yeah but why create new intresting factions if you can milk out the same faction for eternity and the fanbase will eat up all the slop thrown at them
@marco2ol
8 күн бұрын
*new fan base
@Crocc101
8 күн бұрын
Bro they created 3 new factions for f4
@BlueBD
8 күн бұрын
@@Crocc101 technically 1 faction and 1 Subfaction. The Institute while not physically there existed as a named group since FO3. The Railroad isn't Really a faction is a Specific counter group to the Institute that loses it's purpose after the Institute is wiped out and more then likely merge with the Minutemen after their goals are completed or just disband. The Only actual Faction is the Minutemen. They have a bunch of new Subfactions and enemy factions but Full factions there is 1 new, and 2 old in the main game.
@Crocc101
8 күн бұрын
@@BlueBD minute men, institute and the rail road
@BlueBD
8 күн бұрын
@@Crocc101 1 new, 1 old, and a subfaction
@stormhought
8 күн бұрын
Interplay created Nuka-Cola Obsidian created sunset sarsaparilla Bethesda created hundreds of variations of nuka-cola including a copy of sunest sarsaparilla named Nuka-cola: wild
@Pariahmary
8 күн бұрын
Bethesda made Tater, which is the funniest thing they've written, then when you realize it exists just because "lol somehow these two plants got together, completely natural " reasoning behind it is doubley hilarious
@antifreeze3526
8 күн бұрын
me when I completely miss the point of nuka cola wild
@BlueBD
8 күн бұрын
what about Vim?
@quickapollo8086
8 күн бұрын
@@BlueBD fair but the problem is that it's limited to far harbor exclusively
@greysnake2903
7 күн бұрын
Then pepsi
@falco5148
8 күн бұрын
I cried tears of soy when I met the B.O.S. in fallout 5 and they told me: "you need to buy the 2027 premium battle pass subscription to acces this part of the story, 99,99$."
@Lopnawe
7 күн бұрын
But why did they keep it so cheap???? Corporations are people too!
@brunoactis1104
5 күн бұрын
2027 is such an optimistic date lmao. FO5 is probably releasing in 2035.
@Lopnawe
5 күн бұрын
@@brunoactis1104 thats too much. They better re-release Fallout 4 again or else I'll riot
@maxogamer
3 күн бұрын
always great to see a jake and amir reference in the wild
@ryansarafin12
2 күн бұрын
@@brunoactis1104 that's still being generous lol ES6 probably won't come out til 2030-32 and they take roughly 6-8 years to develop their games, so it'll be be more like 2036-2040. Which is wild to think about
@Alex_FRD
9 күн бұрын
"B-but power armor Enclave ghouls super mutants Dogmeat Brotherhood of Steel Vault-Tec Nuka-Cola!!!! Fallout is things, without things no Fallout!!!" I despise what this franchise has devolved into.
@mapu1
8 күн бұрын
To be fair power armor and vaults are really cool. And while having something fresh would be nice, the fallout lore does not really work with innovation much, and you basically are better off starting new intellectual property with similar themes if you are discarding most of the established lore. But you know that sequels sell better than new stuff, especially when its poorly made, and they paid a lot of money for the lore, so they have no indicative to discard it and invest in new marketing. Look into playing some S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Rust, 7 days to die or something like that. Its basically fallout, but without all the cool laser guns,factions and stuff.
@ex0r3t43
8 күн бұрын
things that fallout should keep in every game: ghouls super mutants (maybe) Vault-Tec (part of the main storyline in almost every fallout game we aren't letting it go) Nuka-Cola (it was mass produced in the US) Dogmeat (i want a dog)
@melancholycherry6987
8 күн бұрын
@@mapu1your the type of nigga who never got over their high school crush, huh?
@Wesley-1776
8 күн бұрын
@@ex0r3t43close. Ghouls. Dog. Okay that’s all
@misakayy1911
8 күн бұрын
>power armor Part of the setting, no reason for it to not show up >Enclave Only shows up in FO3, as far as Bethesda games go (no, 76 doesn't count) >ghouls No reason for them to not show up >Dogmeat Yes, dogs exist. Sorry that makes you mad >Brotherhood of Steel Yes, they are an important faction in the setting. Sorry that makes you mad. >Vault-Tec Nuka-Cola Both big corporations that operated all over America. Again, no reason for them not to show up
@dumdummcstupid2414
8 күн бұрын
I've always stood by the idea that the Bethesda-originals *(Free States, Responders, Minutemen, etc.)* are very good ideas with alot of potential. Potential that is then wasted because all those original factions get sidelined by the Brotherhood or Enclave.
@emeryduhgamer
8 күн бұрын
Very true, I’ve always kinda felt they were underdeveloped and overshadowed by larger longstanding factions just to pull old fans back in. I feel like the Minutemen and Responders have a lot of potential, and I actually have somewhat of a theory of the Minutemen being a small distant splinter group of the responders, but it doesn’t totally make sense.
@awestruckcardboard3431
6 күн бұрын
Having atleast a Faction that is not depentant on the Player should exist, Those who dont need the player are either Evil and or Isolitionist.
@MrN0where
6 күн бұрын
While I like Fallout 3 and 4, one of my criticisms is how underdeveloped the new factions are especially with the idea and concepts alone are pretty interesting. The East Coast lore could’ve been interesting as to the West if the factions were more developed. The Minutemen, Institute, Brotherhood, and the Enclave with Colonel Autumn would’ve been interesting if executed well. Bethesda locks in when it comes to their prewar lore on a random building you explore than they do to their factions.
@dumdummcstupid2414
6 күн бұрын
@@MrN0where I only realized this when I actually started letting myself enjoy playing 76 instead of hating it solely on principal. When the faction isn't actually a faction and is just a bunch of discarded holotapes and terminal entries, Bethesda cooks.
@Passageofsky
5 күн бұрын
One other reason is that they put a talented level designer and idea person [Emil] in charge of writing, he's possibly the the last person that should try to produce his own ideas, lol.
@HellsFury-fu3qk
7 күн бұрын
I remember a long time ago I had a friend who tried to make his own fallout game set in Texas. He figured out that he could still have the enclave and BOS in the game but as relics of a different era. The Enclave? They ended up mingling with a vault and founded the Lone Star Republic. Brotherhood? They devolved into raiders in power armor and made their own war tribe in the northern panhandle. He also had legion have a presence in western Texas as their frontier while southern Texas had the Republic of the Rio Grande. He even made sure Boss Energy Drinks replaced Nuka Colas. It's a shame he couldn't get past the concepts phase. Would've loved to have seen the mod.
@keaganhoman7759
4 күн бұрын
Sounds awesome! Wish it could’ve been made! Remember the Alamo!
@HellsFury-fu3qk
4 күн бұрын
@@keaganhoman7759 Funny you mention that, he also had a buffer state between Lone Star and Rio Grande with Alamo City. They were neutral to both nations and would use caps as opposed to dollar currency from the two countries.
@hamoodhabibi1579
3 күн бұрын
@@HellsFury-fu3qk Reminds me of Old World Blues somewhat with a Brotherhood Presence as in the mod, it did show that there is a Texan Brotherhood and a Lone Star Republic though sadly the lone star republic in game isn't made up of former Enclave guys. But hey, still cool concept.
@adrian0o0
2 күн бұрын
I remember they were planning to have a playable supermutant named "Sherf"
@GloriG_C17
8 сағат бұрын
BoS should be a Technopile cult
@Thegreenbeangoblinyt
9 күн бұрын
I like the point you made at the end where you said it’s not very hard to think of new faction ideas. The hardest part is letting go of the old factions.
@elongatedgoose2246
8 күн бұрын
Its great because the dlc that preaches that message has a bos antagonist
@johnrose3799
7 күн бұрын
@@elongatedgoose2246 Elijah is barely brotherhood. He went mad for crying out loud.
