I think they should replace some of the "copy and paste" tanks with experimental tanks. Kinda sick of seeing italian chinese and japanese shermans
@shawnjohns1187
3 жыл бұрын
You know Sweden is going to get a Sherman at some point tech tree or not, but yeah I agree with you
@zzzzUS
3 жыл бұрын
Wait till we get F-16s ;)
@shadowraven3253
3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy the chinese tech tree is goin to be one huge experiment then.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
3 жыл бұрын
@@zzzzUS or Fulcrums
@gearz2570
3 жыл бұрын
im sick of getting bombed by chinese P-47s
@VengineerGER
3 жыл бұрын
Paper tanks are fine as long as they are somewhat grounded in reality.
@cuchococh4977
3 жыл бұрын
This. As long as it was once designed in paper and was a realistic design is fine by me
@DefinitelyNotEmma
3 жыл бұрын
Blueprints are fine imo. But "an idea" or "a proposal" are not enough for me. When there was a real blueprint showing its doable I'm okay with it. I also don't understand people who dislike Prototype vehicles, since Prototypes are awesome. Like the T58 155mm heavy gun tank.
@poplee6478
3 жыл бұрын
If htye were designed and actually possible, lke the tigers and stuff probably wouldn't have been as effective as they are in War Thunder because of their trasmission and engine problems and production. But it could happen, its not unrealistic for a panther to be ineffectve, but something like the p 1000 Ratte I wouldn't be okay with because htere is now way it could possibly reack those speeds. Even if the Germans were able to build the exact blue prints, it doesn't seem possible
@SkyFlaks
3 жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmma just googled T58... holy shit
@nahuelleandroarroyo
3 жыл бұрын
Drwbacks shoudl be modeled, one russian prototype airplane premium is a botched design because it could not fire and have the engine on at the same time, in WT thats no longer reality, which makes it a good plane
@willbradley3201
3 жыл бұрын
I hate when people say it “ruins the immersion”. Common dude we’re basically playing king of the hill in a bunch of tanks with no infantry support, this game isn’t meant to be completely realistic.
@8492nd
3 жыл бұрын
A game has to be either 3 things: Realistic Balanced Or fun Do warthunder fit in any of those 3?
@northropi2027
3 жыл бұрын
War Thunder has always been a TF2-esque mercenary war fighting with salvaged technology at varying stages of antiquity at some point in the near future to me.
@willbradley3201
3 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely fun (at least in my opinion) but for it to be realistic or balanced it would probably need some extensive reworking.
@Martel_Clips
3 жыл бұрын
if advance to the rhine was realistic there would be 5 tanks per team and about 500 infantry support open maps could be "pure tank battle" as the infantry stay a bit further back to not be engaged by tanks
@kousand9917
3 жыл бұрын
well just think of infantry would be added it would not be good cause if any players spawns in infantry they can do almost nothing against tanks and would die a lot and for tanks if they do get into positions its hard to kill them so its just annoying
@splatterberrystudios8392
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't mind paper vehicles as long as they serve a purpose. As an example, we'll use Sweden and Italy. Italy has a medium tank line made mostly out of Shermans and doesn't have many indigenous mediums. They did however make full size mock-ups of potential mediums such as the P.43 and P.43 Bis. In this case, the tanks exist to fill a tree with more indigenous tanks rather than merely copy pasted tanks. In Sweden's case, their medium tank line is small and doesn't contain many vehicles. They also made designs for vehicles such as the Pilen and Pricken, and eventually created full size mock-ups for their Leo and Lansen concepts. For both of these trees the tanks serve to fill gaps in the tree with indigenous vehicles, which I am all for.
@strv2909
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I have a similar opinion to this. It makes sense and would help out a lot for minor nations that need it.
@splatterberrystudios8392
3 жыл бұрын
@@strv2909 Exactly My Point.
@zjanez2868
3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe custom made hack job tanks from other parts(stuart with 75 mm german anti tank gun for example
@tomoe6108
3 жыл бұрын
@@zjanez2868 I think you're missing the argument
@novusregnum
3 жыл бұрын
Hard agree. I’d much rather see a nation with paper, indigenous vehicles than copy pastas. Of course, I don’t think there should be too many. Paper planes are another matter, but honestly they could be premiums or something
@pleuston9221
3 жыл бұрын
Dude half of World of Tanks’ tech trees are completely made up lol
@btratemylegs.6342
3 жыл бұрын
That’s why it’s trash
@ItsDavieman
3 жыл бұрын
@@btratemylegs.6342 the game isnt trash, nor is it good in my opinion it is in a constant state of power creep
@hahapain.4521
3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsDavieman imo both war thunder and wot are in the same state
@markacostajr.1584
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Left wot and WT seems to be following suit
@1SaUI
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely why I despise WoT, among other reasons
@yosefvonhansom2921
3 жыл бұрын
"The Italians are designing a super heavy tank in the midst of their country falling . . ." Laughs in Japan's O-I
@kirishima638
3 жыл бұрын
The O-I is a post war fiction. It is 100% made up.
@kantaikessen3289
3 жыл бұрын
@Miguel Mauro Why would they even build it. It would be useless in China, useless for island defense, useless for home defense.
@krixtorei
3 жыл бұрын
@@kantaikessen3289 The same way they built the Yamato only to keep it away from harm as much as possible then have the audacity to ask for it to be beached in order to be used as a bunker in the defense of Okinawa rather than actually fighting on the sea. The japanese were coming up with all sorts of silly ideas as they were backed to a corner; it wouldn't surprise me if they ever built a O-I only to ask for it and the crew to serve as a semi-mobile bunker regardless of how sane or not the idea was.
@grimalkin6676
3 жыл бұрын
@Miguel Mauro They were not built but Jodie is wrog,they are not made up there are VERY FEW mentions of them that survived the war and atleast 3 illustrations of them but not much else. I do not believe ay prototype was completed but there are notes for the armor thickness to a degree and the caliber of its guns.
@justarandomtechpriest1578
2 жыл бұрын
@@krixtorei the yamato actually had use tho
@Aloso930
3 жыл бұрын
“3 decades ahead of them” R3: laughs in dogshit
@SirenHead00
3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@hubertgizinski7962
3 жыл бұрын
Or china spaa at 4.3
@John.McMillan
3 жыл бұрын
I tell the enemy team where the flanking R3s are every game. They ruin my fun, I ruin theirs.
