Since 458 Ferrari really is head and shoulder above all others. How they can get 600 hp from a 4,5L NA engine shows engineering at a new level. Others keep increasing the size of their turbos to hang on. And the accessibility and easiness to drive these high hp cars is amazing, just like 950hp LaF.
@TheCaps35
10 жыл бұрын
600 HP at the crank out of 4.5 L NA. A 15,000 dollar BMW S1000RR will put down 177 HP at the rear tire. So with a 10% drivetrain loss, thats 194 odd horsepower at the crank. That's 194 HP per liter. Ferrari's 133 per liter is nothing special.
@Dgannt
10 жыл бұрын
TheCaps35 It's wrong on so many levels to compare a motorcycle engine with a car engine that it's impossible to explain it to you. Obviously you don't have a basic understanding of the differences.
@TheCaps35
10 жыл бұрын
Differences? Both are dual overhead cam, 4 valves per cylinder, 4 stroke engines. Except the 458 has twice the cylinders. Now Ferrari may have been more concerned with torque, than BMW was with the S1000RR but these engines are very similar in theory (S1000RR is a very oversquare engine for high RPM)
@valebliz
10 жыл бұрын
TheCaps35 Yes but the 458 engine has more than twice the CCs per cylinder. 250cc per cyl s1000rr vs 560cc on the 458... that makes a HUGE difference. The s1000rr can rev to 14000... You could compare it more with the 1199 panigale engine.
@Dgannt
10 жыл бұрын
TheCaps35 Just the load difference on these engines should tell you a lot. The difference in max RPM, the weight of the vehicle and so on. In MOTOGP they used to get over 200 hp from a 500cc engine before they changed to 4 cyl engines. All these engines are developed for different purposes and would never work in another sort of vehicle. Currently Ferrari holds the world record for amount of hp/L from a NA engine. That's the engine in Speciale.
@Shadowboost
10 жыл бұрын
LOVE the fact that Ferrari refused a head to head track battle between the 650s and the Speciale. Seems like they knew right away what the result would be like.
@GertKlinge
10 жыл бұрын
Because their updated 458t is just around the corner and that very car is going to be more comparable to the 650..
@Dgannt
10 жыл бұрын
It would have been beneath Speciale to battle with a turbo charged freak like 650S. Mclaren made that car in response to Speciale. They keep increasing the size of turbos on their 3,8l engine to beat Ferraries but fail again. Speed alone has never made a good and desirable sports car. 4,5L high reving NA and razor sharp responses with all it's 600 hp performance easily available. Just like every test driver was in awe how easy and accessible all the 950hp in LaF is. Looks, top engineering, accessibility, drama, great sound track. These puts Ferrari above all others. 12C was a mute sports car that did not stir many emotions. 650 S seems to go the same way. With the ass of 12C and the head of P1. Chop chop. Talk about design crises. 650S may be faster than Speciale but what does it help? It's behind in everything else.
@Shadowboost
10 жыл бұрын
bezor Ta Accessible LaFerrari, ask Raikkonen how accessible it is. And no, the 650S has the same size turbos as the 12C, but you know that. It has different pistons, variable valve timing, and cooling system. Faster to me is everything. It's a whole lot of emotion in a hurry
@Dgannt
10 жыл бұрын
Shadowboost What? So Rikkonen went over the limit with the car, Every test driver is in awe of the accessibility of such a powerful car. And that after they have driven both the other 2 cars. If speed is everything to you then you should buy the new Corvette Z06. And you get it for half the price lol.
@Shadowboost
10 жыл бұрын
bezor Ta I don't think you understand what accessible means. That means that a pro F1 driver doesn't go and spin off. And a LaFerrari XX doesn't break a suspension and hobble off like an old man
@LisztianGR
10 жыл бұрын
To everyone mocking the test driver, and his looks in particular: he drives a Speciale around the track for a living, you don't. Now enjoy your Cristiano Ronaldo abs and have a nice day. Concerning the review: could be better. Not that Sutcliffe is any better though...
@cadenguyen463
10 жыл бұрын
Steve is a world better.....
@christianaugustin7047
10 жыл бұрын
So according to your logic one who drives supercars on tracks for a living is impervious to mockery?
