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@nyftn
3 жыл бұрын
great video about this product . but i'm assuming the software will be good enough to make it a very good starter for many people and if they like simracing they only need to get another wheelbase. but it's far from cheap like they make it look like.
@simracingyogi626
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro, where did you get the trackmaps in the back?
@boostedmedia
3 жыл бұрын
Etsy
@curleex3838
3 жыл бұрын
I own a t300 and im looking to upgrade but may i ask why people choose to have such high forces like in the dd1 and dd2, i mean like whos got the strength to run at 20+nm anyway, whats the advantage of so much torque? Thanks ✌🏻♥️🏴
@boostedmedia
3 жыл бұрын
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@paulalucia471
3 жыл бұрын
Patience is indeed a virtue. Bye bye G29 you’ve served me well.
@tryhardwaffles
3 жыл бұрын
Right there with ya
@MegaIronica
3 жыл бұрын
G25. Shhhh it might heures and get offended.
@RedcoatVikingYT
3 жыл бұрын
Bye bye TS-XW! :D
@HDB112
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedcoatVikingYT Sold my TX Leather now it's still worth some money :D
@reviewforthetube6485
3 жыл бұрын
It's 349.99 for just the base then for the boost kit it's a bit more then you need a wheel rim and pedals which will bring it up to 700 see people are going 350 yay lol but 70p is still amazing but yeah lol
@DomB_Fanatec
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Will. I just want to clarify that the CSL DD is not a hybrid stepper but a proper servo motor. And congrats on 100K subs! :)
@kontoname
3 жыл бұрын
Really impressed with those products! 👌 I don't even do enthusiast car simming but I will buy one of these since that is a pricepoint I can justify while not being a daily user. Would be awesome if it supports non hardcore products as well like Arma 3 for example, just for the immersion 🙂
@farv4207
2 жыл бұрын
Question, what does CSL stand for? & until I figure out what cockpit if any I want to get what is the difference between pedals & just using the analog inputs on the Mclaren GT3? Instead of getting a logitech etc I was thinking of getting the CSL DD 8nm, table mount and Mclaren GT3. That way I am half way once I settle on a cockpit. I have been learning the maps on ACC with the keyboard & mouse believe it or not and post some ok lap times, though the keyboard gas and brake are limited since they are either on or off.
@DomB_Fanatec
2 жыл бұрын
@@farv4207 Hi Farv, CSL stands for 'ClubSport Lite'. It is the series positioned below our 'ClubSport' series. But the CSL DD is a groundbreaking product where we were able to introduce direct-drive technology to our CSL line, which delivers superior performance (with the Boost Kit) than the now-discontinued ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5. Regarding the McLaren wheel, you can indeed use the analogue paddles as gas and brake, and with practice, you can be just as a fast as using a set of pedals. But it is generally preferred to use pedals, because it is a closer representation of reality, and it gives you more freedom to change your grip position over the course of a race, adjust settings more easily on the wheel, and so on. It can become a bit uncomfortable to apply precision gas and brake inputs with your fingers, particularly when fighting a lot of force feedback, but it is something you can get used to if you really want to drive this way, or if you are physically unable to use pedals.
@panicpetes7676
3 жыл бұрын
3:08 Bad drivers lead to a bad experience. That is true in more than one sense, especially for simracing.
@YayDanMan
3 жыл бұрын
I’m fortunate to have a CSW 2.5 and eyeing off higher end DD bases so this isn’t for me, but this is a major shift at the entry-level market which, while only on paper for now, I really want to see succeed!
@christopherlees3684
3 жыл бұрын
On the Fanatec forum it says they'll be replacing the whole line to DD. This 1 isn't for me either but a CSW DD, Yes Please
@fbvilela
3 жыл бұрын
yes! I'm with you on this one! recently got a CSW 2.5, upgrading from a G29. This should become the best bang for buck by a long way.... Hoping they sell a ton of it!
