"...and this is where i put my np5 dps servant IF I HAD ONE!"
@lordtea
Ай бұрын
Welfare units: u had me don't u
@nabi7701
Ай бұрын
To be fair Np5 is not that much of an increase most of the time. The jump from Np1 to Np2 is bigger than the jump from NP2 to NP5. So NP2 (sometimes NP3) is what peak performance is for a servant. Though ofcourse NP2 isn't exactly easy to get either. But it's a lot more achievable than NP 5 which is pointless most of the time (NP4 to NP5 is a 5% increase in dmg)
@orga7777
Ай бұрын
NP2-3 is more than enough most of the time. Only NP5 people you REALLY like. Once Morgan comes back in November, I will get the last two copies I need for NP5. However, I don't plan to do that again until probably Aesc next Anniversary.
@xolotltolox7626
Ай бұрын
@@nabi7701 wrong the jump from NP1 to NP2 is exactly as big as the jump from Np2 to NP5
@nabi7701
Ай бұрын
@xolotltolox7626 Depends on how you look at it. If you're just looking at how much the modifier increases additively, then yes it's the same. But that's not the practical way to look at it. A more practical way is to see how your dmg has been multiplied by. NP 1 to NP 2 is a 33% increase to dmg or a 1.33X multiplier. But NP2 to NP 5 is a 25% increase or 1.25X multiplier. Basically just an example of diminishing returns. The more you have, the less effect adding the same amount has.
@ivanbluecool
Ай бұрын
So to sum it up. 90++ gives a lot more imagination to the comps while giving some bigger rewards overall to clear events sooner
@asmmahfuz8569
Ай бұрын
It's more complicated than that. Sometimes you have to use non event CE like Black Grail to farm 90++. In multicore, you might end up using 2 non event CE. If you can farm the 90+ node with 6 event CE, you might end up with more rewards than 90++ that require 1-2 non event CE.
@MuhammadKharismawan
Ай бұрын
90++ is made for people who actually want to play the game, while 90+ is just brain dead button mashing at this point as most are doable with many variations not necessitating you to change teams for any of the events, while 90++ you can do them 6times a day, refining the turns eatch day by optimizing the team with the rooster you have.
@justawanderingoldman7699
Ай бұрын
@@asmmahfuz8569 Agree. I'm an NA player only. But from our current 90++ Quest, there are no difference in drop numbers on 90+ and 90++. The only difference is the bond rewards. And maybe the CE drop rates? I got 3 CE drop already from 90++. Anyway, so if the choices are doing 90++ but with less event CE OR doing 90+ but with full 6 event CE, as long your goal is for farming the event materials, then 90+ is more efficient.
@asmmahfuz8569
Ай бұрын
@@justawanderingoldman7699 For bond farming, in the future, in about 6-7 months, we will get dedicated bond farming nodes. So, there's really no point in trying too hard for the 90++ nodes. Farm 90++ only if you can, don't push yourself.
@uzumakiyuuki3454
Ай бұрын
90++ is a node where you can use Bond farming.. I am use Bond farming and the reward already almost empty and only nearly 4 million visitor
@ivanbluecool
Ай бұрын
Fgo: no way they can three turn this Fgo players: you don't truly understand our power
@lordtea
Ай бұрын
@@ivanbluecool Me the metaless: hold my xufu and loli vinci (but super hard though)
@ivanbluecool
Ай бұрын
@@lordtea truly powerful. I do enjoy the overcharge effect units
@TokuHer0
Ай бұрын
I've said since 90++ started to find their footing after introduction: "90++ has no 'One Size Fits All' solution" Every 90++ requires something different and it's about understanding what's in your Chaldea, what counter traits/special damages you can exploit, and putting the team together to make it work. "Have the Right Servant for the Right Quest" and "The Best Solution is the One That Works"
@PlushieMistress
Ай бұрын
I apologize for the sloppy video, I am currently in the process of moving to a new apartment so I threw this together very quickly.
@joebyne6061
Ай бұрын
It’s fine still helpful all the same plus gives more insight into 90++ and helps me and my 5 month old Chaldea
@altheapolyam
Ай бұрын
Not sloppy at all, thanks for your time 🥰
@vongolashodaime1975
Ай бұрын
I also agree that it is not sloppy at all, more concise and to the point than most of my college lectures I tell you that
@ThermalVoid
Ай бұрын
It is all good. You did speak your hot take which is the essential.
@magnusmadsen3813
Ай бұрын
@@joebyne6061 Comment if you need a veteran on your support list
@Zictive
Ай бұрын
I honestly love the idea of multicore setups. Gives ST servants a lot of relevance outside of just CQ or Story Nodes. And as someone who likes to utilize his entire box, im pretty excited.
@magnusmadsen3813
Ай бұрын
Multicore is way more fun to experiment with! Reminds me of the old days farming with Arash, Spartacus and Waver lol. Im mostly eyeing multicore servants in the upcoming banners instead of singlecore which I already have plenty of options of.
