People need to get over the whole interior thing lol. Its cool but with out a complete gameplay overhaul it wont amount to anything. You already can manage your entire ship and have no need to sleep or eat in the game. It would be a waste in my opinion. But thats me. I have SC and played it for 2 years straight, now im coming back to Elute lol. Base building could be far more interesting depending on what you can do with it. PP is a joke always has been. It needs to have consequences that are drastic....
@azog23
7 күн бұрын
Totally agree about the ship interiors. Without a good reason for needing to walk around your ship it's something that people will use once or twice until they get over the novelty. People talk about customising the interiors, but are you really going to do that when you have a fleet of 40-50 ships?
@57thorns
7 күн бұрын
If the only change is that you can work up your ranks at your own pace doing things that are similar to bgs work, and that everyone has access to all the power play modules, that is still a huge change to the current one that requires a significant investment of time every week.
@papabrou
4 күн бұрын
I wouldn't really call that a Huge change...it's the bare minimum change to call it PP2.0, keep in mind that 95% of the players only pledge, wait 4 weeks and haul to get the module then switch to another power, it's only a significant investment of time for the handful of powerplayers, most players don't care if a power gains or lose territory. I fear that "at your own pace" means the crazies will get max rank in 2 weeks, the rest of us in max 2 months and then everyone will basically forget about PP... what I wish will happen is somehow the targoid war gets replaced by the Powers War...
@tedstriker4278
7 күн бұрын
Ascendancy was great. I loved that Game 😊
@aldar98
5 күн бұрын
Leaderboards will be a way to "prevent" unseen bots... xD
@apersonthatis7007
Күн бұрын
Wait till you figure out after the early access for content creators dropped, enforcers from any opposing power can attack you anytime in their systems and you get a bounty for defending yourself.
@Astyrrean
23 сағат бұрын
Ouch!
@cozmikal7832
7 күн бұрын
I don’t get the fascination people have for open only.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
Nobody is saying to take solo or pg modes away from you. The point we are making here is that a game mode that is specifically designed for players to compete, should, you know, actually make players interact, rather than providing an out. This is specific for Powerplay. If you want to run passenger missions, then by all means, go ahead and do it on your own. But if you’re going to “take a side” and fight for a power competitively, well then I don’t think you should be able to do so hidden away. It completely sinks the Powerplay experience and keeps it as meaningless as it presently is.
@Bloodarcher43
Күн бұрын
@Astyrrean ignoring how easy it is to hide, or the skill gaps...Hotas vs KBM/Con....just saying there's alot more to it then the classic "you should work for it" arguments
@eternallight523
6 күн бұрын
The Mandalay has all my focus, by the time I come back from the deep black is when we will have PP 3.0, lmfao.
@Garlakel
7 күн бұрын
It might also be that they simply didn't want to show too much of it to not spoil it. We will see if it will indeed be just a reskin or if it will be something more. I definitely appreciate most of the changes that have been shared with us though.
@AtlasRandGaming
7 күн бұрын
We shall see this month. Frankly anything to change PP in any direction is good. Hopefully Aisling will now drop to bottom of popularity. As far as not forcing people into open, they have the stats to see how few people play in open. So they need to make update relevant to the most people. They already got enough people bitching about how horrible thargoids are and how few people ever want to fight them, they don’t want to make the new feature for only the 5% of players who want pvp. I used to play Eve and anyone looking for pure pvp play should look at EvE and Star Citizen.
@jellowiggler
6 күн бұрын
I don't think they have given enough info to make any determination. I don't know whether it's because they haven't thought of the questions of the details asked, or if they don't want to answer them before making the features live. Either way they are playing a dangerous game with their reputation which has already been battered with a recent history of luke warm to disasterous launches.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
We certainly don’t know anything - but we have been shown and told quite a bit by now, and that’s what I’ve been commenting on. I mean, I’ll be the first to be delighted at being proven shamefully wrong here. But maybe I won’t be wrong, and maybe FDEV should have listened and lowered the hype on “Ascendancy”. Time will tell.
@wastelandoffroad1
7 күн бұрын
Actually super glad it won't be open only. The only people that play open are lag switching gankers.
