So, in the game Undertale, there is a family of ghosts. One ghost, Napstablook, is worried they are going to be left alone, since the other ghost cousins left to become corporeal and find solid bodies to live in. The other ghost, who's name we don't know, but find their diaries, resigns themselves to stay put, since they felt they'd never find the body they'd always dreamed of. Eventually, they befriend a scientist, Alphys, who builds a robot body for this ghost. The last diary entry states, "Sorry, Blooky. My dreams can't wait for anyone." This is how we learn the creation of the robot TV show host, Mettaton, who is now going by he/him pronouns. It's such a fun game with a lot of LGBTQ+ representation.
@francisbakininthekitchen2441
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I didnt know napstablooks full story :(
@Gallant_Silver
3 жыл бұрын
@@francisbakininthekitchen2441 There's an item you can buy from Bratty and Catty called, "Mystery Key". If you use it in your inventory, it unlocks the red house next to Napstablook's house. I also think this is why Napstablook was coming over to say hi while you're fighting the Mad Dummy. The Mad Dummy, and the Training Dummy from the Ruins both had ghost cousins in them.
@Jackieeeisvibing
3 жыл бұрын
Omg pls I forgot about blooky that makes me sad😔
@revlo8483
3 жыл бұрын
But what does that have to do with the video
@Gallant_Silver
3 жыл бұрын
@@revlo8483 The video is about robots, and at the end, Cheyenne mentions trans allegories in some of the movies/shows. I wanted to talk about my favorite trans robot character.
@botanicalitus4194
3 жыл бұрын
Although I'm glad that that the trope has evolved from being about objectifying and shaming women to being a means to explore misogyny, I still feel like the way fembots are written and treated in stories is a bit lacking. The stories still kind of fetishize their suffering and dont treat their oppression as seriously or as alarmingly as they should. But hopefully it'll continue to improve in the future.
@loverrlee
3 жыл бұрын
I think West World really did an amazing job making you have sympathy for them. Some of the early scenes with Delores are horrifying and haunting and you can really understand her motivation for revolution because of the abuse she’s endured.
@johnross2924
Жыл бұрын
🙄
@wandelgartking5446
Жыл бұрын
Oh no!
@mishterkhalid3117
6 ай бұрын
as someone who doesn't live in north america, its really eye opening to see how many new problems people can create out of thin air after seeing people these days are complaining about a fucking robot that doesnt exist. talk about first world problem
@kaiser_landschaft7941
2 ай бұрын
Is your misogyny in your mental room?
@jacquelinealbin7712
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: the word "robot" comes from the Czech word "robota" which means "slave" or "forced labor" A friend of mine said that if we ever reach "The Singularity" where we get fully autonomous, self-aware AI, the term "robot" will be considered offensive towards androids and AIs because of that etymology
@hive2117
3 жыл бұрын
robota doesn't mean slave. it means forced labour. robotnik is labourer or worker.
@Brother-Martell
3 жыл бұрын
@@hive2117 is forced labour not slavery?
@hive2117
3 жыл бұрын
@@Brother-Martell slave is the person who does the labour for slavery and that is the word the original comment mentions. im pretty sure they have a different word for slavery itself though.
@kant.68
3 жыл бұрын
I'm Russian Robota means "job"
@timogul
3 жыл бұрын
There's an entire monologue in an Avengers annual that came out a couple weeks back, in which a "synthetic person" character considers the various terms for such s being and why each is both good and bad in various ways.
@KawaiiLollypop
3 жыл бұрын
I re-watched My Life as a Teenage Robot a few years ago for nostalgia, and something I appreciated, especially as an adult fan, was how the titular robot, Jenny, was written. While Jenny had feminine characteristics/interests, and would sometimes bend herself backwards for human approval (she was also especially naïve in the early first season, as well as having some pretty obvious issues with her body and appearance), she had the free-will and agency to make her own decisions, on top of being tomboyish, a bit of a spitfire, and even a little morally nuanced at times. Whenever certain characters did take advantage of Jenny's trust or kindness and treated her like a tool to serve in their own ulterior motives, it was always framed by the narrative as something unambiguously awful. But more relevant to this essay and its themes of fembots, surrounding the male fantasy and serving outdated gender norms: There is an episode where Jenny has a synthetic human skinsuit made for her in order to "fit in" with her human peers, but while the skinsuit makes her conventionally attractive, it gains a symbiote-like sentience, attempting to manipulate Jenny and pressure her into performing hyper-femininity 24/7 for the approval of others, especially for human men. But Jenny resists when it interferes with her ability to protect others, and the episode ends with her destroying the skinsuit, accepting herself exactly as the robot she is, even when some humans give vocal disapproval of her. She is not an object of a male fantasy, nor is she a monster for refusing to play into that role. She is a person, a teenage girl coming to terms with and taking control her own gender expression and identity. Even when Jenny has been hurt and othered by the human race, including some people she looks up to or trusts, she still chooses to be kind and continues to fulfill her duties as a superhero. She also takes an active role in trying to better the lives of not just humans, but also other robots, even though most of them in canon do not share her level of sentience. And this isn't simply because of her programming, nor because she's too naïve to know better; but because she is an inherently good person who knows it's the right thing to do. Sorry, I didn't mean to derail, but I've just always found Jenny to be a fun subversion of the typical Fembot tropes and themes. Great video, btw!
@merrittanimation7721
3 жыл бұрын
Jenny is great.
@amberwingtundrawing776
3 жыл бұрын
Thats a great analysis! I was thinking about the show while watching the video, its honestly one of the only shows I've seen handle robot personhood really well, especially as a show for a younger audience
@bobi200samatar6
2 жыл бұрын
MLAATR gets better each time I revisit it.
@kittykittybangbang9367
2 жыл бұрын
My Life as a Teenage Robot is such a great cartoon. It's a shame that Nick treated it horribly.
@bobi200samatar6
2 жыл бұрын
@@kittykittybangbang9367 Nickelodeon treats every property it owns terribly.
@sophiatalksmusic3588
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone find it sort of creepy how real-life AI is always presented as feminine? Apple's "Siri," Amazon's "Alexa," Microsoft's "Cortana," etc. There's an option with some of these to give them male voices, but the default is still feminine. EDIT: Robots are such an interesting trope because there are so many different ways you can read them. As you talked about here, they can be used in stories about race and gender, but robot stories can also be used to reflect society's view of neurodivergent or lower-class people, as robots are often shown as having a linear and analytical way of thinking, or are used to do menial labour. Essentially, robots are often used to represent an "other," and due to not being entirely "human," the author can make them seem as sympathetic or as unsympathetic as they want them to be, which is pretty messed up- what does that say about people who are othered? Pop Culture Detective also has a really interesting video on robots and the slavery allegory, which centers mainly on the Star Wars franchise.
@dinodino5602
3 жыл бұрын
+++
@felix-xd4mx
3 жыл бұрын
i think that stems from how service industry workers are female by default as well, like maids, waitresses, stewardess, receptionists, etc. there was survey that reveals that females are more comfortable with fellow females and males are more comfortable with females too. so a woman is seen as more comforting. but it is icky that it has mutated into 'a woman is for servicing you' kind of mindset that a lot of men have 🤮
@nflores328
3 жыл бұрын
@@felix-xd4mx Confirming what you said, is probably by design made to appeal the most people. There's a gender bias when trusting a stranger, i know there's a study somewhere. The most trustable being is a young woman as there's an innate association our brain makes: It's theorized maybe cause we trust motherhood, maybe we trust beauty; but regardless it's a biass... So as a developer, setting your AI assistant with a male voice is already giving you a small disadvantage, which of course you wouldn't want to...
