she’s being body positive by taking care of her body. what’s more positive than that?
@ObesetoBeast
8 ай бұрын
I agree 😊
@pyramid-ukulele-group
8 ай бұрын
Totally agree 👍🏼. What I find frustrating as someone with health / disability is some activist using ‘ableism’ as a talking point to back up promoting unhealthy lifestyles. It seems like some of these people make everything about themselves and just seem jealous someone else is managing to succeed as improving things for themselves. Surely if you genuinely care about others you would be happy for anyone that seems to be doing well and give them support, particularly if you understand the struggles for anyone trying to lose weight etc. Most people with health / disability probs would be happy to see any improvement with any daily task, the ableist arguments are mostly completely and utterly ridiculous!
@JustcallmeDebbieB
8 ай бұрын
It's like your drinking buddy gets sober and you quit talking to them for it. 😢
@ObesetoBeast
8 ай бұрын
Good way to put it
@minkminky
8 ай бұрын
absolutely
@Aceofwolves
8 ай бұрын
Yep because it's easier to continue a bad habit if you don't have to do it alone...because you don't have to reflect and do inner work. you can't take everyone with you on a heath journey. If you want to get better...you gotta do it alone.
@sophiacalon3463
7 ай бұрын
As someone who’s an alcoholic, thats on point. Food addiction is that, an addiction. There might not be withdrawing symptoms but the mental imbalance is hard im sure.
@SP-bg8on
6 ай бұрын
Yes. (Good analogy) This is a common hateful/fearful instinct brought to us by the darker side of human nature.
@SonarTheBat
7 ай бұрын
"I can't wipe my ass and I'm okay with that." You could not waterboard that out of me.
@lobstermash
3 ай бұрын
Made me hoot. 😂
@laurahuynh8333
2 ай бұрын
How can say anyone say that without feeling embarrassed?
@monabear7287
2 ай бұрын
That most epic of all gaslights.
@ItsMe-qm3fm
2 ай бұрын
I grimaced
@OctaviaSimmons-py1if
Ай бұрын
So with that being said, is it ok to say fat people smell🤔
@RoseyBeeme
8 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the kind words of support here and being respectful of others in the process. Had a pleasure chatting with you.
@2okaycola
8 ай бұрын
Was* a pleasure otherwise we are talking about intercourse
@thequantaleaper
8 ай бұрын
I didn't interpret it that way, why do you think "Had a pleasure chatting with you" infers intercourse?
@Mellypepper
8 ай бұрын
You do you! Never really cared about my weight. I could still hike, walk, run my little farm, and do my work which was labor intensive…until I hit about 36 at 300lbs. I have so many joint issues in my knees. Hypertension. Pre-diabetic. Out of breath just tying my damn shoes. When you have to take three to four meds a day it really hits you just how unhealthy being obese really is. I lost 30lbs and already my hypertension and mobility is vastly improved. I grow pumpkins and let me tell you, lifting a ten pound pumpkin really puts into perspective just how much weight ten pounds really is on the body. Now times that by 5 or more!
@WigganNuG
8 ай бұрын
@@thequantaleaper what the fuck are you talking about? ...
@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
8 ай бұрын
Sending love and support your way! You handled everything with grace and I’m glad you stuck to your convictions.
@suzannesmith266
8 ай бұрын
They were projecting their own shame 100%. I think fat girl flow was the one being a mean girl.
@b.r.v.8609
8 ай бұрын
Absolutely, she’s insecure and unhappy with herself, and is redirecting it to others who she is jealous of
@ObesetoBeast
8 ай бұрын
I feel similarly for sure
@jli184
8 ай бұрын
I totally agree!
@lavender1893
8 ай бұрын
Found you through Rosey :) I’m disabled and honestly found Fat Girl Flow’s article hurtful and ableist in its own right. Disabled people change our bodies (physio, drugs, surgery, weight loss, you name it) to increase our mobility, decrease pain, increase autonomy, find happiness, etc, all the time. FGF’s suggestion that there’s shame in that, that those needs are rooted in internalized ableism, or that we shouldn’t talk about it is just so shitty.
@snooganslestat2030
8 ай бұрын
These people are vile. So desperate for attention.
@thequantaleaper
8 ай бұрын
Worded absolutely perfectly, thank you.
@stitch_andherhuman1888
8 ай бұрын
💯
@krahvata
8 ай бұрын
Her own post is very confusing. She proclaims that Rosey is the one shaming others for needing assistance and that there should be no shame in being disabled, while also shaming Rosey for losing weight and fixing her disability. So how is she supportive of disabled people if she thinks that taking steps to improve your situation and being proud about your progress, is somehow shaming others who cant fix their disabilities? To be honest, I dont think this is about protecting disabled people at all. I think she is mad that Rosey proclaimed that her obesity caused her disability and that doesnt fit into her (FGF) narrative that obesity is not dangerous at all. We see this outrage every time a well known fat influencer or celebrity decides to lose weight.
@lavender1893
8 ай бұрын
@@krahvata I agree totally, they’re basically talking in circles and twisting it into some kind of “ism” so they can demonize people.