@LisztianGR
10 жыл бұрын
Christian Augustin No he is not. But for the right reasons mate...
@christianaugustin7047
10 жыл бұрын
LisztianGR lol there is never a right reason to mock. But I see what you mean. The review was horrible though.
@LisztianGR
10 жыл бұрын
Christian Augustin Sure you can mock the review as much as you like, but mocking a person's appearance in this context is a blow below the belt and quite uncalled for...
@TheJoeMB
10 жыл бұрын
Some of you people can be mean for the sake of it. I'm glad Matt is doing this test, he is very articulate and he knows what he is talking about. Stop hating because of his weight, Suttcliffe is not a small man either. More videos Matt!!! It makes a nice change.
@j600esh
10 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back on video Matt. Shame about the nasty comments, but let's face it guys, it took time to get accustomed to Steve's presentation style after Mr Harris went elsewhere. I think a little more tolerance wouldn't hurt. On the flip-side of things, the presenter is the one DRIVING the said vehicle, while you type away at a keypad, looking on a screen. Just let that sink in. Oh and by the way, he gets paid to do this...and you share your comments for free. Just let that sink in.
@ItsChristianHD
10 жыл бұрын
McLaren fanboys need to gtfo. We dont care if your 650s is .5 seconds faster around a track. in the end, all that matters is 9000 rpm screaming, great looks, and a giant smile on your face. :)
@bivvyfox
10 жыл бұрын
and what about handling fun? you sound like a lambo man.
@worldhello1234
10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a megalomaniac who cannot speak for himself. =)
@ItsChristianHD
10 жыл бұрын
Actually Ferrari is my favorite. And in my opinion having fun is all that matters in the end. We all have our own opinions.
@alpharesch724
10 жыл бұрын
ChristianK27 I think the same
@bivvyfox
10 жыл бұрын
ChristianK27 yes but if it's all about fun, you can have lots of fun without having to blow all that on a super car. toyota gt85 with a super charger can be had for a fraction. Most rich spend many hours working for it and get into a work habit, they have little time to enjoy it. it's all about balance. no need to be a brand snob, or think that only mega bucks buys fun. peace.
@tmh44
10 жыл бұрын
The last words of the video: "It shouldn't be this easy". While I have massive respect for the Speciale, and modern cars in general, I can't help but think that something is being lost when any performance car is 'easy' to drive. I've driven the 430 Scuderia several times and, while the F1 gearbox is far more brutal and 'clunky' than the 458's dual-clutch, it added a challenge to getting the shifts right, and threw in a dash of character flaw, which I found charming. In track-attack mode, each upshift felt like a kick in the spine. Am I dissing on the 458 Speciale? Absolutely not--I haven't driven one yet, and Im sure it's massively impressive...but, sometimes it's the flaws that give a car that 'X-Factor'--such as the absurdly cramped, difficult to park, and ridiculously-clad Lamborghini Countach. It drove like a truck, made your arms tired, hydroplaned in the wet, and drenched you in sweat...but it also looked like a UFO, sounded like the God of Thunder, and made people smile (or laugh) everywhere it went...especially the driver. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I find 'perfection' to be a bit boring...if there's nothing to complain about, laugh about, or get scared about, I feel something has been lost in a car--especially one of this caliber.
@jeffwill4923
10 жыл бұрын
You are in the minority. All this refining and all computers stepping takes the driver/rawness out of equation. It seems everything is becoming GT R like. Nothing against it but jump in and turn the wheel,brake and hit the gas is all needed to drive at track. The new GT3 is the perfection example of this situation.
@streamcnoremorse3323
10 жыл бұрын
Hi. I want to know. What the car is more controllable? Old Lambo or new but without ABS, ESP, etc. The same question with Ferrari and other supercars. Old or modern but without driving helpers.
@tmh44
10 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Williams In reading your response I'm not sure if you like the new, easy-to-drive cars or not--if you do, more power to you, if you don't, I'm on your side ;)
@tmh44
10 жыл бұрын
StreamC Noremorse I would guess that, excluding any driver aids like Traction Control, Stability Management, etc. the ''new' cars will still be far more controllable than the old simply because of advancements in materials, engineering, and a further understanding of aerodynamics, suspension geometry, etc., etc.