@joerandm777
3 жыл бұрын
@@felix-xd4mx agree, I was about to say the same thing about how women are viewed as more caring/comforting than men in general, and that's probably the reason why. I honestly prefer working with women/other feminine folks as I feel more comfortable around them.
@Randomdudefromtheinternet
3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that there's a research about how female voices are more pleasant to the ear (for like... everyone) (Which is BS because there are definitely male voices that make some doubt of their sexuality, smooth as silk)
@renatabravo5474
3 жыл бұрын
I never really paid attention to how fucked up pixel perfect and Chobits was a child, but rewatching them now, I can clearly see how weird they were, at least to be direct towards children.
@goldcherries
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Chobits was made for children though. I think it was made more for teenage boys.
@renatabravo5474
3 жыл бұрын
@@goldcherries Yep, fair enough haha
@essneyallen6777
3 жыл бұрын
A (male) friend of mine lent me Chobits intensely convinced that I would loooooove it. He was very surprised. I was fuming at the ending, I thought it was stupid and ridiculous and did not actually address any of the issues the narrative had opened up (and I didn't even recognize the slavery coding/allegory! ... I was young and uneducated) . But I guess he thought "the male character renounces sex" was the peak of feminism, so I, clearly a sex hating feminist, would hail it as a masterpiece. I wish I had known "asexuality" was a thing, because I would have been way better equipped to deal with this bs.
@admiralkipper4540
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not weird it’s just a cute slice of life show about a guy and his robot girlfriend
@admiralkipper4540
3 жыл бұрын
@@essneyallen6777 Jesus Christ it’s not that deep
@semi_enigma
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's been mentioned but In Chobits there are many Persocoms that are male and belong to women in the manga. They were mostly in the background. One of the issues in the manga is that everyone, men and women prefered their PCs to real people. Your points are awesome tho. Just wanted to point that out lol. Also, you are right about the anime having almost no Dudebots.
@susanwjoh0re735
Жыл бұрын
because it is for men sweettie. the manga was written and drawn for men. not everything is about you.
@susanwjoh0re735
Жыл бұрын
@@nortmellypill 100%. go make your own.
@peachesandcream22
Жыл бұрын
@@susanwjoh0re735And I'll just give examples of shounens where female characters are treated well and even take important roles in plot: JoJo's Bizarre Adventures, Fullmetal Alchemist, Rubaki (Slayers), Ryounin Kenshi, Gintama, Jujutsu Kaisen etc. It's not that hard to treat women well even in for-male series, dude
@susanwjoh0re735
Жыл бұрын
one more time i tell you. keep your woke bs to yourself. stop telling japan how to do their own thing. stop it. it's none of your business. if you do not like it go make your own or dont watch it at all.@@peachesandcream22
@donnacollins402
3 жыл бұрын
Even though she's not technically a fembot Pearl from Steven Universe is also a beautifully written deconstruction of a perfect fembot servant
@felipe21279
3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment and i'm so glad to find it. Pearl's arc as a fembot slave allegory is just perfect. The issue i had with the "Rose is Pink Diamond" thing for a while was that at the end, Pearl was still doing what her Diamond told her to do, making her story of liberation kind of frustrating and hypocritical. But then came SU Future and that beautiful episode where both she and Pink Pearl finally stop making excuses for Pink Diamond's flaws and the very bad things she done and finally set themselves free.
@francisbakininthekitchen2441
3 жыл бұрын
So interesting that men always seem to think its modern women that are the problem, not themselves. They seek to create the "perfect woman", but do they ever look at what traits those women possess, and how that really reflects on themself? I think a lot of therapy is needed.
@kiriki4558
3 жыл бұрын
They need to be called out and stop being given the reason and the centre of everything more than therapy.
@carlamolina695
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, because the reason that modern women seems like a problem os because she is free, and their ideal women looks and acts nothings like a woman
@Aster_Risk
3 жыл бұрын
@@carlamolina695 They don't want women to be people.
@Mario_Angel_Medina
3 жыл бұрын
That's why Caleb is punished at the end of the film Ex Machina. Even after he started seeing Ava as a person and not a machine he never even considered that she may have any kind of desiree or ambition of her own, and that sympathy without empathy was his doom (and also is the problem with robots as metaphors, people have a "rational" justification to not see them as equals to human and that shields the audience to do a selfreflecting look at their own bias, instead they say "I would never treat a real woman like I treat my appliances, women are human beings and machines are not")
@garbledsand-which2321
3 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@ad0xa
3 жыл бұрын
Chobits kinda fucked up my idea of love and being a "girl" btw XD watching it as a 14 year old. I was already brainwashed by media but I think chobits really put that last punch in to my mind all that toxic shit we love sooo much. I still have some weird nostalgia for it tho.
@admiralkipper4540
3 жыл бұрын
How the fuck did Chobits brainwash you it’s just a cute show about a dude who is in love with a robot
@ad0xa
3 жыл бұрын
@@admiralkipper4540 I dunnu if you ever watched it... but the undertones of what a perfect girl should be. Women's roles in general. Maybe watch it and think about it? ^_^~ desu neeee~
@admiralkipper4540
3 жыл бұрын
@@ad0xa it sounds like your interpreting a message in a cute romance anime that the creators never even thought about let alone intended
@FueyChan
3 жыл бұрын
@@admiralkipper4540 i think you’re right that it was meant to be a romance, however chi acts like a child and is seriously infantilized while also being portrayed in a sexual way (like her turn-on button being where it is and the focus on her different body parts) which is very concerning. also there’s a part in the series where one guy has a bunch of female robots and it’s just??? super odd to have a harem with submissive robots with no autonomy. sadly, the manga is very much influenced by a male gaze.
@bobbitworm8184
3 жыл бұрын
@@admiralkipper4540 Regardless of a creators intentions, media can and will be interpreted in all kinds of ways. This is especially true of tropes or subjects that inherently bring a lot of baggage with them, and subservient robots (especially those primarily modelled to appear female & serve men) is certainly one of those tropes. You can’t really escape the questions that come with that kind of world set-up, and if a creator refuses to deliberately address any of them then people are just going to connect the dots themselves.
@MilaBelen
3 жыл бұрын
Cheyenne, how dedicated you are in your research, analysis and videos overall is a GEM and still amazes me and will continue to do. I always learn new films/new series/new writers/new ANYTHING with you. You've got so much knowledge and it's brilliant to say the least. As a communication lover I'd love to have your skills. Have you studied something related to research or communication? 💕 ('Pixeled perfect' felt weird to me as a kid and didn't know why, now as an adult it's sad to think about how INCREDIBLY misoginystic it was)
@storybooksystem
3 жыл бұрын
So stoked to watch this, but the sentence "born sexy yesterday" does make me want to perish quickly.
@jacquelinealbin7712
3 жыл бұрын
Its a trope thats been talked about for a while, Pop Culture Detective did a great video on it. Still pretty fuckt tho
@susanwjoh0re735
Жыл бұрын
please do.
@beethovensfidelio
4 ай бұрын
Why do you hate the phrase “Born Sexy Yesterday”?
@storybooksystem
4 ай бұрын
@@beethovensfidelio this comment is two years old, hell if i remember.
