There is a lot of debate as to whether the FBI agents revolvers were really loaded with .357 magnum ammo. First, it doesn't really matter. Secondly, when I attended the FBI seminar and viewed their training videos they consistently referred to .357 magnum. "he was shot with a .357 magnum" and so on. In a recorded interview, one of the agents referred to his revolver as, "My magnum." As I have mentioned many times, sources don't always agree with each other.
@jeffreybryan5548
3 жыл бұрын
As you said, unless you hit what you’re shooting at a .357 is virtually useless.
@houssamassila6274
3 жыл бұрын
Dear Paul, In this video you explain that the 1986 Miami Dade shootout should be at the top of the list of many other shootouts to read and learn about [2:03]. Would it be to much asking if you could analyse in detail another important shootout event with your boring long talks, dramatic Shatner pauses and your inevitable return to the dawn of time? You may not like it yourself, but by God I know I'm one of the absolute majority who likes it. Please, please, please. P.S: please stay safe in these tricky times.
@ricardomagnificent
3 жыл бұрын
Very good. I lived in Miami when this went down and there was no end the armchair commandos on construction sites giving their take on this event. I had gone shooting along some of those same canals. In the end your analysis is spot on. In the words of Clint Smith "Only hits count. You can't miss fast enough to catch up."
@fbomb2077
3 жыл бұрын
@@houssamassila6274 or maybe what to do if a 'Red Dawn' movie type war starts. Or maybe cival war. Or just crazy times and at worst, with people having to actively arm themselves, what to do?
@houssamassila6274
3 жыл бұрын
@@fbomb2077 if you watch Paul closely, all his videos are all about how to handle your weapons responsibly and efficiently for all kinds of needs, from self defense to hunting. Those are operational videos. What I am asking for, is rather more analytical, more academic and more directed towards the theoretical understanding of shootout situations. Because in those, one can enlarge their awareness out of a panicked tunnel vision that happens to the best of us in crucial moments. As for civil war or Red Dawn (whatever that means) if you use common sense, know your weapons and how to use them responsibly and efficiently and as long as you're not dunski you should be fine. And there will not be any civil war in America don't worry.
@davewolf8869
6 жыл бұрын
"It is very easy to judge in leisure what people have had to do in haste...." Very wise words
@Ryarios
5 жыл бұрын
Dave Boothney I’ve always found it hard to second guess the man on the spot. Decisions that have to be made in split seconds are easy to criticize when you have days to analyze them, but that may not really be valid criticism at all. People complain that the police are too quick to shoot. With as many officers are there are getting shot these days, maybe they aren’t shooting quickly enough. It’s easy enough to talk about tasers, beanbags, shooting to wound, etc. when you weren’t there being shot at.
@andrewdods2236
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed !
@JoelLinus
5 жыл бұрын
I can show you a video which of course is an extreme exception of how officers really act when it comes about to a shooting, but that officer killed a scared unarmed guy laying on the ground, that officer should have get atleast dropped out of his police job and of course many others who can not control their emotions because of fear. Being a police officer in america is too easy.
@BobC59
5 жыл бұрын
"Extreme exceptions" will occur - its part of life unpredictability - so what is the point of raining it other than fascination or entertainment?
@pepe6666
5 жыл бұрын
yeah its a great quote. ive been in a few bad situations and gotten flack for it later. its like hey man take away all your time to think and see how well ya do
@swampyankee72
3 жыл бұрын
"The 357 magnum is powerful, but I'm steadfastly of the opinion that it is virtually useless unless you hit what your shooting at."
@bradybell6129
3 жыл бұрын
According to Wiki, all of the 357 magnums were shooting .38 special +P, which is about as powerful as the 9mm. When they later went to the 10mm, most people could not handle the extra recoil.
@carboy0353
3 жыл бұрын
Like my Grandma always says, “A shot that doesn’t hit, can’t hurt.”
@marcuscook5145
3 жыл бұрын
I always found it funny that they complained about .45 Auto for its recoil and then decided to try something significantly worse in that regard lol.
@neruneri
3 жыл бұрын
@Legend Of Cretacia It's important to note though that suppressive fire isn't supposed to miss, but is meant to be effective even if you do. Lack of accuracy is never a feature, just a bug that you can apply tactics to mitigate the consequences of.
@JD0x0
3 жыл бұрын
Pistol bullets tend to just make holes. An expanding bullet makes a bigger hole at the cost of penetration. You typically need impact speeds over 2200fps to get significant hydrostatic shock effects, like you get with high powered rifles. If you're not poking holes in the right place they wont die. I know of someone who took 6 shots of .44Mag to the abdomen and lived to tell the tale.
@richardcranium9058
2 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt that this man has researched this event to the the point that he actually *knows* that a nerd strap cost fifty nine cents in 1986.
@Salieri47
2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if the price was correct for the time.
@oscarhernandez6221
8 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 2 years later u made somebody laugh with ur comment hahah. And i bet u he did!
@hopejones8769
8 ай бұрын
Made couple people a couple years later
@1978garfield
3 ай бұрын
Has anyone else added "nerd straps" to their eye wear since watching this or am I the only one?
@panzerabwerkanone
3 ай бұрын
@@1978garfield Nerd!
@zed6234
3 жыл бұрын
Something about shooting a shotgun one handed like that really let's you grasp the desperation and severity of the shooting. Absolutely chilling.
@themightycrixus1131
2 жыл бұрын
That officer is tough as nails
@emperorpalpatine1228
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can barely manage a shotgun with both hands. No way I could do that with one hand.
@wizardofahhhs759
Жыл бұрын
Not if it's a .410
@jackstraughan2652
Жыл бұрын
@@wizardofahhhs759 but it wasn’t. It was a 12. With heavy recoiling cartridges!
@mikesharkey2010
Жыл бұрын
I've done the 1-hand 12 Guage "trick" - mostly because I had heard of the officer doing it. First time (I was about 20 or 21), @#$% nearly broke fingers. Tried again some years later, when I saw my Hwy Patrol Officer Uncle do it. More swearing, but I managed to empty the gun. Tried again when got prison job. Can pull it off, but I'll say this. The shotgun and that officer were both loaded with balls of steel. I'll buy him a drink at any bar and be proud to be allowed to drink beside him.
@Wavicle
5 жыл бұрын
Wow... That "this is what he saw" demonstration was the best 3 second example of "shut up and stop judging from your armchair" I have ever seen.
@kevingooley9628
5 жыл бұрын
No kidding. Damn good rebuttal.
@prepperjonpnw6482
5 жыл бұрын
I have been in that position and let me tell you one thing I learned among several. The size of the opening that the bullets are coming out of is actually 6” in diameter. I should say appears to be that big. It’s definitely a shit your pants call on Jesus moment. Most people would freeze and die. To even have the wherewithal to run away is incredible. My instructor used to say something like - Don’t talk shit if you’ve never been on the toilet -
@roberteugene7295
5 жыл бұрын
@@prepperjonpnw6482 Indeed. I've told people about that agent in my history classes (retired history professor), and what I'd have done in the same situation. It's the same thing "most people" would have done: wet my pants and run away or try to hide.
@OspreyKnight
4 жыл бұрын
yup. Bodycam footage is pretty nuts. (Not this but other shootings)
@timhofstetter5654
4 жыл бұрын
That one actually made me catch my breath and pucker up tight. I darned near got my chair all the way inside by the time he had finished shooting.
@BushcraftingBogan
5 жыл бұрын
“It’s very easy to critique in leisure what others had to do in haste.” Gold right there.
@apugalypse_now
5 жыл бұрын
The formal name for this phenomenon is "the historian's fallacy."
@badcornflakes6374
5 жыл бұрын
That's the second time I've read that in this comment section. Edit: 5th
@poppinlochnesshopster3249
5 жыл бұрын
@@badcornflakes6374 How did it go from the second to the 5th just because you read it more times? it stays the second, lmao.
@Profile.4
5 жыл бұрын
Like Eric and Dylan
@roberteugene7295
5 жыл бұрын
@@apugalypse_now Indeed. I'm a historian myself (retired history professor), and although it doesn't happen as often as is commonly believed, too many historians critique the actions of people who had to make very quick decisions (said decision based on limited information) while studying an incident in history. The saying, however, comes from a misinterpretation of what some historians do: conjecture about what might have happened had the individual in question made a *different* decision? My favorite part of this incident Paul actually covered. The "agent who ran away." What would *I* have done? I'll tell you: I'd have wet my pants and ran away. I know it's kind of humorous, but it's the basic truth. I've been shot at only once in my 70 years (never served in the military), and it scared the daylights out of me. At that range, I'd have felt like I'd cheated death and was lucky to be alive. The incident that I was shot at was a hunting accident, where a fellow hunter mistook me for deer in the brush.
