Vader release him!" Vader, slight head nod: "As you wish." that guy's got balls not even Vader could lift.
@baileywatts1304
11 ай бұрын
Doesn't even address him as "Lord Vader" the way all the other guys do.
@albertfronton3634
11 ай бұрын
While I'm not 100% sure this is canon or EU, I think that Tarkin was asigned as the gorvernor of the Death Star, and since Vader had failled some prior mission, the Emperator punishment was having Vader being under Tarkin, at least inside the station.
@Mortimer992
11 ай бұрын
Tarkin and Vader served together in the Clone Wars and had mutual respect for each other.
@spaceengineeringempire4086
11 ай бұрын
Imagine being a imperial technician and you see earth Vader just repairing the data transmitter of the ship.
@ameliakyle7054
11 ай бұрын
I love in the comics there is one where Palpatine and two of his personal guards (dudes in the red suits) were on some planet and Palpatine was hunting some dangerous creature for fun, said dangerous creature is incredibly deadly to even Jedi or Sith alike and he was easily just making it look like he was kicking a small animal about thats how easy he was having it and laughing like a madman the whole time while his guards are like: "the fuck does this man need us to protect him for?"
@tinusss6057
11 ай бұрын
What comic is that would love to read it
@Jonglohn
11 ай бұрын
I can’t remember exactly, might be another, but wasn’t that creature also fucking massive, like kaiju sized?
@7evenseas975
11 ай бұрын
"your both my guards cause I want people to be around me, you look cool, and when I don't feel like it."
@j-bob_oreo
11 ай бұрын
@@7evenseas975you're
@ameliakyle7054
11 ай бұрын
@@tinusss6057I been trying to find it too but unfortunately with that one scene being the only thing i remember from it, it's hard to google anything about it to track it down, but i'll let you know if i remember the title. I just remember stuff like him spinning around like a fucking madman, cackling and enjoying it and his guards questioning how that man even needs protection
@Swift96
11 ай бұрын
I would love to see a sitcom about a group of stormtroopers, going through their everyday routine. Kinda like a Star Wars equivalent of Star Trek: Lower Decks.
@baileywatts1304
11 ай бұрын
You ever seen the classic Troops? It's good
@jacksghost4471
11 ай бұрын
There's just something so funny about the idea of Vader just making a Jedi completely and utterly void their entire bowls all at once that makes the movies seem so much more entertaining to me now
@j-bob_oreo
11 ай бұрын
bowels
@dolofonosesostrefis
11 ай бұрын
Now all I can think is imagine he does it to one or two people in specific but never kills them so at some point they have a Pavlovian response to when they see Darth Vader they shit themselves.
@jacksghost4471
11 ай бұрын
@@dolofonosesostrefis I can see a world where Vader just goes around using nothing but the force to make people just utterly shit themselves and leaves the entire army alive then just shows up randomly one day for literal shits and giggles seeing everyone just drop a steaming load out from just seeing him. Vader has the ultimate ability to be a troll but we sadly never see him use it in cannon that I personally have seen or know of
@derekblack2000
11 ай бұрын
All i can think of now is spaceballs
@coatman9294
11 ай бұрын
The Traiter Stormtrooper I like to think that he use to know Finn, his bestfriend or something, and feels betrayed and hurt by him joining the rebels. hence him shouting "Traitor"
@MR.LMR1996
11 ай бұрын
The mental image of Darth Vader using the Force to make Imperial Officers piss themselves NEEDS to be a Robot Chicken Sketch.
@judyfps5059
11 ай бұрын
the only problem I have with your content is the fact that there simply isn't enough of it to binge while i do college work.
@bannana422
11 ай бұрын
He actually sabotaged a podrace once, same planet even, he was pissed they forgot about the last human to WIN. So he used to force to make the engines fail, or something. It was ironically his son Luke in that podrace, and he never found out. 😂
@PvtPartzz
11 ай бұрын
This episode made me realize how much I want a crossover video with that channel that does the deepfakes where the characters watch their movies/tv series. Like I want to see the deepfake anakin’s face lighting up when he learns of all the things he could have done to people and didnt.
