If I remember correctly, the unitrix randomized Gwen's DNA before it created Eunice. I wonder if that line was added just to avoid any creepy implications.
@christianparrish3292
4 ай бұрын
Maybe?
@jf_kein_k8590
4 ай бұрын
I mean, otherwise she would have been a clone of Gwen in appearance.
@trontravolta379
4 ай бұрын
Should've just written it to be sampled from Kevin
@CommentPositionInformer
4 ай бұрын
@@trontravolta379 💀
@raulcerna1093
4 ай бұрын
@@trontravolta379 Then the unitrix would turn into a man .
@DrWardy
4 ай бұрын
overreliance on the wiki will be my undoing
@andrews4717
4 ай бұрын
Oh hey your that guy with the videos. Wack
@TheLordTash
4 ай бұрын
I actually asked DJW about how much production material from past seasons they were given when working on the show (stuff like series bibles and such). According him, they weren't given anything and basically ONLY had the wiki to work off.
@DrWardy
4 ай бұрын
@@TheLordTash that is absolutely wild
@KraylebStudios
4 ай бұрын
@@TheLordTash That kind of sucks. I know DJW kind of messed up some story and lore things so I wish they were given more to work with although maybe it would have been worse
@DrWardy
4 ай бұрын
@@andrews4717 im overjoyed you recognised my name
@АсылжанЖунусбеков
4 ай бұрын
I like the fact that now potentially one of the strongest characters in Ben 10 universe is called "Cosmic Mom"
@JoelDafoe
4 ай бұрын
Kuro should draw a real naljian at his own image as we don’t know is cosmic mom is a naljian or another being
@blackis90pcofmywardrobe
4 ай бұрын
Beware the Mom look
@cracarlos_au5757
4 ай бұрын
Dear god, not the cosmic chancla
@theking8347
4 ай бұрын
Well, possibly. Dwayne once stated that Alien X wasn't the most powerful alien in the Omnitrix, but later retracted that statement.
@fennekin1750
4 ай бұрын
I hope we can get an actual name for her species at some point. If not Naljian, then what is it?
@SerGolden
4 ай бұрын
Hey, BenBFF here from the wiki (Atleast back in the old days lol), thank you for the shout-out at the end of the video!! Fun Fact, I actually was the one who finally got Primus reinstated into canon after seeing the Matt Wayne comments versus Derrick's. I wasn't even a moderator back then so it was fun talking to Orion Invictus (Or BlazikenRJCF as we all knew him back then) and OneofthoseDF trying to convince them and eventually they made the change!! Man seeing all those names mentioned in the end of the video....the nostalgia lol!! Thanks for this video and everything you have done for the community, appreciate ya
@TheInkTank
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video, and for all your work on the wiki!
@redsky005
4 ай бұрын
I think the Nanochip thing comes from the fact that when Ben first transformed into Nanomech, Gwen remarked "He's become some kind of NANO mechanical organism. Just like the chips." It's how Nanomech got his name, and with Gwen comparing the chips to being nano mechanical organisms, I can see how fans kinda just subconsciously went 'oh they're called nanochips'
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
4 ай бұрын
Micro Chips also doesn't have Alien Origins to it like Nano Chips.
@Spooder_Man1421
4 ай бұрын
That first guy was definitely a chronosapian
@axelnilsson5124
4 ай бұрын
And decided to make a Bootstrap Paradox
@minestar2247
4 ай бұрын
@@axelnilsson5124 isn't it called an author's paradox?
@axelnilsson5124
4 ай бұрын
@@minestar2247 no bootstrap paradox is what involves an infinite loop revolving around the existence of an object without origin
@WyattRumore
4 ай бұрын
@@axelnilsson5124 Dr Who made the analogy; A Beethoven superfan goes back in time to meet him, finds no record of his existence in the time period, but since he knows all of Beethovens work, recreates it essentially becoming Beethoven. But who wrote the music pieces to begin with if he never existed? Or y'know... Fry becoming his own grandpa in Futurama
@axelnilsson5124
4 ай бұрын
@@WyattRumore yes and that’s essentially what the OC is referring to with Animos middle name
@FirestoneAnimation
4 ай бұрын
"How many other lies have I been told by the council!"
@Artista_Frustrado
4 ай бұрын
also, is admirable that the Wiki went from a regular fan-wiki, into becoming an unofficial Show Bible
@SamLabbato
4 ай бұрын
I love how kuro threw that little extra detail like, "yeah, I also photoshopped this one guy's pic for the wiki"
@christianparrish3292
4 ай бұрын
Cosmic mom? Wow.
@GUYMANARJIT
4 ай бұрын
I smell some new fanart coming👀
@thatonedragonmyguy
4 ай бұрын
Cosmic mommy
@luxzord865
4 ай бұрын
Cosmic MI-
@umapessoa240
4 ай бұрын
@@luxzord865cosmilf
@RamenMale
4 ай бұрын
@@luxzord865nah go on, say it 🤨
@the_cyberchill
4 ай бұрын
This its why its so important for series to have a lore bible, and internal documentation relying on fan wikis is basically like how teachers told us about wikipedia except its not as well moderated as wikipedia.
