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@johnlewis9158
4 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of stories about the SAS exploits during world war 2 but very little is said about the exploits of Popski's private army who were not dissimilar to the SAS although not quite as the professional SAS. So with that said do you have any interesting stories/facts on Popski's private army to relate
@hvr1874
4 жыл бұрын
Steve1989MREInfo got a taste test video of some German ration items from 1942. He got lots of reviews and taste tests of different type of rations from the allies side.
@doolittlegeorge
4 жыл бұрын
@@арефнар *stay tuned* great question!
@stevekaczynski3793
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnlewis9158 I read Vladimir Peniakoff's (Popski's) account. Fascinating stuff. At the time scale we have reached in WW2 he was inciting Senussi tribesmen to rebel against the Italians in Cyrenaica (Peniakoff could speak Egyptian Arabic).
@johnlewis9158
4 жыл бұрын
@@stevekaczynski3793 He was before the war a Belgium Chemist or something of that nature was he not. He also only had one hand i believe
@alcaulique8358
4 жыл бұрын
I am a militia captain in the swiss armed forces. This summer while doing the yearly exercise, our cook was a chef in a gourmet restaurant. I have never eaten so well. The world has changed a lot since WW2...
@Etrune
4 жыл бұрын
That's for sure, but we haven't been at total war for a long time and we produce much more than we did in 1940. I have heard that in Afghanistan, rations are not worth the same thing depending on the country during exchanges and I doubt that all soldiers have access to a great chef ^^. If anyone has any info on that, I'm interested :)
@alcaulique8358
4 жыл бұрын
@42 No we have mandatory male service. But it's a defensive army. To become a Swiss Papal Guard you have to do your boot camp in the swiss armed force.
@alcaulique8358
4 жыл бұрын
@@Etrune Yes. We actually were very lucky because the cook was also a militian doing is yearly mandatory exercise.
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
4 жыл бұрын
Nowadays in the French army, ALL the cooks are renown chefs : that's why our ration's value skyrockets in the black market on the front... That, and how hard it is to make them vanish from the inventory... Have to justify every bullet fired with these guys !
@BangFarang1
4 жыл бұрын
@42 Switzerland has no army, Switzerland IS an army... kzitem.info/news/bejne/molj2mqNnWZleGk
@alfredlee802
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao, "Mussolini's Ass" for Italian food ration as if Italy not mocked enough by everyone.
@tommy-er6hh
4 жыл бұрын
@@krisfrederick5001 In peace time they have great food, during WWII they all got more and more hungry.
@stevekaczynski3793
4 жыл бұрын
@@tommy-er6hh In the film "Rome Open City", made as the war ended, housewives are shown as being hungry enough to loot a bakery.
@andmos1001
4 жыл бұрын
MRE or the three lies: it’s not meal, it’s not ready and it’s not editable
@podemosurss8316
4 жыл бұрын
Well, at least they got rations. The Spanish conscripts at the time were fed "whatever was available when It was available", which wasn't much as Spain faced food shortages since 1939 all the way to the late 1940s.
@podemosurss8316
4 жыл бұрын
@@andmos1001 They got a nickname: "Meals Rejected by the Enemy"
@indianajones4321
4 жыл бұрын
Many men under my command have tried to run away. No man has ever succeeded. If the desert doesn’t get you, the Arabs will, if the Arabs don’t get you, the Legion will, if the Legion doesn’t get you, then I will -Major Foster (March or Die 1977)
@adelkheir
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like what a commissar would do to an imperial guardsman in warhammer 40k.
@salt_factory7566
4 жыл бұрын
Pour les belges y en a plus, pour les belges y en a plus. Ce sont de tireurs au cul...
@lookythat2
4 жыл бұрын
"...I don't know which is worse," he concludes.
@68Boca
4 жыл бұрын
I thing I'm discovering watching this series, which I love, is the constant, nay endless, quotes by military commanders and/or politicians. I'm a history buff, but never have i seen the answer for just about anything can be found by quoting someone from some random conflict or sub theatre or engagement. Well, I must do some research, because it's way above the average population. Who knew..... My guess is because of the Officer Corps of the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries was from the privileged shall we say. Not any better, but with better opportunities I think. More likely to be recorded and noted. Just a guess. An educated one.