@brightknight1965
8 ай бұрын
Can you imagine fat girl flow saying the same thing to someone who through months or years of physical therapy and rehab regained mobility in their shoulder allowing them to wipe themselves? You’re ableist for going to PT! What? This person is not being mean, or advocating for a lack of accommodations, or even selling something to help people lose weight. She is just sharing her life and an accomplishment
@chipsahoyforyaboi
8 ай бұрын
The funny thing is, I had people call me ableist for saying I was glad of my PT journey. Gee, forgive for seeking to gain full ROM.
@brightknight1965
8 ай бұрын
@@chipsahoyforyaboiwow I’m so sorry that happened!
@ekaterinaponizovskayadevin2812
8 ай бұрын
@@chipsahoyforyaboi Then I will glorify the ableists! I wish you all the best!
@elalogar7340
8 ай бұрын
Fat girl flow should be told to mind her own business. This was not about her. And her response to it makes her look like a 🤡 .
@jabc4748
8 ай бұрын
Dang good point. Their arguments fall short every time
@theweyrd
8 ай бұрын
“I’m so happy I can do a handstand! I worked hard for it.” “Don’t celebrate that! That’s ableist!”
@emilydana5021
8 ай бұрын
I am a disabled person and every time I get independence due to an accommodation (much like a medication) I celebrate that too and it’s not ableist to do so
@fronzotto
6 ай бұрын
I totally agree!! The ablelism is when we don’t have things available to help disabled people be more independent imo. It sucks to have to depend on people and if you’re given tools to do things on your own it’s a win! It’s so weird these people just want to make sure no one can do anything and be as miserable as they are.
@carafrey3534
8 ай бұрын
Crazyyyy to be like "I need you to suffer because I'm suffering"
@ObesetoBeast
8 ай бұрын
Lolllll
@CordeliaWagner1999
8 ай бұрын
Sounds delusional.
@starlette7820
8 ай бұрын
Misery loves company, and miserable unhappy people want everyone else to be just as miserable and unhappy as them, because it's the only way they think they can feel better about their own situation.
@pnwgirl4
8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of disabled people would agree that improving your mobility is not ableist. Also it seems a little disrespectful to the disabled community for people like fatgirlflow who are essentially CHOOSING to be disabled to equate their experience to someone with a disability that they can't control.
@wmdkitty
8 ай бұрын
Disabled person, here. I agree on both counts. Obesity is not a disability.
@DayneSStr
8 ай бұрын
@littleminx79 still they have the audacity to compare it to those inborn disabled person or disabled person by accident.
@IZaubermausI
8 ай бұрын
@littleminx79 - Strange…. In Germany a „disability“ means „not temporary“! A broken leg is called „injured“.
@stitch_andherhuman1888
8 ай бұрын
Fellow disabled person, who happens to also be fat, and I completely agree.
@siobhan3472
8 ай бұрын
Wanting to improve your mobility and QOL is not ableist. If there’s something I can do to improve my life with my own disability- I will try to do it.
@emilyanne1426
8 ай бұрын
FGF projects all of her own shame onto the choices others make with their own bodies. The actual disabled community unquestionably supports people making choices to increase their own mobility, independence and quality of life - and they don't take it as a personal attack.
@lisa489
8 ай бұрын
I love it when something SO unhinged happens in the FA sphere that every single reaction youtuber I watch makes a video about it in the span of a few days lol
@starkman78
8 ай бұрын
Until I read your comment, I didn’t even realize that this is my thing as well. I’m literally on here right now because I was hoping there’d be a video about this that I hadn’t seen yet! 😂😳😏
@fizzimajig
8 ай бұрын
Omg me too!
@societopathyobserved9785
8 ай бұрын
This is an important moment for body positivity. There is nothing that represents the horrible damage this cult is capable of than “I can’t wipe my ass and I’m proud!”
@sldj15
8 ай бұрын
Being “body positive” is taking care of your health, including putting in the work to lose weight if you are unhealthy.
@KingPandaRui
8 ай бұрын
Coming from a perspective of somebody who is disabled, I find it more ablist to eat yourself into disability than to lose weight and do something about it. When my disability causes me lack of mobility, I do something about it no matter how painful. If I could just change my eating habits, take medication, or work out to make it go away, then I would do that, no question. This is just a projection of her shame and jealousy, and instead of using that to fuel her into a better lifestyle, she's trying to bring everyone down with her. She doesn't owe us anything except respect, but she owes herself and her body a longer life with less suffering
@ljgorman
8 ай бұрын
With this line of thinking physical therapy is also ableist I guess. What happened to logic? ugh
@StayGreenBDifferent
8 ай бұрын
Speaking as someone who was in PT my entire childhood, the focus (for pediatric PT, at least, adults have a little more agency) on "fighting" my body and walking independently above all else *has* some ableist undertones I've had to unpack and made needing a wheelchair later feel like failure. But you know what I'm grateful for? Being able to toilet safely alone as an adult, which I wouldn't be able to do without PT. What gets me is, FGF can't acknowledge that something can be slightly problematic and incredibly helpful at the same time. But then, I guess nuance and logic are siblings.
@lordfreerealestate8302
6 ай бұрын
@@StayGreenBDifferent As a person currently unable to work due to disability, I agree. There's so much emphasis on being "cured" and "overcoming" and being "productive and fixed." But I still find these fat influencers problematic in the way they use the term "ableist."
