Interesting stats, out of the two I personally like 151 better. Great video mate🤙
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Same here mate, until I did the research into it, I didn't think they'd be so close!
@Vollspecht
Ай бұрын
And again you unsecret my secret thoughts, this time on PAF. Great video mate, happy to get the insights of an experienced one und maybe stay ahead of the trend 🎉 Edit: typo
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Scaperdaper
Ай бұрын
That bubble mew is beautiful though 😊
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
It really is!
@apache3660
Күн бұрын
PF is way underrated. It will have its boom time, when it’s gone, and people slept on it, stonks will rise! ⬆️ ⬆️
@PokeBim
Ай бұрын
great video big bro! If I can add something: if we say they get printed the same ammount, we have to give that 151 demmand is soooo much higher. The restock in Europe got eaten from providers within a week, and I have seen 151 ETBs sell for 80€ here in Europe. The demmand is the highest I've seen since evolving skies and celebrations. Cheers to everyone!
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Oh, definitely legend, the demand for 151 is just insane hey!
@therelaxeffectrelaxingsoun2548
Ай бұрын
@@PokeBim I really hope there’s a reprint, would love to open up a few packs and hold onto one for a few years.
@tomothechef
Ай бұрын
new pokeoz video, tuesday is saved
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Yeah man!
@FruitVideos
Ай бұрын
Booster bundles for 151 were sold out over night in the UK. Paldean Fates is still very much for sale every where.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Consumer sentiment talks hey!
@SaveHerbert
Ай бұрын
Paldean Fates Zard is so cool and the bubble mew too 😍
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Both beauties!
@kyleofwight8812
Ай бұрын
I saw the title and thought 'Naaaa PokeOz been smoking the good stuff' but this actually isn't a bad shout. I still think 151 has better long term future. It's multi generational Just wanted to try an emoji cos I can
id say an invisible factor to include is collectors sentiment: if you had to pick only one of the two sets after being presented the data, 151 would get that additional point for being more likely to hold value because of the kanto pokemons. they are always gonna hold value for generations and sets becuase they are OG.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Oh for sure mate!
@samersalama6275
Ай бұрын
I really didn’t think paldean fates would have done this well. I love what you said about how close they are based on the criteria.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
I still think the popularity of 151 will make it the better investment, but surprisingly close!
@samersalama6275
Ай бұрын
@@pokeoz91 yeah I feel the same but still it’s hard to compete with 151 yet paldean gates is doing pretty solid.
@wecollectwrestling8884
Ай бұрын
Winter is coming! No English reprint. 151 is going to keep going up. I find lots of Paldean Fates ETBs but 151 is gone asap once stocked.
@crumplehornedsnorcack
Ай бұрын
US/UK confirmed reprints already, not sure where you stay though
@wecollectwrestling8884
Ай бұрын
@@crumplehornedsnorcack US.
@Theu131
Ай бұрын
Yea check any of these channels , reprint/restock announced last week
@aleksanderlund8349
Ай бұрын
The fasts item to leave shelves was the paldean fates charizard tin in my opinion
@ChefJeff003
Ай бұрын
@@aleksanderlund8349151 booster bundles were gone instantly. I can still find Charizard tins occasionally. Just found 3 last week in a Target located in a mall
@hippyfamilytv
Ай бұрын
Both have pros n cons. However, a lot new/ex collectors started collecting because of 151. How about Japanese 151 with the master ball cards? Those are quite valuable.
@86Brasco
Ай бұрын
This is why the Japanese set makes the English almost obsolete
@splish_2
Ай бұрын
I guess I was very lucky with Paldean Fates, I pulled almost every SIR with no dupes. It's a fun set though! Mew, charizard, and gardevoir are all amazing chase cards
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Nice work mate 👌
@raysimms8555
Ай бұрын
Your welcome my friend 😀
@yaniv8792
Ай бұрын
I think there's one very easy criteria to see what people like more and the 'better set'. What can you find on shelves? Fates. In Brisbane,you won't see a 151 bundle or ETB anywhere at retail. Ever. I check constantly. Fates is everywhere I go, and there's always several ETBs sitting.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Popularity talks!
@graaack11
Ай бұрын
Definitely my two of my favorite scarlet and violet sets, would love to invest in some product of these!
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
You should!
@colbeygross1907
Ай бұрын
I haven't seen a 151 in the wild yet
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Looks like we're getting restocked in Aus!
@BryceBuildsBinders-4u
Ай бұрын
Another great video! Thanks for the content!
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@MattDennard
Ай бұрын
I collected both sets to master set and paldean fates is a lot harder with the 150 plus baby shineys really big set to master set through packs I watch how everyone sais 151 has a hard pull rate but I didn’t really find it 2 difficult and there is a lot of people with 151 out there already think paldean fates is slept on love the charizard mew gardivoir and Iona plus the gold cards it’s a big set great vidio
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
It's a big set hey!
