It's time to dabble in another famous community I've seen fellow Monster Hunter fans fall to: Final Fantasy 14 Editor: @RaulDaFama #finalfantasyxiv #ff14 #finalfantasy
That is not a right of passage. Your chat got it insanely wrong. The idea is that a Tank has to sometimes put up with bad DPS during party finder every now and then (or a poor tank that didn't know that this stage is not aggro everything), but it's NEVER intentional, that's just mean to do especially when you are suffering through the most boring part of the entire MMO. :p Seriously though the actual rite of passage in Aurum Vale is sprouts not realizing they need to eat fruit and die without knowing why. That's it, really. To keep yourself motivated, dont feel bad about just bee lining the MSQ, this is a very old part of the game that is a slog.
@AkariAisava
4 ай бұрын
I'm in agreement about beelining parts of the slower and weaker msq. Skimming and understanding the general gist of those parts are good enough if you find yourself losing motivation or interest in continuing. Better to get to the parts where the game really starts showing off their stuff than get filtered out by the great ARR post patch Imo. Just an option. Players should play how they want whether that is to read everything or skim thru certain parts.
@Narlaw1199
4 ай бұрын
The rite of Aurum Vale is going through it with people who are inexperienced... not intentionally fucking it up for the sprouts.
@gerikhan1
4 ай бұрын
Never heard of that Aurum Vale "tradition." It's a rite of passage to be sure, but not because people are deliberately making it hard for you. AV is quite capable of doing that by itself.
@umelgaming3177
4 ай бұрын
See there was a *slight* misunderstanding with the AV Run, it was supposed to be a Balls to the Wall to Wall run, (not make it painful for Jay run) but chat was excited for AV and none of the people who were in the group quite understood the intention. We were going to use it as a learning experience for Jay where if he failed we would give him advice but Jay was SUPER tired and it didnt really work out when we tried to type advice he thought we were trolling him. We SHOULD have pulled the plug on AV sent him back to Darkhold or Stone Vigil to get his level cuz even if we took it slow he would not have been in the right mindset for AV it was just not the day to do that dungeon at all
@FireLordVahn
4 ай бұрын
@@umelgaming3177 Mistakes made and lessons learned haha
@gerikhan1
4 ай бұрын
@@umelgaming3177 OK, that makes a bit more sense.
@P4trickSt4rmie
4 ай бұрын
@@umelgaming3177y’all sound like assholes
@NekoBatyx
4 ай бұрын
For members of chat: Kindly remember that everyone only has one chance to get a first experience and first impression. If you don't want that to be ruined for you, don't do it for someone else. Just let Jay experience his dungeons and trials like a normal player would. Otherwise, he'd get a skewed impression of this game. Thanks. ❤
@neminemMaxime
4 ай бұрын
I've restarted FF14 4 different times, can never get far and Jay really sums up why. "It gets good after 40 hours!" Or i can play 2-3 games that are actually good in that amount of time🙄. Anyway. As always, i appreciate your pledges, look forward to seeing you start to enjoy this game ☺️
@ggggg77273
3 ай бұрын
The story of the expansions is still not interesting either, i think people saying that are just justifying endless hours invesrwd in the game.
@KhemBug
4 ай бұрын
For what it's worth it took me 3 **YEARS** to finish ARR from how bored I was... After 4 months I beat Heavensward and it's still my favorite expansion
@AaronMetallion
3 ай бұрын
Been playing for a couple years now, still catching up, and I've had the exact same experience. The MSQ is such a dragggggggggggg. It's 80% filler. I get 1 day off, and spending it on FFXIV makes me feel unaccomplished, and unrested, because I can spend the whole day and that MAIN MAIN story has not progressed at all at times. Like right now I'm stuck in that pixie land in Shadow Bringers and have no idea where the main light warden story is even going.... Been at it for 8-10 hours... just being toyed around endlessly by pixies and having to listen to this clown / circus track on repeat. Regarding the animation engine itself, I almost want a 200% fast forward button for all the cut-scenes. The animation engine has these 1-2 second delays in the sequence of expressions / animations, and it makes the whole cut scene feel so sloppy. When in plain text, the old English doesn't help... makes it a chore to read. I'm also not a political person at all. I hate drama and politics with a passion irl. And here I am, in my leisure... listening to everyone venting and trauma dumping on me about inter-nation politics and drama. Please stop, I'm not your therapist or councilor. I feel fondness for the main characters, but I want the story to be gutted by 80%. When you pay for an xpac, it makes sense Devs would want to packed it up with filler content to make it last months and months. But for someone like me catching up, it feels like I'm being blue balled. There's a hook, and then there's weeks of me doing mind numbing chores for random NPCs. I'm really giving it a chance y'all. I've subbed for two years, and I'm still going. I just got to be honest and objective about my new player experience. The hook for me hasn't been story or gameplay, but the casual content, stuff like doing up my apartment, taking photos, chatting, glamour etc. I've expressed this in a few comments sections and I feel like I'm being cancelled. Old MMOs like FFXIV & WoW, are not really for new players. They're for the one's who've already been on the journey for years trickling through the content in little doses. For new they're really have to remake the story entirely and streamline it, focusing only on the core characters / plot.
