Few years ago, l was watching a classic car restoration. The interviewer asked, How do you get the paint so perfect? The gentleman answered; "l do this, l do that, but there's probably someone out there painting a tractor in their garage that'll have a better paint job!" He was right, fantastic restoration and perseverance.
@redrobgmail
8 ай бұрын
H,s & M,s came from the factory with a thin woven cloth strip on the radiator cover that had a rivet at each end and would fall off the top after the tractor got some age on it.I grew up with 1 of each on a dairy farm in the 50's and 60,s. The had me on the H when I was 4 yrs old in the hay field steering between the hay bales.
@user-yy6qb5jm5c
8 ай бұрын
Squatch: A felt type of woven fabric strip about an inch wide by about an eighth of an inch thick was used to protect the paint and stop any rattling. See if you have any in many your corners.
@johngibson3837
8 ай бұрын
That was my thoughts also a strip of fiber webbing seen on lots of stuff even on my 80s unimogs under fuel tanks for vibration/ware the paint on the h looks so good did try to find vidio of your new gun but failed so a reference would be nice. So nice to see you back doing what you do mate normality is returning
@mantovanoGT
8 ай бұрын
@@johngibson3837 here's where Squatch shows the new paint gun: Farmal "Preparation H" Project Episode #7 kzitem.info/news/bejne/sYSwnm1sjKekZ20
@bcbloc02
8 ай бұрын
That is the way it is on the old Deeres and that woven cotton welt is still available for purchase from the dealer.
@johngibson3837
8 ай бұрын
Thanks had no idea what it's called Mr bc
@Bellboy40
8 ай бұрын
Nice fitment on the hood. I have mentioned this a couple times before, but I really like your attention to the details on your projects. They take more time to do but the results are the difference between being ok and being great looking.
@earlwest7351
8 ай бұрын
I think it's time to apply some red, and I don't mean Dago Red (wine).😅
@user-hj1iq4kj3y
8 ай бұрын
❤🎉
@user-pr3nl1kx5u
7 ай бұрын
The hoes on the front part of the grill had a kinda like webbing belt , same on gas tank so it's not metel to metal.
@stevestrohacker8436
8 ай бұрын
There was a woven "strap" that would lay down in between the hood and grill as well as between the hood and gas tank. It is much the same as the wick for oil lamps. I've used anything from gasket material to thin leather, even a segment of innertube from a bicycle in between the hood and grill/ fuel tank. But the woven wick like material would be correct.
@davidvogel6359
8 ай бұрын
I think I remember seeing what you are describing on our H.
@wackowacko8931
8 ай бұрын
It's been 50 years ago now, but I think I remember my Grandpa's H had 2 small center drilled squares of cut up conveyor belt/tire/or other rubber material riveted in those locations on his tractor. They weren't very thick, and it had cotton-like reinforcement thread running through it in the cross section. It was an early model H, maybe they just stopped doing it early in the production run.
@JeffsFreedomGarage
8 ай бұрын
@Squatch253 - In the automotive body world, anytime there are unexplained but symmetrical holes in sheet metal that are out of regular site when everything is assembled, the holes are typically there from a forming jig for metal stamping, metal shaping, and measurement or alignment holes. During the assembly of body panels, Panel Inspectors would measure from the center of four holes in an X-pattern to ensure the panels were within 3mm of each other. If the measurement was greater than 3mm, they would flag the panels and an Alignment Man would tweak the sheet metal into place. If more than ten panels were off by 10mm or more in a workday, they would call for a Supervisor and a Tool Maker to have the panel jig checked for damage and wear, then the jig would be repaired.
@WrenchHead
8 ай бұрын
You just gave me a flashback. When tractor supply first came to my area, farmall mufflers could be had for $19.99. Well, I got 2 and made true dual exhaust for my truck from high school 😂 man that thing sounded good. PS- great work fitting that sheet metal.
@jmailbell
8 ай бұрын
That’s one of those projects you find yourself staring at and feeling good about every time you come into the shop. Enjoyed the video!