@keithmiller6277
3 жыл бұрын
I was a rookie at the time off the Miami Dade shooting. The main lesson I learned from it is that shit happens, an that all planning goes out the window when the first shot is fired. Wear you vest. Practice as much as you can prior to any violent encounter. Always kiss your wife goodbye when you leave for work. Get yourself right with God. Enjoy life, and do the best you can.
@niallreid7664
3 жыл бұрын
Well said, hope you're doing well.
@crosisofborg5524
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm since you called it Miami dade I’m going to call you out. That name didn’t exist.
@krusk3544
3 жыл бұрын
@@crosisofborg5524 Miami-Dade County is a county within the city of Miami Florida
@boogaloothejew
3 жыл бұрын
@@crosisofborg5524 referring to a past event in the same manner that other people, Paul Harrel for instance, refer to it in the present means that he’s larping? Wew Logic +100
@somerandomdudefes31
3 жыл бұрын
@@crosisofborg5524 Checking back 2 weeks later to see if you're still an idiot
@robertzeurunkl8401
2 жыл бұрын
That "partial reload" also serves another function. If someone is counting, and counts off six rounds, and thinks you are "out".... If you suddenly come back almost immediately with two more shots, they now had to pause and wonder, _"Did you do a complete reload that fast? Are there four more after those? Do you have a second gun? Is there another shooter with you?..."_ It gives them pause on their decision to charge you while you reload. After all, you might have 4 more after those 2, or there might be someone else there with you. Given the option of having to take the time to do a complete reload, this seems like a wise tactic. It introduces confusion and doubt in your attacker.
@islas357
Жыл бұрын
Only in movies are people counting the round’s you’re shooting at them.
@user-ez7ed7kd8e
11 ай бұрын
@@islas357 Um, no? If you know someone’s shooting at you with a revolver and they shoot off all 6 shots, you’re gonna charge them. That’s how that cop got killed (the one who started the myth of the pocketing of the brass).
@kilroy5166
10 ай бұрын
@@islas357 By Paul's own word he has counted rounds in every lethal encounter he has ever been in
@user-pu4om7mj8f
8 ай бұрын
yea no one counts go take a class with thunder ranch or james yeager and learn @@islas357
@Ferd414
3 ай бұрын
@@islas357 Perhaps, perhaps not - Some of us are "odd" - I have a compulsion to count gunshots - I'll hear the neighbors down the road shooting, and count their rounds. I don't remember the last time I was shooting and didn't know how many rounds I, or someone I was hunting with, fired. Like I said, for me, it's a compulsion - I can't *NOT* count the shots I hear, whether they're mine, or somebody half a mile away.
@KeepCalmSoldierOn
3 жыл бұрын
"I know their names, I just choose not to same them." mans is officially better than every single major media source
@shetto
3 жыл бұрын
*say
@Steppa_61
3 жыл бұрын
@@shetto dick
@shetto
3 жыл бұрын
@@SludgeManCometh who woulda known 3 letters can make someone so butt tickled 🤣
@haydenbrayton
3 жыл бұрын
This pile of shit my dog just took is better then every single major media source
@codeinecowboy8607
3 жыл бұрын
@@Steppa_61 I’m no snitch but, it was this man right here, officer. @FBI
@josephlane1614
5 жыл бұрын
31:16 my father is an electrical engineer. One day he was checking on something when it exploded in an arc flash that cut through my fathers eye protection and cut his eyes. He survived and his eyes made full recovery. He had less than a second to react beforehand. He only survived because of his eye protection. A couple months later the company he works for gave a tutorial on how to deal with that scenario, and they pretty much called him an idiot who didn't know what he was doing. My father asked for a demonstration on the correct response and showed the man video of his incident. The man quickly realized there was absolutely nothing my dad did wrong and he had no time for any of the things they are supposed to do. It is easy to judge someones actions when you aren't that person.
@artyomarty391
5 жыл бұрын
I was once hiking with 3 people. We had beforehand agreed a million times that if we see a bear we will all stand together and shout. Eventually, we actually did see a bear literally 5 feet from us running across our path. It was pretty small and seemed scared of us and this whole interaction lasted for like a second cuz the bear ran across at light speed. In any case, what happened was, ALL 3 of these mfckers started running and I am just like standing there alone Their later excuse was that "well, you were the only one with a knife, we had no weapons"
@GUNNER67akaKelt
5 жыл бұрын
@@artyomarty391 first thing I thought of kzitem.info/news/bejne/rYiFromfmqWCh4Y
@johnsamu
5 жыл бұрын
@betatalk357 The bear might go for the fastest person in the bunch because he's probably the youngest with the most tender meat 😜
@Polarcupcheck
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like typical asshole boss with a cover your ass strategy. Point blame at the employee and your operation is never held accountable. Don't ever work for people or institutions who keep rules and regulations vague.
@Clean97gti
3 жыл бұрын
@Bob troof. And when you look at the intent of the protection categories you see that the cat 1 suit isn't intended to stop the arc flash entirely. They are expected to cut your risk of burns by 50%. Meaning, they still expect you will receive at least a 2nd degree burn. It's about mitigating some danger, not stopping it entirely. That's just one of the risks you accept when you work with dangerous things.
@mikeneil798
3 жыл бұрын
Im a retired Sergeant from the NYPD Detective Bureau in Brooklyn North. This was an EXCELLENT analysis on your part brother!!. Having been to not just countless homicide crime scenes but Police shootings, this was the scariest shit I've ever seen. Unlike what people see in the movies, perpetrators don't stop shooting or committing their violent act until their heart actually stops. Unlike many Cowboys here who CLAIM what they would do in similar circumstances, I can't honestly say what I'd do after hitting these animals with rounds from my old 38 Ruger I originally (I switched to the 9mm when it was authorized)came on the job with, they kept coming after me. LOL this is what adult diapers are made for
@tryingtotryistrying
11 ай бұрын
one of my parents, who was a teacher, had a crazy story about one of his students father who was a bounty hunter. apparently on the way to a party the bounty hunter stopped by a house to serve someone or whatever. the guy who answered the door shot him in the head with a revolver. the bounty hunter fell down, instantly sprang up on his feet and by the time the cops arrived after the gun shot was called in they found the bounty hunter on top of the guy half beating him to death. fortunately the cops recognized him/his car from working with him so they pulled him off, then were like holy shit your head! apparently the shooter was scared shitless and basically asked to be arrested by that point. it's an old story from long ago I'm filling in the gaps with so I'm unsure of whether the bullet bounced off his skull or went in and out without killing him, but he was apparently a bald dude and he had a big ass scar right on his forehead. I'll always remember that story, combined with others because you just can't really predict what'll happen with a bullet considering all the variables in real life. But mostly I remember the story cuz remember how I mentioned the shooter being scared? and the party? it was a Halloween costume party, and bounty hunter had dressed up as Dracula. basically the tweaker who opened the door got served, shot dracula in the head WHO THEN IMMEDIATELY STOOD UP AGAIN TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM. I'm guessing I might be able to do some digging, to see if this actually occured if was like documented in a newspaper. it would have been the 80s/90s in the PNW. such a good story though I'm fine with telling it as something I heard was true.
@FranciumBoron
8 ай бұрын
@@tryingtotryistryingBiggest sign from God to stop being a criminal. XD
@bunk95
6 ай бұрын
Police are fictional. Do you say/comment that youre a fictional thing often?
@scottypersia5715
2 жыл бұрын
The agents who fired and didn't hit anything also allowed other agents time to get in positions of safety, so it could be dismissed as "bad marksmanship" but it could be classified as "suppressing fire" also creating confusion for the criminals who whilst certainly not out gunned may have thought they had more to deal with than they did.
@Jacob-ge1py
2 жыл бұрын
I think that, with the amount of ammo fired, it's safe to assume that most of that ammo was intended to hit the suspects.
@maxjones503
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jacob-ge1py With a six-round revolver in particular (and no speed-loaders), suppressing fire isn't really something you can afford. I imagine the purpose of suppressing fire may have still been fulfilled through this shooting and in that sense it wasn't for nothing, however it was still a shortfall compared to, of course, rounds that actually hit their targets form the offset.
