Since I recorded this while half-sleep, here are things you should take note of in this: - The hardest part was actually finding a 3/3/x Saber node without Demonic or Sky enemies in it (both Crabs and Samurai enemies are demonic and they’re my usual go-to for Saber node). Durga/Kali will stomp her competitions in these nodes no question asked. - You can use Summer Jeanne battery early for that NP dmg buff and get marginally more dmg on W1 and W2. I used it on W3 out of habit. - I forgot to use MC buff on W3 for the Zenobia demo, oops. - You can use 2004 MC instead of Plugsuit Proto Merlin for Helena. As usual, the takeaway is that: Just use your waifu it’s not that deep.
@robinhood6077
Жыл бұрын
Tbh Summer Helena holds up better than I expected Jeanne’s damage issues really showing tho. Oof
@keroro407
Жыл бұрын
Considering Helena is lacking in certain areas compared to the others, and needed another steroid buff, she did hold up pretty well. I mean look at the thumbnail, and Helena looks like the odd one out.
@kidjenson672
Жыл бұрын
But she need lady Avalon meanwhile jeanne wasn't
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
it isn't a fair comparison. Jarcher actually hits about as hard as Kali/Durga at base.
@CaptainOverkill
Жыл бұрын
Damage issues are one of the easier things to mitigate in FGO, you can always dump Grails and Gold Fous and Beast Pawprints into a character if they're your waifu and get them to hit a lot harder. But otherwise yes, JArcher is beginning to look outdated finally, though she held up for a very long time. To be frank, I thought Zenobia's introduction also was a bit of problem for her, because while JArcher has better NP regen, Zenobia is otherwise very close to her in terms of output and capability, and she's just a four star.
@robinhood6077
Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainOverkill yeah, Zenobia especially being non-limited (and easier to get NP levels for) was rough for Jarcher. Jarcher was very good in a pre-Castoria world where you could loop with double Bride and Black Grail, but now that arts looping is more accessible her value as a limited SSR is looking questionable And Helena-being an EoR 4* servant that’s never received a buff and can loop farm, even with plug? I’d say she holds up. See other AoEs released then: Arthur, Danzo, Nezha, Scheherazade, Assassin Nito, Caster Nero (who made a lot of Top 5 lists), Rider Ishtar…Helena was the dud of her banner but many of the above aren’t loop farming without an asterisk.
@VetoShizu
Жыл бұрын
I'll probably stick to Zenobia overall since I plan to grail her to 100 anyway. Kali's NP does look great and Summer Jeanne still look fabulous tho.
@yukio9723
Жыл бұрын
Both lacking damage compared to her but this is about preference so it's fine. They both still good
@faura4764
Жыл бұрын
I also have lv 90 Zenobia with NP lv 3, so even I couldn't get Durga/Kali it's fine, roll her for sakuraface collection. Tan Waifu Supremacy
@otaviolirahashimoto5723
Жыл бұрын
EMIYA chillin on the side
@Mr.Dragoon
Жыл бұрын
I think Zenobia is the best option or at least my favorite. She is a permanent SR so it is "easier" to get her and raise her NP level, unlike with Durga and Summer Jeanne who are limited SSR. Plus, the lower cost for being a SR instead of a SSR.
@suttipansonthom494
Жыл бұрын
I have her grailed90 with np4 can confirm she is great loop archer
@zulhichigo965
Жыл бұрын
@@suttipansonthom494i see we have the same zenobia🗿 huge w
@ryusawaariel6191
Жыл бұрын
@@suttipansonthom494wow,fellow Zenobia enjoyer i see.I have her np4 too and lvl 90.But i will still all-in gacha Durga because i like her art
@thefool8224
Жыл бұрын
i have her np 3, she gets the job done and thats all it matters. im of course rolling for durga the same reason i rolled for zenobia, budgets.
@LokiLiesGod
Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy that Durga can comfortably farm with just one Castoria (I'm farming her own Mats - in a Cavalry node - with Xu Fu instead of my own Castoria and Foumes as the CE). That is pretty much everything I can ask of an Arts looper, since I don't use Arts in events (Castoria is Bond 15).
@ceoofjeanneism6777
Жыл бұрын
People mention Jeanne Archer's damage issue but forget she has 3 damage buff types so her damage can scale higher.... eventually
@Awoken0
Жыл бұрын
Even with the triple damage buff Kali outdamages her on average(even if you include Oberon for both). That Atk stat holds Jarcher back a bit, but the average difference is not that big.
@Aki-hb1jy
Жыл бұрын
You forget her atk stat is abysmal
@KosheiDeathless
Жыл бұрын
Jeanne is Farming Goddess for me and no one will change my mind.
@kaihimura3897
Жыл бұрын
I plan on using Zenobia--where I can--since she is a four star, selectable, not limited and because Aurelian is one of my favourite Romans. It is nice to have a same-rarity alternative to J.Archer finally though. Thanks for the video!