@aserta
8 ай бұрын
3:48 Felt strip, medium quality, not the horse hair you usually find in old instrument boxes, but not the clothing quality either. It's glued to the hood, just a little bit narrower than the feature on the grill it mates with. The compressed thickness is about 4mm but more than likely the original material would've been about 6 mm thick. The strip starts just about 2 cm from the lips of the grill, one piece. There is one small bump in thickness at the very center, top. Possibly extra felt or that it doesn't touch as well, unsure, been a while since i last saw it with my own eyes. I'd wager the glue is barge glue, they weren't exactly nice with the application and there's a few places where you can see the tale tale yellow wisps of dried glue. That particular one is very oily.
@gerardb.ducoudray8881
8 ай бұрын
.25" thick X 1" leather strip, contact glue down, will have that puppy vibrating in silence for years! Cuz I done it B4!
@clydeschwartz
8 ай бұрын
Excellent video my 1947 Farmall H had a thin webbing type of belt riveted to the top of radiator shroud where you showed the holes it was really thin material I am thinking so the hood didn't rattle
@arthurlake3710
8 ай бұрын
I know it was not on a Farmall but i think i remember on an old IH industrial engine had what was like an old web belt between the hood and the radiator shell. There is always the possibility i am confusing it with another engine we had so many different ones at work. If it was the IH power unit it was a UC135
@wagon9082
8 ай бұрын
Good Video. Nice to see Senior in the background. 🙂
@larrydavidson3402
8 ай бұрын
Great fitment on the hood, your attention to detail makes your projects stand above the rest.
@wilsonlaidlaw
7 ай бұрын
I would use a braided ribbon made from a robust cotton or linen material. We use strips of this as anti-rattle on vintage car hoods.
@petenelson6654
8 ай бұрын
My grandpa used to rivet a thin piece of belting or strips of rubber to keep the vibration down, I guess it was something that the dealership would do to help the farmers but it never got put into the Farmall manuals as it would admit there was an imperfection
@realliferepair9285
8 ай бұрын
You would be correct on the 2 holes,it called either antivibration or wear strip.I've seen them on other applications but for the life of me i can't remember where😁.i believe they were made of either felt or leather and would have had a metal strip that held them on from one hole to the other.its going to drive me nuts now until i remember where I've seen them😁
@shaneharrison4775
8 ай бұрын
When I was a kid Uncle Louie had on his M,Super M, C,and Super C and H all had woven canvas and still rattle stripson the ride joints at the fuel tank and radiator shell and also on the gauge cluster under hood molded and fastened. It's been obsolete for ages . Uncle Louie used canvas strips,or denim folded over itself 4x and copper rivets help hold them in place along with copper strips. The copper was softer than steel, and cheeper as he had copper rivets by the gross with all the milker straps and cow collars.
@bobbenford9621
6 ай бұрын
Hello Sir, My name is Bob Benford Indirectly got to know you through Kenny! I contacted Kenny over 2 years ago . I always wanted a tractor but didn’t have a need for one. I retired in 2017 and came across a 52 Super A. It was locked up and tried everything to free it but no luck. I bought it anyway. Now I have never did anything this extensive before. It took a complete rebuild. It took me 2 years. I got to be part of a terrific community of folks saving these tractors. I just picked up a 52 Cub. Engine is free and no leaks. I already have it stripped down and parts painted. Thanks to you and Kenny and Pete on Just. Few Acres Farm I have learned a lot. I just watched you and your Dad walk the salvage yard. That place is amazing. I have to ask, I noticed you had a BETHLEHEM STEEL SHIRT ON. WAS CURIOUS WHERE YOU CAME ACROSS THAT. IM FROM Johnstown Pa. Bethlehem had a huge facilities there. My dad worked there. Thank You By the way. Hope your eye is getting better Bob
@squatch253
6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I found the Bethlehem Steel hoodies on the internet, if you Google for them you’ll find them available all over. I’d post a direct link here, but the algorithm auto deletes anything that takes people away from here now.
