1:02 Selby's shot 3:34 Replay 3: slow motion 4:58 Replay 4: zoomed-in 6:18 Analysis 7:53 More drama
@191246mann1
3 жыл бұрын
-makes little difference who is right or wrong if the ref is in doubt like it was too close to call it's foul.
@Nagash-ol3oe
3 жыл бұрын
@@191246mann1 Sry, but I think you are wrong, because to my knowledge the rules say, if its too "close to call", then the call has to be "correct shot".
@191246mann1
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nagash-ol3oe yes I am working from the old rules when I did some reffing it may well have changed to the other way round now but it makes little difference as it is up to the ref to say too close to call and then do it your way ,,,and not to have all this arguing about it.,,too close to call is the end of it your way or mine.,,,thanks for the reply.
@roberttaylor6577
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nagash-ol3oe snooker cannot and should not be allowed to go down this path especially with today’s technology
@prabesh8277
3 жыл бұрын
What's the ending music though? Do not miss that.
@sovsordie4513
3 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with everyone, he definitely hit the white ball first.
@neilgriffiths6427
3 жыл бұрын
You're what in Wales we would call, "A funny f^cker." Lol.
@prog3142
3 жыл бұрын
😆
@unforgettablejazzfusion5546
3 жыл бұрын
hahjahjahahahaahhahah
@sovsordie4513
3 жыл бұрын
@@neilgriffiths6427 Fine with that mate...I've been called plenty worse! Haha :D
@michaelfolan2540
3 жыл бұрын
Very funny from any country , ,
@amiraliyan
3 жыл бұрын
5:11 What can be used as a clue is the deviation of white's path. If you see carefully, its deviation can be only explained if it hit red first.
@ColinWatters
3 жыл бұрын
Thats a good call.
@theobolt250
3 жыл бұрын
Which ball moves first. That's the ball that's hit first. That be the red ball. Albeit slow, because the white only brushed it. But red first (slight brush) then the pink (hard, almost full ball). So the rev made initially the wrong call.
@QE2Glasgow
3 жыл бұрын
Is Mark Williams the same guy that asked for Nazeem Hamed to be moved from crowd?
@maxington26
3 жыл бұрын
Red first, but when it's by a margin so slight that it evades the 25fps(?) of the TV cameras.... I think it's fair to call that as simultaneous contact. What's the solution? I guess, either have a super-high fps & resolution overhead camera with footage available for review at any time, or train up a machine learning model on thousands of hours of previous footage which could bump up the resolution and framerate on demand. About time Nvidia partnered up with snooker! ;)
@obs4281
3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that slight though Marky, clearly hit the red first, I get peoples eyes and judgement are different but. Sure, wasn't a obvious hit but still, very noticable
@XaviRonaldo0
2 жыл бұрын
Not fair at all to call simultaneous contact. Quite clearly it was impossible for it to strike the pink first on the trajectory it was on.
@ilaser4064
3 жыл бұрын
The change in trajectory says it all, it hit the red first no doubt.
@lucabbou8431
3 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right.would he hit the pink first the white wouldn’t kept moving so much
@gerrygunn5109
3 жыл бұрын
Play back at .25 speed; watch with your own eyes, it hit the red first.
@Kogacarlo
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, you can see the white move to the left after hitting red.
@0flan
3 жыл бұрын
Wow I thought pink first then thought red first. Then back to pink first. Then hit red sending it moving. But tbh it's a close one.
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
3 жыл бұрын
The angle proves it hit red first.
@grahamhaitch1497
3 жыл бұрын
A very close call indeed, but I think it hit the red first by the tiniest of margins. Fascinating video.
@johnmc3862
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, you can tell by the trajectory of the red.
@jmarsh5485
4 ай бұрын
can it not hit both? the trajectory of red and pink are expected, so it seems to slot perfectly into both balls. dont see why its anymore complicated than this conclusion given how the other TWO balls behave
@tassie7325
3 жыл бұрын
5:23 The fact that the pink moved further proves nothing as it was struck with a more powerful direct blow as opposed to the glancing blow to the red.
@catdisc5304
3 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too, the distance would only be relevant if the white ball hit both balls at the same angle. Then you'd be able to derive which ball got struck first by the distance the balls moved as it transfers more energy in the first than the second. But here all we have to look at is the frame by frame replay, you can see how the red ball gets deflected in the frame that shows impact with both balls. It goes down, then right, then down again
@ebojfmdboojoh4023
Жыл бұрын
It definitely hit the red first. Watch it at quarter speed and it's pretty clear
@DafyddPhillips
3 жыл бұрын
Red ball first thanks to the slow mo. Would just hate to be the ref when incidents like this happen 🎱🎱
@pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
3 жыл бұрын
At least he got it right in the end.