@jacobbastin802
11 ай бұрын
If Karl hasn't played KotOR 1 & 2, especially the sequel since... (Spoilers!) It has Kreia/Darth Traya who wields 2 lightsabers using only her connection to the force, as well as actually wielding another lightsaber in her only hand, then someone needs to get Karl a copy of both games so he can experience them.
@rhinobeetle582
11 ай бұрын
Vader: You've ever had testicular torsion before? Jedi: Uh...no, I ha- Vader: Would you like to?! *(twists Jedi's balls)* Jedi: *(screams of utter pain)*
@liamfarranree4433
11 ай бұрын
In the first episode of Ashoka the title character uses the force to remotely controls twin lightsabers to easily cut multiple deep perfect circles in solid rock at a distance which makes me wonder why any Jedi would endanger their life by holding their lightsabers in their hands and insist on fighting enemys upclose and personal face to face and toe to toe.
@anonomit8229
11 ай бұрын
They do it because if they meet someone with better force control, that person could use the force to control the lightsabers. They could even meet someone like Kylo Ren, who could just stop the sabers from moving
@42Mrgreenman
11 ай бұрын
3:25 That's actually the style Kreia uses in Knights of the Old Republic 2...she telekenetically spins three lightsabers around herself...
@EternalWarHawk
11 ай бұрын
Honestly Galen Marik aka Starkiller has quite literally dragged a imperial class star destroyer out of orbit
@l3v1ckUK
11 ай бұрын
Using the force to squeeze balls....? Spaceballs the movie
@MegaDrainProductions
11 ай бұрын
Maul also does a similar thing in one of the canon comics where he uses the force to crush the leader of a village's heart and then told everyone that he got a heart attack.
@PetStick
11 ай бұрын
Darth Traya/Kreia from KotOR2, she does fight by hovering three sabers around her
@khimeradabz137
11 ай бұрын
Nice reference mayn 💯
@crimzinchainz6562
11 ай бұрын
How does the force work?? Like if someones using the force to spin their lightsaber around themselves, can someone else overpower his use of the force and make his lightsaber cut himself??? Maybe everyones just too paranoid to try for that reason haha
@blazypoo1723
11 ай бұрын
I don't think it's ever really fully explained, and I may be wrong so don't quote me on this, but I am pretty sure strong Jedi and Sith are just kinda resistant to some force attacks. Obviously, not immune, you can't just block a force push, but a weak Jedi trying to push a strong Sith is barely going to even move them. So in theory, I think what you said could happen, but most battles we see in Star Wars the 2 opponents are usually not THAT far apart in strength so it just doesn't happen because it's a risky move.
@Koenigdragoon
11 ай бұрын
Darth Traya, also known as Kreia. She used a lightsaber technique known as Tràkata, which allowed her to wield at least three lightsabers in combat, holding each of them aloft with the Force and having them fight with a will of their own. However, she is still technically listed as a "Legends" character, so not canon in current Disney lore.
@eltoppdog
11 ай бұрын
They can make a sort of Bubble around them that protects them from other force weilders influence. It requires concentration and reflects the users power in the force, so it can be overcome. And yeah, someone can telekenetically grab or push something someone else is telekenetically manipulating. Light sabers have exploded from two force weilders both trying to force pull it.
@eltoppdog
11 ай бұрын
Using the force to manipulate your opponents light saber is a thing, but it's risky and hard. Very uncommon. It takes concentration and endurance to use the force, and lightsaber dueling is more like a subconscious reflex, you clear your mind and allow the force to guide you. So taking a moment to think, use a force power, and not lose the flow of combat or tire yourself is more advanced level stuff. Vader extensively trained to effectively mix force techniques into his dueling, like throwing objects without motioning, and choking or crushing enemies while dueling others at the same time.
@crimzinchainz6562
11 ай бұрын
@@eltoppdog ha nice one dude, those were exactly the type of answers l was looking for😁
@vinnylembo7355
11 ай бұрын
3:30 into the video; Im thinking to myself “Wait till he hears about Darth Traya’
@animetrashamvs
11 ай бұрын
Forreal~ 3 at once just orbiting 👏
@KindaNameless
11 ай бұрын
6:20 i watched some video on lore accurate Darth Vader fighting, apparently he does fly for short moments in combat to strike at unusual angles and evade blows
@blazypoo1723
11 ай бұрын
I believe in StarWars legends there was someone who used the force to have their lightsaber float.