@ralfie8801
8 ай бұрын
Toby, at the end, you laughed and said you bumped the clothesline again. In an alternate story ending, An angel just got his wings! God bless you, Senior, and Mom. Have a Merry Christmas.
@j81851
8 ай бұрын
What a warm comment glad so see a few good people with warm hearts still breathing. Keep it up I think us the minority still got a chance.
@ralfie8801
8 ай бұрын
@@j81851 Thanks, but in truth, hearing the clang when he bumped the hanging rods made me think of that old Jimmy Stewart movie where Clarence is waiting to get his wings. I haven’t seen that movie in 10 years or more, so I’m not sure what made me think about it either. 🤷♀️
@KennyKizzleRustyNutzRanch
8 ай бұрын
I have a large roll of some VERY good one-sided adhesive rubber... It's a 3M roll. I put it between all of the sheet metal mating surfaces. It's not very thick but it is very durable and very sticky. Works great. Might/probably could spare you some....
@thomashaley7657
7 ай бұрын
If there was anything there that prevented rattles and squeaks, I'd be willing to bet that it wasn't a strip of foam! My Sister-in-law's Dad should know. He restores old Farmalls and has a massive collection. I'll as him to watch your video and give his opinion. Great videos Brother. Thomas, Mississippi!
@Jimbo65203
8 ай бұрын
I very much like you working on your machines, and I'm glad your eye is now allowing those types of episodes for us to watch, Toby. I didn't grow up on a farm, but literally on the edge of town, meaning farmers were neighbors and I spent a lot of time on their farms. Again, it is fun watching you restore your tractor. Merry Christmas, and Happy 2024 to you and Senior. P.S. I'm senior's age.
@garyfeltus9801
8 ай бұрын
Looking so nice . The old guys that originally built that tractor would be proud to see that old girl. There might have been a rubber strip between the the hood and grill but you have thought there would be more holes to hold it in place.
@charlescastle5566
7 ай бұрын
Toby, we are so glad to see you back to work. Glad to see able to get back to work following your doctor's orders to get back to this place. I'm thankful to see your eye healed I know not all yet but your making great progress. Your in my prayers old friend.
@stuartstephens
8 ай бұрын
Model A Fords (as well as many other cars of that period) had woven fabric strips used to prevent rattles where the hood rested against the radiator and body cowl. That material is reproduced and readily available, and would look 'correct'. However, using that kind of material may lift the hood up too far so it won't align properly.
@TgWags69
8 ай бұрын
It's pretty easy to set up a DIY nickle or zinc plating set up for small parts. Those hood clips and springs would be perfect candidates for something like that. It's hard to paint springs and moving parts like that, so inexpensive plating would be ideal to keep if from aggressively rusting after sand blasting.
@markdavich5829
8 ай бұрын
Your channel is among the few I'm subscribed to and even even fewer that I chose to become a member of and as a content creator, I'm sure there's a certain amount of pressure that comes with that when you think about your members and subscribers. There was a comment that I made a while back when I talked about doing things I wasn't supposed to after I had cervical spine surgery. When I said that, I meant that I myself am typically irresponsible as opposed to being as careful as I should have been whether it was out of necessity or just plain stupidity - I think at the time, it was stupidity - Nothing in the shop was worth risking my actual neck over. As good as it is to see you back in the shop, I hope that you truly aren't taking unnecessary risks like I did. I'd rather watch plow day vids or early morning shots of the property... anything except watching you risk your eyesight. On the other hand, I'm probably in a class all by myself when it comes to doing things I'm not supposed to in bad situations and there's nothing to worry or feel guilty about at all.
@Pete-from-Tn
8 ай бұрын
Both of ours had the felt strip there. Both ends had the rivet in the holes.
@raincoast9010
8 ай бұрын
It always amazes me how many details there are to attend to, it looks really great.
@johna7661
8 ай бұрын
I like it when you start the episode with a complex assembly!
@j81851
8 ай бұрын
It makes me take heart to see this craftsman need take two. Lots of hope for me although I often need four or five takes to get it right...
@1crazynordlander
8 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing! Nice to see Squatch Sr. make an appearance in this one.