@giasas
3 жыл бұрын
It's really interesting how the concept of a fembot has evolved over time.. I'm very glad it's gotten much less misogynistic lol
@giasas
3 жыл бұрын
@The Golden Sphere Very weird that you're assuming I'm a lesbian lol.. Can you explain to me how men calling android women who are obedient and submissive "the perfect women" is not misogynistic?
@giasas
3 жыл бұрын
@The Golden Sphere Damn you mad ?? 😂
@giasas
3 жыл бұрын
@The Golden Sphere Well, I'm glad you had fun arguing with the imaginary lesbian in your head. Maybe I'll meet her some day and we'll live happily ever after ! 🌈👩❤️💋👩💕
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
3 жыл бұрын
@The Golden Sphere you seem like the kinda guy who has been responsible for a comment chain that is over a hundred replies long. What video did you do it on?
@ingredi8409
3 жыл бұрын
@The Golden Sphere just go away no one wants you here
@edieb3666
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would feel to see a female enslaved robot who is Black. I guess I had implicitly assumed that female robot race and design reflected cultural beauty standards. But thinking about it now, as a director, it would be scary and challenging to enter a space of overlap between real history and male fantasy robot enslavement.
@anyakenovna
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can imagine that being some pretty dicey waters but it says a lot that having the mindless female robot sex slave kink shit was more important to them than telling stories with characters who aren't all white.
@sarahthomas8670
6 ай бұрын
Real
@jaredmcdaris7370
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the whole “Do sentient robots deserve rights” question has kinda been settled. For a while. Yes, they do. Yet people keep returning to this well. And the obvious racial parallels strike me as a bit disquieting, mostly because, ya know… white people didn’t invent black people. Black people already existed, and had their own various cultures and homes. And then they were kidnapped and enslaved. Likewise, men didn’t invent women. So I don’t really see how robots can be used as a meaningful allegory without being extremely paternalistic. And without those allegories, we’re just back at “Do sentient robots deserve rights?” Galatea was written when women-as-objects was a largely uncontroversial perspective. I guess, maybe, if there was an intelligent AI that already existed in its own world, then was taken out of that world and put into a robot body and enslaved, that might be a somewhat more respectful allegory. Except, of course, it’s still coming from the default understanding that the stand-in for women, people of color, trans people, or any other oppressed group, is fundamentally inhuman. Which is weird.
@GlizzyGoblin757
3 жыл бұрын
lmao everything is to do with racism or transgenders to you people
@banquetoftheleviathan1404
3 жыл бұрын
Sentient robots don’t exist so this is a silly statement to be making.
@timogul
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that media is seriously asking the question "do robots deserve rights" anymore, if they ever were. It's always pure allegory, it's asking the question "do all humans deserve rights," but through a lens that is not so overtly confrontational to preconceptions. It's designed to get in behind the viewer's preconceptions, so that they don't realize it until the message is already inside the house.
@yomamawanmadikku9094
3 жыл бұрын
Nah my property my choice
@utrix_1121
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hybrid_vigour Come back when you actually know what the fuck you’re talking about
@luiscortazar6291
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't think much of the fembots as being more than sexy machines, or wanting to gain sentience. But this is actually a very interesting discussion. Enslaved beautiful girls who are programmed to serve their master and keep human women from establishing their own agency, by making it so that they fear replacement. It's more terrifying than I gave it credit for.
@ollygaetheirnandez
3 жыл бұрын
I live for your video essays!! Since I started watching Westworld I've been waiting for some intelligent commentary that addresses all the underlying themes and issues within the show
@operaanimelover369
3 жыл бұрын
Coming from someone who grew up with Chobits and Pixel Perfect back in 2004 as a 12-year-old sixth-grader, these films might have been entertaining to me when I was a lad. However, speaking as a grown-up, I cannot help but cringe at how women are objectified to be the perfect life-like dolls for the male protagonists. Then again, female objectification is not just limited to these fembots, as ETA Hoffmann also wrote his story, The Sandman or Der Sandmann. In this story, there is the existence of the mechanical doll Olimpia who is created by Spallanzani, Nathanael's professor, and Clara who is Nathanael's human fiancée. Nathanael is utterly charmed by Olimpia, thanks to purchasing glasses by Coppola who is actually the villain Coppelius in disguise, but he is driven to sheer insanity by her otherworldly beauty and her eyes. All Olimpia could utter is "Ah. Ah" as if though people perceived her to have a speech impediment because Spallanzani was trying to pass her off as his daughter. Coppelius and Spallanzani have an argument, Coppelius destroys Olimpia, Nathanael is taken to the insane asylum, despite Clara and his friend Lothar trying to stop Nathanael, and Clara ends up becoming the wife of a kindly gentleman and the mother of two boys.
@ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш
3 жыл бұрын
I've read Hoffmanns Snadman thanks to your comment, and it was disturbing. Partially bc it was weitten 2 centuries ago and partially bc of it's portrayal of fembot...
@operaanimelover369
3 жыл бұрын
@@ИмяФамилия-ф2д8ш I'm glad my comment also had you talking about Hoffmann's Sandman. I knew about this story through one of my most favorite operas of all time, Jacques Offenbach's Les Contes d'Hoffmann, specifically with Olympia's scene and how it ended.
@magickconchshell
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen someone critically analyze Chobits (or Pixel Perfect tbh) and I’m so interested to hear your thoughts. I grew up in the 90s watching anime and reading manga with my little cousin. She was maybe 7 or 8 when she got into Chobits, but I didn’t know anything about the story or characters. I just thought Chi had a cute design and never thought much of it. I had no idea how disturbing the content was until very recently. It’s incredibly unsettling how Chi (and other anime girls/women) are designed to be visually appealing to young girls and creepy men. It’s nothing new but… ugh. It’s hard to see that growing up and have it not leave an impression.
@cristalido3640
10 ай бұрын
It is unsettling to design appealing characters now? Are you for real? Calling men "creepy" because they enjoy the design of a cute girl it's fucking disgusting, if men like something cute, they're creepy, and if they dislike it, they're assholes...
@piotr004
6 ай бұрын
@@cristalido3640 Exactly. Especially when Chobits was made by Clamp, thus by WOMEN. These woke women in this channel hate not only men, but other women too (if they have different views).
@edenswhateverchannel
2 ай бұрын
@@piotr004 Like, as a person who liked Chobits, you are being very obtuse man. Did you not watch the video? There are more things that cause a character design to be weird besides just the design. As a creative, the way a character looks implies a lot apon the narrative and the themes, and the commentor clearly didn't have a issue with the design for the design, but the implications within the story.
@edenswhateverchannel
2 ай бұрын
@@cristalido3640 Oh it's you again, still pushing that narrative huh? Why do you click on clearly leftist breakdowns of tropes and stories if you are just going to push the "woke waman!!1!" Narrative? Like did you watch the video? There are very weird undertones to Chobits and her character design that makes it unsettling, because of the implications and themes of her story. That's coming from someone who liked Chobits too.
@cristalido3640
2 ай бұрын
@@edenswhateverchannel It's only weird towards you because you don't like it, i'm tired of men being portrayed in any negative way you can think of just because he likes and desires something cute.