@ewr9667
3 жыл бұрын
2 great sim products in 2 days, hats off to thrustmaster and fanatec
@rynosraceroom
3 жыл бұрын
What did Thrustmaster announce?SF1000
@dnr3689
3 жыл бұрын
and I can’t afford either of them 🥲
@ewr9667
3 жыл бұрын
@@dnr3689 neither, think I’m going to have to sell some stuff along with my TM Open Wheel
@Leo-ry5fv
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they don’t work together 😭😭 breaking my heart
@ewr9667
3 жыл бұрын
@@Leo-ry5fv if they could 😍
@tonyogar6936
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. As an engineer I really did appreciate how you tackled this review. I'm somewhat fresh to sim racing (6 months) and been looking to upgrade from my G920, so i see this as a better stepping stone to the higher end DDs. And like you said, I'd be waiting on reviews, and if it turns out to be at least on par with the CS's, I'll be getting it.
@iFlippedYourPancake
3 жыл бұрын
This is the content I needed! Great job as always Will
@sunny113866
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best vids on this new wheelbase!
@adamsmv2512
3 жыл бұрын
Was just looking to upgrade from my TMX, the timing couldn’t be more perfect!
@japo1999
3 жыл бұрын
By far the best video on this huge news. The technical stuff to back up your thoughts on the different topics really make the difference between your video and other people's. God speed upload too for the lenght!
@Bartaaron04
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. Nice to see someone who actually knows what they’re talking about
@Kevin-vg5uw
3 жыл бұрын
But surely there will be a clubsport version to bridge the gap to a dd1, probably 12 or 13nm
@Sean_Lightning_OBrien
3 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking, a CSL DD for 5-8 Nm, a Clubsport DD for 10-14 Nm and a Podium DD for 20-25 Nm. Makes sense in my mind.
@silentp401
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that. I think they just want to replace belt wheels bases since they broker quicker. 5 nm for csl elite and 8 for csw 2.5
@Kevin-vg5uw
3 жыл бұрын
@@silentp401 they wouldn't take a product line away and more sales, when the can potentially make a few small mods to the csl version (dd version) increase size like 10 percent and have a 12nm version and sell it for a extra 150-200, it will sell easy. If they thought like that, then when they made the 2.5 they would of stopped the csl elite base
@TheInsaiyan
3 жыл бұрын
Makes no sense. Having one product to cover for 2 previous products makes a whole lot of sense from a manufacturing perspective. The torque boost kit virtually replaces the Clubsport.
@h1tzzYT
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheInsaiyan from manufacturing perspective - yes, from business - no. Because you need to have options to cover all price points which with csw and csl belt driven wheels out, there is a gap between csl dd and dd1/dd2, csw dd would make perfect sense to me
@TheNitpicker
3 жыл бұрын
CSW 2.5 was discontinued, it's not listed anymore for about 3-4 weeks, when they took it of the website. I guess a CSW DD is coming at some point after the CSL DD too
@mikediguiseppi7732
3 жыл бұрын
The CSW 2.5 is still showing on their website for me. The CSL Elite wheelbase is discontinued though.
@kristofferkling9567
3 жыл бұрын
It's not available for me either
@SackyX
3 жыл бұрын
Still available in the U.S.
@caicoschlieper
3 жыл бұрын
Change Region to USA/Canada and you will see it, in Fanatec europe site it´s not listed!
@leonardoaugusto5491
3 жыл бұрын
sure, fanatec may probably lauch a csw DD for a 500$ to 700$ mark, i bet the peak torque will be about 10 to 12Nm
@MasterBlaster69
3 жыл бұрын
I despise Fanatec and wouldn't touch one of these with a 10 foot pole but I think it's awesome that something like this exists. Things like this are really good for Sim Racing.
@SpacedudeGFX
3 жыл бұрын
Why do you not like Fanatec?
@nipdrops
3 жыл бұрын
Great news for simracing community. Couple things to notice: 1. It was natural way to go, to fill the gap between expensive DD bases and cheaper belts. 2. CSW 2.5 is gone from Fanatec site, so i think we will see CSW DD soon. I don't think CSL DD will replace CSW. 3. This 349 price is a marketing trick. If you want 8Nm you will have to play more for more powerful power brick. Add to that QR and you will pay about 550. Well, that's Fanatec's policy.
@Dagiantkilla
3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna upgrade from my g27 to csl elite. Had it in my cart. Not anymore. 😉
@bbbbBEOTCH
3 жыл бұрын
really? i wanna replace my g920 as all ive ever had or used is logitech
@Dagiantkilla
3 жыл бұрын
@@bbbbBEOTCH I'd rather the csl dd for that price than the elite.
