I will never get tired of looking at this gun. Especially this pattern.
@sir_cabbage1170
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Star Wars blaster and you can't change my mind.
@stevenbaker8184
3 жыл бұрын
I do get tired of looking at it, I want to shoot it,not just look at it!
@duncanmcgee13
3 жыл бұрын
@@sir_cabbage1170 well there were 2 Star Wars blasters based on it. The DLT-20A and the Valken-38x
@sir_cabbage1170
3 жыл бұрын
@@duncanmcgee13 makes sense
@varanid9
3 жыл бұрын
@@duncanmcgee13 Well, the DLT-20A appears to be based off of the MG-34 with a ZF-41 scope with the back half of an STG-44. The Valken is, indeed, the back half of this early FG-42 mated to the barrel assembly of an MG-42 and mounting a ZF-4 scope. Guess Lucas liked matching numbers.
@therandomguy519
3 жыл бұрын
Engineers: So do you want a marksman rifle, MG or standard battle rifle? German Army: yes.
@hukama6911
3 жыл бұрын
Luftwaffe is the airforce (was?)
@stephenbond1990
3 жыл бұрын
Luftwaffe controlled the paratroopers actually, the army would have used either the STG or at least a rifle in 7.92 kurz.
@alfredovilla8560
3 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@silubr1
3 жыл бұрын
@@hukama6911 The German airforce is still called _Luftwaffe_ (one is clearly a calque of the other, but I have no idea which is which).
@joshuarebennack68
3 жыл бұрын
@@hukama6911 Basically, if touched an aircraft it was Luftwaffe, per doctrine at the time.
@razetheraven7240
3 жыл бұрын
It looks more Star Wars'y than most recent Star Wars weapons.
@sudlander9447
3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!
@MilitaryHistory2011
3 жыл бұрын
They're not even trying with modern star wars weapons anymore. Literally just AR platforms and g36cs with the stocks removed. I miss the days when star wars weapons had at least 3 scopes...
@imperialbricks1977
3 жыл бұрын
They put the FG-42 in Star Wars Battlefront 2 as the default sniper rifle for the Clone Specialist. It has the barrel and shroud of an MG-42, but it's clearly an FG first and foremost.
@sudlander9447
3 жыл бұрын
They add a lot of ww2 weapons in Star Wars
@nihluxler8823
3 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistory2011 The rifles used by rebel commandos in return of the Jedi were themselves based on ARs, but I’ll admit, most of the guns from the sequel trilogy look either like shitty toy guns or tasteless Frankenstein monstrosities crafted by incompetent cosplayers.
missing your contributions to the crossout forum :)
@MrPh30
3 жыл бұрын
Sitting in a Ju52 looking at the rifle " hmm can one alter it to fit Mg belt also "?
@dinonatorful
3 жыл бұрын
Halt?
@Psiberzerker
3 жыл бұрын
@@BestWeedVideos I don't play that game any more, though. So, there's no use contributing to that Forum.
@SirFranzelot
3 жыл бұрын
@@dinonatorful halt is actually correct, hold my beer would be halte mein bier in german
@PhantomSavage
3 жыл бұрын
German Army: "So, our Parachutes are crap and we can't get our equipment where our men need it." Engineer: "Want us to make better parachutes?" German Army: "No. I want you to take all the weapons our men need and then engineer them all into one battle rifle so versatile we won't need to drop equipment anymore." Engineer: "..."
@davidchambers8697
3 жыл бұрын
It was the Luftwaffe that ran the German Parachute corps. Might explain the problems...
@aymonfoxc1442
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, but the procurement request still led to the development of a rather revolutionary weapon.
@davidchambers8697
3 жыл бұрын
@@aymonfoxc1442 Which may have equipped as much as a thousandth of the German ground forces during the war!
@aymonfoxc1442
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidchambers8697 What's your point? I didn't say it turned the tide of the war in their favour. Neither did jet fighters, V2 rockets or the experimental Mauser cannons but we still all took them, studied them and moved forward basing our new equipment on them in a great many instances. So, these sort of innovations didn't change the course war much (because of materials and tooling shortages) but they certainly changed the world and the course of history. The FG-42 and the ST44 were essentially the first assault rifles. Name one major power which didn't adopt an assault rifle (likely based heavily on these designs) after WW2...
@t.mcguire8804
3 жыл бұрын
Ha! 🤣
@chartreux1532
3 жыл бұрын
I had no Idea these existed! I was lucky to get to try an original FG-42 during a Museum-coordinated Event while i served with the Gebirgsjägerbattalion 231 "Bad Reichenhall" while in the Bundeswehr. Before that i only heard from a Familymember who served as Fallschirmjäger in WW2 (2. Fallschirmjägerdivision - Fallschirmjäger Regiment 7) about it , mainly great but also including a few small things he didn't like. He was able to use it during a Mission in Rome, Italy during September 1943. I'm sure he will enjoy to hear about this as well and i'll show him the Video. He's 97 years old now but still very fit. Prost and Cheers from the very very cold and snow-covered Berchtesgaden, Bavaria here in Germany
@onpsxmember
3 жыл бұрын
Why not point out his dislikes?