@xgnfhdusb
Жыл бұрын
Zenobia as a permanent four star character ,she's more easier to get and lower cost.I would choose her as my dps for sure
@rubbermarble888
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this with mobs that actually don't have Demonic or Sky traits, people never thought about that at all before testing looping.
@Mike-km9jz
8 ай бұрын
Musashi now be like: "uh, am i supposed to be here right?"
@JeSt4m
Жыл бұрын
Arts loop is fine and all but for Archer class Buster loop is where it actually at. From Gil and Tesla to Ishtar and Tametomo.. they all have ridiculous buff stacking.
@marcokozmann8001
Жыл бұрын
My NP5 summer helena is gonna have a field trip with that buff, I can already see it
@arahaitham123
Жыл бұрын
Has anyone check how Durga loop in irregular node? She loops really great she doesn't need her own battery in regular node. I think that's her main advantage compare to others.
@oldchicken8679
Жыл бұрын
problem with jarcher is that even tho she has better dmg buffs than kali, her base attack is so baffling low at 10,525. still love them both tho
@star-miubin
Жыл бұрын
Using Fou's can bring it up by at least 1-2K.
@BlackCrusader86
Жыл бұрын
Poor Helena, her looping isn't as good as her turbo dueling
@jugemujugemu4690
Жыл бұрын
What
@rezafahlevi9659
Жыл бұрын
@@jugemujugemu4690 Yu-Gi-Oh reference
@galadrielpendragon760
Жыл бұрын
Helena: "You always act like you better than me"
@mrkanjusenpai9171
Жыл бұрын
Everyone comparing them at looping, But i know EMIYA is the best but counterforce(ALAYA) had to nerf him... The world of E rank luck huh...
@sqfzerzefsdf
8 ай бұрын
The new GSSR does better than older stuff????? NO WAY!?8?88!!!!
@uselesshero.official
3 ай бұрын
Where is our Bald math boy/ Proto Shirou tho?
@confusedcat261
Жыл бұрын
Sad day for me today,i just lost both my account because My phone broke my first acc have arjuna alter, avenger nobu, da Vinci rider, muramasa , Napoleon, Dante's And my main have muramasa , space ishtar,morgan,jack I guess I'll start All over again, oberon is the one that I wanted this year anyways, wish me luck lol.
@confusedcat261
Жыл бұрын
The worst thing is i also have a lot of reserve acc there that i collected while rerolling and all of those have good servants, I have like 3 extra acc with arjuna alter that is only at singularity 3
@Enstoc
Жыл бұрын
Just message support
@KapKam515
Жыл бұрын
Yeah message support, it’s really easy just tell them your recent servants that you rolled and your servant in my room
@Zeon081
Жыл бұрын
I once recovered an account with a help from support using outdated transfer code. I was in the same situation as you. I told what servants I had, whom I got first on my account, grails and np levels and other small details.
@confusedcat261
Жыл бұрын
@@Zeon081Good thing i have the screenshot of the past transfer codes that i used i also remember the order my servants and when I got them
@irete267
Жыл бұрын
There's only one quick archer who's an ssr:/ There are more srs but they aren't doing any of them justice
@Aki-hb1jy
Жыл бұрын
JArcher needs NP interlude with SE damage.
@noregrets8120
Жыл бұрын
seems NP2 zenobia can match Durga/Kali
@Twodeegeee
Жыл бұрын
Uhh, did we watch the same video? 735k on the final wave for kali NP2, whereas NP5 zenobia does 478k. It's not even close.
@lemonb9961
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Zenobia Np damage is lacking but she makes up for it with mad crits
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
@@Twodeegeee the video is a bad comparison. Kali has a 22.2% supereffective damage bonus over the other 3 members because of the node chosen.
@Twodeegeee
Жыл бұрын
@@adrastos8401 What are you talking about, she gets 50% bonus on sky enemies and 50%-100% (overcharge) bonus on demonic, neither of which are in play here. Fang clan isn't demonic.
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
@@Twodeegeee the enemy is Earth. She is sky, everyone else is man. So everyone else is doing .9x damage and she is doing 1.1x damage
@rain_lambda
Жыл бұрын
Helena 😭
@Andron322
Жыл бұрын
I'm ok with my NP5 Jarcher.
@jeremy6491
Жыл бұрын
The best one is who you have at a higher np ig since all 3 are so good
@Rosemaryalter2711
Жыл бұрын
See Durga win for sure
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
Yeah with a 22.2% supereffective damage mod. You need a pretty big difference in base power to overcome that big a difference in the node used for comparison.