@bbbbBEOTCH
3 жыл бұрын
@@Dagiantkilla sry i misread i thought u meant to the csl dd =]
@scottmercuri238
3 жыл бұрын
And that would have been a great upgrade, it's what I did and I'm still very happy. But it's been a couple of years now, I hope the 5-8nm is enough. I recall once on my G27, before it'd been dialed in, I loaded up an old 70s F1 car, as I recall, I couldn't move the wheel properly, which if I recall correctly the power of this wheel will be plenty. I'll be waiting for a PlayStation version, especially since I have a Mclaren wheel which I'm assuming will still allow Xbox use. Can't wait for reviews to come through.
@bbbbBEOTCH
3 жыл бұрын
@@scottmercuri238 i plan on getting my uncle one and he plays only on playstation but is an old car head and loves racing...so hopefully something can b done
@Troupe426
3 жыл бұрын
Literally just upgraded to a CSL Elite...it's great but needless to say I'm feeling a little buyer's remorse now. Awesome news regardless for simracers to see a cheap DD coming to the market. Can't wait to see your review when you get your hands on one!
@rikone01
3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same situation, just bought the CSL Elite two months ago. Saw the April Fools social media and thought, Damn! :)
@lobuzz311
3 жыл бұрын
Sell it now, while resale values are still hot?
@philclarke7712
3 жыл бұрын
CSL hasn't become shit overnight. You'll be right. I'll see ya on track. 😉
@leonardoaugusto5491
3 жыл бұрын
While fanatec says goodbye for belt driven wheels, logitech keep their ''new" design hahaha the new G923 (Still based on G25/G27 project).
@matthewbyrd398
3 жыл бұрын
The Logitech is also about 1/5 of the price.
@div911X
3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting to hear your take on this 😎 Edit: you have no idea how much using the parts from the DD2 for demonstration helped in this explanation. Thank you!
@frankdiehl8749
3 жыл бұрын
12:08... And that's how Fanatec will pocket an easy 100 bucks or so on every unit sold. Everyone and their dog will order the "boost kit" as well, and they know this. And what do you do with the whimpy PSU once you've got the real one? eBay? I like the concept, but Fanatec's business model smacks more of Apple with every passing day...
@Scoobydcs
2 жыл бұрын
apart from the people who know how to make their own ;)
@MrMikap74
3 жыл бұрын
'With the standard power supply, peak torque is 5 Nm, this is almost the level of a CSL Elite Wheel Base. But there is also the Boost Kit 180, an optional larger power supply unlocking the full 8 Nm.' Don't be suprised if that optional power supply will cost an additional 100-150 euro. And ofcourse the new wheelbase will have some issues, like all new dd wheelbases had. I am about to upgrade, but I will go safe and purchase the CSW.
@alexbouska365
3 жыл бұрын
I’m super excited for this! About to purchase a Mclaren gt3 wheel, good upgrade from my Logitech.
@jensleck547
3 жыл бұрын
me too :)
@dustinglenn829
3 жыл бұрын
I purchased mine recently and its one of the nicest pieces of kit I own. Absolutely stunning unboxing, enjoy ;)
@dustinglenn829
3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey remember to use Will's affiliate link though. I forgot and contacted fanatec support but they couldn't give him the $50 so I just decided to over time donate tree fiddy at every stream I see
@alexbouska365
3 жыл бұрын
@@dustinglenn829 Thanks for reminding me!!! Gotta support my guy will!
@michaelbroek1
3 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhhh 100k subs you deserve it man. Congrats
@UnknownShotsUK
3 жыл бұрын
This will be my upgrade from the g27 lol great place to start with my sim racing
@Mjdecker1234
3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the g27 already starting sim racing lol?
@UnknownShotsUK
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mjdecker1234 nah not really it's basic entry, you can still race and have a good experience don't get me wrong but I think if you want to elevate yourself this is a great upgrade.
@Darlexis
3 жыл бұрын
Csl elite pedals are better for lap times afaik
@Davidizzleb
3 жыл бұрын
It’s always great to have your perspective in anything related to Sim Racing Will. If I’m honest, If it wasn’t for you and Barry from SRG I would have been lost in the sim racing world. Keep up the hard work!