@chartreux1532
3 жыл бұрын
@@onpsxmember One he mentioned the most is that the Magazine being put in on the left side (i guess he means on the side in general) made it less accurate on farther Distance. He also said that the Bipod created certain issues which i can't recall at the top of my hat, but i'll ask him later when i drop off Groceries for him
@PrinceAlhorian
3 жыл бұрын
@@chartreux1532 please we would like to know. It's awesome to hear how the weapon functioned in the war it was designed for.
@stefanmolnapor910
3 жыл бұрын
Please continue to take care of him, Please tell him I said thank you for his service and a hand shake from me and my Family.
@willowrabbit
3 жыл бұрын
@@chartreux1532 I can imagine having 20 rounds hanging off the side and moving could make a slight tilting effect that would be challenging on follow up shots
@andreasmarsteintrdet2168
3 жыл бұрын
Well.. technically the bayonet has got a point
@FirstDagger
3 жыл бұрын
May I show you the door?
@M4nusky
3 жыл бұрын
.... there.. I gave you a "like" but I'm not happy about it :D
@andreasmarsteintrdet2168
3 жыл бұрын
@MrPitjoey You might have... missed the point.
@NewbombedTurk
3 жыл бұрын
You’ve got a sharp wit my friend
@fleezyp
3 жыл бұрын
Badum TSS 😂
@Gojiro7
3 жыл бұрын
Jesus, im shocked the Germans didn't also decree that this gun had to cook sausages, play music, and do your taxes
@Arbiter099
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielaramburo7648 the tax info can be inlaid on the z-f41s we'll issue you. Classify the guns as percussion instruments.
@Raenard
3 жыл бұрын
Almost looks like you could use the butt stock as a grill surface
@NewbombedTurk
3 жыл бұрын
I think you could fire it in full auto with the bipod folded up, and a sausage cradled inside of it to cook it quite nicely.
@andrewdriver3318
3 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find any rifle is capable of doing all those things if you point it at some one and say "cook me some sausages, play a tune, and then go do my taxes".
@varanid9
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: after a day at the range, german paratroopers would cook their sausages on the barrels while others blew through their barrels while manipulating the holes of the muzzle brake like a flute. 2 out of yet another 3 is pretty good at this point.
@fredbloggs5902
3 жыл бұрын
24:00 Author: “I’ve written a new book, it’s called ‘FG42, the Paratrooper rifle’’... Editor: “Nah, call it ‘Death from Above’, you’ll sell more”.
@coaxill4059
3 жыл бұрын
And I'm sure it has!
@AshleyPomeroy
3 жыл бұрын
"FG42: This Thing is Really Slick"
@coaxill4059
3 жыл бұрын
"Part 1: Dang"
@sawyere2496
3 жыл бұрын
@@coaxill4059 part 2: “wow”
@Betrix5060
3 жыл бұрын
My preference is to have a super slick and cool sounding title, then follow it up with a super descriptive subtitle that goes on forever. So, "Death from Above: on the origins an development of the German FG42 Paratrooper Rifle."
@mrjockt
3 жыл бұрын
Another reason for the reduction in the priority for this rifle may also have been the fact that by early 1943 the German Parachute Force had been basically reduced to an Infantry Force, mainly due to not recovering from the losses incurred at Crete, and therefor didn’t really need a specialised weapon anymore.
@devonlord99
3 жыл бұрын
Allies: “go ahead, develop your new gun, you can’t un-drop your fallschirmjager”
@CarrotConsumer
3 жыл бұрын
@Fondil Mahbols And it went just as well as Crete.
@Bokicazver
3 жыл бұрын
@Dick Izzinya Failed operation in Yugoslavia, too...
@grumblesa10
2 жыл бұрын
Well, equally relevant is Goering was on the outs, and did not have the influence to get "his" weapon(s) priority with Speer's department.
@321Isotope
3 жыл бұрын
I would be very interested in seeing that “Design History of the M60” video.
@kino_61
3 жыл бұрын
If you like to see the prototypes they're the T44, T52E3, T161
@Rileysworld727
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video on the m60 in general. I for one would love to see the full history and usage.
@408lurks
3 жыл бұрын
WELL WOULDNT WE ALL
@2adamast
3 жыл бұрын
M60 a modernized Lewis gun? Most of the top cover action of the MG42 being already present in the Lewis gun.
@DireAvenger001
3 жыл бұрын
SMG should make a modern M60
@ekscalybur
3 жыл бұрын
"This video is getting long...." Ian, do you know your audience?
@davidbowman2001
3 жыл бұрын
I always hear content creators say that but I’m always excited when there’s a long video
@Requeium
3 жыл бұрын
I watched him make like a 12 minute video talking about a rock... Didnt even notice it was an april fools joke until much later
@EddieRiggsBF3
3 жыл бұрын
@@Requeium What? I must missed that. Do you have link on that video?
@Joze1090
3 жыл бұрын
@@saintsinningsword how... how long does it take you to shave?