@elongatedgoose2246
7 күн бұрын
@@johnrose3799 because he couldn't let go, reinforced the narrative of the dlc
@johnrose3799
7 күн бұрын
@@elongatedgoose2246 it was he couldn't let go of the Sierra Madre's treasure, not the bos
@elongatedgoose2246
7 күн бұрын
@@johnrose3799 yea it drove him mad that doesn't change he was an elder
@ohmyglob7222
8 күн бұрын
The brotherhood is doomed to fail, Veronica even says it. No faction that refuses to make contact with civilization is going to survive. The fallout 4 brotherhood is eventually going to be shot down, and realize they aren’t some grand savior. The mojave chapter and the western brotherhood are also doomed because of their lack of sharing techcnology for the benefit of humanity. Something the brotherhood was genuinely founded to do, they werent intended to be isolationist hermits. Let the brotherhood die, because they were always destined to do so
@ohmyglob7222
8 күн бұрын
Also when Maxson founded the brotherhood he didn’t want to make another US army, because that’d just end up in the same way. Fast forward to 4 and the brotherhood is now the US Army 2, weird insane pipe dream faction that think’s their some savior of the country, who want to blow things up and stuff. Todd Howard wont let the brotherhood finally wither away because they’re his little power armor militant baby
@ohmyglob7222
8 күн бұрын
Never forget how easily and uncaringly they massacred innocent doctors over some BS knowledge sharing either
@jrex0522
4 күн бұрын
and the one person who was steering them in a direction where they would survive died (or was exiled, cant remember).
@zackbatcountry3361
3 күн бұрын
Why would they die and not have they number dwindle and them be a shadow of their former power something akin to the outcasts
@brad1426
3 күн бұрын
@@zackbatcountry3361 Well, tbh for a faction that is kinda "death" The Brotherhood, or whatever organization could consider it a progenitor, will likely survive. It just won't be The Brotherhood at that point, it will have become something else entirely. Tbh a lot of Fallout is about the inevitability of change, and they would do well to illustrate this with the East Coast Brotherhood splintering/evolving as it grows and peoples' aspirations diverge or clash.
@drear20486
6 күн бұрын
In Fallout 3 Colonel Autumn wanted to use Project Purity as a bargaining chip, making settlements reliant on them for clean water would allow the Enclave greater legitimacy and further control. It's a shame, because I see an opportunity for a really interesting questline, aiding either Colonel Autumn or President Eden, and helping decide the Enclave's future
@griggletv6974
4 күн бұрын
That would require nuance and hard thinking all it would do is stop the them park ride and Todd has stated he loves extreme violence in games
@thebluehat6814
3 күн бұрын
but enclave is evil.... you can't side with the evil that's bad........
@LucyWest370
Күн бұрын
@@thebluehat6814actually the enclave being able to be sided with is exactly what killed the faction. Autumn was probably intended to have the same motivations as eden early on, but they needed a way for the player to do an evil karma thing at the end of the game so they just made autumn disagree with eden so the player could do it instead.
@arcmate9193
9 күн бұрын
The Bear... The Bull... The... Goat...Horned... Thing?
@user-zq4od7pg2e
7 күн бұрын
The TCU horned frogs
@oliwer23pl95
7 күн бұрын
Horned Rat Yes-Yes, We will Rule-Rule Man-Thing
@vittoriolepporio122
7 күн бұрын
@@oliwer23pl95BY SIGMAR A TALKING RAT! IM GOING INSAAAAAAAANE
@kuddlethegamer
8 күн бұрын
Call of Duty doing a collab with Fallout is so funny to me because it's two series who have completely lost their soul interacting with eachother in a way that requires them both to have completely forgotten what they're about to have even considered the crossover.
@BobGeanis
7 күн бұрын
I've never heard about this. Bethesda wants a dumb audience if this is true. Call of duty fans are annoying.
@Chubbyhero
7 күн бұрын
i think you are thinking of fortnite, but your point still stands
@drstrangelove307
7 күн бұрын
@@Chubbyhero no CoD did a Fallout collab too.
@seabass5892
6 күн бұрын
@@BobGeanis Of course Bethesda want a dumb audience. That's how they make the most money
@thirdanimator3347
6 күн бұрын
@@Chubbyhero At least with Fortnite, they honored Fallout in some way by creating one or two locations inspired by the games design. And are supposedly adding even more stuff related to Fallout. CoD just put photoshopped Vault Suits on Soap, Ghost, Price, etc.
@kingcorviknight
8 күн бұрын
Fallout 5 BoS lore is going to be crazy
@ytmld
8 күн бұрын
Fallout 5 is gonna come out to be another generic storyline like 3 4 and the show
@lunaseur327
8 күн бұрын
@@ytmldI LOVE SLOOOOPPPPP
@mrfabuloso91
8 күн бұрын
Man I can't wait to see if they're going to be the good guys or stand ins for fascism this time!!
@Chubbyhero
7 күн бұрын
hey, we could get lucky and microsoft push bethesuda so hard for more fallout content that obsidian gets to work on the next fallout game
@rivvabear9748
6 күн бұрын
@@Chubbyhero Best case scenario fs
@Karter_Blackpaw
2 күн бұрын
The problem with modern Fallout is that the Bethesda is literally too afraid to let the world change and move on. They want it to be this stagnant silly apocalyptic franchise that doesn't want to move past the bombing of the world and wants to just revel is playing in trash, bomb craters and buildings that will never be repaired.
@mynithical
9 күн бұрын
While yes, Bethesda does have trouble letting these factions go I feel as if it wouldn't be as much as a problem if the factions became more fleshed out, bewtween each region instead of being black and white. But honestly, this just stems from my saltiness for not being able to join the enclave in fo3, being stuck with the brotherhood.
@wolfamongsheep3032
8 күн бұрын
We need a game where we can finally join the Enclave. It really isn't fair we have gotten to join nearly every major factions except them.
@user-un5xj1wl6p
8 күн бұрын
@@wolfamongsheep3032Bethesda is afraid to tell stories with real choice, funnilly skyrim was their first break from Uriel Septim 7s life.
@demon_step6646
8 күн бұрын
Ong
@gaulicwarlord
4 күн бұрын
They can’t let them go because of marketing, tons of new fallout fans will eat up the slop, just like they did when they first played fallout 3 in middle school.
@gaulicwarlord
4 күн бұрын
To me, supermutants are the saddest bastardization of Fallout’s original lore out of any of the other factions. They go from soldiers of an army that no longer exists, doomed to wander the earth, finding new purpose, or slowly losing their minds, all while very likely still believing in the twisted vision of the insane monster that created them, to just orcs. It’s honestly pathetic, and just spits in the face of great characters like Marcus, Lily, and God/Dog. Todd claims to love Fallouts 1 & 2, but by this point I find it hard to believe he cares about the franchise outside of its most marketable aspects.
@somedesertdude1308
9 күн бұрын
bethesda never understood fallout let alone their own games lmao
@ytmld
8 күн бұрын
they turned fallout into basically skyrim cause they’ve been milking 4 and 76 for almost 10 years now
@HolyknightVader999
7 күн бұрын
You can say the same thing about Interplay. Fallout Brotherhood of Steel says hello.
@somedesertdude1308
7 күн бұрын
@@ytmld skyrim 2 when
@somedesertdude1308
7 күн бұрын
@@HolyknightVader999 "it was a spinoff!!!"
@BobGeanis
7 күн бұрын
@@somedesertdude1308it's probably better than what Emil has been writing up
@B-zk9bt
7 күн бұрын
The fact that Vera Keyes’ last words: “LET GO” is so relevant to the post war world and she didn’t even know it.
