I‘d say Codsworth would be chaotic good character. He has the best of intentions but still flames people alive and rebells against his own programming from time to time
@tnagels
Ай бұрын
Also when we first meet Ada she‘s a robot filled with most rage her programming would allow her to feel with plans to enact revenge and is absolutely internally pissed when we don’t kill the mechanist she also doesn’t give a shit if we absolutely eradicate the half of the commonwealth you cannot be sayin‘ she‘s on the same level as curie
@verybadwordforname
Ай бұрын
Codsworth is also totally chill with cannibalism and actually has some funny lines when you do
@AdmiringCrab-zn2nc
Ай бұрын
if you keep drinking buddy instead of sending to rexford he won't be mad
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@verybadwordforname I remember he “hated it” when I ate people.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@tnagels I don’t think wanting revenge is inherently bad, and I remember how happy she was when I showed her how good the world is. I’m keeping it!!!!
@ageinggamer3049
Ай бұрын
Strong actually hates it when you steal. And I still can't believe that is the same guy who voices Goku
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@ageinggamer3049 I’ve never looked up something so quickly in my life… Instant promotion to Lawful!
@ageinggamer3049
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus yep Sean Schemmel, he voices a lot of the ghouls too.
@senseistick9942
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcusstrong follows the principles of super mutants. The super mutants don't own things and share with there brother's. They have a hierarchy based on strength and respect each other as long as they follow the principles. You can see super mutants as Kommunist raiders
@Matt-td8xw
Ай бұрын
He also likes when you help other people if i'm correct, i can't renember well but you could farm friendship with him by doing minutemen quests.
@ageinggamer3049
Ай бұрын
@@Matt-td8xw that's the milk of human kindness he's been looking for
@todd.cannon
Ай бұрын
Dogmeat should have his own alignment. Goodest Good Boy.
@topperman4541
Ай бұрын
Piper is chaotic good. Piper has this tendency to shot first ask questions later. She has gotten me in so many gun fights trying to sneak pass an enemy I just didn't want to deal with and then comes in ole Pipper with guns a-blazing!
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@topperman4541 I haven’t found a companion yet that doesn’t blow my cover the second we see enemies. My institute stealth character doesn’t use a companion for a reason haah
@darcichambers6184
Ай бұрын
Her stories are also written in a very provocative way. Like she is trying to get a fight going. Yes she wants people to wake-up about the Institute, but she fans the flames of paranoia instead of trying to find a solution. I would move her to chaotic good.
@mikitz
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus Strong being the worst culprit.
@sattymike0155
Ай бұрын
Right. I agreed with the placement of everyone except Piper. She’s clearly chaotic good.
@StacieMMeier
Ай бұрын
She shall also use people to get to her goals.
@theextracrispycolonel9502
Ай бұрын
Strong i disagree with the "chaotic" part, because strong does have a set of principles, as strange as they may be.
@ThebigZ1353
Ай бұрын
Strong must find the milk of human kindness
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@theextracrispycolonel9502 Maybe I wrote off his quest for the milk of human kindness too quickly.
@HunterBowalka
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus strong talks about making super mutants stronger and that super mutants share everything that super mutants are all brothers. I would have put him in Lawful Evil.
@kippies66
Ай бұрын
Don't worry, I won't change Preston Garvey's position. What does need to change is the precarious position of a nearby settlement that's in trouble. I'll mark it on your map.
@Justanjester
Ай бұрын
GOD DAMN IT
@NordRageLevicus
24 күн бұрын
Fun fact, in my first playthrough I helped so many settlements that I broke him, he no longer asks me to help settlements on that save. I have to listen to that god awful radio freedom to get radiant settlement quests. In numbers, my pip-boy said I had done 59 minutemen quests when he stopped, which annoyed me cause I wanted an even 60 😂
@TheWhanos
23 күн бұрын
DANG YOU GARVEY!
@wolfmantheimpaler
Ай бұрын
I'd argue putting Hancock in Lawful Neutral or even Chaotic Good because he likes it when you help people as well as stealing from/hurting bad/corrupt people, meaning he does have good morals
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@wolfmantheimpaler the random stabbing when I first met him made me question his morals just a little bit. But I thought he’s certainly a good guy that is willing to make some tough decisions for the sake of Goodneighbor.
@wolfmantheimpaler
Ай бұрын
@T.J.Marcus granted, the guy he stabbed sort of made a veiled threat to him, saying, "If you get too soft, maybe somebody will take your place"
@thebiolibrary5572
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus Not really random. He saw a man threatening a visitor, he decided to tell him what he thinks about causing trouble to strangers. It's just his thoughts on that involve stabbing the troublemaker.