@sallyrogers-jordan842
8 ай бұрын
It's weird to me that someone who can't wipe themselves, but could if they lost weight, doesn't want to lose weight. I am fat but can wipe myself and I hate the lack of mobility I have at this size. I can't imagine how little they can do.
@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
8 ай бұрын
Your bones shouldn’t creak at 30. They used to boast how healthy they were now they can no longer hide from reality.
@AnaelyN1979
8 ай бұрын
This is TMI but I was seeing a nutritionist who specializes in PCOS and Haes a while a back. I remember mentioning that I felt my fat was making it difficult to change my tampons and she completely ignored my concerned. I realized she wasn’t going to help me with my needs. You’re absolutely rights, as I get older I value the health and mobility of my body. I really enjoy your channel
@powderandpaint14
8 ай бұрын
Doesn't specialising in pcos contradict supporting haes?! Because clearly we know that for people with pcos who are overweight reducing their weight by healthy methods can help control th symptoms and consequences. Hope you found a better nutritionist (or dietician, I think they are the ones who have formal qualifications in nutrition and health.)
@DevHazy
8 ай бұрын
It’s not tmi. Every time I gain weight I feel so uncomfortable and got diagnosed with ocd about my thighs. (My skin). Anyway, I hope you find someone who listens
@angi24747
8 ай бұрын
@@DevHazy you mention your thighs. Have you heard of a condition, Lipedema?
@fatoumfatoumeh
7 ай бұрын
When I was fat, I never used tampons, and now as a thin person, I don’t use tampons…I never have and never will at this point.
@laceylately406
8 ай бұрын
I truly feel like there is a strong correlation with the more extreme side of fat acceptance and narcissism. They seem to twist everything to be about themselves.
@lianamurray9915
8 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@misskat7567
8 ай бұрын
I was proud of myself after realizing that I went from 3X to 2X. It was a small change but now I can wear different clothes and they actually fit me. Every victory counts.
@lordfreerealestate8302
6 ай бұрын
Congrats! Every victory does count 💛
@candyc0rn687
2 ай бұрын
Keep it up I was a 4x I’m in a large-xl
@kaitybby123
8 ай бұрын
I’m a fat girl who’s been following both parties for YEARS now. I personally have no intention of losing weight and do love my body the way it is. BUT, I was really shocked by FGF and this article. I honestly think this is the complete opposite of body-positivity. Rosey was never preaching or saying this is the only way to be hygienic. They’re projecting for sure.
@IZaubermausI
8 ай бұрын
Most of the people are not interested if others are fat - strangers are not as much interesting as they want to believe. But it‘s a dangerous issue to spread false informations and that‘s what (especially young) overweight people must be protected for.
@MattShubert
8 ай бұрын
I only dip into this whole "fat acceptance" world on occasion through yours and Kiana's channels because I enjoy your personalities, so I don't engage with any of these people otherwise (didn't know who "fatgirlflow" was until this vid). That said: the line "we're all aging into our 30's and as our bones creak and muscles tense, we're discovering our internalized ableism" is a FUCKING INSANE SENTENCE
@inklingofevil
8 ай бұрын
The fact is...those problems shouldn't even appear until you're in your late 50s to early 60s. Imagine describing the 30s like being elderly. Must be miserable.
@michellemartinov6267
8 ай бұрын
I was the most fit in my thirties! After 61 years of having really sucky joints (8 knee surgeries, 3 back surgeries and now retired, have 5-7 more surgeries I need to get done!). But even so, I’m doing what I can to continue with my 40+!years of fitness!
@samlutz1582
8 ай бұрын
Former morbidly obese ese person here (now a healthy weight): the joint pain and creaking is real. I'm only 26 and my knees hurt, it's hard to get off the ground, my joints pop and creak with the slightest movement. Having that much excess weight really wears your body down at an accelerated rate. I wish I'd done something about it sooner.
@MindyGail
8 ай бұрын
Ive lost 25 pounds so far, im trying to get pregnant. It's been a year so far with no success. I want to be healthy and feel better as weol as up my chances of pregnancy. What I do with my body has nothing to do with anyone else. Me wanting to get healthy and have a good quality of life for myself, and my family doesn't have anything to do with anyone else. These people need to get over themselves. Not everything is about them. Heaven forbid someone want to feel good and be able to enjoy their lives.
@GabbyBeyer
8 ай бұрын
Random stranger but
@GabbyBeyer
8 ай бұрын
Sorry it sent to early, but I just wanted to wish you luck with getting pregnant💙
@2okaycola
8 ай бұрын
You can do it! Eat sea moss!! There is a pregnancy diet out there too per your blood diet described in the book “eat right for your blood type” by dr d’adamo, look into it
@bettyjohnson2964
8 ай бұрын
Hi, I don't know your plan for losing weight, but congratulations!! I'm 71, and have lost all my excess weight of over 80 pounds and feel better than I have in over 20 years!! I want to share a video short I saw today from Dr. Robert Kiltz, who is a fertility specialist, I believe. The title was " a stick of butter a day brings a BABY all the way". I started keto several years ago, then went carnivore, and have experienced AMAZING health results! Dr. Kiltz has videos on fertility, but, obviously, at 71, I don't listen to those, but I love his others! 😂 Praying God will help you to find the way of eating that is best for YOU, and HE will bless you through a pregnancy!! Hang in there!! ❤🤗🙏🙏
@dabieyo
8 ай бұрын
They're all self care girlies until somebody manages to overcome a weight related issue by losing said weight
@keitwilliamsmusic
8 ай бұрын
As a woman who is in the 300s once being in that situation of not able to fully wipe, shit was embarrassing, and honestly scary to think about. Like, what other problems could I be causing myself? If it weren't for Mounjaro and THERAPY, the 50 pounds I've lost made me realize there's more to life than eating. There was a root issue that needed to be taken care of and not bandaged by food. And, food noise is real. It's real, it's loud, and it can make you think that food will solve all your problems, which it cannot.