@daddypig.5796
3 жыл бұрын
Dafydd, Laziness on your part to pick two pool balls to represent the game of snooker. 😜 .................................................................. 🏐 🌝 🏀 🍀 🌎 🧠 👹 🍎🚫 🛑🔞🔴 🍓🚗🧲㊙️ ⭕️⛔️❤️🌺🍅 ⚫️ ..................................................................
@chakko007
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say that he hit the red first as well. But, if you need half a dozen replays, and still can't be sure, then I don't blame the ref at all...
@MPee76
3 жыл бұрын
@@chakko007 Well ofcourse he hit red first.. Why is this even a debate? If he would have hit pink first and the cue trailed the pink, what was the force that made the red ball move???
@chakko007
3 жыл бұрын
@Quentin Styger Yep.
@doonsbury9656
3 жыл бұрын
I, for one, believe that it hit the red first...and it was certainly not that call which cost Mark Williams the match....more like that miss on the easy green!
@ehsnils
3 жыл бұрын
I agree - the red is a lot closer to the path, but to get proof you'd need a slow motion camera.
@allthesame3856
3 жыл бұрын
Yes on both counts
@ianmcnulty3279
3 жыл бұрын
Should be the ref's decision not the other player
@leftaroundabout
3 жыл бұрын
But was the green a kick? It seems so, since Selby asked for it to be cleaned then.
@MPee76
3 жыл бұрын
@@ehsnils Or have an idea how newtonian laws work :) How would it be possible for cue to first hit pink, bounce back to hit the red so that the red deflects in about 90 degree angle and then keep trailing the pink?
@judgetk8327
3 жыл бұрын
It hit the red first for sure. And I like both players.
@doncekairrys1411
3 жыл бұрын
It was red first
@toramenor
3 жыл бұрын
You don't lose a title match on one ball. I'm sure Williams was disappointed, but he had other chances which he didn't take and Selby won fair and square. It was a tough call for the ref under pressure, but he made the right decision. Interesting analysis in the end about the path of the white after hit and the imaginary blue ball. Nice edit
@nikkip3385
3 жыл бұрын
Actually it's very possible to win or lose a title on one ball. World championship final 1985! 😂
@nicholaspilkiewicz9871
2 жыл бұрын
@@nikkip3385 hendry v williams masters final also.
@nicholaspilkiewicz9871
2 жыл бұрын
After the zoom that looks like simultaneous contact which is a foul.
@philip851
2 жыл бұрын
The ref called the foul and accepted the player's confirmation ...he then changed his mind. He isn't allowed to revisit his decision. If a player concedes a frame he can't change his mind
@spd7693
2 жыл бұрын
That is Mark Williams' usual problem. He's simply a very emotional man and any dramatic moment in a game can derail him. That's why he blows it so often when it comes to some important and dramatic moments. But I don't see anything bad in this. Williams is a grandmaster of snooker and I always will be fascinated by his game. And he did the right thing in the end. Just had to be more focused.
@ick5353
3 жыл бұрын
Williams has no one to blame but himself. Apart from missing the green, he’s the one that called for a review (which the ref retracted) when the ref already made the call.
@XaviRonaldo0
3 жыл бұрын
No good deed goes unpunished
@keithdechief1
3 жыл бұрын
Good sportsmanship from Mark Williams. A win based on a questionable decision is tainted anyway.
@karlstallard2955
3 жыл бұрын
Red first, then smashes into pink.
@shivaramjagasar562
3 жыл бұрын
I think that shot is very disrespectful.
@dannymack8653
3 жыл бұрын
Not when he plays it apparently .
@PointNemo9
3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@ittaloceara
3 жыл бұрын
@@PointNemo9 O'Sullivan v Selby Semi Final 2020 World Championship Snooker. It's sarcasm
@mark-147
3 жыл бұрын
Clearly red first. Look at the frame just before contact. The white is going to hit pink slightly under half ball. The angle the pink travels in is straighter than expected because it has been hit fuller thanks to the deviation caused by the red. Also, had the cueball hit the pink first, the red would've gone on an angle more to the left.
