Robert Harron was in the 27 Club before there was a 27 Club.
@kittykatz4001
Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t Mozart in the 27 club?
@christalweb4531
Жыл бұрын
@@kittykatz4001 Mozart died aged 35.
@kittykatz4001
Жыл бұрын
@@christalweb4531 TY for the correction. I wasn’t sure if my memory was playing tricks!
@awakenyewhosleeprealityisn4860
Жыл бұрын
My eldest brother killed himself at age 27 when I was 10. He was born in ‘47 and died in ‘74. Our grandfather was killed by a hit and run driver on the Key Bridge in D.C. in 1923. He was 27 when he died and he and my brother looked like they could have been twins. My Mom gave birth to my brother at age 27. Also, my brother was born on 9/11. 27 years after his death, the 9/11 attacks took place. I’m not sure what all of this means, but it certainly is strange.
@semigoth299
11 ай бұрын
Interesting however they should include him as a founder
@jj-if6it
9 ай бұрын
Robert Harron was cute, and his story is crazy. Imagine accidentally shooting yourself and then the police arrest you?! Like maybe wait until he gets out of hospital...
@OceanSwimmer
Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. This era interests me because my father was born in 1919, and my maternal grandparents were born in 1890 and 1895, respectively. Mom was born in 1926 and is 97 years old!
@lefty-bw1zp
Жыл бұрын
Wow! My mom was born in 1926 too, but she died last year.
@OceanSwimmer
Жыл бұрын
@@lefty-bw1zp Sincere condolences on the loss of your mother. 🌻🦋
@noregrets7469
Жыл бұрын
My dad too was born in 1919 April fools. We would come up with all kinds of funny jokes to pull on him and though he acted like he didn’t like them, mom would tell us he did😊
@daynasafranek7807
Жыл бұрын
Jack Pickford was allegedly a real dog
@kennethlippertshauser3376
Жыл бұрын
You're very lucky ocean. Mom was born in 1926 and went to heaven last year. She liked this stuff take care brother my best to Mom. 👍💚
@maureenmcdonough7018
Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe that Arbuckle killed that woman. Her friend was a known liar . Whatever the truth is it ruined Arbuckles career and his life. Only The people involved knows the real truth and God. But I never thought he was guilty of causing her death.
@SusanTaft-o2x
Жыл бұрын
One will not know the truth if one listens snd believes rumors
@pamelasimone5084
Жыл бұрын
If she had been suffering from a kidney or bladder infection, she very likely died from that. Even now people under estimate the seriousness of urinary tract infections. Alcohol consumption will increase the inflammation and worsen the condition especially if left untreated. The bacteria can spread eventually causing organ failure, especially if the bacteria enters the blood stream.
@johnfinnie1181
Жыл бұрын
@pamelasimone5084 I suffer bad as a man it's 1000× worse than any toothache 😫 & for me when it happen I need to be alone in a quiet place as No one can understand & do anything to help 🙃 I agree if she was so bad then I think the UTI was the catalyst for her death BUT why did no-one think to get her antibiotics.
@Tyler_Kent
Жыл бұрын
@@johnfinnie1181Antibiotics weren't an option. Penicillin was still 5yrs away. Edit: Penicillin was 1928 so 7yrs away.
@pamelasimone5084
Жыл бұрын
@@johnfinnie1181 I looked up the history of antibiotics because I wanted to make sure of when they were used in modern medicine. In 1911 Salvarsan was available but was primarily used for the treatment of syphilis. It was hard to administer and had same very bad side effects. So it wasn’t prescribed as a treatment for anything except syphilis. There was no antibiotic for general use until Prontosil was released in 1935. At the time there weren’t any antibiotics available. There weren’t any reliable ways to treat a UTI at that time except with home remedies such as cranberry juice and lots of water in an attempt to flush out the bacteria. If that didn’t work, then she should have been catheterized and flushed. It required hospitalization. Why that wasn’t done we will never know. If nothing else worked, I read that they used surgery as a last resort. It sounds like she was partying and that aggravated the infection. It would have caused extreme pain from inflammation. From what I read, it was likely the UTI could have killed her. She was already sick before she went to San Francisco. The days without proper treatment just made things worse.