@antontonable
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Even only six rounds thrown at the suspects were an attempt to thwart the aggressive mini14 fire.
@whatsmolly5741
2 жыл бұрын
Ya idk if it would apply to revolvers. In modern war ya all the idiots complaining about soldiers not aim aiming or shooting a side of a building don't understand that you don't see your target like 90% of the time and the majority of shots fired do get fired in a general direction and not at a specific target.
@iivin4233
2 жыл бұрын
While I agree that this may have been how the agents were thinking about it, in this particular case mini 14 guy was so aggressive that suppressing wasn't helpful. That doesn't mean the agents were wrong to try it. It's rare for someone to be as batshit as mini 14 guy.
@ShamanG0M00
5 жыл бұрын
This is probably the most pissed sounding I've heard Mr. Harrel, ".357 Magnum is powerful, but I am steadfastly of the opinion that it is virtually useless unless you HIT what you're shooting at!"
@JonHeckendorf
5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the very same thing. I was also thinking that I would prefer shooting someone with a .22 than miss that someone with a .357 Magnum.
@invictusprima4437
4 жыл бұрын
The guys in the shootout were using .38 special +p in there .357s from what I’ve read
@erickane8163
4 жыл бұрын
22:15 everyone
@ferdonandebull
4 жыл бұрын
We had piss poor prepared agents. You needed a few actual police officers.
@ferdonandebull
4 жыл бұрын
Talk to guys who carried the .357 . There were lots of nail drivers in the ranks. It wasn’t the firearms it was the people holding them..
@justingrant4860
4 жыл бұрын
" yes I know their names I just choose not to say them " And if mainstream media would adopt that logic there would be fewer nut bags looking for vain glory
@curtcmiller
4 жыл бұрын
Justin Grant that is what the media live for.
@justingrant4860
4 жыл бұрын
@@curtcmiller ye it is a shame
@gordongoodman8342
4 жыл бұрын
Many of those "nut bags" are figments of the media's imagination.
@marblecountertops3098
4 жыл бұрын
William Mattix, Michael Platt
@edwardmyers8782
4 жыл бұрын
You would still have assholes running around screaming witness me.
@postalbyke
2 жыл бұрын
Also on the topic of marksmanship: Adrenaline and fear make it hard to see, hard to hear, and hard to aim. I watched an interview with a Green Beret, I think, who said he emptied his pistol in his first real firefight and never actually hit anything. And he had the high-speed training, not just target shooting. Like you said, it's easy to say anything, and much, much harder to be there yourself.
@EruAnor
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's weird how tunnel vision works. It's happened to me a couple times. Usually happens so fast you kind of don't really know what's happening until after the fact.
@tryingtotryistrying
11 ай бұрын
I miss shots in video games because of panic
@bookkeeper1995
4 ай бұрын
This was my first video of yours, youtube ain't gonna be the same without you.
@floivanus
4 ай бұрын
Paul definitely has always been underrated as a creator
@budwhite9591
3 ай бұрын
Same here. His Hi Point video is one of my favorites, and why I have 2. He dresses up as a pimp and Larry the cable guy in one range day
@Bongface.
3 ай бұрын
Same! I just came here from the "Shooting from under the covers" video and its a close 2nd to this one. This video is serious and interesting as hell.
@antitankautism8052
4 жыл бұрын
Something I learned while training room clearing in the Marines: Anyone can do it until someone sticks a muzzle in your face. I went through the motions countless times without fault, but the very first time I had someone point a rifle barrel at me when I breached the door, I choked. I'm lucky I learned it the easy way in a safe environment. Getting a brief glimpse of what your last moment might look like is a game changer. When you fired at the camera it was a sobering reminder of the lesson I had, until now, forgotten.
@gunslinger1911a1
4 жыл бұрын
I entirely agree, training is not a replacement for experience, but it is a way to bridge the gap and ease the process. The first hard lesson you learn in an urban engagement is, you won't beat the guy on the other side of the door to the punch. He'll probably get to shoot first. Rah Marine!
@mwnciboo
4 жыл бұрын
I bet you never hesitated post that incident. That's what shows the guys who have been through it, once you've risked you life once and come through you become alot more circumspect about it, and a hell of a lot more decisive and aggressive at the critical moments when push comes to shove. I took alot more risks when I was a junior than when i became a 10 year Veteran. I think it is that you realise Luck is a massive and uncontrollable factor, so you try to minimise the influence of luck, reduce risk by being ultra aggressive but ONLY when absolutely necessary.
@spacecowboy1438
4 жыл бұрын
Fight, flight, or freeze. It's only natural.
@rocknrollmonkey8668
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly why, when I was told someone was in a vacant house I had, I did not go charging up the back stairs and through the door. I was told they were maybe dope dealers. Turns out they were just teenagers whose parents kicked them out, so they broke into my house. I still was not going to, based on the information or lack thereof that I had, potentially walk into a shotgun in my face in the dark.
@blahblah8037
4 жыл бұрын
FlyingVaultDweller you will when it’s a civilian and at 3am 🤷🏻♂️
@dionysus6892
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Harell: Speaks about his training and experiences in a very serious, expected ex-military tone. Also Paul Harell: Literally pats himself on the back as a joke. You sir are fantastic
@Csmallo
3 жыл бұрын
Paul Harell is a serious man who is confident enough to not take himself too seriously.
@dionysus6892
3 жыл бұрын
Chris Mallory He is just a great guy
@jrmbayne
3 жыл бұрын
That was no joke
@justarandomguy3969
2 жыл бұрын
i though he did it to seems less like a bragging turd, which was very effective and made me like him more (this is his first video i watch)
@citizenfoffie7605
2 жыл бұрын
And also killed a man
@raymondpeterson5748
Жыл бұрын
I can't count the number of times I've watched, read, and looked at your analysis. My only problem is that I can only give it one thumbs up. Thanks.
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
2 жыл бұрын
The only time I feel like revolvers have failed in service of the police was the North Hollywood shootout, and that’s mainly because the police were shooting at suspects with full body armor rated to take impacts from service revolvers armed with automatic rifles, but that’s a different event, I think revolvers work just as well as a semi auto pistol for personal protection and what you said about marksmanship and actually hitting the target is 100% correct
@wmg33
Жыл бұрын
They weren’t carrying revolvers in the NH encounter
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
Жыл бұрын
@@wmg33 I should’ve clarified that not all had service revolvers, 9mm auto loaders were used by LAPD cops, I was thinking of specific responding officers like detective who were caught in the cross fire that had revolvers
@B25gunship
Жыл бұрын
The majority of the uniforms at North Hollywood were carrying Beretta 92's. Plainclothes most likely had wheelguns. Supposedly so many rounds were fired with no effect due to Phillips and Monaseronue wearing body armor that the LEO'S ran out of ammo and raided a nearby gunshop for ammo and AR15's. They were grossly undergunned. The 3 shootouts in history that get revisited the most: Newhall, Miami/Dade, and North Hollywood, all have one thing in common. The bad guys had way superior firepower. Alot went wrong at Miami that's for sure.
@BrainFuck10
Жыл бұрын
Also it took the cops like an hour to figure out the weak spot in their body armor was the legs, they had to aim for the Achilles heel how fitting.
@johnhenry4844
Жыл бұрын
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 Accuracy is great but ammo capacity is great as well, if you have a glock and other guy has a revolver just wait until he fired 6 and rush him while putting down suppressive fire That’s why the FBI agents died here, Mini 14 dude waited then rushed Revolvers
@JonasPolsky
4 жыл бұрын
There's something really uplifting about listening to an intelligent person share their expertise.
@yappingaboutcars
4 жыл бұрын
Totally! it’s almost soothing haha you’re actually learning something with someone who you can see as a walking google haha
@nazimL1011
3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say that, it’s really a welcome change from your typical KZitem wannabe firearms expert. His looks and talking style reminds those nice well made documentaries from the 70s and early 80’s...when everything was made better.
@christianmarler2253
3 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell should be a household name. He provides indispensable, first-class expertise on gun history, theory and usage. Paul is as informative and engaging as any on-camera documentary host I've seen on any subject.
@josephzacharias7992
3 жыл бұрын
And not being an alpha male, cocky douche about it.
@jairocolombo4410
3 жыл бұрын
@@nazimL1011dude, thats very acurate! I was thinking there were something familiar in his style, and you find the point
@mikehanks1399
4 жыл бұрын
"A failure of marksmanship..." "A .357 is useless...unless you hit what you're shooting at!" THIS is why I subscribed. That and your dry wit. I can't get enough.