@AveragePootis
3 жыл бұрын
@@hubertgizinski7962 ye but the ZSD isint decades ahead im game, it dosent even have NV even tough it should have
@hubertgizinski7962
3 жыл бұрын
@@AveragePootis and it has 120 ammo magazines ans reloads 40 seconds so u are decenceless most of time And it cant fo 80 km/h R3 should be 6.0 same with falcon Just remove apds ammo from falcon Its dumb its 7.7 and at 8.0 u jave radar spaa And at 4.0 u have super bad crusader with 40mm
@darkon1126
3 жыл бұрын
" If Italian engineers sat down and designed a superheavy tank in the midst of their country falling" WW2 Germany: hold my beer
@juliocesargabardo7520
3 жыл бұрын
change for germans and have the MAUS and E100.
@m1a1abramstank49
3 жыл бұрын
If it’s to fill up a nations tech tree, add balancing benefits and seem grounded I could care less what we have. Nations like Japan and Italy are very squished in terms of what vehicles they can hold so extras can balance hem out with the big 3
@DefinitelyNotEmma
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, who needed Italy? Or Japan??? Many people could live easily without them.
@ImThatKidMike
3 жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmma with japan I can agree but with Italy they have such a unique standpoint on what vehicles they have I feel like it was well worth adding them
@m1a1abramstank49
3 жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmma Ah yes, keep it at the same nations without some sort of diversity.
@VaduzLmao
3 жыл бұрын
Italian vehicles are only americans now
@jkriz6346
3 жыл бұрын
@@VaduzLmao have u seen the chinese tech tree lmao
@mouser7436
3 жыл бұрын
If the amx-13 was historically accurate
@Martel_Clips
3 жыл бұрын
if the amx 30 was historically accurate
@mouser7436
3 жыл бұрын
No 13
@mouser7436
3 жыл бұрын
The amx-13 series
@Soobovic
3 жыл бұрын
how "unhistorically" the AMX in WT it is?
@gasupplisson
3 жыл бұрын
@@Soobovic firsr of all the loader was forced to go outside the tank in order to reload the autoloader
@SlavGod47
3 жыл бұрын
WT: "noooo it'd ruin my immersion!!!" WoT: Haha 40k Space Marine Predator tank goes pew
@centurionmk.1365
3 жыл бұрын
WOTB
@vanquilknight6270
3 жыл бұрын
Haha Double Barrel tank go boom
@NotKameron
3 жыл бұрын
Haha grave digger go yatatatatatatattT
@thef2pgamer500
3 жыл бұрын
@@vanquilknight6270 hahaha triple barel tank go boom boom boom
@boss9mustang404
3 жыл бұрын
hehehehe OBJ 430U go hurrrnurrrr
@Darktotaled
3 жыл бұрын
ill never accept historical accuracy as an argument if the same people arent arguing about the r3,ebr and other shit clapping ww2 vehicles
@sqooter2
3 жыл бұрын
The R3 T20 isn't from ww2 nethier is EBR 1957
@arussian_spy
3 жыл бұрын
Historical Accuracy =/= Historical Authenticity. I would much rather have the latter. Vehicles such as the EBR would be pretty much useless if they were to fight T54s T55s M47s and M48s due to the performance being nowhere near the same. The EBR would honestly only be a 5.7 vehicle at best same thing for the R3.
@essexclass8168
3 жыл бұрын
@@tigerzhua real world timeline would screw with a lot of things due to surplus tanks being used in wars after their initial one and real world unbalance eg: T-34s and Pz IVs vs late cold war and 20XX tanks , Ha gos v M4s and T34s, KVs v Pz Is and IIs, Shermans, Chafees, Stuarts and MBTs in the same battles etc. and as for perfrming close to real world counterparts, Warthunder's 3rd person and universal reticles more or less ruin that already
@LeavingGoose046
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone likes those dude. You're preaching to the wrong crowd.
@jeandelacroix6726
3 жыл бұрын
they want historical accuracy until you have to fight a B1bis without HEAT and APDS it never had to face.
@chieftain108
3 жыл бұрын
I really want the P.43 designs to come. It would bring some native designs to the Italian mid tiers.
@alexisrom1944
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the p43 bis and p43 ter designs are cool
@andywang7034
3 жыл бұрын
Spookton, it might help those who are not tank nerds if you put some pictures of what tanks you are talking about on top of the background gameplay if possible. Just a thought.
@FMHikari
3 жыл бұрын
Google it. Just a thought.
@RD-nz5gj
3 жыл бұрын
Yesss. I play war thunder, but im only 5.7 in sweden tanks. All of the tanks in sweden i didnt even know before. Even in america, my knowledge only goes to the pershing, skips for a long ass time, then theres the abrams. It would be very helpful to even only add a pic to know the basic knowledge
@FMHikari
3 жыл бұрын
@Сергей Владимирович Таборицкий Perhaps.
@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632
3 жыл бұрын
@Сергей Владимирович Таборицкий did someone call for hell on legs?
@thomasconrad7998
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@theScottishKoala
3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree when it comes to “paper” tanks, but aircraft that were never even prototyped I hate - their performance might as well be pure fiction, because while top speed and turn rate can often be reasonably estimated, the rest of the aircraft’s performance will only reveal itself in actual flight tests. As such - fuck the R2Y2’s. 😂
@vectormwendwa8513
3 жыл бұрын
R2y2s are expensive as hell , to a point where it’s rare to see them on Air RB . Oh but let’s add a sea hawk / F-89s to the game, totally balanced. Y’all bitch about paper vehicles, when some vehicles are too strong that they break the game.
@martijn9568
3 жыл бұрын
This or when they were barely prototyped. It just leaves too much space for Gaijin to fill up and when talking about planes with a special kind of configuration, the flight model should reflect that configuration, and it's weaknesses. And not just a "normal" flight model, skinned over the prototype. I think they did eventually change this for one of those strange vehicles, the Ho 229, to reflect it's flying wing better. I am not sure if they have already gone around to do the same to the XP-55 and J7W1.