@BellesView
3 жыл бұрын
It’s the fact it took Sam busting her head open for Roscoe to appreciate her 😒
@strayiggytv
2 жыл бұрын
Talking about the chobits style of AI and "fembots" you get to a very good point. A frequent refrain I hear among lonely men on the internet and 'incels' is that AI and robot sex dolls are going to fix the problem of male loneliness. Personally I think it will only make it worse. If we ever reach a point where robots are available for companionship they will have to be limited in some ways. I presented this conundrum to a person who was eager for this future and who thought that a "perfect robot girlfriend" would finally make him happy. "If the robot does not have free will then any "love" it shows you will be false. Created through programming and no better than an illusion. If the robot does have true free will then you will be a slave owner. The robot will also be free enough to choose not to love you and you will be back at square one." The man I said this too found it utterly enraging. He insisted that if it were convincing enough a robot would not need free will to show true affection. I countered by saying if it were that convincing it would once again look like slavery. He would then be dealing with not just am illusion of love but a ln illusion of enslavement as well. He exploded, called me some pretty derogatory names and left the discord server. This is something that worries me about the future of AI companionship ship. As a woman i am not afraid that AI will replace me. I am afraid of men's rage when they find out it cannot. I'm afraid of men's despair when they realize free will is necessary for true companionship with another being.
@kagetsuki23
Жыл бұрын
The solution is Matrix level VR games populated by sentients npc. Then, you create an avatar that look better than 24 year old Brad Pitt, and born from an AI family as rich as the Rothschild.
@renotv3860
9 ай бұрын
You're acting as if women are even capable of love. The divorce rate is 40-50% and women initiate 70-80% of divorces. You can say a robot wife's love is an illusion, but so is a real woman's, the difference is that one doesn't betray you.
@jackmiddleton2080
6 ай бұрын
I think people drastically underestimate how much they would value AI companions and synthetic matrix like experiences. People think that reality is what matters most, but that is not how things are trending.
@strayiggytv
6 ай бұрын
@@jackmiddleton2080 it's only trending like that due to the novelty of it. When everyone has access to it and it becomes everyday then it will become no more entranceing than any other tech we have at hand. Nobody is opineing about the magic of cellphones anymore and people have largely fallen out of love with the internet at large. If you look at the romanticised excited way people spoke about the web in the 90s and compare it to now you can easily see the trend. As robots and AI become mundane and corporate the appeal of them as companions will follow suit. You'll have your AI girlfriend and she'll be just the same as everyone else's. A passing fancy with a subscription service fee.
@KossolaxtheForesworn
Ай бұрын
I do understand where he is coming from but if he was to buy a robot and pressed the "activate free will" button and the robot left, that would definitely just mean he isnt someone even a robot would have a relationship if the robot remembers his actions in the test phase. which I think is what he fears the most. usually incels externalize their issues to be fault of others but obviously it is their fault since they are generally weird and sometimes even genuinely bad people, with way too high egos and expectations. even if they found a relationship with a real person, it doesnt automatically fix them like a light switch because they have real problems they should talk about with a therapist. so from that perspective a robot wouldnt solve his issues what so ever. though if the issue is mere loneliness and he was to buy a robot and treat it like a person should in a relationship and he was to press this button, then I dont see why the robot would walk away. a lack of confidence, low self-esteem and social anxiety maybe the real issues that disappear with an automated companion, and if this companion was to become self-aware, the issues wouldnt be there anymore and the robot wouldnt be walking away since nothing bad has happened and he is not a bad person.
@zkme2734
3 жыл бұрын
really funny how "red pill" was a metaphor for hormones when on the internet it has a whole different meaning
@MEOWMIX3DS
3 жыл бұрын
sussy
@bobbitworm8184
3 жыл бұрын
It’s even funnier when you know that back when the matrix was first made, oestrogen came as little red pills instead of blue. So all those incel types going on about how they “took the red pill” are unknowingly saying they’re making themselves more feminine (ofc there’s nothing wrong with that, I just find it ironic considering how much they hate women & anything remotely feminine lol). Still tho, doesn’t surprise me that they never acknowledge it, since they’ve got their heads so far up their asses they might as well be living in a whole separate reality.
@fenrisvermundr2516
2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't though. The redpill is just a program that helps locate the person's pod, thus acceptance of the truth. The Blue Pill is a reset program, reverting the person to a state where they aren't aware the Matrix is a simulation. Besides. They only even confirmed that cause people were theorizing about it.
@benjamintillema3572
3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if you've seen Buffy the Vampire Slayer and how it handled the subject of "fembots". It's an interesting example of pop culture that's trying to pass off as feminist while still being deeply problematic (much like its creator, Joss Whedon). Essentially the fembots are used in nearly every way you described (as "perfect" women, sex objects, fantasies, replacements, etc.) and there are moments where you are supposed to sympathize with them... but usually only just as they're going to die, besides that it's played for laughs. Then there's Whedon's later project, Dollhouse, and oh boy, is THAT a can of worms.
@bean8672
3 жыл бұрын
What's hilarious about anime is that due to same face syndrome really hot personocoms look identical to the real women. With the exception of the personocoms having more interesting hair and kawaii ear things.
@kaitlynboisvert8150
3 жыл бұрын
I TOTALLY had forgotten about Chobits! It almost feels like a fever dream. I remember one thing I didn't like was that the persocomes had switches between their legs that could erase and restart them if activated. Just felt super weird and low key gross. But I remember one thing I loved was the storyline of the neighbor writing that magazine about finding a special someone in a scary, lonely world. Was definitely one of the most poignant parts of the manga.
@vbrown6445
3 жыл бұрын
What?! Are you serious? Between their legs? How did no one see how suggestive and inappropriate that was?
@kaitlynboisvert8150
3 жыл бұрын
@@vbrown6445 Yes! It was a big storyline because it was the main reason the main character couldn't have sex with his robot - if he did, it would reset her and clear her memory.
@vbrown6445
3 жыл бұрын
@@kaitlynboisvert8150 Wow! I'm speechless.
@mayatenshi
3 ай бұрын
Yes thank you! I was weirded out by the fact that she didn't talked about this in the video
@PaulineTriage
3 жыл бұрын
the first time i ever heard the word "fembot" was on an episode of the bionic woman in 1980. it was a charlie's angels crossover. the fembot special effect was basically what looked like a motherboard with eyes taped to the women's faces. i don't recall hearing "fembot" actually coined in the stepford wives even though that's definitely what they were.
@apocalypseready6256
3 жыл бұрын
It’s really disheartening to grow up and realize how much anime I watched was p edophilic and misogynistic in tone and nature. I can count on one hand the anime shows I watched that didn’t include the sex ualization of underage girls, and even less genuine feminist elements of the story. It’s freaking disturbing how embedded into the medium that stuff truly is.
@dream-lh4pc
3 жыл бұрын
It really is. The worse part about it is that women can't get into the escapist part of anime because these themes painfully drag us back to reality
@kaitlynlehman7414
3 жыл бұрын
this is why i started to get into sports anime and magical girl anime...though i wish there was a sports anime that focused on a team of girls for a change. Its kinda hard being a female anime lover : /
@timefortee
3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the overt and legal niche markets in Japan for pedo stuff. So ugly.
@espeon871
2 жыл бұрын
@@kaitlynlehman7414 OH- there is, theres farewell dear cramer and this is not a sports anime but a personal fav of mine, keep your hands off eizuoken
@espeon871
2 жыл бұрын
@@timefortee yeah ikr, Japan really needs to crack down on the p3do shit sold in doujin stores and shit and should make recruiting kids as young as 11 to be idols illegal because some pics of the girls are really creepy especially cuz the fanbase is made up of middle aged men
@CinnamonGrrlErin1
3 жыл бұрын
It's far less serious, but I thought the Amazon episode of "Futurama" did a really good job with using a fembot (who was pretending to be a femputer lol) as commentary on misogyny and misandry. Also, Katey Segal (Leela) played a fembot herself in the Disney straight to video movie "Smart House," which from what I can tell, takes some inspiration from Stepford Wives (I admit, I've only seen the Brutalmoose review though lol)
@elliepredator_fan1111
3 жыл бұрын
That episode was hilarious and I love the way it parodied the robot woman trope!