@the_cyberchill
4 ай бұрын
as well as for games, especially live services/mmos to actually document the code, looking at you star trek online and "we fired the guys who knew how the foundry works and now its so buggy so we're disabling it" then years later saying "no you see its a copyright nightmare to allow you people to make custom player created content, we cant afford to have staff to moderate every submission." more like you were mad players were better writers then your staff
@christianparrish3292
4 ай бұрын
I still would prefer AF having 3 seasons. The fandom stating that it has 2 is confusing.
@LucyWest370
4 ай бұрын
It makes more sense but also kind of checks out. They should really have two different articles for production and release order
@fennekin1750
4 ай бұрын
Same. It has & will always have 3 seasons for me.
@bowserbreaker2515
4 ай бұрын
Agreed. It aired as 3 seasons, so that's how many it has in my eyes.
@Cashmoneez
4 ай бұрын
It was released as 3 season respectfully who cares how the writers wrote it that’s how it was released. The writers aren’t the only people involved in making the show
@Bobb11881
14 күн бұрын
If I remember correctly, when it was on HBO Max is was bundled as two seasons.
@eddychim209
4 ай бұрын
It was also confirmed that Sploot, a villain that appeared in the episode "Ken 10", is a creature made in a science experiment.
@Felipe-wt6jf
4 ай бұрын
Some facts like the Forever Ninja i guess were never intended to be their canon names, but a way to refer to the character easily since its official name was never mentioned
@theking8347
4 ай бұрын
Ben also refers to it as a ninja in Omniverse.
@joessnorlax2684
4 ай бұрын
funny humungousaur is misspelled and now is canon
@ItsCandyindefinitely
4 ай бұрын
In Turkish his name was translated as "İnsanazor" (Human-a-saur) so at least in Turkey you cant mix up Humungusaur's name coming from being humungous as that is translated as "Devasa" which is not even close to being "insan" so yeah... I thought I was gaslit into believing Humungusaur's original name DID come from Humungous-saur.
@quinnbernal1398
4 ай бұрын
Happy 17th Anniversary, Ben 10 Wiki! Glad to see the community coming together to fix it up and actually make it a reliable encyclopedia of the show's mythology rather than just be a mess of information that is false, missing, or clashes with each other. A lot of wikis for many media should follow this mindset. Definitely would save everyone a lot of trouble...
@chaos4654
4 ай бұрын
A lot of tech and items in the show get referred to as where they came from. Techadon Robots, Tetramand engine, etc. So someone at some point knew the Destructor was from the Naljian race, then everyone referred to it as such after that.
@newil_yovac
4 ай бұрын
Definitely. The series has more instances of things being named after their race than instances of them not. I guess the main difference is that Techadon Robots and Tetramands are recurring creatures in the series, while the "Naljian" species is as much of a one-off as The Great One from Cannonbolt's bebut or the gold-shitting Gremlins from "Fool's Gold"
@fennekin1750
4 ай бұрын
Oh, good point! So, it could be still Naljian, but it also could not. I guess, we'll never really know until its properly confirmed.
@Artista_Frustrado
4 ай бұрын
except the characters that call it a Naljian Destructor had no idea it was a toy that belonged to the Cosmic Kid. so if anything the Naljians ould the race that first found the Toy & use it as a weapon
@fennekin1750
4 ай бұрын
@@Artista_Frustrado Could be possible 🤔 We just don't really have much info on the Cosmic species, Naljians, Naljian Destructor, or anything regarding them, so we just don't know for sure.
@Quillobyte_
4 ай бұрын
I think Derrick's answers were always tricky, since he mostly worked on self-contained reboots and had a blunt & irreverent sense of humor, so he was probably used to easily excluding stuff he didn't like or making up sarcastic joke answers & plot points. Saying that out loud, he might've actually been a better fit for the 2016 Reboot, since that show had squishier art, a more light-hearted tone, and was a unique continuity.
@Theokal3
4 ай бұрын
I agree. I don't know if I would have liked him doing a reboot but it definitely wouldn't have irritated as much.
@mechajay3358
4 ай бұрын
The reboot definitely fitted his style more.
@bowserbreaker2515
4 ай бұрын
I thought he fit Omniverse really well. Especially since it had so many people from Transformers Animated work on it, and Derrick was the art director and a showrunner on that.
@shawerful5209
3 ай бұрын
@@bowserbreaker2515 transformers animated is also a reboot with a silly tone. Omniverse is a sequel
@samlee5774
4 ай бұрын
People on the internet do just be lying
@gammaf1365
4 ай бұрын
I just follow the steps of the Goat J Wyatt
@SecretMagician
3 ай бұрын
I even remember reading something on the wiki that by late Omniverse, Gwen and Kevin had sex. I don't even remember which page it was and why it was there but it isn't anymore, it was even a writer's statement with a link to support
@موسى_7
3 ай бұрын
@@SecretMagician On a children's wiki... I used to read Ben 10 Planet as a kid a lot. Good thing that info was deleted. Funny thing, the wiki says Big Chill reproduced "genderlessly" instead of "asexually". For the kids, eh?
@nerd_world8919
4 ай бұрын
This makes me realize if I ever work on a piece of fiction or create a franchise I will just say “This is a collaborative effort between other directors, writers, artist, and myself. Even though I’m answering your questions they are just MY headcannon beliefs.” That way there isn’t so much confusion or contradiction. And it would help a lot if people were honest and upfront about what things they worked on and what they didn’t.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
That's the best way to go about it.