@t5ruxlee210
4 жыл бұрын
Seriously naughty Legionaires in Africa who did not merit immediate execution for their misdeeds could be sent to the "Bats d'Afrique", aka "Bataillons d'Infanterie Légère d'Afrique" or BILA. Opinion was somewhat divided regarding which form of punishment was more humane.
@j.m.f5451
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! The part about rations and how they differed between Germans and Italians certainly helped demonstrate how Italian soldiers were let down by command (again and again).
@borispapic9510
4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the actress who played Elaine in Seinfeld is distantly related to Alfred Dreyfus of the Dreyfus affair.
@Gameflyer001
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, as is Julie Dreyfus, a French actress raised in Japan; best known for her role in Kill Bill.
@borispapic9510
4 жыл бұрын
@@Gameflyer001 Yes, in fact the Dreyfus family is quite a prominent and influental business family
@ShanaCarp
4 жыл бұрын
@@Gameflyer001 She's a direct descendant through Pierre
@ShanaCarp
4 жыл бұрын
Distant though. The Dreyfus clan did marry its cousins occasionally though
@ShanaCarp
4 жыл бұрын
@@borispapic9510 Only the Louis Dreyfus branch, which was and is considered one of the great fortunes of France. Studying the history of the branch and the Louis Dreyfus Company BV during ww2 is super fascinating
@docvideo93
4 жыл бұрын
"Italian rations were bad." Me: *looking at the great legacy of Italian cooking* How?? That's one thing you couldn't mess up and yet look at this 'Ass'!!
@voiceofraisin3778
4 жыл бұрын
Thats a not totally true, Italian rations and field cooking were amazingly good. As long as you were an officer! The men on the other hand got tinned meat, biscuits and pasta. That was one of the main causes of dissent and low morale in some Italian units, well that and senior officers appointed for political loyalty not competence and the fact the Italian home front used to spend too much time defrauding the army so the soldiers sometimes ended up with cardboard soled boots. One of the incredible details is that the Italians are the great pioneers of desert exploration, they have men who have survived in the desert on minimal water and they ignore it all to send send out an army fed on dried pasta and dry biscuits. One of the reasons Italian units didnt travel far from water holes, apart from their diabolically bad transport was so much of their rations depended on water volume the British didnt need. On the plus side it used to amaze the British how many of the Italian prisoners all seemed to be issued their own personal coffee grinder and sack of beans. Bits didnt drink coffee but they used to find the grinders amusing and also a bit baffling since the coffee needed so much water as well and the average Brit was living on less than a litre of water a day at times.
@stevekaczynski3793
4 жыл бұрын
@@voiceofraisin3778 I think even Italian NCOs had a better ration scale than men, and officers better than the NCOs. The Wehrmacht was egalitarian by comparison. The rot in the Italian army ran deep.
@davidbrennan660
4 жыл бұрын
Italiano mess tins and water bottles are some of the better of the Second War..... good construction and design of the theatres of use and materials.
@CanalTremocos
4 жыл бұрын
Making "the trains run on time" took away baldie's whole effort.
@DavidSmith-ss1cg
4 жыл бұрын
@@CanalTremocos - Sneer all you like; the Fascists kicked the Italian railroad unions in the crotch; "making the trains run on time" was so unusual in those days that it was news all over the world. This is relevant today, as the folks running things in the US must surely be tempted by watching the protests against murderous police by concerned citizens who think that they have rights. I hope and pray that police supervisors prevent any ugly incidents.
@ollikoskinen1
4 жыл бұрын
And then there's the Swedish "delicacy" and biological weapon, sjurströmming. Regards, a Finn.
@Raskolnikov70
4 жыл бұрын
No wonder nobody tried to invade them during WWII. Nickel mines be damned, nobody wanted to go up against canned Swedish fish.
@existentialgoberts4345
4 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 There is a theory that England colonised here and there to learn how to cook properly. It just so happened they did the bad things along the way
@doolittlegeorge
4 жыл бұрын
*goes well with a Molotov Cocktail* sounds like
@ollikoskinen1
4 жыл бұрын
@Joakim von Anka I heard a rumour that the Finnish Defence Forces are developing a salmiac gas to counter the sjurströmming.
@Teleoceras
4 жыл бұрын
OMG The one time I was in Sweden I had the unfortunate luck to smell sjurströmming. I never liked the smell of fish to begin with and that was so bad that it made me throw up. UGH.