@ericsargent4551
8 ай бұрын
Great video!! Nice fit on the sheet metal. Thx for sharing.
@stevejohnstonbaugh9171
8 ай бұрын
Sweet job tweaking the hood for final fitment. Had no idea you would accomplish the tweak by hand on a bench. You sure know your stuff! 😊
@michaelshingleton1628
8 ай бұрын
I bet it is for a wear strip. You said the tank side is double thick. Although an anti rattle fabric sounds good as long as it does not trap moisture. What about a thin brass strip? You can spring it so it takes up rattle and it would be a wear strip and it will not rust or trap moisture. Love your channel.
@ormmeford2204
8 ай бұрын
You don't have to do it perfectly. We are all human and make our mistakes. I like the fact you share everything.
@halsnyder296
8 ай бұрын
I’ve had trouble with comments not posting. This started with KZitems last “update”. Seems to be ok again (at the moment) 😊
@squatch253
8 ай бұрын
I've been seeing new comments from you lately here on my end, so hopefully they are actually going through every time after all.
@frritter8253
8 ай бұрын
Thanks Toby... excellent video!
@johnd7288
8 ай бұрын
Looking good so far it will look like a new tractor once it's finished great job !
@dwjr5129
8 ай бұрын
Lookin real good. You make it look easy bro. Glad to see you back in the shop again. It does seem like that’s your happy place for sure. 👍🏻
@squatch253
8 ай бұрын
Sitting on the couch every day for almost a month was one of the hardest things I’ve ever done lol
@InquisitiveSearcher
8 ай бұрын
I remember when you said this would be a bit of modest amount of maintenance with the big project being a replacement of a gear in the transmission. But WOW! The result of the "project creep" is looking really good.
@squatch253
7 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, with the exception of the cracked cylinder head, I haven’t done anything yet that I hadn’t planned on doing anyway. This is actually a rather “toned down” restoration as compared to what constitutes a 100% proper job in my book 👍
@plantfarmpersonal5240
7 ай бұрын
Yes, I have a 45 w4 and there is some cork looking stuff still remaining around the part that the Bonet touches front grill and tank. Not sure if it was factory but I have it on mine. Thanks
@rickyjessome4359
8 ай бұрын
Another great video Toby! The body lines are perfect. Cheers
@geneguenther4325
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video Toby! Preparation H is coming along very nicely and getting close! All your hard work is really paying off! Thanks again and can’t wait for the next video!
@jefferystrange7476
8 ай бұрын
Looking good Toby. I admire your attention to detail. I put the same effort into the fitment of my tin work. Looking forward to your next video. Thanks!
@j81851
8 ай бұрын
Bravo Toby never give up never surrender great video you are looking good. It's great to see X231 and D2 type content again!
@robburley9494
8 ай бұрын
And more paint when your up to it, first class job keep it up
@merylpelosi8485
8 ай бұрын
Good to have you back. Your hood fitment and gaps rival Porsche factory. Considering the parts source(s).
@stovebolt448
8 ай бұрын
Well coming from and old (77) year old hot rodder, your attention to detail is outstanding, you should place 1st in class and who knows what overall, well done.🙂Your kind of caught between a rock and a hard spot on your air cleaner, clearance on the fuel tank on one side and not much hood room for the intake pipe.😋
@gusthefarmer5608
7 ай бұрын
My opinion is that those grills never came with an insulator but I could be wrong. My 1940 H doesn’t have those holes in the grille, but that could have been a later change. My only concern with putting a strip on the grille is that it would lift the hood and mess up the body lines.
@sixtoes2313
8 ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Everybody !
@claysmagicalland9097
8 ай бұрын
Just when I thought Squatch was gonna break out a jig to correct that tin he starts wobbling it straightness! LOL
@jankotze1959
8 ай бұрын
Magnificent as always Tobie
@josesardinas7660
8 ай бұрын
I remember people used to use rubber hosing to protect the inner edges of the holes, that way they could slide the hoods in and out without worrying about scratching anything. I get that's not pretty "orthodox" but it got the job done 🙂
@smitty1952
8 ай бұрын
thanks for the answer regarding leaving body parts unpainted tillSpring
@Denis-tu1pd
8 ай бұрын
Nice to see you at full speed 👍 again . Awesome video I can't wait to see you on those bench projects. Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family. From Denis and family from Santa Rosa CA.