@3frenchhens818
Жыл бұрын
I used to work for the most wonderful San Francisco lawyer. As a teenager, he and a buddy snuck into the Fatty Arbuckle trial. The FIRST Fatty Arbuckle trial. He was off to law school and was fascinated by the ways the various lawyers manipulated facts and testimony to get what they wanted. He only got to watch a few days. Security got tighter!
@chicagogyrl4846
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, if her husband caught syphilis, I would say that her marriage was on the rocks!!
@pamelasimone5084
Жыл бұрын
They were both into parties and liked drinking. They had a tempestuous relationship but Jack Pickford said Olive was the love of his life. Thomas had a lucrative stage career before meeting Pickford. They met and eloped in 1916. In 1918, he served in the Navy and was stationed in NYC. The nature of syphilis made it hard to diagnose at the time. Some of its symptoms were often attributed to other diseases. It may have been misdiagnosed for a while. It seems odd that his doctor prescribed mercury bichloride solution to treat Jack’s syphilis when Salvarsan was available. Mercury bichloride was known to be poisonous. Salvarsan was much safer.
@BlackRiverBay
5 ай бұрын
He might've had syphilis before he married her.
@pamelasimone5084
Жыл бұрын
Caruso’s death was so sad. He postponed treatment for too long after the first injury. Sometimes trying to be too stoic can be dangerous. The world lost a great artist.
@nothing2seehere34
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about Robert Harron, sad he is forgotten even in death.
@jec1ny
Жыл бұрын
Great video. One small suggestion, Mention where these people are buried. Back in the 20's cremation was extremely rare so most of them would have been interred either in a proper grave or a mausoleum.
@jrabele
Жыл бұрын
The woman died by drinking her husbands topical syphilis ointment by mistake, this is all kinds of wrong!!!
@shaggydogg630
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is! I thought the same thing. It’s like wow!
@davidrewit
9 ай бұрын
@@shaggydogg630roaring 20s indeed😮
@BlackRiverBay
5 ай бұрын
The video did not state that it was an ointment. It was apparently in liquid form because she drank it from a small bottle.
@jrabele
5 ай бұрын
@@BlackRiverBay I stand corrected.
@debraday9898
5 ай бұрын
U full of krap! U cannot drink ointment. Are u drinking?
@herbcraven7146
Жыл бұрын
Excellent job on this updated installment. I had only recently caught up on your previous series, and I enjoyed the greater depth and compassion with which you explored these notable people's lives and deaths in this version. May they all rest in peace with the knowledge that they will not be forgotten.
@nancyanderson1716
Жыл бұрын
A fascinating era. Thanks for keeping it alive. I’d be interested in something on the great Valentino.
@jchow5966
Жыл бұрын
No anti biotics back then for STDs or UTIs or other things. Sad.
@hugosophy
Жыл бұрын
Lol yeah mercury sulfate
@camsnow2856
Жыл бұрын
Terrific redo of your original series on this subject. Love your channel. I’ve always wondered about the circumstances surrounding Olive Thomas’ death. Apparently Jack Pickford kept changing his story. And if the medicine burned her, wouldn’t she have stopped drinking it once she felt the burn in her throat and on her lips?. Allegedly she drank the whole bottle. At this distance, we’ll never know, but it makes for fascinating conjecture (just as the William Desmond Taylor and Bobby Harran’s cases)..
@LathropLdST
Жыл бұрын
Her death is a mystery to this day. I suspect Pickford wanted to play a prank on her while quarrelling, and it went out of hand...
@mousetreehouse6833
Жыл бұрын
If it were a small bottle, she may have just chugged it.