@The.Hawaiian.Kingdom
8 ай бұрын
It sounds like Flow is so determined to be a victim that she’s imagining a person sharing an experience other than her own is a personal attack on her. She is for sure projecting her own insecurities and guilt and envy.
@vixlarue3820
8 ай бұрын
The way these "body positive" activists have co-opted spaces and discussions about disability rights and advocacy pisses me off so much.
@PrincessG31691
8 ай бұрын
So many problems could be avoided if people would just mind their own body and their own business. Don’t make everything about yourself. 🤦🏻♀️
@cathycupcakes
8 ай бұрын
Okay...I'm just going to say it....I'm in my early 30s and have a few medical conditions, one of which makes me urinary incontinent and have I have to wear adult diapers most of the time. Do I think Rosey is being ableist? Of course not. Do I like it when people make diaper jokes? Not really, but I sure don't take it personally and make jokes about it too sometimes. It's so funny to me how (with few exceptions) the disability/chronic illness communities are SO SO different than the FA communities. To be fair though, I think making any of these things your sole identity is problematic. Edit: I loved Rosey's response to FGF. So good!
@bethany45101
8 ай бұрын
Both my parents are on Mounjaro. My dad for his diabetes and it has helped him tremendously and gotten his A1C down to normal. My mom is on it for weight management and she’s lost over 30lbs and is in a place where she feels good enough to exercise again. I think using medication is a good thing if it moves you into being healthier. I’m proud of her for taking a stand for her health despite the backlash I’m sure she knew was coming. I’m subscribing to her channel to support her journey!
@PerksJ
8 ай бұрын
As someone who is 7 months pregnant with twins and having to adapt to having difficulty reaching to wipe, I can get behind the argument for more bidets, being able to ask for that accommodation at work, and not shaming people for those mobility issues but I agree Rosie was just sharing the benefits of her journey and not attacking anyone who has shared or currently has that difficulty. That’s not fair to call her a pick me bitch for that.
@OnilUribes
8 ай бұрын
If you're transitioning into being a man, then why go through pregnancy? Thats just stupid. And disgusting.
@attitudeproblem6462
8 ай бұрын
How does wanting to wipe your own ass even translate to being a “pickme bitch”??? 🤨🤦🏾♀️ There’s #boymath There’s #Girlmath And now there’s #fatacceptancemath
@SquirtleHK
8 ай бұрын
Woo! Congrats on the twins!🎈👶🍼👶🍼🎁🎊 I hope twins and Mommy will be healthy and happy🤗❤❤
@candicefrost4561
8 ай бұрын
Yes, there are legitimate reasons that are not within someone’s control why they can’t do this for themselves. Being pregnant or disabled is different from simply being obese. When your choices about your own eating are making things like this hard for you, I personally am willing to accommodate you, but don’t put yourself in the same category as someone who has muscular dystrophy or is pregnant. It’s like someone’s trying to gain victim status but hide that behind “wokeness” by accusing other people of ableism. That’s pretty immature.
@winterlee6942
8 ай бұрын
I know that health is a privilege - I watched my parent succumb to an illness when I was 23 and embarked on a career in (moderate to severe) disability services the following year. I am about to celebrate year 41, and due to diet an exercise, I genuinely feel the same as I did in my 20s. I saw how precious health was early, and made the choice to preserve it. I'm not a bad person or abilist because I want to preserve it as long as possible. Aging doesn't have to be painful and most have the ability to prevent early onset maladies.
@Kimmehface
8 ай бұрын
I absolutely think we should be more accepting of all bodies but also recognize that being above a certain weight/bmi can really hinder your overall health. I gained about 40 lbs in the last year due to medical issues and I can feel how it’s affected my health. I have worse pain and I’m unable to run and workout the way I used to without getting super out of breath and feeling like I’m gonna faint. I am now currently trying to lose the weight and I am a few lbs down already!
@UncleMikeDrop
8 ай бұрын
Someone should really tell zfatGirlFlow that word salad doesn't count as salad.
@kenziedicken9512
7 ай бұрын
i’m 1000% positive that me saying i’m happy i can walk with both legs wouldn’t make someone who lost a leg or can’t walk upset. if anything, we SHOULD be grateful for these things out of RESPECT for those who don’t have those abilities. the same should apply here. when people take things personally like this, it’s just weird to me. roses post had nothing to do with anyone else but HER own experience.