@vectormwendwa8513
3 жыл бұрын
@@martijn9568 What would be better ? Remove the R2Y2 , and give japan the P-80 or any American aircraft ? R2y2 V2 , V3 tho fictional is better than giving japan America jets. Do you want P80 vs P80 matches ? I honestly wish gain would lower the repair costs of these jets because they are averagely good not OP like the F-89!! It funny how youtube content creators turn a blind eye to broken vehicles break the game, then when gain add a new paper vehicle , they start complaining . Repair costs R2Y2 V3 - 23, 703 lions F-89D - 9,300 lions P-80 A-5 - 18, 759 lions MiG-9 - 8,560 Lions
@theScottishKoala
3 жыл бұрын
@@vectormwendwa8513 Never "turned a blind eye" to the F-89 - I've been asking for it to be uptiered same as everyone else who wants balance... That's just not what this comment is about. Try to keep on topic, yeah? But the R2Y2's shouldn't even be in the game at all. None of them were even put to blueprints, let alone mocked up or prototyped, and the V2 and V3 weren't even real at all! Complete fiction made up in the 70's by a sci-fi author if my memory serves. The V1 was outlined as a concept to upgrade the R1Y1 with jet engines, but never properly designed. Really none of them should be here, and it's not necessary for Japan to get anything foreign to fill their place - just end their bomber line at the G8N1. There is no need to insist on Japan having jet bombers, Italy has none and it's not as if they're suffering for lack of them
@vectormwendwa8513
3 жыл бұрын
@@theScottishKoala Sry if i sounded disrespectful, no hate. So removing them from game, leaves japan with the Ki-200 (Which is 8.0) and the Kikka, from there we have Basically F-86 sabers. I know that the Ry2y V2 , V3 never truly existed such as how the Ho 229 was never fitted with Mk108s. But Adding them gives Japan variety in play style. If you have time, pls make a video on alternative aircraft / tanks that gain could add to minor nations to fill in the gaps.
@trainingdays
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve polled the War Thunder community over the last week on this topic and found some very interesting results. I will be making a video about it shortly. Would you mind if I mentioned your opinion on the matter in that video?
@RD-nz5gj
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, your the one in my reccomended
@trainingdays
3 жыл бұрын
@@RD-nz5gj Did you like the video? (I mean enjoy it just to clarify)
@IMP_ROM
3 жыл бұрын
@@trainingdays I watched one of your videos. Pretty *nice.*
@astrotrek3534
3 жыл бұрын
Hey your videos have been getting pretty big recently. Good job m8
@RD-nz5gj
3 жыл бұрын
@trainingdays Yes, yes i did. Though i havent played sim battles in WT, your content is pretty good, and you kinda made me want do it
@torinn1698
3 жыл бұрын
Man F for some of the veichles that were used that no longer exsist Holy crap this comment blew way up thx for the support. Also RIP FCM 36 a d PO-2 as well. May they be 2-OP in heaven.
@niki6853
3 жыл бұрын
That sucks.
@niki6853
3 жыл бұрын
@Artik Rest in peace,hundreds of rare bulgarian air force aircraft...
@Lucas-vv7lw
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't get the chance to research the panther 2 and Maus 😭
@torinn1698
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas-vv7lw i got the maus during the evetn when it was given away again awhile ago
@lechendary
3 жыл бұрын
@@torinn1698 you mean the event of a few months ago?
@Shore1985
3 жыл бұрын
Some italian engineer after too much pizza and red wine amidst the invasion of his nation: You know what this country needs A S U P E R H E A V Y T A N K
@IMP_ROM
3 жыл бұрын
@Miller Lorenz Sadly, no Super Heavy Tank has ever seen combat.
@matthiuskoenig3378
3 жыл бұрын
@@IMP_ROM be that as it may, italy still designed super heavy tanks in the interwar period, armed with 203mm guns
@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632
3 жыл бұрын
@@matthiuskoenig3378 nani the fuck?
@sgt_delta5565
3 жыл бұрын
ah yes... heavy tank..... ON HILLLS
@IMP_ROM
3 жыл бұрын
@@sgt_delta5565 You mean, MOUNTAINS.
@exoterminator-01
3 жыл бұрын
I'm fine with them as long as they're balanced for the BR they're placed in. For simulator battle though I only want tanks that were used in combat, even if that means that large parts of tech trees can't participate. Maybe they could make an option for simulator that allows only those vehicles
@kleiton__
3 жыл бұрын
My opinion is something like: Arcade: blueprint tanks out the ass Realistic: blueprint tanks that make sense (ie: the country could build them at the time, the motor isn't exaggeratedly underpowered to the point where the tank can barely move up a slight uphill, etc) Simulator: only tanks that saw at least two battles
@andrewe.2464
3 жыл бұрын
@@kleiton__ I'd argue arcade should have the same restrictions as the realistic battles, mainly because of training rooms lol
@lazarus2691
3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of limiting sim, seems like the best way to appease both crowds to an extent. Those of us who want prototype and paper tanks can play arcade and realistic (aka arcade+), those who want realism can play sim.
@AlexNV75
3 жыл бұрын
Me playing arcade, oh yeah, uh don’t ruin my immersion! 🤣
@Pururut
3 жыл бұрын
I do believe drifting around corners with a tiger is indeed immersive
@lepathewarrior4445
3 жыл бұрын
@@Pururut Can Girls und Panzer be considered as a secondary source
@Pururut
3 жыл бұрын
@@lepathewarrior4445 clearly
@ethanedwards422
3 жыл бұрын
@@lepathewarrior4445 your telling me girls und panzer isn't a accurate depiction of tank combat in 1945???
@theonlyknight3171
3 жыл бұрын
"If Italian engineers sat down and designed a super-heavy tank, in the midst of their country falling..." _Hurriedly hides Il-Duce_
@treefittyfoh1562
3 жыл бұрын
"Captured Vehicles" are more of a problem than paper. What is the point of dividing things into countries then give country X some of the best vehicles country Y has to use against country Y. The same is not done in kind for country Y with Country Xs vehicles even though clearly country Y captured country Xs vehicles. To say its because country Y didn't use captured vehicles doesn't excuse it either because neither country could use "paper" vehicles yet they are in the game for them to use. Do away with all captured vehicles.
@troutwarrior6735
3 жыл бұрын
Lol did you see the picture of the captured American tiger2 from the battle of the bulge? I don't think gaijin would go that far. . .