@alexthomas3075
8 ай бұрын
My grandfather had one of these when i was a younker and his had a cloth gasket type strip with two flat head screws holding it down on that ppart
@kevinblack3223
8 ай бұрын
Happy to see you have the chief inspector checking on you.
@squatch253
8 ай бұрын
Yep Senior’s project that day was to replace the vise on the workbench 👍
@michaelwest4325
8 ай бұрын
Sounds like you got vision like mine now, my right eye has damage in center and can't see precise or close, gives me challenges doing some things, like reading a micrometer or 1/64th line! Your other eye will take up the job and you'll get in the habit of working around it. Wonky eyed or not you got that tin straight! Great progress!
@mouseyou12
8 ай бұрын
Happy Holidays to you.
@jimwoidyla5139
8 ай бұрын
I have seen something like a woven burlap strap about 1” wide before as an anti-rattle.
@elliskinney5731
8 ай бұрын
The gastank on my Farmall M had what appeared to be a cork material glued on it. I cut a strip of inner tube and glued it on with silicone. I kept it back slightly so it wouldn't show. Ellis
@johanpeters4427
8 ай бұрын
I am glad i found you i just bought a H Mccormick on en auction i want to redo just like that , that gaves me ideas
@squatch253
8 ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome aboard! If you want to see more H stuff, I've got this whole project organized in a playlist on the channel here, with all of the episodes organized from the start to the latest video for one-click convenient viewing :-)
@johanpeters4427
8 ай бұрын
@@squatch253 yes I really appreciate that that help me out a lot thank you so much
@michaelscriffiano9267
8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@thirzapeevey2395
8 ай бұрын
Looks good. Continuing to pray for you.
@ronaldbrown5745
8 ай бұрын
A lot of old cars had a cloth type material across the hood rear support.
If it wasn't for everything else being a nice shiny red, the 2-tone difference of the cover & grille having that semi-gloss patina would be great if everything else matched. Would be a clean rustic. Still looking great though.
@bobcrone6151
8 ай бұрын
I was admiring the same thing on that bare metal. This project is a thing of beauty!
@duanebolen543
8 ай бұрын
There was a one inch wide strip of belting Honda radiator shroud. And mine also had a strip over the gas tank.
@duanebolen543
8 ай бұрын
Mine was a 1940 H.
@deanreinke1148
8 ай бұрын
There was a fabric type whelting at that point
@brycewiborg8095
8 ай бұрын
I don't recall any protection for the tin on the H Dad bought new . It was 10 years older than I am. It would have been over 20 before I drove it. It had been overhauled once that I remember, but possibly more times. When my brother painted my M he trimmed a rubber strip for a hood gasket. He is more particular than I. Thanks.
@qpooke
8 ай бұрын
A strip of leather between the hood and the front grill surround. Our old H has something like this.
@wemedeeres4105
8 ай бұрын
My John Deere’s have strips separating the tin work in places they’d rub together, but then again they are by far a more superior tractor so it goes without saying 😉😉🤣🤣🤣🤣😂…..that ribbing aside I’d assume even a strip of thin gasket material would make a world of difference in preventing the metal on metal wear as well as minimizing vibration noise. However as stated in the past these tractors don’t see near the use they once did so unless you’re planning a major life change that’d require more out of that tractor I think it’ll be just fine the way it is! 😁
@rogerallen6644
8 ай бұрын
No eye twitching on that hood! Well done!
@cndream1
8 ай бұрын
Also, Brown Aircraft Supply, Rubber Chafe Material, or perhaps even better for your application is Teflon Chafe Tape also from Browns - very thin and slippery
@edwardcaseyjr5490
8 ай бұрын
Great video, i hope everyone has healthy and happy Christmas keep up the good work 😊
@jeffreysteed5914
8 ай бұрын
The “rivet holes” may be forming holes. There would be a pin in the die that would hold the part in the proper location using those holes as the die comes down to form the part.