@BevyMulroy
8 ай бұрын
I find this BEYOND heartbreaking. When there are people who are imo so insecure that they bully others who have a different perspective than theirs. To purposely seek out others, who are NOT attacking or trying to influence them, and to imo bully them. I really do feel for anyone who's self-esteem is so low that they feel the need to tear down anyone who has a different opinion or perspective. I am hopeful that more of these fat activist start coming out with a more healthy outlook on themselves, their bodies, and their life. It is clear there are members of this community who IS worried about their health, and how the weight is affecting them. They should never feel shame about wanting to be true to themselves. I had a cousin who was transgender, and they felt ashamed by it. They went through such a hard difficult time trying to please their family that it only brought them depression, sadness, and heartbreak. While it is a different scenario the shame of not being able to be your true authentic self is similar.
@ithalaine
8 ай бұрын
As someone who’s been morbidly obese according to the bmi scale, it affected my quality of life severely even though I was in my very early 20s. I became increasingly worried about lifestyle diseases, joint pain and foot pain, did my research and lost 100 lbs. obesity isn’t just skin deep, it affects every aspect of your bodies functionalities. Fat deposits itself not just under the skin, but between your organs too. The thought of my unhealthy lifestyle literally having a strangle hold on my organs was too disturbing to me and I hit a point of “I cannot continue like this”. I’m glad this was all before the wave of “healthy at every size” we see now, I didn’t have anyone trying to convince me that I shouldn’t do what was best for me. Your body is telling you every day that it doesn’t want to be obese, your knees hurt, your hips hurt, your feet hurt just from walking short distances, you get acid reflux from overstuffing your gastrointestinal system, you sweat from normal everyday activities, you have a hard time catching your breath just getting out of bed, your body is screaming at you to give it a more nutritious diet and it just sounds just like hunger until you actually switch up your diet, you have a constant low grade headache from all the sugar and fat you’re eating, your heart is struggling to support your big size and you think this is just what living feels like but it’s not normal. I wholeheartedly believe we are all worthy at every size, I am just so disappointed to see weight loss being demonized like this, every person should do what feels best for them. You are worthy of health, you are worthy of a life fully lived, you deserve to take your health seriously, you deserve to not be shamed on your journey, you deserve the effort it takes to change your ways. I’m noticing a trend of fat acceptance voices having this huge victim mentality and almost self imposing disabilities, they get all giddy and excited to place themselves among the disabled community when they have no place there. I’ll keep this vague and quick, I lost a lot of ability recently to an accident that will follow me for years, possibly my whole life, and I cannot understate the difference of being actually disabled and being obese. One of these conditions cannot be changed, one of them can. Nobody is saying weight loss is easy! It can be incredibly hard, but it is not impossible and it is not inherently a disability to be fat.
@DiMagnolia
7 ай бұрын
As an actual disabled person, every time I gain back any ability I lost due to mobility or other symptoms, I am overjoyed. I couldn’t walk at all unassisted for months and sometimes have flares that limit me. Lately, I’ve been able to walk unassisted without fear of collapsing, and I couldn’t be happier!! I’ve been going out on my own a few times a week, something I couldn’t do most of the past two years. That isn’t me being ableist towards those that are currently unable to walk unassisted, it’s me celebrating my progress. If I see someone celebrating something they were able to do, I don’t take it as a personal attack or ableist, we are all built different.
@romanticdove
8 ай бұрын
Im 110.8kg and 5ft 6. This is alot of weight for me. Im struggling to walk, can hardly do up my bras and had to buy new togs. Im nkw trying to lose weight but without counting calories or macros. Reason why im not tracking is because its not good for my mental health. Im trying to lose the weight so i can be more mobile and get my health back. The pain in my feet and knees is not worth being fat to me. And thats not being fat phobic. Its being health concious.
@courtneycarter1996
8 ай бұрын
Waiting for a double lung transplant after blood cancer and have lost 100 pounds with 30 to go to my goal weight. Excuses just piss me off. Losing weight is hard but so is sitting every day hating yourself for eating crap, just gotta pick what life you want.
@luciezf3147
8 ай бұрын
Interesting topic John - thanks for your measured take! Good on Rosie. The person that has issues is the blogger - THEY are clearly still feeling shame about not being able to wipe their butt. What impact does the fact that Rosie feels proud of being able to do so have on their lives?? In no way was she being ‘anti-fat’, she was just recounting her experience. Cray-cray…
@brimarie4196
8 ай бұрын
Also, if you experience a really hard time with this and you know how it sucks wouldn't your empathy motivate you to want to help others avoid that? Fatgirlflow herself describes all of the shame and hurdles that she dealt with due to her loss of mobility, why would she want someone else to continue to suffer instead of getting the information that they have an option not to.
@lordsxman
8 ай бұрын
Because, as the saying goes: Misery loves company
@elalogar7340
8 ай бұрын
Crabs in the bucket mentality
@imjustjk
8 ай бұрын
@@elalogar7340bingo
@sonyakinsey4376
8 ай бұрын
FGF: All it takes is having one disabled friend to realize they have lives worth living? Really? You needed to know a disabled person personally and be their friend to learn that? They had to explain it to you? Not just understanding that all humans have basic rights and lives worth living? Geez.