@jergarmar
Ай бұрын
This first 90++ node is a perfect example of what the video is saying. I thought any saber would work, but I ended up having to put Morgan and even Dioscuri away, and go with Summer Hokusai. Wasn't expecting that.
@Astavyastataa
Ай бұрын
I’m trying to use her but in having trouble. What’s your comp?
@jergarmar
Ай бұрын
@@Astavyastataa Standard OP combo of double Castoria and switching into Oberon.
@Astavyastataa
Ай бұрын
@@jergarmar alright thanks. I’ll try again
@Zytyx13
Ай бұрын
Being able to use Saber Astolfo outside of boss nodes for the recent NA 90++ node was a lot of fun
@Rywen
Ай бұрын
Thanks for making this. It’s been weirdly hard to find specifics of what multicore farming actually is although the term is everywhere these days.
@cwaluk
Ай бұрын
Basically fgo is reverting back into the play style before Skadi single core meta came in, but with much better supports and dps with higher party buffs and charges
@tribopower
Ай бұрын
I enjoyed the single node waves, hope we have more of them in the future, it allows for more servants to shine for farming
@lamiaprincess6371
Ай бұрын
I personally have super mixed feelings about 90++ nodes in general. I do agree that they're a lot more engaging than farming normal nodes typically are because it really does become a question about how far you can extend your roster, and often leads to really novel ideas. I need a LOT of Hero Proof's still (skill mat requirements in this game are a fucking nightmare), and I was practically tearing my hair out trying to get the most recent Hunting Quest 90++ quest to work for me. I then realized that the first and third waves were all Bronze enemies and I could just use Nitocris with the Amakusa CE (the one that gives +2 OC 3 times) and not care about their health totals. It was cool and really lowered the ceiling of what I needed to do. But it is worth noting that a lot of people find these nodes super inaccessible and it's not hard to see why. If you're missing one of the key meta supports, these nodes become significantly harder than before to do. I don't have Oberon and that often puts several nodes in past events out of reach for me. You do get to sometimes use Servants that you normally wouldn't in farming nodes, but often the selection of ST DPS you can use are really slim. About 65% of the time I just end up feeling kind of bad as my main solution to one of these nodes has been to pack my NP3 Kriemhild. It's great that I have her, but not everyone is going to. Hell this account is going to be nine years old in November and it still has an NP1 Carmilla and Heracles. BUT this all being said, I do think you bring up good points about how it doesn't really matter if you three turn these nodes or not. It is technically the most "optimal" but most event have extremely hard caps on the amount of value so the time you spend isn't really relevant, and F/GO showers you in AP restoring items literally all the time. You don't even need to do the nodes, just do the nodes you can actually do efficiently and it won't make much of a difference. I think I've warmed up on them over time then when they were introduced but I definitely do still feel the tinge of annoyance when it's clear what is stopping me is not having a very specific piece (usually Oberon lol). (Also: Arash / Habetrot / Soujuurou are so much your friends for doing this. If you can get them to delete a wave for you, you essentially get a wave cleared AND a free plug suit switch. It's great, I love these Servants so much lmao.)
@farizahmad3036
Ай бұрын
I mean, thats why they also added the 90+ nodes, which are slightly easier but also gain slightly less drop items. 90++ nodes its not mean for everyone, especially those who have less servant and CE options (f2p, newbie, etc). I already play this game as an f2p for like 5 years, and sometime in an events i prefer to farm in the 90+ nodes instead of 90++ nodes due to me not having that much option (i dont have oberon, skadi summer, and lady avalon. Also despite having mlb BG, most of my DPS units are either NP1 or they already bond +10). Theres still also the 90 nodes which is way easier than both 90+ and 90++, so for those who dont want to think that much on a farming and already have the looping team comp for it can still farm. Honestly, if you just dont stuck with your ego and have more patient, farming would be much easier than you thought it was since they already give so much option for it.
@lamiaprincess6371
Ай бұрын
@@farizahmad3036 Oh yeah absolutely. I enjoy the challenge of looking at a node like a puzzle and trying to figure out how I am going to make it work, but a lot of the time I can't find a solution easily and I just go "fuck it, who cares, just farm the easy node instead its going to take like 100 more AP or something"
@nevisysbryd7450
Ай бұрын
I do not find them more engaging. It but makes the farming more convoluted and thus more tedious. It is still sheer repetition of a puzzle with a dominant strategy.
@helios2664
Ай бұрын
Also if you’re worried about 3 turning but can’t, there’s still the 90+ node. Slightly less drops but you don’t lose out on efficiency.
@Flaris
Ай бұрын
Admittedly 90++ does kind of sound like a pain in the rear. But normal farming is always still an option. At this point in the game it's not like I need anything (maybe besides some more QP) so much that I'll tear my hair out trying to put together some ideal 90++ combination for each event. 90+ should be fine most of the time unless I feel like pushing my luck. Thankfully this one wasn't a big deal. Just had to replace supporting Melusine with double Koyan+Oberon to using double Castoria.