@michaelbaumgardner2530
8 ай бұрын
My 47 super A has a wear strip at the radiator, it has 3 flat rivets holding it on...Looks factory.
@burgo0019
8 ай бұрын
1/16 Canvas strapping for the anti rattle on the hood with copper rivets
@bobcrone6151
8 ай бұрын
Dude saw a few minor issues with the fit - took hood to bench and bent down on it a few times, and … viola. Fit like a glove!😎 Mad skills.💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 Great stuff!
@sterff8990
8 ай бұрын
Will you put a flapper/rain cap on your muffler? Some people hate them but, I like them. Then there’s the debate of which way to position them haha. Good job on the sheet metal!
@Hopalong..75
8 ай бұрын
We just put a tin can on the pipe to keep the rain out, plus it was fun to see how high it would go when we started the engine.
@perrymclennan868
8 ай бұрын
Yes it had strip of belting there to stop were my dad had one
@ronshumway1
8 ай бұрын
Those 2 rivet holes are probably for the same sort of anti-rattle material used on Model A Fords. Take a look online for that part and see if it suits.
@sierraspecialtyauto7049
8 ай бұрын
Hood anti-wear strip would have more rivets--probably every 3-4 inches or so, and certainly at each side of the center rise. Maybe the outboard holes are for stud-mounted rubber bumpers? But they would be on the parts breakdown.
@johnbize5736
8 ай бұрын
Sure wish we could see the remaining parts painted sooner rather than later. Could you set up a small, heated paint booth in a Conex box?
@billandkathihensel3087
8 ай бұрын
I THINK it had A wear/raddle strip, (not certain) I think I remember seeing on on my H when I was A kid.
@robertwinton2649
8 ай бұрын
Practice makes perfect❤
@Pete-ln4vu
8 ай бұрын
My TA diesel had material like a 1" ratchet strap.
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981
8 ай бұрын
Looks great thanks for sharing
@steamfan7147
8 ай бұрын
I remember seeing cotton webbing and rubber strips on various H and M models I have worked on over the years. Maybe war production vs post war??
@rickbray7100
8 ай бұрын
Just think only 3 months until spring and the painting can start.
@lordcaptainvonthrust3rd
8 ай бұрын
Nice work, Squatch
@jimmieburleigh9549
8 ай бұрын
Am I only one thinking if the colors of the engine hood and rest of sheet metal looked like the radiator hood to call it good and clear coat it as is. It's got a antiqued brass/copper vibe I'm really digging
@j81851
8 ай бұрын
I like that it is a cool "nostalgic" idea promotes real world "patina" which is very appealing.
@ivoryjohnson4662
8 ай бұрын
Good to see Sr.
@squatch253
8 ай бұрын
Yep his project that day was replacing the vise on the workbench 👍
@pn3846
8 ай бұрын
My m has a strip of some sort or leather striping I believe it’s so it don’t vibrate so it dosent wear that flange I believe mine has a little rivet to hold it in place
@keithwarkentin
8 ай бұрын
Might want to put a little preparation h on the top of the exhaust pipe before you put the rain cap on 😀🇨🇦
@j81851
8 ай бұрын
HE HE HE HE clever 🤣🙃
@seniorelectrician6831
7 ай бұрын
well you will know if a strip belongs there or not when you put the hood on, the front should be even with the hood or the hood should be the same height front on grill and rear on tank. Do not know if you can get your grill and hood to move forward a little which might get you a little more roomier your tank, and center your hood in the exhaust hole, (looked like was tighter in the front for gap but it could be the camera too).
@tractordan933
7 ай бұрын
Seems as though the sheet metal on my tractors shrinks some every time I have to remove some thing. Never thought of moving things like the radiator to help with alignment.
@horstszibulski19
8 ай бұрын
Does the tank get a decorative band along the seam also, to pick up the decorative line of the hood? Nice progress, thanks for showing! 👍👍👍
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