@raysimms8555
Ай бұрын
I think paldean fates wins my friend great video 😀
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Thanks legend!
@user-nx1fp6fv6r
29 күн бұрын
The price of 151 is inflated right now because of scalping. The scalpers are the reason you can barely find stock.
@z2010ag
Ай бұрын
Understandably the bubble mew and zard from paldean fates get all of the attention but that gardevoir is a NICE card. I think it is being slept on and has very high upside.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
The gard is a beauty!
@EpicListening7
Ай бұрын
I think the Japanese shiny treasure ex is the better choice(paldean fates). Extremely cheap, very close in price among the top 5 hits, and you 're guaranteed few great hits with every booster box.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
I think both will be solid long term 👌
@JoRuben-c9c
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Helped me a lot
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@z2010ag
Ай бұрын
While not a display piece another youtuber convinced me that 3 piece blisters are a creat way to pack value in a small form factor for holiday sets. I believe crown zenith 3 pk blisters will be a great investment vehicle for that set since it takes up less room, high pull rates, and a loaded set
@apache3660
Ай бұрын
I have a pile of CZ blisters for this exact reason
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
3 pack blisters do gain well! Just not as liquid.
@apache3660
Ай бұрын
@@pokeoz91 yeah that’s true, lower entry price though, so people don’t have to commit as much to obtain sealed product.
@joshualudecker9778
Ай бұрын
I think looking at that PSA pop is pretty valuable, almost specifically for this 151 set. People are sending off those charmanders and squirtles left and right. Is that normal? Not really. The art is great but it's the nostalgia and overall collectability of that 151. "Gotta have all 3 evolutions of the 3 starter pokemon". I'm glad you think the booster bundles are a good investment. I have a case of them and a few UPCs. The UPC's are big though, probably not the best choice, might revisit them later.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
100% mate!
@ImBiscuitHD
Ай бұрын
As a collector, Paldean Fates was more fun to open but 151 is the replacment for the OG set we all treated terribly as kids! "Remember that Holo charizard you put in your bike spokes to make it sound "cool" well now you can replace it without selling an organ!"
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Hahaha love it 😅
@TRose18
Ай бұрын
Interesting video. I like 151 better for all the amazing SIR/IR artworks. Never really liked any of the baby shiny cards.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
I agree, I much prefer 151 👌
@bayleycoleman
2 күн бұрын
151 psa 10 gem rate is around 40% which is great for those with psa 10's.... creates a barrier to entry
@pokeoz91
Күн бұрын
Agreed!
@rollingpaper-x2u
5 күн бұрын
the paldean fates one looks better to me but both should be $100+ cards easily the paldean fates one is also shiny which over time will probably hold more value it also all depends on how much reprints each set will get also sold items on ebay seems to be more accurate than tcg player pricing i think they add the Japanese and korean cards to the cards market price on tcg player which isnt that accurate you have to see what the english ones are selling for and ebay sold items shows that better
@pokeoz91
4 күн бұрын
Agree!
@kobebetty
Ай бұрын
151 no question no comparison
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
For sure!
@vader4543
Ай бұрын
Psa pop rate are really nota good measure to know if a set is better. Look at moonbreon, psa 10 count is over 10k. Definitely not a rare card, but difficult to pull. This one card does prop up the value of the set, considering the amount of people hunting for it
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
I think it shows a cards ability to increase in value as a 10. Making it popular. But I agree, it's a loose measure at best.
@patrickdimech1971
Ай бұрын
What are the chances of seeing 151, particularly booster bundles in Australia again?
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
I'd be surprised if we don't. But if we do, they'll no doubt be sold out instantly!
@patrickdimech1971
Ай бұрын
@@pokeoz91 I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I feel like an idiot for underestimating how quickly it would sell out when it first dropped.
@Harden_is_goat
Ай бұрын
Do you think the 151 upc is a good investment
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
For sure!
@epic_collection
Ай бұрын
One question: is BGS penalising the cards when they grade them because they are curved?
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Nope!
@epic_collection
Ай бұрын
@@pokeoz91 ! Thank you
@heero854
Ай бұрын
PF is going to the moon imho. Bubble Mew and Gardevoir are amazing. Both are fantastic sets. Neither is better both have their place in a well diversified strategy. Bundles are super cheap, super small, take up a lot less room. Chases on the others are kinda mid outside of PKMN Center Stamp promos, which are a lot more in demand than the others. PF is only suffering because it's between like 3 sets and competing with other holiday sets already.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
It had some great artwork!
@86Brasco
Ай бұрын
I've had terrible luck with Paldean Fates.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Pull rates are a bit harder!
@FrenchLeprechaun99
Ай бұрын
paldae evolved, crown zenith and 151 are my favs and secret holos #tb
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Nice mate!