@SunsetBoulevard111
Жыл бұрын
@@LathropLdSTjack was a scoundrel living off of Mary's allotment. He made very little money from his films. Mary made millions on her movies. I did not trust that jack meant well.
@benbelzer8303
Жыл бұрын
I think that Delmont woman sounds like a great suspect. Seems like Rappe was set up so this woman could shakedown Fatty.
@pixiestyx1766
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.. I love your presentations
@martletkay
Жыл бұрын
Your voice is incredibly well suited to the videos you narrate. I really feel like I'm slipping into the past with the way you read it. I wish you'd make a very long video, like reading longer articles or relating radio sketches or something. I want to experience more of everyday life and perspectives from back then.
@chicagogyrl4846
Жыл бұрын
You don’t guzzle sleeping pills, so I doubt this is what she thought it was. And if she was drunk, she wouldn’t be looking for nerve tonic! I bet in her drunken state she thought it was booze, like a liquor. That’s depending on exactly where was this bottle when she consumed it. It was probably just laying around, and not put in a safe place. It might have even been laying around by all the other bottles of liquor that they had, that’s why she grabbed it. And yeah, that could be, and a good way to get rid of her, if that’s what her husband planned to do!
@suebeawho6537
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Deepbluecat
Жыл бұрын
Very nicely done. Looking forward to more in depth episodes like this.
@fredvaladez3542
Жыл бұрын
A well made video about a fascinating era.. The material and the narration were expertly presented. Keep up the good work. (By the way, my mother was one of the original flappers.)
@marthadoody
Ай бұрын
Enjoyed this very much. I had not seen the previous one. I look forward to watching the next one. I love your videos. I wish I could have shared these with my mother, as she grew up in the 1920s. I became an "old move fan" in the late 1960s, and my mother and I got to share a lot of good times discussing actors, movies, and events.
@kslinaz5668
Жыл бұрын
Your stylish presentations are visually enjoyable. Great job 👏
@MemphiStig
Жыл бұрын
Haven't seen the originals, but this was very good. I enjoy your videos. It never hurts to review and improve your work (as long as you're not being revisionist imo), especially because you're trying to create something lasting. Like the sculptor said, just keep cutting away 'til it's a horse. (Or words to that effect.) These stories are really moving and so tragic, like those of many famous people. Top of the world one day, dead of mercury poisoning the next.
@artheemisia
Жыл бұрын
Lowell Sherman was at Fatty’s party all weekend yet he ended up having a very nice career as a movie actor and director
@deborahbaker4770
Жыл бұрын
Why would a opera singer smoke I would think they would want to protect their money maker ‼️
@VintageVera
Жыл бұрын
Please do a Famous Deaths of the 1930s next. Love this series.
@ndnaf3705
Жыл бұрын
Uh...this a 1920s themed channel.
@Actually.mickey
24 күн бұрын
Uhm...this is a 1920's themed channel. Did you not see the channel name?
@daynasafranek7807
Жыл бұрын
Some people say Dumont conspired to get Rappe there and she wasn’t invited, but rather, they crashed the party and Dumont had wanted to blackmail Arbuckle on a rape charge of Rappe.
@SunsetBoulevard111
Жыл бұрын
Huh? What? You did not make sense
@lisag18
5 ай бұрын
@SunsetBoulevard111 huh, back at you. The comment makes total sense. Read it again. It's just speculation but simply, it was a conspiracy to extort money.
@helenawarsinnak
Жыл бұрын
You did SUCH an AMAZING job with this video!! 💜
@RemusKingOfRome
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, sad about those who died so young.
@monbrat3064
Жыл бұрын
Truly enjoy your channel great video
@catherinemerrill5511
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was deep.