@PegasusPablo
11 ай бұрын
David Prowse coached Christopher Reeve into billing up for Superman. In Superman 2 we see Kal-El deflecting light beams with his bare hand.
@mindlessmeat4055
11 ай бұрын
Don't forget, Darth Vader also used the force to bring himself a cup of coffee.
@xiax4453
11 ай бұрын
i always thought it would be cool if a sith lord used their light saber like yondus arrow in guardians of the galaxy
@ryanewald9740
8 ай бұрын
This is what I want in a darth vader movie. I want a scene where he and a storm trooper are alone in an elevator and the storm trooper starts to ask him some questions like: How much of your body is left? What and how do you eat? If you eat, then how do you use the bathroom? And in the next scene you see the elevator doors open and darth vader walks out and you just see a puddle of blood.
@Reaper_ginger
10 ай бұрын
The Great Imperial Bake-off judged by Darth Vader. That is what I want to see
@joshuawargo6446
11 ай бұрын
I believe there actually was a female sith whose fighting style was using her force powers to control THREE LIGHTSABERS around her without holding them almost EXACTLY like karl was saying...and she is noted as one of the DEADLIST force users of all time
@julianmcmillan2867
11 ай бұрын
Darth Kreia. She is also noted as being quite a unique Sith; she wanted to destroy the Force.
@joshuawargo6446
11 ай бұрын
@@julianmcmillan2867 and this is why Disney was dumb destroying all that lore. That's badass
@HaakonTheRayquaza
11 ай бұрын
I'm imagining that in his' parttime Darth Vader would in private Boogey it out to a Mos Eisley Cantina remix
@ArtemisKitty
11 ай бұрын
C3PO! That could be an absolutely hilarious film, watching the fussy, prim and proper robot bumbling socially through his adventures. With R2 of course, but... Definitely would love to see a Threepio comedy.
@flightlesslord2688
11 ай бұрын
Anakin lost everything he was willing to give a shit about; and thus to distance himself from his past, Vader made sure he made all of those shits back by not giving any form of shit in future.
@elreynoe15
11 ай бұрын
To be fair, Luke had reinstated the Jedi order for a bit so lightsabers may not have been as rare or unheard of by the time TR8R saw Finn
@user-sw7od4yg7n
11 ай бұрын
Comic Star Wars is just better in every single way. Kind of a shame that most of the storylines never make it to TV or Movie adaptions that remain faithful to the stories.
@devilmikey00
11 ай бұрын
The force in the old expanded universe is so so OP. I remember in one of the books Mara Jade just casually mention how if she wanted she could kill literally anyone nearly instantly by just popping a blood vessel in their brain to cause a massive aneurysm or stroke. I remember reading that thinking that if that's possible why does anyone bother chopping up anyone with a light saber? I get it when it's another force user because they could block the instant death stroke but for everything else? Why doesn't every Jedi/Sith in a battle just hold out their hand and send off a stroke wave and wait until the bodies stop dropping for the rank and file randoms? Seems much more efficient and safe than running into a hail of blaster fire and chopping down your enemies slowly one by one. Also, don't give me that it's more honorable crap lol As if cutting your foes down with a super hot plasma beam is any less cruel than a swift death via massive stroke. If anything the Sith would be less likely to use it because they would want a death to be more brutal and torturous.
@gantzllat
11 ай бұрын
Part of it is for honor, but mostly about faith. The Jedi believe the force to be the primal source and energy of life itself. Using the force to directly kill a living being is a sin. That's why you see Jedi obliterating droids using the force but never use the same techniques against people. That's what the lightsaber is for. Not to mention the reason they use a lightsaber instead of a gun is because is easier to none lethally disarm an opponent with it than whit a blaster. Part of the Jedi code is to protect life at all cost. This includes your enemies.