@Arbiter099
4 жыл бұрын
"They could last a long time" "Nice hiss," Steve1989, eating food from 1940 in the 21st century
@villesimonen5693
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Was looking for this comment
@chonpincher
4 жыл бұрын
British army rations included meat which came in giant cans. By opening the cans at both ends, the soldiers on catering duty could remove it in the form of a huge pink cylinder of uniform consistency. The troops knew it under the name “elephant's prick”.
@simonh6371
4 жыл бұрын
British soldiers have always had funny names for rations. In the old ration packs used from the 1960s til the early 1990s we had baby's heads, screech and cheese possessed.
@danielcrespo7967
4 жыл бұрын
Italy can't win in the field, or behind the front lines with their food.
@JorgeRodriguez-de6eo
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Crespo cant even get pizza right
@TheECSH
4 жыл бұрын
that's sad. Italian food was about the only thing that they had going for them, and now you are telling them they can't even win in this arena?
@j.chiari4222
4 жыл бұрын
Though you wouldn't imagine it, would you
@aasante3437
4 жыл бұрын
They never had the makings of a varsity war machine
@stevekaczynski3793
4 жыл бұрын
Dried spaghetti and tinned tomato sauce were also available and more popular than AM.
@christopherconard2831
4 жыл бұрын
Those WWII rations lasted until Steve1989 got his hands on them.
@MaloGuillaumeLeCoat
4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm some smooth morphine
@Raskolnikov70
4 жыл бұрын
Let's get this out onto a tray...... Nice.
@stevekaczynski3793
4 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 "Nice hiss" (as milk urn from the Hundred Years' War is opened, spreading a miasmic vapour).
@Raskolnikov70
4 жыл бұрын
@@stevekaczynski3793 Lol, wouldn't put it past him. "This clay jar came from the Tomb of Ramses II, it's about 3000 years old but I'm sure it'll still be okay to eat....."
@PobortzaPl
4 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 "No, I don't think I should eat that! The smell is... [takes a bite nonetheless] Okay, the smell IS as bad as a taste" That guy had eaten a Boer War ration! He ate a ration nearly 100 years older than him!
@Grimmtoof
4 жыл бұрын
I have heard that one of the reasons for the rapid Japanese advance in places like Burma is that they relied on capturing enemy food supplies and focused most of their logistics on things like ammo. This was great early on but after the British/US managed to hold their ground better it caused major problems such as at the Battles of the Admin Box and Kohima.
@charlescrowell4981
4 жыл бұрын
Death of the 15th Japanese army.
@lsq7833
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but that photo at 4:08 is definitely NOT French Foreign Legion, but they are tirailleurs denoted by their typical hats, recruited in the colonies, which is entirely distinct from the FFL.
@arthurpozner7701
4 жыл бұрын
At the bottom of that photo it says: French Foreign Legion soldiers (from 3 African regions) ... Is this incorrect ?
@JRos-qc6kw
4 жыл бұрын
@@arthurpozner7701 No, they are tirailleurs , who were very good soldiers and who always opened the parades because they were elite troops. The note at the bottom of the photo is wrong. The one on the left carries the anchor of the colonial troops at the pass (The legionaries carry the 7-flame grenade) and they carry the tirailleur's shechia.
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely wright, well spotted. It is a photo of a Tirailleur Sénégalais. These colonial French forces served in the Battle of France, and took severe casualties. They continued to serve for France as part of the Free French Forces under de Gaulle.