@rosemaryfranzese317
Жыл бұрын
Have you considered the story of Lucille Rickson? The 14 year old former child star who prematurely was catapulted into played adult roles died of TB in 1925. Some believe that she died due to an abortion but there is no proof of this at all and TB was common at the time. The real scandal was that Lucille was overworked and malnourished at the time of her death and some of the places she stayed in during her career were less than the standard a young star should have stayed in
@SunsetBoulevard111
Жыл бұрын
Fatty weighed between 266 lbs 300 lbs at the time of his tryst with Rappe. When he was born he weighed16 lbs!! On the other hand, she was a very thin woman. He is the one that ruptured her bladder. If she had the feminine health problems that they claim - do you really think she would be engaging in intimate relations? Within an hour, Delmont claimed to hear screaming and tried to enter the room, but Arbuckle had locked it shut. Eventually, Arbuckle opened the door, clad in pajamas, wearing Virginia's hat on his head and, Delmont said, a big "Fatty Arbuckle smile" on his face. Inside the room, Delmont charged, Rappe was on the bed in pain, yelling, "I am dying, I am dying. He did it." The hotel doctor and nurse were called. They moved Rappe to another room to rest for a few days until finally being taken to a hospital where she died, on Sept. 9, of a ruptured urinary bladder.
@johnfinnie1181
Жыл бұрын
Iv had urine infections from a boy to manhood & i can attest to how sore & uncomfortable it is. Its worse that the worse toothache imaginable that poor woman i can totally get why she was ripping at her clothes (if true) as when im in the car & it happens i neef to get out of there & be alone as No one can help you atm in time 😢 💔 😞
@dkphillips1654
Жыл бұрын
You have part of Mr. Arbuckle story wrong. His story never changed according to everything I've read on the events.
@maizie9454
2 ай бұрын
why would anyone put ice where fatty supposedly did? thatss really off
@dearbrad1996
Жыл бұрын
Great production! Kudos to you. I've learnt a lot from those wonderful years. Thank you
@lauraleigh5562
Жыл бұрын
So interesting. Really makes you wonder what the real causes of deaths were. Looking forward to more of your vids
@gogoyubari366
Жыл бұрын
Olive Thomas was so pretty!
@ChrisBee-lw2qr
Жыл бұрын
Great job! Videos quality is awesome!❤
@angelawheeler7825
Жыл бұрын
I subscribed to your wonderful channel ❤️😊.
@stardustmelody2709
Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced “Rap” not “rap-eh”
@bethc249
Жыл бұрын
I really like your videos!
@catherinemerrill5511
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was deep.
@jj-if6it
9 ай бұрын
Gone for 100 years. Yet they live on
@bennorwood8433
Жыл бұрын
Can you please do it for me about Northern Rhodesia in the 1920s
@seanphillips9523
Жыл бұрын
Ty for these. You do good work.
@arrow1414
Жыл бұрын
I do not want to pile onto Enrico Curoso, but due to his reluctance to get proper timely care, I have to say, he, not his doctors is responsible for his death.
@LathropLdST
Жыл бұрын
Enrico Caruso. At least write it correctly, you heathen.
@musicalme27
11 ай бұрын
His first name was Enrico
@arrow1414
11 ай бұрын
@@musicalme27 Got hit by auto correct and my bad proof reading. I will correct it now.
@personaking7844
Жыл бұрын
Hadn't she had an abortion?
@jackcooper7934
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video.
@angeladetrizio9522
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very informative and interesting video. I’m glad I found your channel. ❤
@collettewhitney2141
Жыл бұрын
new sub i love the 1920s keep up the good work
@TransVangal
Жыл бұрын
May we see the man behind the channel? this channel is such a GEM!
@shawngregg3796
Жыл бұрын
Interesting enough Olive 🫒 Thomas was the very first Vargas hirl ever painted. She certainly was a beauty.
@michaelmcgee8543
Жыл бұрын
She was already being treated for syphhis.She was wild.
