I wish you would be able to side with pagan and fight the golden path and than he gives you kyrat
@TheMIEProject
9 жыл бұрын
TheManiac201 it would make a very boring game! DLC maybe? :D
@WandyMoss
9 жыл бұрын
jimmy tran It wouldn't be boring, it'd just be like the normal game except reversed, and obviously a big change in story line.
@eraezr
9 жыл бұрын
+jimmy tran You know that's the pattern I'm noticing with Far Cry games. Underdogs vs established power. At some point, the gamer starts to expect who to be the winner in the end?
@Killzoneguy117
9 жыл бұрын
+Supr iulmiantee No it wouldn't. When you find the Golden Path, they're literally confined to a single village in the absolute south of the country. Its a bloody miracle the army hasn't crushed them already.
@dingdingdingding5544
9 жыл бұрын
+TheManiac201 At the end of the game if you don't kill pagan he tells you "I'm giving you Kyrat, but I'm keeping the helicopter" also seeing at the end of the game how both Amita and Sabal are fucked up people it seems Ajay is the best person suited to lead Kyrat
@akibchowdhury9759
8 жыл бұрын
All you had to is wait at the damn table Ajay.
@adambakas13
6 жыл бұрын
Nice :)
@Filipz911
5 жыл бұрын
You mean AJ? 😂
@marlenevale1700
5 жыл бұрын
Filip Z no Ajay is his canon name.
@ltbtteraxius2598
5 жыл бұрын
He had one job.
@bit_ronic
5 жыл бұрын
@@marlenevale1700 that's a joke, the name of the character in gta sa is "CJ".
@bailey2296
8 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest. Pagan Min was the most fabulous person in the whole game
@apolloknight9521
4 жыл бұрын
Bailey ye
@SeriesofClu
4 жыл бұрын
Straight facts
@comradedima9791
4 жыл бұрын
@@SeriesofClu but my arms dealer boy jackal
@SeriesofClu
4 жыл бұрын
comrade dima HE AIN’T GOT NO DRIP MY MAN
@clawzx1195
4 жыл бұрын
Aj being the very second most
@salamanterix
7 жыл бұрын
Beginning of the game: Amita & Sabal are good and Pagan bad. End of the game: Pagan is good, Amita & Sabal are bad.
@deviantartguy0
6 жыл бұрын
Good nut shell.
@psychomantis1926
6 жыл бұрын
All three are bad.
@TrentM03
6 жыл бұрын
@@psychomantis1926 pagan wasn't as bad. Tbh, at the end, I wanted to work alongside him.
@psychomantis1926
6 жыл бұрын
@@TrentM03 he was still pretty bad. To me what i got from this game is that its not black and white. Sometimes all the choices you have to make are bad. Pagan was a brutal dictator. And amata and sabal were bad.
@ninodeoliveira5854
4 жыл бұрын
If pagan really did care about you then he would have taken you to China in his helicopter at the end.
@ollieg4169
8 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a DLC where you would fight the golden path after the secret ending where you have to wait.
@Cyprusfire72
8 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!!! Dear Lord, Far Cry 4 felt so damn incomplete to me, especially with the normal endings (siding with Sabal or Amita endings). I'm still wondering to this day, why they havnt thought bout making that dlc instead of primal. I have nothin against Primal, but why, UBISOFT, WHY!?
@maggi98mw
8 жыл бұрын
I think the "incompleteness makes this game even better, no matter what you choose, Kyrat is fucked
@Cyprusfire72
8 жыл бұрын
Markus Wiedner True. But, Ubisoft could have still done more with this game instead of looking to newer projects
@watchpug5225
7 жыл бұрын
GREEVZ I would buy it right here right now
@yamenay
7 жыл бұрын
or at the start of thte game you wait and fight the golden path
@luischavez1701
8 жыл бұрын
anybody else keep Ajay's mom's note through out the whole game
@owenbisal8007
8 жыл бұрын
yup
@luischavez1701
8 жыл бұрын
koii I still have it :3
@abhinavdubey8077
8 жыл бұрын
I have also have it
@OrdinaryLatvian
8 жыл бұрын
I read it from time to time throughout the whole game. :3
@nicholasreiss7077
8 жыл бұрын
lol yea isnt ut the only item that has the reccomended use of KEEP
@MC3pk
7 жыл бұрын
I dont think Pagan in a Main Antagonist. He never is hostile and doesnt really oppose Ajay directly. Pagan even gives Ajay the freedom to do as he pleases unlike the golden path. Sabal is using him as the son of Mohan to fulfill his selfish view of Kyrat while Amita uses him to conquer the whole Kyrat. Ajay even said to Amita; "Who else pulls the trigger around here?".
@Fenrize
6 жыл бұрын
As well as Pagan never actually does anything to kill/stop/slow Ajay down, it's said that he's secluding himself in his palace and most likely leaves everything to his lieutenants.
@TheIrland09
5 жыл бұрын
Then why does the Royal Army try to kill Ajay? Pagan could've easily stopped them or had them ordered to capture Ajay. Instead they shoot him on sight.
@biggiecheese5135
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheIrland09 Because Ajay is attacking them, they're simply defending territory that belongs to them, Ajay is the one trying to claim their territory for the Golden Path. It's made extremely clear in the intro scene with Pagan that he does not have full control over his army and they sometimes do what they want, even when it's counter to the mission. "Stop the bus, not shoot the bus. I'm very particular with my words, Stop, Shoot, Stop, Shoot. Do those words sound the same?" "But it got out of control" Pagan's soldiers were doing whatever they wanted from the very beginning, even when Pagan gave them very specific orders.
@k.k.2482
4 жыл бұрын
And in one of the DLCs he gives you things for pissing of Yuma. He literaly does not care about his higher people and care more about you. Besides making Yuma want you dead even more. He also does not control his army. Yuma does.
@DillxCorleone
4 жыл бұрын
@@biggiecheese5135 I get what you mean, but even when you are just roaming around in the nature and the soldiers see you, they shoot on sight - sometimes even shouting 'It's Ajay Ghale!'.