@GeorgeMonet
Ай бұрын
Except the devs will tailor the costs of everything to the 90++ node.
@rey890
Ай бұрын
True, I finally got to use my arts Melusine after all this time. From what I have seen the two next 90++ nodes are going to be just a nornal buster Melusine set up and nothing super special.
@rey890
Ай бұрын
@@GeorgeMonetThe difference between 90+ and 90++ is so small that 6 Ce 90+ is usually better than 5 Ce 90++.
@farizahmad3036
Ай бұрын
In my cases, the classes gems are way more painful to collect than the QPs.
@GS_CCC
Ай бұрын
@@GeorgeMonetthat is just false tho. We even have an extra week to do events.
@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686
Ай бұрын
Labing out the 90++ is the most fun I had in farming this whole time as a long time player, makes me appreciate the rest of my roster instead of just the usual farmers that I have
@QyTheQTpi
Ай бұрын
I agree with your take that 90++ brings more creativity out of the player (if willing to do so in the first place). I tried making a video about current NA node with some "easy" comps and quickly realized there's more ways to tackle that than could possibly fit into a vid. You could make "blueprint" comps that fit a bunch of similar units like Hokusai / Dioscuri / Trung / Hajime etc but even then there's so much difference between each unit under the surface you could make way more optimized setups for each one, not to mention how NP level differences can change your support options even more. It's a clusterfuck lmao but at least an interesting one
@Paurlt
Ай бұрын
God I can’t wait for next Guda event on NA Iyo my beloved
@janekge6761
Ай бұрын
How many boxes do you need to farm? YES
@Ayumu31
Ай бұрын
i agree, at first i hated it that after all these years of forcing us to loop they do this but then i realized its actually better since it lets us think and innovate new ideas and makes the gameplay less dull than constant looping. Tho i suppose once u graspe the trick it will become dull sooner or later as well.
@4tan730
Ай бұрын
A fair amount of 90++ are also designed to “showcase” the new SSR or welfare. Eg. the next two GudaGudas with Iyo and Saika, Karnamas rerun has a divine boss for Vritra, Nemomas with wave of Casters and a Super Large boss, etc.
@videoanon
Ай бұрын
90++ is really amazing. It allows even servants you wouldnt think would be used for farming viable. Did I think I would ever manage to use Aoko ever in one? no, but somehow last event she was the only one I had that could viably clear voyager.
@caseyhurst6267
Ай бұрын
90++ has been cool so far, i felt looping has been dull for a bit so it was nice to finally get to flex a bit with black grail oberon and my np4 zerk vlad. i already knew i would have a easy time specifically with this node but its nice to see my fav shine.
@henriquebecker4453
Ай бұрын
I think that the one big problem with 90++ nodes is that it requires you to have high investment in many different servants. Regular farming allow you to run many e-sports servants as support and even low star servants as your main DPS, but on 90++ the game practically forces you to use solely 5* servants since the base attack of the low rarity ones is just that much lower in comparison, resulting on your party cost getting too high to run CEs optimally for event farming.
@PlushieMistress
Ай бұрын
Just take 4 turns
@tygerchase9705
Ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but outside of fan wikis you actually won't be able to check enemy traits outside of hitting with the Anti's. I think that's the one downside to 90++ I think It would be great if you select the enemy (after first attempt) on the mission screen and actually see what weaknesses they have. It makes it so we aren't solely reliant on trial and error or fgo wiki.
@muhammadshafek9788
26 күн бұрын
Agree that they should actually indicate the enemis traits and attribute ingame cuz no way in hell id be able to figure that out by myself :’( I dont even know my servants allignment and what not lol. Something like a data bank where you can check all past enemies you’ve encountered and all their related information😂😂
@inkling2533
Ай бұрын
The idea of "figuring out a comp based on your roster that can work for a node is satisfying" is exactly how I felt when I was still getting my feet off the ground. It felt really rewarding taking a look at everything I had and finding something that would work for lotto nodes and such.
@eile4219
Ай бұрын
The first NA 90++ is actually super easy, i just use welfare Hokisai. Don't even need any new units at all.
@mrsheldon9134
Ай бұрын
The next 90++ might be even easier, since it's only 2 waves meaning you can afford to sacrifice some NP charge for more damage skills.
@nevergonnagiveyouup7267
Ай бұрын
I just used my np2 saito
@eile4219
Ай бұрын
@nevergonnagiveyouup7267 I think many teams works. Even OG saber for buster team, but it Will need newer units. I use Hokusai for min-max bond, that's it.
@nevergonnagiveyouup7267
Ай бұрын
@@eile4219 yeah any ST saber or zerk can clear that it is so easy. I can also use vlad iii but I don't want to because he already has a maxed bond.