@illyrian44
3 жыл бұрын
Whats the point? Money. Gaijoo loves money
@men5crumm
3 жыл бұрын
@@velaikka that's a warcrime lol
@jeandelacroix6726
3 жыл бұрын
@@men5crumm warcrime panther : * sweats *
@rottenspooks3518
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeandelacroix6726 wdym, that's an m10
@caeruleum780
3 жыл бұрын
I necessarily am ok with fictional tanks, not that Im saying we should has a R3 T20 with a sturmpanzer cannon, I mean by experimental tanks that were built in small numbers and were prototypes like the Luchs
@sgt_delta5565
3 жыл бұрын
sooooo yes on the R3 chassis with a field gun... on it
@MrFreebrowsing
3 жыл бұрын
@@sgt_delta5565 but we have an R3 with an AMX turret... At br ~5.3? (panhard EBR)
@TurboImpaler
3 жыл бұрын
i mean luchs wasn't a prototype cuz 100 of them were built :)
@agentsly3858
3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that fictional vehicles do have a place. I feel like keeping these relics of engineering/concept alive is good for history. take the Hellriegle from bf1, that weapon had like 2 pictures taken of it and none were of the opposite side of the gun, but it still fits in well with the rest of the game, even though bf1 wasn't realistic what so ever.
@Dinoplank
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the p1000 ratte in WT it would be crazy
@RoKKr023i
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking along the lines of how cool would it be to be on a mission to go fuck one up.
@MrGhjkl63
3 жыл бұрын
A crazy big target
@deonuzumaki676
3 жыл бұрын
It would be a cool April fools event.the whole team against a ai ratte
@vandansonkar7819
3 жыл бұрын
Tactical nuke incoming
@deonuzumaki676
3 жыл бұрын
@@tigerzhua yeah something like that
@potatojuice5124
3 жыл бұрын
I want paper tanks for one reason: low tier France! WoT has some very interesting French vehicles
@ArturoLopez-ly2pn
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I found it very underwhelming when I saw that almost all of the mid tiers were Shermans 😔
@thesnazzycomet
3 жыл бұрын
WoT has very interesting vehicles in general
@potatojuice5124
3 жыл бұрын
@@thesnazzycomet true
@mlc36tva14
3 жыл бұрын
Tbh all u need to do is look at Japan, China and Italy's trees and realise that some paper or wooden tanks have a place in the game
@unnecessaryammorack
3 жыл бұрын
Yes the AMX 40 (duck tank) in war thunder would be interesting. I feel like the armor would work wonders
@ODST1I7
3 жыл бұрын
The casual snipe at 2:30 is so spicy, bro. Hot damn.
@majorborngusfluunduch8694
3 жыл бұрын
I am open minded to fictional vehicles, so long as they fit performance-wise in the period they come from. I see games like War Thunder as a potential opportunity to see how such vehicles could've performed had they made to it into service and I'm always a bit saddened when I see people take such vicious stances against them. I completely understand the counter arguments and I most definitely understand Gaijin's habit to fuck up things that should be really cool, but I dunno, I'd still be very interested in some cool paper designs.
@snazzydazzy
3 жыл бұрын
And people complain that Germany is Suffering, but Japan can't even get a lineup past 4.7
@germansherman9395
3 жыл бұрын
@@snazzydazzy excuse me? Japan has a good 6.7 lineup. And holy fuck have you seen their 8.7 lineup? 2 type 74, type 89, type 87, uh-1b, f-86-30.
@snazzydazzy
3 жыл бұрын
@@germansherman9395 Oh I know they have great lineups, but awnser me this. How do you get to them in the first place?
@snazzydazzy
3 жыл бұрын
@@germansherman9395 You are only looking at the higher tiers like everyone owns it. You have to understand that some people got wedged right at the start because they couldn't get another tank to pair up. I had to spend eagles just to get past 5.3, only to get stomped in my Sherman.
@germansherman9395
3 жыл бұрын
@@snazzydazzy shouldn’t have done that. Get premium or a premium. Never spend ge on research/sl.
@s-400triumf9
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the Ho ri Cardboard and the Ho ri Wooden mockup
@BeikokuZenmetsu
3 жыл бұрын
Hwaet?
@kirishima638
3 жыл бұрын
The Chi-Nu II that everyone loves is even more fictional. No way can that gun be supported by such a small turret on a such a small tank with zero performance penalties, never mind a performance buff.
@s-400triumf9
3 жыл бұрын
@@kirishima638 bc had the same thing
@plagu3tank836
3 жыл бұрын
@@kirishima638 That's because the Chi-Nu II isn't the correct version in WT. It actually was a Chi-Nu hull with a Chi-To turret and gun mounted on top of it...
@kirishima638
3 жыл бұрын
@@plagu3tank836 Correct but even that would never have worked. Well maybe as a barely mobile bunker.
@macnuke4771
3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I like the idea of having “Paper” tanks in WT. I like the idea of thundering down the street in a 100T colossus that is wildly impractical and absurd. I think it’s just fun. It gives us another vehicle to use when we’re bored of the grind and just wanna try something goofy for a change.
@Glebasik148
3 жыл бұрын
no please
@crockylocky7531
3 жыл бұрын
no go play world of tanks
@radi0w4ve
3 жыл бұрын
I think playing with prototypes or planning phase tanks is actually really cool. Immersion doesn't really exist with no infantry and basically capturing points so as long as they aren't magical or hyper ultra advanced, why not? :)
@AceTheMM
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Something like the O-I would be an interesting vehicle to play.
@germansherman9395
3 жыл бұрын
So they can put it at 7.7 and have you fight heat firing light tanks that outperform you... sorry they tried that with the Maus and I cry every time my friend in his is-4 says “can you take care of the Maus” when I’m in my type 62 because my small gun gets 300mm penn heat at 6.7
@vinex9385
3 жыл бұрын
I first thought that the video was just going to talk about all the fictional vehicles present in War Thunder (like the Panther II and Ho-ri Production) and why Gaijin added them.. but the video was actually talking about why fictional vehicles should be or should not be implemented in War Thunder, a surprise to be sure but a welcome one ;)
@ravenouself4181
3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Yugoslavia: I WANT IN! LET ME IN!!! Gaijin: How bout NYET!? Yugoslavia: DAMN IT!