@TheKsalad
9 жыл бұрын
Like step-father like step-son DLC when? I want to hunt down the Golden Path with Pagan min
@benjaminpeterson6470
8 жыл бұрын
same
@ThemakaroniLV
8 жыл бұрын
+TheKsalad Pagan Min was Ajays real father, but yea, That would be awesome
@Divergent-ym3py
8 жыл бұрын
+ThemakaroniLV No, Mohan and Ishwari were together and had Ajay. Then Ishwari fell in love with Pagan Min and had Lakshmana, making her Ajay's half-sister. That made Mohan angry that Ishwari bared another child without him so he killed Ishwari as an infant and in return Pagan Min killed Mohan because of that. So Mohan was Ajay's real father as its said by Sabal so many fucking times. And Pagan was his Step-father.
@Darksangel09
7 жыл бұрын
I had assumed that Ishwari killed Mohan and fled? Was it said in the game that Pagan killed Mohan?
@thebaba29
7 жыл бұрын
Desi Dangers Pagan said Ishwari killed Mohan when you side with the Golden Path and choose to spare Pagan at the very end.
@BenHopkins1000
9 жыл бұрын
This is why they play The Clash's "Should I Stay or Should I Go?" at the beginning of the game. It's subtly asking should I STAY at Pagan's place, ignore Darpan's torture in the basement and fulfill my Mom's last wish, or should I GO team up with the GP, continue my Father's quest for vengeance, and finish a rebellion where the outcome is gray no matter which leader you side with?
@DON-lv2pd
8 жыл бұрын
duh.
@CandleKern
7 жыл бұрын
nice
@rytherat8810
6 жыл бұрын
Close, I think it's because Ajay had just come into a war so he doesn't know if he should leave kyrat or if he should fight the war and for fill his mother's wish. Of course, Ajay loves his mum so he stays.
@ghostbl33d65
3 жыл бұрын
If I stay there will be trouble. (Pagan) ... If I go there will be double. (Sabal and Amita.)
@noahsewell9615
7 жыл бұрын
no one going to talk about the song choice at the beginning of the game, should I stay or should I go.
@adamcummings20
7 жыл бұрын
bigboy99 bigboy99 Stay and finish the crab rangoon. It gets you the best ending.
@noahsewell9615
7 жыл бұрын
Dr. Henry Jekyll that is what I meant
@abbyniloingsigh7188
6 жыл бұрын
mind blown omg
@swiftorious2055
5 жыл бұрын
I knew about the that ending I was replying the game I was like I'm gonna stay
@drobviouslol
4 жыл бұрын
The best ending would be, Ajay puts his mother's ashes, he then becomes pagans stepson, kills the golden path and flies back to America with a smile on his face
@RyanHollinger
9 жыл бұрын
Achievement: Viewed by Far Cry 4's Creative Director and User Research Project Manager.
@MrInstanNoodles
9 жыл бұрын
Dude you deserve that achievement lol , you're really good at analysing games , have you ever considered making some videos about silent hill or resident evil ? Have you ever played Legend of dragoon on the psx ? that game was awesome, with a unique story !
@rifqihanief2909
9 жыл бұрын
Your far cry 3 symmetry theoty is awesome!
@vritngh
9 жыл бұрын
I know it was cool
@killdrac
9 жыл бұрын
Did I ever tell you... The definition of insanity?
@saintsbroyo5320
9 жыл бұрын
+Sick 10925 Its doing the same fucking thing.... over and over again YOU THINK IM CRAZY? YOUR FUCKING CRAZY
@John-dz6bm
9 жыл бұрын
4 people didn't like the crab rangoon...
@aguynamedkevin123
9 жыл бұрын
Now 5
@69Solo
9 жыл бұрын
Jason Beenders Now 6
@jolenemathews
9 жыл бұрын
Of course not, it had pit viper meat in it
@bliczb8772
8 жыл бұрын
+HippyTheIrishmen now 10.
@remembertotakeshowerspleas355
8 жыл бұрын
+Sir Nutz of Deez Now, more than 1 YEAR later, only 14 dislikes.
@ainsleyhariott4353
8 жыл бұрын
who else killed amita when she took the children
@Basjejo
6 жыл бұрын
I never got that cutscene. Does it depend on which missions you choose? Because I sided with Amita in the end but chose some of Sabals missions earlier.
@iansoca8144
6 жыл бұрын
You have to enter a specific town after you beat the game to trigger the cutscene. I don't remember which town, though.
@RSguideX
6 жыл бұрын
Tirtha is the south
@jakebutyeah5005
6 жыл бұрын
I no scoped her ass
@deviantartguy0
6 жыл бұрын
I hadn't realized they were kids.
@deathlullaby94
9 жыл бұрын
So, Far Cry 3 is likely revolting around the state of personality and mental while Far Cry 4 is more towards the political and religion effects. Interesting Ubisoft, interesting. Great theory Ryan, you're awesome :D
@abhisheksahu664
5 жыл бұрын
And farcry 5 is around cult
@zephyr1018
4 жыл бұрын
And new dawn is a wasteland survival
@Janfon1
4 жыл бұрын
And the cult leader from FC5 understanding his wrongdoings and attempting to escape his guilt vis suicide
@generaltobias3777
4 жыл бұрын
FC2 is your hired by the CIA to kill a man at any cost, even if that means destroying Africa to get at him.
@ogaucho6235
3 жыл бұрын
And far cry 5 is about religion and guns. Ubisoft communist confirmed lol
@-Minuano-
4 жыл бұрын
Pagan was a Genius, by making Ajay the king of Kyrat, the Golden Path would lose all reason to fight because they see Mohan Ghale as their inspiration, and to hurt Ajay would be to go against their own principles. In-fighting would happen and Amita and Sabal would be fighting over scraps of power.
@jackakakreanxx5587
2 жыл бұрын
The golden path might see ajay as “corrupted”
@johnson9705
2 жыл бұрын
@@jackakakreanxx5587 ajay almost single handedly obliterates the royal army, i imagine if he chose to side with pagan, he could have easily destroyed the small village they reside in at the beginning of the game.