@synthomite405
7 күн бұрын
also they fucking MOVED shady sands!!!!! idk why more people don't talk about this, they couldn't figure out how to make their story work so they just retconned one of the most important places in the canon
@theodderotter6635
7 күн бұрын
Don't worry they did that in Fallout 2 aswell, and they retconned and said that mutants aren't sterile after a 2nd puberty. And for the show I'm also pretty sure they said Bakersfield didn't have a vault, like erm... Necropolis??? and like that's the city on the cover. Also LA looks the fucking same as it does in modern day, plus there are no nukes in the scene where the bombs go off.
@thatwardrobeguy
6 күн бұрын
have you ever played either of the classic fallouts? not a single location in fallout 1 is even remotely in the same place in fallout 2
@awestruckcardboard3431
6 күн бұрын
@@thatwardrobeguyMaybe because both games take place in the respect of Northern California and Southern California.
@ryszakowy
6 күн бұрын
and the crater after shady sands is so small it should have 0 effect on entire NATION of NCR how did they completely fall apart and were reduced to band of raiders is outside of any kind of retarded bethesda logic
@Eluvien737
5 күн бұрын
@@thatwardrobeguygood lord forbid people don’t know basic California geography. For starters Shady Sands is east of the Sierra Nevada’s mountain range, since Vault 13 is in said mountainous terrain as clearly seen in F1 whilst the Vault dwellers heading east is where we’ve first seen Shady Sands. Therefore the capital city of the NCR, is 150+ miles north of the Boneyard formerly Los Angeles and these talentless hack writers don’t even know basic geography is laughable of relocating Shady Sands down south. Let alone getting it’s infrastructure wrong, what people don’t know nor realise is that Shady is a pure adobe built infrastructure buildings not your traditional concrete blocks as a shining example. Therefore Shady Sands is a post-war infrastructure that doesn’t use Pre-War city ruins, something the TV show gets it wrong that’s infuriating and don’t get me started how many times they overuse Maximus childhood flashback from the fridge is pure annoyance. As Graham Wagner one of the show runner so eloquently puts it “Remember this, remember that uh no story” in one of his interviews just watch Maulers video and see the clip yourself is downright hilarious that clearly resonates with Modern Hollywood. At this point it’s better treating F1 , 2 and New Vegas as its own separate trilogy of West Coast lore and world building for a time we’ve had this coexistence. Bethesda = East Coast , Interplay/Obsidian = West Coast in manner of mainline installations but of course those 2 hack showrunners have no artistic creative ability whatsoever had to butcher this balance we had. Instead exploring say Seattle City , Florida or even Colorado in said originality but hey we gotta be constantly reminded of countless reference/easter eggs am I right? It’s downgrading truly, look no one’s complaining fallout is now a ‘mainstream’ IP however as we’ve seen countless time such as Star Wars , Marvel , DC and other household Franchises names has downgraded in quality all in the favour of pure mediocrity contention rather demanding original quality. Phase 4 of the MCU encapsulates everything I’ve mentioned, naturally it took a while for people to wake up and have said superhero fatigue same could be said for the Fallout TV Show as it’s now walking in the Mandalorian footsteps. Sure Season 1 may be ‘great’ but now Season 2 will be ‘fan service’ or as I’ve labelled it damage control on Todd Howard’s part in showing a ruined Vegas city than of course when Season 3 rolls around it’ll downgrade even more. This is a pattern of recognition, and don’t say I didn’t try to warn anyone whilst it may seem cynical unfortunately in modern Hollywood in general we might as well get used to disappointment and these producers in aspects of creativity, simply doesn’t have any clue whatsoever on crafting a intricate story that stands on its own merits of originality. That being said rant/critic over, if you manage to read through all prior slop congratulations you’re able to pay attention.
@Oppen1945
7 күн бұрын
Aren't Synths and the Railroad also in Fallout 3? I recall there being a quest about that you get in Rivet City.
@ryszakowy
6 күн бұрын
there's so much stupidity in this one quest it's hard to sum up in one word most doctors around wasteland have a holotape that is message from institute that they are looking for missing android - yes they refer to him as android just synthetic matter that starts the quest some time after starting the quest some random dumbass claimi g to be from railroad will give you ANDROID compenent and ask you to tell the guy that android is destroyed and this gets better once you go to rivet city THE ANDROID is the first npc that will talk to you to skip majority of stupidity i'll just go to the end you HAVE to go to broken bow of the ship to find a guy who did plastic surgery on the android he even has pictures, voice recording and written logs o his terminal once you get those you talk to the guy and he tells you everything and even a passcode to restore synths memories option 1: you go to science lab, guy looking for the synth stands there all days with his synth bodyguard (no wonder he can't find him) and you can sell the android whereabouts to him option 2: you go to the guard who first spoke to you and go through streamlined conversation to convince him that he's a synth and restore his memories as thanks he gives you his UNIQUE PLASMA RIFLE HE USED AS INSTITUTE SYNTH -yes that is compeltely fucking stupid and either you or him go kill the institute guys also weird - the escaped synth was one of those that hunt escaped synths in failout 4
@Yuta_Respecter
8 күн бұрын
Season two will make the Dust mod canon so that Todd can have his fallout 5 on the West Coast. Can't wait to see Lucy gawk at every little mean creature like the spooky deathclaws, and the ghoul make quips about how the wastleland is le bad. No House, No Legion, No NCR only Todd and his bastardized BOS on top of the Lucky 38, in a static world with no growth post war, only nihilism and shallow anti-capitalism messaging
@stannisbaratheon_1
6 күн бұрын
cannot fucking wait for them to make a canon courier and negate every player choice
@ballinmonke1893
5 күн бұрын
showrunners said House has a role in season 2 in a Verge video 2 days ago
@dangi6516
4 күн бұрын
I can already see female Legion soliders and online defense "it's been years, they could change"....
@kazakhstanisastate4614
3 күн бұрын
@@dangi6516 i mean its possible they could change if the courier was female and sided with the legion
@dangi6516
3 күн бұрын
@@kazakhstanisastate4614 it's not possible, all members of the legion are taught from an early age that women are weaker and only suitable for the kitchen, and even if they didn't do it now, the vast majority of centurions, decanuses, praetorians, etc. would have been brought up with this belief + even if you are female Courier, Legion only tolerates you because it's Caesar's will, a great example is that even though you can have the highest reputation with the Legion, Otho still doesn't let you fight in the arena.
@vitalitydoesstuff3603
8 күн бұрын
There are 50 states in America and yet Bethesda can’t find a way to come up with a single new faction unique to those states. EDIT: I’m not saying that Bethesda hasn’t added new factions, but they don’t even slightly hold a candle to the classics. It shows a lack of effort and wasted potential at times. That said fallout 76 is the most unique fallout of the Bethesda fallouts and it’s pretty charming at times.
@SirMirror890
8 күн бұрын
Fallout: New Canaan when?
@BobGeanis
7 күн бұрын
@@SirMirror890I don't want them touching the west coast. They already tried to give their AIDs to the west coast in the show. Sorry I don't consider a TV show relevant to the games as much as I don't consider a board game relevant (there's several branded board games, guess they're part of the lore too)
@drstrangelove307
7 күн бұрын
Responders, Free States, Minutemen, Institute? It’s easy to make that claim if you simply cherry pick the BoS or Enclave where you can.
@chryon315
7 күн бұрын
@@drstrangelove307 you have a point but even though they're interesting factions the Brotherhood always wins or shines out as the major player. I even feel like the Minutemen were Bethesda's way of cock-blocking us "lol no you don't get an NCR on the East Coast because the Brotherhood always wins"
@B-zk9bt
7 күн бұрын
I’d say The Responders and The Free States are the only original factions Bethesda has made.
