Excellent understanding of natural systems and principles, thanks for sharing. I will be including some of your ideas to my landscape design, and will be integrating pasture animals like your said, to increase cycling, and as a result fertility and productivity. I cant wait to see an update of what the farm will look like in spring 2014
@jamesprigioni
10 жыл бұрын
Yeah Geoff Lawton is the one who says" You don't have a slug problem, but a duck deficiency"
@VaughnMalecki
7 жыл бұрын
james prigioni I love it. You're on all the same videos with comments. I soaking it all in about another hear until I get my own Homestead. I'll be somewhat of a big deal after that. Just kidding. May God be glorified.
@xyzsame4081
3 жыл бұрын
@@VaughnMalecki I like to see that James helps out at fellow permaculture mate - the spirit of cooperation. Unfortunately this video does not have a lot of views but because I am binge watching, youtube bothered to show it to me anyway. Did I get that right they grow _rice_ in Vermont ??
@VaughnMalecki
3 жыл бұрын
@@xyzsame4081 I'm growing rice in Michigan
@katelynm8433
10 жыл бұрын
Buy his book: ground breaking information, not another book that tells you to lime the soil.. hehe. Me and my partner are working on establishing a homestead in the gulf islands that uses rotational grazing, perennial food systems, fungi and other gems in transitioning to a life less reliant on fossil fuels. . . so much inspiration from Ben's systems. Thanks for posting this...
@wholesystems
9 жыл бұрын
katelyn massy thanks so much!
@DrewDubious
8 жыл бұрын
all this information is readily available for free on the internet from even more experienced speakers.
@xyzsame4081
3 жыл бұрын
@@DrewDubious I have binge watched Geoff Lawton videos, and they are highly informative BUT there is value in having it all laid out in a systematic manner, by people working in different climate zones and environments !! Especially if a person wants to run or convert a larger operation (homestead, farm). If you get your feets wet with a garden (trying to apply _some_ of the principles it is only a small system after all) not much is at stake financially. However, if a person invests into land, equipment and so much time, having read several books from several authors that represent several climate zones, with different soils, pests, weather, worst case scenarios (extreme weather) is a good idea. Even Sepp Holzer got into trouble when doing consulting work for a a property that is in the same country (at max a 3 hour drive away from the Krameterhof but unlike the rest of Austria, the little state Burgenland partakes in the Pannonian steppe climate - not at all what Holzer dealt with). The woman that took his advice (and paid for it, that was not just informally during a course) was a rookie, no background in civil engineering, construction or agriculture, forestry. She did not have flat land, she had one hill - and a major landslide there. Damage and danger for a public street, she declared bankrupcy and also sued Holzer. I guess they settled, he bought her property and now lives there. I do not know the details but there must at least have been some neglect on his part, not warning her about starting earth work and water infiltration on the hill with that kind of slope (likely not enough trees to secure it). Or insisting that she must book more consulting by him or a civil engineer to make sure she would not get into trouble when unusual amounts of water would hit the hill - if I assume he did not give wrong advice for that terrain, but that it was poorly executed by a rookie. He does not have a background in engineering, he goes by gut in the mountains. But in that area IF a hill was prone to landslides it likey had fallen 500 or 1000 years ago, already. He had to be cautious as he made the terrraces, ponds (one of the reason the local government was skittish about his operations, there is a reaon such actions are banned resp need permission). But on the other had "weak" terrain had been eliminated (by going down in a mudslide) many generations before as there were dryer and wetter periods. Resp. the locals knew about critical areas and aside from maybe planting it if that was possible to secure it, they left it alone. Being the expert that sold his consulting work he also has to consider one major resource / potential weakness in the system - the inexperienced human trying to set up a system when there is a major challenge: a steeper hill. And to make matters worse a public road beneath it, so a major potential financial liability. Not that the Austrian government would allow property owners to degrade their land and risk landslides in remote areas. but the financial costs are much higher if public property is affected. One cannot even make a smaller pond without getting permission, but with a lot of marginal land, slopes, heavy rain, snow melt floods meeting saturated underground and clay soils - they err on the side of caution. It is telling that Holzer - who did great for his marginal property, and also successfully set up other systems in other countries - got into trouble in a climate zone that was very different than the difficult conditions he worked with for decades. I came across videos regarding mulching - that does not work for the Southern states althoug it would be good to have less evaporation. Paul Gautchi made a variation of mulching (he prefers wood chips) popular under the term "Back To Eden gardening". And it works great - in Washington state and many other regions. But not in the Deep South, and maybe also not in regions of India, I noticed that they do not mulch either. I do not know if there is a way to make mulching - be it with wood chips or something else - work in the Deep South but fire ants and termites (if wood is used either for chips or for the boarders) seem to be a major, major problem. and that comes from experienced gardeners / market garenders / homesteaders - not rookies. Georgia and Mississippi. Same for raised beds. Do not work in MS.