@joconnor9256
Жыл бұрын
Can I recommend a vlog called They Got Away With Murder very interesting take on the case
@personaking7844
Жыл бұрын
The abortion she had didn't help
@beverlyledbetter4906
Жыл бұрын
Her husband had syphilis, not her!😐
@ladyagnes7781
11 ай бұрын
I read that Rappe had undergone a procedure the morning of the party( her 6th time getting that procedure). The day before she was an expectant mother, but by that evening ( thanks to the procedure) she was not. This time the procedure was done badly & potentially perforated her bladder. There were witnesses that said she went into a bedroom to lie down because she was unwell. Suddenly, she screamed. Arbuckle ran in to find out what was wrong. Maude Delmont was unreliable on so many angles. Arbuckle was finally cleared( the 3rd jury went into the jury room just long enough to write an apology to Arbuckle to be read in court), but Hollywood blacklisted him. He finally got a series of shorts in the early 30s, and was told because of their success he would be signed to a contract to restart his career. He'd been through way too much in his heart couldn't take it
@GerberDaisy72
11 ай бұрын
She was also allergic to alcohol but was drinking.
@Rachaelann59
Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite series on YT. So glad you're revamping it! Xo
@PamelaSanabria-h6v
8 күн бұрын
You lived many years after syphilis so it doesn’t mean he got it during there marriage Al Capone. It was for years before he died in Florida.
@sandrakenney567
2 ай бұрын
REST IN PEACE TO ALL THESE PEOPLE MENTIONED GODBLESS THEM 🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🦋🦋🦋🦋🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹AMEN
@heidibee501
Жыл бұрын
The only comfort l can discern is that at this date and time they would be gone nonetheless. Instead the nature of their ill timed demise means their memory is still with us. Otherwise they would have faded from history.
@jchow5966
Жыл бұрын
This is so well made! Thank you for your dedication to history and the most fascinating decade ☮️
@Wildxroses
11 ай бұрын
How Virginia died made no sense. All the things that were dont to her body to try to “help her” they didn’t call a doctor right away, it took her DAYS to die. I think she was attacked by multiple men, leading the the rupture, and extreme pain and distress. Plus the fact that they tried so hard to keep what was going on from the other guests. If it was an actually medical emergency, and they didn’t know what was happening, why not call for help right away? Why not allow guests from the party in to the room to try to help her?
@janetrouse8362
Жыл бұрын
Good job on the video young man.
@jchow5966
11 ай бұрын
I like that you updated/revised older episodes - it only makes this channel stronger. I hope you make channeln in the 20 th century (over time). Your contact, production, narration etc is top notch. Thank you for supporting historical studies. ☮️😊😊
@barryhessel6078
11 ай бұрын
There are many ways a person can die from drinking. Like the woman who was drunk and drink poison. And also the Singer in the band cranberrys. Who passed out drunk. And drowned.
@maizie9454
2 ай бұрын
kind of odd how so many of these people all knew each other. that pic of rappe is with valentino. valentino died of peritonitis too
@lisamoran6742
Жыл бұрын
Most of the famous people in the 20s and even 30’s … they had no clue.. Jean Harlow for example
@Heyjay454
Жыл бұрын
thank you for doing this honoring these people giving us information keeping some of their memories alive and clearing facts. Excellent and well done and greatly appreciated.
@ndnaf3705
Жыл бұрын
Ive always been mesmerized by the 20s. I swear i was a flapper in a past life!
@jj-if6it
9 ай бұрын
Me too!
@joseurielgarcia4831
Жыл бұрын
Great video, definitely i enjoyed it again
@voyaristika5673
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your well researched video. I'll watch more now!