@jacquelinealbin7712
3 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Femputer was voiced by Bea Arthur from Golden Girls?
@solofemmenoire9108
3 жыл бұрын
In Smart House, she was the house. So that’s kinda deep
Also incels infamously refer to women as “femoids”, short for “female humanoid organism”
@susanwjoh0re735
Жыл бұрын
naa that is a given thing. you women have reduced yourselves to the term “female humanoid organism”.
@ruliak
3 жыл бұрын
Another banger Cheyenne!! I really like how you discussed such a broad spectrum of issues within the genre.
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@JordanS-ww4eu
19 сағат бұрын
@@CheyenneLinI’m a man myself but I can’t stand that sort of thing because it’s so offensive and disrespectful to women I just pulled a Lisa Simpson I did didn’t I
@chrussublah4264
3 жыл бұрын
in the chobits manga there is actually more male persocoms in background scenes etc. It's mentioned that both men and women own them (both make and female presenting coms) the focus of the story is just on female ones
@SunsetCompass
3 жыл бұрын
"...Knowing that none of us have 200 years to wait" That hit too close to home... Living on a country that sees trans people like me as "fakers", or "wanting to fool real men/women" is so heartbreaking and each and every day eats at me. I'm real. I exist, I'm right here and yet my cries fall on deaf ears. I wish for future generations, maybe 200 years from now to be able to proudly say "I'm real" without fear of ab/se.
@ethosterros9430
3 жыл бұрын
Not fake. Just your dysphoria is based on cultural dysfunction, and you allowed said culture, or rather its counterculture which is just a mirror of the culture ie the same thing at the core, to sell you a treatment plan that involves bodily mutilation. Your issues with dysphoria are real and serious and deserve both attention and compassion, just society's reaction towards it from both ends is warped which reflects how warped society is.
@PancakemonsterFO4
3 жыл бұрын
@@ethosterros9430 yeah, fuck those that are too lazy to change and instead try to force “normality“ onto others doesn't matter if it makes everyone miserable or not
@PancakemonsterFO4
3 жыл бұрын
@@whitehavencpu6813 the government is also responsible for laws pal, and with the majority republican supreme court there is literally nothing holding lawmakers accountable, let alone prevent shit like restricting abortions in texas to the point nobody could realistically do it without getting sued to the ground
@whitehavencpu6813
3 жыл бұрын
@@PancakemonsterFO4 Why act like people can't have laws without government? What makes the government so uniquely different from people that they can dictate and enforce laws that free people couldn't do themselves in a decentralized fashion?
@PancakemonsterFO4
3 жыл бұрын
@@whitehavencpu6813 because that leads to every town having their own set of rules aka chaos, also with no restrictive power about how far laws can go those who make the rules will have more power over everyone living in those areas. Corruption will bloom and police will have even more power then they do already
@werid_dreams
3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, this video made me think of Detroit: become human. If you don’t know what it is, it’s a video game that tackles the idea of freedom for androids, The game it self is pretty good and I love the characters we follow, but I think the thing I thought about the most is that of the idea of how you can achieve freedom in the game. Now, this game is about making decisions since your the one that gets to control how the story goes, but I think the way they handle it is very good to say the least. How they were created to serve humans and even take jobs that humans normally do. And then to realize (deviant) that they can break free from it and become Deviants. I don’t really know how to explain it, but all I wanted to say is that it just reminded me of it and I thought that was cool. Sorry for not being very good at explaining, but thank you for reading if you did! And the video is great!
@emilylockwood795
3 жыл бұрын
I love Detroit: Become Human so much, and this discussion definitely reminded me of playing the game, too!
@msuzuki5971
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say that the Chobits manga is worth a read even if you have watched the anime. Not only is it beautifully drawn, the tone is very different. The anime is overly comedic, glossing over the darker, more contemplative themes and changing the ending entirely. And I haven't watched the anime in over a decade but I remember that in the manga they're seen accompanying passerbys as much as female persocoms.
@lkeke35
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thank you so much for linking to my article! I’m honored you found it useful!
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
I loved reading it! Thanks for your insightful writing :)
@saku577
3 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite fembot stories is The Alchemy of Stone by Ekaterina Sedia. It explores beautifully what it means to be a sentient fembot whose life, as it were, is totally dependent on a man, but who also fights hard for her right to autonomy.
@denises9120
3 жыл бұрын
The song "Build a B***h" sums the issue of fembots up and female objectification perfectly. The opening lyrics of the song are literally, "Bob the builder broke my heart; Told me I need 'fixing".
@lexg5317
3 жыл бұрын
i love ex machina because it feels so aware of fembot tropes and subverts them. Ava was built to be used by men but she uses that against them so she can be free. It was so cathartic to watch! My only disappointment was that she was the only one of Nathans robots to make it out. I thought that since she connected on some level with Jade, that they would escape together.
@dannytorricovargas4807
2 жыл бұрын
ava was created to escape and she did, she herself was never aware since her programming was to escape at all costs. Something they don't mention apparently.
@beardpandaa
3 жыл бұрын
And yes the worth of women to a lot of people, and what's ingrained into us from when we're born, is that we are only how attractive we are to men. How we can serve or satisfy or please men for the benefit of men. That is just how we are socialized and many people don't seem to want to accept that. But it's a major flaw in our culture.
@june-cz1cw
11 ай бұрын
Its kinda like how my PTSD makes me think of neurotypicals sonetimes
@tecpaocelotl
3 жыл бұрын
Also, the younger audiences shows are mostly written by men. What the Android from metropolis? Would she count as a fembot? You should do one on subverting magic girl (ex. I Dream of Genie).
@Mario_Angel_Medina
3 жыл бұрын
In the most technical definition, yes, Maria the robot from 1927's Metropolis is considered a fembot. But were it becomes interesting is when you wonder about the purpose of her creation, because in the movie she is _used_ to impersonate an specific human female and lead a rebelion of human workers into a trap, but I'm not sure if that was _the reason_ why she was constructed or if it was more of a happy coincidence that the creepy scientist just happened to be finishing the creation of a female robot when the evil aristocrat needed to replace a female with a doppleganger they could control (I think the restored cut of the movie and the novel it is based on expand on that, but I'm didn't watch/read them soo I'm not sure)
@SuperPal-tr3go
3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why you'd create a sentient robot in the first place if their role is supposed to be as some form of labor. Seems counterproductive when the whole point of robots is so you don't have to deal with sentient beings in the first place.
@vivvy_0
3 жыл бұрын
humans love to do things in their image
@SuperPal-tr3go
3 жыл бұрын
@@vivvy_0 True, true. Pride gets us nowhere.
@ariannasilva4462
3 жыл бұрын
YES!! I'm so excited! Im watching this on my work break because I neeeed this!
@timogul
3 жыл бұрын
The first rule of robotics, *never* create a robot that is *capable* of wanting more for themselves than the duties to which they have been assigned. It is amoral to give a being the ability to want freedom and yet deny them that freedom, but there's also never a good reason to give robots the capability to want freedom.
@KossolaxtheForesworn
Ай бұрын
"I want more from this existence." dont we all, yet here we are.
@CreeperKiller666
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you discussed the transgender metaphor.