@DevoteeofMamaRaikou
Ай бұрын
@@mrsheldon9134That one in fact incentivises you to raise the welfare and max her skills. Can be done without Oberon, but... it's RNG reliant.
@TrueBladeSoul
Ай бұрын
Alternatively there’s good ol’ stall Heracles bond ten with double Merlin
@Elfishjuggler33
Ай бұрын
90++ helps to force players to diversify their roster from just meta farming supports. While researching comps for the fae cup, I found one that uses iyo, Santa Martha and castoria
@vongolashodaime1975
Ай бұрын
Amazing video Plushie and combos well with Khadroth's, gives me a new perspective and an appreciation for 90++, instead of a Whale club it's actually a clever way to make us bring servants we would never bring to farming, well to farming, like : anything else if you have omni loopers, or, especially, single targets. Not meant for 3 turning everytime but not gatekeepy either, focused on AP efficiency instead of time efficiency, and above all else something you could do perfectly if the servants required to do so happen to be amongst the ones you have.
@the_wake_
Ай бұрын
Farming events has been so much more fun/interesting since 90++ waves. It's not like the execution is that much more time-consuming, and actually looking at my roster for interesting solutions to the varied problems is a lot more fun than looping. And making so many more Servants relevant to the 99% of the game that is farming really adds a lot of variety and gives you more opportunities to use your pet Servants. Plus, 90+ is never that big an efficiency loss that you get super punished for dropping the difficulty.
@nephel6158
Ай бұрын
Ngl the 90++ nodes allowing for the event to be easily cleared with natural AP is nice because means I can use inconsistent setups that can be bandaid'ed with command seals if the correct cards don't come
@bml2200
Ай бұрын
Great video, I was just thinking that there hasn't been anyone to make one to address 90++. I like the 90++ when using my main account since it has everything but my F2P account struggles. Everyone is focused on 3T them but I'd rather optimize bond farming while doing them, hence I'll just 5T and not plugsuit anything.
@KRP71390
Ай бұрын
I’m already starting to see the ‘experiment’ draw… I hadn’t realized how well Galatea synergizes with Oberon with her ramping NP damage buff on NP, as I was still mostly thinking of Oberon as Buster specialized, and haven’t been using his S3 much in farming (no point if the enemies are gonna die anyways without it). It also led me to finally maxing Castoria’s A2, since I noticed that would let me NP for free in a Double Castoria + Oberon set up, which I expect will get a lot of use going forward Still, having TOO many options can also be a pain. I have way too many Servants to properly raise all their skills, and it can be hard to pick who to focus on in order to get the most mileage. Hearing Arjuna A can get through most things is something of a relief in that regard 😅
@shrathora
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I think you got the ideas across very clearly. Maybe you can go over some more archtypes of 90++ farming and/or Multicore methods as we get more 90++ nodes for both NA and JP.
@MrKingHyena
Ай бұрын
as one of the people with an NP5 grailed and Foued Morgan i openly welcome more dynamic farming configurations. i miss the old days where id have to make use of servants like Raikou and wor around the lack of charge because i needed her anti trait to hit the threshold, it was fun, i felt accomplished figuring out how to 3 turn those nodes. but lately most nodes are steamrolled by Morgan and while the convenience is nice, it leaves me wanting, ive kinda relegated morgan to the position of "last resort" to force myself to engage with the game. Hell ive loved farming artic summer because of the 1/1/1 node, I've been 3 turning it using Musashi using crits to round out the turns, its fast, 100% consistent, and delightfully novel, i very much look forward to more interesting farming nodes that give me reasons to use more of my roster
@azkon7975
24 күн бұрын
I like having 90++ nodes because, like you said, the teambuilding aspect of it is very interesting. Before, complex teambuilding was basically relegated to Challenge Quests. Challenge Quests fail to scratch the interesting puzzle solving teambuilding aspect of FGO because of a few factors: - It's a one time thing. Sure, it can be re-challenged but without any rewards after the first clear, it just feels like a waste of time. I'm a believer in playing games for the fun of it but unfortunately I need to spend my time farming event currency before the event ends in the brief 10-20 minutes at a time I can pull out my phone. - Most Challenge Quests have some really wacky, weird, and jank mechanics and it's sorta an added mental burden when the mechanics are too wacky. Like, this servant can only killed if the sun and moon align at the zenith of the hyper-dimensional wave oh-woops-you-just-soft-locked-yourself-out-of-victory. Better withdraw and try again! - Sometimes Challenge Quests are just about luck, annoyingly. Sometimes the boss just randomly purges your attacker's buffs and you can't do anything about it. - Sometimes I just blow three command spells to get a one-up and just get it over with. I find Challenge Quests fun but I'm only ever motivated to do them once. All other time alotted needs to be in farming or going through the massive story text. I get a little bit of enjoyment out of optimizing regular farming comps but that doesn't last long because, as you said, my ability to just brute force the issue just kills my motivation to optimize. What's the difference between doing 700k and 1mill if my targets only have 100k HP? I'm already getting sufficient overkill bonuses. 90++? Finally, a challenge that doesn't feel like a waste of time to repeat and a reason to reach deeper into my roster instead of the usual suspects. Sometimes I almost wish I had a much smaller roster of Servants just to feel the thrill of being forced to innovate. But 90++ will do!