@notgray88
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever thought to myself, "this KZitem video is too long. I wish it ended sooner"
@wk3818
3 жыл бұрын
So the root cause of the problem was a crummy parachute design. That's like going to the doctor with a stomach bug and getting a bionic arm.
@duncanmcgee13
3 жыл бұрын
@@iatsd i wouldnt wanna be dropping with an MG34 tho
@Tunkkis
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a ChubbyEmu video.
@Stevarooni
3 жыл бұрын
@@iatsd heavy weapons, though?
@jonprince3237
3 жыл бұрын
@@iatsd Depends if you class the Vickers MG, PIAT or 3 inch mortar as heavy weapons, because all three had systems developed for jumping on the man by the British. Folding bicycles too.
@wes11bravo
3 жыл бұрын
The Germans were masters of coming up with brilliantly engineered yet unbelievably roundabout solutions to issues they had with weapons and vehicles. I'm reminded of a story about the Panther tank. It would violently backfire, spectacularly revealing their position. Did they fix the fuel issue? No. They designed and manufactured a huge flash diffuser/silencer for the exhaust!
@DerNachtmar
3 жыл бұрын
There is a wonderful word in German for something which fullfills a whole array of (impossible) requirements: "Eierlegende Wollmilchsau".
@FirstDagger
3 жыл бұрын
Ironically that word only appears in literature starting 1959.
@ianshafer64
3 жыл бұрын
Egg laying whole milk pig is a hilarious expression
As a machinist, I find that buttstock to be quite impressive.
@rafaPCPRO
3 жыл бұрын
Finally, i was looking for this comment... That was unbelievably good
@billwilson3609
Жыл бұрын
@@rafaPCPRO It also had an annoying tendency to come loose when firing.
@WALTERBROADDUS
3 жыл бұрын
This makes the M-1 Garand look like a Springfield Trapdoor.
@charlesgrybosky1916
3 жыл бұрын
I actually discovered this weapon way back when I was playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein for the PC in 2002. I figured it was some fanciful invention for the game as I’d never heard of it. Because, y’know, it’s Wolfenstein. Imagine my surprise when I found out it was not only real but an actual battle used rifle during WWII.
@alun7006
3 жыл бұрын
Good grief, that brings back memories. Such a good game! I remember using the '42 to snipe the soldiers running round the secret airfield with the flying wings!
@benwarren8722
3 жыл бұрын
What if I told you that the Snooper Rifle was real too. M3 carbine with infrared scope.
@aj1986917
3 жыл бұрын
". . . Much too heavy to drop with a paratrooper." US Army: [Laughs in 1919] US Paratroopers: [Sob in 1919]
@cericat
3 жыл бұрын
When you look at the kit the German paratroopers did drop with it gets even sadder, split amongst their drop capsules was a 75mm Leichtgeschütz 40 to be deployed for fire support. They were deployed with them at Crete and Drvar that we're pretty certain of. My recollection is they were split into 4 components as the total weight was 145 kg so about 320 lbs without ammo.
@seppshlllearningcenter419
3 жыл бұрын
1919 is heavier than the mg42 and 34 lol
@dandylion1987
3 жыл бұрын
Roses are red Violets are Blue Fallschirmjagergewehr 42
@mixererunio1757
3 жыл бұрын
Violets are blue Fallschirmjägergewehr Zweiundvierzig? That doesn't rhyme...
@hothoploink1509
3 жыл бұрын
@@mixererunio1757 Being german I actually made just that mistake when I first came across that "poem" :D
@adksherm
3 жыл бұрын
This comment was stolen...I saw this on another video! Funny though!
@japanesedog03
3 жыл бұрын
Roses are red Violets are blue *Russians are coming get the Fallschirmjagergewehr 42
@caprise-music6722
3 жыл бұрын
@@japanesedog03 should grab some Sturmgewehrs
@agrameroldoctane_66
3 жыл бұрын
This weapon was 50 years in front of it's time, what an amazing rifle.
@terrywarner8657
3 жыл бұрын
Try almost 80 years ahead of its time.
@agrameroldoctane_66
3 жыл бұрын
@@terrywarner8657 👍
@2adamast
3 жыл бұрын
Makes the Lewis gun 110 years ahead of its time?
@greekhuman8706
3 жыл бұрын
So basically the germans 80 years ago requsted their engineers just skip ahead a couple of decades of firearm developments and invent the assault rifle Mein gott
@IceWolfLoki
3 жыл бұрын
Except one hand didn't tell the other hand that it had developed an intermediate cartridge. Imagine the poor Luftwaffe procurement team when they found out about the Kurz round and MP/StG 44 just after they'd finished developing the FG-42.
@silubr1
3 жыл бұрын
@@IceWolfLoki Rivalry between different organisations and establishments was used by the Nazis to their advantage early on, but it wasn’t quite as sensible and effective later on (once they themselves had become the "establishment").
@ivanmonahhov2314
3 жыл бұрын
@Jimmy Two Times Nah , Fedorov had an idea during Russo-Japanese war
@JohnHughesChampigny
3 жыл бұрын
@@silubr1 Notably the Nazis had, AFAIR *four* nuclear weapons projects competing with each other, one being run by *the post office*.