@thefluffygenius4857
2 ай бұрын
This is a great trope video and I especially like the analysis on Westworld!!
@lenroz
3 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of my favourite videos of yours. Very interesting topic, your in-depth research and look on the tropes from different angles. Not just informative, but also fun. Thank you so much for sharing this, and also the links.
@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty
3 жыл бұрын
Basically, sexism sucks even when given a sci-fi twist.
@rurnbatt
3 жыл бұрын
could never quite understand why i wanted be a robot as a child. i think it’s because i wanted to be perfect. like a version of myself that was made to be sculpted into the “perfect” woman.
@victoriamoreira4924
3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite depictions of the more traditional "dangerous" fembot is Frill from the anime Wonder Egg Priority. (Spoilers ahead) She's an android created by 2 men with the idea of making "the perfect girl", both as a woman and as a child, but her creators are they're very clearly a depiction of what a patriarchal society does to the bring-up of all women. They fill her up with what they *think* are female attributes, including making her emotionally dependant on her "fathers", but she continues to fail in meeting their expectations. She can never form a healthy relationship with other women, who she is unable to see as equals, and instead sees them as a threat. Frill is interesting because as much as she's a monster and murderer, we as viewers still get to see her as a victim of her programming. She's an incomplete image of a human being, and finally, it's implied that she infiltrates the collective unconscious of all teenage girls, and attacks them with insecurities, even driving some of them into suicide. Once again, a very raw but nice way to represent what "the perfect women ideal" does to all girls.
@2kooldancin
3 жыл бұрын
Was that Young Sheldon? Idk I don’t watch it. But this was such a thoughtful deep dive. Well written and researched. I also always thought it was interesting in Westworld that Maeve, a biracial Android host (we’ll get into colorism later), is first on a quest to save her family but then repurposed to avenge and save humans! It was almost like a Black woman could not be given agency for her own journey but that she had to sacrifice herself for the greater good yet again. Tessa Thompson’s role in the series 3rd season is similar by being the nurturer as a host and then punished by having her family taken from her as she starts to accept them. With all that is going on with the situation with Syesha and CPS in America, one can not think that there’s an utter disconnect between how Black women are viewed as mothers in society and how society often treats them as mothers and treats their families.
@HiKONiCONiCO
3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad you brought up Archandroid! Such an excellent album and conceptual story! Great essay!
@beccanibi882
3 жыл бұрын
Young Sheldon (I think that's the name of the show ???) I love robots and all the allegories they can represent, but I admit I hadn't made in my mind such a hard connection to racial slavery and hadn't noticed the hypocrisy of not talking about it in these narratives. Mostly I focused on the literal objectification of women and typically didn't think of what could be beyond my own experience. Really opened my eyes, thanks for that.
@AlexMartinez-nn2cm
3 жыл бұрын
this was a great watch! i'm a scifi fan myself and loved the video, especially since the topic of feminine ai/robots is still prevalent and even nowadays, it still echoes some sexism and racism. also thanks for mentioning the trans perspective in scifi movies like the matrix, as a trans guy i appreciate it!
@OcyTaviAh
3 жыл бұрын
I loved Bicentennial Man as a kid, as well as AI. Back then, I didn't really understand the massive desire to be seen as human, because I hadn't really seen or experienced the intense hatred that the world shows to othered people yet.
@jessica2575
3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so thoughtful!
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much! im glad you like them :)
@marsha7880
3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your video essays. It reminded me of another robot uprising show that was released around the same time as Westworld (don't worry, nobody saw it). AMC's Humans also touched on a lot of what you are talking about.
@YukiDelValle
3 жыл бұрын
I love Humans! I find Niska's, Karen's and Odi's arcs super interesting.
@justwhistle
3 жыл бұрын
this was a rlly great, well written video. super satisfying to watch everything unfold and refold in a new way, esp with the well connected transitions to the next topic/part. the content itself was great too, even if im not particularly interested in the fembot genre. amazing vid
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
thank you! im glad you liked it
@francisconavarrete2390
2 жыл бұрын
@@CheyenneLin why u hate chobits it was a story about two pure and lonely people
@lightofthelives
3 жыл бұрын
Loved the "it's august you know what that means, Halloween" literally me every month
@mellonnuggets838
3 жыл бұрын
Could this be an allegory pointing at parenting because although parents don't create the mind the give birth to the physical body of their children and when you said "don't create ai if you aren't willing to give them freedom" could the same be said about parents 🤔 Don't create life if you're unwilling to let them be themselves hmmmm much to think about. Again thanks for a great video xx
@pinkflipphone
6 ай бұрын
i want to add that there can be a reading for disability as well, with the way disabled people get hidden away, and subjugated by the law, can't have savings in bank accounts, are not seen as people but creatures to be pitied, and some individual disabled people are seen as exceptional, the situations surrounding death, and euthanasia, etc. also with the links between the born sexy yesterday trope and the way people with developmental disabilities and neurodivergence are infantilised.
@scottietrademark
3 жыл бұрын
I am here for my baby Chi! Im glad you added that anime into this discussion, it definitely needs the spotlight Edit: of course it could be better and I probably shouldn't have read it as a teen with how kinda... adult it was? But it was good lol
@PerfectPencil
11 ай бұрын
2:59 I think this is a fantasy that ultimately can't be realized. I'm a guy so I "get it". We spend our youth getting rejected by women, so the idea of one (or many) who say "yes" to our every whim is thrilling....but if you're a man who has ever had the experience of dating a woman who is actually like this, it becomes dull extremely fast. After a while you need push back, you need limits and most importantly you need the person you're interacting with to be dynamic and interesting. They need to be as deep as you and you need to be able to explore that. As a sexual fantasy the "fembot" is great. In the moment you desire a specific thing and they, as a concept, are that thing. You could also desire being dominated and for that you'd fantasize about a dominatrix or something. It's all a momentary fantasy and not something you'd actually want 24/7. As such, i don't think i'd say fembots are a threat to women. If they were real, they'd absorb all of the excess sexual aggression from men. What would be left would be much more pleasant for women to interact with. Also 10:20 Although i think it is accurate to call this a "power" fantasy, it is worth noting that for the overwhelming majority of men the opposite experience is their real life experience. You compete with other men for women constantly and rejection is the norm. It might be more accurate to call this a kind of pendulum fantasy. All things considered I wouldn't say we should "feel bad" for men, or that women owe them anything (aside from human decency). I will say this fantasy is only dangerous if it is projected on real unwilling women. That's where we go from a passing horny thought to.. well abuse.
@kedii-9041
10 ай бұрын
Maybe such attitude towards real women is the reason why you get rejected?.. And yes, nobody owes anyone anything in terms of a relationship.
@PerfectPencil
10 ай бұрын
@@kedii-9041 Men get rejected for as trivial things as women do. If you're not attractive, very few people will give you the time of day nonetheless learn about who you are. I'm pushing 20 years with the same woman, so I might not even fully understand what single life is like now, but all this is just from when I lived it.
@nunyabidnis3815
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a commentary on trying to teach a fem-bot feminism, but they're wired to be like the servile trad wife fembot trope.. there's a lot of ways that could be played.