@jackakakreanxx5587
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnson9705 but still Legitamacy is key in leadership
@jackakakreanxx5587
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnson9705 and I have a feeling Pagan might try to betray Ajay like he did the royalists many deacdes ago.
@RyanHollinger
9 жыл бұрын
*Pants very heavily* I'm finished... Not entirely proud of the outcome, but I'm finished. *Collapses*
@theLuckyMonkey54
9 жыл бұрын
Great job
@themajesticgoldenflyinguni1780
9 жыл бұрын
Ryan Hollinger Why arent you proud of it? It was great :D
@remembertotakeshowerspleas355
8 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Hollinger Hey now, You've got the lowest like/dislike ratio I've seen on youtube to date. Wasn't that bad
@Charcoal113
6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Hollinger I can imagine how difficult this was for you summarizing I think you did very well congratulations And I believe you did it very well and I Also believe the waiting ending is the better outcome
@RuggerDez
4 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly done.
@PingKerman
9 жыл бұрын
to be honest i liked the main "villan" so i waited 20 minutes and he came back and i joined him and i finished the game in less than 40 minutes
@RyanHollinger
9 жыл бұрын
Classy decision making.
@bonzibuddythehedgehog5367
6 жыл бұрын
I did that just now
@danieldudin4071
6 жыл бұрын
Jorgel I also did that.
@TrentM03
6 жыл бұрын
That was the first thing I did.
@Berny517
5 жыл бұрын
Same I thought what would happen if I waited
@jonathanmercado963
8 жыл бұрын
Man I wish there ending that you destroy the golden path and be with the Royal Guard.
@doubleback8205
8 жыл бұрын
You and me both
@owenbisal8007
8 жыл бұрын
that would be amazing I very much liked pagan
@joseandreslmg7124
8 жыл бұрын
Is kinda weird someone would support a dictator
@jacquelinex9100
5 жыл бұрын
Jose Andres lmg Pagan might be a dictator..but godamn does that man have some style.
@Andysgal797
4 жыл бұрын
Jose Andres lmg I like to think you would slowly Change pagin’s point of view and at the end you could turn Kyrat into a democracy
@shashwatpradhan3316
5 жыл бұрын
I gotta say as a nepali, even though it takes a lot of heavy emphasis on the maoist revelutioin, it never seems to be too direct or disrespectful, and I like the nod toward the living goddess Kumari by the game itself, it's pretty cool
@puhffy
8 жыл бұрын
i hate what they do with bhadra, that shit is fucked up
@zachmercer1065
8 жыл бұрын
+JT Yeah, it's pretty sad. Although the Sabal ending has her alive and she won't stay in the "goddess" position forever, she'll eventually be allowed to live a fairly normal life after she gets a bit older.
@reggiesmith2507
8 жыл бұрын
bhadra gave me a huge hard on
@maggi98mw
8 жыл бұрын
Ingame seh`s sixteen dude..
@callanc3925
8 жыл бұрын
16 is legal in my country
@blackred1032
8 жыл бұрын
so she dies huh? that one time I was playing I noticed someone talking to me on a phone or something saying bhadra dying or someone dying... but my house was loud that night... I was like who's he talking about? that little girl? turns out I was kind of right. to bad I didn't get to hear it straight...
@soap9277
8 жыл бұрын
fun fact: Ajay Ghale's (the protagonist) mother Ishwari Ghale was tarun matara
@hamza12ism
6 жыл бұрын
Soap plays Games then how was badra determined to be the next tarun matara
@Fenrize
6 жыл бұрын
After Ishwari's death of course.
@zeesunoo6950
6 жыл бұрын
Stay for 20 minutes in the beginning and Ajay Ghale will be Hakuna Matata.
@the_mr_leon-raccon_kennedy6842
4 жыл бұрын
Zee Sunoo lol
@soap9277
4 жыл бұрын
@Eidrian Angcaya I'll be honest, I don't remember even commenting this, so thanks for bringing me back here I guess.
@whiteysmit6653
4 жыл бұрын
It’s really sad to think how lonely Ajay really is. I mean he is being used by The Golden Path, and Pagan just leaves the damn country. Nobody actually really cares about Ajay, they just use him to promote their own political ideals, cause they know he is an insanely skilled soldier who can get shit done.
@2pakalypse
3 жыл бұрын
There’s always hurk
@MistahJay7
3 жыл бұрын
Pagan was the only one that did care for him tho. What was he supposed to do tho? He basically faked his death and went into isolation
@womp5364
3 жыл бұрын
@@2pakalypse fr
@holly9096
7 жыл бұрын
I blame Mohan for the mess Kyrat is in
@joecoolidge23
7 жыл бұрын
Mohan Ghale was originally a recruit for the royal army. He fought along side Pegan Min until Pegan betrayed the heir once the army had seized the palace. This betrayal took place in Kartik in 1987. Kartik is what I presume a northern city of Kirat. This was planned so Pegan could occupy himself as king over the land of Kirat. In a state of emergency, Mohan and the rest of the Rebels of the once royal army flee and hide. Mohan and the rebels' thirst for revenge on Pegan and his guard and in their state of emergency create the newly made army known as the Golden Path. Mohan Ghale marries Ishwari. Ishwari becomes pregnant with Ajay. Once Ajay is born Ishwari leaves Mohan to go have an affair with Pegan. This makes Mohan madder than ever and he swears revenge on the two of them. Ishwari has another child with Pegan. This child is killed by Mohan along with Ishwari. That is where the Golden Path became to be so if you want to blame some one for starting the golden path, blame Pegan Min.
@sukkmam
4 жыл бұрын
@@joecoolidge23 that's right Pagan is the bad guy,i've just see all Mohan Ghale's journal and i know why Mohan hate Pagan so much
@Iosef-if5dc
4 жыл бұрын
@@joecoolidge23 No, that's not what happened
@X315-x2w
4 жыл бұрын
@@joecoolidge23 ishwari died in 2014, and she is the one who killed mohan. Not mohan killing her.