@tjp5295
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Hanks Paul makes this quarantine bearable
@pepealasquid6005
4 жыл бұрын
tjp5295 I’ve been binging his channel and I love it.
@onlyonecannoli3952
4 жыл бұрын
Glad Harrell was able to clear up your confusion over whether it is important or not to hit what you are shooting at.
@richfarfugnuven6308
4 жыл бұрын
@James Harding amen brother...
@revilo178
4 жыл бұрын
@@onlyonecannoli3952 LOL
@rustyshackleford6369
3 жыл бұрын
Your devotion to detail is amazing. Even pouring rain sitting on the ground shooting the shotgun with one hand. Thanks for this video. Very enlightening to see the actual story from someone who’s studied it
@KENZOWAL
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't raining that day in Miami.
@redsentry9785
Жыл бұрын
@@KENZOWAL they meant that even though it was raining Paul still reenacted the scene.
@The_Red_Off_Road
3 ай бұрын
It’s Oregon. It only rains when you are driving at least 50mph. Any other time it’s just wet. Everything is wet. The air. The Sun. The trees. The clouds. Everything. Is. Wet. And then the sun comes out for three months straight and the world is beautiful. I loved it. You only have to turn the windshield wipers on when you are on the interstate. It never really rains. 😂
@harrycushing
3 ай бұрын
Congrats on 1 million Paul, hope you are doing as well as you can be
@HonestOutlawReviews
3 жыл бұрын
Who else has listened to this 5 times?
@wongyide7036
3 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon his videos and they're delivered so balanced and without any ego. I feel like if this man had received a different sort of training early on in life, he could have easily been a great teacher of any subject.
@sherwoodlovehead8120
3 жыл бұрын
second time now
@jalan8171
3 жыл бұрын
On number six.
@jamesb.9155
3 жыл бұрын
I'm skimming through . . .
@JaegerRukajarvi
3 жыл бұрын
I'm on my second listen. It's far from my last.
@Carbide195
5 жыл бұрын
>apologising for speech >one of the best speakers on KZitem I-uh. . . huh?
@metalema6
5 жыл бұрын
I think his pauses between sentences aren't voluntary, but from our end they just sound more professional and like he's more confident in what he's saying
@Commenter007
5 жыл бұрын
I think that he's a fantastic speaker!
@mikestanmore2614
5 жыл бұрын
The Dunning-Kruger effect. The incompetent overrate their ability. The competent underestimate their ability. Paul is an ex-instructor, I'd say a pretty good one, his communication skills are excellent.
@Gman941
5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could speak as well and as compentent as Paul does. He great to listen too, and makes an almost 35 year police shooting that of something that a great storyteller would do, very interesting!
@badcornflakes6374
5 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you grow up with less technology and you get more experience by talking to real people.
@quietside3734
2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch the television film from 1988 "In The Line of Duty: The FBI Murders", I always come here afterwards to watch this video. It's the perfect way to smooth out the story, and learn more about the details. Educational.
@chillpenguin64
2 ай бұрын
You mean you can put up with an hour and a half of David Soul?
@genemathis9562
2 жыл бұрын
I am a retired police officer. And for 5 years I was top gun with pistol and rifle. One year I was asked to lead our pistol team with our shootout at the county fair, against black powder shooters, but most of them were retired police officers, sheriffs, etc. I had like 10-12 guys that came out to try out for the pistol team. I was literally surprised, today thinking about it maybe SHOCKED would be a better word for it. None of the 12 shot very much and they were also pretty ignorant about their guns and their ammo. So after retiring and spending a little over 20 years as a police officer I would totally AGREE with your statement at the end, "...a complete marksmanship failure..." I have more that I could add but that makes the main point. However, I agree THAT was what got them into trouble!
@bunk95
6 ай бұрын
Youre a fictional thing? You knowingly marketing yourself as something from fiction?
@genemathis9562
6 ай бұрын
@@bunk95 AMAZING! I'm glad you know things better than I do, which I LIVED. I'm almost 80 years old and worked for two differeent departments in my career. What I was trying to show is that most cops do NOT take they firearm training and practice serious, at least they didn't in the 1970's and 80's! So tell me why you think I'm fiction? Try not to expose your ignorance like you did here.
@bunk95
6 ай бұрын
@@genemathis9562 you were kept as a slave that was marketed as part of departments that dont exist outside of fiction?
@chrisc9497
5 жыл бұрын
Best comment I've heard from a police officer was "Lawyers have weeks to go over actions we have seconds to perform".
@vitoprashad5670
4 жыл бұрын
"There is no replacement for shot placement" - Paul Harrell
@ktmcintyre
4 жыл бұрын
Paul should sell t-shirts with that on it.
@mu99ins
4 жыл бұрын
That is why I switched from autoloading rifles and pistols, to bolt actions and revolvers. While plinking at a friend's house in the woods, I noticed that I was shooting more and aiming less. And not shooting accurately. And if I wasn't aiming properly, I was wasting ammunition, which isn't cheap.
@kilobravo2373
4 жыл бұрын
@@icarusdeion There. Not the possessive form that you used (their). Do some service to that flag you have in your picture and show some respect to the language at the core of it. Unless your goal is to make Americans look like they don't care enough about their (possessive example #1) language, to even use it correctly. Also; I am willing to wager that nuclear warheads have some of the most complex and accurate guidance systems ever created by the human race. Trident 3's, Minutemen, SLBM's, cruise missile type, or guided bombs are all very, very accurate. Their (possessive example #2) ability to incinerate everything nearby a target, hardly means that accuracy isn't important. As anyone who has been shot at will tell you; accuracy is important to any weapon. From sticks and stones all the way up to nuclear weapons. It's also important in communicating. So please do Americans a favor and don't be the mutt that can't use the language of their (example #3) country correctly. If you don't care enough to do that, don't come off as the clown that thinks nuclear weapons aren't accurate. Some Americans have to protect your ability to think and speak however you choose, every single day and night, in other very un-friendly countries. You don't make it easy for any of us when you communicate like you did here.
@radforduniversity6424
4 жыл бұрын
He says these things with a straight face! Haha
@kilobravo2373
4 жыл бұрын
@@icarusdeion I have no idea. I was in a shitty mood. I apologize. It was actually a decent comeback.
@jordan8777
2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow veteran, I have truly been enjoying these videos and only wish I had found them sooner. It is refreshing to hear some intelligent reasoning instead of simply "what this bullet did is cool wow." I realize this is an old video but please keep them coming.
@kmiller0402
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service, Sir ❤
@bunk95
6 ай бұрын
Veterans are fictional. You think and act as if thats untrue? Often?
@69ChevyGarage
3 жыл бұрын
So in short, the agents that shot Bonnie and Clyde in '34 were better armed than the Platt & Matix agents in '86. Also keep in mind there were other crews of agents in the Greater Miami area armed with UZI's & MP5's. This particular group of agents were armed with Barney Miller guns and a well military trained shooter which I believe both men were, with a Mini14 stood his ground.
@RogueReplicant
Жыл бұрын
"Barney Miller guns", ha ha, great description 😁
@hardinmichael1981
Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t the FBI that got Bonnie and Clyde. It was Texas Rangers.
@Mike_LaFontaine75
Жыл бұрын
@@hardinmichael1981 And they killed them with rifles from ambush.
@hardinmichael1981
Жыл бұрын
@@Mike_LaFontaine75 and your point is?
@Mike_LaFontaine75
Жыл бұрын
@@hardinmichael1981 It had nothing in common with the FBI shooting.
@danielsmith2447
5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand claiming you have any annoying speech patterns, I think you are one of the best speakers on youtube.
@righthander26
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I dont know what it is about this guy but I love his videos.
@KathrynLiz1
4 жыл бұрын
Hear hear... he is very easy to listen to..... knows his stuff too....
@ebbelille
4 жыл бұрын
He has a slight stammer or something similar to that. It's very rarely noticeable, and I dont think it detracts from his oratory skills, which are formidable.
@cameronb7161
4 жыл бұрын
When everyone else is always shouting or using outdoor voices on KZitem, it's refreshing to hear someone just speaking.
@xsu-is7vq
4 жыл бұрын
He also has this bad habit of claiming he’s boring us and all his stories are too long. Each time he says that I wanted to grab him and say, “no, please elaborate.”