@Shamsteak
3 жыл бұрын
Me over here with my g27. Time to upgrade
@deepenproductions
3 жыл бұрын
Same bro, I have mine on a homemade rig with inverted pedals and a 14 inch wheel. But this seems like a perfect upgrade
@aidenfielding9709
3 жыл бұрын
Got ya beat, I'm still sat here with my g25 from launch 😂
@Cagefighter
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is, you will enjoy the driving much more, jys well worth the investment
@MultiSteelking
3 жыл бұрын
@@aidenfielding9709 Haha, G25 club :D Hope CSL DD will be worth upgrading
@aidenfielding9709
3 жыл бұрын
@@MultiSteelking oh I can safely bet that it will be a night and day difference from a g25 ha
@StreetDreamzTT
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I watched this. Been watching a lot of your vids while gathering info to purchase my first sim setup further down in the year. Will definitely wait for this to be tested by you and others since the price is pretty good. Hope it lives up. I was pretty happy with the results you gave on the elite so if this is any better, might grab this instead. Time will tell.
@fullthrottlegaming1112
3 жыл бұрын
When an April fools joke became reality...
@unotoli
3 жыл бұрын
Germans don't joke on April first.
@Karltroid
3 жыл бұрын
And here I was thinking I’d have enough money for tuition this month.
@icePranesh
3 жыл бұрын
So close to 100k! Just want to say thank you for all the great content Will.
@pwking1115
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and your honest feedback Will. Definitely some great points and things to think about. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it is once it's released! Thanks for all you do for sim racing!
@stubbsyyy
3 жыл бұрын
ClubSport DD with 10nm of torque is on the way for sure.
@nickcoolen3577
3 жыл бұрын
My guess it will be 12nm
@stubbsyyy
3 жыл бұрын
@@nickcoolen3577 They will want to hit that 8-12nm sweet spot for sure as a lot of people seem to run their podium DD's at 40/60%.
@RoemaatPiet
3 жыл бұрын
Would then still get a dd1.. if i want 12nm constant use i would rather buy a dd1. Wouldn't want anything to run at max all the time. Headroom is important i think
@stubbsyyy
3 жыл бұрын
@@RoemaatPiet 100% agree with that as an endurance racing DD1 owner.
@barondebug
3 жыл бұрын
Great video Will and great review you made some good points keep it up and can’t wait till you have one in your hands. 👍👍
@jfhall
3 жыл бұрын
Want to know about the CSL DD - go no further than this video right here. Best information out there and appreciate your opinion on it! Great job!!
@Ispharel
3 жыл бұрын
I bought a CSW v.25 a month ago so really wanting to know how the CSL DD will stack up. Kinda upset tbh. Also wondering if the price of the CSW second hand will stay where it is when this thing gets in the hands of reviewers. Thanks for the video, super insightful :)
@Ispharel
3 жыл бұрын
@SimRacingNerd I have certainly enjoyed it for the last month of using it, took part in a 4 hour race at Imola on ACC and it didn't stutter once. It was absolutely sublime through the whole thing. This situation is the same with pre-ordering video games, until they're in the hand of real life reviewers we won't truly know how well it will stack up against the CSL Elite and CSW 2.5. I appreciate your input though man thank you! :)
@Ispharel
3 жыл бұрын
@@Leynad778 They've come a long way since the days of the CSR Pedals and Porsche 911 CSR Rim! XD
@ziljanvega3879
3 жыл бұрын
The CSW 2.5 is an ultimate generation product, and a known quantity: a solid wheel with great longevity and all metal construction and easy maintenance. For better and worse, there is significant chance that your CSW 2.5 will actually increase in value if they discontinue belt driven bases and the new line up turns out have issues due to all the plastic internals and instability from the modular design. I am not rooting for that outcome though, as I would love to see affordable DD wheels succeed.
@Ispharel
3 жыл бұрын
@@ziljanvega3879 Oh yeah absolutely, I wouldn't think that they would increase in price, however I have seen some of the old CSR wheels go for about £140 used on ebay so I hope they will keep their value. I'm the same as you, the more people we can get sim racing the better as this is one of the nicest communities I have ever been a part of. Thank you for your input it's really appreciated!