@edhahaz
9 күн бұрын
I would say all your criticism is right... I share the experience almost word for word, but I play for dungeons.
@mullucull3r
2 күн бұрын
Yes I really wanted to love FFXIV but the MSQ is such a slog I put in nearly 200 hours last year trying to get into it beat ARR am in the next expansion Heavensward I really enjoyed playing DRK doing dungeons and palace of the dead but I hate the MSQ
@adsventuresome7511
4 ай бұрын
Hi hello. Yes he got his sword AND the Ifrit ax the second time. Chat also did it unsynced so it took 2 seconds. Lessons learned. Don't steal swords and weapon coffers that aren't for you or your class.
@BlueTheInstructor
4 ай бұрын
Infamous now, this will never be forgotten.
@azure4622
4 ай бұрын
:)
@ZectorV1
4 ай бұрын
With this title this is sure to pop off. Good algorithming sir Also for what its worth i only made it through arr because i was playing with a friend, and that was before all the content cutting. Its not really great, but i will at least promise everything you did has payoff later(yeah actually everything, kinda interesting)
@thew00dsman79
4 ай бұрын
Aside what everyone else has said since I haven’t seen it, tanks don’t dictate the pace of dungeons, the whole party dictates it. If the healer can keep up with the tank pulling everything and the dps actually do their jobs, then things go smooth… what happened to you absolutely was not the norm of people doing their jobs
@cynreiusacari3163
3 ай бұрын
If I want to suggest it and I’m healing I always inspect the tank first. My first job was pld and I had low equipment on and a healer read me the riot act. It was helpful and I offer explaining it in a kinder way but it definitely made me a better player. I don’t have a problem playing any job but if I’m doing savage content my fc will offer tips and we’re all good at swapping around. Unfortunately, time doesn’t permit me to try for an ultimate yet but I look forward to it.
@meglo03
4 ай бұрын
I tanked in WoW, and I know it's not FFXIV, but if non-tank party members started facepulling everything in the dungeon as a joke, I would have dropped party and found something better to do with my time. Reading other comments, I can see there were good intentions. And maybe because it was being streamed, it was funny. It just sounds frustrating to me.
@umelgaming3177
4 ай бұрын
no it wasn't funny or entertaining to watch, it was super frustrating. by other comments I assume you mean me so that is what I mean in other comments by "we should have pulled the plug" TBF things were fine for the first boss. That room is just one big room and going to the boss is just painful.... what happened AFTER the first boss however is where things got off the rails and we were trying to get things back on track (those of us not in the dungeon via twitch chat that is) but there is only so much you can do when you are typing in Twitch Chat Edit: Basically What I am getting at is my other comments are meant to clear up misunderstandings so people have the context of the night and what the actual intention was. WHAT ACTUALLY happened though isn't something I will defend and as I have said in my own comment everyone in the FC who is helping Jay in the FF14 journey did get in VC with the man and apologized and explained things to him so he understood that it wasnt meant to be malicious
@meglo03
4 ай бұрын
@@umelgaming3177 I appreciate the response. I'm glad you were all able to explain it to him after the fact.
@umelgaming3177
4 ай бұрын
Putting this here so chat can see it.... 1.) The AV "tradition" is just supposed to be a Wall to Wall run of AV, the dungeon is pain enough. What happened that night was a combo of Jay being SUPER-DUPER tired and the three people who got in the party didn't 100% understand the intention of the run (chat was super excited for AV). It wasn't trying to make Jays life hell, its supposed to be a learning experience 2.) We were going to get BluewaterEZP to be on Call to help explain tips to Jay to improve as the original plan but Blue has been experiencing internet issues and that stream specifically even got DC'ed 3.) We have since realized we should have pulled the plug on the AV run that night as Jay was operating on little sleep and we didn't have a group that fully understood the intention available at the time. We have said sorry to Jay and explained things to him in voice and as a group we have agreed that it is water under the bridge and we will do better.