@jaheba
7 күн бұрын
@@wastelandoffroad1 that's incredible wrong.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
Nobody is saying to take solo or pg modes away from you. The point we are making here is that a game mode that is specifically designed for players to compete, should, you know, actually make players interact, rather than providing an out. This is specific for Powerplay. If you want to run passenger missions, then by all means, go ahead and do it on your own. But if you’re going to “take a side” and fight for a power competitively, well then I don’t think you should be able to do so hidden away. It completely sinks the Powerplay experience and keeps it as meaningless as it presently is.
@jaheba
5 күн бұрын
@@Astyrrean 100% that's exactly why we mine in open!
@Rythillian
6 күн бұрын
I'll be interested to see how this actually turns out. If it is a massive overhype then it'll definitely affect the good streak they've got going and also hurt expectations on the new unannounced feature. On the other hand if it does turn out to have more in it than just a reskin ui update (an minor qol changes), then it'll very much boost that feeling of a new era for elite.
@kempo79
7 күн бұрын
My hype faded away after a delay announcement, for it was building up for months till september and then it just fizzled.
@cmdrxla1107
7 күн бұрын
Perhaps a bit premature. I will pass judgement on what is released. I would expect some surprises in what we get. The Carrier groups in control systems might have some game play with them. For me, if being a power player stops my ability to truck without unnecessary extra intradictions or interferes in any way with other things i enjoy. i will not leave my power and not take part. It should be open only, but it will just feed the gankers. perhaps Power play maybe is just aimed at early or middle game players who still needs things like credits, mats, PP modules or maybe Arks etc. I don't really need much of this so i don't know what's in it for me and other veterans. Maybe we need stuff from Powerplay for Base building ? Let's See. o7
@deevy7746
7 күн бұрын
The best time I had was with other cmdrs working together, talking on Discord while killing Thargoids and making 40 mil per. I miss those cmdrs
@breauxme
6 күн бұрын
So this boils down to community play vs. solo play. I prefer solo play - so Powerplay 2.0 seems to be engineered toward my preferences. Bravo!
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
Nobody is saying to take solo or pg modes away from you. The point we are making here is that a game mode that is specifically designed for players to compete, should, you know, actually make players interact, rather than providing an out. This is specific for Powerplay. If you want to run passenger missions, then by all means, go ahead and do it on your own. But if you’re going to “take a side” and fight for a power competitively, well then I don’t think you should be able to do so hidden away. It completely sinks the Powerplay experience and keeps it as meaningless as it presently is.
@breauxme
5 күн бұрын
@@Astyrrean I would enjoy a powerplay 2.0 that allowed me the opportunity play it without community involvement. Sure community play can be fun, but i prefer it without..
@Astyrrean
4 күн бұрын
@@breauxme Sorry but that position doesn't compute. PowerPlay is designed FOR community involvement. Are you going to ask for CQC to be available in solo mode as well next? There's a gazillion activities in Elite that don't require any community involvement. This was meant to be one of the two that did, and they are designed it so it'll be DoA.
@trouvereyork
6 күн бұрын
From what they have announced already going into this new (free) update, I'm feeling pretty good about it. Lots of things that made Powerplay uninteresting to me before are being either addressed or changed altogether. As to open play or not, I get the difficulty here. Elite has always prided itself on its solo/PG/open offer and they have to tread carefully before they break that existing contract with players. Personally, I think open activity should be at least 100% more effective in powerplay than otherwise. I think it would be unwise to shut PG or solo out of Powerplay altogether though. Perhaps kills of rival power CMDRs should be super-rewarded with regard to promoting powerplay interests, but that could scare less experienced flyers into PG/solo exacerbating the existing problem. Fdev themselves raised the issue of making open play preferential variables so I'm totally ready to believe that they want to suck it and see first. Furthermore, making an adjust like this a month or two into the future would be fairly simple dev work compared to creating/hiring a specialist team to add VR implementation.