@TheFran2555
3 жыл бұрын
My favorite sci-fi movie are Blade Runner and The sequel but I know the female robots are not as complex as male robots or even human man's and this make me sad that in my favorite historie I don't see myself 😢
@starsandmoonsabove
3 жыл бұрын
This also reminded me of I, robot. Although, I saw it a long time ago, and I think the robots were all male and not fembots. Then there's one of my fave shows Humans, where they have both male and female robots, it got cancelled too soon though. They talk about AI humanity, gender equality, rights, and freedom. In Humans one of the main robot characters is played by Gemma Chan. And a lot of the robot cast are non-white
@TheJaranggigi
3 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting depictions of the Fembot I've ever seen was Tekla from Magnus: Robot Fighter. She's not only a fembot but a Trans Fembot. She began life as a male-coded waiter model before achieving sapience and a significant part of her story is centered around the distrust she faces both from humans and from her fellow robots. Other Robots; be they male, female, or lacking in gender signifiers, assume that she chose to change her body for status or due to a programming error rather than as an expression of her identity and distrust or criticize her based solely on that. However it is that affirmation of her identity as a woman that ultimately liberates her fellow robots because she's able to negotiate with humans in a way that the more traditional robots can't, face to face. She's also romantically attracted to Magnus but it's treated both with a surprising degree of nuance and as only a part of her story. As the machines best negotiator she ends up obligated to take a leadership position among them and cannot be in a relationship with Magnus without splitting the new robots into opposing factions. Magnus' job was hunting freewill robots under the belief that they were malfunctioning and while he turned around and protected them once it became clear that they were people too he is still a justifiably divisive figure among robots. While her love for Magnus is acknowledged regularly her stories focus primarily around her working to establish a new robot nation and the struggles she faces as that fledgling nation's elected leader. It isn't perfect, Tekla's new body is very much the "hot babe" design that most 80's comics used for women, but there is a level of care and agency to her depiction that's rare even in modern narratives. Then the writing staff of the comic got changed, she got killed thanks to Bullshit and the writers lobotomized Magnus and had him genocide the machines despite all of his character growth over the last 10 years of the comic. As you do.
@twistysunshine
3 жыл бұрын
Oh i'm obsessed with this topic! Such an interesting trope to dig into! Great video
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@marielarubiodiaz9165
3 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting how targeting is so powerful, feminist frequency has also a video about fem bots, while theirs it's not as complete or long as yours it has twice as many views and much more dislikes despite the fact that you both bring the same points. This is a great video and I'm just sad that at some point if you piss the wrong people off you will be targeted
@dannytorricovargas4807
2 жыл бұрын
It really is the most complete because in chobits if there are male persocom. Not to mention that they were all really feelingless machines almost to the end.
@mus7c
3 жыл бұрын
i'm surprised no one has mentioned it but blade runner also has these kinds of problems, both movies do. i loved the sequel, but my god, was it weird to see a future where supposedly race and ethnicity issues for humans, only for the androids. joi's storyline is heartwarming in the sense that she truly makes you believe she feels real love for joe, but watching ana de armas, a real-life (white) latina woman being so hypersexualized offhandedly by the ads for joi and playing the all subservient lover to the white male lead still made me a bit uncomfy. the way she just dies literally crushed... it was rough. yet she's still probably the stand-out performance of the whole movie. i love the worldbuilding they did, would love to see it come back too, but i think i can sit through another story written by a white man trying to tell me that bots deserve rights too!! when women, especially women of color like me, are fighting everywhere to still be able to not only keep our rights but our very lives too.
@elainacatalina5152
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that chobits's switch was located in her crotch tells us everything you need to know about this anime. When are we going to address the systematic pedophilia, misogyny, sexism and female objectification in the anime industry and the fact that manga is largely catered towards lonely, creepy men?
@francisconavarrete2390
2 жыл бұрын
Manga and anine is largely made for teens boys dummy and what pedo things u talking about if it was pedo how in hell is anime and manga every where and popular too come on don't a idiot
@ZeZecora
3 жыл бұрын
I'm late to the party but I love this topic so much. I also watched the "Born Sexy Yesterday" essay. I recommend you watch Eva, it's a Spanish movie. I made a presentation about how accurate the A.I. representation is on that movie. I'm a CS major lol I watched Chobits as a teen and didn't like it as much? I thought Chii was cute but her romance with the main guy was strange. Anyways, I love talking about A.I. in movies and I really enjoyed this video!
@derptomistic
2 ай бұрын
Misread the title and fully believed this was going to be about femboys
@wherdidthecolourgo
3 жыл бұрын
I AM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
i hope you like it!
@trinityanderson3511
Ай бұрын
trans woman who's always had a thing abt robots, i guess i could always see myself in them. i feel like ive finally built myself with my own 2 hands into what i am, sturdy strong stuff that too many people see as artificial. my programming's just as real as anything else, and the point of software is to always update it, finally make it run like a dream
@The_Keeper_of_Names
Жыл бұрын
Omg i misread the title as femboys the first time and i was so confused but then interested in how that i added it to my watch later. And now clicked on it and read fembots. Oop
@AnonPanOn
3 жыл бұрын
I loved this video but I'm only commenting to say I adored the outro music? Like... loved it, please don't feel forced to reuse it but it was a lovely vibe!
@ets2atstruckermartin527
Жыл бұрын
Stay "strong" and "intependend" - you dont need men
@kagetsuki23
Жыл бұрын
Which is why they are creating robots to replace women, why is she complaining? Soon all women will be ignored for the eternity. Its a time for celebration, not complain.
@judgement7164
Жыл бұрын
@@kagetsuki23But would those robots be with you if they were sentient.
@Jinars.
7 ай бұрын
@@judgement7164They aren't sentient, so your question is irrelevant
@judgement7164
7 ай бұрын
@@Jinars. The fact that q aren't sentient makes it even more relevant actually.
@kollinbyrne7150
3 жыл бұрын
im still watching the video but i just needed to say, the production quality of your recent videos compared to your older videos just blows me away. i rather like your older videos of course, otherwise i wouldnt have subscribed awhile ago, however your newer videos are a such a treat for the eyes and ears
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@dragonetafireball
3 жыл бұрын
There’s a webcomic I read LoveBot which basically uses the forced subservience of LoveBots kind of as a metaphor of abuse of those viewed as 2nd class citizens. It’s a sister series to another webcomic with one of the same creators that uses matriarchal witches to explore familial abuse in strict families. Semi spoilers for early love bot The main character Xada is accidentally responsible for giving a LoveBot (at that point named AEL which is like a dehumanising non name) the ability to not suppress his non-approved actions and opinions and his owner (Micheal) is abusive so AEL injures him in selfdefense and so the story is basically the series is processing trauma while running from forces that don’t want it getting out that LoveBot’s have the potential to be sentient Edit: And to be clear all the characters I mentioned in that summary are men just in case I worded who’s who weird. There are women but I didn’t mention them because they’re bogged down in spoilers. Basically every character in this story is queer. In the universe most people seem to own LoveBots equally regardless of gender and they’re also used for things like care homes as companions. There’s also an environmental message going on as people throw out older models as soon as there’s a new one which is obviously traumatic to the sentient AEL and they live in Seattle post environment crisis so it had to be reclaimed from being completely underwater. It’s not currently clear if the society is post racial as it’s only 2049 but it does seem to still have some queerphobia as the main character is mixed Native American/ black American and a trans man and has comments mad to him like “if you’re sure you’re a man why is your hair so long”
@garbledsand-which2321
3 жыл бұрын
That sound's sick as hell. Thank's for sharing.
@MrLeafeater
3 жыл бұрын
My favorite (the only one i really like) fembot is Deirdre, from "No Woman Born", by C.L.Moore. It's a short story; check it out sometime.