@darcichambers6184
Ай бұрын
The rest of the conversations you have with Hancock put him as chaotic good in my book. He tries his best to do good, but it doesn't always work out like he plans. I figured the stabing was a last straw kind of thing. But I'm very biased. Hancock is my go-to romance.
@nalyddylan
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcusthe stabbin seems random at first, but when you look into it, it really isn’t. finn seems to have a history of extortion, especially those new to goodneighbour. he also threatens hancock in some sorta way, sayin that if he lets newcomers “walk all over him”, he won’t be mayor for much longer.
@stephenwood6663
Ай бұрын
I feel like perhaps Piper should lean more towards the Chaotic side of the chart: there's a strong anti-authoritarian streak to her character, to the point where Diamond City Security have nicknamed the lockup "The Piper Suite". She also *really* likes it when you lockpick your way into places you're not supposed to be. She's more Robin Hood than Batman.
@CodPatrol
Ай бұрын
MacCready might be more evil, when you find someone in a random encounter needing a cure from radiation he says he wouldn’t have bothered.
@Nick-zp3ub
Ай бұрын
Sounds more selfish than evil. Macready will steal and lie but he won’t murder innocent people without provocation
@annareifer2249
Ай бұрын
@@Nick-zp3ub also McCready HATES it when the player is killing some innocen people. and he is a loving father but afraid to be near his sick son thanks to his past
@mikitz
Ай бұрын
@@annareifer2249 He is also quite repentant of his past.
@StacieMMeier
Ай бұрын
Sounds like he is a survivalist not evil. I always saw MacCready as True Neutral because he seen many people die and knows death is there all around him. Life in Fallout is a live or die. He knows this, he lives this. He shall help if it helps him, it doesnt matter if other is good or bad. He is there to survive. But what really makes him true neutral, he only kills if he is required to do such. He isnt going to kill anyone unless they force his hand. Only a true neutral would react like this.
@atari_o6169
Ай бұрын
When you said Ada not knowing about the commonwealth is wrong and should not be included with curie because, yes curie hasn’t seen the commonwealth so it would make sense that she needs to embark with you but Ada has seen the commonwealth because she was in a caravan that travels throughout the commonwealth and has probably defended her self from raiders robots etc so she would know what it is like.
@ptorq
Ай бұрын
Danse and X6-88 are definitely lawful. Where they go on the good/evil axis depends on what you think of the Brotherhood and Institute respectively; if you hate the Brotherhood more than you hate the Institute I can see a case for switching their positions.
@ProjectNathaniel
Ай бұрын
Just to add to Nick, while he currently does things for cash, he tells you about when he first started he didn't even think to ask for payment, he was just happy to be treated like a person. He has no preferred faction coz at the end of the day, Nick stands for the people.
@gymhayes4613
Ай бұрын
Dogmeat's alignment is GB, Good Boy.
@shireboundscribbles
Ай бұрын
I see it slightly, differently with Lawful being about structure, whilst Chaotic hates structure. Good meanwhile is about beauty, whilst Evil enjoys vandalising the world. On that scale, Cait and Hancock both strike me more as Neutral Evil, with Cait maybe even being Chaotic Evil.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
🤔Not a bad take. I need to reflect on this.
@TheQuenchiestCake
Ай бұрын
I understand why you would consider Strong to be Chaotic Evil but I think he fits more for Neutral Evil, he has some rules of his own, they're just super mutant rules, which are mostly might makes right and stealing bad, sharing good. So basically a communist barbarian, which true Americans like Sergeant RL3 would find detestable! Everything else, though, I think your choice in placement checks out. Maybe Dogmeat could be lawful Neutral like Danse, since you (the Sole Survivor) are basically Dogmeat's BOS, whatever Dogmeat does is in service to you, and all the ends justify the means. I'm indirectly saying Danse (And by extension X6-88) is a dog for whom he serves.
@TraceyIsTired
Ай бұрын
I'd say Hancock does have better morals than some of the other Chaotic companions, one of his voice lines being "We help those who need help, and hurt those who need to be hurt." Loose definition, but he definitely prefers to be helpful to those deserving of it. Those who don't deal in shady businesses.
@alphastormeex9468
Ай бұрын
I like how you mention in the video that the deeper you dig into a character, the more you can argue for them being almost anywhere on the alignment. My D&D group and I have argued over Hancock a lot. Arguments have been made for him to be aligned as chaotic good, lawful good, chaotic neutral, and lawful evil. I can see an argument for all of them except lawful evil personally. He does have governing moral principles as simple/few as they may be. But he also expresses that he prefers to follow his gut and act on impulse. And he values freedom of choice in life.