@animetrashamvs
11 ай бұрын
Darth Vader doing the lightsaber throw in episode 6 was cool...too bad he only used it once😮💨
@Darkness19Z
11 ай бұрын
13:55 Why did I picture Kylo doing that "I AM A SURGEON!" meme. I AM THE COMMANDER OF THE FIRST ORDER
@spacebees86
11 ай бұрын
I love how quickly history becomes legend in the Star Wars universe. Imagine leaning about Vietnam or Iraq as if it's ancient mythology and there aren't survivors we can talk to. Rey thinking the Jedi are like an ancient myth would be like me not believing Nirvana was a real band.
@jayschmidt2196
11 ай бұрын
Karl suggesting Vader chokes nuts tells me he clearly hasn't seen family guy star wars. Because Darth Stewie does exactly that. And about the floating spinning Saber. Look up Darth treya. There's also a great video of anakin trying turning off his Saber mid duel. It's hilarious
@bluefuntimewolfy8416
11 ай бұрын
The things i would do for a Rated R Vader movie or show would make James Charles look straight
@Magicghost23
11 ай бұрын
He’s more machine now than man.
@ThomasAndersonbsf
11 ай бұрын
what I want to see (or rather hear) is AI that is trained on James Earl Jones voice and the physical mannerisms of David Prowes in the Darth Vader suit, to make some variation of metal music LOL
@PJDAltamirus0425
11 ай бұрын
He gambles on and comments on poddracing. He had his own personal ship and plane and few to hunt own Luke himself in a New Hope, I bet he still loved Pod Racing. Also, there is Jedi one of the Older Knights of the Old Republic games whose fighting style is essentially what you described. She levitates her lightsabers around herself. Also, the internal organs and ball squezzing sounds like a vicous tortue techqinue. Imagine your heart being forced to beat irregularly, super fast and super which your balls are being yanked and squezzed,
@revan0890
11 ай бұрын
TIL that Vader is a honey badger.
@Bigblue3000
11 ай бұрын
Boba Outsmarts Han Solo and get him captured by the Empire. What did Phasma do? Give up without a fight, and lost to Finn. Boba at least had a win of some sort.
@nocursewm2938
11 ай бұрын
The "cover your balls" was done in Space Balls.
@THEWATCHER567
11 ай бұрын
I just want a Darth Vader focused movie where he hunts down a Sith Jar Jar Binks for manipulating his relationship with Padmé, furthering his hatred for himself and forcing him to question the validity of their relationship and the very emotions that inspired his dark descent. It would be even crazier if they could show the audience the depth of palpatine’s betrayal through a sort of detective story where Darth Vader uncovers the truth behind padmé’s pregnancy, jar jar bink’s force prowess and political manipulation(because he just, rose to power after order 66) and the emperor purposely making him a still highly capable/useful weapon, but a defective cyborg nonetheless. I think the fact that Anakin seemed to already have plans to overthrow the emperor by the time revenge of the sith came around, but he was almost completely devoted to the empire for decades prior, well it raises unanswered questions, and that would be a really cool way to approach a few dropped concepts :) i just wanted to share my idea, tbh came up with it right after you mentioned Darth Vader squeezing someone’s bladder lol
@dodger7896
11 ай бұрын
I don't know how you can talk about using the force on peoples balls without showing the spaceballs clip
@TheRumChum
11 ай бұрын
now I want to see darth vader in a pod race lmao.
@khartog01
7 ай бұрын
The Vader walk is great.
@displeasedsociopath5939
11 ай бұрын
We need to get a Jar Jar movie. We need to see the extinction of the gungan race after they put the Emperor on his throne and the people of the galaxy turn to take vengeance. The gungan holocaust is too important for history to forget.
@trizick5379
11 ай бұрын
I wanna see Darth Bader working in his ship and has some random officer holding yhe flash light and something breaks and he goes ape shit then looks to the officer then goes back to fixing the ship
@skylarhansen7648
11 ай бұрын
One word. Spaceballs.
@catboxvideo
11 ай бұрын
I love the old EU - in the books the force is used in so many more 'creative' ways.. both light and dark.. and Vader is a massive prick. but fantastic....
@woodch
11 ай бұрын
Missed opportunity to title this video "Darth Vader Doesn't Give a SITH"
@ruileite2634
11 ай бұрын
Darth Vader can do the testicular torsion meme.