@caseylocke4474
5 жыл бұрын
17:45 - Starts raining. Paul doesn't care. On with the teaching! I love it. This gentleman's delivery style is the absolute embodiment of "teaching." He doesn't preach, he doesn't shout, he doesn't brag. But when you walk away, you have LEARNED from him.
@nigelft
5 жыл бұрын
I heard that the USMC Sniper School have a saying:- 'If it ain't raining, it ain't training ...'
@rollingrock3480
5 жыл бұрын
As we say in the Army, "If it ain't rainin' we ain't trainin'!"
@radioactiverat8751
5 жыл бұрын
@@nigelft I was just about to comment...
@ejf8225
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, he’s as clear, concise, and similar in style to Rod Serling. Good stuff
@mcbst2
5 жыл бұрын
can not ever walk away., its blood of good.,teaching of Paul redemption and truth., sincerely yours sir
@myfavoritemartian1
2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I got to view the FBI training film that was made off of this. They had been on stakeout for several hours and had to release half the team to go to lunch. The heat caused some of them to remove their vests. But that rifle was a force multiplier, in the wrong direction. They still charged into the firefight. Bravery can't always make up for everything.
@intrstrnr
Жыл бұрын
I've seen that training video once, not sure I could find it again. Was very good.
@thebernice6062
Жыл бұрын
I wish Paul would do more of these type of videos. He's very good at balancing narrative with demonstrations and as always, he's very balanced in analysis. There's lots of shootouts in American history that could the analytical summaries with demonstrations Paul specializes in.
@kevinp5325
5 жыл бұрын
"It's very easy to critique in leisure what other people had to do in haste." Wise words from a wise man.
@johnrice1943
5 жыл бұрын
You're the only one who quoted that correctly. You win the internet today.
@davidforrest1450
3 жыл бұрын
I think your analysis is spot on. I've read a lot about this 1986 shootout in Miami and I agree. A lack of preparation, poor marksmanship, and other factors. And to your point, no one can judge what how anyone will react in a real life shootout where decisions must be made in seconds. Great video! In the end it's extremely tragic we lost two FBI agents.
@jamesbrown9736
2 ай бұрын
This is the second time I have watched this from start to finish. Mr. Harrell did a fantastic job. He has truly been a fantastic source for a myriad of firearms content. May God Bless you Paul.
@BoilerRoomRadio
3 жыл бұрын
'Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.' -Mike Tyson
@drumking241
2 жыл бұрын
Then you cheat and bite your opponents ear
@RockyMountainWest13
2 жыл бұрын
Mike tython
@thekinginyellow1744
2 жыл бұрын
@@RockyMountainWest13 That's just mean! Funny, but mean. :)
@jediknight1294
2 жыл бұрын
And this is why we train, force on force, exposure to live fire, harsh environmental training etc.
@oldwarsnew5722
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone has a face til they get punched in the plan... Tike myson
@wjamyers
4 жыл бұрын
"Yes I know their names, I just choose not to say them." Subscribed.
@whiplash4427
4 ай бұрын
So let me get this stright..... 2.6 million views and only 71K likes? This dude is awesome. great analysis!
@Hjerte_Verke
3 ай бұрын
We can't be sure if we're seeing the correct number of Likes anymore since they took away the dislikes (or made them invisible to viewers) but I think total views are the real attribute and the one that matters. Most people forget about the Like button anyway and only about 1 out of 10 people remember to click it.
@aberj
3 жыл бұрын
I kept seeing this pop up in my feed and I had no idea as to what the 86 Miami Dade shooting. I actually had to search for it and watch the FBI Files about it. You are a true treasure sir. Thank you for not listening to the arm chair QBs. Your analogy is spot on. They are all talk!
@pharmagator
4 жыл бұрын
"Speed is great, but accuracy is everything...".
@shinobi1kenobi75
4 жыл бұрын
Speed is fine, but accuracy is final.
@chuckschillingvideos
4 жыл бұрын
No, having a cool head in the worst of all situations is everything.
@malancronje6805
4 жыл бұрын
That pairing with that snubnose is unbelievable. I shot with a snubnose and came to the conclusion that if the target is not on me I will be better off trying to throw the gun at the target.
@chuckschillingvideos
4 жыл бұрын
@@malancronje6805 Out of a snubby there is essentially no benefit whatsoever to .357 over 38 spl +P loads - especially in the 125 grain pills. All you're getting for the extra money is a lot more flash bangy and wrist snap and zero terminal effectiveness on the bad guy.
@blacksmith44
4 жыл бұрын
"Accuracy is everything" That was the point Wyatt Earp made back in his day... that long ago...
@NewGoldStandard
5 жыл бұрын
You frequently mention your speech impediment but I've watched most of your videos and have never noticed it. I don't think your disclaimer is necessary at all. I really enjoy your content, thanks.
@kwisatzhaderach1458
5 жыл бұрын
I developed a stuttering problem living in Asia 10 years, my accent is weird tooI put disclaimer on my other channel
@p51mustang24
5 жыл бұрын
I've never noticed a speech issue with Paul. he actually seems remarkably well spoken.
@Wolfspaule
4 жыл бұрын
One of most clearly understandable american I ever heard talking... I don´t either, what he is reffering to. An interesting, very knowledgeable, calm and nice guy in my opinion. I also like him for his parka. No bling bling or stuff for posing, just practical clothes, guns, ammonition and advices!
@CJ_18
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He’s very articulate and the disclaimer is unnecessary.
@xMaverickFPS
4 жыл бұрын
honestly, he speaks better than i do.
@Rixoli
2 жыл бұрын
"Now of all the failures we can talk about that day, I'm gonna have to say bravery is not one of them" Truer words haven't been spoken
@kaylee1781
2 ай бұрын
I randomly came across this video one night when I was a university student. This is the starting point of my journey into the firearms world.
@MKEOD
4 жыл бұрын
If feasible, please consider a similar analysis of the North Hollywood bank robbery shootout from the early 90s.
@anthonybasile2560
4 жыл бұрын
Yes pls
@toddk1377
4 жыл бұрын
Paul could tell that story better than any news story the media put out and be far more educational and entertaining. If I remember it was that shooting that made police agencies rethink their firearm selection as shotguns and pistols were not as effective on armored suspects who had automatic rifles. I could be wrong, but I think that was the turning point for agencies adopting the M4 platform and becoming more of a standard.
@adamb1748
4 жыл бұрын
I was just a kid but I remember my dad watching it on the news and them saying the cops had to go grab fire arms from a local gun shop to be able to match theirs
@StutleyConstable
4 жыл бұрын
Adam B - As far as I know, that is true. I heard it on the news after the event and I recall an interview with the owner of the gun shop. I think, though, that the weapons arrived too late to do the cops any good. I believe the bank robbers were already on the move and eventually one was engaged by SWAT. The other was engaged by officers but it is still uncertain whether he was killed by the cops or took his own life.
@ronniehdable
4 жыл бұрын
@@StutleyConstable they swear now he took his ,own life and the one on the front of the car got hit by SWAT team members in the legs and bled out because e.m.s were saving cops 1st as they should .
@Pewling
5 жыл бұрын
"I know their names but choose not to say it." Respect dude. Don't give those clowns the fame they desire :)
@poppinlochnesshopster3249
5 жыл бұрын
It's different in this case IMO, a guy shooting up a mosque wants fame, these guys wanted to rob banks.
@poppinlochnesshopster3249
5 жыл бұрын
@Gabrielk 2024 What a fucking load of horse shit.
@poppinlochnesshopster3249
5 жыл бұрын
@Gabrielk 2024 Burden of proof. Don't say bullshit then ask me to prove you wrong. Not how it works.
@andrewsheng5341
5 жыл бұрын
Poppin' Loch Ness Hopster honestly people like you who don’t actually re certify their own beliefs are why there is so much misinformation and just skewed information these days. You just simply don’t care about the truth. Maybe you are right and maybe he’s right but you don’t want to be wrong so you won’t spend like 4 mins to search it up. So you keep believing probably just your assumption or the first article you read(probably from mainstream media) and ran with it.
@poppinlochnesshopster3249
5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsheng5341 Again, he claimed something, it's on him to prove it, not on me to disprove it. THAT is how misinformation is spread.