@Shadar22
2 ай бұрын
The story pacing never gets any better, and anyone saying otherwise has memory holed years of game.
@GameclipUK
Ай бұрын
Game is very boring, I mean I had some fun early game, I collected some mounts & made a cool character & explored a bit, but the end game boss content? Nah…. Waaay too much commitment just to fight a boss. too much studying, not fun. Also the community isn’t as great as players make out, you get scorned heavily for not being practically perfect on boss rotations. Now I’m in a place of meh with this game, no desire to fight those hard end game fights, no will to progress…. I’m done with FF14. Some highlights early game, sure. But longevity wise, not coming back.
@Revonlieke
4 ай бұрын
yea the whole aurum Vale thing is such a dumb thing. It's mostly done as a meme when people join the dungeon and see a sprout. and 100% is only funny for the people doing it, not the one receiving it. It's only funny when you see a full party of people who have cleared the game and fail on Aurum Vale.
@Asmodean1111
4 ай бұрын
From a FF14 vet waiting on DawnTrail, Your in the slowest part of f14 story, and your getting the verison that has been pruned so it was worse. Just keep at it you'll see it pick up again in 2.4ish. Also as a tank main, I would say tanking is fairly easy after changes from Shadowbringers, just take your time and read tooltip, they are in fact there to help.
@Yem1010
2 ай бұрын
We had a team of 4 ppl who tried to get into this game, and no one got to Endwalker...We all finished around Heavensward/Stormblood. We even thought about buying expansion skip/pass but dumped the idea and the game. New player exp is brutal.
@tigaron02
4 ай бұрын
Aurum Vale is one of those locations when I end up healing a newbie I let them go at their own pace, it isn't cool to subject them to a painful experience as a trial of some kind. The story of ARR toward the end is a bit dry but it is mostly setting up for the build to Heavensward so I don't hate it but they could trim it down in a few spots to make it more palatable.
@anteprs7908
4 ай бұрын
it not really bad that bahamut isnt in the msq the truth is all raids arent part of main msq and most player do not like raiding in general and like it to be optional.
@thetrin
4 ай бұрын
I played ARR back when there were no expansions, and I really enjoyed it. No question it has improved in expansions, but back when it was just ARR, I really enjoyed it doing the traditional Final Fantasy story. Now, though, I understand ppl finding ARR a grind.
@crossdaboss8914
13 күн бұрын
First song with lyrics??? Since answers titans theme has lyrics though
@MandiFox
4 ай бұрын
As a sprout as of 2 months ago (just now about to finish Endwalker), this part of the game is the worst. I almost quit honestly. I just had many people tell me how much better it gets in Heavensward and GOD they were right, and not only that but every expansion afterwards gets so much better. Much more voice acting, less fetch quests, more interesting storylines that all tye into each other at some point or another. I genuinly got very attached to all the characters I was annoyed/bored with in Real Reborn. Just keep going, it's worth it!
@vaati500
4 ай бұрын
Kudos to you for sticking through AV because that dungeon can be PAINFUL for inexperienced players. From the person trying to explain the situation in comments and everything it sounds like a rly poorly done inside joke but inside jokes are only really funny when you're in on the joke? There's a huge difference between trolling sprouts on the old Cape Westwind trial where they immediately figure out afterwards what the joke is and a made up Aurum Vale tradition where the joke is.... the sprout having a bad time??
@libertylizard_
2 ай бұрын
The game is a brainless 1 button fest. There isn't any challenge outside of 1% of the highest level difficulty and thats purely down to a lack of familiarity with mechanics not player skill, which has all been removed from the game over time. You'd have to be mentally handicapped as an MMO veteran to have anything to do beyond sleeping through 99% of the game from boredom. So take your clown act elsewhere.
@vaati500
2 ай бұрын
@@libertylizard_ ???? My comment was about this sprout getting hazed by his weirdo free company, the lack of difficulty in the game is an entirely different conversation wtf are you coming at me for lmao??
@crimsonbok
4 ай бұрын
The thing about wall to wall in Aurum Vale is you don't wall to wall Aurum Vale
@warllockmasterasd9142
4 ай бұрын
Of course you wall to wall? I do it all the time successfully too.