@Style_eric
Ай бұрын
Praying that my np1 Spishtar survives all the powercreep.
@ucmanhvuong4301
Ай бұрын
She got power crept into 6ft under the ground. Her most viable color is blue, and she’s now either 4th or 5th place. Her buster has never been that extraordinary and she has fallen out of top 3 by now. Her quick ver is an absolute joke.
@Gonzora
Ай бұрын
Ah, my sweet SUMMER child...
@dzigayu4944
Ай бұрын
If you're talking about using her on 90++, she's only useful to clear one of the first two waves since she doesn't need to soak up batteries with her large self NP charge, but even with a cracked copy of Space Ishtar she can't really kill the 1 Million HP final node, so you'll have to spec into multi core set-ups.
@lokrj
Ай бұрын
Uhhh
@ivanbluecool
Ай бұрын
Well if mine wasn't bond 15 she'd work just fine at full max of everything np fou and grails. Though she gets another banner soon so you could probably invest in more copies
@lllHot_Waterlll
Ай бұрын
Farming 90++ Nodes? I go Max Bond CEs with suitable Event Servants for Maximum Bond Gains.
@dsenvy
28 күн бұрын
*1-1-3 90++ exist* Melusine : *ahem*
@shendelzarescathach1674
Ай бұрын
With this summer event for 90++, Ive been face carding for wave 1, usually takes 3 turns and then blowing all of my buffs for wave 2 and 3. Usually ends up taking 6 turns Since I don't have any of the meta supports to 3turn loop.
@Harbinger359
Ай бұрын
90++ sounds like a throwback to the days when all you had to 3-turn with were Waver, Merlin, and whatever DPS units could get the job done. I remember a Nerofest where I ran Lartoria, Kiara, and Double Waver to farm one of the main nodes.
@LSMadness
Ай бұрын
I agree, I personally love coming up with a brand new team comp for each 90++. Not to mention, more often than not, I'll pick a lower rarity units to fill in the puzzle due to their higher np level.
@personontheinternet1981
Ай бұрын
I feel like I have some options for 90++, but I don't have the necessary widespread of SE mods to fully clear a lot of them. Oh well. Is what it is. I have experience building specialized teams for specific 90+ nodes, I'll just adapt as I go along and hope my friends can carry me some of the way. Speaking of traits, damn you Charlemagne and not being weak to Enuma Elish.
@elihuvalentin4073
Ай бұрын
There is a solid structure to thinking behind clearing 90++ nodes. The amount of health the enemies have is literally equivalent to some of the part 1 bosses. This is lasengle's attempt to power creep the game. The part 1 bosses were hard, and now we literally farm them. Im looking forward to how 90☆☆ will influence the power level of the new servants lasengle will put out
@woodstock179
Ай бұрын
Had alot of fun this 90++ with my Hokusaber finally stretching her dps farming legs after unlocking her mana loading and getting her lvl 100 to 6 slot Enkidu :)
@altheapolyam
Ай бұрын
I've been waiting for the 90++ nodes for so long, like the game was dull for me at this point. Now I'm not even thinking on farming right now, like the shop is cleared but I'm just experimenting with different teams and sets and it's fun af 🥰🥰🥰 so happy of this new inclusion
@manoi8
Ай бұрын
I actually like the crit servants strat. It's basically a servant can do 2 NP and 1 big crit card turn. This current summer event I run NP 5 Rama with Koyan + Oberon. With MLB Damage CE he can do 2 NP and 2 Big crit, so it's possible to do 3 turns most of the time
@justawanderingoldman7699
Ай бұрын
I just experienced my first 90++ quest in NA, and sadly I have to drop my dear Morgan for now. Summer Hokusai (with dmg CE) + Double Castoria + Oberon is the way.
@vladimircaelum7465
Ай бұрын
I think that it would still be good content, even if it's just explanation of the new 90++ node like what traits the enemies have that you can take advantage of, what the enemy wave composition is, what Servants you can recommend for that particular node. Please remember that people are generally too lazy to go look at the wiki as clicking at a new video "how to beat the new super farming node" is just so much easier.
@Iron_Prince
Ай бұрын
I like 90++ content a lot. It’s a lot of fun to experiment and work out a viable team with what you have, and if you can’t make it work 90+ is still there for you. It’s like a little farming CQ to work with.
@CaitCU
Ай бұрын
I actually love 90++ nodes because it gives you a challenge and makes you use servants you wouldn't normally pick for farming. It's a lot better imo than just cookie cutter looping
@bleach4k239
Ай бұрын
The latest welfare zerker in JP is probably one of the best additions in multicore farming.