@sk8corpuz
4 жыл бұрын
thank you @ben Falk for the eloquent consolidation of tangible, applicable information, this should be in every elementary school
@xyzsame4081
3 жыл бұрын
approx. 30:00 swales on hill. One thing: if there is a lot of rain (let's say one of those once in a century or millenia rains that we have more frequently now) and slope and maybe bedrock underground. In very heavy or prolonged rain even good (but shallow) soil can get soaked and very heavy, and if you build the soil it gets heavier. Then a layer of water could develop on which the hill slides down. Deep rooting trees can prevent that. That could also happen with terraces. The stripes of trees should also help they hold down the system in stripes. And the more shallow roots hopefully also go into the ground. It might be adivseable to plant trees in the stripes between the swales. They will not grow as fast - they get less moisture, but that will make them go deeper. Once reason the trees now grow so fast is the abundance, they have it easy but in such situations the trees invest more into leaves and branches and less in roots - why would they. That also makes them more vulnerable in storms. See the firs (In central Europe) that are mid mountain trees but are planted in monocultures at lower levels where they do not belong (or pines in the U.S.). Firs have shallow roots - at least where they have it too good. If they try to come up between rocks they can dig in their roots just fine and the wood grows with narrow rings and is much harder then down in the valleys.
@Jefferdaughter
9 жыл бұрын
Another great presentation, Ben! But goats and trees co-evolved. As with everything else... management is the key. Have you seen the video or heard about the place in California that used a herd of goats to prune their trees? Olive and fruit trees. They control the weeds underneath, limb them up, and keep the centers of the mature trees open to allow the sunlight and air circulation the trees need to remain healthy and productive.
@wholesystems
9 жыл бұрын
Jefferdaughter Indeed, that's awesome.
@wholesystems
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks - mark is doing amazing things!
@carlynlundgren1477
10 жыл бұрын
Thank You, Ben; for all your hard work for us. There are a lot of good ideas for creating our own Land preps for our future food productions the way God and Mother Nature intended.
@GuitaristJohnChapman
11 жыл бұрын
Ben, Great presentation & sober analysis was on point! Yes,doing not talking is what must be done. I received my permaculture certificate/holistic land management from savory institute in 2011. Lived on Mark Shepard's 106 acres in WI; perennial polyculture, rotationally grazed pigs,cattle in alleys. I love that you are focusing on nutrient dense foods, medicines, staple food crops, as cornerstones of the system, as they should be, Keep it up! Love to visit sometime. Thanks so much! Best, John
@RyneODonnell
9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic presentation, Ben Falk, thank you for sharing!
@ncooty
11 жыл бұрын
Inspiring, informative, fantastic talk. Really impressive. Thanks so much for posting. Will certainly buy the book. I admire the honesty & whole-heartedness with which you've approached this endeavor & the thought you've put into it. It is most certainly artisanal craftsmanship. Your closing remarks were powerful & borderline poetic. Really well done.
@wholesystems
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much... really appreciate you saying this. Best, Ben
@marymann4476
9 жыл бұрын
wow, some people are actually finally doing this! there is so much resistance in NC where I live. i'm thinking of moving back to the west coast, just from frustration.
@bigbangpattern8842
11 жыл бұрын
Interesting insights on food storage and foliar feeding fruit trees! thanks Whole Systems Design
@wholesystems
11 жыл бұрын
Trees, shrubs - foliage in general serve as condensing surfaces - this is how "mist farming" works which is practiced in many parts of the world. Check it out. This is how they draw water from the air, essentially harvesting some of that water into the ground. They also do what you say as well.
@treebytheseafarms
11 жыл бұрын
I actually have the same kind of stove set up. +1 on it being the best thing ever, especially with a big family. The hot water loop saves us more than the space heating. I buy sawmill scrap for $15/cord, at least until I get my fuel forest established.
@wholesystems
11 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's quite as simple as you say - though I wish it was. I tried this approach for the first 5 years in my landscape over 8 of the 10 acres. Didn't result in nearly the kind of healing action I've seen where effort and human energy has been applied, plants seeded, trees put in the ground, animals grazed, water captured. Check out some of my other videos for more on this process.
@DrJohn89
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your insights.
@ncooty
11 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Hau: Substantial research in conservation biology & restoration ecology suggests that "resting" land is rarely as effective as other active measures to restore damaged ecosystems. Many damaged ecosystems now lack fauna that affect ecological processes & are inevitably affected by regional & global anthropogenic effects, so abandoning land doesn't return it to a pre-disturbance state. Also, hysteresis rsch suggests that restoration processes aren't just reversed degradation processes.
@Donnybrook10
11 жыл бұрын
great presentation. thanks
@CK-jd1kf
11 жыл бұрын
I sort of agree with you, and I think that something is permaculture. But I think we have a long way to go to get there, and the economic system is preventing us from doing so, and by doing so ensuring it's own collapse.