@Xronis153
9 күн бұрын
I wouldn't have a problem with the NCR's collapse if the writing wasn't this sloppy. One city got nuked and it all went to shit immediatly. While the BOS and Enclave just keep making comeback's. Good show though it helped get Fallout the fame it deserved.
@frontline205
9 күн бұрын
My thought is that there’s still NCR here and there and they’ll make a comeback. Kinda like how the Enclave makes a comeback. At least I hope that’s where it’s going
@doublewoofwoof
9 күн бұрын
The ncr probably isn't destroyed. The ncr have territory all throughout the west and the sign in shady sands in the show says it's the ncr's first capital, meaning there's at least a second. It's likely that the ncr just moved north and the ncr in the show is just people who stayed behind, probably because of Moldova's work.
@lapine.mp4lapine.mp350
9 күн бұрын
the show is bad, dude. sorry.
@Lobsterwithinternet
9 күн бұрын
@@doublewoofwoofBut Shady Sands was the capital during New Vegas. When did the NCR have time to change capitals before Shady Sands was nuked?
@Lobsterwithinternet
9 күн бұрын
@@frontline205If that were the case, the NCR would have already taken control of the Boneyard in the 15 years between the supposed destruction of Shady Sands and the show. And the factions popping up out of nowhere is a Bethesda problem.
@upon1326
2 күн бұрын
The Enclave base wasn't in California. In the show they say the Enclave member is "Going to California."
@ringoreddo308
7 күн бұрын
Obsidian even made it well with FNV's DLCs. You have the New Cananites, White Horses, The Sorrows and the White legs in Honest Hearts. You have the Marked Men in Lonesome Road. I think you can count the Think Tank and Mobius in Old World Blues. And you have the whole idea of Dead Money. Fans even managed to do it over and over again in their big mods like New Vegas Bounties and the many total conversion mods. Look at the likes Fallout New Mexico for Fallout 2.
@russianoverkill3715
3 күн бұрын
Even fan made Fallouts give us interesting factions, Rebirth ghouls from Resurrection, Imperialistic BOS, Phoenix, Cyborgs and Mexican army from Sonora.
@CenoriaWoah
2 күн бұрын
Bethesda need to stop using The Brotherhood and Enclave, but how are we just going to ignore the new factions in their main game and DLC’s while listing off all of that?? And even including the think tank. That is simply biased.
@ringoreddo308
2 күн бұрын
@@CenoriaWoah Yeah, I was not sure about the Think Tank.
@Aerynolae
Күн бұрын
Not even mentioning the HOI4 mod, Old World Blues. It adds a lot of factions ranging from a city governed by robots to a fucking mirelurk tribe. And I've only managed to play a handful of factions with how many said mod has. Sure, quality of factions may vary, but a lot of them are pretty unique and interesting.
@kane6351
3 күн бұрын
Hate to be that guy. But there is an Enclave member in fallout 4. He's a member of the Children of Atom in Far Harbour - 'Brian Richter'
@TBRACKET
8 күн бұрын
so you behead elijah right and then proceed to put all the gold bars there okay?, next you escape carrying its head and you can escape with all the MONEY
@feenger2758
7 күн бұрын
loot DEan's secret stashes, find a stealth boy, go into teh vault, make Elijah go down, pick up 37 gold bars compressed into one(place them near the door for ease of access) stealth around the tesla-electro-transformer-thing, after Elijah goes into the vault's entrance area(with a wall terminal) and makes 2(3?) walking animation interrupts, you stand up, and move as fast as possible to the exit, movement speed while crouching is too slow, you won't get through the doorframe in time. After that - smooth sailing, and you let go (of poverty) TL;DR watch a tutorial on how to trap Elijah, you'll get the same thing
@TBRACKET
7 күн бұрын
@@feenger2758 i like the boss fight
@Noodle3058
3 күн бұрын
Please don't behead me
@FunkBastid
8 күн бұрын
Todd said shady sands got nuked in 2281 after new vegas? The courier wakes up on 10/19/2281, so all of new vegas + dlc takes place in less than a month and a half and Shady Sands gets nuked before new years. Very cool, Todd. Thanks for your input.
@stannisbaratheon_1
6 күн бұрын
imagine doing an ncr playthrough then being told shady sands got nuked 5 seconds after the game ended and ncr control in california is now stuck in an episode of Lost
@viewerviewerviewerviewer
6 күн бұрын
Todd said that Shady Sands gets nuked just after the events of Fallout New Vegas, not that it was nuked in 2281
@h.r.hufnstuf4171
6 күн бұрын
Nobody knows if this is a fuck up in writing yet. Calm down nerd.
@ryszakowy
6 күн бұрын
@@viewerviewerviewerviewer todd said "it just works" and spoiler - it doesn't work
@kikrinman1450
5 күн бұрын
@@stannisbaratheon_1imagine doing an NCR playthrough
@zhop951
8 күн бұрын
34:04 Clearly Moldaver has the Project Brazil parasite from Fallout: New California keeping her alive lmao. Then again, I guess it'd have to be a tougher variant, as the one the Star Player/Courier got only survived one nuke. (I am joking if it wasn't already clear, but it would be hilarious if that explanation, or a similar one is used)
@chudthug
5 күн бұрын
that games story is insane
@someguynamedtrevor6081
3 күн бұрын
I love new California but God damn the wolverine healing factor bullshit was so dumb
@zhop951
3 күн бұрын
@@someguynamedtrevor6081 Agreed, the story fell off towards the end, it's fan fiction and you gotta set your expectations appropriately.
@upon1326
2 күн бұрын
The NCRR440 radio from the mod was seen on Lucy Pipboy.
@zhop951
2 күн бұрын
@@upon1326 Which episode? I highly doubt it did but I'm interested to check anyway
@darkbeetlebot
7 күн бұрын
Good lord, how disrespectful can Bethesda get?
@ryszakowy
6 күн бұрын
right answer: always more
@scruffles3838
5 күн бұрын
Bethesda already heavily disrespects their own elderscrolls series so one could only imagine
@WrathKing47
Күн бұрын
@@ryszakowy MOAR
@Thanathos66
9 күн бұрын
The lack of a single, competent faction is the biggest fault of the modern fallout. Alltough I have enjoyed the show for what it is, you are absolutely right on the lack of depth in the factions department. It still has good characthers but that was never the point of your arguement. Fallout is not a clash of ideal world views anymore, it is just a war that never changes and some people trying to survive.
@nandcproductions6810
9 күн бұрын
Republic of dave
@lootbox9071
8 күн бұрын
@@nandcproductions6810Republic of Dave
@mappingshaman5280
8 күн бұрын
Are the east coast BOS an incompetent faction? Seem pretty competent to me
@bubliverman8007
5 күн бұрын
@mappingshaman5280 ya they are, they hate each other and actively split up because one side wanted to go with the original idols of "we want tech and don't care about you" and the other guys were "we need to help these people if we are taking their tec" and took years for some baby (Arthur maxson) to FINALLY make then join together, this creating the dog water BOS we have in fallout 4 who are basically stuck in systematic hell cause you can't take orders from anyone higher than your next rank, and a mix of "we gotta help these people" and "we could care less". Like brother they are breaking at the seams. I wouldnt be surprised if they got beaten by some supermutants again after the sole survivor passes on cause there's so much infighting, paranoia that someone's a synth, and distrust of higher ups and or fellow soldiers. They literally can't go on missions without basically orders being passed down the chain and can't get their idols straight. They may have the ability to be competent but without help from someone who IS competent they aren't
@mappingshaman5280
5 күн бұрын
@bubliverman8007 well fair point with the bos civil war but seeing as that's been resolved that should no more be a factor than tandi being kidnapped by the khans I think you're putting new vegas lore onto 4. Elder maxson gives the sole survivor orders numerous times and he definitely outranks him by more than one rank.