@rubbernuke1234
6 күн бұрын
Given that there are nods and design features that lean towards Open (and that the devs themselves on the deep dive spoke in PvP terms of fights) there has to be more of an incentive to play in Open for V2 for all that to 'work'. But the rest is (on paper) surprisingly robust- 5C should be nearly impossible and you have strategy coming from what expansions to support (unlike in V1 where it was crazy maths).
@FlecheDeFer
7 күн бұрын
I have 10'000+ hours in Elite, and yet I've basically never engaged with PP in any form, except for getting the modules... I guess this tells you how broken/useless this thing is, and how much would be needed to make it interesting and/or enjoyable. I hope I'm wrong, but highly doubt that's what we're getting here.
@leeebbrell9
7 күн бұрын
I was also hoping, a power controlled system boosts INF on missions done by faction allied to power
@TapticDigital
7 күн бұрын
Why would I want to build a base when I can’t even walk around the already fully modeled cockpit of my ship? I’ve put in over 3500hrs into Elite and never found a reason to engage with PP, I’m hopeful they’ll make at least some change that draws attention.
@enrogae
7 күн бұрын
I'm with you. Really hope it isn't base building. I already have a mobile base in my fleet carrier. Just let me actually do more with it.
@prisonerofthehighway1059
7 күн бұрын
That’s the whole point of the rework. “Engaging with PP” is now just playing the game. All the modules are available to every power so there’s no need to hop around and the high tier rewards will be a passive income of endgame materials. Changing a system that is basically worthless and obtuse into a system that’s easy to use and rewarding is exactly the kind of small changes fdev should be doing to get their skills up before trying something crazy.
@alz722
7 күн бұрын
Never found a reason? Loads of unique modules, and doubling of combat bonds and bounties! XD Your loss dude.
@papabrou
6 күн бұрын
@@alz722 you're not really doing powerPlay if all you're doing is pledging then waiting 4 weeks for a module, or hauling 10k pamphlets every 6 months when you have enough combat bonds to cash in... What I hope Power play brings is a reason to Login and play...
@TsugaCanadensis1979
5 күн бұрын
boo hoo. ship interiors... boo hoo. There is NO GAME PLAY LOOP VALUE IN SHIP INTERIORS. "but I just want to walk around my ship"... Get a life.
@kakabixlis
7 күн бұрын
Commander you have expressed my feelings completely ,it is true that i possibly wont bother with PeePee 2.0 because there wont be a competition as all will be hidden in group and in solo ..lets face it why one should sweat in open trying to do something for his power while others from the safety of their "couch"with 0 effort to bleed for their power ninja the results?apparently all EVE online players who are actually fighting for their corporations and loose assets are basically idiots for doing so(former eve online player) No PP wont work if it is group /solo ,wanna gain ,bleed and sweat for it...this is supposed to be Elite Dangerous and not Elite Carebear edition and the ganker excuse is old and stale...learn to high wake learn to flght there is no shame in that but hiding behind and ninja stuff...nah ...and people who say whats wrong with open and the infatuation with it ,it is that we like to meet other people and play together and combine together not hiding in groups and isolate ourselves...this is a game about teaming up and helping eachother/fight eachother.Glory to AX ,Glory to Mankind and Glory to Tau Ceti.
@czerwonyniebieski
7 күн бұрын
Chill out Cmdr. We will see what's up in a week.
@kunimitanaka1079
7 күн бұрын
Frontier does not learn and does not respect its players. That much is clear. The over-hyping everything they do is just evidence of that.
@leeebbrell9
7 күн бұрын
I was also hoping, a power controlled system boosted If missions done by faction allied to power
@erroristic
7 күн бұрын
OH man, it's 2024 and gamers need to learn to not get hyped by any devs about any game/update. No hype = no dissapointment.
@LetGoMyEggOh
7 күн бұрын
Time to make fun of explorers because....*checks notes".... they're alone
@Astyrrean
7 күн бұрын
Alas, for that very reason, there’s no such thing as an individual explorer leaderboard.
@LetGoMyEggOh
7 күн бұрын
@@Astyrrean so if there was a leader board for explorers you feel like everyone would make fun of them?