@ruiaz701
3 жыл бұрын
@SimRacingNerd Me too, as I came from g27 it was a big leap. But the csl DD is 5 nm with the extra one can go to 8nm. The csw 2.5 has 8nm. Who has csw 2.5 I think it is fine.
@lukeddd3362
3 жыл бұрын
This is a game changer.. electric motors for sim racing should not cost over 1000..
3 жыл бұрын
Good analysis as always. Engineering is all about compromises, between cost, performance and aesthetics. All hardware is at the mercy of the software and the hardware driver. BUT all being said, the price will allow many enter the market, that is welcome. Lot's of fun to be had still. Thanks Will for another good analysis.
@nakamuza2206
3 жыл бұрын
Love the depth and insight of the video! I really hope you get a pre release model to test so we can have a review we can trust before buying/ pre ordering 😁
@575motocross4
3 жыл бұрын
Damn what a time to be gettin into sim racing, im hooked
@succulentP
3 жыл бұрын
Dude i love your vids but this could have been 20 min shorter.
@punishunext5148
3 жыл бұрын
I love the assumption is that they must have cut corner or left out things because of the price. Perhaps, they decided to reduce their profit margin a little knowing they are going to sell a truckload of them, not too mention, they overcharged the crap out of the other ones, and don't feel they need to do that anymore.
@Flipsh0t
3 жыл бұрын
This is a super cool product if it brings some of that quickness of rotation from the bigger DDs at the lower price... the Nm doesn't bother me in the least. I've got a g29 that steers the car just fine but it does have a very slow auto rotation.. All that said I won't require this because Will's going to pull my name out of that hat for the 100,000 sub prize, right Will? Right? :)
@fanofentropy2280
3 жыл бұрын
The amount of dubiousness and doubt about this product seems proportional to how much $$$ one has invested in their current DD setup.
@martintop7880
3 жыл бұрын
it just how the scaling works you are one of the first adopters and you pay more.
@evovenger2860
3 жыл бұрын
Happy 100k subscribers!🎊
@andywright2606
3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Will, looking forward to you getting your hands on one for a full review. I just purchased the CSW 2.5 so won't be changing to this one but would still be very keen for you to do a full comparison video of the CSL DD vs CSW 2.5, and of course the CSW 2.5 vs CSW DD if and when that drops Cheers Andy
@laos85
3 жыл бұрын
Reliability is very important. It makes big different for me in purchase decision than the performance. Not everyone can send the product back.
@Bartaaron04
3 жыл бұрын
I was eyeing the CSL wheel fo the mid-term future, no matter how much better this is gonna be, it’s surely an upgrade from my G920, so I see this as a win no matter what personally
@h1tzzYT
3 жыл бұрын
yep if csl dd will live up to its expectations any csl wheelbase is basically obsolete. even belt driven version were massive upgrades from something like g29 or t150, i just hope this csl dd will have 100% plug and play experience than messing with bunch of janky software to get it running on each sim.
@iamgates7679
3 жыл бұрын
Love your content. It’s great stuff :) just a request: you’re one of the few creators i watch that doesn’t use chapters or time stamps - it makes it very difficult to jump around to relevant content. I know you’d like everyone to watch everything in full, but that isn’t feasible or practical for most folks - and therefore i end up watching LESS of your content, and not more. I’m sure other folks are of similar mind - maybe they can chime in or, hit the like button to show agreement, but, just a heads up. If you could add the chapters and time-stamps, I’d guess you’d get even more interaction :) Cheers!
@boostedmedia
3 жыл бұрын
I use chapters in all my review videos. have done since the feature was first implemented. I don't do it for videos like this as it ends up drastically reducing watch time and people end up jumping around and missing important surrounding context.
@4_14_fan
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who currently owns a Logitech g920 I don't think there's anything this wheel can do to disappoint me so I'll definitely be getting it anyway
@33Rod33
3 жыл бұрын
Im buying one for the simple fact of its size. I travel for work and it sucks carrying around a dd1. This little gem should make it easier 😍
@B-Diddy-6
3 жыл бұрын
great video Will, and very informative for newer racers who might feel slightly overwhelmed!
@ThaDon518
3 жыл бұрын
Great review appreciate your input for sure will.I have the csw 2.5 and I love it still after a year but definitely interested in this DD.