@moebamba4658
Ай бұрын
Souujirou is literally God tier, I'm actually baffled they made a free unit solve many farming problems
@user-mg4rc1qw6w
Ай бұрын
I usually face roll 90++ with np5 lvl100 Arjuna Alter. if he can't deal with some of them and if I don't have valid options for multicore I go with 90+ since it's super easy and FGA won't mess up there
@Alphagammabeta
Ай бұрын
it's easy, just have Hyper Grailed Arash, Gong, Habetrot, and SonoG :'v
@daniru2505
Ай бұрын
Currently at NA's 90++, I use summer Hokusai with 2 Castoria and Oberon. I agree that tackling this topic is difficult as it really depends on the node and your lineup.
@tsukujam3080
Ай бұрын
The lesson here is to learn to play more than 3 turns unless you can 3t it
@tsonic73
Ай бұрын
I've done a few 90++ nodes in events recently and tho i can't 3 turn them(well i was able to during one event can't remember which one tbh) once I've beaten it i go back to the regular nodes in the events and just run those, if you effectively want to 3turns these nodes you need the meta servants/CE's and your dps has to be atleast over lvl 90, skills maxed at 10,10,10 and just know the line up of the enemies you're facing once you know the line up just go
@nightingale74
Ай бұрын
When I heard of 90++ 2 years ago I had been worried but now in practice it's really fun and a good qol (for me personally) cuz I get burnout easily from FGO farming moreso than other games. Like this summer event in NA is the first event in a long while where I managed to grab everything from the point ladder AND the shop WITH the fact I don't feel as burnout after the event.
@MelancholicDays
Ай бұрын
KKO with very high investment junao is still a solution that fits very often, especially since plushie talked about event CEs being 50%. my 100 2k np5 junao with event CE hits in the range of 500k, 600k, 1mil per target with event CE. 250/400/600 k with cranking. i can still be braindead. mostly. i know not everyone can or wants to do it but it is still possible
@Truck-kun11
Ай бұрын
THANK GOD that I got Oberon during his first banner because there was NO WAY that my NP1 Dioscuri would be able to kill that Enkidu with 1 million HP without him. I really hope this first 90++ isn't the standard for what's to come
@prrrusssia
Ай бұрын
I farmed all 90++ (except the one with Voyager) with single core np4 120lvl 2k fou Arjuna Alter with 50% charge event ce or cranking. You can call me boring, but he is one of THE hasubandos for me and I'm glad that I don't to have to think a lot about comp
@kamuinoyume
Ай бұрын
You can absolutely loop 90++ with Arjuna Alter. You just need to crit either wave 1 or 3, and considering he had 3 buster cards and Koyanskaya for stars it's very doable. On JP I never used multicore, I just looped 90++ with AA
@cryogenicstardust9245
Ай бұрын
rip to the players that only get 5★ Servants at NP1
@vongolashodaime1975
Ай бұрын
Or just don't 3 turn it, it ain't the end of the world.
@AssailantAttacker
Ай бұрын
90++ is fun, farming was so boring to do now am using krim single target here with this event
@jup9618
Ай бұрын
(NA) im farming the 90++ with 2 aoe summer servants (ibuki and okitan)
@almogwaingarden8006
Ай бұрын
I used to just avoid the challange. But lately I found an easy and fun answer: aoko
@grailedrobin
Ай бұрын
How is aoko doing turn 1
@thewhyzer
Ай бұрын
My hot take (and you did mention it): "Unless it's a lotto, I'll just go full 6CE even if it takes 6-9 turns." My NA Summer 2024 90++ team: Support Castoria / Summer Hokusai / Summer Jalter / Proto Merlin / Summer Ibuki / Summer Valks. 5 Bond CEs + Beginning of a Journey for cost reasons. I was using currency CEs until I cleared the shop enough that I didn't need them anymore.
@dammit3048
Ай бұрын
I spent 600 quartz and only got np5 erice and soooooo many fucking craft essences, but ironically it feels like the gacha system is sentient and messing with me. I lvld up erice fast and unlocked her starting charge and anti lancer append and now I'm just using double castoria with nero bride on with the damage CE on her and the 90++ node has been a breeze
@Zeon081
Ай бұрын
90++ almost makes you feel like devs want you to PLAY the game instead of setting up FGA and afk the farm.
@MoreEvilThanYahweh
Ай бұрын
If they really wanted that they'd let us speed up the game more than 2x and create an option for abbreviated NP animations (I know they said they'll never do a true np skip)
@nevisysbryd7450
Ай бұрын
If they wanted you to do that, they would add in a main content style besides farming.
@Mangoscats
Ай бұрын
I’m just hoping my np2 Arjuna alter + crane, double koyan and Oberon can continue 3 turning 90++ nodes.
@Gonzora
Ай бұрын
I can tell you that my np3 lvl 102 2k/2k Godjuna couldn't do the most recent one on JP. Edit: But hey, tbh Lasagna put Voyager in this 90++ just to force us to play a dps that isn't a berserker.