@JohnHughesChampigny
3 жыл бұрын
@Jimmy Two Times Neither the FG42 nor the BAR are "assault rifles". The BAR is a LMG, The FG42 is a battle rifle, closer to a FAL or G3 than a AR15 or AK.
@JohnDoe-vm5rb
3 жыл бұрын
Ian shows off his new toy. Glad to see the patreon money is being spent on something so snazzy!
@pallien7501
3 жыл бұрын
The safety lever is almost identical to levers found on old lathes and milling machines.
@justindunlap1235
3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought, the old belt driven mill I learned on had a similar setup for changing quill speed
@glenpope4955
3 жыл бұрын
Well as long as it works all it needs
@infernaldaedra
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how futuristic this thing looked in the 1940s.
@nerdyspinosaurid
3 жыл бұрын
Star Wars still uses versions of it as the baseline for futuristic weapons, so I'd say probably very
@Tomahaukka
3 жыл бұрын
Requirements: All of the everything.
@JotaLoL
3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best small weapon of the 20th century alongside the stg44 considering date, features and coolness.
@alexandero9936
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, however the fg-42 is just a way more special gun. It's complexity, while nothing compared to guns like AN94 and g11 is still mesmerizing for the time, the option to fire it from both a close bolt and an open bolt without any modification is one of the several reasons that define this gun.
@4231jerome
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Germans were figuring out how to make some pretty amazing small arms towards the end of the war
@scratchy996
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the production cost of the FG-42 was compared to the MP44, and I wonder how good the FG42 would have been with a 16inch barrel (like the MP44) and 7.92 x 33 ammo. With a shorter barrel, without the bayonet and bipod, this would probably have been a very nice assault rifle.
@johnfrench5279
3 жыл бұрын
@@scratchy996 The modified FG42 you described did actually exist. The German Army arms testing organisation converted an unknown number of FG42 trials rifles into that configuration in an effort to get the para's interested in the Kurtz cartridge. The para's, still smarting from the long-range hammering they got on Crete, remained uninterested in any thing less capable than 8mm Mauser. The source Ian mentions "Death From Above" contains an account of a US officer who test fired one of these conversions immediately post war. Apart from accidentally shooting a horse as he didn't realise the gun was set to full auto, the account provides scant details on performance.
@scratchy996
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnfrench5279 Cool, that's interesting.
@Juel92
3 жыл бұрын
There can never be enough FG42 videos. Nor can they be too long. It has to rank as the most legendary gun ever not to see any kind of widespread service.
@maybearkamaybenot11
3 жыл бұрын
this is the most modern old rifle i have ever seen
@johncashwell1024
3 жыл бұрын
Alright Ian, we have had this issue come up before; and again I feel I must remind how we, your viewers and supporters feel about this issue: We don't care how long a "Forgottenweapons" video goes! So please, don't worry over the length, we will watch through to the end.
@trevormott8872
3 жыл бұрын
Seconded
@LN997-i8x
3 жыл бұрын
Longer videos are more time consuming to edit and render. I'd wager it has more to do with creating a lot of work for himself than it is about people leaving!
@lightly_salted_iro
3 жыл бұрын
Do you realise how cringy you come across?
@benjamindavidovichwaals2899
3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@shrimpkraken
3 жыл бұрын
@@lightly_salted_iro that was unwarranted
@wes11bravo
3 жыл бұрын
This is a work of art. Massive respect and admiration to SMG for taking this project on. I'm sure there are more complicated weapons to reproduce but I can't think of many(maybe a Japanese Type 96!)...
@snape1464
3 жыл бұрын
In the museum at Bastogne, they have originals of both variants. I was completely blown away by both the guns and just the fact that they had them, considering the rarity and value
@DerDoctor69
3 жыл бұрын
„Put the charging handle in before you put in the bolt“ Also goes for the MG3. Or as the Feldwebel who held my MG3 training put it: „Spannschieber vor Verschluss, weil der Soldat sonst laufen muss“.
@scottyjordan9023
3 жыл бұрын
They better be glad they didn’t use Hill & Mac to make these guns. The war would be over before the 1st one would be made.
@stephenduffy5406
3 жыл бұрын
This would have made an excellent Gebirgsjager Gewehr too. Sadly no “GG-42s“ were made for the mountain troops...
@kevinwestermann1001
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't they use K98k instead?
@stephenduffy5406
3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwestermann1001 yes- actually the shorter Czech designed Gewehr 33/40, but the FG42 would have fit the specialized role of the mountain troops perfectly, as well.
@ФилиппЛыков-д8е
3 жыл бұрын
16:57 Judge: "It is illegal to shoot full auto." Defendant: "Your Honor, I am a southpaw so I had to throw the switch all the way forth." Judge: "Not guilty."
@jrstoelting
3 жыл бұрын
The attention to detail on the reproduction is amazing. Very well done, down to the reproduction of the proof marks. Very cool.
@svenw688
3 жыл бұрын
Best looking rifle ever , the type C with that scope mount .. such a looker.