@jli184
8 ай бұрын
Yes, yes, yes! 1000 times yes!! You put into words my thoughts about this ridiculous post! Sounds to me that someone got triggered about their own issues and decided to go on a tirade against Rosey . There’s nothing wrong with being happy and positive about your own body- regardless of its size. And honestly THAT is what true body positivity should be, Not this mean girl rhetoric disguised as body positivity and anti ableism
@lordsxman
8 ай бұрын
Kinda off the topic but I really appreciate how both Rosie and FatGirlFlow are so eloquent innexpressing their respective points of view. They've both gotten social media training and/or persuasive writing lessons. FatGirlFlow was way out of pocket for criticizing Rosie's post. I guess when there's nothing happening in the FA sphere people have to fake outrage. 🤷🏿
@eleniandthecards
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to really reach out and get to know Rosie. Rosie’s blog ruffled a lot of feathers, but you showed her true attitude, bravo! That’s called accredited journalism, showing both sides of the story.
@orangesnowflake3769
8 ай бұрын
I have cerebral palsy and do PT and try and keep myself healthy so I keep my mobility. Am I ableist now for not just laying down and rotting in a bed ?
@pig3292
8 ай бұрын
Omg the ableism rant is so shockingly idiotic.
@sauceissilly
8 ай бұрын
Man sounds like the article writer is projecting big time Imagine taking everything so personally, sounds exhausting
@jiyoung4472
8 ай бұрын
"I wash myself with a rag on a stick" - Bartholomew Simpson
@mandas677
6 ай бұрын
I’m in a wheelchair and I don’t get mad when people in bad accidents and things celebrate their regained ability to walk. Jesus Christ, improved mobility is great. There’s nothing wrong with limited mobility. But, if you can improve it and choose not to bc you’re afraid of being ableist, you’ve got a lot of people pleasing issues to reflect on & therapy to go to.
@ifionlyhadaboat
8 ай бұрын
As a person with an actual disability, the idea is so infuriating to me. I can't choose to change my lifestyle & not be disabled anymore. The FA folks can. I'm in the gym five or six times per week & maintaining a 90 lb weight loss for 15 years. I look and feel good & I'm going to have as many healthy years as possible. So many in the FA community were blessed with fine physical health at birth and just pissed it away for junk food. The entitlement & ingratitude is incredible.
@bettyjohnson2964
8 ай бұрын
Why can't we just love and respect others? I believe we should All love ourselves no matter what size we are. But if someone chooses to lose weight, whether for looks or health reasons, why can't we all support them? I have lost all my excess weight of over 80 pounds, but gained back some over the holidays, and have become healthier, with much less pain and more energy than I have had in over 20 years. I'm 71, and hope each person can find what way of eating works and makes them feel their best and enjoy life!! I started keto several years ago, then went carnivore, and that really works great for ME, especially since before that I was ALWAYS HUNGRY!! Never would have believed that I would no longer be starving, and not have any desire to snack!! Let's all just learn our own bodies, and experiment, until we find our own answers!! You are looking great!! ❤🤗🙏🙏
@RissaMarie401
8 ай бұрын
Excess body fat after 35 is painful it gets more painful every year
@justrione
8 ай бұрын
What a journey she has. Thank you for sharing
@ObesetoBeast
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@garfield2824
8 ай бұрын
damn whats their take on amputees using prosthetic limbs for mobility, mental wellbeing, hell even aesthetics. cant wait for that article
@mael2039
8 ай бұрын
A very dear friend of mine was in a horrible car crash and had to relearn how to walk, eat, everything, including hygienic needs. He won't ever be able to live independently again, but he worked hard in physical therapy, ergo therapy, a shitload of medications and different doctors and medical procedues to gain back as much mobility and indepencence as possible. In fact, i know many disabled people who constantly make effort to be as mobile as possible, as pain free as possible, and increase the quality of their lives, because yes, it increases your quality of life to be able to go to the bathroom without assistence. I also know disabled people who need assustence with personal hygiene and always will. But wanting to achieve to do that on your own and working your hardest is not discrimination against these people. Even being terrified of it happening to you or falling into a depression when it happens to you and finding it horrible and having all sorts of negative feelings about your own circumstances isnt discrimination against these people. It's got nothing to do with them.
@kaleighp7723
18 күн бұрын
You’re so respectful! Great video, thank you for actually being sane
@SP-bg8on
6 ай бұрын
Rosy sounds like an extremely intelligent and reflective person. I applaud her. There is a lot more to life and people than their outward appearances and skin deep attributes
@MusicLoveMegan
8 ай бұрын
I feel like it’s pretty ableist to eat yourself into a disability but hey that’s just me 😂
@susannahc
8 ай бұрын
So much respect for you John over all you shared on your last podcast ❤
@CristinSierra
8 ай бұрын
As someone who does sometimes have difficulty reaching my back side due to arthritis I don’t understand someone who is so ok with just not being able to take care of basic hygiene. Thankfully my issues only really happen during the winter when it’s cold and raining or snowing. On those days I have to make sure I take my pain pill and stretch out even though it hurts just getting out of bed. When it comes to mobility if you don’t use it you loose it.
@alex-gf8qu
8 ай бұрын
That’s the downside to social media, just because people have the ability to share their opinion, some people think they HAVE to. So if a situation makes them feel bad about themself (shame, embarrassed, etc) they seem to attack the original poster. It seems this person was embarrassed, and instead of harnessing that to improve their own life, they would rather bring hate to the person making positive changes.