@12tanuha21
4 ай бұрын
@@warllockmasterasd9142 right through the middle of first room or left shoulder on wall? If you pull more than 1 group at same time, party wipe is coming.
@warllockmasterasd9142
4 ай бұрын
I go from entrance to the first boss rom, then two groups, then two groups, second boss, then two groups and then the last group and then last boss. I can do this as tank, and I can heal it too as healer. Just a matter of good team work. @@12tanuha21
@leviosdraekion6993
4 ай бұрын
So on top of all melee classes having combos, the dps melee classes also have abilities/skills that have bonus effects or do more damage depending on where you are in relation to the enemy. Also try Arcanist.
@HitodamaKyrie
4 ай бұрын
I'm one of those people who enjoyed ARR to the extent that I've gone back and replayed it multiple times. I kinda miss the quests they cut out from it in 5.3 actually. Glad I was able to play before then.
@libertylizard_
Ай бұрын
The combat is so dumbed down at this point there are dementia patients who can handle playing the healers. No wonder they are all on strike. The game is an insult to those who used to enjoy challenge and job diversity in this genre. It's stale and hopefully a future game returns some sort of effort beyond 'body check' mechs, that ignore personal contribution entirely.
@kainetheslayer4060
4 ай бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, the post game of all the dlc stories are not nearly as long as ARR's post game. Heavensward and its post game could be finished in less then half the time of ARR in its entirety
@acehealer4212
2 ай бұрын
Damn, that was kind of mean of your chat to haze you like that in AV. I was super nervous about going into that dungeon, but it was actually very smooth, especially since I had good gear.
@dswolf9421
4 ай бұрын
oh god ARR is what killed a lot of motivation for me. But im slowly coming back and HS is an awesome experience
@beefofdestiny3773
4 ай бұрын
Hey Jay you're in the whole part of that bog grind level 50 quests take the longest to get through so the story picks up after lvl 51 for sure but congrats getting through Base ARR now to continue to walk through post ARR
@callowguru2611
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I think your FC are just jerks, I've never heard of this "tradition." Aurum Vale is supposed to be hard, not a hazing ground.
@umelgaming3177
4 ай бұрын
read my comment above, also despite what Jay said in his video, only 1 member of the dungeon group was part of the FC the other two are not members of the FC
@Setuaro
4 ай бұрын
If you have an opinion after ARR alone, that's not an opinion, that's just beating the tutorial. Almost everyone (myself included) I know disliked how long ARR took and its age showed, the game is a lot more enjoyable from Heavensward on because the story really starts to pick up and gameplay starts becoming more expansive.
@VizerPS
4 ай бұрын
LMFAO read the chat while his chat trolls him in aurum vale. they go in and pull everything on a new player and then gaslight him, "this is how we train new tanks and healers" "welcome to boot camp mr tank" "this is NOT trolling this is how we genuinely do it" "@streamer shut up and pull. Lmao" great community, btw. hopefully ffxiv takes home some more Best Community awards
@Vulcanfaux
4 ай бұрын
Well, what if we do drag you into aurum vail again? But as a dps, in other words the tanking and healing isn't your problem?
@HeyJayOfficial
4 ай бұрын
This is ok
@BlueTheInstructor
4 ай бұрын
Come Sign Up For MINIMUM ITEM LEVEL NO ECHO Crystal Tower Run next THURSDAY na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/12585649/event/77697/
@warllockmasterasd9142
4 ай бұрын
it gets better once you get through it, and it used to be a lot worse in the past. this is the trimmed version.
@rengeki12
4 ай бұрын
As a veteran already i came to appreciate ARR more, but yeah, its a big barrier for new players... I cant imagine how many just drop the game at this point 😅 Im glad you got to experience more classes and jobs, its one of the wonders of XIV About that aurum vale situation, I think they were just trolling you, never heard lf any tradition like that
@umelgaming3177
4 ай бұрын
it wasnt a troll, the AV run was supposed to be just a standard Wall to Wall AV run the "tradition" is just that AV is hard, we were going to use it as a learning experience but the run kinda fell apart for multiple reasons. I made a larger post if you want more details
@rengeki12
4 ай бұрын
@@umelgaming3177 I see, thanks for the clarification
@stephenregensburg2012
4 ай бұрын
Did the tradition one time, almost made my friend quit the game, chose to never do that shit again, like why would i wanna spend more time than necessary in AV? lol
@vegeta002
4 ай бұрын
Yugiri is an Au Ra, which are not dragons though people often call them that anyway (probably because them _not_ being dragons is never addressed outside of the character creator).