@Rosemaryalter2711
Жыл бұрын
there's no sky or demonic enemies on this map
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
@@Rosemaryalter2711 there's Earth enemies though
@Rosemaryalter2711
Жыл бұрын
@@adrastos8401 And Durga has dmg mod on Sky & Demonic,not Earth enemies
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
@@Rosemaryalter2711 She is sky attribute, everyone else is man attribute. She has a built in super effective damage.
@nhazulkimonalos9895
Жыл бұрын
Zenobia is second D Kali is first but Kali has Better boss battle potential tjan zenobia iirc(I have both so yeah and I also have Jeanne summer in na but she lacking in damage)
@karnaarjunarama8308
Жыл бұрын
Woodwose: Stop bullying my people! 😭
@WhiteHairSupremacy
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know we only have 4 arts aoe archers in this game the heck, too bad for other classes that doesn't have much as well in QAB
@xNaya
Жыл бұрын
4.5 if you count Emiya. We have way too many (good) AoE Buster Archer though.
@farizahmad3036
Жыл бұрын
Not as rare as quick ST caster tho
@jefffgo7154
Жыл бұрын
@@farizahmad3036 and buster AOE Ruler
@tuvarkz
Жыл бұрын
@@jefffgo7154 We have 15 rulers, 3 of which are buster aoes. It's relatively high considering percentage that of the other 12, 4 are buff NPs, 3 are arts aoe, 2 are quick aoe, 2 buster ST, and one arts ST
@jefffgo7154
Жыл бұрын
@@tuvarkz yes but of those 3 only one is good for 3T, but you are right on the number itself, I was not remembering quetz and amakusa Archer quick ST is more in short supply
@fiqihaliyudin4172
Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna make a video for her dialogue lines? I mean I want to see that if it's not too much trouble... :D
@fiqihaliyudin4172
Жыл бұрын
For Durga/Kali I mean, if you didn't know who I'm referring to.
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
Edit: thanks @ihv2k for figuring out what was going on. 22.2% super effective is almost a niche equivalent anyway. SO yeah, bad comparison as I said, just not for the reasons I thought
@xNaya
Жыл бұрын
No, they're not.
@BiriBiri925
Жыл бұрын
This is indeed an unfair comparison, but for Kali, not for Jeanne. Because if without traits (like this video) Kali just hits harder, then with traits she hits much harder. Literally 2.5 times.
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
@@BiriBiri925 except she doesn't, she hits 16k an enemy harder without traits (with class advantage), that's nothing
@lhv2k
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it isn't really fair, but it's not because of niche, as they don't have any of Durga's niche. The reason for the big damage difference is due to both of the enemies being Earth attribute, so Durga would have attribute advantage against them by being Sky, meanwhile Jeanne is Man so she'll suffer from attribute disadvantage instead. Since attribute is a supereffective modifier, combine it would result in Durga having an extra ~22.2% supereffective damage over Jeanne, on top of her already having slightly higher damage on neutral, hence you'd see the difference here, not because of any niche.
@oldchicken8679
Жыл бұрын
dude those are not werewolves, they're fang clan members and they're not demonic
@lordtea
Жыл бұрын
Xnaya is a good master Never interrupt someone dates 😂
@fgojpnameme1175
Жыл бұрын
Archer Buster 4* Lasengle ?? 🙁
@BananaDouji
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes zeboobia errr zenobia NP are the Coolest
@CantwalkJoestar
Жыл бұрын
Emiya.
@todoroki_2219
Жыл бұрын
Jeanne D'Arc-her wins
@barghest8763
Жыл бұрын
jeanne archer got power creeped 😭
@adrastos8401
Жыл бұрын
No she didn't, Jeanne has 8k less damage on neutral but slightly higher np gain. how is that powercreep? Having a 22.2% effective damage boost over Jarcher in this video is because of a bad comparison video, not the base performance of the servants
@sezzomon6625
Жыл бұрын
She did get powercreeped by Spishtar, Sumer Kama and Summer Ibuki already in terms of farming.
@DRainbowNeos
Жыл бұрын
Time for Recce to commit more *unspeakable atrocities*
@Jordan_Morgan
Жыл бұрын
Whats that cardboard doin with kuro's CE?
@M4ST3R1TSUK4
Жыл бұрын
We still need more Arts Archer.
@micienz
Жыл бұрын
Men this class is so good especially when they actually consist of an ARCHER 💀
@Wildbom
Жыл бұрын
Sooo do I roll for big milk cannon Kali/Durga or Oberon?😢
@strongppman
Жыл бұрын
oberon 10 out of 10
@HolyChalice
Жыл бұрын
If you’re on na I would def cop Oberon
@DallyLama93
Жыл бұрын
I know Jannu can still loop quite well, but my coomer brain will use Kali
@detherocablest7054
Жыл бұрын
This bum seriously used Roma’s theme for Zenobia…..!? You’re not going to heaven, you know that? 😂😂😂
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