@hannahmarie1192
8 ай бұрын
people really want to make things about themselves and find reasons to he upset. the chronically online crowd strikes again. cant imagine someone else celebrating themselves and going "wow this is hateful toward me?!" as the kids say, some people need to touch grass. 😭
@Determined-Dani
8 ай бұрын
Yesterday I had a shower thought about how now I'm able to actually clean my back on my own without any help of someone else or a stick loofah, and it feels great to be able to take care of my own personal hygiene now that I've lost 80 lb ( so far )
@kellx4321
8 ай бұрын
That's amazing good for you! When I lost 30 lbs I realized wow I can actually shave without being out of breathe 😅
@hiimeyu
6 ай бұрын
The phrase from Fgf‘s blog: ‚My body has betrayed me so I couldn’t wipe myself anymore‘ is so crazy to me. You betrayed your own body and now you’re blaming it for your inability to wipe yourself? Ughhh
@BunniBeshara
8 ай бұрын
I LOVE my bidet. But I can tell you, it is not sufficient on its own unless you want to sit there for 15 minutes OR you have sandblaster levels of water pressure lol also… thinking of not drying off after 😖
@amandahugginkiss9065
8 ай бұрын
Watching John struggle through talking about wiping your butt without laughing like all of our inner 12 yr old was amazing 😂🤣
@aren7138
8 ай бұрын
When the hateful cult comes swinging at the people who want to leave their hateful group.
@brandonhelcher3691
5 ай бұрын
If there's anything I thought could be a wake-up call to anyone to lose weight, it would've been not being able to wipe anymore.
@PSALM139CHRISTISKING
8 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work John🎉
@ObesetoBeast
8 ай бұрын
Thank you!😊
@smeeker59
8 ай бұрын
I thought that being body positive meant that I love my body regardless of its size. It was shocking to me to find out how many body positive activists seem to believe that I can only love my body if it is fat, wanting to lose weight has to mean that I hate my body. I love my body and want to be healthier and more active, which for me means to lose weight. How is that not being body positive?!
@jamie6506
8 ай бұрын
I choose to use a bidet because it feels cleaner, but I still use a square or two to wipe the water off. I can't imagine letting the water stay between the cheeks, especially if you had large ones that trap the water in. And just the idea of not being able to reach a part of my own body sounds horrible. That means something is wrong! Even if you claim disability, being disabled is not a *good* thing. It's not shameful, but it certainly isn't ideal for the sufferer! If you have the power to prevent or improve a disability, you absolutely should take it because you should desire to help yourself.
@serahmaxy8849
8 ай бұрын
Bidets are the best 👌 You certainly don't have to be disabled or muslim to use one. I highly recommend everyone at least try it once.
@hedaheda1609
8 ай бұрын
Reading comments under vlogs dedicated to this topic, I begin to get the impression that there are quite a few people who are proud that they do not use a bidet, because they believe that it is not a hygiene device, but an accomodation for disabled and fat people, and Muslim people. 😆
@serahmaxy8849
8 ай бұрын
@hedaheda1609 🤣 I know it's crazy. They are way more hygienic than a bit of toilet paper
@nararabbit1
Ай бұрын
OMG. I immediately got up and did a workout when you got to the FatGirlFlow part, the thought of not being able to wipe my ass! Nooooo way.
@kemprze
8 ай бұрын
At some point it becomes just absurd, and it's not because of weight. It's because of the fact that one has the capability to make somebody else's life accomplishments/experiences to be a slight towards themselves.
@galaxyrose15
3 ай бұрын
I think you hit the nail on the head. The only reason they're upset is because deep down they're jealous of the people succeeding when they are stagnant or regressing.
@JJuliaSmile
8 ай бұрын
Imagine being proud of not being able to wipe your own ass cause you can't stop eating all day🥲 one of my best friends became disabled after an accident and she would move heaven and earth if there was anything she herself could do to improve and get more of her independence back...these people comparing themselves to someone like her is just🥴
@katesicle
8 ай бұрын
It’s possible to have compassion for people with mobility issues while also wanting to prevent those things happening to ourselves. We have a right to want to preserve our health as much as we can.
@ky4864
8 ай бұрын
Rosey is a real gem. I’ve been following her for a long time. Even when she was bigger she never really pushed the whole “weight doesn’t equal health” thing that other influencers did. She’s always been down to earth and honest. I’m excited to see keep following her journey.
@paperfrost
8 ай бұрын
We all get to chose the journeys we take. I agree with Rosie that it’s important to share our own stories, and I really love her respectful and emotionally intelligent response to the negativity! By sharing vulnerably and honestly, we will connect with others who are on similar journeys. 🙂 I would not chose to take a medication in order to lose weight. I would not chose to call someone who did so an “anti-fat mean girl.” But at the same time, as someone who was obese and in the body positivity movement for a time, I understand why both individuals made those decisions and I can respect their perspectives. I do feel more compassion is needed, though. Ofter people suffering obesity have other chronic health conditions affecting their ability to lose weight. That was the case for me, and the body positivity movement did help me face my internalized ableism. Even now that I am a healthy weight and not as ill as I was, that ableism isn’t completely gone.
@sophiacalon3463
7 ай бұрын
This is like if an alchoholic said: “I got transplanted, didn’t stop drinking, and im ok with it” come on now
@Leanne.Gray.