@737Kamikaze
3 жыл бұрын
I remember this rifle from the original Call of Duty. Would always pick it up because it had an optic on it. Haha
@UltimoMantis21
3 жыл бұрын
Same. Remember the french city with the bell tower. Right by the wall there was one all the time. Right before the car mission
@Grubnar
3 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite weapon in Wolfenstein ... I was so sad when I ran out of ammo for it.
@Beechhill
3 жыл бұрын
"Haha"
@IR4TE
3 жыл бұрын
@@Grubnar Return to Castle Wolfenstein was just awesome and this weapon kicked some ass.
@FirstDagger
3 жыл бұрын
Day of Defeat on Half-Life Gold Source, good times
@peterandykeith
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making content Iain. Really appreciate the effort that goes in!
@wyatthausman4377
3 жыл бұрын
Woahhhh that's some serious kraut space magic. Could put that straight into star wars and nobody would blink.
@razetheraven7240
3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for years now, but today, for the very first time in my life I fired a gun myself. I did quite good and actually knew a little bit about pistols and rifles I shot thanks to you. It made me very happy and I will visit my nearby range again soon. (It's so expensive though. :) )
@dthayer1045
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you still stick to your original presentation style. I've been a fan for yrs now
@MrLoobu
3 жыл бұрын
"Can you just skip a couple decades of R&D and make some assault rifles for these paratroopers?" "Da"
@sockmon1
3 жыл бұрын
@@iatsd nyet
@MrLoobu
3 жыл бұрын
@@iatsd Because Im neither, tried to be a smart ass ended up a dumbass lol. In my defense, Ive been losing IQ points daily trying to exist in 2020-2021 through no fault of my own lol.
@sebastianriz4703
3 жыл бұрын
Cant blame you for getting stupider OP. Corona is so stupid its more contagious then the actual virus
@MrLoobu
3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianriz4703 haha thanks I appreciate the solidarity and understanding!
@stjjames
3 жыл бұрын
‘Couple of decades’? There were FAL prototypes, chambered in 7.92 Kurz- in 1946. Hell, AR-10’s even made it to the US Army’s 1956 rifle trials.
@WarDogMadness
3 жыл бұрын
my deaf ears: Germany didn't have a good supply of allies. apone reply: no alloys.. my head oh : yeah that too
@FirstDagger
3 жыл бұрын
Both are true though.
@mr.nobody2191
3 жыл бұрын
And the Germany allies that were close enough to be useful had barely anything to fight with
@WarDogMadness
3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.nobody2191 shortages and hiding innovation with requisition orders, and a lot of DIY weapons were a constant running theme during the war.
@ExtraVictory
3 жыл бұрын
What allies lmfao. Pretty sure Germany was doing the "solo the rest of the planet" challenge by continually starting wars with more industrialized powers
@r.9158
3 жыл бұрын
Finally over 2M subscribers! Congratulations! I remember first finding your channel years and years ago and being shocked that you only had a few thousand. It's nice to see such a significant channel dedicated to the preservation of firearms history pushing the numbers it deserves. Keep up the incredible work!
@QoraxAudio
3 жыл бұрын
My favourite historical LMG. FG42 MKI with the funky angled handle.
@joshyoder871
3 жыл бұрын
Getting flashback to Return to Castle Wolfenstein! The FG 42 was one of the best weapons in the game, but the ammo was limited until the last couple of levels.
@dertyp6849
3 жыл бұрын
great, like when you have two options, one is changing the design of your parachute so that you can send down soldiers with their proper rifles, or just invent a completely new rifle, of course you pick the new rifle. I don't understand the history of my country sometimes....
@AsbestosMuffins
3 жыл бұрын
not always so easy since you'd have to change the parachutes, bags, possibly airplanes, the manufacturing process, and also training as well as ensuring the new parachute works, not something you can easily accomplish under war time pressure. Plus germany was done paratrooping by the middle of the war
@dertyp6849
3 жыл бұрын
@@AsbestosMuffins It still seems easier than demanding a rifle with these mad requirements, also needing a new manufacturing process, development, possibly new tooling etc. Germany being done parachuting in the middle of the war is also an argument against the fg42, since it was not necessary for other soldiers to have such a rifle ( bc to be honest, it is a great rifle but it's like a multitool: it can sort of do everything, but nothing really well like others)
@demodude6865
3 жыл бұрын
Le german engineers back then : "changing the parachute? Booooooooring" "how bout a seemingly impossible request of a gun from the luftwaffe? " "You had me at "impossible""
@nordmannodinson6984
3 жыл бұрын
The Decision to put the effort in developing a new rifle was right. Because even when you changed, the parachute design, you just cannot jump with some weapons, for example an LMG. So designing a gun, that is capable off being a marksman rifle, LMG in full and semi auto was game changing. Not even for the Paratroopers, but also for the rest of the Army. This and the Stg44 were far in the future. Because you could give the men rifles, that could do multiple jobs
@IceWolfLoki
3 жыл бұрын
The new parachute guys didn't have the right connections. Plus fancy gun is much sexier than fancy parachute.