@alvienam2334
4 жыл бұрын
@@joecoolidge23 You're wrong about a lot of things
@eraezr
9 жыл бұрын
I chose Amita as the Golden Path leader; I never liked her as a person though. Also wish she did not have to use that woman victim card on Ajay. I did spare both Sabal (I just hesitated cuz he was the only one who believed in Ajay in the first place) and Pagan. Good video. I also felt unsure at times while playing FC4. I mean yeah, one could have dismissed it as a typical case of a video game screwing with the gamer's moral compass but even then I did not like how Ajay was just forced like that to choose between Amita and Sabal. It was like Far Cry 4 was asking, "So which kind of asshole least bothers you?" Kyrat was just full of assholes. Asshole eagles, tigers, rhinos, rebels and dictator.
@sunnysidejoni
7 жыл бұрын
+Eraezr man... do I hate the f*&king eagles and rhinos in the game, especially the rhinos in the arena... those are such in a pain in my a$$ to run away from xD
@AugustSonne2988
7 жыл бұрын
JonnYNynja 75 use flametrower , that bastard dies in sec
@CandleKern
7 жыл бұрын
HONEY BADGERS!!!
@CandleKern
6 жыл бұрын
Explosives or the Signature weapons usually do them in xD
@antoniocovaciu7421
6 жыл бұрын
Jin Ruidmongm and the fucking Dhole s
@jamesdean5181
8 жыл бұрын
I saw the special ending of FC4 (first mission) when I played it for the first time. I just bought it and coulnd't wait to play it, at the crab rangoon table (lol) I forgot to press start and went to the kitchen to get my pizza out of the oven and when I came back I saw the cut-scene haha.
@magnusthered271
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@BD-jm2rj
3 жыл бұрын
*sees credits rolling* Well that was a shit game!
@yvngdende
9 жыл бұрын
Strangely, I played Sabal (the Elephant)'s missions, while favoring the skill tree of the Tiger (Amita).
@masonnero9038
4 жыл бұрын
I tended to try and ninja through the place. Even going so far as to stealth extire fortresses with only a knife.
@hvvnsent
9 жыл бұрын
I watched both the symmetry theory and this one... all i'm going to say is you've earned a sub! You're very intelligent and this video stands out against other peoples videos. Keep doing what you're doing :)
@RyanHollinger
9 жыл бұрын
IDK Awesome!
@G-ManXErlik
8 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Hollinger Did you always have that intelligence on you or did it come with reading books? If its the latter case, i'm going to have a long time with books.
@doughboywhine
8 жыл бұрын
+Arif Eren you just think hard enough. However, ideas introduced by book, games, TV, and teh internetz help you think even more.
@G-ManXErlik
8 жыл бұрын
Wynntastic 4 Thanks bro i'm going to try them all - though i'm fairly good with Games, TV and Internet (You can learn many things by shows like The Mentalist and House) but i'm absent-minded. I mean, i can't focus. Hope books help me up with that later. BTW how do we keep an open mind? My friends always make plans behind me and i only realize there are clues after they execute their plans.
@doughboywhine
8 жыл бұрын
With books you should probably read ones that are about a bigger picture or stuff like that I guess I mean about stuff in the society or different theoretical scenarios but what do I really know I just read Unabridged classic books like Treasure Island juet seems like those are the best to improve your intelligence. As with keeping a open mind I'm not exactly sure what you mean I guess just find something interesting.
@siddharthramananda477
8 жыл бұрын
when you side with amita at the end, she clearly implies that she would decide kyrat's future. this means that ajay would have no power when the game is over
@Hound851
3 жыл бұрын
I knew beforehand that both of she and Sabal were both villains, but she did not even try to convince Ajay to help her. Well, she said it was for the good of the Kyrat, but her tone of voice was truly intimidating unlike previous cutscenes.
@wilsondesmond8022
6 жыл бұрын
Pagan Min is by no means a good guy, he even admits that the terrible stuff that he did wasn't for any noble cause but for his own selfish pleasure. He is however the only one who admits his faults which sharply contrasts to his 'counterparts' in the Golden Path. Amita and Sabal attempt to bury their crimes behind the vague idea of a greater good and their predecessor Mohan tried to justify his killing of Lakshama and the subsequent breakdown of negations and possible peace in his personal journals, avoiding responsibility and attempting to divert it onto others. Compared to the slaving drug lord, the religious nut job, and the baby killing hypocrite it's not hard to see Pagan Min as a good guy despite his own monstrous deeds.
@yonglebongle3700
4 жыл бұрын
this. this comments wins
@Hound851
3 жыл бұрын
Both Golden path leaders think that they are doing what's best for Kyrat, but they ultimately just do whatever they want to the country. Not because they are crazy, but because they both have a tunnel vision and don't think things thoroughly. Pagan in the other hand does not try to justify his actions just like you said. He admits in the good end that he used the death of his daughter as excuse for his actions, but later realized that he was doing it all for his own selfish gain. The difference between Pagan Min, and Golden path leaders is ultimate honesty both to oneself and to others. When it comes to Ajay, we as players can see the big picture, if we try hard enough but most likely just got tempted to do few good deeds with wrong people and ended up ignoring his mother's final wish. "To believe in something greater than yourself, is to find Shangri La". To me, Shangri-La are the civilians of Kyrat. Ajay is only know who is actually helping them, but with the Golden path they just suffer more in the end. I'd like to think Far Cry 4 as cautionary tale about trying to find your calling and greater purpose, but losing your soul in the progress.
@gustajuy5983
4 жыл бұрын
Out of all Far Cry main villains, Pagan Min is definitely the most appealing character-wise. From a first person standpoint, siding with Pagan’s “offer” is greater than any promise the Golden Path could give to Ajay early in the game. pagan rules rebels drool
@afs2469
5 жыл бұрын
This game shows who ACTUALLY have table manners
@caseyboudoin1948
4 жыл бұрын
The prime gem of this game is being able to kill Sabal and Amita after you learn about their bullshit. Then I imagine Ajay grabs the nearest chopter/car and heads home.