@ownowbrownkow
10 жыл бұрын
The amount of power that motor produces is staggering.. 600 horses in that car would be bonkers. I took my buddys car to the dyno with him and it only made 245 rwhp and it is a fast car, I could only imagine 600 Italian horses :D
@michaelmottlau2072
10 жыл бұрын
Nice video, and a nice guy who can powerslide and gives an informative review of this great Ferrari. Well done. Don't listen to the negative people here, just do your thing.
@BradfordtheEclectic
8 жыл бұрын
Clumsy, lacks polish, waste of petrol and tires; tiring to watch.
@Amarax1
10 жыл бұрын
C'mon, I rev out my mazda 323 harder than this guy revs a 458
@angelcabral7061
10 жыл бұрын
Mazda 323 lmfao
@koruki
10 жыл бұрын
lol whats the redline on that mazda
@ltphilipg
10 жыл бұрын
Autocar Thanks for the over the shoulder camera view. Helps me get a better sense and experience of what the driver is feeling/talking about
@alcam100
10 жыл бұрын
I think this review was made interesting by the fact that Matt doesn't hoon around in launch cars all the time. I felt like he was experiencing it for me. I say good job Matt.
@jamescutter8760
10 жыл бұрын
Actually love the colour imo. Such an awesome car
@Groagun
10 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed seeing someone present who isn't the level of Mr Sutcliffe. 90% of all Ferrari buyers are people who can afford them but lack the 1% necessary to take them too their limit. Mr Saunders is far more representative of the typical Ferrari buyer and he did a fantastic job here. Well Done!
@fundiver198
10 жыл бұрын
This will probably be the last naturally aspirated Ferrari V8 and thereby also the most powerfull, they will ever make. And for that reason I think, this could turn out to be quite a collectors item in the future, where it will all be turbocharged or hybrid drivetrains.
@ryanwhite9103
10 жыл бұрын
*powertrain
@BlackDog4758
10 жыл бұрын
that 458 wasn't even used at 20% of its capabilities. that guy doesn't even deserve puting his ass on this car's seat.
@GiveMeABloodyUser
10 жыл бұрын
says the expert
@charliethebat
10 жыл бұрын
why is he short shifting every single gear?
@batousan_
10 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the whole video?
@foodley123
10 жыл бұрын
Hmm those tyres look far stickier than they should be. Wonder if that car was prepped specifically for the track test by Ferrari.
@xexas3000
10 жыл бұрын
you know it was.. remember CH on cars? yep.
@BigLukeyBoi
10 жыл бұрын
***** you're deluded if you think Ferrari is the only company who does that
@burritomaker69
10 жыл бұрын
***** They are one of the few that do that...........Youre diluted hahaha Ferrari is one of the largest reputation brands out there....
@al8161
10 жыл бұрын
how can you make a review of a 458 speciale boring? Well, this way...
@adrianmuntean6134
10 жыл бұрын
"Grip" and "AMG Black Series" in the same sentence? No-no.
@SkarnDeBrax
10 жыл бұрын
It's great, but I think that the tittle lie a little bit ? It's not what I call "on the limit". For the rest, Great ;-)
@roberthoffman6823
10 жыл бұрын
Why so many haters? I enjoyed the review, and most of all the sound of that engine and downshifts :)
@DPPremier
10 жыл бұрын
these days it's all about higher, faster, Better-firstly I even had the same thoughts, that this guy might not be the right one fpr the job-but then, even if that was not the 100% limit of the car, i dare believe that 99% of those criticising that guy wouldn't even see the tail of him disappearing on the horizon. I like his enthusiasm and way of slowly digging into the limits of the car. good job!
@jaaftmr
10 жыл бұрын
i liked, it was a natural review, not a full hardcore reivew, but he was some skilss, and reallly like cars and what they are for
@leepage7213
10 жыл бұрын
Never let this man in front of a camera again, truly dreadful!
@tinywrinkle
10 жыл бұрын
5:24 "You don't expect to be able to do big power slides in a 600HP mid-engine Ferrari..." Uh, why the hell not? That's EXACTLY what I would expect it to be able to do. Lots of power, rear wheel drive, engine weight close to the rear...