@gillscramble
3 жыл бұрын
Instead of watching the pink and the red, watch the white. When it contacts the pink, you can see in its shadow that it is no longer on a straight line, but turned away from the red. That can only be the case if it contacted the red first.
@Vinny-ts8dq
3 жыл бұрын
Deffo hit red first
@james2578
3 жыл бұрын
cesar not only edits beautifully, but his introductions are beautiful to read.
@AeroGraphica
3 жыл бұрын
Since the direct trajectory makes it hit the red, and the pink position is right of a line 90º perpendicular of that trajectory across the red, it is mathematically impossible to hit the pink first. Pretty intuitive to me.
@XaviRonaldo0
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The trajectory the cue ball was on it was impossible to hit the pink first
@nigelbooton1296
3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone thought it could of hit the two at the same time?
@spd7693
2 жыл бұрын
If it hit the two at the same time, it still would have been a foul as if it had hit the pink first. That is a general rule in all billiard-like games. Hitting two balls with a different color simultaneously means you have hit the wrong ball first. If in 8-ball you hit the black and another full color (like 4 for instance) or any stripe, it's a foul. If you hit a full and a stripe (1 and 9) it's a foul again, except if you have no color chosen/no ball potted yet. If in 9-ball you hit 1 and 3 simultaneously, even during the break, it's a foul.
@barend28
3 жыл бұрын
On the 1/4 replay put the youtube play speed to 0.25, can clearly see it hit the red first however still a difficult call to make on the spot in 2011, how used to 4k 60fps have we gotten.
@ron4274
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely clear on 0.25 speed that the cue ball struck red first. Even at normal speed you can clearly see the trajectory of the cue ball by the trailing images (e.g., @ 5:20), and on that path it will strike red first. This is confirmed by the subtle, but definite, change in direction (i.e., up table) that the cue ball takes upon initial contact .
@MPee76
3 жыл бұрын
Forget the slomo.. Just think.. Would it be possible for the cue to hit pink first, then red considering the trajectories of the balls? How would the cue first hit pink then bouce back to hit the red so that the red goes off in about 90 degree angle and after that hit still trail the pink?
@soerenbo
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know of this incident and stumbled across it after a typical KZitem recommendation spree. And honestly even after just 2 replays you can already see that it hit the red first, especially with the top down view stopped at 2:15. The exact straight line of the white ball HAS to hit the red first, and the way the red started moving just a fraction of a second before the pink clearly shows that. The path the red took after getting hit also speaks for a direct hit, just as the path of the white does, even in the first 2 slow-mos. It's of course a close call if done live, but honestly not really a controversy with the replays we have here avaible, at least in my personal opinion.
@bobsmithy9024
2 жыл бұрын
8:00 Arguably the most outrageous 'getting out of a snooker and putting your opponent in a snooker' shot in the history of the sport? Quite incredible.
@-The-Darkside
2 жыл бұрын
Unreal, hidden amongst the drama
@meddem7060
3 жыл бұрын
the sound says it all. if the small amplitude is before the big, then red contact first.
@sedmi4LD
3 жыл бұрын
if pink was hit first, the white ball would lose almost all of its energy and will not have sufficient power to hit and move the red ball that far away. Red was hit first.
@earlhickey1557
3 жыл бұрын
The rules are clear, if you cant tell for sure it was a foul, it should be treated like a corect shot.
@maliksaraanasim5404
3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos,Learning alot. Love from Pakistan!
@o_Vardo_o
3 жыл бұрын
05:10 on the zoom you can barely see the direction of the white ball being changed by the hit on the red. So for me it hits the red first.
@lx3469
3 жыл бұрын
The way you worded that sounds like it contradicts itself lol
@XaviRonaldo0
3 жыл бұрын
@@lx3469 replace barely with slightly
@rs-qt1qg
3 жыл бұрын
Yet Selby was crying about Ronnie "hitting the ball at 100 mph" to get out of snookers in last years WC semi-final 🤔
@simongibson8227
3 жыл бұрын
100% i agree with you
@noelmadden1920
3 жыл бұрын
Rent free in Ronnie fanboy heads!
@eoghantoner
3 жыл бұрын
Ronnie fan, are you?
@rs-qt1qg
3 жыл бұрын
@@eoghantoner no I'm a snooker fan. My point being Selby can't complain when he's done the same thing himself
@jdennisuk1
3 жыл бұрын
Red first... Watch the zoomed in, slo-mo...the angle of the white changes from its approach angle and can only be caused by hitting the red before it hit the pink...!