@graphosxp
Жыл бұрын
Death wears a big hat 'cause he's a big bloke We're only living this instant
@Joedirt3349
Жыл бұрын
momento mori
@LathropLdST
Жыл бұрын
@@Joedirt3349can ANYONE write in this comment section??!! "MEMENTO mori" 😡
@killjoy3000
Жыл бұрын
I'm a new subscriber. It's great so far. I will add that Rappe is actually pronounced as Rape. That's a very unfortunate last name. I'll try to find the article that insists on the name
@osaremeosagie53
Жыл бұрын
The intro wasn't boring. It's essential for d entire content
@RobinMarks1313
Жыл бұрын
I don't think the shooting was an accident. Wait-stop, I went and did some research. Now, I've changed my mind and think it was an accident. Modern handguns almost never fire when dropped due to manufacturing standards and tests. However, back in the 1800s, it was common for revolvers to fire when dropped. It may have been accident, but his dismissive demeanor makes me think he was covering up his real intent. He was an actor after all. So, I have to sit on the fence and say both possibilities have equal weight.
@davidanspach1624
Жыл бұрын
Been watching your channel since you first began, including this wonderful video.
@catvideojogos
Жыл бұрын
Amazing 😳
@OceanSwimmer
Жыл бұрын
Gone too soon. ✝️Robert Harron✝️
@CrystalHogan-c7y
5 ай бұрын
I love the fashion from that era especially the wedding dresses Long veil's large bouquet of flowers 🌺
@Arthur5260
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this.
@christinetitus6388
Жыл бұрын
Love your channel! That era has always fascinated me. Enjoyed the video very much & look forward to more updated ones.
@GretchenBostrom
Жыл бұрын
This was such an interesting video. Great job!
@44032
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what Caruso would have thought about his death being included in a video about "the jazz age".
@LoriVanAuwelaer-fe4fw
Жыл бұрын
Welcome and oh hey y'all 😮
@gloriaseymour1395
Жыл бұрын
Came across your video very informative great job enjoyed
@The-Portland-Daily-Blink
5 ай бұрын
Robert Harron likely pointed the gun at himself and shot himself. How does a gun discharge after falling on the floor unless the trigger is pulled by a human hand? The saddest death, I believe will always be the death of little Olive Thomas. The other death, of Virginia Rappe was a miscarriage of justice, as Arbuckle was not the type of man to attack a woman. Rappe was also documented as having given numerous men the Clap, VD in other words. She was a Chippy, not quite a prostitute but close. Great video...
@christinecollins6648
4 ай бұрын
Arbuckle’s explanation of using the ice sounds suspicious. No reasonable symptoms would make you apply ice…there
@misanthropiq
Жыл бұрын
What a great channel! Thank you so much 🖤
@brianbarnes3393
Ай бұрын
Some inconsistencies in the Caruso section. He did not continue the performance at the Brooklyn Academy, but for the only time in his career, consented that the audience be dismissed. This is well documented in several biographies including those by his son and his widow. His last words, according to his widow, dealt with thirst, pain and being unable to get his breath.
@turtlegrams6582
11 ай бұрын
youtube > from Crete to Malta pt 3 (learn who really owns All medias since invention, perpetrators own documents) and modern day babylon (hollywood) connecting the entertainment business via Walter Veith
@aaronsaunders6974
2 күн бұрын
Hanon: i believe the later about the briefcase & his brother before I’d believe the story about movie
@valentinius62
Ай бұрын
Did the cops come and get Herron's corpse, and hand cuff it to stand trial? 🙄 Cops haven't changed a bit.
@clifforddriver9434
5 ай бұрын
Fatty Arbuckle was living in Santa Ana, CA, during the period.
@liamcragin
3 ай бұрын
Robert Harren died after filming the movie ‘Coincidence’? What a… well…
@_TheRam
8 ай бұрын
Someone’s got to make the fatty Arbuckle movie. It has everything you need.
@connieblack5276
Жыл бұрын
Loved it!
@michaelmcgee8543
Жыл бұрын
Pretty good!
@MrsABC7997
11 ай бұрын
So was Robert Herron the founder of the 27 club???
@michaelmcgee8543
Жыл бұрын
I have one of her silents.
@ariadneschild8460
5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry that lady's cat tattoo made me lose it. I had to zoom in to confirm that yes it's a back cat tatt. 😅
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