@DillxCorleone
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like that too. The fact that you can kill Pagan Min in the chopper after you 'spared him' is great. I didn't kill him, but it's great that Ubisoft still gives us the options, unlike in other games. You can even find De Pleur locked in a cage somewhere in the open world.
@orlandofurioso7329
Жыл бұрын
Or takes over Kyrat, my headcanon is kill Amita, spare Pagan then kill Sabal so that Bhadra lives as a daughter to Ajay
@Henrado17
8 жыл бұрын
I didn't feel connected to this game as much as i did far cry 3 because of the idea that pagan min wasn't really that bad of a guy and that i honestly wanted to be on his side.
@jred3133
8 жыл бұрын
Same from the first opening seen I wanted to join up with Pagan min and go and take down the golden path, I really want there to be a DLC were you can join Pagan min(although probably won't happen sadly).
@normundsozolins2391
4 жыл бұрын
@Sauce Mahoganykind of, but he did it for a reason and with anger instead of "fun". some people might see only him as really strict of a character and try to side with him.
@acidicali7776
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't want to side with Citra in FC3 either tho lol. Far Cry isn't a very roleplaying game
@TheBroGamer14082
3 жыл бұрын
same to be hoenst. missed opportunity.
@masonknowles4491
9 жыл бұрын
Ubisoft: "I did not know that"
@RajeshKumar-iu9ge
8 жыл бұрын
:D
@nex6939
8 жыл бұрын
I beat the game today. I chose Sabal because Aminta wanted to destroy the temple. I thought it was foolish to destroy it. I didn't agree with Sabal with making the one girl a goddess. But when I saw Sabal killing those people at the end, I realized none of them were good. Aminta was so extreme with destroying the culture, Sabal was a crazy religious radical, & Min was a dictator. One that was very oppressive. None of these people were good.
@paulc2573
8 жыл бұрын
+nexsixtynine thritynine I decided to kill everyone in the end haha.
@zeyzerx3722
8 жыл бұрын
Min was the good guy here, well to you atleast. Wait 13 or 15 minutes in the very beginning of the game in the table and don't move, you'll get an secret ending.
@zeyzerx3722
8 жыл бұрын
Min was the good guy here, well to you atleast. Wait 13 or 15 minutes in the very beginning of the game in the table and don't move, you'll get an secret ending.
@nex6939
8 жыл бұрын
No One I know that ending.
@hawkshunted
7 жыл бұрын
+Erk Yup, no one is the good guy here. Not even Ajay, as he was killing lots of people only to scatter his mother's ashes, like what Pagan said at the end of the normal ending.
@GamingBlisters
8 жыл бұрын
I say squash the Golden Path (Amita and Sabal) and establish a new democracy as Ajay. And let Pagan fly away untouched.
@mattboyer9689
3 жыл бұрын
Yea that’s what I would do
@explosivestar1156
7 ай бұрын
Or even keep it as a monarchy for the traditionalists but a constitutional one
@Shenal_Pererira
4 жыл бұрын
What made me really like pagan is the fact that he was actually certain with his words.. he's the only man with his word in the entire game... that kinda personality is truly amazing...
@riolulover9784
2 жыл бұрын
You know it's funny, cause sometimes when I watch video's about Far cry 4, some people offer the idea of: "oh, if everyone's a bad guy, just kill ALL of them! Then Ajay can rule Kyrat himself and fix everything!" And..really? That's supposed to be the solution? I mean, don't get me wrong, Amita, Sabal, Pagan, all of them are bad in some way. But trying to just, get rid of ALL of them doesn't really work. Like mister Ryan stated, Ajay's lived in America for most of his life, and doesn't know that much about his home culture. Let alone running a country. How is he supposed to be able to bring back Kyrat from the state it's in? He doesn't have ANY kind of leadership experience, in fact, he's usually taking orders from someone else most of the time. I mean, yeah Pagan seems to think he'd do just fine but..it's Pagan. He hardly had control of his own army. I'm willing to bet if Ajay did gain control of Kyrat, it probably would've just led to the same result. The 'leader' retreats to his own personal hideaway while his 'lackeys' are the ones that hold the real power. The ones making things happen. Hell, I have half a mind to believe Amita and/or Sabal probably would've swooped RIGHT in once it happened and tried to take control themselves. Amita offering him 'counsel' to help govern Kyrat and Sabal offering 'advice' on what his father would've done. Then the country would've been torn apart by their competing visions anyway, thus leading to internal fighting, with the common people being the ones who suffer most. Probably leading to ANOTHER rebellion seeking to remove Ajay from power, and at that point, the cycle could probably go on forever. And, let's not forget that Ajay isn't exactly a saint either. Yeah, he tries to do the right thing a lot, and you can tell he at least does care about the people of Kyrat from the various side missions you can do, but the way he goes about it is by: assassinating multiple people, killing an UNGODLY amount of Royal army solders, who, let's not forget are still people with families too. That's what De Plur was meant to remind us of. And, at least game-wise: is THE direct cause of Amita or Sabal rising to power. They wouldn't have been able to overthrow Pagan without him running around everywhere doing their dirty work. He blindly follows their orders just..because. Never questioning them, never trying to offer a compromise whenever they disagree, he probably could've asserted himself as the de-facto leader of the golden path under the right of his birth if he wanted to, based on how people treat him because of that, but he never does. Though, I admit, he's probably one of the more 'morally sound' characters in the story. I just find it interestingly ironic how, the one character who's the least morally corrupt in this story, might also just be the one with THE most blood on his hands. And, really, isn't that just fitting for a game like this? Where there's no real good sides, just a bunch of different people trying to kill eachother? I mean it says a lot that the most sympathetic characters I can think of in this game are an arms dealer priest that used to be a warlord that survived a shot to the brain and is most likely insane. A radio station host who tries to peacefully turn people away from Pagan by spreading the truth, yet openly states he supports AMITA, a character