6 ай бұрын
When I was diagnosed with a disabling medical condition about 10 years ago I worked with my doctor for *years* to find a treatment that optimized my quality of life. I didn’t sit on my ass and try to be positive about it, I did everything I could to make it better. I still have it, I have to be on meds for the rest of my life, but my life is infinitely improved by taking care of myself w/ medical assistance. More recently I had a gastric sleeve surgery, because I haven’t had any success with losing weight on my own for years and years and it was just getting worse. Getting medical help to address my health issues is the opposite of ablism imo. And I’m a lot more positive about my body every day as my mobility and quality of life continue to improve.
@angi24747
8 ай бұрын
Judging a book by its cover, and being a person already currently overcoming body limitations and hygiene care triumphs, I was initially afraid of what you'd say here. Thank you for handling this topic with care. God bless you. I'd love to mention here that not all obese women are lazy overeaters. I suffered for years without knowing there is a condition: Lipedema, which affects 11% of women. If you've struggled with painful fat that won't go away, this is worth looking into. My name is The Lippy Butterfly 🦋
@randysmith7189
16 күн бұрын
Fatgirl Flow I'm 167 years old and CAN I wipe my behind very well and getting older has nothing to do with it....being fat does!. Rosie celebrate your success!
@Jay__Cee
8 ай бұрын
I actually just unfollowed FatGirlFlow when I saw her cross stitch saying “we stay fat here”
@yeshellothisissoph
Ай бұрын
Hahah literally been told before that me not wanting to gain weight / wanting to lose weight is fatphobia 😂
@joelrionstaves4684
8 ай бұрын
So much for her body her choice. Shows that they don't really believe that saying.
@bentbutnotbroken9193
5 ай бұрын
The way the fat acceptance community try’s to gaslight people using ableism is so gross. As a physically disabled individual if my doctor told me tomorrow that ozempic would cure my lupus and fibromyalgia and make me able to move and bath or put my shoes on without help I’d do it immediately! It’s not ableism to prefer not needing help to function. It’s not ableist to be happy to have improved function.
@my200lbjourney8
4 ай бұрын
I completely agree. Most obese people (not all) are in their position from their own choices in life. I made all the choices to get to the size I am at today. I don't want to use my hypothyroidism or PCOS as an excuse. I know it just makes it more difficult to lose weight but not impossible. Top people in the Body positivity community have become so far into it that they have become hypocritical. Everyone has their own feelings and everyone has their own journeys. Instead of taking someone down we should be respecting each other's choices for change and cheering people on when they are genuinely happy.
@AndyPresto75
8 ай бұрын
Obesity is not a disability (IMO) and criticising someone for improving their life, health and happiness by losing fat is absurd and nasty (and in this case possibly stems from jealousy?). Taking issue with weight loss makes about as much sense as having a problem with blind people using guide dogs, the deaf having hearing aids or the immobile using a wheelchair to improve quality of life. The girl who lost the weight is rightfully proud and serves as a positive example for others. Great video!
@carrot_corn
7 ай бұрын
as a disabled person who has existed in both a fat body and a thin body, loosing weight because you cant wipe isnt ableist, making fun of disabled folks who cant wipe IS ableist which she didnt do...being fat is not inherently a disability either
@devilsandsuch
6 ай бұрын
i’ve been physically disabled for nearly 6 years now and for that ENTIRE time i have tried absolutely everything (medication, physical therapy, 2 surgeries, holistic medicine, yoga, etc) to gain back tiny bits of mobility in order to do things i love again. i cannot stress enough how harmful and frankly ableist fatgirlflow’s response is. she’s co-opting the disabled community in order to push her own narrative that loosing weight is morally wrong.
@OhhayMariah
Ай бұрын
How are we in a world where goals is not being able to do baseline care for yourself? The"fat acceptance" movement is so harmful. Being positive, loving someone, being decent to them, all things that people should give other people no matter how they look. BUT it's not healthy or positive to push the idea that being extremely overweight is at all healthy or something to be desired. We should be pushing HEALTHY habits.
@jmb5924
7 ай бұрын
When did the idea of being positive about your body turn into not trying to feel better by losing weight, or exercising or whatever? Roses is showing the true meaning of being positive about one’s body. Good for her!
@societopathyobserved9785
8 ай бұрын
Violating the age old adage of “use it or lose it” and eating yourself into immobility is not the same as having a disability.
@Markovtc
6 ай бұрын
I was ill couple of years ago,and i couldn't walk.I would jump from the hospital bed and crawl to the bathroom,refusing to wear dipppers. No way in hell i would be ok with it. Pathetic. Why do they care if someone looses weight? It's so weird. And yes if you are 600 pounds i will think less of you. You did that to yourself.
@Marlena499
7 ай бұрын
When I broke my femur I guess I shouldve stayed on crutches forever. Being happy about being able to walk now is ableist 😔
@artcia3186
2 ай бұрын
You should be lying in bed. Strenuous use of crutches to be independent and more self-reliant is also ableism according to this definition.
@Sam99823
8 ай бұрын
As an exercise science student in college it scares me a little about how far the body positivity movement goes. Not to say you shouldn’t be happy with your body but the amount of risks and danger than come from being morbidly obese is frightening! Cardiovascular complications increase drastically, risk of breaking bones increase, breathing problems can occur and much more!
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