@paddy2019
3 жыл бұрын
Did Ian ever get his hands on the Kreighoff submission to the trial? I'd love to get a close look at that rifle.
@fredbloggs5902
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty amazing that they can mill the stock and achieve the same weight as the original pressing.
@artcamp7
3 жыл бұрын
as an engineer or designer, even if you aren't into guns, you have to admire the design of this weapon
@davydovua
3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me I ain't the only one who wishes to see Ian run a 2 gun match with an FG-42
@yosarianilivestech4018
3 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/02Z9l3unk6akln4
@stjjames
3 жыл бұрын
Heck, even I’ve been at a 2 gun match with Ian- where an FG42 was being ran. 🤷🏼♂️
@alun7006
3 жыл бұрын
Desert Brutality 2020.
@davydovua
3 жыл бұрын
@@yosarianilivestech4018 Thanks! I dunno how I've managed to miss that one
@stjjames
3 жыл бұрын
@@alun7006 Tiger Valley 2-man, in my case.
@gianlucamalvasi7007
3 жыл бұрын
Not weapons related but... Ian I really wanna thank you for your work 'cause you really help me (and i'm sure tons of other people) get through really really rough days. Getting this cool pieces of history ecc... really helps me not get stuck on the usual alienating problems. Thank you very much Ian and keep up the good work
@mikepette4422
3 жыл бұрын
Was always fascinated with the iron sight drum but that scope is amazing looking.
@fatcat3211
3 жыл бұрын
Coolest gun ever shown on Forgotten Weapons.
@ludgy7278
3 жыл бұрын
That grip is like "do you want a pistol grip or rifle grip?" Germany: YES
@notgraham.7215
3 жыл бұрын
10 more degrees back and it's California compliant
@ronniepriveprofiel3876
3 жыл бұрын
i always assumed it was to reduce the vertical profile, sounded usefull for a paratrooper while landing..
@edi9892
3 жыл бұрын
@@ronniepriveprofiel3876 I've heard that before, but the steeper angle was better for recoil control.
@cericat
3 жыл бұрын
@@ronniepriveprofiel3876 that's always been my thinking knowing how much hassle handling guns while on a chute could get for them. But no documentary evidence as to the why alas.
@TheWirksworthGunroom
3 жыл бұрын
Astonishing amount of work to put this into small scale production from scratch. A remarkable achievement.
@MojoNFE
3 жыл бұрын
"This Bayonet is stupid and pointless" Looks very pointed to me......
@agustinperretta1043
3 жыл бұрын
Always loved the FG, it looks so special and when fires it's so impressive and distinctive. Would love to shoot one someday but I'm sure it will never happen
@malarkey5323
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the FG-42
@coreyortiz7149
Ай бұрын
Ian, I love your channel since learning of it. You are the Bob Ross of firearm history. I love your info and insight, and such a calming mammerism. I sure appreciate you, my fellow Scott.
@nordmannodinson6984
3 жыл бұрын
This gun is even for today standards superb!
@thelastjohnwayne
3 жыл бұрын
The Engineering of this rifle is truly amazing
@noneofyourbusiness3288
3 жыл бұрын
Make an impossible rifle, rather than improving parachutes slightly seems like a very German solution xD also: this thing looks remarkably modern for a ww2 gun imo. Very neat look.
@njannjannja2010
2 жыл бұрын
. . . . . . . wieso, ist das längliche Teil nicht der Fallschirm? Grüße
@extramild1
3 жыл бұрын
That is a thing of beauty.
@jonnyblade3234
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to have this level of quality in an STG 44 reproduction
@keithallardice6139
3 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating firearm and the repro looks top-notch! Enjoy!!
@thatguy4336
3 жыл бұрын
1:41 “...it needs to replace the MG34 which is much too heavy and bulky to drop with a paratrooper.” *Laughs while jumping M240B*
@ScottKenny1978
3 жыл бұрын
Try jumping with the 240 when you're so close to the ground that you get one swing under the chute before you land. Oh, wait. That's with a chute that opens so fast that it will rip a Kar98k off it's sling.
@randomidiot8142
3 жыл бұрын
@@ScottKenny1978 you're busy on here, any data on physical injuries from chutes snapping the body around during chute deployment or opening slightly too late to keep the jumper from splatting? It remains a classic example of germans overengineering a complex problematic solution out of a simple issue.
@ScottKenny1978
3 жыл бұрын
@@randomidiot8142 not that I have available. Those records may not have survived the War, and the online records seem to concentrate on where the FJ fought, not how.
@ScottKenny1978
3 жыл бұрын
@@randomidiot8142 if anyone does have those records, it is probably the 82nd airborne historians, the US did pick up a few FJ after the war.
@billwilson3609
Жыл бұрын
I once worked with a former German POW that was a paratrooper during WW2. Said he enlisted to become a pilot but was told his eyesight was too poor so decided to jump out of aircraft instead. He mentioned being issued a fancy looking semi-automatic rifle that nobody liked because the butt stock would come loose while firing, so one had to tighten the screws before resuming shooting. Decades later I was reading a book about WW2 infantry weapons used by each nation with their attributes and drawbacks. It showed the FG-42 and mentioned that it had an annoying habit of the buttstock coming loose during firing so many were "lost" (discarded) by their users during battle.