similar to Pagan and has some..odd habits. One of Pagan's top enforcers who's only following him to keep her family safe, that also hosts the shanath arena, a place glorifying death and violence, where people bet money on who lives and dies. And two coked up crackheads that, are just stuck in Kyrat and have no way to get out of it, that also use Ajay as their guniea pig to test out their concoctions, squat on his property, and even kidnap him and send him off too said arena to most likely DIE in. This is why I personally think Farcry 4, despite it's problems, does still hold up even to the success of Farcry 3. It tells just as interesting a story, you just have to look a little harder to find it. Farcry 3 was about how killing could corrupt a single man, Farcry 4, was about how killing could corrupt a nation. And a detail I love about the ending, is how it almost DIRECTLY references three as well. Pagan mentions that the ashes of Ajay's mother, the thing that represents the 'old Ajay' was his excuse for all this. His way of justifying everything he's done so far to get to this point. He even says, quote: 'god damm if it isn't fun.' cause..he's done it too. He used Lakshmana's death, his own child, as an excuse to take over the country of Kyrat for his own..just like how Mohan used Ishiwari's affair with Pagan, to justify killing his own step-daughter....and like how Jason, the protagonist of Farcry 3, used his brother Grant's death to justify murdering to avenge him, when really it's just his power fantasy. If you think about it, Farcry is pretty much the one video game franchise that really shows you why killing is such a bad thing. Compared to most games, even other realistic FPS's, kind of just brush it off for the sake of fun. Makes it all the more sad to see the current state of the franchise in 5 and 'new dawn' where they pretty drop that angle and all bigger interesting story for...the sake of gameplay? I don't know, I haven't played through Farcry 6 yet but, from what I can tell, it's just more of the same. Not to say I hate it, don't even think it's bad. I just wish Ubisoft wasn't afraid to make us feel morally compromised like this anymore. I played through new dawn myself and, from a purely gameplay perspective, I think it's great!..but, I could replace it with pretty much any other apocalyptic shooter out there and have a similar amount of fun. Hell, FALLOUT is the more interesting game about a similar concept to me, and it's an RPG wearing an FPS's outfit for god's sake! 3 and 4 though? They were more than JUST fun 'shooty-shooty bang bang.' They had depth, weren't afraid to tell you the real truth about what you were doing, the situation you were in, and why, if this was something that actually happened in real life? It'd be awful..and I really respect that. They had the best of both worlds. Anyway, enough of my overly long ted-talk TL;DR: Farcry 4 has no perfect, or even right answers and I respect it for being realistic about that.
@Core-od8ng
2 жыл бұрын
Now we get to play as pagan (far cry 6 dls pass) to be able to understand him more and kyrat's lores
@therpdkg4760
2 жыл бұрын
That was the most awesome read ever oh my gosh great job, You should really make a video on this.
@nukesrus2663
9 жыл бұрын
Now I'm sad that I killed pagan min with an RPG at the end when he flew away in his helicopter
@lucasmccreery2988
9 жыл бұрын
+MrDeagle50Cal did you get his pen knife and the 500 000 rupees?
@rondooripla7177
8 жыл бұрын
+lucas McCreery I got 250,000 rupees
@rondooripla7177
8 жыл бұрын
+Rondoo RIP LA From Pagan
@edwuncleriii3798
8 жыл бұрын
no a good question where does pagan go when he gives you kyrat
@jonmehr4724
8 жыл бұрын
You can shoot his helicopter after he flees and kill him
@memoofjacoboarbenzjuanarev9724
8 жыл бұрын
I think he said India or one of the other made up countries next to kyrat witch I would like to see.
@MrRushhour4
6 жыл бұрын
China
@lisa-lr8dh
6 жыл бұрын
Captain Jack Sparrow Well, he came to Kyrat from Hong Kong. Either he's headed back there or he's gonna seek refuge in a neighboring country like India or Nepal.
@womp5364
3 жыл бұрын
probably back to Hong Kong
@alexbucsp
8 жыл бұрын
I´m really scared how close this video is to my thoughts while i was playing the game! I always felt like both Amita and Sabat were really hypocrite in all the game. Really good job, man
@jhonsmith8425
2 жыл бұрын
"All you had to do, was wait at the damn table, Ajay"
@ohwaitchristian
9 жыл бұрын
8:11 I swear that image is going to be the death of me. 😂
@Hound851
3 жыл бұрын
Hail to the king!
@privateerbouncher9622
3 жыл бұрын
The discussion of Tiger and Elephant is symbolic between Golden Path and Pagan Min. In King Min's Kyrat, it says that the Elephant is big and glorious like Pagan Min. If that is true, then Pagan Min was provoked by Golden Path (as he tells Ajay) and then attacks Golden Path with his Army and Guards, who protects their territories. Golden Path is the Tiger, who goes for any Royalists they can find, to attack them as their prey, because they want to attack so they think they can survive. However Amita and Sabal is described as the "Two-headed Elephant" in King Min's Kyrat.
@rupitbhandari-studio.death8100
6 жыл бұрын
Basically, Min is the Handsome Jack of Far Cry 4.
@Larotian
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! I’m playing through Far Cry 4 again after like 8 years & this was very informative and entertaining.
@handicui960
6 жыл бұрын
When you fought Yuma, you were shown in the dreamy hallucination world the exact words that Amita says at the end. I was like... shit well it's too late to switch side now!
@jay-t1030
3 жыл бұрын
Far Cry 4 has the best lore and backstory out of all the the entire series so far.
@thewaytodown
9 жыл бұрын
I really hope they make a dlc or a remake of the game, that you can fight and help alongside pagen with destroy the golden path. That would be fucking awesome. should I stay or should I got now? Don't you fucking move!
@JklesChay
5 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that my favorite character in Far Cry 4 is Pagan?
@paganmin9795
3 жыл бұрын
nope :D
@TheLatiosnlatias02
3 жыл бұрын
J-kles Chay Pagan has been my favourite.
@harrisonqu8359
7 жыл бұрын
Destroying the golden path DLC that some people want would be extremely disappointing. As we all know, at the start of the game, they only have one village in their possession as their hideout. Destroying that will only take seconds. An interesting dlc but a boring action one.