@adzmorris
10 жыл бұрын
Matt is an excellent driver and an equally excellent journalist but sometimes a great journo doesn't translate into a great presenter. And visa versa, there are some great presenters that fall to pieces when trying to actually write about a car. I'm trying to be polite as I am a fan of Matt's work but maybe lets leave the presenting to camera stuff to Steve. Superb car too.
@alejojlujan10
10 жыл бұрын
for the first time ever, im drooling over a ferrari. the yellow paint color is killer
@ArthurSperotto
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome review! I loved it! I also don't understand all the thumbs down...
@jeffwill4923
10 жыл бұрын
According to Autocar, a 650 S was going to be filmed with this 458 at track. When Ferrari got word of such video, they told Autocar not to do it. Only film them on roads. From what I gathered 650S and Speciale were neck to neck at this track. Man Ferrari loves control to everything and everybody. I can't wait to hear of the reasons and excuses a LaFerrari smoking. Pics released does show some type small fire at the rear end.
@Gentlemen_london_
10 жыл бұрын
If you have the money then buying one of these is clearly a no brainer! What an absolutely epic piece of kit.....
@ellieisfit15
10 жыл бұрын
I wish I could afford one... I would have it in dark red metallic, with black rims and a Novitec Exhaust
@F1Oversteer
10 жыл бұрын
I know its expensive but you can rev it over 6k rpm, it redlines at 9 and a half!
@bryangarcia3941
10 жыл бұрын
I want your job
@JamesJohnson-oc4dk
9 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the Lipton Ice Tea ad previous to this video was incredible...car is awesome as well.
@JeromeDH92
10 жыл бұрын
This video nails the point: what counts is the accessibility of performance
@marioricketts936
10 жыл бұрын
I like how they troll him as he say's fairly a fast 3rd gear corner and he's puttering in 5th @ 3:17
@proggyjoe
10 жыл бұрын
Sorry if i missed it, but in the end do you like it more than the scuderia? Or is the scuderia still a better challenge?
@joeweaver5712
10 жыл бұрын
Why so many dislikes?! Great review, knowledgeable and skilled driver, unbelievable car....don't get it, despite initially thinking "Where's Steve?"
@A_MR_E
10 жыл бұрын
So the question at the beginning of the video is "How does it compare to the 430 Scuderia?" And the answer is "It shouldnt be this easy to drift....." :-/
@TWHISPERER
7 жыл бұрын
Simple, but effective review. Thumbs up
@nickcollins9372
10 жыл бұрын
theres no such thing as too much grip or too direct in cornering...
@geforce5700fx
10 жыл бұрын
Look at the Red Bull X2011 ... this car in real life would be TOO MUCH grip.
@sarun2306
10 жыл бұрын
change test driver pls
@rodasrodas
10 жыл бұрын
Well done! Good photo and driver. The engine sound was ok but the drivers superlatives were harder to understand.
@stoneeh
10 жыл бұрын
Let this guy do the Skoda Fabia and Audi A3 reviews, and please leave the Ferraris to Steve Sutcliffe.
@alessiolidozzi2622
10 жыл бұрын
"Just give it an hour" I would give it much more!
@matthoulden3725
10 жыл бұрын
brilliant car, looks so aggressive. not sure about the journalist though, he can't really do the drive and talk thing very well "tyres sticky enough to stick to the underside of an A380 airbus" what does that mean? its not even funny; and, he doesn't wrap it up with a conclusion at the end, it just ends on 'thats the miracle'. Car journalists need to fun and cool so you envy them, not someone who buys his clothes from jackamo and drives a car we all dream about at half revs. stick steve in there next time please, drive network is garbage now its been bought out and evo keeps posting videos of people talking to fill in between there track battles.
@DJzSith
10 жыл бұрын
You should try some weight reduction bro, It helps your lap times.
@Prince_Pig
10 жыл бұрын
OMG, what a great car. What a shame it doesn't get a presentation it deserves. Come on, where's the excitement, the passion and the drama. Shame.
@Murphy252000
10 жыл бұрын
How about you all stop being jealous and do one! Review was spot on!
@skillsessions8547
10 жыл бұрын
Some of you guys are just mean jerks. I for one find it extremely refreshing there's finally a reviewer that doesn't bother to do all that 'show-offy' drifting nonsense (which doesn't require any real skill to do anyway), because anyone who knows how to properly drive a car would realize that drifting means loss of traction and slower laptimes. Also, since when is the redline the optimal rev range for a car?