@FUBAR8472
3 жыл бұрын
Did the bayonet cap have that little hole to help when soldiers were being soldiers?
@ShootAUT
3 жыл бұрын
Looks it doesn't snap on, but you have to twist to lock/unlock it, so German soldiers wouldn't be able to stick their rifles together permanently. Yet, if the originals were as loose as on this reproduction, they'd lose the bayonet even before getting any stupid ideas. In a way, Germany has implemented two solutions for that particular problem. XD
@Kentucky_Blue
3 жыл бұрын
Accessories with variable positions and well-designed latches, buttons, and springs to change them. Great stuff.
@jakublulek3261
3 жыл бұрын
And I thought that Germany came out with brilliant solution for theyr paratrooper problems: stopped using them as paratroopers.
@IceWolfLoki
3 жыл бұрын
Well to use them as paratroopers you have to be able to get them in the air in the first place and towards the end of the war they could barely get interceptors into the air.
@jakublulek3261
3 жыл бұрын
@@IceWolfLoki I think Crete was the last big German paratrooper operation of WWII. After that, they mostly fought as elite infantry.
@cericat
3 жыл бұрын
@@jakublulek3261 pretty much though the 500th SS--Fallschirmjäger did deploy in 44 at Drvar going after Tito. That's the last time I can think of that Germans used parachute and glider deployment. Vercors was Kampfgeschwader 200 that the French resistance faced, we don't know a lot about them generally still, one of the times German recording keeping has failed us.
@Xerxes1688
3 жыл бұрын
This first model also has a stripper clip guide, and since it has a manual bolt hold open device, this makes it easier to top the magazine off with 5 round stripper clips or loose rounds. Also, the scope mount has a bit of a quirk. This was explained by SMG in a video, in order to attach the scope you just don't slide the mount in and turn the locking dial clockwise, you have to lift the rear sight up just a little bit, and then you can slide the mount completely in and turn the dial to lock everything nice and securely. At 11:35 you can notice that the rear sight is slightly tilted up. This is done to give the scope mount an extra of locking surface. The edge of the locking portion of the mount has a bevel, that wedges between the semi circular plate and the squared base of the rear sight. The 2nd pattern FG-42 not only uses the ZF4 scope, but also has a different mount, with two locking dials.
@JG54206
3 жыл бұрын
This gun is just incredible. Really shows how incredible their technology was at the time. So many things so far ahead of their time.
@MarksmanTV
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll have mine in a few weeks - so excited!
@DrBunnyMedicinal
3 жыл бұрын
*checks to see if Ian has 'accidentally' included a link to tomorrow's shooting vid again* *is disappointed* *this time*
@kennmikos9120
3 жыл бұрын
The video of him shooting it has been up for a bit, I saw it last week I think.
@rong1924
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently they also foresaw the California restriction on pistol grips where "the web of the thumb extends below the action of the trigger."
@utubeisCensorred
3 жыл бұрын
My internal monologue: "That looks like a PU scope".... Ian tells me exactly that is based on a PU scope.
@smittywerben3400
3 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. McCollum, i wanted to thank you for your great KZitem Channel and the work you are doing here. Since many years i am a fan of Forgotten Weapons and i learned a lot from viewing your videos. In Germany we call these kind of things (in this case a rifle) "eierlegende Wollmilchsau". In fact there is a company here in Germany called Sport-Systeme-Dittrich that makes almost exact copies of WW2 guns like the FG42. Although these guns a very pricy. If you ever have the chance to come to Germany a recommend that you visit the weapons museum in the town of Suhl. This is maybe the best weapon museum in Germany and great for research work. Greetings from Germany
@77gravity
3 жыл бұрын
Wartime: stamped parts! Peacetime: we'll have to mill it to look like it was stamped.
@AlphaNumericKey
3 жыл бұрын
Making the stamping machinery would require resource investment you can only use to stamp these guns, but with a milling machine you can do almost anything.
@77gravity
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaNumericKey Stamping is faster and cheaper, and requires fewer skilled machinists. No CAD or CNC then. And by changing dies, you can stamp more than just guns. In fact, the usual process was that peacetime machines were converted to make guns, it was not an urgent thing to convert them back to making washing machines.
@Mrgunsngear
3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@gamerpigeonakafbi8210
3 жыл бұрын
I really like how this gun looks, it’s the perfect middle ground between a realistic looking gun and laser blaster
@rldickie
3 жыл бұрын
That is one aesthetically pleasing weapon.