@SkyEcho751
4 ай бұрын
Microchips actually makes sense, as they aren't really "Nano" but are more like the Microbots from Big Hero 6. In comparison to the Nanomachines from something like Metal Gear Rising, where nano is more like cell sized items, "Micro" feels more fitting.
@jvbon646
4 ай бұрын
Now that you say it, I just remembered they had a whole ass battle while in the brain as a battlefield So the Queen was small as fuck despite being the most powerful in the hive, way smaller than the drones in the movie Tho Nanomech had the ability to change size, so she most likely can do it. But still, the abyssmal size difference is funny
@calvinmatthews1527
4 ай бұрын
Wow, a fandom wiki that's largely considered reliable & is constantly updated? Unheard of.
@lpfan4491
Ай бұрын
It's not the only one, some fandom wikis have genuinely insane quality behind them. It honestly just sucks tho because fandom drags everything it is connected to down a notch, it feels like the high quality of the fan contributions are a bit wasted due to the consessions in place.
@kevscollectibels
14 күн бұрын
@@lpfan4491 Yea like the Transformers one is pretty good
@PeterGrffin204
4 ай бұрын
Imagine changing something on the wiki and it being in the show
@christianparrish3292
4 ай бұрын
Fake facts? This should be interesting. And good morning everyone.
@cliffturbo2146
4 ай бұрын
Good morning and long time no see!
@christianparrish3292
4 ай бұрын
@@cliffturbo2146 sup
@BorisTheAnimal-p5y
4 ай бұрын
It's 5:07 PM where I am
@whitebeard_d_banana
4 ай бұрын
Good morning good sir
@blakethebeast3174
4 ай бұрын
Red Knight does fit better than Red Ninja, but the robot is SO ninja it's hard to not think of it as one.
@youtubeuniversity3638
4 ай бұрын
You'd think there'd be internal documantation that'd make the wiki completely unnecessary for the rotating writing team.
@anthonyvillanueva5226
4 ай бұрын
I've always wondered why these long-running shows don't have some kind of creative story bible
@lpfan4491
Ай бұрын
It might be incorrect rumors, but I heard that Cartoon Network does infact have internal materials, they just refuse to give them out.
@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
4 ай бұрын
My favourite part of the Ben 10 Wiki is that KO from OK K.O. is a page on it.
@bonusaccount3474
4 ай бұрын
Garnet and Raven too!
@theking8347
4 ай бұрын
Kevin being a mutant still feels like a more reasonable assumption than him being part alien. You had Clamcy, the Circus Freaks, all those wrestlers in the wrestling episode. Plus magic users like Hex and Charmcaster. Kevin wasn't that weird by comparison. He was just a kid with energy absorption powers, no different from all the other humans with superpowers.
@theamazingspooderman2697
4 ай бұрын
exactly, it also feels much more inclined with OG series as it had a mix of mutants, aliens are other stuff instead of making everything alien
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
4 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 , the Grandmother of Ben and Gwen were also retcons from UAF besides Gwen not having Magical abilities anymore and Kevin going from a Mutant to an Alien Hybrid.
@JohnWilliams-wl9px
4 ай бұрын
They could have done an easier fix than what they did Omniverse, by just saying Kevin and his dad were mistaken for Osmoians.
@guywithaface887
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I prefer Kevin being a mutant rather than part alien. I just think it's more fun when the alien force crew's abilities come from different sources, that being aliens, magic, and mutations.
@Theokal3
4 ай бұрын
True but none of these characters had a stated origin, let alone any indication they shared one
@strider_hiryu850
4 ай бұрын
the "Glass Cup" analogy really put into perspective how odd it is to assume that an objects name can be used to determine the name of a species
@vasamatijasevic1948
3 ай бұрын
Not really, because you have to think what were show producers thinking rather what is more logical in our universe. It makes complete sense for writers to name the technology after the speices using it, which happened multiple times in the show anyway
@abdalln8554
2 ай бұрын
Its a pretty recurring trope on Star Trek, Romulan Ale, anyone?
@strider_hiryu850
2 ай бұрын
@@abdalln8554 sure but, i dunno. just 'cause it's a trope elsewhere doesn't mean that's what they're going for here. the Glass Cup analogy still holds sway over me. plus, again: she's referred to as "Cosmic Mom" in the credits. so, there's really no basis in canon. if they wanted to, if this was what they were going for, they could've called her "Naljian Mom" or "Naljian Mother"... but they didn't
@mechajay3358
4 ай бұрын
A lesson here is that fans shouldn't take easily edited sources from a Wiki (Specifically from FANDOM Wiki) as full on facts.
@detectiveplays
4 ай бұрын
2:45 The chronosapiens named their time bomb after them Maybe in Ben 10 Aliens Just do that
@b1rgar1p1nsan6
4 ай бұрын
Speculation.
@detectiveplays
4 ай бұрын
@@b1rgar1p1nsan6 Yeah it's Speculation
@GUYMANARJIT
4 ай бұрын
I don't believe it's wrong to think that they are the Najians, simply that it's wrong to assert it as the actual truth.
@detectiveplays
4 ай бұрын
@guymannargit The whole community call them Najians ND so did one of the people at the show We never know what they're actually called
@emperortgp2424
4 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly, you never see Maltruant referring to the bomb with that name, it's always some other character who did so. From their point of view, calling it a Chronosapien time bomb is understandable, just like aliens referring to cups as "Human cups" is understandable
@versuzzero5335
3 ай бұрын
The Cosmic Mom talking to Ben and the others is just like a real life human talking to a sentient 2D character.