@kriegmesserdclxvi2833
Ай бұрын
I hate to go all Jedi, but from his point of view, Strong is both good and principled.
@_NIKOS9_NIKOS
Ай бұрын
Strong actually likes when people work together and he disapproves stealing. I wouldn't call him good but chsotic evil is a bit much
@EmperorElmo501
Ай бұрын
I think Neutral would be good for him
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@_NIKOS9_NIKOS He likes all displays of strength, and sees stealing as cowardice. I still see him as chaotic evil but that is so subjective to my view of who is good and bad.
@jonputnam7953
Ай бұрын
I’d have strong as chaotic neutral. He has no malice in his actions and evil intentional. Is a lion evil for eating a gazelle? Or for killing a lion challenging him?
@danerman73
Ай бұрын
To me, Dogmeat is lawful neutral instead of true neutral. His guiding principle is being loyal to the player and following commands without question.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
THAT... is a good argument, actually. He does have a guiding principle.
@rootbeer666
Ай бұрын
Pfft. Ada is an absolute chaos machine and goes along with anything you do. Definitely not the same as Curie.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I am realizing I might have based her alignment on how I lead her (which was good neutral). There were definitely other paths for her so I agree she is neutral but she could have been all 3 neutral spaces.
@DJFurious619
Ай бұрын
Love how you use the D&D alignment system!
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
It's a fun system and applies well to other worlds.
@dmitriblyat8237
Ай бұрын
Strong is one of my favorites, because he approves war crime
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
He's just down to clown and I respect that.
@plaguenplay3516
27 күн бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus"down to clown" is more suitable for Hancock imo
@simonacerton3478
Ай бұрын
Good list. Ada doesn't seem to care what actions the sole survivor takes or really have lot of sense of self so I might list her as neutral
@fliegendertitanfliegendert8691
Ай бұрын
I would put old longfellow mire in chaotic neutral and hancook in chaotic good
@samdrop9223
Ай бұрын
Your first interaction with Hancock is him stabbing someone to death after they try and Rob you
@fliegendertitanfliegendert8691
Ай бұрын
@@samdrop9223 yes but he want Rob you and he don't like stealing and he likes if you help people
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@fliegendertitanfliegendert8691 I thought his morals were a little all over the place. But he does have a good side, you’re right.
@michaelproctor8100
Ай бұрын
Like you said, Cait doesn't like it if you sell little Billy into slavery, but she likes it if you tell him that his parents are probably dead. When you do, Cait basically tells Billy to get used to life's disappointments.
@danielr.1922
Ай бұрын
Bro 😹😹
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
3 күн бұрын
I agree with the Chaotic part, but Strong I feel is Chaotic Good. He loves smashing skulls but likes when you help others.
@ManuFortis
13 күн бұрын
I've always figured this morality grid needs a 4th column and line for the 'paradoxical'. The characters that are so fleshed out and sometimes even twisted in the ways in how they are, that it's almost impossible to place them in any of the original 9 squares properly. Hancock might be the best example of this with FO4, because even though he may seem chaotic, the fact he understands that some rules have to exist makes him also kind of lawful. His shtick isn't so much a lack of principle, but rather having a different set of them from what our society looking at this black mirror would judge him under. His whole thing is "Do as you will, so long as you are NOT doing things that harm others... but if you do, harm will come to you." sort of deal. To the sort of people who cannot live without someone else giving them laws to follow, his sort seems very unprincipled. Lawless even in some cases. But they perhaps have the most sane reasoning around the most important tenet of why our laws come to exist in the first place. Freedom. Laws are all about the expression, protection of, and sometimes even restriction of freedom in some form or another. He just wants the most free version of society, which he understands means that there still must be some ground rules to follow for those who like I said earlier, just cannot live without laws. So, if a 4th column and row were to be named the paradoxical, his square would probably be the one labelled as Lawful Chaotic 'good', where the squares all in total would read some combination of lawful and chaotic in the order of hierachry for their personality, and then good or evil or neutral where it applies. The neutral one would sit in the far corner being the most odd ball of them all. So Lawful Chaotic Good, Chaotic Lawful Good, Lawful Chaotic Neutral, Chaotic Lawful Evil, Lawful Chaotic Evil. That goes from the top right, down to the corner, to the bottom left, to keep it roughly in line with how the 'good and evil' sections run. Why no Chaotic Lawful Neutral? It's effectively the same square. Being neutral would mean that these two are basically balanced out in such a way that it's hard to tell if they are good or evil, and so the default of lawful takes over since they are lawful to some degree even if not by much. Kind of like Hancock again, but ultimately he hates tyranny which makes him good compared to one who wouldn't care, making them neutral. One last thing. Hancock might not care if you hurt raiders, but that's because raiders hurt others. They bring tyranny upon others, so he doesn't mind them getting their own medicine. I figured this might get brought up, so I'm handling it ahead of time.