@filipeamaral216
4 жыл бұрын
Whoa, Indy talking about the French Foreign Legion! I never clicked so fast. I love this subject. On a short note, 5 regiments of foreign volunteers were formed to fight in France. The 11e REI and 12e REI were well-equipped and formed by Legion veterans (with very few foreign volunteers), the 21e, 22e and 23e RMVE poorly equipped, mostly untrained and largely created to place the gigantic wave of foreign volunteers wanting to defend France from Nazi Germany - those are the volunteers "for the duration of the war". The Legion cavalry also formed a divisional recon group (97e GRDI).Those units will be heroically destroyed, but utterly destroyed nevertheless. The 97e GRDI was particularly distinguished, losing its commanding officer and ending the war with only 256 of the original 650 men still alive and mostly fighting as infantry. The survivors mostly managed to escape to north Africa and rejoin the Legion. The American future actor Pierre Ortiz, from the 11e REI, managed to get back to the US, joinend the USMC in 1941 and jumped over France as part of an advising team of the OSS for the French Resistence and got captured after heavy fighting on the Vercours Mountains in 1944. Others were not so lucky, like Capitaine Gabriel Favreau that was part of 6e REI, defeated in Syria, went to Tunisia when Legion units were hastily thrown into the fight against the well-equipped Germans in Tunisia, with two Legion compagnies being annihilated in the first encounter. Captaine Gabriel Favreau without his right eye received the new flag of his 2e Compagnie, 1er REI, with the new battle honor of Djebel Mansour, and also a Légion d'Honneur for his troubles. This is not to mention the volunteers "for the duration" that wanted to be discharged after the Armistice of 1940 and were sent to Foreign Legion forced labour camps. The 13e DBLE is the most known unit of the period, receiving high-quality recruits with mountain and ski training, and formed mostly from foreign volunteers who joined for idealism, it was nicknamed the "Intellectual Regiment". It fought well in Narvik and Keren, but most notably in Bir Hakeim. It would fight in Italy, south of France and Germany with their friends of the RMLE and the REC. After the war, the 13e DBLE was sent to Indochina for a long and bloody ten years there. The Legion also suffered from German inspections in North Africa, with enemies of the Reich being shipped back for Germany to be punished or to be pressed into service; the Infanterie-Regiment Afrika (mot) 361 of the 90th Light Division was formed from press-ganged légionnaires. Some German and Austrian légionnaires did like to be pressed-ganged, but others did not. A new regiment had to be created to place those légionnaires in risk, the 4e DBLE, that was sent to the distant Senegal. Others were sent to Indochina with the 5e REI, that got an undesirable fate being attacked by the Japanese in 1940, by the Cambodians in 1941 and again by the Japanese in 1945, massacrating the French state in Indochina, and forcing the 5e REI into a 800km forced march under constant attack to the Chinese border (with a march back in 1945-46 to reestablish order in the colony). Worth noting is the 5e REI saving the French Army against the Cambodian tanks due to their expert AT gunnery. The penal platoon was annihilated in 1945, by fighting a sacrificial hold-out to buy time for the fleeing column (the few prisioners, all wounded, were killed by the Japanese). The Tonkinese rifles also resisted fiercely to buy time for the column (which puzzled the Japanese). 4:07 Those are actually Tirailleurs Sénégalais and those are not part of the French Foreign Legion. They did fight in Africa and later in Italy and south of France. A Brazilian légionnaire that fought in Bir Hakeim, Raul Soares da Silveira, mentioned the battalion of Tahiti in very high esteem, acting as a tactical reserve.
@julienvalley28
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to know where you got your sources, and where I can learn more about these legions please?
@filipeamaral216
Жыл бұрын
@@julienvalley28 The best overall book about the Legion is Dougla Boyd's The French Foreign Legion. The source for these regiments especifically are found in Martin Windrow's Uniforms of the French Foreign Legion and The French Foreign Legion 1914-1945.
@julienvalley28
Жыл бұрын
@@filipeamaral216 thank you very much, I’ll definitely check these out when I can
@whiteb09
4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early indonesia was a dutch colony
@arthurpozner7701
4 жыл бұрын
@frank hargreaves Mount Tambora eruption of 1815 was much worse.
@johnrettig1880
4 жыл бұрын
I really know what you mean . When I was younger ( 20's ) , a friend and I found a case of " Combat C rations " that my Dad had forgotten about , out in the garage . We snacked on the cheese and crackers also the dang near bulletproof chocolate bars . Surprisingly enough still good . Until we came across this can marked " Beef Stew " , when I opened it we thought that it had gone bad but my Dad said that it was OK still good . So we went to the kitchen and heated up the stew but added Hamburger Helper noodles . It turned out great . In spite of its looks at first . Yea it looked like a can of " Alpo Dog food " chunks of meat with veggies and a lot of that jelled fat .
@thetsarofsalt2485
4 жыл бұрын
These topics were very interesting! I actually enjoyed learning about the field rations most since that doesn't get brought up much!