@mattfarrar5472
3 жыл бұрын
RIP to all my fellow v2.5 owners.
@0heck
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, the CSW 2.5 is still a great piece of kit. I bought mine last November and I imagine I will be using it for years going forward before I upgrade again.
@davedeja
3 жыл бұрын
I don't currently have a direct drive system due to their cost prohibitive nature, so I know almost nothing about them but this video was very informative and gave me a glimpse into the DD world. Thanks Will.
@brulaapgaapmeester8234
3 жыл бұрын
Dropping the Fanatec DD-wheel on the floor has unexpected advantages.
@boostedmedia
3 жыл бұрын
Lol! Indeed
@christoforospaphitis4090
3 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis and advice. However for me I think it's the wheel to get into. I have a DFGT and I think that anything will be an upgrade from that and from the price point of the Fanatec I think €400-€430 + 250 for a wheel (with shipping) it's going to be worthwhile as it will be cheaper than practically anything else.
@jopereirapt
3 жыл бұрын
DD not having a rotation limiter is a "fault", not a feature. Belt driven bases can also be built without rotation limiter, just don't put cables inside to the wheel - just like with DD bases.
@MrRealeyesrealize
3 жыл бұрын
For those freaking out cause you bought a CSW 2.5.. I wouldn’t trip. I’d rather have the final iteration of product that’s existed long enough to have a great reputation rather than use a product that has to compromise and is on its first iteration. Oh yeah and CSW is 8nm out the gate...
@MrRealeyesrealize
3 жыл бұрын
I do hope this entry level DD is a great product out of the gate for the sake of my friends on low end hardware looking to upgrade at some point though
@xkastl3z
3 жыл бұрын
I agree Will! I love my 2.5 and have no plans of another DD in the future! I have used the SC2 Sport, SC1 and DD1!
@reviewforthetube6485
3 жыл бұрын
Big stuff just keep in mind guys coming to fnaatec it's just the base for the base a wheel and pedals it will run about 700 after taxes still outstanding price for what you grt for sure when comapring to other belt wheels like the cswv2.5 was and even the tgt from thrustmaster I'm a huge thrustmaster fan of how the wheels feel I like the way they deliver the ffb and the weight feel they have but this right here the csl elite dd I'm def getting it lol even if I didn't preferr my csw v2.5 now that these dd have gotten better with the drivers and settings I'll def enjoy it I I know that and I will be getting the boost kit
@atrain132
3 жыл бұрын
It will be way more than $700 for all of that.
@reviewforthetube6485
3 жыл бұрын
@@atrain132 that's true but I heard heard sre lowering the price of the pedals so we shall see so I ki d of accounted for that tbh you can grt a cheaper wheel rim also I mean it could be 900 sure but that's the thing it isn't as crazy cheap as people are trying to say that's all but it's still amazing price for a DD
@RedcoatVikingYT
3 жыл бұрын
WEEE HYPE!! Farewell, TS-XW!
@johnmifsud6007
3 жыл бұрын
For someone coming into this with no pedals or wheels, I hope they have some sort of bundle. If not then it will end up costing close to what they already have on their website. Good video breaks it down for someone new like me. I do like optional desk mount though, suits me
@ProSimRacing
3 жыл бұрын
Great video with some very good advice there buddy, hopefully this new DD base will push other manufacturers to make more cost-effective DD bases as well.
@mje19D
3 жыл бұрын
To think I just bought a DD2 and only use around 9-10nm of torque....It would have been some serious money-saving if this was released earlier.
@boostedmedia
3 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. Totally different motor being used here and we don't know what it's characteristics are yet. It's not all about the strength.
@KyleP133
3 жыл бұрын
Your motor may be more accurate at 9-10Nm than this one will be at 8Nm with the "boost kit". I dont think I would feel iffy about having a DD2. This thing is intended to be entry level, and most of the improvement here is going to be in production and warranty costs for Fanatec. This is a significantly simpler system and should print them money moving forward now that the R&D is complete.
@thomaswyatt199
3 жыл бұрын
For me the most exciting thing is the new quick release.
@adriangabba
3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@benvella1728
3 жыл бұрын
@@adriangabba to ragequit swiftly and efficiently, saving precious tenths! Why else?