@gothicnight96
Ай бұрын
It's fallout. Everyone is either evil or incompetent, often both.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@gothicnight96 Are you familiar with the Warhammer universe? EVERYONE is the bad guy. Fallout isn’t too different but I’m not taking my boy Preston Garvey out of Lawful Good and you can’t change my mind. Though, he is a little incompetent 😅
@gothicnight96
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus as a matter of fact, I'm VERY familiar with 40k. I know EVERYONE is evil and everything blows. And it blows hard. As for Preston, he just falls into incompetent but not evil. Definitely kinda stupid though, like everyone in FO4
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@gothicnight96 I play a lot of Total Warhammer 3 and I love factions like the Empire, but when you read the missions and events, you realize how evil these people actually are
@gothicnight96
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus As far as the video games go, I've only played Dawn of War, Fire Warrior and Space Marine, but I used to be VERY heavy into the 40k tabletop before my dad passed in 2020. I also keep up with Arch and Luetin for lore since I quit playing the tabletop.
@Keymaster2022
Ай бұрын
Where would you put the faction leaders like Father and Elder Maxin?
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@Keymaster2022 lawful evil and lawful neutral. I consider the BoS morally neutral but I understand some people will disagree.
@RXTRUX1
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus Max is pure evil.
@fluffycamo
Ай бұрын
Id hardly call the bos or Maxwell evil, neutral at worst. The only one from the bos id call evil would be father Elijah, tho I'm biased since he's my least favorite character in the franchise besides Lucy.
@isupposeiexist
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.MarcusI'd go lawful evil for both, mostly because Max isn't willing to give people who have shown they ARE PEOPLE a chance. He had the chillest, nicest BoS leader save his life and went kind of crazy with the power at such a young age. He's not the SAME level of evil, but he's nowhere near good
@DirtyDev
Ай бұрын
@@fluffycamoI’m curious, what makes Father Elijah your least favorite?
@Flecchicutlets
Ай бұрын
Batman is every alignment.
@memcrem
Ай бұрын
I did something like this in the fallout 4 subreddit, X6-88 was lawful evil on mine too but a lot of people were arguing about him being neutral evil, hadnt really thought about ADA being neutral good, i put her in true neutral as she's indifferent to the player's actions, good and bad, like dogmeat, but yours is better considering that she does have that set of morals i hadnt taken into account
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@memcrem she can be convinced after the Automatron DLC that humans are good and worth saving. But I think you can convince her to go the other way.
@NorthernChev
28 күн бұрын
On every play through, I will complete every quest in the game that I can except “Benign Intervention”. I absolutely depend on Cait’s “fuck them all” attitude in order to accomplish certain tasks in the game without worrying about upsetting someone. Yeah, yeah I could also use Dogmeat but I enjoy Cait’s banter.
@owensimpson4950
Ай бұрын
Now hear me out. Elder macnamara is lawful nuetral
@TheQuenchiestCake
Ай бұрын
Checks out, IMO.
@orangesqueasy
25 күн бұрын
I think as it stands at the point of the game, super mutants by fault are chaotic evil. It’s not clear where Strong will do once he’s learned about what the milk of human kindness actually is but I would imagine he’d break past his mental programming to a more neutral or even lawful stance.
@vegastrina
Ай бұрын
I think you did a great job! 👍
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
I don't deserve you 🥲
@user-KR386
23 күн бұрын
I would say Piper is Chaotic Good, Hanncock is Lawful Evil, and Strong is Chaotic Neutral. Those are the only three that I would move. Piper has her own principles and morals, but hates authority. Hanncock, has no issue with killing people if they break his rules and he has a code that leans closer to Evil. Strong has some morals, he hates stealing, respects strength, and the cannibalism is accepted by him because he doesn't think any source of food should be overlooked, but doesn't seem to enjoy torture. Other Super Mutants are Chaotic Evil because they have no morals and enjoy torture.
@terminateshere
Ай бұрын
Only change I'd make is Ada being true Neutral. Other than hunting the Mechanist, she has zero capacity for moral judgement - like Dogmeat. In the game, reflected by not using affinity in any way. Curie remains neutral good though - her programmed medical-care duties give her a 'healer' aura - her only real flaw is naivety. Unlike Codsworth, she hasn't had 210 years outside to learn 'who to trust and who to kill' - hence she back the Brotherhood of Steel despite their hostility to synths and 'peace only through war' mentality. Agree with Strong, though. Whilst he does sometimes show appreciation of 'like helping like', he only believes humans should co-operate in order to further their ability to kill, not for any higher purpose.