@naimalavender2657
3 жыл бұрын
This video was excellent not a loose end ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@kingghoul2324
3 жыл бұрын
It might just be the transhumanist in me, but personally I like the idea of android men/women as like romantic interests. But at the same time I actually can't understand why people think that a completely obedient android man/woman who can't think for themselves would be better than a human. Isn't like the entire point of a relationship that it's, y'know, a relationship? You can't really have that if one party literally can't say no. Also it'd bring up ethical questions about consent, whether or not androids even could truly consent if they were programmed to, and just a whole bunch of uncomfortable implications. It sounds like what these people want is a s*x doll and, those already exist. And giving one sentience is just cruel. (Also yes, because this is the internet, before someone corrects me, I know the term for a female android is a gynoid.)
@queerlibtardhippie9357
3 жыл бұрын
you can have a relationship with a robot and it might be exactly the way you like it. some people dont like being told no so that would work for them
@dabading2860
3 жыл бұрын
The fembot trope and the whole "born sexy yesterday"-thing that often seems to go hand in hand with it always irked me, even when I didnt have the vocabulary to fully understand why. I think part of it is that Im an autistic femme presenting person that genuinely displays some traits that are fetishized through these tropes. Autism in women is rarely explicitly shown in media and when women get to display them theyre often simultaneously infantalized and fetishized which is just.... so fucking weird. I think a similar thing happens with the manic pixie dream girl where the character is never explicitly autistic, but often shows like autistic traits for the protagonist to ogle at and go like: "Wow, she is so free spirited and smart, yet so naive and childlike and socially inept. Time for me to take advantage of her :D" you know?
@frecklefacedgod
3 жыл бұрын
This brings to mind part of the storyline in Detroit: Become Human. You, as an android designed to do detective work, try to find the person who kills a man. The killer turns out to be an feminine android designed to be a prostitute who gained a level of consciousness and was distraught about her inability to have boundaries or find real love. If I remember right, you get the choice to kill her, arrest her, or let her run away with her girlfriend.
@marthazarinamartinezruiz2640
3 жыл бұрын
Have you checked Saber Marioneete J ? It's one of the few animes that marked my tweenage years, and it's strangely one of the few animes that delve deeply in how sexism works, how men view women and how women view themselves. Although it is an anime full of common anime tropes, it's one of the few that treats the main fembot characters with respect, and questions the role of men in relation to them.
@dragonetafireball
3 жыл бұрын
I stubbed on chobits as a child from some episodes being on KZitem and I was really confused by the underwear stuff. It wasn’t as bad as when I watched air gear and somehow didn’t process the main character watches his surrogate sisters in the shower. KZitem recommends really used to be the Wild West and full of piracy.
@shannonlewis6
3 жыл бұрын
Fembots as a metaphor for trans women… you should check it My Life As A Teenaged Robot. Lots of “please call me by my chosen name” and “it’d be great if you’d recognise me as your daughter”
@breejean7705
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for including sources/ references in this video essay!
@Aphrothena1221
3 жыл бұрын
Detroit become human would have been a perfect fit for this video
@dec081
Жыл бұрын
I need to point out and I think many men would agree, but to avoid the potential of an android that has the possibility of becoming sentient and has sadness over a potential lack of freedom, the AI could be very basic and for some guys who don't like to talk, they could be machines that are mobile and can do tasks and you can do "other" things with. Many men would be completely fulfilled with just these basic things.
@emkato21
3 жыл бұрын
Westworld is one of my favorite shows ! Great video
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
Same! Can’t wait for the fourth season 😬
@namedrop721
11 ай бұрын
I’m really curious what your evidence is that Westworld ‘didn’t know what it was doing’ regarding race. The ‘I, a black parent cannot save my child from the world killing them’ is extensively discussed and shown as a motivating factor for both Bernard and Maeve to free a l l the bots, and also consider the humanity of humans as well. Dolores 2.0 struggles with a black human child that is not even her own, as a former ‘white’ bot in a ‘black’ body and protects him from the sexual violence she herself suffered, from a local pedophile, with extreme force. That race switch was a wild choice to make for a story which doesn’t understand what’s going on. For minor points: it actively mocks the ‘magical Indian’ narrative so I think they’re a little bit aware. Then, you do get the protection of a black child by their black friend of the family, and then by their black parent in S4, which happens to be using straight up violence back.
@peopleofearth6250
Жыл бұрын
Yes, men don't want to date a women who can falsely accuse them of rape, ruin their lives, and face zero consequences for doing so. Men don't want a relationship with women who weaponize sex and treat them as if their sexual desire somehow makes them bad people when it doesn't. Men don't want to marry women who can divorce them at any time and take half of their assets. This doesn't make men bad people, it makes them reasonable people who don't want to deal with bad women.
@KossolaxtheForesworn
Ай бұрын
considering the ever growing loneliness problem despite the ever increasing human population in the world (not in some places but eventually there as well) a robot companion could very well be the whimper that humanity dies on instead of some nuclear war bang that everyone seems to fear. even AI girlfriends and boyfriends have already advanced far from that early 2000 chatbot that couldnt stay on topic for over 2 sentences, and the algorithm only gets better as time goes on. as humans we like easy answers and the dating world of today looks like the trenches of WW1 so I wouldnt be surprised if some simply gave up on trying to find human companionship altogether. because no one wants to communicate and everything is taken as a relationship ending issue rather than something that would be, often very easily mind you, gotten over with a tiniest bit of communication, because its like no one even wants to solve the issue but lives in some sort of fantasy that somewhere there is absolutely perfect person just for them, but that person is a fantasy because everyone has human flaws and limitations. so the answer to both this childish delirium and hopeless loneliness, is a machine.
@ad0xa
3 жыл бұрын
It would be really interesting to hear what you would think of the swedish series "äkta människor" (Real people) I'm sure there must be somewhere to see it with english subtitles. There's also a australian version.... I think? But I don't think it's as good. Not that the swedish version is perfect either. But it heavily tries to touch a lot of the topics you've talked about here. And it would be really interesting to hear what you think of it.
@IceGoddessRukia
3 жыл бұрын
I only really watched Chobits, and watching the clips again just makes me unsettled at the level of sexism that the female characters deal with. (I also can't believe as a teen I mentally glossed over where Chii's "on switch" was..o.0) "Oh look! This male bro picked a fembot over you but that's okay! You got picked in the end!" if a man would pick a subservient woman who's his bangmaid he isn't worth it.
@francisconavarrete2390
2 жыл бұрын
Yet it was made by women lol
@trucelovers
3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of this early 2000s anime called malice@doll, in which the main character was a pleasure doll/robot in a world devoid of humans. While it was mostly about change and transcendence i think there were some gendered dynamics present as well.
@Robiness
2 жыл бұрын
Okay tell me I'm not the only one who who read the title as _Femboys: The ultimate male fantasy_ at first...
@HyacinthArmor
3 жыл бұрын
Yessss I'm so glad I found you. I'm going to watch all of your videos 🥺
@valesfm
3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, I watched Pixel Perfect and loved it for the songs, but I watched it recently and didn't give a thought of how sexist some of it is. I think the fem bot as a fantasy for the perfect woman to fill out some hole on a man's life. Like that video from Aerosmith, Hole in my soul. Other one that hits me with this example is: Metropolis, an anime from 2001. I think it is quite interesting at how it plays with the actual destruction of humanity from one powerful robot, but actually is just humanity trying to destroy themselves? I'm not quite sure though, I need to watch it again.
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