@dragan3659
6 жыл бұрын
Harrison Qu actually a good point. But I think they meant in way when the Golden Path controlled most of Kyrat
@frogglen6350
6 жыл бұрын
Harrison Qu Uh, this is a video game. Ubisoft could just make up a scenario where Golden Path takes over the country.
@justurordinaryperson7215
4 жыл бұрын
Years late but , the enemies in shangra la are blue the same color as the golden path and the protagonist is red the same color as the royal army.
@will-cf4ee
8 жыл бұрын
Watched both of your far cry videos, you have my sub man.
@burritobites9165
4 жыл бұрын
I love how ajay turned into a normal young man into a gun expert ninja assassin killing machine
@burritobites9165
4 жыл бұрын
wsufhe gisuhs when did they said that???
@burritobites9165
4 жыл бұрын
wsufhe gisuhs wow I dint even know that thank u
@adamcummings20
7 жыл бұрын
Amita = too woke Sabal = too brainwashed
@SrTNick1
5 жыл бұрын
Replace Authoritarianism with Totalitarianism and you're golden.
@lydierayn
3 жыл бұрын
So, the best ending is the one where Ajay Waits for Pagan Min...
@mad1478
3 жыл бұрын
Something told me throughout the game is that pagan min only formed a dictatorship as a way to keep the country intact and was only temporary.
@Creeper0224
4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a game where we get to fight alongside the villains to bring down the good guys
@Bourgly
Жыл бұрын
I hope everyone gets to experience a story like this game again. A story that gives you second thoughts about the side you're on the more you pay attention to it. A villain that seems more like another supporting character in the narrative and/or leaves most doubting they're even evil in the first place. We may never get writing like this ever again, which is a shame.
@anagabyrm1
8 жыл бұрын
Man you blew my mind. This is just awesome.
@justinwhaley1288
3 ай бұрын
This game is still amazing today
@michaelmartinez9042
9 жыл бұрын
ur farcry 3 symmetry theory was awesome. This was cool to explains quite a lot. But think of it this way, if ajay simply waited we wouldn't have a game to play
@SuperUniverse
3 жыл бұрын
It seems that choosing Pagan Min's side is probably the smartest choice. Stay in the dinner table long enough and he comes back. Taking you as his heir then reform Kyrat after purging the rebels.
@Hello_MrJ
3 жыл бұрын
Finished the game this morning and I’ve been in shocked the whole time! Sabal and Amita both used ajay for control of kyrat. No matter who you choose as leader then both had bad intentions, Yuma payback mission basically shows what sabal will go if he became leader word for word. I fulfilled both parents wishes I spread my mothers ashes and killed min for my father.
@snozzlehead92
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it kind of bothered me how you're only given the illusion of a choice, and how the true nature of Sabal and Amita are only discovered in their post-game encounters. Well, you do see a vision of what they'll become, but in previous Far Cry games, such hallucinations have been "unreliable narrators" and we didn't know if what we were seeing was really a vision of events to come, or something imaginary (like Ajay turning into a Yeti). I would have preferred it if more definite hints about these 2 characters' dark motivations and intentions were revealed in the game itself well ahead of time, so that it could guide our decision in a more accurate way.
@vqpaki
Жыл бұрын
the amount of times i’ve played this game man. by far the best damn game i own
@MacTavish002
8 жыл бұрын
Men I needed this I finished the game but I don't know too many people who play games and nobody to discuss. I needed a deeper analysis thanks.
@joe-nh2bm
3 жыл бұрын
Thats what I like about farcry4 people complain about the main story but I think theres just alot of information on the main story just sprinkled around
@psycho-analyticgamer7452
2 жыл бұрын
I know it's been 7 years but this is A++ content! I've been working on an analysis of Pagan Min for the last 3 months and you just gave me new interesting perspectives that actually are reinforced by the Far Cry 6 DLC of Pagan Min and his perspective of the Kyrat situation :) Although, I wouldn't argue that Pagan Min's character is good by any metrics, but he is a lot better than Amita or Sabal as Pagan murdered the child King to gain his position as the King of Kyrat. Regardless, wonderful video! and thank you for furthering and inspiring introspection
@njgaming3322
2 жыл бұрын
So the “canon” ending would be to not kill Pagan and let him give you KYRAT after fighting with The Golden Path.
@Xx_HD_xX
8 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos and truly shines a light on the depth of Far Cry. I have to add something though. Did you notice the symbolic use of The Cult's "Should I Stay or Should I Go?"? It plays when the credits start rolling and I think it's another interesting hint of the choice you have. You can "stay" and avoid all the chaos or you can "go" and drown yourself in it.
@petarmilic9729
7 жыл бұрын
Far cry 3 and 4 are the original AAA artwork masterpieces, along with MGS5 and W3. Love their writing
@spikethedragon341
2 жыл бұрын
there's should be siding with stepdad option, wait 13 minutes like a gentleman and get an anti-golden path campaign after scattering mom's ashes instead of just the secret ending.
@peak_chilly7722
6 жыл бұрын
Pagan did nothing wrong
@timjackson4533
4 жыл бұрын
Except kill a cook and probably his familey when you escape him and had other innocent people killed
@augingma5518
4 жыл бұрын
Griffith did nothing wrong
@abhisheksathe123
7 жыл бұрын
That was some real deep shit man. U've earned a sub.
@amenhotep7704
7 жыл бұрын
LMAO i had bad feelings for both Amita an Sabal i actually wanted to side with Pagan since the starting
@jkchannel3149
6 жыл бұрын
yes you can, its an auto win
@philipshearer5286
6 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a dlc where you play as Mohan, and the co-op is Mohan and pagan during the first civil war.
@ThekaiserXD
9 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Simply just!
@abbyniloingsigh7188
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, Abby from Cork here. I'm a huge fan of your videos and I have enjoyed them for months since discovering your 28 days later vid. You often have well thought out and very well edited video essays on films and shows from my childhood that aren't commonly covered (such as Scooby doo 200s films). However I never in my wildest dreams imagined that you could have made such an incredible piece on my fav video game of all time, Far Cry 4. I fell in love with this game last year and spent hours discovering Kyrat and seeing the pieces of the story fall into place. I was searching for a vid that talked about the themes and storylines in depth and clicked on this; when I heard your voice and realized it was you my face it up cos I knew it was gonna be good. Sorry for the long comment but I hope you see this and know that seeing this video just made my night. Keep doing your thing boy!