@CaelumRoxas
Ай бұрын
One thing to add about Strong, and I don't know if this affects his placement on the alignment chart in any way, but when you actively agree to help settlements, he likes it when you do that.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@CaelumRoxas He seems to “like” every sign of strength. I guess aiding settlements is a sign of strength.
@shaunholt
Ай бұрын
I think Danse is 100% a lawful evil. He'll do anything the Brotherhood wants, slaughtering mutants, ghouls or synths, no matter if they are hostile. The Brotherhood will forcefully take over farms and settlements. They'll nuke an entire part of town if their enemy is located there. They'll wipe out the Railroad, killing humans who are sympathetic to synths. If they could build and use a Death Star to defeat their enemies, they would, and Danse would go along with it. Danse is absolutely willing to do terrible things if the Brotherhood orders it. He's a lawful evil.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
But sometimes the Brotherhood asks him to do good things 👼
@MorganTheGorgon
28 күн бұрын
I agree, it stings a little but Danse is definitely lawful evil leaning neutral. He has good ideals but his willingness to go along with any order no matter how evil it is pushes him over the edge for me. Treating synths like shit-and often outright killing them-stealing food from starving settlers, hostility towards non-feral ghouls, and just generally treating non-brotherhood peeps like shit aren’t things someone can be totally on board with and still be considered neutral to me. Danse himself treats your ghoul and synth companions with disdain and hatred, he just isn’t the best dude morally speaking, even if he is definitely very principled.
@joshuacain9845
Ай бұрын
I’d say strong isn’t exactly evil, he likes it when you help settlements, and he doesn’t like raiders or slavery because they harm human society, his principles are different than ours, and they come across as chaotic at least to us, but he’s not ruthlessly evil like the other super mutants
@BigDavetheMiddleAgeGamer
Ай бұрын
Which is why he was locked up with Rex.
@S4v4gedragon1
Ай бұрын
He dosen’t like it when you aren’t nice because it gets you further from finding the milk of human kindness
@BigDavetheMiddleAgeGamer
Ай бұрын
@@S4v4gedragon1 ALMOST like he knows what it is....almost.
@latro6205
Ай бұрын
13:40 codsworth: would you like some salt with that?
@browniecakes20
Ай бұрын
I feel like lawful and chaotic also apply to world laws/ethics as well. Batman has his own code, but in his universe he’s a controversial character because as much good as he does, he’s still breaking the law.
@GrantReedIII
Ай бұрын
I would call Piper Chaotic Good. She is willing to not follow the law, especially if she sees the law as detrimental. She is not above lying to get what she wants. She still only wants to do good.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@GrantReedIII this is very fair. I was leaning into lawful because she is very principled, almost as if she has her own journalistic laws. She does, however, not care about the laws of diamond city 😅
@mikitz
Ай бұрын
Then again, she dislikes when you steal or demand more money from other NPC's.
@GrantReedIII
Ай бұрын
@@mikitz when you steal, yes. That is when you are causing harm to someone, theft is like that. She likes when you pick an unowned lock.
@user-lj3ee2fu9i
Ай бұрын
Perfectly done
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@user-lj3ee2fu9i I’m putting you in lawful good 😎👍👍
@davidcollinsjr4288
Ай бұрын
MacCready felt hard to place to me, because he's only in the Commonwealth to look for a cure for his kid, which seems good. But thinking of this from a selfish v selfless streak, that's the most selfless thing, and is even a little still "for *my* kin" right? He's opposed to Gunners, for selfish reasons. Wants to end those two, because they're after him. The fastest way to rush affinity with him is to pick owned locks. Anyway, maybe he should fit to the evil end of the spectrum, is I guess my thought to express.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@davidcollinsjr4288 he does so much good and bad that I thought neutral was the only proper place. However, a sign of a good character is being hard to place because real people aren’t black and white.
@yomandinga
Ай бұрын
Any Fallout 4 player knows Preston is lawful evil 😛
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@yomandinga you SHUT your MOUTH.
@AndroidNoir-L06k
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcusdamn are you diamond city guard, did the bullet in the ass finally got to you?
@shxxo
Ай бұрын
“Theres another settlement that needs YOUR HELP. I’ll mark it on your map.”
@RXTRUX1
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus He heads a busted protection racket he's trying to rebuild.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@RXTRUX1 he would never. I swear!