@silentnight6810
4 ай бұрын
I swear one fact I've heard but couldn't find a source for is the ultimatrix turning the user into a duplicate of the alien scanned when obtaining new alien DNA.
@jammingwhey2781
4 ай бұрын
I remember this too, and it being the explanation people went with for why all the new UA aliens looked identical to their dna sources
@jvbon646
4 ай бұрын
@@jammingwhey2781 That's just stupid They look exactly the same because of something magical called "reusing assets" lmao By that logic all of Terraspin's species are also clones of Galapagus, cuz when Aggregor arrived everyone looked the same. And the only other member of the species to not be genetically identical would be Adwaitta. They just use the same models to save time, money and resources. Unique desings are made for special individuals or occasions. It isn't even a new thing, OS did it too. BenWolf and BenMummy where identical to the Yenaldooshi and the Mummy. They just gave one cloths and swapped purple with green for the other. Meanwhile BenViktor got an actual new desing to make "Viktor" look more like a hero/good guy.
@magnum9588
4 ай бұрын
I knew Naljians were a myth. People thought I was crazy
@SilverBordered
4 ай бұрын
With regard to the DVD subtitles being inaccurate at times. It’s my understanding that subtitles (in any media) are based on the script, like copy and paste. It saves massive amounts of time compared to someone transcribing all the lines. If the actor gives a slightly different take on the line but it’s close enough, they don’t bother changing it.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
oh
@jadethenidoran
4 ай бұрын
I think the first one might have been caused by someone mishearing the J. in "Aloysius J. Animo" as James.
@eddychim209
4 ай бұрын
I always love to believe that Queen Horatia Rumbletum of the Gourmands is the daughter of a king Perk Gourmand and a Queen Murk Gourmand and I was starting to think that Buzzshock and Feedback, because of similar appearances, are related in some way.
@Grayson-Winchester
4 ай бұрын
I didn’t understand why the forever knights still existed after UA? When Ben stepped in to fulfill George’s final fight, he ended the sole foundation why the organization was even formed.
@owenhalloran3111
4 ай бұрын
people can find any reason to cling to power
@DamianQualshy
4 ай бұрын
Same reason why Forever Knights had different factions and none of them knew of the original mission.
@avionboi6866
4 ай бұрын
that's the reason there's only like 4 members and a robot in omniverse
@jacklee6582
4 ай бұрын
They called forever knights for a reason
@Grayson-Winchester
4 ай бұрын
@@DamianQualshy shouldn’t they have been working with the plumbers to keep earth save or was it just a excuse to hold weapons for ransom?
@Truck-kun11
4 ай бұрын
For me, the only reliable and 100% canon information is that presented in the show itself since things like third-party products, info-cards and producer statements are always subject to change, retcon or were just invented on the spot.
@cxthednalien
4 ай бұрын
Cough cough Mor'otesi
@gracekim25
4 ай бұрын
Honestly that’s no fun to not allow other products or staff statements to be possible
@christophercrafte
4 ай бұрын
This is very true. Many writers all telling us pretty production ideas, concept art, scrapped story lines, ect ect is fun, but people give it too much weight when these things contradict the actual story we see.
@user-uq9oe7sc5m
4 ай бұрын
"subject to change, retcon" is one description I'll use for information presented in the show itself.
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
@@gracekim25 fr
@homabasiri2218
4 ай бұрын
19:16 LMFAO I DIDN´T EXPET CANNONBOLT TO POP OFF LIKE THAT💀💀💀💀WHERE IS THAT FROM 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@idle_speculation
4 ай бұрын
Somebody found the Cannonbolt model from the Protector of Earth game and animated it.
@Proygon
4 ай бұрын
what if the first guy just misheard "J" as "James"
@موسى_7
3 ай бұрын
Interesting
@heroxbrave9094
4 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos for years at this point! Thank you for all the amazing content!
@TheInkTank
4 ай бұрын
So glad you’ve stuck around Hero, and thanks for the donation!
@the-dramatic-nerd
4 ай бұрын
So glad we have a more coherent version of the Ben 10ks. It was very confusing and still is tbh but this helps
@Andrew-Bastin
4 ай бұрын
At the end of the day Ben 10 is a long running franchise that spanned multiple series and writing crews all with their own ideas and their own “canon”, and those ideas aren’t always translated well into the actual episodes, for example giving the context the Ben’s in AXT were meant to be Ben Prime but that wasn’t properly conveyed in the episode itself which left a lot open to interpretation and the original intent was lost to the point when later on when asked Duncan rescinded his initial statement. Another issue is that there are many popular fan head-canons that are always presented as fact by many vocal members of the fan base like the popular one about how “when Ben meets his future-self his future changes” which has absolutely no basis in the show and has never been supported by any crew member or official media, but it’s treated as “fact” because people spread it around as such, so is the Original Ben 10’000 and the Omniverse Ben 10’000 the same person and Ben’s definitive future? Yes, No, Maybe? With the inconsistencies with the crew statements and in the show itself there is no concrete answer and it can go either way. With many concepts left open to interpretation there are no definitive answers.