@unnecessaryammorack
3 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting this forever. I couldn't be bothered about "muh immersion." I just want the Fv215. 183mm gun and workable armor sounds like fun
@Frozander
3 жыл бұрын
All I want is to play Lowe in WT. Maybe in 2 years when Gaijin has finally added all possible vehicles into the game and eventually turns back on their word about paper vehicles. They wouldn't surprise me since they always do, "No jets", no supersonic jets", "no naval", "no battleships", "no modern tanks", "no helicopters"...
@MikeBison_
3 жыл бұрын
Lion gang
@ivanmonahhov2314
3 жыл бұрын
It is a fake/concept tank
@matthiuskoenig3378
3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanmonahhov2314 this is a comment on a video about 'fake' tanks. ofcaurse there are going to be people asking for them.
@ryanvanderweel5450
3 жыл бұрын
I want a Russian leaf blower tank just for the memes of killing enemies with a leaf blower
@IMP_ROM
3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@nitroxdriverfrance7598
3 жыл бұрын
Just blow the R3 away when they come to you. Wheeeeee goes the meatball
@ryanvanderweel5450
3 жыл бұрын
Or set enemies engines on fire since main weapon was a MiG engine
@welkingunther5417
3 жыл бұрын
I'm up for that as an April Fools thing
@ItsDavieman
3 жыл бұрын
i like the idea of having certain tanks in the game, but nothing crazy overall i think the tanks such as the tiger 2 10.5 and panther 2 should stay, just not as tech tree maybe a reward or something as it annoys new players
@snaaslam5113
3 жыл бұрын
Agree, they should be made available at the very least even if it is not as a tech tree vehicle.
@dullen2810
3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in WoT Blitz there's stuff ranging from anime tanks, that are rendered to look like anime where everything else looks (moderately) realistic, to the Predator and Vindicator from the 40k universe.
@wyom2838
3 жыл бұрын
That’s what makes it fun
@brazil14n35
3 жыл бұрын
@Jasper Barnes it's not a simulation game after all, it's arcade at finnest Or you really think that arcade games should ne as realistic as WT? Bruh
@drakonna6281
3 жыл бұрын
"it ruins my immersion" ah yes a 80s tank(r3) farming panzer IIIs was historically accurate
@thebibledoc2320
3 жыл бұрын
Obviously this ties with the overall issue that warthunder should be historical and isnt
@nickrael5693
3 жыл бұрын
The argument doesn't make any sense and people that are trying to do it are so hypocritical they're the same people that say Germany suffers at 6.7 which they do because they face numerous allied tanks that came out years if not decades after during the cold war with HEAT and SABOT but yet they're the same people that argue they don't want the panther 2 in the game because it's not real...
@bluntcabbage6042
3 жыл бұрын
Germany doesn't suffer.
@jeandelacroix6726
3 жыл бұрын
same nation that justify having 1945 cars fighting 1936 designs when they do not have access to late 1944 ammo at tier 1. (not even talking about the tier 1 1949 bois that are 100% of the time with them)
@vannisettineri555
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see something like the p43 to limit the foreign vehicles in a tech tree
@L96A1killerif
3 жыл бұрын
IMO, as long as they have at least a working prototype and can fill in a lineup, they can work. No sense in adding in a vehicle to a tree that is already nice and rounded out like the USA
@marshmellominiapple
3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by "working prototype"? From an engineer's perspective, a napkin tank is a perfectly valid, working prototype. Do you mean something that had major components of it finished, like the Maus, or something that just have had extensive research into it's components but only had mockup(s) built like the P43 series?
@captainxanet4043
3 жыл бұрын
@@marshmellominiapple Things like the American T series. Many of those were made and actually tested just not approved for service.
@marshmellominiapple
3 жыл бұрын
@@captainxanet4043 Then the amount of tanks to add is extremely limited. We already added the american super heavies, so what other tanks qualify? Certainly nothing for the nations that need it.
@captainxanet4043
3 жыл бұрын
@@marshmellominiapple there are plenty of other T series tanks that aren't heavies. Lots of SPGs and TDs in that line. Hell they could add the M7 light too but tanks like the ST-A3 are good things to add or the various soviet projects. AFV don't just appear out of no where. There are lots of vehicles that were almost put into service. I can't sit here and name some but I bet if you did some digging you could find a bunch of actual tested prototypes that just didn't make the cut. Spooks literally has like 3 videos about them
@captainxanet4043
3 жыл бұрын
@@marshmellominiapple plus there's vehicles that are real and have been/are in service that gaijin just hasn't added. Lots of chinese AA and IFVs that could greatly fill their line up but aren't even added so some trees have a long way to go before having to dig through tested prototypes
@affentaktik2810
3 жыл бұрын
How to balance the Maus: Put it at 7.3 but make it an extra category "Super Heavy Tank" which requires lets say 500-600sp so you cant spawn it in the beggining of a match and the amount of people playing it in one match will be very limited to maybe 1 or 2 at max
@MH15501
Жыл бұрын
That would probaply make already good players stomping the enemy even better. Keep it at a higher BR so that only decent and good players can make it work.
@alejandroperfectoge7095
3 жыл бұрын
I always tought that blueprint tanks and planes could be a great adition for those nations that lack some homemade vehicles at certain BRs and i do support it, now for the big 3, i wouldn't even dare to suggest it
@sicsempertyrannis6541
3 жыл бұрын
If the designs are grounded in reality, then it would add much more flavor to the main WW2 and late WW2 era of vehicles I.E. giving people more incentive to play mid teir rather than focus on the new flavor of _Go-Kart with Stabilizer™_ gets added next.
@Miodoe3
3 жыл бұрын
I know someone how has been trying to get the O-I added, and has provided sources, but Gaijin aren't doing it, say something along the lines of; "The only existing one is in a private collection, and the sources you have provided aren't in English, so we won't add it".
@IMP_ROM
3 жыл бұрын
Is the O-I a tank, plane, or ship? Sorry, results for all three appeared for me in Google.
@GT_FREAK
3 жыл бұрын
@@IMP_ROM japanese heavy tank
@IMP_ROM
3 жыл бұрын
@@GT_FREAK Ok, thanks.
@anthonysantilo928
3 жыл бұрын
On one hand I don't want prototypes that just completely out perform production tanks. On the other hand, Italian P43 heavy tank. I think limiting them to nations that need them is good.