@uioup7453
7 күн бұрын
I don't understand how BoS and Enclave went from main story characters to 80 million different "remnants" spread across the entire USA...
@MinecrafWolf
7 күн бұрын
The Brotherhood sent airships across America
@ryszakowy
6 күн бұрын
@@MinecrafWolf that's a stupid fucking gimmick stolen from fallout tactics and everyone knows that
@CenoriaWoah
2 күн бұрын
Considering The Enclave was the US Government and have connections to Vault Tech, it almost makes sense. It’s a big pre-war group. Fallout 3 and 76 set up that there’s some main “communications” base of sorts. I think there was even something in FO2, but I can’t recall. NV also talks about the base in Chicago, which could be the same place. Fallout 3 just made them boring though. They returned far too early and were just a more stupid version of themselves in FO2. I think the show has a chance to do them justice and have theme evolve if it uses all the set up threads. An Enclave that have learnt from their predecessors mistakes could actually be interesting, as many of their members don’t agree with those at the top, and that has been established throughout Fallout 2, 3, NV and implied in 76 albeit for different reasons.
@trytounderstand2092
8 күн бұрын
5:50 They also don’t budge when offered the Vault 22 data, which could be used to draw in recruits with food
@LivelyGhost42
8 күн бұрын
The show has a bunch of lore inconsistencies that I take issue with. I got the impression that the Enclave seen there is based in Navarro (which is near Chicago I think) which makes it much more believable. Now the fact they don’t attempt to even follow/track their rogue scientist is absurd. My main issue with the show is the collapse if the NCR. It’s a plot point that is completely unearned and if they wanted that they should’ve made THAT the main story.
@Yuta_Respecter
8 күн бұрын
Navarro was based in California and was stormed by a joint NCR-Brotherhood squad, which wiped the Enclave out of the West coast after the Oil Rig was destroyed. And I'm pretty sure that the only place left in lore where the Enclave are even around is Chicago. Which makes the show more crazy, since the scientists somehow traveled through Midwestern BOS, Legion, NCR/Vegas lands without getting caught is insane since we know that the Legion has a vast spy network and pursue Enclave like any other West Coast faction, and the Brotherhood of Steel has the Circle of Steel, and for the MidWestern chapter specifically has inquisitors and Paladin Lords that do dirty work. Only for the scientist to die in Filly is insane. Bro went through hoops to deliver cold fission and died to a wound lmao. Agree tbh.
@LivelyGhost42
8 күн бұрын
@@Yuta_Respecter holy crap I didn’t know that lol. Crazy how much more absurd that makes the story
@theodderotter6635
7 күн бұрын
@@Yuta_Respecter is Filly, actually Philadelphia?? Because I lowkey made headlore of it being a town in California and it's fucked if that's actually Philly
@pels_stacked
6 күн бұрын
@@theodderotter6635obviously it’s not Philadelphia dude come on
@cryptotugboat7753
5 күн бұрын
@@Yuta_Respecterwasn’t the legion in like arizona? so i’m pretty sure that the scientist probably went from the north of cali and then went down, i think he knew about the other factions before as the enclave probably told him and he used that info to help him escape
@Ryan_McEdgelord
6 күн бұрын
Lets be real, Bethesda is kind of scared to let go of old factions and introduce new ones. I mean, look at the factions in 4. The railroad? Bunch of kids playing pretend it seemed like. The institute? Yeah it was definitely expanded for 3, but it feels like a plot device that didn't go anywhere even tho theyre the best choice for the Commonwealth. The Minuteman barely even count as a faction, tho the idea of them is cool. Honestly, holding on to old factions is really all they have, and i wont be surprised if they bring the enclave back for 5, which the enclave is the faction that needs to be let go of the most.
@AvaritiaFirst
9 күн бұрын
I love the video, but please explain why your New vegas FOV is so cranked up in the beginning, spooked tf out of me
@theodderotter6635
7 күн бұрын
Geeked up playing Xbox all day.
@mike4724
8 күн бұрын
Hank at the end is heading to Mr House
@dumpanimator
7 күн бұрын
Ulysses word always left mark on my head War never change,men do On new vegas there are alot of people that letting go of their past Joshua graham was change man after his lost on hoover dam Ulysses has change from caesar spy into the person that want to change history It also remind me the difference on writing from bethesda and obsidian
@Dfoskdty
4 күн бұрын
No Ulysses changed from a legion spy to a fucking maniac who wants to nuke a place in a shallow plan to get back at the ncr for destroying a place he barely had ties too. But the pretentious video essayer in you can't admit that.
@leadslavgamer4444
8 күн бұрын
About fallout 76 - the thing is, the style of this game is different from all other installments. It has dozens of factions, each with fleshed out story and dozens of questlines. The main "story" of this game is just going through all the factions, hearing their stories and going to another factions. All of them affect wasteland in a significant way, but no one has an upper hand, so it's just a huge melting pot of different ideas. There are no dominant factions in this game and the approach is "eh, all of them are extinct by the time any of the other games happen so anything can happen here."
@arkgaharandan5881
3 күн бұрын
"i wish bethesda made a new faction instead of using the old ones" Emil "ok i will use some crap about synths that some intern wrote for fun in fallout 3 and make it an important part of the canon, even though if you had that technology then the entire retro future setting of fallout is bunk and anachronistic"
@lemonynora
3 күн бұрын
Colonel autumn had the potential to be a really interesting antagonist. Like he wants to give the wasteland water in exchange he gains their favour and in so many more recruits to go on the warpath against people who don’t submit to his new order. Bethesda needs better writing. They should honestly outsource it to obsidian
@thewrongopinion2474
8 күн бұрын
In defence of Fallout 3 - Bethesda was trying to include as much "Fallout" as possible (with 0 comprehension, there is no excusing that) to pull as many existing fans in as possible. After all it was immediately billed as "oblivion with guns" when it was announced. Beyond that Bethesda has been entirely reliant on branding. FalloutTM = BoSTM + Nuka-ColaTM + Vault-TecTM, etc... and the primary goal is make X fit because iconic. ... I'm now wondering if copyright has something to do with it. Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel have to be actively used so they remain a protected part of the IP
@troopersteve2992
8 күн бұрын
Fallout 76 is funny because they did make new factions that people wanted to see more of, the Free States, but choose to leave them dead and just bring in the BoS, which they actually made a decent excuse to have at first, they heard of Maxsons rebellion and joined in, but they are still stupid because I would rather see the Free States than the BoS. At least the BoS abuse is not nearly as bad as the Super Mutant abuse though, in 76 they are even more stupid as they just dumped FEV into a towns water supply for shits and giggles and they are just the same as Fallout 4 mutants. People argue they are from Vault 87 to explain the numbers but they do not look anything like them and are still extremely stupid.
@Dodge_this
8 күн бұрын
17:50 actually it's 3, there's a super mutant dog trader at far harbour
@smell4685
7 күн бұрын
Love that guy, he's sick
@SPARTAN22294
Күн бұрын
From everything that I heard in Fallout TV series is that Vault-Tec and the Enclave are working together. And also, in Fallout 76 its revealed that Doctor Stanislaus Braun the creator of the Garden of Eden Creation Kit that was in Fallout 3 has connections with the Enclave.
@karimmoop9560
8 күн бұрын
Expanding the power of the brotherhood of steel was actually considered by the Interplay devs for Van Buren. I think Bethesda read these notes and thinks their being faithful. But Learnodo's "rough draft" of the Mona Lisa had a MAN who was the model
@russianoverkill3715
3 күн бұрын
Key word "considered" not made.