@Astyrrean
7 күн бұрын
@@LetGoMyEggOh I mean at least exploration is kind of designed to be done alone, or with a generally small group of friends. So no, even if there was a personal leaderboard for such stuff, it would not be as cringe as the new upcoming PP2.0 leaderboards.
@LetGoMyEggOh
7 күн бұрын
@Astyrrean Than I'll work my butt off to be at the top of that list. Better for the community to make fun of me than someone just enjoying themselves in solo. I've only seen this willingness to make light of other players in the ax community and discords. I say that with concern
@Astyrrean
7 күн бұрын
@@LetGoMyEggOh I mean you do you. But it's one thing to have fun in the game - which is great. And it's another to seek public recognition, for something that really doesn't deserve any (IMO).
@leeebbrell9
7 күн бұрын
I am hoping they make npc harder, especially if your combat rank is high dangerous or harder is elite 2 or 3 etc, and make visiting another power dangerous
@AtlasRandGaming
7 күн бұрын
@@leeebbrell9 totally in support of npcs all the way to elite 5
@___Snake___
7 күн бұрын
If they make the NPC's to hard, most of Cmdrs who play in Solo (which is about 90%) will complain its to difficult and won't want to play the new PP 2.0, game should be named Elite Solo really certainly not dangerous
@AtlasRandGaming
7 күн бұрын
@@___Snake___ no. They just need to add new levels. Low mid and high should remain just add a few new levels.
@___Snake___
7 күн бұрын
@AtlasRandGaming No, you're just saying what you want PP to be. People are already moaning about tough NPC and moaning they won't play it, PP2 should be open anyway
@AtlasRandGaming
7 күн бұрын
@@___Snake___ no one is saying NPCs are tough mate. I walk new players through a good start in the game every single day. NPCs is not in the top 10 list of what they don’t like. The hard to find info, the complex controls, the station stores that don’t carry stuff they should or a help system that itself needs a help system all are more complained about way more.
@Roblstar
7 күн бұрын
I hope that PP 2.0 will be a major change? However, I am concerned that Frontier may try to force player minor factions into picking a power? Many player minor factions do not give a damn about powerplay, & do not want to... I am concerned that Frontier may introduce mechanics that will put PMF's in a weaker position if they choose to stay unpledged? The faction I support is spread through several different powers areas of space. If we are forced to choose a side due to new mechanics? Then the other powers who's space we share, could become instant enemies? Cheers
@hibiki54
7 күн бұрын
I'm still waiting for a Frontier Unlocked to know how individual aspects of PP2.0 work. I understand the grand scheme of things and but they never spoke about what an individual player can do to contribute to their faction and how they gain XP for ranking up. And also what benefits you get for each rank compared to PP1.0.
@azog23
7 күн бұрын
It's not controversial to say FDev are hyping PP2.0. It's not as though PP1.0 is popular so how can they think that people will suddenly decide to play powerplay just because there's some cosmetic changes in stations. The only way it'd be worth bothering to play PP is if there's some new modules.
@chrismcgourty1756
7 күн бұрын
I dunno, I've had no reason to log on since shin dez, three days of fun. Three days of meaning, as a whole community. Back to the same old oooh shiny. Base building, it'll fizzle out before January. PP, meh, there's no reason for the community. That is all the goid war gave, spire pay out was good but it wasn't the pay out. It was a sense of community. Put a titan at shin dez, six months of blasting to defend it, would do a ton more for this game through engagement than PP ever will. Where the titans went, there wasn't any risk therefore less engagement. Put shin dez at risk for six months, watch even new players flock on word of mouth, even the decimated console players would buy into that.
@DvdV1337
7 күн бұрын
Im not even looking forward to it. And i dont have any use for the modules. They might surprise me tho. We'll see
@smoothcannibal5371
7 күн бұрын
Directly from the Q&A on the site, it says the order of modules given out is different for each power. I'm just guessing here, but I'd bet the first module given with each power is probably the same one you already get. So unless you can get the modules quicker than 4 weeks, this won't discourage module shopping/power hopping. Especially with having to potentially grind through several modules that aren't worth the time or effort to unlock.