@qingyunwang3802
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The history consultant Gaijin hired for Japanese ground tech tree was a Korean student posing as a Japanese historian who had access to sekrit dokument in Diet Library.
@Calvin_Coolage
3 жыл бұрын
Are you serious?
@qingyunwang3802
3 жыл бұрын
@@Calvin_Coolage Yes, and later turns out he's not Korean either, just a New Jersey fellow posing as a Korean student posing as a Japanese historian😂. As soon as he was exposed Gaijin fired him.
@Calvin_Coolage
3 жыл бұрын
@@qingyunwang3802 Man that's fucking hilarious.
@quocvinhnguyen2063
3 жыл бұрын
@@qingyunwang3802 wow, truly intersting
@mr.dakkadakka2845
3 жыл бұрын
For nations like the big three I feel like fictional tanks should be limited to events but for nations like Italy, Japan, China, Sweden, and maybe France they should consider adding some of them to the tech tree to help with game balance.
@Deborp_Marshall
3 жыл бұрын
1:34, "Tanks fight tanks that are 3 decades older than themselves" I agree with them here, but the Ft17 saw combat in many places, it shouldn't completely exclude any outdated tank.
@Ty-yt3lj
3 жыл бұрын
that's being generous, I've seen record of Renault FT's being used as pillboxes around 2003
@Deborp_Marshall
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ty-yt3lj there was a report of one being uses in afghanistan against the Soviets but it's unconfirmed
@irinashidou9524
3 жыл бұрын
I’m against purely fictional but on paper only/mock ups I would love There’s tons of late war German jets and even rocket fighters that would be amazing to see. Britain even had on paper projects for a flying wing made by the same guy who designed the lancaster
@enderjed2523
3 жыл бұрын
Us British also had these interesting tanks that were actually built: Bob semple (Commonwealth) Bishop Excelsior TOG TOG II* Churchill Black Prince Schnofield Car (Commonwealth)
@jjmax981
3 жыл бұрын
Every time the ODST theme song come at the end my heart drop every time I hear it the nostalgia
@_sundown__
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered what the T110 series would be like in WT
@jeremybarrett3616
3 жыл бұрын
Fictional vehicle additions are always nice. I'd like to see mecha even though they are impractical in most circumstance. If only in their own game mode like they did previously as an event. But accessible all the time. (honestly I just want more mecha games but thought they did the event pretty well)
@lewycraft
3 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is that, we can't have many historical tanks in the game without adding prototypes and made up tanks, as otherwise we can't make tech tries for them, like Hungarians, Poles, Czechs, Argentinians, Fins etc. And yes, we can add them to existing trees as an premiums, but how to decide where to put let's say Polish pre war vechicles? To soviet one or british, french? And making few regional tech trees also would likely don't work well, as to have Polish, Hungarian and let's say Czech vechicles in nixed tech tree would be kinda stupid
@xNeonTacos
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, but honestly the concept of a nation tech tree has been so messed up that I wouldn't mind a "international" tech tree where its filled with random tanks from other nations that had good tank designs but are too insignificant to qualify its own tree. Maybe a European and Asian tech tree?
@fishmansf4573
3 жыл бұрын
You can put Finnish tanks in Sweden. Just like the mörkö-morane and the pyrrörremyrsky. Sweden could use the premiums and i would definitely buy the BT-42 if it gets added.
@Darktotaled
3 жыл бұрын
just make a tech tree called minor countries/factions and dump the vehicles there.
@m1sz3lpl24
3 жыл бұрын
I always advocated for a mixed minor nations tree, would work beautifully with all the smaller nations that still had tank/aircraft designs of thier own, some quite significant. As for matchmaking, I don't imagine it being too hard, as different vehicles within the tree can have different nationality set, and thus have seperate MM
@jeandelacroix6726
3 жыл бұрын
@@fishmansf4573 the Morko should have been in the french tech tree just like how the LeoTexas ended in the German TT
@t.sorvig3540
2 жыл бұрын
What I like about WoT tech trees is that they take advantage of Prototypes and concept tanks. Things like the Vk 30.01/02, Pz V/IV, Vk 36.01, etc. It can fun to run around in a tank that you otherwise had no idea existed, even if it was only as a prototype. With that being said, WoT goes absolutely of the radar with many of their tanks (some may say most). Especially their event tanks. Before I quit playing, one of the most frustrating tanks to go against was the Tier VI "Absolution." This was a "heavy" tank that was a Panther/M10 hull with a Prototype Tiger Turret, 7,5/5,5 cm squeeze bore Canon with up to 221mm of pen that fired 14.29 rpm, and spaced armor EVERYWHERE (spaced armor was broke AF when I was playing). This freaking tank was not only wildly OP, but it was everywhere. 1 of them was a pain in the ass, but 2 of them working together could utterly dominate a match. Their armor was stupidly trolly, their gun could pen practically anything it face, and they we fucking fast on a straightaway. This is the type of shit that people don't want in War Thunder, unless it were to be a separate game mode, altogether. I, too, would love to see concept and prototype tanks, like the M4 Improved, or even some Nations that have tech trees mostly made up of concepts and prototypes.. If done right, "Paper Tanks" could bring a lot of new life - and money - to the game.
@LowieDM
3 жыл бұрын
Spookston: an italian engineer designed a super heavy tank in the midst of the nation falling this tank could never be built. The maus: ......
@abhijitsinghsidhu-jaid5578
3 жыл бұрын
Could we just appreciate the amount of tanks he killed and how accurately he was able to shoot them. I my self couldn't even see them in the for farther battles.
@tomato_sliced
3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see stuff like the earlier amx m4 designs, all the elc designs (amx elc bis, elc even), the G1 design variants for france, and even some German E series tanks to fill the rank 5 gap germany now has.
@skyjaythefirst7331
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I'm not even listening to your fictional vehicle explaination. I'm watching your godly sniping skills.
@muricaman6135
3 жыл бұрын
"People say this is because of it ruins their historical emersion, which doesn't make much sense to me" *proceeds to list all the inaccuracy issues with the game I want changed as well*
@hummerskickass
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the SPAA version of the Abrams added to the game. There was a detailed mock up of it the used two 35mms and ADATs missiles. I believe there is also a version that use the GAU 8 Avenger that would be beyond amazing to see in game.