@karimmoop9560
3 күн бұрын
@@russianoverkill3715 it was almost out the finish line
@thymealtos4367
7 күн бұрын
Tourists infected this franchise so they can eat bethesda slop and they can soypog at the shallow imagery of what was once a nuanced world
@mrgodzillaraptors8632
Күн бұрын
As a new Vegas fan, I can say that Tourists have not infected the franchise. People like you are just so whiny and annoyed about people playing any game that isn’t the original or new Vegas, that you act like people enjoying something will ruin the entire franchise. That’s just dumb
@LiquidRat420
Күн бұрын
@@mrgodzillaraptors8632fr fallout might be the worst fan base they cry about everything blaming new fans like they made the game the way it is
@mrgodzillaraptors8632
Күн бұрын
@@LiquidRat420 this isn’t like the Godzilla fandom and Godzilla minus one, which is loved by the community but brought in a ton of people who act like there is only 2 good Godzilla films while ignoring the entire franchise. Most new fallout fans seem to be interested in fallout because of the show, and don’t have any hate for the games
@anidiot4801
3 күн бұрын
But, letting go would mean that Bethesda has to let go of the 37 gold bars in the vault :(
@cococock2418
7 күн бұрын
Bethesda isn’t fallout, never was, never will be.
@abion224
9 күн бұрын
Absolutely agree. This actually wasn't a perspective I had considered because I haven't played Fallout 1 and 2. But I did always find it strange that the enclave and super mutants had poor development and even the brotherhood seemed tacky in both the show and games. But I think I just figured it was something that would come be explained or be fixed in a later game.
@adezeta7949
7 күн бұрын
Prediction: At the end of the second season of the fallout tv show the bos will control new vegas
@ryszakowy
6 күн бұрын
or vegas will be completely destroyed because todd howard has a hate boner for real fallouts and is still salty that new vegas was better than anything bethesda made since morrowind
@CenoriaWoah
2 күн бұрын
@@ryszakowy Schizoposting rn. Todd doesn’t hate New Vegas, Todd doesn’t have as much control as you think and is not some boogeyman trying to ruin Fallout. It’s an entire company making these mistakes and they clearly like New Vegas, it got in the show as opposed to the Capital Wasteland or Commonwealth. The show writers clearly love the old games more than Bethesda’s Fallout. Get a grip and actually think about it. Why would he hate New Vegas? It only benefited him.
@owloko1349
6 сағат бұрын
I think the series shows perfectly how Bethesda sees the Fallout World, shiny and "so crazy", and only 5 people are actually importante
@skaldbjorn2212
18 сағат бұрын
Thing that pisses me off about the series is that they make no mention of Arroyo or Vault City or New Reno. As if they retconned most of fallot 2 as well.
@dovadovi
8 күн бұрын
I’m surprised I was playing this at the background. It felt like seven minutes, but it turns out I’ve been watching a 40 minute video?!
@slayride136
7 күн бұрын
i was playing HOI4 while playing the video and i didn't realized it lasted 40 minutesl ol
@maximus4765
7 күн бұрын
As I see it, Autumn wanted to control the capital wasteland with the area as dependent on the Enclave for purified water. So to be in the position the brotherhood is implied to be in during 4, so that the Enclave can rebuild from the ground up rather than top down via extermination as Eden and 2's Enclave wanted.
@webbyoyster
7 сағат бұрын
The Dead Money theme of "letting go" is us wanting Bethesda to let go of Fallout, meanwhile Bethesda is the player dragging themselves out of the Sierra Madre with all the gold (them running the ip into the ground)
@JURASSICLEGO777
6 күн бұрын
Not letting you help autumn is the greatest mistake and crime against fallout that Bethesda have committed. I like the enclave (as you can tell) but I was really disappointed that I couldn’t help the good one. The lack of moral depth and development of factions in fallout games made by Bethesda is appalling.
@PZ_Lima
8 күн бұрын
12:45 this is where I believe that the east coast chapter is the super goodie brotherhood from tactics. They are way closer to the east coast, so I think they are lore accurate but still very shallow.
@Jeebz3000
7 күн бұрын
That makes a lot of sense. Because if you remember, in The Pitt DLC, you’re told how the Brotherhood was making their way to DC ON FOOT from somewhere and passed through Pittsburgh, cutting through swathes of the mutants there. It’s pretty likely they are the same Brotherhood faction from Chicago without outright stating it.
@Chubbyhero
7 күн бұрын
@@Jeebz3000 i dont think so, purely for 3 reasons 1) the midwest chapter have different power armour 2) the midweat chapter are actually good people and have mutants, super mutants and deathclaws on their side. AND they dont do it out of kindness but out of a knowledge taht excuolsionism will lead to the westcoasts downfall (i love the show but retconning the western downfall by saying "um actually they let ppl in now" sucks) 3) the midwest were weakend after their brutal holy war agaisnt an enemy more advanced than them
@raggedy3759
3 күн бұрын
@@ChubbyheroMidwest only accept ghouls, the "accepting" ending eith super mutants and deathclaws is one possible ending. Dagger squad, the players unit, can accept nonhumans but the Midwest brotherhood does not
@consciencexp116
8 күн бұрын
Best thing Bethesda could have done was to have their own Fallout universe set apart from the Interplay one. That way they'd have the creative freedom to do what they want without lore restraints. As for new factions, if they want to reference the old ones, they could have people related to or former members of those factions that broke away due to ideological disagreements.
@christopherlittleton8179
8 күн бұрын
I think where the show really could have took inspiration is in the dlc content we’ve been shown. Or even in the folklore exploration in 76, fallout 3’s swamp, etc. I think even throwing the show as an anthology would have captured the same essence of the game , they showed they could partially. It feels like a xerox of a xerox just like going from 2 to 3
@crayonchomper1180
8 күн бұрын
Fallout 4's super mutants are all FEV experiments created by the Institute using the people the institute kidnapped and replaced with synths, the reason they were released was two fold; too resource intensive to keep locked up and it was another experiment opportunity sure it feels lazy but it makes sense
@ryszakowy
6 күн бұрын
no it doesn't FEV shoud not be in institute at all why make supermutants in the first place why release them at all if institute claims to be working for betterment of humanity it's completely stupid and makes no sense definetly lazy tho i agree there
@crayonchomper1180
6 күн бұрын
@@ryszakowy Shawn's an idiot so it's in character
@cryptotugboat7753
5 күн бұрын
@@ryszakowywasn’t the institute built under some university? it’s likely that the institute had some fev from before the war because they were helping the government research and make it
@dangi6516
4 күн бұрын
It's stupid because super mutants are a threat to the Institute itself, like super mutants are literally in the university over their head
@raggedy3759
Күн бұрын
@cryptotugboat7753 Wes-tek developed the FEV, and though they were a govt contractor they were not "the government", and I doubt it's something they would be sharing with anybody. Especially a university most well known for its technical rather than medical accomplishments
@drrockstar4040
8 күн бұрын
I turned up my volume and your speaking quietly loudly
@Jadeus231
8 күн бұрын
I totally agree It's hard to let go and Bethesda shows that in their games and the New TV show, a big indicator of this is the way they keep the Wasteland in a state of constant "Apocalypse" instead of "Post-Apocalypse"
@jokroast6912
4 күн бұрын
It was implied that Shady sands already had cold fusion. That they 'lost' it when they lost shady sands. That could have been what was blown up by hank to destroy shady sands.
@ethanmiller631
6 сағат бұрын
the fallout show would've been better if they labelled it as not canon or an "alternative" unniverse
@lapine.mp4lapine.mp350
9 күн бұрын
i hate the show not just for all of the crappy retcons but for also just being a terrible show overall
@Clarkamadorian
8 күн бұрын
I agree the lore implications are bad, and that it’s not very... classic-fallout-like, but as a show separate from all expectations, I think it was good if not amazing. I don’t get why people are so weird about it. I had a friend who hated the ghoul, they said it was “too edgy,” I just don’t understand it, fallout’s always had a certain degree of edge. I liked the show overall.