@Helljumper91
2 жыл бұрын
I find it amazing that people talk about these kinds of situations like they'd be the hero if they had been there, when you know that they have never taken fire from another person or even had a gun pointed in their direction before. Being in a life or death situation and getting that huge adrenaline dump makes you forget everything you ever learned. This is why training in any skill is so important, and why law enforcement needs to be experts with their firearms. You can be confident in your abilities, but until they're tested under pressure you have no idea what you're going to do. I've had firsthand experience with this kind of stuff (not combat, but life or death situations). When my sister almost died, we had 4 people trying to call 911 and nobody could actually dial the number. I was in a calm enough mindset to do it but nobody handed me the phone because they were totally panicked and couldn't think straight. It took several minutes to actually get that phone call out, even though it seems so simple to dial 3 numbers on a phone. Dialing a phone number is much easier than trying to shoot at a target that's shooting back at you, and yet they still had trouble.
@wisconsinfirenerd
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most genuinely interesting analyses I've seen in ages, not just as a breakdown of the specific incidents but as a lesson in how fixation on isolated, de-contextualized points of data can drive policy or doctrine on a vast scale.
@jrcrawford4
3 жыл бұрын
"There's a few law enforcement shootings that I would consider 'required reading'...." Mr. Harrell, how about doing a video on each one?
@jediknight1294
2 жыл бұрын
The iconic 3 are Newhall, Miami-Dade and North Hollywood. If you can add mil/contractors stuff James Yeager's convoy incident is probably a good one to look at.
@Matt-xc6sp
2 жыл бұрын
@@jediknight1294 this. Also I think the more recent Dallas shooter should be studied more. The one where the bad guy sliced the pie hard on one cop and they had to call in the RCXD kill streak to take him down
@m249machinegun2
5 жыл бұрын
Lesson 1: Don't lose your glasses Lesson 2: Bring a high capacity automatic rifle Lesson 3: Shoot better
@matthewmorel3758
5 жыл бұрын
Lesson 4: don't get shot first.
@paulscott2037
5 жыл бұрын
I know you're joking but I feel like you missed out on part of what Mr. Harrell was trying to teach us. That you shouldn't try to oversimplify these events. It wasn't just that the agent lost his glasses it was that he didn't plan ahead and think that his glasses might get knocked off in the kerfuffle and take adequate precautions. And a high calibre might have helped, but your point 3 should disregard the need for high capacity. I'm not saying a rifle with a lot of ammo wouldn't still be useful but that ultimately there is a lot of nuance that can't necessarily be broken down into black and white points of fact.
@ulvesparker
5 жыл бұрын
Part of the "lack of preparation" is underestimating their opponents. Both (suspect) shooters had military training and backgrounds and continued the fight even after severe wounding.
@p51mustang24
5 жыл бұрын
@betatalk357 That;s why most officers have a patrol rifle and / or shotgun now. That didn't happen until at least the late 90's though. marksmanship > all else though
@BirdRaiserE
5 жыл бұрын
Profile matches post
@revejmal
3 ай бұрын
Aboit 4 years ago i discovered this channel after seeing videos of the miami shootout. I think i was researching 9mm vs .40 efficacy, i dont remember but im glad it lead me here. I watched and realized that Paul was the exact type of person i wanted to watch and learn from. No nonsense and appealed to my "just the facts but with a little bit of snark" attitude. I've watched his vids throughout the years. Sometimes paying attention, sometimes not. I liked his videos but don't think I've actually stopped and appreciated his work, its now years later, and Paul may sadly leave us soon and I'm genuinely heartbroken. I wish we had more time with him.
Miami Dade is more about revolvers vs semi autos and hollows vs hollows
@johndixon9988
3 жыл бұрын
Paul, this is the very first video I've watched from you and it's fantastic. I appreciate you giving credit where it's due and criticism when it's needed, all the while not relying on conjecture and limiting your opinions when you don't have substantiated facts to consider. Bravo.
@larrylarryong8919
3 жыл бұрын
How about an analysis of the 44 minute shootout of the Northern Hollywood Bank on Feb. 1997.
@monkmoto1887
3 жыл бұрын
Real life GTA
@jameswarner8038
2 жыл бұрын
@@monkmoto1887 I think real life was around first
@cartersachs3992
2 жыл бұрын
He gonna come out with a 2 day analysis
@bigt7706
2 жыл бұрын
@@jameswarner8038 false! GTA was the first thing created in the big bang
@karlhaber1904
2 жыл бұрын
THAT is a great Idea 👍.
@RoyalTiger13
3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Harrell, as a military firearms instructor and a police officer for over 25 years, I just want to say thank you for your videos and watch (and learn) often. Please keep up the good fight.
@AmalekIsComing
2 жыл бұрын
SKINWALKER
@alanhelgeson690
2 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell, please keep up your great work
@tracythorleifson4108
2 жыл бұрын
This is my third time watching this video, the first having been shortly after it first came out. This my first time commenting; I’m not a LEO, and feel a bit out of my depth among so many with far more expertise. Each time, I’ve come away struck by two things. The first is the incredible courage and determination of the agents involved. We can sit back and nitpick their decisions and tactics, but the fact remains that they stood their ground and stayed in fight, and they all fought as hard and as long as they could, even with horrific and/or fatal wounds. I don’t think that kind of fortitude is something that can be taught. God bless them. The second is simply this: never bring a handgun to a long gun fight. My effective range shooting offhand with a rifle is easily 4-5x what I can achieve with a handgun; it’s just so much easier to make hits with a rifle. And the terminal effects of a rifle round, even the diminutive 5.56, far outclass any handgun cartridge. 9mm vs. .38 Spl vs. .357 is a moot point when there’s a rifle round in the mix. Even though the agents had the advantage of numbers, they were badly outgunned, and it wasn’t until the shotgun got back into the fray that the fight swung their way.
@Jason-iz6ob
3 жыл бұрын
After 22 years in law enforcement I know one of the main problems these agents faced. Idiots up the chain of command more interested in one of their people solving the problem than in a unit that was actually properly trained and equipped to deal with it getting the mission....
@donoimdono2702
Жыл бұрын
100% ! I can't count the number of times I begged for more hours and rounds for training my officers only to be told it wasn't in the budget. my answer was always, "the check will be way bigger when one of our guys gets hurt or has a bad shoot!"
@ericredbear425
3 жыл бұрын
Fifth time in 4 years I've watched this video. My biggest lesson learned: I don't ever want to be in a firefight ... unless I have Paul Harrell in my ankle holster.
@markmudgett7579
3 жыл бұрын
You know, he has been on two-way live fire ranges for real. And he survived!
@pcarrierorange
2 жыл бұрын
36 states have laws affirming constitutional carry of Paul Harrell, but 4 of those require a video length of no longer than 15”.
@jediknight1294
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Lesson 1. Don't get Shot. It sucks. Trust me.
@BukitMan
4 жыл бұрын
Until I saw the new Jeep. I was wondering how the quality was so good on a film from the 80's . Clearly this is my first time here.
@glx4909
4 жыл бұрын
it's his coat.. an old classic.
@farmninja6653
4 жыл бұрын
He has a strong vintage vibe. Lol.
@BukitMan
4 жыл бұрын
@@farmninja6653 I've seen those, his Wife must love it... Those old ones really pound beeve.
@MrJin520
4 жыл бұрын
@@BukitMan It's called BDE.
@tienkami
4 жыл бұрын
That is hilarious.
@TractorBeam29
6 ай бұрын
I was born in the early 80s. Started getting into guns in my teens and I've heard gun people talking about this 1986 Miami Dade Shooting data point for literally decades.
@Shadowlord4
3 жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite of all of your many great presentations. I've watched through it several times since it premiered.
@jyc2201
5 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else catch Paul "pat himself on the back"? 😂 That's gold my friend. Love the subtle sarcasm.
@rebelinreb402
4 жыл бұрын
If you watch at playback speed.25 he even tots a small horn that he pulls out of he's left pocket
@Bogie6588
4 жыл бұрын
@@rebelinreb402 ....HAHA!!
@cwarchibald5999
5 жыл бұрын
I began my law enforcement career in 1969 and retired in 1999. I spent many years as a firearms trainer. The Newhall incident and Miami-Dade had a major impact on our training. Your presentation and analysis is right on the money. Btw, when Newhall occurred, one of the first things we were told is that one officer put his empties in his pocket. We all did that. That procedure changed immediately. Well done.
@jshepard152
5 жыл бұрын
What's the issue with that? Grabbing empty brass when needing to reload?
@jshepard152
5 жыл бұрын
@Roderick storey Makes sense. Thanks.
@johnrice1943
5 жыл бұрын
@Roderick storey idk why he catches it In the first place. Let it fall free from the cylinder.