@grahamnoble1865
3 жыл бұрын
I just want my Yamato battleship :(
@invadegreece9281
3 жыл бұрын
Wait a few years till they get around to late battleships
@AlistairAi
3 жыл бұрын
World of Warships my guy
@warhubnia164
3 жыл бұрын
I want the Bismarck
@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632
3 жыл бұрын
@@warhubnia164 I want an Iowa at best. Doesn’t have to have missile launchers slapped onto it, it just has to be able to deal with aircraft.
@misham6547
3 жыл бұрын
@@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632 I think it would be much more fun to combine air and see RB with aircraft carriers and force people to stay in either air battles or sea battles, so that air is far more balanced and victories can't be cheesed because one person spawned in a torpedo bomber
@zaner5005
3 жыл бұрын
I agree completely with you. I am fine with vehicles that never got put into production as long as they make sense and aren't too common.
I have had the same thoughts about fictional vehicles. As long as they are implemented sparingly and as a way to fill gaps in a nation's tree I think they could be good additions to the game.
@KotiletzLayer
3 жыл бұрын
I only think that there should be the designed ones
@crumbyk7798
3 жыл бұрын
do you think the panther 2 should be in the game then? Im a wot player so I am nonpartisan on the WT controversy lol
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
3 жыл бұрын
@@crumbyk7798 The WT Panther 2 is a fantasy tank because of the long 88. A real Panther 2 was built, but was just a normal panther with thicker armour and a better engine.
@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632
3 жыл бұрын
I’m of a mind of getting rid of the b.r system as it’s constantly changed by player proficiency, thus tanks planes and boats get moved up or down based on how they do. Some of it DOES have to do with what the vehicle is, but mainly how the player does. the tier system works fine, just have vehicles of the same tier fight each other. You’ll fight a lot of the same vehicles, sure, but it’ll be more fun in my opinion.
@misko933
3 жыл бұрын
Dude I love to see fictional vehicles in WT, they just bring some realistic and very interesting engineering ideas that never saw production, its very interesting to think and see how they would perform. I love seeing blueprints from tanks that never saw production being added to the game, of course if they are within the boundaries of gaijins criteria, its sad to me to just leave behind some ideas, that came from engineers who tried to perfect their work with their experience and protect their country, just because they couldn't be achieved because of some problems at the time, it's really cool to see the abandoned engineering work alive imo. What's your opinion?
@risu6894
3 жыл бұрын
* whips out massive book of italian cold war prototypes* "hello can I get an uhhhhhhh... *TECH TREE* ?"
@japiska9065
3 жыл бұрын
Well I want to see BT-42 in wt
@fishmansf4573
3 жыл бұрын
I would pay good money to have it.
@welkingunther5417
3 жыл бұрын
@@velaikka I'm all for that...and there better be an option to have the tracks be taken off
@2xtoo145
3 жыл бұрын
I kinda want to witness the power of a fully operational battle station against a Maus
@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline
3 жыл бұрын
I do agree, the "fictional due to not being built" (only on paper or a wood mock up type) tanks could really help out minor nations quite a bit. Of course not entirely fake vehicles
@bighobo7745
3 жыл бұрын
My main issue with so-called fictional vehicles (and some prototypes) is that they tend to be better than production stuff in War Thunder. They didn't have any compromises imposed by reality such as slow reloading, high ground pressure etc. that aren't readily apparent from the design documents. Hell, the Maus was apparently originally designed to be a 100 ton tank but got a bit chunkier by the time it was built.
@homiespaghetti1522
3 жыл бұрын
As a Japan player I would love to see their paper super-heavy tanks like the O-I. Japan would finally be a competitive nation
@beep5406
3 жыл бұрын
it would literally just get murdered by atgm's wish gaijin would seperate ww2 and cold war as they have such a big difference
@MB-fe6ly
3 жыл бұрын
Plz no, they look awful haha
@cuchococh4977
3 жыл бұрын
The O-I wasn't a paper tank tho... Sure WoT made a full line of them and the final resting place of the O-I is highly disputed but it was a real built tank. There is even a piece of its tracks on a museum
@dessertfoxo4096
3 жыл бұрын
@@cuchococh4977 the problem with the OI is very little survived on it and it's all contrary to its self
@homiespaghetti1522
3 жыл бұрын
@@beep5406 the O-I wouldn't fight ATGM vehicles often, I would personally put it around 5.3-6.3, the armor is strong but it's a huge profile
@darthdoggo7324
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly would like to see more tanks that are fictional in warthunder And have the Maus put back in
@IMP_ROM
3 жыл бұрын
The Maus was removed?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@dankesteevee1937
3 жыл бұрын
1:20 I think it boils down to people who don't care and those who scream "YOU'RE KILLING MY HISTORY BONER!!!"
@pieguy7157
3 жыл бұрын
That’s absolutely true. I hate how people act like War Thunder is any bit realistic. IT’S NOT A SIM!
@theanonymousman3406
3 жыл бұрын
@@pieguy7157 tell that to wot and wows players
@infinitydott
3 жыл бұрын
I think some people would like to see more ‘fantasy’ or prototype tanks that saw further development, like the T69 for example, not only because they like the design, but also so they can see somewhat how they would have performed if their development had been continued
@matthiuskoenig3378
3 жыл бұрын
or rather how they would look preforming the job.
@CssHDmonster
3 жыл бұрын
but gaijin said they removed maus from tech tree cuz it was prototype , personally i think the more vehicles the better, especially side grades like the skink vs the m4
@Spookston
3 жыл бұрын
Gaijin removed the Maus because it was extremely difficult to balance, not because it was a prototype. They've stated this multiple times.
@CssHDmonster
3 жыл бұрын
@@Spookston oh, well i missed the whole removal thing, and i remember a comment on reddit or something say that it was due to being a prototype or something
@romeovictor6223
3 жыл бұрын
I think there was a point in the games history that the "immersion" argument held some ground, however with how the game is now, I think that argument no longer holds much value, as there are far too many things that deviate off of realism, which is what would be the main focus of a players immersion. Back then, there were no helicopters, there were no thermals, there were no wheeled vehicles, there were no MBTs, ect ect. But now that there are, I think we've since switched from a "nonfiction" game, if you will, to a "realistic fiction". And because of that, there is little reason to exclude experimental vehicles. I only fear that gaijin will power creep these, and find a way to make money off them, which would be a shame.