@prisonerofthehighway1059
6 күн бұрын
It should unless they’re just wildly impatient. Sticking with one power will permanently unlock all modules and give you access to the high tier loyalty rewards and you never have to worry about PP ever again. The only reason I can see not to just stick to one power is we don’t know how aggressive power security forces will be in the new update. If you’re try to grind Imperial or Fed rank while being pledged to the opposition faction it might be an issue.
@enrogae
7 күн бұрын
I hope that you're wrong, but i worry that you're right. We'll see soon, either way.
@cmdrHeliaxx
7 күн бұрын
Well, I guess there will be at least 1 new module (as there will be a new power)
@cmdrHeliaxx
7 күн бұрын
But yea, I see it generally about the same. Good impovements I guess, but not making it open only kinda makes it all about the same and I dont think it will make me any more interested in that part of the game. It was an interesting chose of gameplay loop to put resources into. Not the worst one and Im sure some ppl will enjoy it, but personally I'd like if they kinda adressed some of the game's jankyness still, do a little rebalance (and possibly even improvements) of the currently secondary gameplay loops like Piracy, search and rescue, scavenging and so on. I think the fact that they're not really worth doing for anything but the experience alone kinda makes most ppl not even try it and then they just go cry on reddit with how shallow the game is lol.
@viniciusvianna5738
7 күн бұрын
I also get the feeling they might monetize it in a bad way, both PP 2.0 and Base Building. Hope i'm wrong.
@AtlasRandGaming
7 күн бұрын
What you think the best dressed is not a fair category for winning territory? 😎
@gubernator46
6 күн бұрын
I fully agree!!!
@raghav1026
7 күн бұрын
"Not at launch" is Fdev for "Never". It doesn't even need to be open only, just make actions in open count much more than solo or PG and that's still fine imo. But leaving that part as it is is the biggest mistake they could make. I hope you're wrong, especially because of all the awesome stuff they did this year, but with the last frontier stream before PP2.0 just having a Q&A and not anything more, things are quite concerning.
@papabrou
6 күн бұрын
Completely Agree, as a mostly solo player, I'd still want to be able to engage with PP2.0 but considering it's mostly a PVP feature, they should at least encourage to play in open, Maybe just a 25% xp boost in open or something like that would be enough to get people into open more and the cry babies solo players can still enjoy it in solo.
@exoplanet2013
7 күн бұрын
I agree with you Cmdr. o7z
@ArcticSweets
7 күн бұрын
i rerally hope they dont "fix" the double bonds.
@TheCGA
3 күн бұрын
Double bonds you say?
@Neo-vz8nh
7 күн бұрын
They adding some good Quality of Life features which is good, but otherwise zero content. If you wasn't intersted in Power Play so far, I doubt you will be now so on.
@Toastar1337
7 күн бұрын
I am lol. The only change to bring me in was to unlock everything within one power.
@AnotherOne-Retro-Paladin
7 күн бұрын
We know nothing about the new content.
@Neo-vz8nh
7 күн бұрын
@@AnotherOne-Retro-Paladin Yea because probably won't be any new content. Let's hope I am wrong, but come on, we know FDev better
@stevenboughner7255
6 күн бұрын
I agree FDEV is overstating the update. I do however believe that you should be able to play PP in solo But it shouldn't count in open. your solo save is your save. This would also work in private group. As far as leaderboards, have a different leaderboard for all 3 modes. You could play in private group and let anyone play.Yes that's a personal choice. I get tired of playing in open just to get ganked win I have nothing of value on board. Or is this Eve Online where I expect this.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
Nobody is saying to take solo or pg modes away from you. The point we are making here is that a game mode that is specifically designed for players to compete, should, you know, actually make players interact, rather than providing an out. This is specific for Powerplay. If you want to run passenger missions, then by all means, go ahead and do it on your own. But if you’re going to “take a side” and fight for a power competitively, well then I don’t think you should be able to do so hidden away. It completely sinks the Powerplay experience and keeps it as meaningless as it presently is.
@stevenboughner7255
9 сағат бұрын
@@Astyrrean All I was trying to say is Keep solo play solo. That play should not effect Open. It could be that playing in open is affecting ny solo game. Works both ways separate them.