@matehavlik4559
4 жыл бұрын
It was legendary how much Hungarian troops under German command hated the rations they were given in WW2.Under an agreement agricultural products from Hungary were shipped to Germany in bulk, in return Germans fed Hungarian units on the Eastern front. It was said to be adequate in quantity, and very scientifically planned, probably even healthier than our own provisions, but it was full of shit a simple Hungarian peasant, like most of these people were, would never eat, and they were disgusted. Accounts say how they called tinned sardines “lizard meat”, they were given some ersatz dry jam that in Hungarian is still called “Hitler bacon”, lots of legumes that is “only good to make the men fart”. Hungarian soldiers were used to gulyás beef and pork with bread.. Although I read in a memoir that there was a type of “artificial honey” they got, that the soldiers really liked.
@Solinimo
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I know "Hitlerszalonna", my grandma called it that and I never understood why. It's shit.
@brutalnyas5639
4 жыл бұрын
As a Slovak, i would not only survive but enjoy eating some good guláš for the rest of my life. Hungarian cuisine is the best
@matehavlik4559
4 жыл бұрын
brutalnyas Well, I just had sztrapacska for dinner :D
@tacowilco7515
4 жыл бұрын
I like how Andy pretends he is seeing the question for the first time.
@yarpen26
4 жыл бұрын
His name's Indy though. Andy's the kid from Toy Story-you know, the one they locked up at Shawshank with Morgan Freeman.
@Johankenzeler
4 жыл бұрын
Wait what???? No way, it's the chair of infinite knowledge. He can even answer questions that haven't been asked yet.
@iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg
4 жыл бұрын
@@Johankenzeler And he can magic pictures of obscure people out of magic instantly too!
@maxmustermann2060
4 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: These German Rolling kitchens where called Gulaschkanonen - Gulasch kannons (Gulasch is a meal).
@nirfz
4 жыл бұрын
in Austria field kitches still are named that way to this day. I would be surprised if the germans dropped it somwhere in time.
@torstikinnunen3801
4 жыл бұрын
The Finnish army field kitchens are still nicknamed soupcannons - soppatykki
@BoxStudioExecutive
4 жыл бұрын
Is that like Hungarian Goulash aka American Chop Suey?
@maxmustermann2060
4 жыл бұрын
nirfz Yeah, it still exists!
@maxmustermann2060
4 жыл бұрын
BoxStudioExecutive It is a mix of meat and Vegetables...
@erikgranqvist3680
4 жыл бұрын
Good food has been recognized as important for armies at least since the Romans.
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
4 жыл бұрын
We had a cartoon movie : Asterix the gaulese, where at some point he signs up to the roman legion to get where he needs to go. "Rule of thumbs, Obelix, the more powerful an army is, the worse the food they serve their soldiers. -... **Ackcoughcough** I didn't know the Romans were so powerful !"
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Not really implemented until Napoleon.
@erikgranqvist3680
4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldWarTwo yupp. Romans, and lots of others, have known the importance of good food. But thru most of history the man on the ground had to procure - and pay for - his own food. Romans was probably the best ones in the food department before the Napoleon era. And thus, lots of armies got themselves into trouble since they had little to none organization in the procurement of said things to eat.
@utubechy
4 жыл бұрын
Where can one buy a chair of infinite knowledge? I can't find it in the Ikea catalog. Great episode. Remember to make me your next patron of the week.
@christopherconard2831
4 жыл бұрын
I could have used it back in school. Instead I got The Desk of WTF is my Teacher Talking About.
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
The Chair of Infinite Knowledge is a rare breed indeed! We look forward to having you as a Patron!
@eljanrimsa5843
4 жыл бұрын
Simple: You have to start with an ordinary chair of finite knowledge, and add a piece of extra knowledge infinite many times.
@TheFiresloth
4 жыл бұрын
The French Foreign Legion story sounds like something out of 40K, with a chapter of Astartes.
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
4 жыл бұрын
Naah ! Most Space Marines wish they could be as aggressive as your average Legionnaire... If they didn't have that fancy tech and gen upgrade, they couldn't keep up ! ;7
@GunnyKeith
4 жыл бұрын
Fed pretty well until stalingrad
@Raskolnikov70
4 жыл бұрын
Notice he only mentioned armies that were fighting as of April 1941. No spoilers here.....
@aidaspelikis4230
4 жыл бұрын
Starvingrad
@GunnyKeith
4 жыл бұрын
@@aidaspelikis4230 Good one
@yarpen26
4 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 He did make a small detour into July 1941 though... sort of unexpected, too.
@CarrotConsumer
4 жыл бұрын
Leather boots cooked in motor oil is a nutritious meal.