@Quadrenaro
3 жыл бұрын
Skink: deployed in small numbers near the end of the war but saw no combat. Gaijin: No skink, barely non-fiction. Panther II: Maus: T95: T92: T34: T32: FV4202: I-225: Ho-229 R2Y2: F-82: XP-38G: Pretty much every reward vehicle:
@zakvitale1411
3 жыл бұрын
Yet we still haven't seen the m7 priest, yet it mass produced and more "real" than half of the late war german tanks
@Kalashnikov413
3 жыл бұрын
M7 Priest is a pure SPA
@billpolychronidis7805
3 жыл бұрын
War Thunder is way close to reality than World of Tanks, World of Tanks best tanks and most played tanks were just some forgotten blueprints in a drawer.
@mitchverr9330
3 жыл бұрын
The engineers fudging the numbers is 100% the reason I dont want them. Not simply because they might have made an "oops", but often you will see designs being put forward which were impossible to construct as said and also given impossible stats so they look good to try and "fix later" and get around selection processes. Or of course the other thing "you will design or else!" knowing it wont be picked but designed things anyway to look like they were doing their job (believe it or not theres a lot of this in tank design). edit: personal example I like to use, the Covenanter tank, on paper it was going to be a smaller, IIRC faster, better armoured (angled armour) Crusader. In reality.......
@nebelparderde4503
3 жыл бұрын
Just build prototypes for me. The fake tanks were one important reason for me to switch from WoT to WT.
@Earl_of_York
3 жыл бұрын
I just want the tog 2 with its sponsons from the design on it Though I can understand the HMS incomparable not ever being added because that had a very optimistic idea
@dessertfoxo4096
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah HMS incomparable is more wows then wtn
@dominikhalovanic2818
3 жыл бұрын
TOG 1 had 40 mm guns in sponsons.
@user-vu9ug4vb3u
3 жыл бұрын
I dont mind about 60-90's fictional tanks.
@AceTheMM
3 жыл бұрын
Paper vehicles also have the potential added benefit of having completely unique playstyles, which is something I think we need more of.
@pinio5033
3 жыл бұрын
2:27 I love how you just go "Yea, i aint gonna hit that" (Shoots) "Oh shit i did hit that"
@BusterBuizel
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the ADFX Morgan be added for the German planes
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174
3 жыл бұрын
You will have no idea what means "fictional" until you play world of tanks
@Vulkanprimarch
3 жыл бұрын
Damn I would love to see a company make a really well thought out and realistic inspired Warhammer 40K version of War Thunder.
@ZozoRage
3 жыл бұрын
Hi :). Love the content you produce btw
@thevexengineer
3 жыл бұрын
"some world of tanks vehicles" more like " *most* world of tanks vehicles"
@owenpyper5195
3 жыл бұрын
By this reasoning that means we could get a P. 1000 Rattè for an April fools update.
@canadianwaffenwaffle2976
3 жыл бұрын
now now we dont exactly want to give gaijin to much ideas or else we will somehow get a even more overpowered tank at a lower br than the r3
@nuggs4snuggs516
3 жыл бұрын
And here I was thinking we'd be discussing adding the Scorpion or AAT to War Thunder, sad
@AceOfBlackjack
3 жыл бұрын
Loud halo noises as the warthog kills like 58 panther tanks.
@m1a1abrams3
3 жыл бұрын
then leo l44 and tiger 105 shouldnt be in the game
@dessertfoxo4096
3 жыл бұрын
They have been removed from circulation and you cant get them any more. Like the maus and e100
@derhasso6123
3 жыл бұрын
and Panther II
@brickmastersk8658
3 жыл бұрын
When Gaijin removed the Panther II, the Tiger II 105cm kwk, the Coelian, and the Maus, I was sure that another update would come out which brought the vehicles back as Squadron vehicles, or event vehicles. But no, the just kept adding other random captured vehicles, and never gave us back our beloved Panther II, further more I believe Siege mortars or artillery such as the M12 Motor Gun carriage, and 600mm Karl Gerat, would be pretty good premium vehicles, (Yes, I do believe that the Karl Gerat would be balanced at around 6.7, due to it only having a maximum speed of 6mph, and roughly 8mm of armor all around and its reload rate being 1Rnd/10mins, I think that would be fair, considering if the 600mm shell hits anything, it would explode immediately killing the target. And I believe that the M12 should be placed at Br 4.7, due to it having about 2mm-51mm of armor, and a 155mm cannon with a maximum of 10 rounds and a reload rate of 2.11 rounds a minute, Plus the karl Gerat has 21 crew members which would increase its survivability, and making it the biggest ground vehicle in the game.)
@Real_Claudy_Focan
3 жыл бұрын
I dont mind as long they fill some "gaps" or needs in various trees.
@frisho2190
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly first gaujin should add some real tanks we are asking for for long time. Then they should focus on tanks that need to plug gaps with. And after that they can add whatever they want as long as it's not WoT Blitz event bullshits
@hornet8364
3 жыл бұрын
WoT Blitz event bullshits? what are you talking about? (sorry for the stupid question)
@frisho2190
3 жыл бұрын
@@hornet8364 world of tanks blitz (mobile version of wot) does have event vehicles that are literally what devs created look at something like gravedigger ect. I like to call those "we run out of tanks" tanks
@hornet8364
3 жыл бұрын
@@frisho2190 ooohhh thanks sir
@martinmethod427
2 жыл бұрын
Honest question: Would you consider the Girls und Panzer Tanks (Oarai Pz IV H, Pravda IS-2, Pravda KV-2, Pravda T-34-76, Saunders? Sherman Firefly) event BS? You know the GuP fans (which already taken over the War Thunder workshop by the way) would shell out for Sensha-do prepared tanks... which would probably just be cleaned up, aced versions of their existing variants for the Japanese tree. The miracle carbon coat, the WEP, and the white flag wouldn't be incorporated in the tank, naturally (unless for April Fools they make a mode that is basically Sensha-do).
@Jack931
3 жыл бұрын
I just want to play the Panther 2
@IMP_ROM
3 жыл бұрын
I just want to play the Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte.
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