@codykronz8719
Жыл бұрын
I have watched this video probably 6 times, and now im watching it again as it came across the feed. one of the best and most informative educational videos on youtube regarding police activities. I would love to see more of this format from Paul, the way he demonstrates the fine details of these types of situations is something to look up to. We need more long winded, intelligent and passionate people like paul, because that is how you teach effectively, with passion and nuance.
@allens4974
2 жыл бұрын
I for one never wondered "what if" or critiqued these agents. My thought while studying it was "what can I learn from this, to help me be better prepared?" Thank you for informative and good video.
@rodneysimms6080
4 жыл бұрын
“I could go on for an hour” please do.
@cougar2k720
3 жыл бұрын
Hear hear, lol
@AnotherRiderOnTheStorm
3 жыл бұрын
@@cougar2k720 🤔
@OnlinePersonafication
2 жыл бұрын
Slap another hour on top of that hour you requested
@mickymcfarts5792
5 жыл бұрын
I like that you give no credit to the perpetrators. Something main stream media could learn from
@WattsUpTez10mm
5 жыл бұрын
Most people idolize the perps. Billy the Kid, John Dillenger, Jessie James, Capone
@davidporowski9512
5 жыл бұрын
micky mcfarts Much Credit To LEOs to Take On Banditoes To Protect Public// Kudos To Running Into Fray, A 2-way Firing Range. Much Respect.
@dumitrache12
5 жыл бұрын
Never understood what was to point of deliberately hiding the identity of criminals. Is the world not ready to see their faces? Is humanity treated like 5 yrs old child ?
@SuperiorBrick
5 жыл бұрын
SirCrown Yeah, the world is about 5, ever heard of copycat killers, people killing for fame etc etc?
@DANNYHEADSHOT
5 жыл бұрын
I'm more in favor of withholding the identities of mass shooters in particular. They absolutely do it for attention. Leaving manifestos and the like behind. The media turns every one into a celebrity and this encourages others who are thinking of doing the same.
@1978garfield
Ай бұрын
Hello Paul. I hope you are well or at least as well as can be expected considering. This was the first video of yours I ever saw. I was instantly hooked. Your quote "It is very easy to critique in leisure what other people had to do in haste." should be carved in marble 10 feet high and referred to at every police shooting & every self defense incident. Thank you for all you have taught me and many, many others over the years. You have provided a college level education in firearms for free. I wish you all the best. Vaya Con Dios.
@nicholas73018
4 ай бұрын
I think this might have been the first video of yours I ever saw. Definitely one of the first for sure. I’m so glad I stumbled unto your channel and have enjoyed the content over the years.
@georgeholder5076
4 жыл бұрын
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson (FBI 1 hand shotgun shooting)
@jbertucci
4 жыл бұрын
I used to be an adventurer until I got ... uh nevermind
@Floridaman1780_
4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Slackware it was Holyfield, not Foreman. And that was on the fly, his plan went to shit when he got punched in the mouth.
@ahuman2695
3 жыл бұрын
@Robert Slackware lol
@BuggaBoy69
3 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson might not be the most intelligent or well spoken individual but he was an absolute master in ambush and fighting tactics
@lukas.ferreira3916
3 жыл бұрын
If you can’t handle getting punched in the mouth, you have no business fighting in the first place.
@jc-vc7xq
4 жыл бұрын
As a retired LEO I’ve studied the FBI Miami Dade shooting over the years. I would say you have a very accurate assessment of what went wrong.
@cdreid99999
3 жыл бұрын
We are judging by modern standards too where everyone and their brother haz an ar15 or 308 and 40 cals w 26 round mags and the entire country includint the police are militarised. This and the lapd gunfoght have convinced the country that we are in a war zone despite low crime and LEO being one of the safest jobs on the planet. I agree they were underarmed. But as he daid its easy to be accurate against paper...look at how he takes 2 seconds per shot... What teally happened here and in la is they went up against two aggressive paychopaths willing to die rather than be captured. You likely arent either. Giving you a 308 to fight back with with probably help.. But youre an actual human. None of these guys were. They were berserkers on their death day and all they wanted was lots lf dead cops and to be remembered
@jeffshackelford539
3 жыл бұрын
Whats a LEO?
@jc-vc7xq
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffshackelford539 Law enforcement officer
@mr2010GM
3 жыл бұрын
In law enforcement element of surprise is the best offense. In this case, The bad guys were arm with superior power and are aware of the tailgate pursuit. The FBI agent had two choice 1. To fight and suffer heavy casualty. 2. Retreat, radio for back up and set up for road blocks. I would like to mention two later event whereby, Retreat was used to prevent law enforcement casualty: A. ATF raids branch Davidian compound Waco, Texa----------Retreat superior power and casualty against ATF agents. B. Scot Peterson parkland school shooting ------some people say mr. Peterson was a coward, I disagreed. I call it a retreat a hand gun vs. AR-15
@jc-vc7xq
3 жыл бұрын
@@mr2010GM Retreat is not an option in a mass shooting. Law enforcement is trained to engage as the first responder.
@Bary_McCokner
3 ай бұрын
31:00 "It is not the critic who counts. Credit belongs to the man in the arena. -Theodore Roosevelt
@ArmyHumveeLaat
3 жыл бұрын
Paul, in my opinion your description of the incident is the most accurate and knowledgable in the internet ( I watched documentaries, they have literally missed every sensitive detail you have covered)
@tomanderson7696
4 жыл бұрын
As a retired LEO with thousands of rounds downrange and having been several use of deadly force incidents (incl. the terminal adjudication of one armed adversary), I can say this: you have hit the mark on all your points! Looking forward to watching all your videos!
@onlyonecannoli3952
4 жыл бұрын
As someone who has watched the movies "Heat" and "The Untouchables" several times each, I agree as well!
@666babybitch
4 жыл бұрын
getredytagetredy sarcasm really goes over your head, huh
@cdreid99999
3 жыл бұрын
@@getredytagetredy whats it like to be a betamale looser ive always been curious
@kapjoteh
3 жыл бұрын
Tom Anderson don’t think u should be bragging about shooting a cripple
@caiuspostumiusturrinus1024
3 жыл бұрын
@@666babybitch At the same time he is speaking the truth...
@robpetry84
4 жыл бұрын
"It's easy to critique in leisure, what other people had to do in haste" -Paul Harrell
@edparker9837
4 жыл бұрын
That's going to be my Facebook Post of the Day
@leroyhovatter7051
3 жыл бұрын
Words of wisdom.
@sdghtjsdcgs
3 жыл бұрын
Just after he critiqued their marksmanship and preparedness. Which was justified, I just don't get the double standard.
@MichaelSkelton
Жыл бұрын
Mr. Harrell, really enjoy your deep, insightful analysis on this event. I was only a young child when it occurred, so I have no recollection of it. This is the most comprehensive treatment of this encounter, and perhaps the most in-depth analysis I've seen of *any* historical "shootout". Not being familiar with any of the tactical training that law enforcement or the FBI had in place contemporary to that shooting, but after watching your video, the point that resonated with me was the numerical advantage the agents had over their adversaries: 6 agents to 1 operationally active shooter. My question is, were there no tactics available for the agents to work jointly/in tandem to leverage their numerical advantage to e.g. outmaneuver/outflank their opponents, or provide cover fire for one or more to advance or better their position, or stagger their engagement so one or more agents are firing while others reload? My uninformed opinion is that the agents outnumbering the "bad guys" was a missed opportunity because it seemed like they didn't coordinate their activities and were all acting independently/concurrently, with seemingly no rhyme or reason to what how they would terminate the engagement with a successful outcome. Appreciate your work in presenting this event.
@GenderSkins
2 жыл бұрын
Paul, you said something that I remember from my fire arms training, when I was qualifying for my fire arms commission. As my fire arms range instructor, mentioned the incident of a guy getting killed because he got in the habit of picking up his spent casings when at the range due to reloading his ammo. That instructor was supposedly an ex-Navy Seal. My late father who is ex-U.S. Army, also taught me not to pick up spent casing. This was of course due to those spent casings being HOT! But it stuck with me even after I left law enforcement. And it isn’t fun being shot at. But I would consider the raid on the Branch Dividians, to be at the top of that list.
@jwf1208
4 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to talk one on one with Gordon McNeil from this shootout. We were attending a homicide conference in Galveston, where I was a police officer, and were at an after conference crawfish boil. He and I happened to sit at a table alone and were able to talk about this event for about 30-40 minutes. He was not at all hesitant to talk in detail about the engagement. It was fascinating and I really appreciated the opportunity.