@Clarkamadorian
8 күн бұрын
All of its writing problems ultimately stem from trying to bring back dying factions and killing off developed, interesting ones.
@ytmld
8 күн бұрын
honestly I wouldn’t have such a bad taste for the show if only todd howard wasn’t so obsessed with the brotherhood and the enclave, and didn’t ruin the west coast storyline in the way
@emeryduhgamer
8 күн бұрын
I only hate the show for one reason, and that’s showing a dilapidated and destroyed Vegas in the end. That is my only reason. I hate the show for that one very specific reason, because House was the best thing for the wasteland (other than a large and well established Minutemen) that is post-war America. House was both smart enough, well enough equipped, and had a great plan for what needed to be done, and they fucked it all up.
@zhop951
8 күн бұрын
@@Clarkamadorian The issue is the factions have no motivation outside of acquiring power, this is a very common pitfall when writing. Power alone is not a good motivation, you need your characters and factions to have a goal in mind that will make use of that power. Also there are a number of internal contradictions within the show, like why does Moldaver use raiders to take over the vault when she has the backing of the NCR remnants, why doesn't the ghoul one-shot Maximus if he knew about the T-60's weak spot, how didn't everyone in Vault 33 piece together that every overseer has been from 31, the list goes on and on. I imagine a second watch would ruin the show for you, because you have the knowledge from later episodes.
@joeunicornio3874
8 күн бұрын
AHH I LITERALLY HAD A CONVERSATION LIKE THIS 2 DAYS AGO
@breezysongss
8 күн бұрын
Opening and closing of the video had a smile on my face. Fantastic job my guy 😁
@Larchy
10 сағат бұрын
Alright so the entire fallout TV show rant is on the same level of Pyrocinicals criticisms of the show
@-Some-Guy-
7 күн бұрын
What’s your hud color settings for fallout 4 it looks like the green is a little darker and I like it
@Blank55600
9 күн бұрын
Just consume product. Don't worry about the lore.
@astartes3280
8 күн бұрын
Todd, is that you?
@adezeta7949
7 күн бұрын
No todd, i don't want more bos shit
@gabrielrichards3716
6 күн бұрын
Emil leave
@Dfoskdty
4 күн бұрын
Fallout never had good lore.
@gabrielrichards3716
4 күн бұрын
@@Dfoskdty ¿que?
@davidcastillo4141
17 сағат бұрын
0:50 its funny everyone agrees that’s the courier instead of justa MCR Ranger
@georgecastanza6712
3 күн бұрын
I think the over arching problem is that Bethesda thematically and cannonically wrote them selves into a corner a long time ago. And instead of trying to fix that they opted out by just acting like the universe WAS ALWAYS a joke rather than a dark sci fi universe of dark themes with splotches of quirky moments throughout. Bethesda became too greedy,cocky and overly self aware while simultaneously not being self aware enough. I don’t think the fallout franchise is gonna get better moving forward. Just more simplified and easily accessible. This is going to be the downfall and rise of fallout. Mark my words.
@jangergur
8 күн бұрын
29:57 LITERALLY YES 30:52 he was most likely heading to Mr House because at the end of the show he's outside New Vegas looking at the Lucky 38
@Nikolai1939
4 күн бұрын
Correction: Bethesda needs to let go
@18KaratRunOfBadLuck
3 күн бұрын
Absolutely GOATED video, articulating everything I felt playing these games over and over again so perfectly
@owloko1349
7 сағат бұрын
Funny how new vegas is the last game that actually tried to introduce new important factions
@danb4900
8 күн бұрын
BEAR AND BULL AND BEAR AND BULL AND BEAR AND BULL
@EmperorAmbrose
8 күн бұрын
I really don't think the Power Armor on the cover of FO1 represents the brotherhood. The brotherhood armor clearly has their emblem on their shoulder, while the armor on the cover does not.
@zhop951
8 күн бұрын
None of the covers have faction emblems, but we can still draw that connection because of how widely that faction uses that armor.
@EmperorAmbrose
3 күн бұрын
@@zhop951 i guess everyone who wears combat armor is from the van graffs then, right?
@zhop951
3 күн бұрын
@@EmperorAmbrose No but not everyone who wears T-51 is from the BoS either, but if a Fallout game cover featured a dude in specifically Black Combat armor, we could expect to see a powerful Van Graff presence. Unless of course Bethesda forgets the Van Graffs exist, of course.
@QueenJosu
7 күн бұрын
Honestly? I don't really interact with the Fallout community at all because I learned from a young age just how reactionary people were and how much they mostly ever only cared about "rule of cool", but I won't lie. This is a well-spoken breakdown of these factions. Could do with much deeper analysis but that would be hours long hahaha. Good video, man. Here's hoping this amazing series gets a fresh new chapter it's been needing.
@Passageofsky
5 күн бұрын
Yk what I think is the saddest part is the that the high quality of 'The Pitt' from 3, and 'Far Harbour' from 4 are excellent and creative but weren't the usual or typical setting, respectively... as a result, not the maingame locations and just expansion packs/dlcs...
@YllibD
9 күн бұрын
Couldn't t agree more it's turned into shit now as of 76
@theextracrispycolonel9502
8 күн бұрын
Fallout 4 does a fair amount of things well IMO, despite being held down by Bethesda's idea of what fallout "must be;" -Gatorclaws. Similar to the deathclaw, but an original take with new wildlife ne parts of the US. -The Gunners. A PMC that's more professional than raiders, with an interesting potential to be a "bad guy minutemen?" -Danse and the brotherhood. Paladin Danse and the BoS work for part of the overall conflict of "science vs humanity" that fallout 4 claims to present, with Danse's synth truth contrasting his undying loyalty to an organization that has chisen to slaughter synths without hesitation. That being said, the BoS could have been kept as a small chapter with a new elder, have some references to an Elder Maxon, and have them be a faction that can assist during the final march on the institute. -Supermutants as a whole in 4 are, i could argue, intentionally bland, as they are just the Institute's garbage. The institute just makes supermutants and throws them out for no reason beyond "doin it for the vine." There is no culture, no structure, no purpose. The institute made them, and gave them no culture or other purpose, so they just let them go. It's an example of the Institute's callous attitude to the Commonwealth they hide from. IMO it makes more sense than how super mutants appeared in fallout 3.
@ryansarafin12
2 күн бұрын
Hoping for Emil and BGS to do something that's genuinely good is setting yourself up for disappointment. And as a BGS fan that's just sad to say
@OscoBosco
5 күн бұрын
You should have known we wouldn’t let them let go when we all found a way to get all the gold bars out of the madre
@gnusch3109
8 күн бұрын
Black Isle & Obsidian tried to write worlds that feel real and believable. Bethesda tries to recycle the same moments again and again and again beacause they know "fans" (Funko Pop addicts) will buy anything with a Vault Boy on it... Art by made with Passion and "Art" made by comittee.... After all this time, even when if it's hard, it's time for me to let Bethesda go.
@evanorsomething909
8 күн бұрын
28:42 I’m pretty sure that was the joke 32:33 the fall of shady sands is not the destruction. NV isn’t decanonized.
@stormhought
8 күн бұрын
Then what does "the fall" even mean? It seemed perfectly fine when mentioned in NV.