@OtakuLogan2017
2 жыл бұрын
Mark Williams was right to call a review, I'm sure he wanted to win fair and square, not take advantage of possible human error.
@JasperXoR
Жыл бұрын
I do think you can determine it hit the red another way. the three frames you have to work with show enough that you can tell the 2nd frame is not capture backwards movement of the cueball. The balls are not in a simultaneous contact position, the pink is far enough away along the trajectory of the red that once the cueball hits the pink it's past the closest point on the red ball. So for the red ball to be in motion and not hit first it would have to be off rebound form pink. This is just my take. Interesting controversy though.
@podgemcgrath
2 жыл бұрын
Very bitter remark by Williams. He had multiple chances to put that frame away. He only has himself to blame.
@NealFosterHD
2 жыл бұрын
I think the white changed trajectory after hitting the red first. Edit: should have watched the next part of the video!
@XaviRonaldo0
2 жыл бұрын
The ref didn't cost you anything! You only had to win 1 frame out of 3. You cost yourself the title
@neilgriffiths6427
3 жыл бұрын
Yup, hit the red first. I'm Welsh and a pool player, so I like both Selby and Williams. Edit: However Williams, by contesting this so vehemently, has clearly wrecked his own mind-set. Sometimes it's better to get on with it.
@Masterdoctorgenius14
3 жыл бұрын
How on f earth do you miss such an easy green Mark? After the AO loss vs Bingo this was the beginning of the end till 2017/2018
@kratagyasharma3644
2 жыл бұрын
"Mark was convinced that it hit the pink and the other mark said..." 😂😂
@XaviRonaldo0
2 жыл бұрын
Look at the trajectory of the cue ball. It was impossible for it to hit the pink first
@bbbustedflush
3 жыл бұрын
I checked and the world did not end because of this call.
@MeidoVegeta
3 жыл бұрын
The Ref was correct. I was convinced the pink was hit first until the super slow mo. Only the Ref with years experience could be so right being so close.
@XaviRonaldo0
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely hit the red first. Clear deflection into the pink
@Traitorman..Proverbs26.11
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll join in the discussion. If the cue ball had hot the pink first, the red would have had a different trajectory. Simple physics.
@CesarMuroya
3 жыл бұрын
The imaginary blue ball shows that even if he had hit the pink first, the red could still have followed the path it took. That's why I say the direction of the red doesn't give many clues.
@mustafakazi6894
3 жыл бұрын
100% it hit Red first. No Doubt
@dazuk1969
3 жыл бұрын
The white definitely hit the cushion first 😉
@__last
2 жыл бұрын
The cue ball moves to the right after contact which means it hit red first. it brushes the red, moving it to the right while hitting the pink.
@ianmcnulty3279
3 жыл бұрын
The ref wants sacking he said he thought the red moved first so he should not change his mind on what the other player said. IS HE THE REF OR NOT ?
@PanterD2S
3 жыл бұрын
It's a "gentlemen's sport", no? If both players agree its the truth.
@darthforexvader7201
3 жыл бұрын
The refs last job before the sack
@1218jmm
3 жыл бұрын
I think it hit the red first and I can't stand Selby.
@bipolarminddroppings
3 жыл бұрын
The cue ball clearly has been deflected to the left (relative to the direction of motion) in the moment between frames, which can only have happened if it hit the red first. I hope they have high frame rate cameras over the table these days so this isn't an issue.
@Ironsvillage
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, you can see this if you put the video on 0.25 speed and watch the replay. The red definitely moves first
@t7612-v6h
3 жыл бұрын
Selby did a good job talking the referee out of his initial decision
@pedrom1619
3 жыл бұрын
It was the right decision so it was right to request a better judgement!
@19ARSENAL100
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely red first.
@michaelhawthorne8696
3 жыл бұрын
The red definitely moved first, there isn't any question in my mind.....Slow down youtube to 0.25 while they slow their vid down.....clear as a bell...red first
@Tubs34
3 жыл бұрын
Pink first no doubt
@alexwells2231
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely red first
@sylviaelse5086
2 жыл бұрын
I'm inclined to say red first, but I'm glad I wasn't the one having to decide. Perhaps high-speed and high-resolution cameras can be used in future games. There will still be edge cases, but certainly fewer of them.
@RandomIndyWrestling
3 жыл бұрын
If you don't have video playback, don't request it to be watched back. That green was criminal though. What a shot to get behind the black though!
@marei7290
3 жыл бұрын
red ball first
@lesliewoodley2384
3 жыл бұрын
Red first.