@PlushieMistress
Ай бұрын
The recent one is foreigner no? Its natural that he cant do it
@sharkmanro
Ай бұрын
The party cost tho
@eile4219
Ай бұрын
@Mangoscats Arjuna need 50% np charger to open up.more options. Or give him ans skill upgrade for additional 20% np
@tribopower
Ай бұрын
You can't even slot 5 5 star CE's with that... its just pointless at that point
@jimmyv5494
Ай бұрын
You guys are making 90++ comps? I’m just using unga bunga zerks and criting everything to death. But yeah, I love how varied your comps have to be and being able to actually use other servants you never use or even use ST servants for farming which has never been a thing before. I love it :)
@DaberuzJuega
Ай бұрын
Or... I can not farm the 90++ and chill at the 90+ 😗
@Flaris
Ай бұрын
I hear you there. I may clear the 90++ once for the apple and that'll be it in each event. It's farming. Fine to have it be nice and chill.
@tincture.
Ай бұрын
@@Flaris 90++ reward is 200 mana prisms it doesn't give apples
@keinkanal7382
Ай бұрын
I've never used saber hokusai before summer arctic, but she can easily clear the 90++ node alone which im greatful for, I hope i will be able to use more servants thanks to 90++
@moebamba4658
Ай бұрын
I know that this is somewhat of taboo subject that many players are allergic to, but crits help tremendously to allieviate pressure from : -NP level : youre not in need of as much NP damage if youre integrating crits, reducing the investment cost of a farming comp -Battery CEs and/or charging supports : if you theorycraft a comp well (and we have tools for that) you can build a team that does a full crit turn on either w1 or w2, which is huge because youre saving an entire 100% gage. This boosts your AP efficiency in case theres event CEs without charge, and helps you save on bond for chargers. Of course, not many do this because "ew crit rng" while in reality a well thought out crit multicore (single core is bad because you only have 5 good cards, sometimes less) can allow you to have mega reliant farming, but it does make farming very active which can be exhausting for some
@Toro-rd8wb
Ай бұрын
Im actually like 90++ it makes me think more
@Metropoliszone
Ай бұрын
The arctic summer 90++ was me just using Santa Karna for shits and giggles but as someone who took a break before Oberon came out, the rest of this year looks very scary to me.
@Aioross
Ай бұрын
The argument of versatility in team building goes out the window if you can't do it with f2p servants. If you can't then you're gating less invested accounts.
@yellowdeceiver4818
Ай бұрын
yea its pretty fun to figure out how to farm 90++ nodes with helpof like what othe rpeople are using
@Glonag
Ай бұрын
My Saito np2 WORKING this event, used Arturia all the time, and then I got Lady Avalon and he is cracked with double Lady Avalon and Castoria, 3 turn, last np deals 1 mil -1.2 mil
@AkiRa22084
Ай бұрын
Me drowning in 700+ gold apples: Who cares about AP efficiency?!!
@clemmmmmental
Ай бұрын
90++ is the place the servant i never use shine
@Zwei-II
Ай бұрын
I have a friend that has a Summer Hokusai like me, I also have her 9/9/9 and NP5 but I wasn't able to 3T farm the 90++ Enkidu node like him. And it felt interesting because even tho we have the same dps as me he was successful becaus he had both Oberon and Castorio and I didn't. But instead I had access to Triple Skadi system and Karna Santa, and I can do it that way. (Sure i cannot auto battle fga with karna because i don't have enough battery to spam np each wave but I can beat the node easily with face cards on the first or second wave, while enkidu dies from a single np with mlb event ce)
@THill1221
Ай бұрын
My np 4 Arjuna alter will slaughter all 90++.
@pingufan1239
Ай бұрын
Here it is, the big brain video for the sweats
@kosmosXcannon
Ай бұрын
I just want to be able to bond farm my higher rarity units that I like. Seems like this forces me to take them out to deal with the node now. Would like to increase the team cost cap if they are pushing the game this way.
@asmmahfuz8569
Ай бұрын
About the last part of the video, these are called farming because of a reason. It's not an official name. It's a term created by the players. So, basically, we aren't playing the game by farming. This is why most gacha games has auto farming system.
@GeorgeMonet
Ай бұрын
We are ABSOLUTELY FARMING. Doing the same node over and over again to accrue drops is the definition of farming in a video game.
@nevisysbryd7450
Ай бұрын
@@GeorgeMonet You misunderstood. The point is that farming is tedious grinding and not gameplay.
@bennyhuang2014
Ай бұрын
Ppl be doing this now while my meta casterless ass was doing this already back in the day before I got castoria lmao. Funny enough, I haven't played the game since I got castoria but it's cool to see what they did with the farming nodes.