@kylen7351
Ай бұрын
Deacon is the fallout 3 playable character. Cant change my mind about that 😂
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@kylen7351 I’m gonna ponder this for a while 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@kylen7351
Ай бұрын
@T.J.Marcus oh yea. Sarah Lyons was the lover who was a synth. Would explain why maxson hates the institute so much. Maxson was trained by her, so upon learning she was a synth, began a campaign to hunt the institute. Hence, the anger about Danse being a synth. Deacon has been to capital wasteland, is the correct age of the game. And has had extensive surgeries. "I put myself under the knife every year or two."
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@kylen7351 Slow down, I can't handle this theory so early in the morning.
@kylen7351
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus the gang deacon was talking about. Tunnel snakes
@thatcanada
Ай бұрын
It's 100% Cait for me - loves caps and scraps.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
She's fun for a scrapper build.
@gmeletrk
Ай бұрын
I only had one disagreement with you, X6-88. On the basis that IF we had an interesting institute ending, the sole survivor could change his orders to do good. I just think he's the counter beat to dance, but they're both neutral to me.
@pluck8913
Ай бұрын
As for this list, I agree with just a few changes. Piper CG, she's too much a loose cannon. Strong is more Neutral or lawful evil, as stated in the comments below, he's got his pown morals, wierd as they are. Ada, TN. Outside her revenge quest she has no care what you do. And even the revenge is easily altered by you explaining what the Mechanist was trying to do.
@liamvillasevil864
19 күн бұрын
Personally I would have put Piper in chaotic good.
@talideon
Ай бұрын
Cait starts off as chaotic neutral, but she arguably edges her way towards true neutral over time. Mind you, that's not a hill I'd die in.
@bruh-ni1fy
Ай бұрын
I don't think cait is "neutral" lol. She is a malicious person who likes hurting people for no reason. She likes it when you off the little girl's cat in vault 81.
@BroncoJoeAK
Ай бұрын
No, if Preston Garvey is Lawful Good because he follows a set of principles then Paladin Danes should also be Lawful Good, as he believes the Brotherhood of Steel to be morally correct.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
That depends on your definition of "good". I consider the minutemen "good" and the BoS "neutral". Feel free to make your own based on your own principles because all of this is subjective and nobody is really wrong.
@strayling1
Ай бұрын
Preston Garvey needs a whole new category: Lawful PITA.
@BigDavetheMiddleAgeGamer
Ай бұрын
That's called AWFUL good.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
Reported for making fun of my best friend! (not really reported)
@lazy_guy_2525
Ай бұрын
Preston is chaotic evil only because that there is another settlement that needs your help, i will mark it on your map.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
You thank your lucky stars he sent you and not somebody more appreciative of his Lawful Good status.
@wokky02
Ай бұрын
If X6-88 is LE, so is danse. Same MO for both, same motivations, same lack of personal code over organisational ideology. I think you've conflated the alignment of their faction with the NPC... Ada is LN, she has an absolute moral code guiding her questline.
@gameboy12373
Ай бұрын
I would have put dog meat in good neutral but hey it’s your opinion
@oddjarb
Ай бұрын
Dogmeat doesnt care what you do. He doesnt like or dislike anything. If you wanna do an evil run with dogmeat, he will oblige lol
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@gameboy12373 Dogmeat has no objections to my evil play through.
@Flokoba
Ай бұрын
But he's a good Boy!
@ejinfl
28 күн бұрын
Isn’t Batman more neutral good?
@NorthernChev
28 күн бұрын
Curie, although speaking with a French accent, is not “French speaking”, as you state. Unless I am mistaken Curie never actually speaks French in the game. Correct me if I’m wrong.
@unclejoker9956
Ай бұрын
Long fellow is an old bar fly with guns
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@unclejoker9956 He loves and hates with passion (and alcohol)
@user-he2qf5pe6v
27 күн бұрын
i didnt see the boring/useless categorie for preston garvey . where is it !? 😐
@todd.cannon
Ай бұрын
Good video. Subscribed.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@todd.cannon I’m putting you in Lawful Good 🥹
@grumpygramps9542
Ай бұрын
Hey, enjoyed the video and I just subscribed and I wanted to give you a heads up that the link for your book is broken, it just goes to an "oops" page. Other than that keep up the good work!
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@grumpygramps9542 omg thank you and thank you 🥹
@flavivsaetivs5738
Ай бұрын
Are you a little kid? It's said KILLED
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@flavivsaetivs5738 no but the KZitem algorithm is
@flavivsaetivs5738
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus no it fucking isn't. People with WAY more views than you have openly said KILLED and THEY WEREN'T SUPPRESSED OR ANYTHING THIS IS NOT SUPPRESSED, IT NEVER WAS. IT'S JUST FUCKING WHITEWASHING AND AN ENSHITTENING OF THE INTERNET BY CORPORATIONS
@Wolfways
Ай бұрын
Dixie should be a companion.