@bountyhuntermk2520
3 жыл бұрын
Red first
@robinred1851
3 жыл бұрын
It's the red ball that moves first. But without doubt a very difficult decision.
@johnpol41
3 жыл бұрын
Pause the video as soon as it makes contact the pink moves first
@twitchdagelijks4798
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpol41 eyes can trick you he hit the red so thin and the pink full ball that it will look like he hit pink ball first it's the red ball that move first imo
@johnpol41
3 жыл бұрын
@@twitchdagelijks4798 pause the video when it’s about to hit the ball it’s the pink that moves first
@twitchdagelijks4798
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpol41 red was hit so thin while pink ball was hit full ball your eyes can trick you into thinking that it hit pink ball first which is not in this case
@tesla-spectre
2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that it must have hit red first because given that the red was in front of the pink from the perspective of the white , if the white had hit the pink first, the red would either had been missed entirely or at least pushed into an entirely different direction (angle). I think one can also see that the red is hit a tiny fraction of a second before the pink,
@gaborbartok6398
3 жыл бұрын
Funny how the Hungarian commentators are absolutely confident that it hit the pink first, and they keep saying that.
@uzimakinaruto928
3 жыл бұрын
Bro os your channel fine now i remember you stating that your channel was gonna be taken down due to copyright issues
@JoeChadburn702
3 жыл бұрын
Thank god for youtube SLO MO... Red First.... the red is in FRONT and it hits the Pink literally half a second later. Play the vid at the slowest speed you can.... Your welcome.
@gerryquinn5224
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the pink moved further is irrelevant; the red ball was only clipped sightly on the edge whereas the pink was hit fuller. It was RED FIRST...
@lechatvenere
3 жыл бұрын
If the pink is placed AFTER the red on the cue ball trajectory, AND the red is moving, AND the cue ball continues her way, SO the red is touched first, it is impossible for the red to move if the pink is touched first, it is physically impossible for the red to give energy to the cue ball to keep going like that, end of neverending debate.
@nikolakistoumba
3 жыл бұрын
The day Selby got the 1st place at rankings and stayed for a decade..
@soloshit2154
3 жыл бұрын
pink moves further because it gets hit full ball, the contact with the red is a cut
@newjerseybt
3 жыл бұрын
The two players discussed it further. A correct point was made; the pink moved farther because it gets hit full ball.
@wizewizard1840
3 жыл бұрын
Also red was hit first.
@newjerseybt
3 жыл бұрын
@@wizewizard1840 Absolutely!
@French20cent
Жыл бұрын
The red moved, so he hit the red. And given how the balls were placed, the red HAD to be hit first for it to move at all since there wasn't a back effect given by Selby to the white. SCIENCE, MATHS
@johnsrabe
Жыл бұрын
Love MW but he couldn’t physically see if it hit pink or red first. And as we now see, he was wrong. Nice vid.
@loungebiddle7922
3 жыл бұрын
Comments are as interesting as what occurred. In context of these players today (2021) Mark Williams a very different player and much more relaxed and enjoyable to watch (my opinion only as I understand we all have preferences for the style of Snooker played). Mark Selby, although ranked #1, is not that much different now. I would say he is less enjoyable to watch. Regarding this 2011 match, well done Selby for winning. He was gifted the match and it fell apart for Williams because he disputed a decision that was a good call. That got into his head, his body language and composure indicates he was feeling cheated. That is a wrong way of thinking when you are on the brink of winning. But overall, still prefer The Rocket and the Ace in the Pack. I also do agree with the point that Selby has made a fuss about the slam shot yet this is a pretty good example of him doing it in 2011. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Selby must have a short memory or is a bit of a sour puss as well.
@DidilyCOD
2 жыл бұрын
Why have the title in English and then have NON English commentary.... dislike :)
@spd7693
2 жыл бұрын
It shows that the red was hit first. Plaudids for Williams though, who didn't believe it. If only we could see this level of sportsmanship in other sports too. I'm looking at you, David Goffin! (Once in a game between him and Federer Goffin hit a winner after the ball bounced twice. Federer admitted the foul, but the referee was sure there was no second bounce, even if the replays showed it very clearly. Eventually Goffin won the match.)
@laxrulz7
Жыл бұрын
It has to be red first. The motion blur of the white clearly shows a deviation in a direction only explained by red contact BEFORE the pink
@deovision
2 жыл бұрын
Cue ball's trajectory is slightly different when striking the pink ball, so must have ht the red ball first (unless there was also some debris on the cloth?... Doubtful.)