@Grizzydan
10 жыл бұрын
I have one entire side of my property, in fact, the largest part of the land as I'm on a mountainside and there isn't much flat area.. well my leech field runs up at the top of it, and I have grey water down below, which grows bountiful weeds! But I'm just so worried about growing food there that I may be contaminating myself and my family so I don't do it.. I even worry about the areas around the outhouses that were there 20-30 years ago and the area around the septic tank and everything below it.. I know no toxins were put in it, the family has been adamant about that. While chlorine does get poured in the well at regular intervals the septic has not been pumped in the 30 years since it has been installed and works just fine. The shower and washer go to the grey water line and we haven't been picky about using biodegradable soap so there is likely some contaminant issues there.. I've thought about growing willow or bamboo there and trying out grain or any type of biomass like you commented about.. I've heard that trees are the safest thing to grow near a black waste system, yet on the other hand I hear that trees will destroy a leech field too so I'm at a loss for what to do. This is the second time I've watched this film and I thank you for sharing it.
@matisa52
11 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you could even grow peanuts, they are grown in Nova Scotia :) You could search for it, I want to try them next year.
@bobbidouble3501
10 жыл бұрын
Have you tried growing cranberry in the patties? Maybe a mix would be better than this because it's an (albeit small) monoculture.
@manut251
10 жыл бұрын
did you know about Azolla? maybe you can organize this waterferns for your Ricefield,Chickenfood e.t.c.
@wholesystems
7 жыл бұрын
yes we grow azolla - amazing plant!
@ncooty
11 жыл бұрын
@20:44 The claim that trees draw moisture out of the air is a bit misleading. Generally, trees pump water from the ground into the air via evapotranspiration, which can push existing humidity levels high enough to trigger precipitation. However, that process relies heavily on air temperature, air pressure, & humidity (often drawn in from other areas). So, sure, trees affect the hydrological cycle, but they hardly "draw moisture out of the air." They increase humidity via evapotranspiration.
@xyzsame4081
3 жыл бұрын
24:30 Principles !
@dictionaryzzz
11 жыл бұрын
How is black locust illegal in Massachusetts? Its native to that state
@Banzay20
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all info! Im just little curious about your sewage and gray water system. I assume that you´r not hooked up on any centralized (govt.) system. I saw an youtube clip with Paul Stamets he used mushrooms as a purifier (reed bed I think) but it was just very brief instructions. Do you have any info on that in your book perhaps? Would love a complete guide on such a system but it´s not too easy to find. // cheers
@ArthurHau
11 жыл бұрын
Please watch my videos in Cantonese about growing tomatoes and potatoes. This is only my first year attempt to grow vegetables using (semi-)natural farming, and yet my soil is starting to improve (the previous owners used traditional farming and almost destroyed my entire backyard). Also, search for natural farming on youtube and you will see another guy doing it in his backyard. No tilling, no weeding, no composting. BTW, I am in Oregon which rained 2-3 times from April to August this year.
@wholesystems
11 жыл бұрын
Sounds great - got a farm or homestead to share where this is the case?
@PrimitivePeter
11 жыл бұрын
What nursery do you get your locust bolts from? And at what spacing are you planting for timber harvest (as opposed to making a living fence). Can you also recommend a nursery for seaberries? Thanks for the great talk!
@Risingnshouting
11 жыл бұрын
I struggle with the 'Peak _____ ' perspective. I just think that the oil based economy will naturally die away, much like vinyl records have in the wake of CD's etc. Something else will come along that will actually replace the combustion engine. I have faith in that. AND I love the rest of your presentation about permaculture. I have never seen seaberries anywhere in the rocky mountains where I live. I'd like to try growing them here. Keep up the great work :-)
@donnasmithdesign
9 жыл бұрын
Just bought your book, gobbling up your KZitem talks too! We are working on our own homestead in WV and excited to learn from your experience. I rarely post on KZitem, but thought you should know 2 ads for herbicides came on before your talk. I know most of the folks watching your vids know better, but if it were my content I wouldn't want it in any way connected to something so abhorrent. Here's one of them: www.bayercropscience.us/products/herbicides/capreno
@karencarol
8 жыл бұрын
+Donna Smith The advertising in KZitem is dependent on what you've been looking at, for me it was movies. (I know, I'm a year late!)
@karimbiri
11 жыл бұрын
the reason why Egypt (and most of north africa ) is not as fertile as it used to be has nothing to do with over cultivating, it has to do with the Earth´s Orbital Shift, look it up :)
@biomechanical1976
10 жыл бұрын
i wonder is the geoengenering actually contributing to "climate change"
@kylemullen1139
7 жыл бұрын
spud gun well with the plants extracting CO2 from the atmosphere counteracts fossil fuel input
@ificantdance
11 жыл бұрын
Okay. Cite your sources and I will.
@supraandarizona
10 жыл бұрын
***** Hey man, Google has owned KZitem since 2006. So, I guess what I am getting at is that Google can do what they please with KZitem.
@ArthurHau
11 жыл бұрын
Just minimize human disturbance and the ecosystem will work itself out. The only things that plants cannot generate are minerals; nitrogen and carbon are free as long as we have plants and microorganisms. Human can't regenerate minerals. The philosophy behind "permaculture" is far inferior to "natural farming" as it interferes with the nature using ignorant human knowledge. Don't even think about terraces; only trees and shrubs on slopes can prevent soil erosion. Read "One Straw Revolution"!
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