@jeffwill4923
10 жыл бұрын
He is staying in the car's powerband/torque curve. I have tried to tell fans of the great LaFerrari also. All these experts on here, youtube should never have any video with dumbs down ever.
@burritomaker69
10 жыл бұрын
You fail haha with a car like this redline or close to it is where most of the power is available. Do yourself a favor and find another hobby that isnt cars.
@skillsessions8547
10 жыл бұрын
Max Power You fail, max torque is already @6K, so somewhere between that and redline is the optimal range, NOT at redline. Do you even sportscar? LOL.
@iKaGe01
10 жыл бұрын
t=5m59s How much wear do those tyres have?! No markings left at all, or are they meant to be slick tyres?
@pjrg6957
10 жыл бұрын
how were any of the cars limits reached? Power slides were provoked and breaking/downshifting seemed too relaxed when cornering
@Iwillfindonesoon
10 жыл бұрын
I wonder which jouno will be the first to get sponsorship from a watch manufacturer? Ha ha!
@robobobo2320
10 жыл бұрын
Stop giving outside views with inside camera sounds, i HATE that, we can't even hear the power of these monsters...
@Maurice_Moss
10 жыл бұрын
He was doing an economy run!
@pamltl.1968
9 жыл бұрын
would have been great if there were subtitles, I couldnt make out 90% of what was said,
@grecoconduris6716
10 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the Speciale in red I thought, they have managed to make an attractive car ugly. But seeing this one in the yellow with the black accents I don't mind it.
@hhharada
10 жыл бұрын
Please, Sutcliffe only!
@afaq123
10 жыл бұрын
who the fuck is this? where is Steve Sutcliffe?
@aniskoko5580
10 жыл бұрын
Big difference between this NEW GUY and Sutcliffe!!!!
@taylor1038
10 жыл бұрын
Thank god they got rid of those whiskers on the front end.
@CarlFreeman
10 жыл бұрын
Great review, well done. Lovely car.
@Techie-B
10 жыл бұрын
Why are you short shifting for most of the review!? It's a Ferrari, it's all about the amazing sound when you are revving the bejesus out of it. Good review, but start the review after the warm up laps.
@chrislaracy7265
10 жыл бұрын
Steve Sutcliffe already did a review on this car, for those saying he should have done it. Ferrari 458 Speciale tested on the limit - is this the world's best supercar?
@redluca56
10 жыл бұрын
I wish they had called it the 458 Tifosi
@juanvga
10 жыл бұрын
How many liters needs USA to get 600 hp
@BlackDog4758
10 жыл бұрын
hahah.that's one good point! !!around 8L I guess LMFAO
@GiveMeABloodyUser
10 жыл бұрын
DBRS007 loooool poor engineering
@kamilkowalski6883
9 жыл бұрын
american build in diferrent technology like corvette engine is pusch rod its ohc instead dohc 6.4 liter engine in c7 is size mf 4.4 liter its verry compact because have less moving parts insideand pusch rod have les hp but mor torque than european engine so c7 have only 480 hp but over 650 nm so if you want more hp give engine kompressor like zr1 you increase hp but torque is allready big so you dont need turbos to increase torque like in bmw
@kamilkowalski6883
9 жыл бұрын
ItsGreat458 Italia tell me have you drive any corvette or cadilac or viper ? if not so how you know that is poor enginering from youtube? i had oportuniti too drive c7, cts, viper and couple muscle cars an if in 2015 willbe new c7 z 06 it will be serious contender too best european supercars americans does huge progress in last couple years and they build qualtty is almoust that good as germans ot japan best cars i am ferrari fan but for less than 100 000 usd you can get 650 bhp corvette its min 50 .000 usd less than 911 and it will crusch cars like 911 or audi r8 buy performance its worth too think about buying c7 instead for exsample r8 or m4 thats my opinion
@GiveMeABloodyUser
9 жыл бұрын
it would be 9.5 liter to extract barely 450 WHP, hahaha i feel sorry for american technology
@NFStheStig
10 жыл бұрын
he said ferrari's taken 90 kilos out of this car but this guy is heavier than 90 kilos so wheres logic?