@Caleb123456ification
3 жыл бұрын
definitely hit the red first... the trajectory of the cue ball says it all (the blur lines help)
@Alvio64
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understand why Mark Williams kept arguing it. He thought it hit the pink first and Selby was happy to concede the foul
@McElhinney65
2 жыл бұрын
I'm here because some sad individual appears to have hacked Mark Selby's youtube account and changed the title of several of his videos to include the word cheat. I am a huge Mark Williams fan, my favourite player. However I have to say this was red first, Selby didn't cheat and the fool who has done the hacking should be ashamed of himself.
@badiojamal5313
2 ай бұрын
well in the replay its apparent that red moved before the pink which means red is hit first.
@andrewwilson8317
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely hit the red first. The red could only move if hit by the white and the way the suite was moving means it had to have hit the red to keep going in the direction it did?
@paulriggall8370
3 жыл бұрын
He blamed it on the pink, not the green!? 🤔 C'mon Mark! 😁
@paulriggall8370
3 жыл бұрын
Sure it wasn't the good times?
@captaincaveman8729
3 жыл бұрын
Logically speaking there shouldn't be any confusion, with the trajectory of the shot the red was in front of the pink, if; in another identical scenario, he had to play the pink he would've had to miss the red completely
@rjf9925
2 жыл бұрын
100% it made contact with the red first because in was in line of sight to the pink ! How far each ball moved is irrelevant because the white could of made contact with the red first (in which I think it did) but by 100th of a millimeter but the pink got the full force, head on..
@johnj3577
2 жыл бұрын
Hits the red first, no doubt about it. Set playback speed to 0.25 and watch one of the replays. The white changes direction before it hits the pink.
@kevinbeach8915
3 жыл бұрын
Hmm the angle of the hit would indicate the red was closer to the white ball. The way it was struck tends to imply the red should never have moved at all knowing the cue ball moves forward in the second afterwards. I deduce the white was struck first the red second and the pink last. Excellent escape. Play on
@RonanB99
2 жыл бұрын
Mark Selby smashes in to the reds to escape a snooker. I thought that was disrespectful to the game Mark?
@roygbv255
3 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with everyone here. He definitely hit the "I couldn't give a flying fuck" ball first.
@slottyken
2 жыл бұрын
Referees need to stick with their first call. They need to make a decision and be firm about enforcing it. No good can come about changing your mind once you have made the call. In this case the ref was 100% correct in the first instance. Red first.
@andydurance478
2 жыл бұрын
Thing is when Ronnie played this shot in the world final 2 years ago Selby lost selby accused Ronnie of being disrespectful but selby did the same thing himself All be it 8 sorry 9 yers prior
@samtaurus007
Жыл бұрын
After reviewing the footage, red ball first. Williams (bless him) is talking shit. :)
@philbrown5786
3 жыл бұрын
I like how when Ronnie was in a selby snooker and just gave it a whack that selby was calling Ronnie disrespectful but its ok for selby to give it a whack when he's in a tough snooker!! 🤔🤔
@manudude02
3 жыл бұрын
If it's the snooker I'm thinking of (Premier League), it wasn't the whacking into the jaws which was seen as disrespectful, but the deliberate fouls when he fell behind and kept getting "miss" calls.
@philbrown5786
3 жыл бұрын
@@manudude02 no it was in world championship the other Yr when selby kept putting Ronnie in snooker but Ronnie wasn't going to get bogged down in that sort of frame so whacked the balls but selby called that disrespectful!!
@gaskellr44
3 жыл бұрын
Red first 100%, there should be no argument, the slow video shows it clearly.
@Steve-K.G.
2 жыл бұрын
Surely if it had hit the pink it wouldn't have even come into contact with the red. It would've had to go past the red for pink first, and then the red wouldn't have moved as the cue ball kept rolling.
@cupidstunt22
2 жыл бұрын
What's the problem? Clearly red first by an obvious margin
@fabrizziolevoni849
Жыл бұрын
Red first, obvious in slow motion
@TheKaluNaama
2 жыл бұрын
The hell, this is a simple call. Even without slow-mo, anyone can see the red starts moving before the pink.
@kiwicrafter
3 жыл бұрын
It is very simple, if the white ball needs to hit the pink ball. it needs to travel past the red ball, therefor if the red ball moves, it was hit before the white ball touched the Pink ball.
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