@Justus4Libertea
4 ай бұрын
I don't agree with Alien Force having 3 seasons cause 'that's the way it was aired' That would be like putting Firefly episodes in the order they aired even though the creators let everyone know Fox showed them completely out of order
@موسى_7
3 ай бұрын
interesting
@Dr3adrex
4 ай бұрын
Wikis are a dangerous place,you'll never know who you'll meet and you never know which fact is real or fake.
@MazenKarar-e5r
4 ай бұрын
True i had personal experience with that edit wars on the famous Wikipedia for example,You should check multiple versions of pages in different languages and chech the footnotes for any reliable evidence i saw many edits on the english page of the "savafid empire" that were recent and completely baseless surprisingly the iranian wiki page version has a very objective and faux unbiased essays on it without nationalist myth.
@MazenKarar-e5r
4 ай бұрын
I remember there was a bizzare case where a teenager edited the Scottish language page making up completely fake accents/dialects it was very funny 😂.
@Artista_Frustrado
4 ай бұрын
well duh, if you actually watch the episode they made pretty clear that the Naljian Destructor wasn't named after the Cosmic Mom's race. they didn't even knew there was a Cosmic Mom looking for the Cosmic Toy that their Cosmic Child lost long time ago so if anything the Naljians are the species/empire that found said cosmic toy
@hyperion472
4 ай бұрын
As Ash said about the dancing cannonbolt gif "HE'S BUMPING!"
@modmaker7617
4 ай бұрын
The Nanochip thing is a big shock and Mandela Effect for me as I love Alien Swarm as a kid and watch it on a loop and have it on DVD
@hypnoticskull6342
4 ай бұрын
I kinda made my own headcanon for Kevin's thing. He is an alien, Osmosian, and everything about his backstory was true. He went to prison, met Kwarrel, learned to control his powers, but when he escaped, that's when he was captured and tortured by Servantis. He used Kevin's Osmosian DNA to splice the DNA of the children of some plumbers, and then that's when he erased their memories of the events and sent them free as experiments. I think that puts them both together in a satisfying way
@anthonyvillanueva5226
4 ай бұрын
That's my headcanon too. Only thing from the franchise I'd change is him being Max's partner. Gives a horrible characterization of Max for not recognizing who was clearly Devin's kid.
@trontravolta379
4 ай бұрын
Why would Servantis work so hard to get Kevin back in the present day if there's an entire world of Osmosians out there that could do exactly what he wants Kevin for
@theamazingspooderman2697
4 ай бұрын
no this headcanon doesn't make sense, if all osmosians can do what Kevin can do then why go after Kevin? him being a mutant makes much more sense with the tone of OG series
@christianvondruska8244
4 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 It's entirely possible that Osmos V was destroyed at some point after season 1 of Ultimate Alien.
@hypnoticskull6342
4 ай бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 Easy. He was the easiest to get a hold of because he was mentally disturbed and a kid
@Michael-cg5qn
4 ай бұрын
Another thing that always irked me about the wiki is that for the creation of Kenny’s watch Ben Viktor (Frankenstrike) was labeled as one of the creators along with grey matter and another alien who I forgot even tho Ben Viktor has never shown any impressive intelligence feats on the level of grey matter and brainstorm only because Dr. Viktor was a scientist therefore the entire race was full of geniuses
@theking8347
4 ай бұрын
That WAS canon, but Frankenstrike's intelligence was retconned in Omniverse.
@jvbon646
4 ай бұрын
The BenViktor things is legit, he was listed in the Pop-Up trivia among the aliens used to make Kenny's Omnitrix They just retconned the intelligence out of Frankenstrike in OV, and changed it so that only Viktor was a genius but not a trait of the whole species
@Michael-cg5qn
4 ай бұрын
Ben 10 and their retcons… I would’ve never guessed it was retconned at all
@edgargaebolg9307
14 күн бұрын
They probably retconned Frankenstrike's intelligence so he wouldn't overlap with Brainstorm as a smart alien with electric powers. Ironically, that makes him overlap with Shocksquatch as an electric strongman
@youtubeuniversity3638
4 ай бұрын
17:38 "Twin stuff, call me Titan"‽ Seriously‽
@TheInkTank
4 ай бұрын
They'd just be typing anything back then!
@youtubeuniversity3638
4 ай бұрын
@@TheInkTank You'd think OFFICIAL dvds and cds would be able to, I dunno, ask for the scripts or somesuch‽
@موسى_7
3 ай бұрын
Almost as if they were using KZitem subtitle software back then. I'm guessing they're using old people or non-native English speakers or Karens.
@crystalmoon101
4 ай бұрын
The entire species is actually just a bunch of cosmic mums
@TheInkTank
4 ай бұрын
Mamma Mia!