@evanorsomething909
8 күн бұрын
@@stormhought probably something to do with the sign mentioning “the first Capitol of the NCR”, indicating that something occurred to need it to be moved. Or that could be referring to the city of NCR, which was a renamed Shady Sands, and this shady sands is a new city to carry on the history of the old one due to it being in a different geography or something. (Or simply the writers didn’t care)
@bumblebee_vibes2073
8 күн бұрын
Shady sands was like blown up, a whole pit
@zhop951
8 күн бұрын
@@evanorsomething909 Honestly I still think it's odd the town's name was changed to NCR, it causes a lot of confusion, especially when it gets mentioned in New Vegas as Shady Sands. That's one piece of FO2 lore that could use a retcon or at least a better explanation. Like maybe the town is called "NCR" on official documents, but everyone still calls it Shady Sands or something like that. Either way it wouldn't make sense to build *another town* called Shady Sands in the middle of the Boneyard, that'd just pile on more confusion. As for your original point: the problem is the chalkboard isn't the *only* piece of lore that points towards 2277 as the day it got nuked. Lucy originally claims her mom died in "the Great Plague of '77" which is a lie she was told of course, but Hank wouldn't have a reason to lie about the year (especially considering how hard it'd be to lie about it). So in all likelihood, Lucy's mom died that year (or more accurately, was ghoulified that year), thus that is the year Shady Sands got nuked.
@evanorsomething909
8 күн бұрын
@@zhop951 I kinda agree here. There quite a few annoying conflicting things about the date. maybe the characters are unreliable narrators, maybe Hank took the kids and waited to drop the bomb, ( granted that would be kinda stupid but im *trying* to make sense of all this), or maybe Lucy misremembered the date of the plague, or (what I think is the most likely, if anything), the fact that she doesn’t directly say her mom died per say. Just that *People Starved, My mom included, my dad dropped to be 128Lb*. This could be a miss-wording by the writers with unintended meaning, though the year would still be an odd coincidence Or simply someone messed up the date on the prop and they just worked around it being too lazy to fix it and didn’t think about it too much (Date mistakes have happened before in some films) I don’t really think the writers purposefully didn’t care about the lore, because if they didn’t they probably would not have included a character Frederick Sinclair in the show (unless it was at the request of someone else who did care) But going off of what Todd Howard said, the canon is that it dropped in 82. It could be expanded upon in season 2 in someway. But I still stand by saying NV is decanonized by this is silly, New Vegas, Sinclair, and Mr House are right there.
@slayride136
7 күн бұрын
BOS is basically the female twitch streamer for Bethesda
@entity_unknown_
5 күн бұрын
Hank was going to see Mr. House obviously
@velocity1852
8 күн бұрын
DONT LISTEN TO THIS MAN FALLOUT IS NOT AN RPG!!! IT NEVER WAS!! Jk dude great video. This topics definitely been talked about but it’s always nice to see more pro-west coast fans
@mrswagpunk
7 күн бұрын
Great points all around but keep in mind, the Fallout TV show is a TV show, not a videogame. Not all the answers are given in the very first season, knowing this would at least solve some of your problems with the show.
@IdleDrifter
4 күн бұрын
The Fallout Show is terrible. It jumps around to keep those new to the franchise confused. While anyone familiar with the lore from Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas are pointing out all the flaws and plot contrivances. I don't need to watch a second season to know the writers are bunch of hacks.
@MLPDethDealr32
3 күн бұрын
So your one of those, "shut down brain, dont think, CONSUME". f*Ck off then. Your Tourism visa has expired.
@jcwlls6014
5 күн бұрын
i like most of your point but the enclave facilty is thew chicago outpost mentioned in lonesome road
@yeiven1301
8 сағат бұрын
wasn't it corrected that the shows chalkboard drawing meant that shadysands blew up some time after 2277 and not 2277 itself?
@Sosozanyway
9 күн бұрын
I think you're the one that needs to let go my guy...
@Yuta_Respecter
8 күн бұрын
Bro, the show sucks. Even if you take away the retcons to the West Coast, the writing sucks lol. Season 2 will be worse, mark my words.
@ytmld
8 күн бұрын
@Yuta_Respecter finally someone who says it for what it is. I would agree the show was a let down and it only confirms that the next entries in the franchise are probably gonna be more boring slop
@Sosozanyway
8 күн бұрын
@@ytmld luckily, you don't have to watch it, or play it.
@Sosozanyway
8 күн бұрын
@@Yuta_Respecter the writing is fine, no idea what you're talking about.
@takkorinus7909
6 күн бұрын
@@Sosozanyway How much are you paid and, if not paid, why do you like to figuratively suck the Todd?
@jakebailey5537
9 күн бұрын
Fallout 3 was released before nv, you act like it reuses shit from nv when it’s the opposite lol
@Xronis153
9 күн бұрын
Hey buddy New Vegas follows the lore, meanwhile Fallout 3 took everything from 1 and 2 and created the most idiotic excuses for being a copy of 1 and 2 cause 1+2=3. Still a good game in it's own way.
@Enysmo
9 күн бұрын
@@Xronis153 stopped reading after "hey buddy"
@heliogonzalezsanchez8227
8 күн бұрын
@@Enysmohe's right though, even though fallout 3 is enjoyable, it has a lot of problems with world building and world design in general, and the story too
@templariox32
8 күн бұрын
which is the reason i never will think NV is as good as 1 and 2, shitty engine, garbage gameplay
@mafius9264
8 күн бұрын
@@templariox32bro they had only 18 months to make their game ofc engine and gameplay is shitty 💀
@mattie4231
2 сағат бұрын
The cold fusion should have come from Big Mountain. The Think Tank literally made teleportation
@KingOfMadCows
12 сағат бұрын
Black Isle actually developed several other interesting factions for the cancelled FO3. For example, there is a faction of ghouls who are trying to build their own society in the Midwest. They have a lot of highly skilled people who have accumulated a lot of experience thanks to their long lifespan. They can live in irradiated areas regular humans can't survive. They're trying discover a way for ghouls to reproduce and they've had some success. They're becoming a powerful nation in the wasteland by focusing on the advantages of being ghouls.
@roycecooker
6 күн бұрын
Your section on FO3 has some really good ideas regarding the Enclave. As for the Brotherhood, interestingly there was a pre-Bethesda Fallout game that dealt with this Brotherhood opening up thing: Fallout Tactics. The Midwestern Brotherhood had to change their tactics due to being exiled and low on manpower. They even allowed ghouls, deathclaws, and mutants into their ranks. Depending on the ending, they can either return to their old ways and enslave mutants that ends up causing uprisings, keep their current ideology and prosper only waiting for the inevitable confrontation with the main faction, or end up having to rebuild again after the chaos of the Calculator's destruction. The second ending I mentioned even slightly differs depending on the rep you garner from interacting with tribals and actions. It was a great portrayal of a possible splinter faction of the Brotherhood and it's a shame it was only a tactical game. Of course Bethesda made it non-canon and manipulated the canon to say they failed. So anything cool from that is either gone or ambiguously canon. 🙄
@The_Big_Jay
9 сағат бұрын
9:26 "I can't get Fallout 3 footage." I like to imagine that's because he can't stand that dumpsterfire of bad writing.
@tankman5783
3 сағат бұрын
Hey the sidequests were goated
@The_Big_Jay
3 сағат бұрын
@@tankman5783 They really weren't.
@gabezekelejeune1349
7 күн бұрын
I personally think that the next fallout game should take place in the middle of the US. So that way maybe you can have some new factions. Plus maybe there could be a conflict between the super mutants from the east in the super mutants from the West. And you could have some brotherhood there since clearly the brotherhood spread from the West to the east. And a bit of enclave. I just think the main thing is that there needs to be unique new creatures like mutated alligators. I can understand the deathclaw still being in there since they were literally made to kill it makes sense might they'd be an apex predator everywhere.
@mars5914
7 күн бұрын
The thing is, you dont even need to abandon old factions when making new ones. I thought of a new faction in 10 minutes called the Neighborhood. The back story could be an ex BOS soldier like Veronica left after realizing the flaws of the BOS and establishs a community that is still heavily miltant and keeps some of the BOS codes besides the hoarding of pre war tech.
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