@boochacka4966
7 күн бұрын
PVE MODE make us immune to other players everyone would be able to make friends
@AtlasRandGaming
7 күн бұрын
@@boochacka4966 lol. Nice one!
@kevp8321
7 күн бұрын
Or enemies
@wr0ngel
7 күн бұрын
Yep. PvP flag, turn on if you wanna PvP, off if you don't.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
Nobody is saying to take solo or pg modes away from you. The point we are making here is that a game mode that is specifically designed for players to compete, should, you know, actually make players interact, rather than providing an out. This is specific for Powerplay. If you want to run passenger missions, then by all means, go ahead and do it on your own. But if you’re going to “take a side” and fight for a power competitively, well then I don’t think you should be able to do so hidden away. It completely sinks the Powerplay experience and keeps it as meaningless as it presently is.
@kevp8321
5 күн бұрын
@Astyrrean i think the non pvp people would just not partake.
@jaheba
7 күн бұрын
He is just right about every point...
@the4thj
7 күн бұрын
I couldn’t agree more; no flack here! It’s clear to me that Elite Dangerous needs a major overhaul in the form of an Odyssey-style update, not just another reskin. Like I’ve said before, if they truly pushed the envelope and brought in the content this game deserves, I would pay for it without hesitation. There are other space sims out there that have taken big leaps in content, and Elite is getting left behind. It’s time to move beyond the status quo. Look at the stations in-game; what’s the point of those beautifully lit windows if we can’t walk around, explore, or interact with anything? It reminds me of those cheap toys I had as a kid; buildings with fake stickers and lights behind them, pretending to be real but completely hollow. Where’s the substance behind those visuals? Let us walk around those stations, explore, and interact with this incredible universe Frontier has built. Even inside our ships; why can’t we move around a bit more? I’ve played games like Star Citizen and Starship Simulator, where you can roam freely around your ship, and the immersion level is on another planet compared to Elite. That’s the kind of depth we need. Not just flying from point A to point B, but living and breathing in the world we’ve been invested in for so long. The Fleet Carrier is another missed opportunity. It’s just more empty visuals; more of those window stickers with lights shining out, but no real purpose or interaction behind them. Where’s the gameplay? Carriers should feel like living, breathing extensions of our efforts, not just glorified parking spots with hollow spaces. And then there’s the mystery of Raxxla; how long are we going to keep chasing ghosts with no real content payoff? The Guardian lore? Barely touched. There’s so much potential for real, in-depth storylines and discoveries. Imagine actually finding the Guardian homeworld or stumbling on a long-hidden mystery that requires more than just reading Galnet or piecing together bits of lore from decades past. We need tangible content, not just breadcrumbs leading us to nowhere. Even the basics like mining could be reimagined; why not mining on foot or a miner SRV? We only have two SRVs in-game-why not a new one by now? This isn’t a good business model. Games thrived under COVID, and yet Frontier seems to be stagnating. I don’t understand. Give us a reason to set foot on planets beyond just exobiology scans. We’ve been asking for more immersive gameplay for years, and yet, the most innovative ideas seem to get dismissed or delayed indefinitely. I’ve been vocal on the forums, and it’s frustrating when it feels like there’s always someone ready to shoot down ideas; maybe even a developer in disguise; just to block real progress. And that’s where voices like yours, CMDR Mechan, become so important. You have the platform and reputation to amplify what the community is asking for, and that matters. We need leaders willing to push for innovation in Elite, not just settle for the same old, same old. Your resonance with the community doesn’t go unnoticed; the little guys like me appreciate it. Thank you for standing up for what this game could be, and I’ll be right there with you pushing for these changes to bring Elite back to life. Let’s make sure the developers hear us and understand; we’re not just asking for more. We’re asking for content that makes this universe feel alive again. o7, Commander, and thank you. Engineers always work out problems!