@Themuffenthusiast
Ай бұрын
Good and evil are a matter of perspective.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
100% agree. This video is my perspective. If someone thinks the Institute is good, then X6-88 goes from lawful evil to lawful good.
@Hayden-ql6fh
Ай бұрын
Personally I'd swap strong and gage
@lechumps9381
Ай бұрын
make one for new vegass
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@lechumps9381 that’s all the pep talk I need. I think it’ll be a little more controversial though, because New Vegas hits on some serious topixs
@The.lnstitute
Ай бұрын
Nick Valentine is one of our greatest creations and I’ll admit we miss him at the institute
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
Bro! Huge fan of your clean water!
@The.lnstitute
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus thank you
@zoriononline
Ай бұрын
I dont think that Cait nor Hancock belive they are "good" per se. Pretty sure that Cage also knows he is rotten. This in reference to you saying "alll think they are good" On the other note Strong for instance isnt directly good either, but he may think he is it, hard to tell due to his cognitive abilites being imparied to say the least :P (Kind of hard to know if he even can grasp the concept of good/evil etc the way normal cognitive persons do)
@teddrewflack400
Ай бұрын
Dog meat is the best companion of all time .
@sergeant_cheese
Ай бұрын
cool good video
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
I don't deserve you (thanks).
@sergeant_cheese
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus make one on like skyrim
@skrog907
Ай бұрын
First time watching your video. Been on a major new vegas kick recently, if you make an alignment chart for FNV companions I'll instantly click on it.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
I’ll do it for the New Vegas fans, because they would do it for me 🥹
@andrewleah1983
Ай бұрын
Not sure getting any help (consciously or not) from that weirdo Oxhorn is a good thing.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
Sry man but I love his lore videos.
@jamescox1805
Ай бұрын
Whhhhhhay piper is sooo evil. She lets her sister all alone at a young age. She lies manipulate to get inside diamond city...wtf
@sambo314
Ай бұрын
Dogmeat can not be good or evil as he has no knowledge of either. He will be by your side no matter what you do
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
The truest neutral companion 🐕🦺
@B1_1_9_7_5
Ай бұрын
13:25 you are so wrong if anything he's neutral evil he hates it when you take from other humans he likes it when you share with other humans he likes it when you help other humans and if not evil person he's just have the differing look on things and when you tell the little boy Billy and that his family is dead strong is sympathetic about it he will say life hard deaths come to wall best little human learn now and if you help Billy find his parents strong will say human should help human this is good and if you don't help Billy he will say human should help human strong know like this strong no like
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@B1_1_9_7_5 I didn’t know there were so many Strong supporters until I made this video. I’m keeping him in chaotic evil, but I get your point. Might be doing a Strong playthrough soon to see what this guy is all about 🤔
@B1_1_9_7_5
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus he is also very wise not matter how hungry human don't eat dirt tastes like dirt pure poetry
@Nick-zp3ub
Ай бұрын
Piper, curie, valentine, preston, danse, deacon and codsworth are good. Macready, dog meat, hancock and cait are neutral. Strong and x688 are evil
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@Nick-zp3ub Morality is subjective, so you aren’t wrong. But I’m proud of you for being brave enough to call the BoS “good” 😎👍👍
@Nick-zp3ub
Ай бұрын
@@T.J.Marcus The brotherhood are morally grey, but they have both good and evil members. Maxson is a deranged fanatic, but Danse has a code of morals
@HK-pq7pe
Ай бұрын
I think Danse and X6 should be together in lawful evil. It's kind of a double standard to say the Institute is evil but not Maxon's BOS. While the Institute are mad scientists rivaled only by Big MT, the BOS in Fallout 4 are a bunch of raiders in power armor, not to mention they actively work towards ghoul/super mutant genocide. Edit, Strong isn't chaotic, he follows super mutant ideology as closely as possible
@antagonisstic
28 күн бұрын
I agree I love Piper and i hate Preston and his annoying voice. While i do like Dogmeat because he's a dog and Deacon is cool along with Valentine.
@keithtravelrn
Ай бұрын
sorry batman is nuetral good at best.. lawful good is superman
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
My Fallout lore knowledge is way better than my DC lore knowledge, so I yield 🤣
@folcotook3049
Ай бұрын
🤓 Um, actually, Danse is a paladin, and paladins MUST be lawful good, so he cannot be lawful neutral. /s 😉
@dubuyajay9964
Ай бұрын
Changed in 4th Ed-Present.
@Hoodini903
Ай бұрын
This guy sounds kinda like paladin danse
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@Hoodini903 I’m not a synth, and you can’t prove I am.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@Hoodini903 also thank you because he’s one of my favorite companions.