@philmerrifield1163
3 жыл бұрын
The actual literal translation to the rifle is actually Parachute hunter rifle (fallschirm jagger gewehr) love the content dude keep it up
@scratchy996
3 жыл бұрын
If you want to get 100% literal, it's : fall schirm jagger gewehr : Fall Umbrella Hunter Rifle :)
@michaelkensbock661
3 жыл бұрын
Only half-correct. "Jäger" does mean hunter, but in military terms, it also means skirmisher (very old) / elite soldier (kinda old) or some-kind-of-specialised-soldier (modern'ish). The german military historically got a bunch of XYZ-hunter designations, very few had much of a connection to the civilian meaning of hunter. It started out in the musket era, when the only soldiers who actually learned to aim (or needed to aim for that matter, given the quality of the guns) where the skirmishers armed with (super slow firing) rifles, and these skirmishers were often recruited from hunters because they came with pre-learned aiming skills. So they got the "Jäger" designation and they took pride in it. Others noted, and all too soon just about any kind of regiment were hunters, whether it made sense or not.
@HarrDarr
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkensbock661 Wasn't only the germans, the french with their chasseur, spanish with their cazadores, sweden, denmark, finland and norway all use their local form of jäger aswell.
@borjesvensson8661
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkensbock661 i think the best translation of jäger as a military unit is ranger. So parachute ranger.
@thelastjohnwayne
3 жыл бұрын
Roses are red and Violets are blue. We rescued Mussolini with the Fg 42.
@graham1034
3 жыл бұрын
The FG42 is such a beautiful gun. Typically German too in that it was way to expensive to produce for the intended job.
@jakedickens9240
3 жыл бұрын
Knew there was something familiar about the look of this; was my weapon of choice in RtCW. Super cool to see the reality behind it!
@mafiosomemer3730
3 жыл бұрын
This evolved into the M60: *"GET SOME! GET SOME!"*
@Fire_truck_man
3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 2 million subs Ian!
@mistergrendel32
3 жыл бұрын
This must be Ian’s personal rifle if SMG installed a brass deflector for him? I too am left handed, but shooting a rifle left handed would seem totally whacked! 🤓
@panzerabwerkanone
3 жыл бұрын
It is.
@mistergrendel32
3 жыл бұрын
@@panzerabwerkanone I guess gun Jesus must be left eye dominant?
@chrissilsby4312
3 жыл бұрын
When the video is full of information about the single weapon, the time flies by, next thing you know, it's a about a 1/2 hour. Cool gun that is cheaper then a "REAL THING"
@broworm1
3 жыл бұрын
Bayonets are never pointless, Ian.
@randomnobodovsky3692
3 жыл бұрын
I can see your point.
@Tony-dh7mz
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Bayonets are cutting edge
@ForgottenWeapons
3 жыл бұрын
Touche
@Tony-dh7mz
3 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenWeapons Touche? I think its spelled "Touchy" I'm never touchy I get called "Philistine" all the time, but I've never been near the Gaza strip, You don't see me getting upset
@JohnHughesChampigny
3 жыл бұрын
@@Tony-dh7mz It's actually spelt touché.
@TriadAgone
3 жыл бұрын
Wow the stamping on the rear of that receiver is BEAUTIFUL
@CommentConqueror
3 жыл бұрын
i wonder if they ever considered redesigning the chutes......
@IceWolfLoki
3 жыл бұрын
But then how would you get someone to design a magic rifle?
@sebastianriz4703
3 жыл бұрын
Well A) Germans. B) I dunno of fixing the parachutes would fix the issue. A big issue with parajumping is if you jump with heavy items, you stand the risk of injuring yourself on your heavy items. It was better to have your weapons get dropped in on a seperate platform from you. Granted I aint a WWII weapons and equipment expert. Dark Age/Feudal Age is more of my expertice.
@ScottKenny1978
3 жыл бұрын
The Germans were worried about dispersion during the drop. Scatter happens, and the higher up you jump the more scatter you have to deal with. Remember, *none* of the WW2 chutes were steerable. So you wanted to jump from as low as possible. The Germans jumped from such a low altitude that a US chute would not fully open before the trooper hit the ground! So they needed super-fast opening chutes. The faster a chute opens, the more violently it opens. And the FJ 'chutes opened so fast that they'd rip a Kar98k off it's sling.
@chrispaul9035
3 жыл бұрын
Grandfather of 4 of my children was in Composite Batallion, Prison Valley, Maleme Area, Crete May 1941. Prewar he had been shooting rabbits off the back of a horse in Queens Town NZ with a single shot 0.22" rifle. He fought as an Open Sights Sniper and his unit took 80 %, casualties. The German Paratroopers fared badly and about 6,000 from the 20,000 dropped became deceased. The Bren guns concentrated on the Cannisters. Unfortunately, the Kiwi Leadership blundered and Crete was lost.
@KVW22
3 жыл бұрын
Moving to a more gun-friendly state soon, can't wait, I want one of these so badly. Great video, thank you for all of your hard work!
@ScottKenny1978
3 жыл бұрын
They're spendy. $6k or $6500, I forget. They're also apparently worth it (I haven't saved up for one yet)
@stephenbond1990
3 жыл бұрын
Larry Vickers video shooting an original first pattern remains one of my favourite videos on KZitem.
@AtholAnderson
3 жыл бұрын
With the FG-42s, I've always wondered how prone to damage those tall iron were to damage while in use?
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