@a8to
6 күн бұрын
Well, i agree with every word said except for the final part. New ships are great yes, but they dont change the game in any meaningfull way. Yhargoid content is great but its an endgame content. However everything between start and endgame kinda bad. Engineering, balance, combat passanger missions and missions in general are not rewarding. I think that thos game needs to make hull builds viable not only for ax. Some engineering upgrades are strait forvard pointless. Also i would suggest remove the relog material grind and make materials more focused on missions of different type it would add such needed diveraity to material grind and would add meaning to existance of missions in the first place. And many more problems wich will remain unsolved if they will continue focusing on new ships(wich solves nothing) as well as endgame ax content
@beowulfschmidt6031
Күн бұрын
Several partners played the new Power Play, and it's far more interesting to me than the current one.
@tonogomez2522
7 күн бұрын
The assumption that base building is for sure coming remembers me of how sure we were about ship interiors coming with Odyssey. I reckon that something like base building would be properly announced and hyped by Fdev. The fact that they choose to focus on promoting Powerplay 2.0 and that they don´t adress the players especulations indicates to me that there is nothing else worth mention in the update. And again we are waiting for something that was not announced for this update. By the way, the Xeno community have at this moment the power over the game if you should decide to take it. If you were to boicot the war (by not killing a thargoid mothership, not defendimg Shinrarta Dezra, etc) you´ll hold Fdev hostage cause the timeline will come to a stop. It´s not like Shinrarta was in any danger or that the thargoid would conquer the Bubble. That content does not exist. So if you go on strike the game stalls.
@deevy7746
7 күн бұрын
DoA
@jomorim
7 күн бұрын
Players that play in solo actually paid for the game, justy like everyone else. Why should we be deprived of game content? I have no interest whatsoever in any sort of online gameplay. I work online all day, my leisure time with the PC is best enjoyed alone.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
Nobody is saying to take solo or pg modes away from you. The point we are making here is that a game mode that is specifically designed for players to compete, should, you know, actually make players interact, rather than providing an out. This is specific for Powerplay. If you want to run passenger missions, then by all means, go ahead and do it on your own. But if you’re going to “take a side” and fight for a power competitively, well then I don’t think you should be able to do so hidden away. It completely sinks the Powerplay experience and keeps it as meaningless as it presently is.
@jomorim
5 күн бұрын
@@Astyrrean So, gatekeeping game loops from solo players. The point is, the publisher promised similar content whether you play solo or online. I'm perfectly fine with progress from solo players not counting for BGS (we're in it for the modules anyway), but the game loop should be there.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
@@jomorim Gatekeeping what is specifically designed as competitive PvP content from solo players? Yes, sir. This is meant to be PvP content. Might as well ask to add “invulnerable mode” to CQC. Or do you want a solo mode for CQC too? And mind you, I am not a fan PvP at all. But what I like even less, is crappy hybrids that make no sense for either PvE nor PvP. I could care less if the mechanics are available in solo as well. But no progress or advancement done while hidden away and in “god mode” should count towards global statistics.
@jomorim
5 күн бұрын
@@Astyrrean So, solo players can't have the modules, is that it? That on top of all this thargoid nonsense, but I digress. In the end, this is all on Frontier, which should make up their minds. Either do a full online game and lose customers to Egosoft, or create a full offline experience separated from the online servers.
@andy-incognito
14 сағат бұрын
@@Astyrrean What you mean is allow ganking players.
@DUEL.FATALIS
7 күн бұрын
One new power might mean a new power play module. Not sure if they already talked about it.
@B3n3f1t
5 күн бұрын
Liste up pls! Not everyone wants to play in open. I do play in open but I get it if some people just want to relax and fight some NPCs and contribute in solo. If you think that’s a reason to make fun of someone you’re taking the game out of the game. It’s a game pls have fun this community is taking way too much to serious. I’m not even welcomed to do passenger missions in my own squadron sector because „it’s so fragile“ so if I want to relax and just have some mindless fun I have to leave everything behind and do that in an area far away. You’re opinion is your opinion and you’re entitled to that but think in a bigger picture before making statements so ridiculous like making fun of someone. Not everyone plays this game competitively.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
Thing is, I very much do think in the bigger picture. Nobody is saying to take solo or pg modes away from you. The point we are making here is that a game mode that is specifically designed for players to compete, should, you know, actually make players interact, rather than providing an out. This is specific for Powerplay. If you want to run passenger missions, then by all means, go ahead and do it on your own. But if you’re going to “take a side” and fight for a power competitively, well then I don’t think you should be able to do so hidden away. It completely sinks the Powerplay experience and keeps it as meaningless as it presently is.