@GhassanAlHarthy
10 жыл бұрын
Good review, I just wish you revved it a bit more.
@925boosting
10 жыл бұрын
When I read the title driving the limits, I thought I was going to see driving like Chris Harris but was I wrong, really wrong. The review was ok.
@jacobbendah6735
10 жыл бұрын
Is this car a hybrid? Because it gets 23.9 mpg combined
@ChrisDorgan
10 жыл бұрын
Not sure if the editing is wrong but talking about a 3rd gear corner and showing the taco with 5th and low revs!
@ChrisDorgan
10 жыл бұрын
Ah I suppose he was warming up to it.. but still bit weird
@jonathanlarrsson3025
8 жыл бұрын
458 stands for an engine size of about 458 something CC. 4582cc for example. the speciale engine is 4497. does'nt that mean it's a ferrari 450 speciale?
@steeler1168
8 жыл бұрын
458= 4.5 liters, 8 cylinders
@nathanbarrett6692
10 жыл бұрын
He does surprise you around 5 min. mark though.
@kasztan2008
10 жыл бұрын
Nice watch
@AKlover
10 жыл бұрын
What is it benchmarked against? New Z06?
@yugas147
10 жыл бұрын
Changin gear at about 4.000 rpm is going to the limit ??? Hahaha
@SashaExcelsior
10 жыл бұрын
Lol people are shallow as fuck. Thanks for more free and awesome entertainment autocar :)
@ayodeji87
10 жыл бұрын
Just a thought. Would this guy's weight affect the driving experience?
@xsbgtr
10 жыл бұрын
He´s not really driving the car to the limit!!! Should have been done by Chris Harris
@jamesmawdsley7306
10 жыл бұрын
That's Castle Combe not Cadwell Park
@calvingsc
10 жыл бұрын
Can't help but notice his watch. Which watch is he wearing?
@nikkisixx29
10 жыл бұрын
Tag heuer monaco...basically fashion watch
@JohnnyBagvieGolf
9 жыл бұрын
Just so y'all know... sideways isn't the fastest way 'round a circuit.
@keeturbo
10 жыл бұрын
All the things he is saying about the car may be true but it's still more believable when it's coming from a race car driver driving the car.I would love to see like a Seb Loeb or Lewis Hamilton ringing the neck of this car.
@glorious_help
10 жыл бұрын
DO NOT COPY TOP GEAR IN THE WAY YOU INTRODUCE THE VIDEO THEME/TOPIC.. .BE ORIGINAL.. PEOPLE WHO KNOW, KNOW
@eminent0405
10 жыл бұрын
What a car!! nice footage.
@defy38
10 жыл бұрын
We could debate all we want, facts are Ferrari vetoed this track battle, which renders all further debates on performance useless since the point is already made.
@Humance
10 жыл бұрын
Put a fat guy behind the wheel, instantly vanishing the effort Ferrari made to save 90kg LOL
@luca3187
10 жыл бұрын
Please put Chris Harris behind that steering wheel :)
@datnoisev1278
10 жыл бұрын
Stunning car
@dumberfeet
10 жыл бұрын
did ferrari set this one up specially for this test? lambo, mclaren, zonda, koni..., porscha... those are honest car brand... a comparable lambo of the show room will always beat a "stock" ferrari
@TheFireflies91
10 жыл бұрын
The review is a little long and too detailed. But you will improve with time.
@poofgone576
10 жыл бұрын
Good car control.
@nigelT16
10 жыл бұрын
And why you could not do a F430 Scuderia vs the 458 Speciale?
@youngprankster94
10 жыл бұрын
Put it against the SLS black series!!!
@khalid12
10 жыл бұрын
Great Review of a great car. Job well done ...
@jortepap
10 жыл бұрын
430 Scuderia sounds soo much better.
@michaelherron4306
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good review.
@taforth
10 жыл бұрын
Stop talking about how good the car is, and show us instead... Was Sutcliffe sick or something...?
@gthausde
10 жыл бұрын
Only 600 hp? Get back to reality man, most cars on the road dont have even 200hp
@samharper5881
10 жыл бұрын
... And Ferrari say no to comparing it in a video with the 650s. Biiiiig surprise there. Actually no surprise at all if you know Ferrari as a company.
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