@fartinmartinreborn9522
4 ай бұрын
It’s so interesting how the show incorporated fans input by taking info from the wiki and putting into official Ben 10 media, if not the actual show dvd covers and comic books are still really nostalgic media for some to own from their favorite franchise and some I appreciate them using fans interpretations instead of just BSing something off the spot. It shows that even in the fandoms early days there was a relationship between fans and official media that I don’t know if you find in other franchises like Ben 10 I’m sure there are but Ben 10 has always felt like it was made for people to enjoy and interact with more than just watching they want us to have our own theories and insights
@AussieDragoon
4 ай бұрын
Eh, I feel the merch argument is kind of shaky. Merch is an official part of the show and how its perceived, so unless its directly contracted by the show itself at the time of its release I wouldn't call it a fake fact (or a retcon in the opposite case), just that it was "decanonized". When you lack a primary source it's only natural that you go to the next most official place as a source of information and these things are always subject to change. I'll give an example, Marvel comics releases official handbooks for their characters and storylines, some done in house. In a few of Cyclops' entries it says at his optic blasts don't come from his body, but instead that he opens a portal to a dimension of concussive energy through his eyes. This is never stated to be true in books and other official handbooks state the opposite. This has even been played with in canon where another character opens a portal to a dimension that is filled with red concussive energy and fans have dubbed it the "Punch Dimension". But the question then becomes, do bits of information that's unconfined or contradicted/changed later/ignored invalidate every handbook that has or will come out, even for characters who don't have this specific problem and for ones who won't have primary information given later? With this I feel it should be a case by case basis where if the primary source doesn't use it as a fact, you can ignore it, but if its never claimed otherwise it fine as a source of information to cite. These things are just going to happen with long running continuities with multiple creative sources, not everyone is going to agree, look up what previous creators have said/done or even honor what was done before they had creative control, so when you look at it like that why can't non-show sources be viewed as reliable canon until the show says otherwise?
@theamazingspooderman2697
4 ай бұрын
the Cyclops example was a perfect example to this discussion as I feel most Marvel fans I've seen dont know where the "eyes opening to a dimension" explanation even originally came from
@sagittariusneptune9330
4 ай бұрын
I know there for a while there was Gwendolyn Ben's(semi-official) daughter there's concept art of her, and she is seen next to Kenny in ep. Ken 10, and yes her animation model was used in Ben 10'000. Heck she looks like Kai, if we have to accept that Kai was Ben's future partner, then I accept the fact that Gwendolyn could be canon.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
4 ай бұрын
The only way I could see Kai and Ben being an official couple canonically if they had an Alien Hybrid daughter named Gwendolyn since Kai loves Ben's aliens more than Ben himself, so Gwendolyn being an older sister of Ken makes perfect sense.
@sagittariusneptune9330
4 ай бұрын
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr I could see that I just wished they kept with that concept of Ben having a daughter along with Kenny and those two could had a stand-alone episode together, like Ben anodite potential skipped him(though it was hinted in UAF Ben 10K) that he can use Anodite energy, so Gwendolyn would be just like her Aunt Gwen, but with Kai's native american ancestry. So instead of Aliens she deals with spirits of deceased villains in afterlife. Cause Ben-Kenny are one of my favorite father/son relations in fiction. While Goliath/Angela, and Jotaro/Jolyne are some of my favorite father/daughter relations in fiction so I see Gwendolyn getting along with Ben, but she's stuck up like her mom while having Ben's cleverness to outwit opponents.
@thegreatscribbles960
4 ай бұрын
Honeslty woth how many mistakes ,misconceptions and all these cooks in the kitchen its surprising how ben 10 is still great show
@eddychim209
4 ай бұрын
12:42 It was not just him, Magisters Prior Gilhil and Arnux are stated to *still* not be Incursions also.
@TheInkTank
4 ай бұрын
True, but it's not provable that they are or aren't. But as for the Incursean Warrior, it was pretty clear what he was meant to be.
@hert2458
4 ай бұрын
Happy 17th Anniversary to the Ben 10 Planet Wiki, it really has grown into a great source of all of Ben 10's history and really great video debunking a lot of the misinformation over the years (still crazy that some of these made it to the actual shows)
@mrkaji8913
4 ай бұрын
5:43 I wish we got AF and UA animated films
@axelnilsson5124
3 ай бұрын
Since they’re in the same era it’d be better with a Ultimate Alien animated film
@mrkaji8913
3 ай бұрын
@@axelnilsson5124 exactly. I can imagine one animated film after each season. I can imagine some adapting the video games and adding extra stories. I can see one after AF s3 be about the main characters going into a virtual world were Ben has the AF omnitrix one last time. I’d love to have one after the events of season one of UA. I plan to make a video on this topic.
@Com1csLand
4 ай бұрын
3:00 another example, shouldn't the omnitrix be called the galvan watch or azmuth watch
@Sabertoothkitten4Paw
4 ай бұрын
That works as an alternate name. If you do not know it’s real name, but you know what species it belongs to
@SowaraAkther1
4 ай бұрын
I think another Ben 10 fake facts which we all believed is how we spell Aliens name and the different versions of it. Some of the alien spelling are different in both shows and merchandise. For example Eye Guy and humungousaur had their names changed over the years. That due to people interpretation of their names.
@LeviChurch
4 ай бұрын
It was so cool getting to talk with Dan Riba and help out.
@omerahmed5503
4 ай бұрын
was binge watching breakdowns and had a question, if the omnitrix does make the transformation the peak form of the species, does that mean ben as grey matter is as smart or even more smarter than Azmuth? i like the idea that it does as ken was able to hack into it and get master control. his grey matter having knowledge as great as azmuth, the creator, would make it easy for him
@JackEdit6924
4 ай бұрын
AZMUTH IS A PEAK GALVEN
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265
4 ай бұрын
Azmuth is peak Galavan i'd say their on par.