@vladch2016
22 күн бұрын
Story is beyond boring chore its tedious to the point that i quit right after i beat RR.
@katmeerkats
4 ай бұрын
2 seconds in and all I can think is who let him watch the HW trailer? All the 8 man raids are relevant to the story, they just don't have the rquired meteor question icon. I feel like you'd just be madge if they made even more stuff "required" even if they're good content.
@20marzboy
4 ай бұрын
ARR is just a grind to get to the expansions which are amazing
@euphoricganjanath5625
4 ай бұрын
"It feels good to whack things"
@RaidenKaiser
4 ай бұрын
Arr is indeed the most boring part both in gameplay and story of ff14 but it at least has an excuse being the introduction it makes sense somewhat to ease the player into the game. Stormblood on the otherhand has no excuse to make its main story so boring and its gameplay is just as boring up to level 67 where you finally start getting good imperial dungeons again in the msq, there's alot of good content in storm blood but sadly most players will never experience it because they didn't put it in msq they hide it in the optional post game.
@tayalt2406
4 ай бұрын
ARR can be very slow yes, but the game changes a lot once you reach heavensward and even more after shadowbringers. Everything changes, the whole combat, mechanics etc
@rauldafama3046
4 ай бұрын
Sol Badguy
@the_panda_king__7527
4 ай бұрын
Yeah the patch stuff In between ARR and HW is just the worst part of the game imo
@AkariAisava
4 ай бұрын
One day I will drag you into the raids heh
@TheOneGreat
7 күн бұрын
Don't worry, the gameplay will stay as boring. Same with the homogeneous jobs. The story is the only saving grace.
@zbug84
4 ай бұрын
I quit playing 14, but i enjoyed the tanking there way more than I did in WoW. Tanking in WoW made me feel like I was going to have an anxiety attack...
@MerrStudio
3 ай бұрын
I agree, people always say "FFXIV is about the story!" but story is actually not that good, and it is especially bad considering the form - hours of cutscenes with the same repetitive animations and jokes. I also dislike the class identity, or rather the lack of one. Every class plays exactly the same, you have three skill combos, same for AOE, few off GCD abilities, sometimes a movement and that's it. Same stuff with a different color/animation. Most of the time even the damage numbers are the same, it's ridiculous. It's the safest thus the most boring combat I have played in a MMORPG.
@Shysekhmet
Ай бұрын
The nice to new players is a bit of a cap.... they care about noobs they just wont your gil early game you make a bout 2 mil in quest alone most of the time og player bleed new players markets dry of all high end resources and leave whole economy's broken - rafflesia most items that take whole days to grinder end up worth no more than 10 gil and then stuff needed to level sky rocket to 100k lets say your needing help with a raid or simply been in que for too long most of the lobby will ignore you asking for help till you complement their skins or they see a person on their crafter for 8 hrs so they cheer "it " on.
@livingreverie5951
4 ай бұрын
Yeah... "post" ARR is quite effectively the Roughest patch of story in the Game. Is it much better in Heavensward? It's not even fair for a comparison. If you Do want to try something more comedic, you can do the Hildibrand quests which are more comedy and detective story oriented not to mention being the story line that often lets the FF14 team basically "limit test" the engine and let them do more cinematic stuff in the later DLCs
@ggggg77273
3 ай бұрын
I will literally never understand why ff14 players this. The narrative quality of writing never changes. You are still forced into boring dialogue scenes puppeted with mmo emotes in the most uninteresting fantasy. Nothing about the game fundamentally changes in quality.
@livingreverie5951
3 ай бұрын
@@ggggg77273 compared to being a complete nobody with no presence in the story of WoW? I’ll take FF14
@thetrin
4 ай бұрын
Lol, aurum vale continues to be the sprout killer.
@Joeynator3000
4 ай бұрын
Decided to watch this mainly because I'm not a huge SE fan to begin with, I've tried several of their RPGs (both Final Fantasy and DQ, think the ones I've played were all on DS/3DS). I could never get into these games...they were all just...boring...lol
@thew00dsman79
4 ай бұрын
Have you tried out Chrono Trigger? It’s a classic from the 90’s
@Joeynator3000
4 ай бұрын
@@thew00dsman79 Chrono Trigger was pretty much the only SE RPG that I could stay into...but after beating it like...once or twice I lost interest. (that final boss was a nightmare, lol)
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