@essa28_fsr
3 жыл бұрын
Assuming they’ve got it right I think this is a real game changer. Unfortunately for me it’s not on my wish list seeing as it isn’t compatible if PS4/5.I’ve heard there’s more to come and more dad’s to come with more console support. Times are interesting personally I’m hoping for something from Thrusmaster ........ Massive congrats on the 100K
@IDontTalkToCops
3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back Will! Nice little pre review. I reckon this could be good for someone like myself looking to upgrade from a G920 wheel but without the budget to spend the big big dollars on a wheel.
@HDRGuy
3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for reviews, This might be the cost saviour for all of us wanting a DD wheel with a tighter budget.. personally i just upgraded to a CSW 2.5 from a g920 and I'm not ready to have my mind blown again so soon. haha.
@YpowT
3 жыл бұрын
Really insightful video! Was waiting to pull the trigger on a CSW 2.5, as currently using an old Logitech G27. However this news came as a pleasant surprise, glad I held off and this is going to be a no brainer for me!
@jarrodclyne707
3 жыл бұрын
The upgraded power unit is 150 euros, or 130 euros if you order it at the same time as the DD.
@Danduncanguitars
3 жыл бұрын
Always the best, thanks Will for the great informative video 🤘🏻
@miknergaming6108
3 жыл бұрын
Great video Will, made the info fanatec released easier to understand, it might be something to upgrade to from my g920 i think
@Arnogorter
3 жыл бұрын
Speaking from engineering background - the carbon torque shaft is just marketing talk. YES it reduces rotational inertia. NO not at a significant level. Inertia increases exponentially when you place mass further away from the centre of rotation. The same weight saving 2x as far away from the centre of rotation makes 4x the difference. Get a lighter wheel if you want lower inertia.
@scottmeredith3359
3 жыл бұрын
Love your content... had to laugh though, this whole video was skeptical analysis until the end, where you wrapped up by talking about how cool and exciting it is 😆
@Chrislaw555
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video as usual. Look forward to your review. 😎👍
@williamfrance-
3 жыл бұрын
As you said the actual functionality of the wheelbase depends on more than direct drive marketing buzzwords. What kind of latency can users expect? How much resolution does the encoder provide? Will the QR feature the same amount of mechanical play that all previous Fanatec QR systems have had? Considering the price of a similarly performing OSW wheelbase, I REALLY hope there aren't any issues with this unit like there have been in the past or else its actual real life value will be drawn down to convenience alone.
@Dummies05
3 жыл бұрын
On paper look very good also the price, will wait for your review and we will see.
@FormulaProg
3 жыл бұрын
Less powerful than a CSW though and doesn’t work on PlayStation. That’s the catch.
@Dummies05
3 жыл бұрын
@@FormulaProg at the end will be up to your preference, of course they need to lower the price some sacrifice needs to be made, also this is a direct upgrade from an CSL Elite Base and that’s how we need to see it.
@TomGS
3 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@TomGS
3 жыл бұрын
@@FormulaProg ive got a feeling, they will release a PS compatible version. It will, because Sony, be a bit more expensive. Lets wait till they hit the market.
@Yadeehoo
3 жыл бұрын
Happy I bought my CSL Elite recently. The only wheel base available in EU now is the Podium. I LOVE my CSL Elite.
@adamr2390
3 жыл бұрын
congrats on 100k bro
@farv4207
2 жыл бұрын
Question, what does CSL stand for? & until I figure out what cockpit if any I want to get what is the difference between pedals & just using the analog inputs on the Mclaren GT3? Instead of getting a logitech etc I was thinking of getting the CSL DD 8nm, table mount and Mclaren GT3. That way I am half way once I settle on a cockpit. I have been learning the maps on ACC with the keyboard & mouse believe it or not and post some ok lap times, though the keyboard gas and brake are limited since they are either on or off.
@craigalexp
3 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to your review when you can get your hands on one.
@fritzcapet2101
3 жыл бұрын
At this very moment we do know not enough. Your comments and thoughts are very helpful. Thank you for these comments.
@dariantan7923
3 жыл бұрын
hi .. im new to simracing... was planning to get a dd1 to start with .. but with this launching in few mths..will u recommend me to wait or just get the dd1 as it is much better? and do u think it'll affect the dd1 resale value once csl dd launches?