@ryzaemm1
11 ай бұрын
I wonder what advert was unsuitable
@MrGregory777
11 ай бұрын
6:30 Also Leia
@geckokid8265
11 ай бұрын
I like to think Vader spends his time in the death star canteen arguing with God about spaghetti alla carbonara and getting beaten up by Mr Stevens - head of catering
@Wixvhen
11 ай бұрын
I feel like our good boy here could use a dose of Kreia in his life. Carl. Please look into Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2. The most creative and possibly most dangerous force user in the entire series. Ever. Literally, nobody in any single part of the canon and noncanon has been as close to the level of destruction and purpose as this old lady. Notice. I did not say Jedi or Darth Kreia.
@wallybarry4511
11 ай бұрын
Vader and the hola-hoop of death.
@ToonGrin
11 ай бұрын
The Crimson Corsair, Sidon Ithano and the crew of the Meson Martinet. Go full Space Pirates of the Caribbean. But ya need that first Pirates of the Caribbean energy. Non of that 4th or 5th movie or the mess 3rd movie where they filmed without even a finished script. They need it to be done and be done right. They don't even need to make something up there is a great little short story "The Crimson Corsair and the Lost Treasure of Count Dooku" in the book Tales from a Galaxy Far, Far Away: Aliens: Volume I. Alternatively, Hondo Ohnaka as a sort of Space Oceans 11. Hondo has either a great heist in order or he is pulling it off to help a friend. He could even be pulling off a heist for the rebels, the empire, the first order, or ideally set it further in the time line away from all the convoluted nonsense. Don't gives us any sith or jedi, which would be lovely, and just make an enjoyable Space Heist movie. Something in the vein of "Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves".
@PoirplePorpoise
11 ай бұрын
I forgot how hilarious this episode was 😂
@-zerxvil-5208
11 ай бұрын
Reissue? Is YT being a prick again?
@lkf8799
11 ай бұрын
I want Ewoks! 😜 Kylo and the Knights of Ren never got fully realized. I wanted more. (Also, more Babu Frick aliens.)
@insanitydementia7715
11 ай бұрын
If you think about it since disney now owns star wars he spends his free time taking photos with fans 😂
@jojotheswede8444
11 ай бұрын
Vader does hover in Battlefront 2 (ps2)
@PumpkinPain
11 ай бұрын
Ofcourse the first video I watch in like 3 years is from like 6 years ago
@adamruff7013
2 ай бұрын
I love the snarky ass thumbnail 😅
@aaronstanley6914
11 ай бұрын
Yes we need Shonen anime style star wars
@Giddog40
11 ай бұрын
Vader can say he killed Anakin all he wants but it’s very obvious that that drama queen is still in there somewhere
@L_______
11 ай бұрын
vader dosnt need to use the force to some one piss themselves of most jedi and enemies they would piss themselves from hearing or seeing him also the spinning lightsaber thing is a think darth traya or kreya did that with multiple lightsabers at ones the only problem with this is its extremely dificult and most of the time its just better to hold the lightsaber and use the force for things like force push/pull/grip/choke/lightning instead in vaders free time he mostly went to either his meditation chamber or the bacta tank to heal he also seems to have developed an intrest in archaeology with history related to sith and jedi he also did tincker mostly with things he used like his ship or sometimes his suit but remember vader was pretty damn busy not only dealing with military duties like dealing with rebels and jedi but also meetings and missions from palpy and a loads of troopers respected vader (most also feared but i digrees)
@johndorsey7514
11 ай бұрын
Darth Maul, not Dark Jedi Maw. Facts.
@davidcrowhurst11
11 ай бұрын
Dis everyone forget mace windu,, is samuel l Jackson, a jedi saying good bye mf... dude really
@anastasia11986
11 ай бұрын
Did Karl fantasize about Darth Vader committing even more sexual violence in the original? This is just uncomfortable to watch.
@kid.d.anubis2211
11 ай бұрын
The armor hurts him right
@CaptainXJ
11 ай бұрын
Ahh remember when the internet was going to be the death of pointless censorship, and now its worse than ever.
@davyberson90
11 ай бұрын
I didn't think their was that much profanity in the original video. Calm down, youtube.
@bigbluedinothethird9781
11 ай бұрын
Man cgi has been getting real good these days. But I think you modelled his nose a little bit wrong, it's just too big.
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