@Deadpool-ri3rq
4 ай бұрын
When Ben reaches Azmuth’s relative age they’ll be on par.
@omerahmed5503
4 ай бұрын
@@Deadpool-ri3rq should age even matter? it hasn't been a problem even when Ben was fighting luma who was declared the strongest at the time.
@theamazingspooderman2697
4 ай бұрын
people should stop using Ken as an example, that Omnitrix was made by Ben and not Azmuth so ofc its gonna be easier to hack, this holds true in OV too as Biomnitrix is made by Ben and it fails near solar bursts, which doesn't happen to Azmuth's Omnitrix
@monkiking778
4 ай бұрын
Let’s be thankful that aside from possibly the Kevin thing these additions have not affected the show’s in a major way
@ParkerF0X
Ай бұрын
On the topic of the Cosmic Mom, I feel the need to add something. All the logic related to why it can't be definitively assumed that she's a Naljian is completely sound, and I agree with it. We cannot, with the information provided, state as a fact that the Cosmic Mom is a naljian. But I think it's important to acknowledge that the cosmic mom never called it a "Naljian Destructor", only the Vreedles did. The Cosmic mom only calls it her "daughters favorite toy." Based on how the naming scheme in Ben 10 usually works, characters would absolutely refer to something like the cube as "species it's assumed to come from: presumed purpose" similar to the way characters talked about the Contumelia. (At least to my memory.) The Cosmic Mom may not be a Naljian, but based on everything we can infer from the cube's name, it's very likely to be what the aliens of the Ben 10 universe call her species. At the very least, I would say that if any future writers touch on the Cosmic Mom, it's very unlikely they would call her species anything other than Naljian. I think changing her page to not include the name "The Naljian" as at least an alias is unnecessary, and makes searching for her page more difficult.
@ProvidenceRex
4 ай бұрын
Hello, birthday Ink Tank video! That's another birthday video with Naljians involved!
@ezequielinsaurralde5058
4 ай бұрын
They Probably Take The New Intro Properly Including Alien X Instead Of A Black Silluete As The Start Of A New Season
@thiago7820
4 ай бұрын
I was the guy who asked Derrick for the omniverse chromastone PNG. it’s a small contribution, but it’s something and makes me kinda happy when i remember it
@TheInkTank
4 ай бұрын
It takes every brick to build a strong wall!
@superspider64
4 ай бұрын
I can't remember the names, but I like to believe that the guy who used Kevin's powers to make the hybrids simply went with Max's own paranoia over the idea that everything he promised to his partner about Kevin was just another false memory out of spite against Max
@Theokal3
4 ай бұрын
Holy crap, Forever Knight Ninja WASN'T his official name all along?! All these years and I had no idea.... I admit, for once I'll give OV a point: calling him the Red Knight was the right call. It's a less convoluted name and more to the point.
@S4IF666
4 ай бұрын
Y'all really been edging us by the omniverse breakdowns
@detectiveplays
4 ай бұрын
😂 Frl But they're busy with other stuff
@legofan6559
4 ай бұрын
I use the site for my videos a lot to get species names and confirm some abilities and weaknesses it's nice that they are doing a rehaul to make sure everything is accurate
@JoshuaDDales
4 ай бұрын
On the subject of the quartet of Bens from Alien X-tinction, my headcannon is that the ones from classic, UA, and Omniverse become the Ben 10,000 each show provides.
@riot-r.e
4 ай бұрын
drawing matrix when?
@RomaroBrandon
4 ай бұрын
Here's a fake fact Kyro didn't mention, Ben isn't allergic to cheese or peanuts which was once on the wikipedia page but has sense been deleted. Also I want to add a few things about why Ben 10,000 in Classic and Ben 10,000 in Omniverse aren't the same. Ben has a daughter named Gwendolyn in Classic as well as the prototype designed Omnitrix while im Omniverse he only has a son as well as the Biomatrix and the same Omnitrix he got in the finale of Ultimate Alien that was used in Omniverse.
@theking8347
4 ай бұрын
Ben is allergic to peanuts. It's only brought up in one episode (Blukic and Driba Go to Mr. Smoothy). Ben as Way Big says he won't go near a ship full of peanuts because he's allergic. And unless To'kustars are just allergic to peanuts, which I doubt, then it's an allergy Ben himself has that carries over to his alien forms.
@RomaroBrandon
4 ай бұрын
@@theking8347 Ultimos is allergic to chocolate, pretty sure Way Big alone can be allergic to peanuts.
@theking8347
4 ай бұрын
@@RomaroBrandon Yeah but Ultimos's weakness to chocolate is a parody of Superman's weakness to Kryptonite. To'kustars having a peanut allergy doesn't seem like something Ben would know
@RomaroBrandon
4 ай бұрын
@@theking8347 unless he had peanuts while in that form. I mean he didn't know Ultimos was allergic to chocolate or Upchuck can survive in space if he burps gas until he saw it.
@excalibursaurusm5701
4 ай бұрын
Cannonbolt bumping at the end 😂
@Alex_the_Ahsum
4 ай бұрын
Purple should be everyone's favorite color!!!
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
4 ай бұрын
I only like purple from Helena Wayne, (Huntress), and purple from Code Geass, but otherwise my most favorite colors are red and black.
@youtubeuniversity3638
4 ай бұрын
Imagine someone put on the wiki something that'd be major copyright infringement to have be true and then the newest set of creators mindlessly canonized it.