@jayartz8562
Ай бұрын
Mara - R-404?
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
I fixed the link😎
@ajosralastname7823
Ай бұрын
Wouldn't the police think Batman is chaotic good because he dosent follow technical law as they do?
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@ajosralastname7823 Yes. And if you think the institute is good, X6-88 is Lawful good. It’s all subjective.
@pluck8913
Ай бұрын
Batman is Chaotic Good. He ignors laws and only follows his own morals. Like V from V for Vendetta. Batman would never surrender to the police if they wanted (seriously) to arrest him. Superman would be considered Lawful Good. As he has surrendered to police when they called for his arrest.
@Plederck
6 күн бұрын
Porter gage is dead
@boss06829
Ай бұрын
Joker isn’t chaotic evil even the joker won’t work with Nazi’s
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@boss06829 he also was wise enough to not challenge the IRS.
@VictorLiso
Ай бұрын
I stopped when you said Batman was lawful. You don't understand the lawful-chaotic axis.
@Keymaster2022
Ай бұрын
Or maybe he doesn't understand Batman
@certifiedhoodclassic9825
23 күн бұрын
do fallout new vegas next!! please :3
@Darkdayzz
Ай бұрын
I never considered the Institute to be "evil." If anything, I find them to be misguided "good." They want to fix the Commonwealth, but they will do it while ignoring the pain of said Commonwealth. I don't consider that evil, persé
@MorganTheGorgon
Ай бұрын
Ehh they’re definitely evil, even if their stated intentions are otherwise. I think “Well-Intentioned Extremists” to borrow from TV Tropes is about as generous as you could get with them. They kidnap and replace people, unleashed super mutants into the commonwealth, and generally do literally nothing to help out while spreading fear and hate among the people. Even if their stated goals are to “help” humanity, in practice they’re not much better than the Enclave. The institute is way too detached from the commonwealth-they live *underground* for gods sake-and that detachment coupled with the dehumanization of anyone outside those walls has led them down a path of cut and dry evil; even if they purport to do good. Very few evil people/organizations openly know and think and state they do evil.
@monochrome_soft9472
Ай бұрын
the road to hell is paved with good intentions. the institute is almost entirely evil in their actions, regardless of how they may try to justify them
@Darkdayzz
Ай бұрын
@monochrome_soft9472 Agree to disagree then. In my first playthrough, I picked them, and out of the Railroad, BoS or the Institute I prefer the Institute as the lesser of 3 evils... After all, if you stick with them, YOU get to decide how they continue. You don't get that in the railroad or BoS.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@Darkdayzz and that, my good sir, is perfectly valid. I disagree but Good and bad are so subjective. I expect your full alignment chart on my deck by end of business day.
@DarthJoJoSage47
Ай бұрын
"Everyone wants to save the world they just.... they disagree on how"
@chainsawz5618
Ай бұрын
while these rankings would make sense for the real world (mostly) it seems you kind of forgot that you're ranking fallout characters, and that's a completely different world with a completely different set of rules, doing drugs in a world where they actually literally give you superpowers doesn't suddenly make you go from lawful to chaotic, especially when they're not even illegal, would be the equivalent of saying that smoking cigarettes makes you evil
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@chainsawz5618 An excellent point. I expect to your alignment chart on my desk first thing in the morning.
@liomurasaki
Ай бұрын
Look, I'm not a psychologist, but i can clearly see, that you weren't good on painting inside the outlines as a child. Good Alignment chart tho
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
Brb looking for when I said I was an art channel
@sonosoloio
Ай бұрын
in all sincerity it doesn't interest me much, anyway I only do the Deacon, Valentine, Maccready, Danse quests and if someone sends me to a certain place, even Cait's quest, the others don't interest me and then I travel exclusively in the company of Deacon. and as far as I'm concerned the dog doesn't exist.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@sonosoloio I’ll put you down as “solo traveler” then 👍 Ideal for stealth builds because all of these idiots get caught.
@charlesbrown2746
Ай бұрын
This is way off
@BruceLee-kf7rl
Ай бұрын
Stop doing cringe Batman voice
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
I'm flattered because this is actually my voice.
@NobodyinAmerica-z4r
Ай бұрын
Kind of a weird game to use this ancient DND compass on. None of these caricatures do ANYTHING unless the player interacts with them, and they are written to generally be as accommodating as possible. What they do or dont believe is meaningless because YOU do all the work.
@T.J.Marcus
Ай бұрын
@@NobodyinAmerica-z4r Invest now because the alignment chart is making a comeback. And I’m basing my decisions largely on how they act when you do things. Many of these characters will complain if you do something they disagree with. Do it enough times and they’ll leave you.
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