@robertromero8094
Ай бұрын
Paldean fates sells way more currently. Could be cause 151 price rising and harder to find, but if it sold as much as paldean fates, it would be sold out everywhere already.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
151 sells out like crazy though!
@robertromero8094
Ай бұрын
@pokeoz91 does it? I'm new started when Twilight came out. I can get my hands on a lot of 151. I'm placing my bets on paldean to be a bigger deal than 151. The future is bright. Good video bro.
@TCG_Pocket
Ай бұрын
What do you think about certain companies allowing people to send in their sets to get CT scanned for a specific price?
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Just did a video on that man!
@justinrodgers4834
Ай бұрын
Paldean Fates had many missed opportunities for baby shinies. They should have added Smoochum, Chingling, Munchlax, and Pichu.
@JohnnyCrambo
Ай бұрын
You think those missing Pokemon would have saved the set? lol oh man...
@justinrodgers4834
Ай бұрын
@JohnnyCrambo Yeah, actually, there's only been about four printings of each of these Pokémon, minus Pichu, so it would drive more demand of the set. Oh Azurill would've been a good addition too.
@JohnnyCrambo
Ай бұрын
@@justinrodgers4834 those additions wouldn't have done anything at all. Sorry man. Just the truth. Not everyone likes what you like, respectfully.
@justinrodgers4834
Ай бұрын
@@JohnnyCrambo I disagree, but it's okay! Edit: You seem like a very respectful streamer! Good luck on getting more subscribers!
@oliverhelbo3134
Ай бұрын
im looking to hold onto my very first sealed boxes of pokemoncards, im between 3 crown zenith etbs or 1 silver tempest booster box, what is better investment in your opinion?
@heero854
Ай бұрын
Both. CZ is the better buy IMO. CZ ETBs sell out instantly whereas the ST bb are still on the PKMN Center in US and EU I believe.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Both will be solid long term mate!
@dobermangroundzero82
Ай бұрын
I think paldean fates singles will be worth much more in 5-10 years. But sealed product 151 by far will have a more collector and fan base behind it paying some good cash to get there hands on them. I feel even celebrations sealed product will have more nostalgic effect in 10 years
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Yeah 151 has that popularity and nostalgia!
@kylefrinak7474
Ай бұрын
@pokeoz how do you feel about the 151 UPC?
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Love it! Just bulky to store and freight.
@dylanfitzpatrick9423
Ай бұрын
Paldean fates coulda used another 7 Illustration Rares
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
It could!
@riddickcze5492
Ай бұрын
Is Paldea Evolve still a better investment than these two?
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
I think it's all going to depend on reprints...
@newjones1754
Ай бұрын
That's not even a question really 151 beats anything in scarlet and violet
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
For sure!
@richardworrall9373
Ай бұрын
My hot(sh1t) take of the day....151 is overrated. Its a great set for sure but "the best set of scarlet and violet"? I personally don't think so. Paldean fates i think is better. That charizard is for me, the charizard we have been waiting for. It looks absolutely vicious and powerful, borderline sinister. The 151 charizard is fine but nothing like the paldean fates one. The gardevior(one of my favourite all time Pokémon) is just absolutely amazing and for me beats anything in 151 except the Zapdos(best card in the set) and the bubble mew is just insane. Again 151 is a great set but i think it not having the master balls was a massive missed opportunity. Then it would have been the best set 😂
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
I agree on the Zard. I feel like paldean fates just needed another half dozen IRs / SIRs to finish it off 👌
@livefree7005
Ай бұрын
Ok
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
👌
@MieXuL
Ай бұрын
151 x 10
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
👌
@tobiramatv6918
Ай бұрын
No Contest
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
👌
@LudwigPig
Ай бұрын
I’m Paldean fates all day. I have several cases stored away. About 400 packs worth of sealed product.
@pokeoz91
Ай бұрын
Wow! That's a big position mate!
@skylerwheeler3974
Ай бұрын
Gunna get destroyed in the comments but i think 10 years from now shrouded fable will be worth more than both of them.ive been back in the hobby since 2012 and for the most part in the long run its been the sets that there just isnt a lot of that hold the most value. Nobody really likes shrouded fable. That being said. The covid boom completely changed the hobby so the old ways of thinking might not translate anymore. We will just have to see.
@heero854
Ай бұрын
SF will be worth something decent, and I think it does have the capacity to be worth more because like you said... No one wants it. People WILL want it, just not at MSRP today. They will be angry about investors "gouging" in like 2-3 years. Someone just bought 10 cases of Kingdra and Greninja boxes at liek 168. People are stocking up. Cards aren't cratering. SF's biggest hurddle is going to be what the ETBs do to the prices, but a lot of people will probably skip it for Stellar Crown. We also probably won't be getting reprints for SF.
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