@1800renzo
4 ай бұрын
Just remembered I used to be an admin on the Ben 10 wiki back in 2010, it used to be so unorganized until I came in and I basically copied Bulbapedia's format and tweaked it to fit Ben 10 info
@mechajay3358
4 ай бұрын
Wish they had followed up on the Cosmic Mom's Species. That would've made from some interesting stories.
@swansonjoe7121
4 ай бұрын
I think its really funny that someone can make something up like "James" as a middle name and it can just become reality lol. Like your goof is now part of the official show! Also I might be wrong but wouldn't it make sense that the "cosmic mom" be a Naljian, because why just make up the word Naljian just for the destructor? I think it makes for a cool name for them and it ties the name to the device and the race
@TheMostAdvancedPoketuberEver
4 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, kuro, do you think you'll cover the reboot series in your break down after omniverse?
@SecretMagician
3 ай бұрын
It's been a while but he said he's only reviewing the movie and the finale specials for the Reboot.
@Ilovefoodwastaken
4 ай бұрын
I’m ready for another masterpiece by the Inktank!
@vilepeople3477
4 ай бұрын
I wish Gwen had a villain arc like imagine if someone she cared for died but ben was off fighting an intergalactic battle so she sinks into dark magic in order to resurrect them
@servantofaeie1569
4 ай бұрын
I'm still calling that a Naljian. And if official merchandise says it without contradicting the show, it's canon to me.
@AwesomeX
4 ай бұрын
Was waiting for another ink tank video! Makes my Saturday even better!
@elizabethsusanlibra
2 ай бұрын
About the Naljian thing, I don't think that it would be unusual to assume that the toy "Naljian Destructor" would be named after the species of Naljians. For the glass cup example, we humans wouldn't call it a "human cup" to each other, since we know that it is made by humans already, but perhaps other extraterrestrial species might refer to it as "a human cup" because the cups they have are distinct from what we have. And also, we might refer to it as a "human cup" while talking to other species so that they will understand what we are talking about. An example from the show would be Chronosapien Time Bomb. In the show, we either see it gets called that by non-Chronosapiens or Maltruant speaking to a non-Chronosapien, Vilgax, which would align with the "human cup" example I have just explained. I'd also imagine that Chronosapiens wouldn't refer to Chronosapien Time Bomb with the "Chronosapien" part but rather just "Time Bomb" or "X Time Bomb" where "X" is either the name of the Chronosapien who invented the Time Bomb or the material it is made out of. Although, yes, canonically we don't know the actual species of the Cosmic Mom or what "Naljian" is supposed to refer to. It could also be the name of the inventor of the device too, who might be the same species as Cosmic Mom.
@edgargaebolg9307
14 күн бұрын
While we don't say things like "human cup", we do refer to relics by their culture's name to clarify who made them. This would be a similar case
@baki484
4 ай бұрын
In South Africa the whole hybreed thing was labeled as season 1.
@snapper26
4 ай бұрын
This video felt so good to watch, nice facts Kuro!
@TheInkTank
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nataliepartsch801
4 ай бұрын
Also, Naljian is similar to other demonyms (Canadian, Indian, American) which would denote the destructor being created on Nalj or Nalji.
@harrietr.5073
4 ай бұрын
Nalji the Cosmic Dad. Makes toys like an extradimensional cosmic Woodworker.
@orekihoutarou6107
4 ай бұрын
Or Naljia.
@orekihoutarou6107
4 ай бұрын
Still, the Chronosapien Time Bomb exists, and the Naljian Destructor was presumably named in a similar way to it with it being based off of the user naming it rather than the creator, so Naljian fits as well as any of these names.
@nataliepartsch801
4 ай бұрын
You make a good point, and also the species from the planet Nalj/Nalji/Naljia would most likely be called Naljians. I feel like we just don’t know enough about it and the -ian suffix(?) could mean so many things. That’s separate from the fact that Cosmic Mom could have gotten it from a Naljian without being one.
@vbarreiro
2 күн бұрын
Eichiro Oda says he heavily relies on One Piece wikis to keep things consistent. I can understand why, Akira Toriyama straigh-up forgot he wrote Lunch into the story at some point and then realized like a decade down the line “oh, right, I did write that character didn’t I”
@mumky
4 ай бұрын
Idk what it is about this video but i felt a strange wave of nostalgia while watching
@mollof7893
4 ай бұрын
Imagine if an Alien finds out about French Toast and assumes we are all French
@Bobb11881
14 күн бұрын
You can never trust anything a writer says online in response to a question. More often than not they just come up with it in the moment and will forget about it later.
@SavantPete
3 ай бұрын
The fact that cosmic mom wasn't scanned by the omnitrix alone shows how power she is
@helixsol7171
4 ай бұрын
I can't believe I believed and spread misinformation about Echo Echo. Also I *swear* on my *life* I've heard Cooper's last name said somewhere in the show.
@ramezrayan9614
4 ай бұрын
I was going to make a video similar to that after i finish my high school I wish you agree to this because I don't want to be strike down by Copyright
@dionysisnance4204
4 ай бұрын
Who knew dr animo middle name was James
@DillonMaynard
4 ай бұрын
While it's true that Ben's future doesn't necessarily have to lead to OV Ben 10k, I don't think Ben's future should change anymore.
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