@alberteinstein2706
6 жыл бұрын
I Will Choose pagan min if I Can....But I cant becouse fcking Ubisoft want Me To become guilty :(
@codybagley2358
6 жыл бұрын
I loved this video Ryan. I like how characters that appear to be villains at first are more complex than meets the eye, aka Pagan Min. Your analysis of Amita and Sabal were spot on and what I was feeling while playing this game.
@rytherat8810
6 жыл бұрын
Me playing FC4: hmm, Amita, sabal or pagan min? ... ''but why isn't badrah an option?! She's the only good character I know Ending: YOU KILLED HER!!! Noooo. Me: *quits game*
@rytherat8810
6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else thought that too?XD
@TheLatiosnlatias02
3 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with Badra?
@Hound851
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLatiosnlatias02 She is some kind of child prophecy, and only smart person in Golden path. Sabal forcefully turned her into some kind of spiritual leader, and Amita killed her.
@TheLatiosnlatias02
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hound851 That's terrible for her to feel wedged between these two
@Hound851
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLatiosnlatias02 Yeah, if I remember correctly she talks about it, pretty early in the game.
@Ir0nF1st924
9 жыл бұрын
That was awesome, thanks! I ended up siding with Amita halfway through the story because her preservation tactics were much better for Kyrat in the end, but I killed both Amita and Sabal at the end and spared Pagan.
@leetorry
6 жыл бұрын
Just realized that Spec Ops: The Line and Farcry 4 are similar in someways.
@TheLatiosnlatias02
3 жыл бұрын
How?
@Hound851
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLatiosnlatias02 They are both cautionary tales about lying to yourself, and not seeing the big picture. To put it simply, joining the Golden path ultimately gave Ajay an excuse to shoot, stab, burn, bomb, and drive over people, just like joining the military did in Spec Ops. Also getting good endings in both games, requires the player to NOT shoot the main "villain" of the game, but instead understand the similarities between them to not end up as hypocrite.
@TheLatiosnlatias02
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hound851 Interesting concept since both parallel with each other.
@Hound851
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLatiosnlatias02 Yeah. However, I haven't played Spec Ops, only seen youtube videos about it, so there might be even more similarities. Stories about human nature, especially darker ones are my thing though so I'd like to play it too someday.
@TheLatiosnlatias02
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hound851 Have fun
@JCLazaro
5 жыл бұрын
I hope there's a version of FARCRY 4 where there's more game story after you wait for Pegan Min on the first part of the game
@thynaruto
8 жыл бұрын
I killed Pagan in the helicopter after putting mum's ash with laskmana, not know that is an easter egg at the first play lol.
@lolotrololo2275
6 жыл бұрын
We know from Mohan's journal: * Pagan helped Golden Path to end civil war * Pagan killed royal family member who was to take the throne, and proclaimed himself as king If Pagan tells the truth: * Pagan became insane after his daughter's death * Pagan was waiting for someone (maybe specifically for Ajay) to come and take the throne from him Interesting: * hunters are on Pagan's side * some dialogues between soldiers, why they joined Royal Army and why they are on Pagan's side * a note of dead Golden Path rebel who, I assume, commited suicide because of guilt for what he was doing for Golden Path
@yankeesoldier100
9 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!! It makes you think different of the game
@ZManZRat
5 жыл бұрын
Holy SHIT this is so goddamn informative. I didn’t realize how complex the plot was this is a very well done explanation.
@opticalbeast4947
4 жыл бұрын
You can actually beart the game at the begginning by waiting 15 minutes without trying to get away.
@alexrivas1993
3 жыл бұрын
Yup all of this could have been avoided if ajay just ate the damn food 😂😂😂😂
@angelovinagrera
4 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: Enjoy the crab rangoon
@rocioyea
9 жыл бұрын
as always fantastic analysis and totally agree
@noobs0and0clanwars
9 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, what a interesting video. You deserve more recognition for your work!
@thecommentsofyoutube7265
9 жыл бұрын
You should do more! Your like matpat from game theory
@DJspidey100
9 жыл бұрын
Expertly done, amigo. This particular video just about summed up my thoughts. And added even more than I was expecting. Kyrat can only be free if Sabal, Amita, and Pagan can't control it. Here's hoping Ajay does the right thing.
@Dumi232
4 жыл бұрын
Underrated masterpiece of a game and story , 5 and ND dont even come close to 3 and especially 4.
@justins8634
4 жыл бұрын
The story of this game made me so sad. In my second playthrough I killed both Amita and Sabal.
@everaldosantos5554
8 жыл бұрын
The thing i don't understand is how Ajay travels to Shangrila trough Kalinag's memories, what's with the five or six pieces of those tangkas or wathever they're called, that made Ajay travel, and waking up in his father's house?
@virgilio6349
8 жыл бұрын
drugs, lots of drugs... don't do drugs kids
@trustee7327
8 жыл бұрын
Thankas are paintings that tell stories,. Ajay is simply reading the story it tells, you RE simply playing out the story.
@trustee7327
8 жыл бұрын
+Paw King you're*
@everaldosantos5554
8 жыл бұрын
Paw King But how he get the paintings in some cave and wake up in his father's house with that painting in the wall, he's he sleep walking?
@conchobharkhan4167
3 жыл бұрын
Just wanna point out the symbolism of the elephant also had to do with their amazing memory. Sabal was the elephant because he remembered tradition
@jhk655
9 жыл бұрын
@10:20 origin is fighting against "mordernity"? what the hell is mordernity. lol.
@RyanHollinger
9 жыл бұрын
jhk655 It's my personal trademark on the word 'modernity'.
@americanmichigander
Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to see what lore I missed, I wasn't expecting a college paper on leadership. Nicely done
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