@Stefan-qr8ip
4 жыл бұрын
What happend to german POWs from the Foreign Legion? Were they treated like french POWs or like traitors?
@yan7942
4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting question
@ldnstan2454
4 жыл бұрын
They were treated as traitors. Berlin ordered all German and Austrian members of the Foreign Legion to be executed upon capture, an order Rommel disobeyed.
@N8LINE93
4 жыл бұрын
As far as I know most of them were given the opportunity to either stay in the Legion or to join the German army after the defeat. The Legion usually does not deploy foreigners against their home countries (unless they want to) and, as mentioned by Indy, were sent elsewhere. However since France was divided, so was so was the Legion. On top of that political refugees and victims of the NS Regime filled their ranks. Eventually Legion-Germans would encounter and fight against Wehrmacht-Germans in North Africa (Bir Hakeim). Hitler himself ordered the execution of those German POW´s but once again Rommel refused the order and saved those men.
@glx4909
4 жыл бұрын
@@N8LINE93 makes sense, germans in the French legion had certainly joined before war with Germany.
@willatkins9686
4 жыл бұрын
Germans who joined the French foreign Legion after WW2 served in Indo China is a really good story too!
@gianniverschueren870
4 жыл бұрын
This tie looks like flashing lights on a disco dance floor. Yes please 3.5/5
@nootnoot6404
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: for their actions on the Allied side in WW2, the 13th Demi-Brigade of the Foreign Legion was allowed to keep their name (13th DBLE) up until now, through the many military reforms (just like the Normandie-Niemen squadron). Back in 2016 they were stationned in Djibouti, just 130 men strong, but were lately sent back to France to be turned back into an active fighting unit. The 13th is now stationned in Larzac with 1300-1600 men
@jaydeister9305
4 жыл бұрын
"I dug/built fighting positions, filled sandbags, worked on bunkers, dug a M60 pit during my stint in the Gulf War (at KSA), but that may not qualify me for this foxhole stuff."
@QuizmasterLaw
4 жыл бұрын
"It's kind of a unique force" A new name, a new language or languages, and many interesting doors will open if you survive. Initial contracts are five years, retirement after only 15 years, the opportunity to serve throughout the world, with people from all over the world. Non, je ne regrettes rien.
@QuizmasterLaw
4 жыл бұрын
oh, i forgot the new passport part.
@Raskolnikov70
4 жыл бұрын
On the Indonesian Civil War video I told a story about the Legionaires I'd heard from the father of a friend a while back. He'd served in the US Air Force in the 1950's and was part of the force that helped evacuate the "French" forces that surrendered in Dien Bien Phu in 1954. French in quotes because they were all Germans, apparently ex-Nazis who had joined after they couldn't find work in Germany after the Allies' de-Nazification policy kicked in. Strange to think they'd been fighting against France only a few years prior and now they were fighting *for* France in Indochina.
@ffffuchs
4 жыл бұрын
@Neverlandia some people dont have a better choice.
@PobortzaPl
4 жыл бұрын
@Neverlandia And yet, strangely enough, when UK downsized its Army a lot of former Paras had join FFL...
@QuizmasterLaw
4 жыл бұрын
@@Raskolnikov70 yes, the legion back in the 50s was mostly ex German soldiers, not necessarily nazis. Likewise after 1990 there were lots of legionnaires from the former soviet bloc. FTN
@reedlaverty3489
4 жыл бұрын
I love Indy's reaction when he gets a -really- good question.
@rturyn
2 жыл бұрын
My late father, a Polish Jew, served 1937-1946 in the Foreign Legion including 30 months as a German pow hiding his identity.
@rabihrac
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Indy for the new info about the division of the French Foreign Legion in the Syria-Lebanon campaign in June 1941, and that soldiers who fought against each others were buried side by side after the battles.
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding
4 жыл бұрын
I miss the chair of wisdom. But the chair of infinite knoledge is cool too. Can we fuse them in the chair of infinite wisdom?
@kingotime8977
4 жыл бұрын
This was a great episode! Keep up the good work!
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We'll keep on making it if you carry on supporting us!
@amadeusamwater
4 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the Legion's fight at Bir Hakim in North Africa. That was a pretty good brawl.
@pierre-mariecaulliez6285
4 жыл бұрын
"We're surrounded ? GOOD ! That mean we can shoot in every direction !"