@vanguard2688
2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome man, he seems like a down to earth " mans man" Gordon's the man!!
@sandykatz3149
2 жыл бұрын
About as real as you can get without being there! Must be a memorable event to a tough event!with a smile-Lucky you!
@Gmar69
5 жыл бұрын
Paul, I'm retired L.E., and former Vietnam vet, and my opinion is that the suspects were simply more prepared than the FBI, simply they were behind in training. The FBI did not train appropriately for this scenario. Thanks for your videos.
@andrewdods2236
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Kedeas
5 жыл бұрын
As a culture the FBI needed to and did make many changes. Changes felt throughout multiple Law Enforcement levels. Complacency can be very detrimental.!!!
@Bob.W.
5 жыл бұрын
Platt and Matix were marine and ranger trained. The agents were outclassed. Actually I think the agents did as well as they could. If Matix had not been hit early on they potentially could have killed all the agents.
@beavis408
5 жыл бұрын
@@Bob.W. "as well as they could"? What happens if the agent firing 20-something rounds with the semi auto 9mm.....had his glasses on??
@Bob.W.
5 жыл бұрын
Who knows if it would have changed anything? Platt took a lot of hits and still functioned well enough to kill 2 agents. Matix was out of the fight very early. Grogan may have done better. Or not.
@silvermane1741
11 ай бұрын
One of the best, if not the best synopsis of the FBI Miami-Dade shoot-out on the internet. i tip my hat to you Paul.👍
@mikesnuf
2 жыл бұрын
I think you provide GREAT lessons. I hear all this advice but I always question the "expertise" of people who think know a lot about weapons but have never experienced a real-life situation. The lack of preparation segment is probably the best tip. I hear SEAL guys talk about putting a lot of time into preparing for missions.
@757optim
6 жыл бұрын
Dude, as for your "apology" wrt verbal presentation - you present better than most people who are using a teleprompter. So, there's that.
@junckmailsucks10203
6 жыл бұрын
agree - wouldn't notice any issues at all without it being brought up... (or actually don't really notice either way)
@maybetomorrowmaybe
5 жыл бұрын
hes a better speaker than 90% of youtubers tbh
@REVOLVERS365
5 жыл бұрын
@@junckmailsucks10203 he's being humble about it. He talks better than a Harvard professor
@nosfctech
6 жыл бұрын
You are on point, informative, smart, well educated, humble and easy to listen person all at the same time! You have your own style and you don't try to copy anyone or look tacticool! I have never seen anything like you in youtube, you are so original! This channel will take off fast! Keep it up!
@Heyoupally
5 жыл бұрын
Take it easy, Urkel... Though I do agree he is the most informative in his own humble way which does make him a much more "DTE" type of pointer.
@FirstLast-fr4hb
5 жыл бұрын
They dont make men like this anymore
@caseylocke4474
5 жыл бұрын
@@Heyoupally nosfctech is dead on. You might consider not name calling when someone has a differing opinion than yours.
@dylanroof5577
5 жыл бұрын
He's basically a really smart uncle with guns. I love the lack of pretentiousness.
@luisortiz-dq9gv
5 жыл бұрын
took the words out right out my mouth, this man deserves respect.
@slopedude1345
3 жыл бұрын
The opinions of such experienced and well articulated individuals should be more prevalent. I'm tired of being given information from people who do not know what they're talking about. These lengthy videos are very comprehensive and informative, keep up the great work, man!
@krusk3544
3 жыл бұрын
I've watched this video almost a dozen times. A very informative presentation about a shooting that teaches many lessons for modern shooters. Thank you very much!
@1978garfield
5 жыл бұрын
This was my first Paul Harrell video. I was hooked. Been a subscriber ever since.
@justingrant4860
4 жыл бұрын
Right......I watched one video last month and been binging when I can since
@aceambling7685
4 жыл бұрын
same
@J__C__
4 жыл бұрын
Makes it even better when you can watch it through Chromecast on your big screen TV 👍🏻 I think it's time to sub 🤷🏻♂️
@DeadPixel1105
4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@RUTired
6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you not using the names of the killers. It's a practice that needs to be adopted for more current events.
@TheWatcher328
6 жыл бұрын
what is the purpose?
@a.ortega4505
6 жыл бұрын
TheWatcher328 so others Don't do the same for fame/ public reconditing
@Seth9809
6 жыл бұрын
Every school shooter for years, has the photos of the previous ones hanging somewhere in their room, or something like that.
@jx4storm838
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with not using the names
@dunhillsupramk3
6 жыл бұрын
well this is the 1st time i'm hearing this story, i'll refer to the shooters as "dumbass #1" and "dumbass #2"
@lindafoxwood78
11 ай бұрын
I might be the only person that has watched this video 10+ times? It is still the most and best video on the subject.
@DorianeRoars
3 жыл бұрын
i just discovered the FBI Miami Dade shooting, and your video as well. Thank you for being such an objective, realistic teacher. I've done my Army time, never been on ops, but as you said so well at the end, i would never judge someone's decision in a combat action from the comfort of my couch. These FBI agent showed some failure, but also skills, and bravery. Thanks a lot for teaching history and facts.
@jasonarcher7268
4 жыл бұрын
Theres no excuse for the glasses getting lost. I was a paratrooper with glasses, and that was kind of a priority. Carry an extra pair and make sure those things have a strap.
@jasonarcher7268
3 жыл бұрын
@Robert Slackware as an 'archer' i was door jumper on my first jump. Ill never forget that one. I landed with my feet apart.... and it hurt like hell. I remember limping back to the rally point, realizing that id just learned an important lesson in PLFing.
@ronschramm9163
4 жыл бұрын
Ineed, the "Chairborne Rangers" are terrific at hindsight.
@rogerpartner1622
2 жыл бұрын
Chairborne Rangers 😂😂Cracked me up
@ronschramm9163
2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerpartner1622 What we called them in the Army. I guess now they are Keyboard Kommandos.
@sipofsunscorchedsarsaparil6052
2 жыл бұрын
They're more accurate with hindsight than most people would be with a good red dot.
@ronschramm9163
2 жыл бұрын
@@sipofsunscorchedsarsaparil6052 You've got that right!
@pliskenx51mm83
3 жыл бұрын
Honest, straight forward and to the point while being assertive! The world needs more Paul Harrell's
@carterbaumer358
2 жыл бұрын
I seriously love Paul Harrell. I have never regularly watched someone in this category of media, I admire his wisdom and intelligence. I have been looking to purchase his merchandise, I have never purchased merchandise from any youtuber within the 10 years I have been using KZitem. He really is an amazing informative person and am thankful that he is around here for us. I have learned so much from him. Keep up the amazing work as always, Paul.
@slick3129
3 жыл бұрын
Very good point about "woulda, Shoulda". I had a coworker, a very good guy who had extensive experience playing airsoft games in college. He talked about great games in which he had both won and lost due to mistakes; i.e. he wasn't too proud to admit that sometimes he screwed up. He did say that he'd never fired any real firearms before. I an some of my friends took him to a range day and let him fire revolvers and semiauto pistols in various calibers and an AR. He came away with an entirely different view of his airsoft experiences; especially as regards noise and recoil of a firearm. The point is that gaining experience reveals insights he wasn't really expecting.
@simonb.7755
7 жыл бұрын
I love your speaking style. Like the best professor in a University :)
@scrider8464
7 жыл бұрын
Agree, and Paul seems to base his views of Reality and backs up his views with reasons. Very little, B/C I Say So. But I think I would disregard whatever Paul says at my peril.
@REVOLVERS365
5 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more
@karlhaber1904
2 жыл бұрын
I can't say how much I enjoyed your feet on the ground reality- based, grown-up, perspective on these things. There was a lot to learn from the Miami-Dade Shooting, the biggest lesson I've learned from it was it doesn't matter what you have if you don't hit the target.Time-It nauseated me how the FBI tried to claim Pope to the public that the lack of firepower was the cause for This Disaster. It was nauseating politics it was designed to take everybody's eyes out the fact these FBI agents made a basic tactical error that was subsidized with bad marksmanship.Since a person doesn't have time to make every mistake made by everyone else in the world, learning from other people's mistakes can be highly educational and I appreciate you for providing the opportunity to do so by breaking down this event from the perspective of Facts, Truth And Reality Thank you again Mr. Harrell.
@imscaredandconfused
Жыл бұрын
you have been on my recommendations for a long time and now i had to watch this and i love it. I think it's time to start bingewatching once again
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