@salmaanwadvalla68
3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna try get one this is so sick Side note it’s the same price as the new thrustmaster wheel on that note Are you going to review that wheel ?
@launchtv3863
3 жыл бұрын
Pre ordered one. New to Sim racing yay
@MrJaffa78
3 жыл бұрын
It would not surprise me if Fanatec have produced this to draw people in to their eco-system and away from TM at the lower end fully willing to accept minimal to no profit on the wheelbase. They know full well their wheels and add-ons are what make the most money, like going out to the restaurant, they don't make much money on food, the profit is the drinks and extras.
@FCB119
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a G27 wheel at the moment. I do have the Clubsport pedals but I think this would be a whole different ballgame for me personally coming from a G27.
@davidtsmith33
3 жыл бұрын
I just checked the US website and didn't see it. It's not available yet? Also, is it or would it be available for PS4/5 consoles also? Haven't seen mentioned.
@boostedmedia
3 жыл бұрын
No it’s not available yet.
@waleiam5150
3 жыл бұрын
Great video again Will
@TheDocDrey
3 жыл бұрын
I had 3 different logitech wheels in my life and I was happy with them, until I wasn't anymore. I got a CSL elite + loadcell brake last year, and honestly I love it. You get more force and fidelity, and the brake feels so good. In ACC i really don't want more force from my wheel, especially since the cars have Power Steering. So honestly, the new DD sounds good, bot compared to a CSL elite in terms of force it doesn't sound that compelling for me. Maybe in terms of fidelity? Can't wait for the reviews to come in
@ashleys4395
3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts are that in 1 years time after the release they will discontinue the 1.1 and the 2.5 in favor if this system. Here's a 1.1 in a direct drive with podium features. Want the output of a 2.5? Here's your power supply that would take the cost of the base from 1.1 cost up to 2.5 cost. Just a thought. We'll see what happens.
@scottySK
3 жыл бұрын
With conversion and GST added, $350 USD should come to $499 AUD... why do you think they add an additional $100 to our AUS pricing?
@Sa_He
3 жыл бұрын
Logitech and a DD wheel? Don't think so. They are selling the same wheel since the G25. They just put less in the box every time.
@boostedmedia
3 жыл бұрын
We’ll see
@musselicious
3 жыл бұрын
I understand that most DD and Pro stuff is not made for PS4/PS5. But it would be nice if there would be nice options for us Playstation players that don’t want to use a PC or XBox for sim. I hope Fanatec will release CSL DD version for Playstation similar to CSL Elite PS Starter Kit. If possible it would also be great if Playstation players could get more immersive stuff like Butkicker and Adaptive Ambient Lightning.
@arisp816
3 жыл бұрын
I've got the DD1 base with 4 different wheels. So if I want to get rid of that flex and have a proper quick release experience, I have to change and purchase 4 new QR2? And what about the base? As I see on the new one is connected via usb - c, rather than dd1 which connects with wires in to pins. Is that exchangeable?
@AOR_Dobby
3 жыл бұрын
I am in a conundrum, do I sell my CSW and get this? Or should I keep the CSW. This wheelbase seems way more reliable. I've had some issues with my CSW in the past.
@ExpBows
3 жыл бұрын
Going back to your console sim guide. Your recommendation was the CSL Elite, to get the best value with your money, without going full send sim rig with triple screens and all that. Now with the CSL being discontinued what do you think would be the best? Would it be a different brand now or would the CSL DD replace the CSL Elite for console players? You’re definitely going to need a new console guide once the DD comes out lmao, a 2021 version.
@boostedmedia
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we’ll update it once we’ve had hands on with the new DD base.
@andrewk332
3 жыл бұрын
The only bases available on the website right now are the dd1 and dd2. The elite and 2.5 are both sold out
@DanieleNofi
3 жыл бұрын
I think the most important thing is if this CSL DD will be better than CSL Elite and CSW ... maybe Fanatec based on the sales of the CSL DD will decide whether to dedicate itself completely only to DD
@rynosraceroom
3 жыл бұрын
irffb woke my g29 dfgt up ! way more that I was expecting🤘🏻🏁
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