@andreyshpansky5275
4 күн бұрын
@@Astyrrean "I very much do think in the bigger picture"? Then why would we ignore other side of bigger picture: If PP2.0 is just re-shape of BGS (which is most likely it is), then it is just one-for-all in ED, it is never instantiated. I believe they technically at the moment can't prevent Players in PG and Solo from affecting whatever version of PP. Also, another point: what is a current "tick" of BGS? A week? A day? Something tells me, that Players in Open definitely expecting to see results of their PvP sessions affecting PP x.0 in a real time manner, not in a week, day or an hour.
@falcon911gamer8
19 сағат бұрын
Love how this guy is getting pissy with PP 2.0 becuase once the thargoid wars come to an end. He wil not have any more reason to make more AX videos for clicks. Maybe the next video should be on how screwed up the BGS is in it's current form. Maybe then FDEV will start to listen.
@brokenweltall
3 күн бұрын
You're starting to sound like Yamiks.
@Astyrrean
3 күн бұрын
Yamiks is negative pretty much all the time. Buur is positive pretty much all the time. I try to straddle things and call out the good when there’s good, and bad when there’s bad. If that means half of the time people will tell me I sound like Buur, and half of the time I sound like Yamiks, well then so be it I guess. :)
@sean2939
6 күн бұрын
Your sounding like a bit of a sad & bitter old gamer these days Mechan.
@Astyrrean
6 күн бұрын
I mean I love the game and I love SOME of the things they did with it.This one though ... is just lame. Call me sad & bitter if you will for speaking my mind, but it is what it is ... As to the "old gamer" part, well, that's factually accurate!
@Emphatic83
7 күн бұрын
New Power, new faction leaders, new shift in political leadership, expansion of reach and scope of the powers, removal of some barriers and limits to contributions, removal of pointless currency system and rewarding actual gameplay. none of which is possible in 1.0 not a reskin its a revamp with many QoL changes and increasing access. You may need a vacation from thargoids cause you are indeed losing it, these are good changes and you are shitting on them because people are excited? weak man very weak.
@Astyrrean
5 күн бұрын
In putting out a controversial opinion one has to be open to criticism. So I accept your criticism. I do disagree with it however. There are some minor changes, and they are indeed good changes, but they fail completely at fixing the key issues with Powerplay. Which, in my opinion, mean that PP2 will suck almost completely as much (just a little bit less) than PP1. That’s the point I am making. Time will prove if I am right or wrong, and as others have pointed out we don’t know everything at this stage. I will be the first and happiest person to be proven wrong. But if I am not wrong, FDEV would be truly best served by stopping the hype train, not feeding it - hence this video.
@ricobrzenska14
3 күн бұрын
Also you make things sounds bad and pre judge... Wait and we will see
@andy-incognito
14 сағат бұрын
So you think everyone that plays in private lobbies are lame? Shouldn’t be proud of the achievements? I am part of a big group we are extremely proud of our team players. You think you are right that’s the funny part.
@Astyrrean
14 сағат бұрын
Everyone who plays the competitive online part of a game in private lobbies is lame. Here, I said it. Play every other part in solo, I don’t care. But playing the one part that is meant for players to fight and move borders, hidden away in solo or PG is lame. And if anyone who plays that way has the gall to be proud of topping a leaderboard for that game mode, they should thoroughly be clowned / made fun of.
@andy-incognito
14 сағат бұрын
@@Astyrrean Liking your own reply says all I need to know. Pathetic!
@leeebbrell9
7 күн бұрын
And it should be open open i think, solo and pg should contribute less or nothing
@AtlasRandGaming
7 күн бұрын
@@leeebbrell9 so you want to lock out 95% of players? Ya ok
Пікірлер: 124