@dzigayu4944
Ай бұрын
Yeh, I'll stick to plain old 90+
@PlushieMistress
Ай бұрын
I mean i encourage trying stuff out, especially when 3 turn clears are not always required. For example the rikyu tea event has a rlly good 90++ where iyo is the best dps for it
@Zictive
Ай бұрын
At least try to experiment with stuff before throwing in the towel on 90++. You might be able find something. I'm currently using my NP2 summer Sei for the 90++ in NA, and she's clearing quite fine without Oberon (btw my Sei isnt Grailed or Gold Fou'd, she's absolute baseline with 9/9/9 skills) I'm using double summer skadi + waver. All I need to do is crit down the 1st wave, which is surprisingly very consistent with summer skadi. Heck even a Summer Skadi Brave chain can kill the 1st wave 😂. I'm fairly certain other servants are able to clear it too if you follow the same logic. Santa Karna, Saber Diarmuid, Okita, Saber Astolfo, etc. I dunno about future 90++ nodes, but for now I'm pleasantly surprised it's not as "insurmountable" as I thought it would be.
@cwaluk
Ай бұрын
@@ZictiveMine is NP3 with append 2 open but with no grails and I use the mage assoc. MC to reshuffle cards so I don’t need to plugsuit
@dzigayu4944
Ай бұрын
Maybe I could try harder, but I lack both meta supports as well a good variety of specialized damage niches, whatever I tried just ended being more inefficient than just 3 turning 90+
@grildrago
Ай бұрын
I love the current 90++ node At least I want more 1/1/1 node. Too many st servants that I wanna use for farm
@nevisysbryd7450
Ай бұрын
Farming is still dull. Regardless of how complicated it gets, it is still grinding. Once you solve the puzzle of how to overcome it, it becomes grinding again.
@shuouma7120
Ай бұрын
The only thing I know for real is MULTI TRACK DRIFTING
@kyubbikcat2281
Ай бұрын
Me with NP2 Summer Nobunaga to consistently 3 turn clear Arctic Summer 90++ 😎
@vicarsol9954
Ай бұрын
90++ is such a good breath of fresh air. I love that it expanded the viability of the servant roster. As F2P with a veteran account, being able to optimize comps with all the servants I've collected for almost a decade feels really good to do than just thinking of brute forcing by defaulting to a 3 turn Buster, Arts or Quicks single core support shell.
@homunculusenvy7961
Ай бұрын
Just crit 100% star Ez
@sentryion3106
Ай бұрын
Truthfully 3 turn only matters in lottery. There’s an argument for going down to 90+ if you can’t 3 turn 90++. In lotto events the limiting element isn’t ap, it’s time. Outside of it you can just 5 turn it or something since realistically you are farming a node 5-6 times a day or hell 3 for that matter if you are a busy person
@rh906
Ай бұрын
Also for people that have lives beyond waifu jpegs.
@nevisysbryd7450
Ай бұрын
@@rh906 People constantly putting down looping efficiency consistently miss that most people do not enjoy farming (read: grinding) to begin with. For most it is a repetitive time sink that acts as a barrier to entry for the game due to the absurdly high time investment expectations.
@user-mt2cb3zb2n
Ай бұрын
Exactly. 3 turn farming 90++ only matter twice a year. In lottos only
@Zeroux_Official
Ай бұрын
90++ did open alot of new way of farming like you wont know about instant death or arash loop if you still stuck on 3/3/3 low hp enemy haha
@severren1095
Ай бұрын
Seems difficult to hit the damage if you dont have oberon I just have reines castoria tamamo for supports. Do have np2 melusine and np2 kriemhild and a mlb bg
@PlushieMistress
Ай бұрын
You can look into less “meta” units you have in your collection and you kight find surprising units with anti trait that works vs specific nodes. Oberon helps but you dont always need him
@Zictive
Ай бұрын
Its still going to depend. I'm currently using double summer skadi + waver and my NP2 Zerk Sei is doing just fine with the 90++ in NA. My Sei btw isn't grailed, or gold fou'd. She's absolute baseline 9/9/9. Try experimenting for a while, you might be able to find somethings that work without Oberon.
@severren1095
Ай бұрын
@@Zictive Probably double castoria either reines or tamamo. Probably reines for battery
@AlejandroBravo0
Ай бұрын
While it is cool making farming more interesting, I still find it sad that instead of having more CQs and more replayable interesting fights we are doubling down on farming being the absolute main content of the game Not that I was expecting anything else at this point but still
@weisstofall2615
Ай бұрын
I honestly really enjoy multicore farming, a lot more than regular farming, and that is in part thanks to the 90++
@abbashashem9289
Ай бұрын
I wonder if insta death on some servants can help in farming 90++ nodes
@sensainarutoable
Ай бұрын
But... I like the one size fits all solution of 90 and 90+ nodes. It let's me farm with my waifus all I want. And you're nuts if you think I'll do anything that requires more then 3 turns 😂
@nguyenchanhthanh2602
Ай бұрын
My concern is can you 3T 90++ with a lv100 and NP1 or NP2 servants using mutilcore system?
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