@johnmorris7209
4 жыл бұрын
My Father was an Infantryman with the 1st Infantry Division, and told me about eating captured German rations. He described a meat paste that you squeezed from a tube that was really quite good on bread or crackers, and that anything was a pleasant change from “K” rations.
@stevekaczynski3793
4 жыл бұрын
An American Women's Army Corps member examined a German ration dump in France in 1944 and was amazed. She mentioned the meat paste in a tube, "like toothpaste" and also noted that there were fresh oranges ready for collection. On the negative side the Germans often booby-trapped such depots.
@floydvaughn836
3 жыл бұрын
Thanx for the shout-out re: The 13th Demi Brigade. Bir Hakiem!
@raven1613
4 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode, ever since I was a little boy I was intrigued by the French Foreign Legion and learned things about the Legion I had not known before. Thank You.
@tyberfen5009
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, you picked some especially interesting questions this time. The creativity of the Timeghostarmy is astonishing Video 9 of demanding the return of cats on vacuums
@oliviergagnon2647
4 жыл бұрын
Let's get this out onto a tray!
@Murhaain
4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@oliviergagnon2647
4 жыл бұрын
@@Murhaain nice hiss!
@El_Presidente_5337
4 жыл бұрын
The meat you mentionend from the 1918 is truly amazing
@paulbenedict1289
4 жыл бұрын
It's called 'monkey'. It's is pretty good if you warm it up. (made of beef not monkeys despite the name).
@tonyhawk94
4 жыл бұрын
Will you cover the battle of Bir Hakeim, which signed the grand return of the French foreign legion ?
@podemosurss8316
4 жыл бұрын
One kind of Soviet ration was the "surprise" meat, which was a mixture spam that was mass produced using whatever meat was available, and the "surprise" part was because you usually didn't know what you were eating until opening the can (and sometimes even after). Their rations were made to have as much calories as they could, as the fighting conditions there required a lot of stamina.
@Blazcowitz1943
4 жыл бұрын
And for the grueling winter conditions I imagine.
@podemosurss8316
4 жыл бұрын
@@Blazcowitz1943 That is included within the fighting conditions...
@Ghostsniper1995
4 жыл бұрын
We need a dedicated episode of each food rations for the major countries in ww2
@floydvaughn836
3 жыл бұрын
Go to Steve 1989.
@ericjohnson1289
4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME! My question got answered!
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting it!
@lookythat2
4 жыл бұрын
My father was a US Army MP in North Africa. One of his details was a mission to Sidi bel Abbes to retrieve some German POWs the FFL was holding (and maltreating). He said the journey was the most miserable and challenging experience of the entire war. Commander Charles Lamb, RN, in his memoir _To War in a Stringbag_ recounts his experiences as a POW of the FFL. His experience was that the FFL seemed more sympathetic to Vichy than the Free French, and in any event, did not treat him as an Ally and a comrade.
@williamdonnelly224
2 жыл бұрын
My sister's first husband served in the US army in Viet Nam 1965-66. I remember him telling us that some of the rations they were given were leftovers from WW2.
@PalleRasmussen
4 жыл бұрын
The Foreign Legion in Syria was, AFAICR, 1st Regiment. After the battle, they became assimilated in the 13th DBLE for the rest of the war.
@jeffmcarthur5617
4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's the first time I've heard you refer to "The Great War" instead of "the former series." I hope things are getting patched up with y'all. I admire all of your work.
@Cancoillotteman
4 жыл бұрын
As for Dreyfus, his descendants relatives still live here in Belfort (where Dreyfus was stationned before his arrestation). Actually the descendants of his brother are here a very famous family of politicians (socialists for most of them) and lawyers - the Dreyfus-Schmidt family. Here's if you are interested a link to a wikipedia page about Michel Dreyfus Schmidt, who became senator in his own time (sadly the link is only in French, his page is not developed in the English version) : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Dreyfus-Schmidt
@jakubcesarzdakos5442
4 жыл бұрын
Chair of infinite knowledge? Where can I buy it?
@Jayhawkga
4 жыл бұрын
Ikea most likely.
@petermeter9890
4 жыл бұрын
I recommend the book The Taste of War by Lizzie Cullingham if you want to find out about rations and the role food supplies played...
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@ingolfleiblle6661
4 жыл бұрын
Popular German term for field kitchen: Gullaschkanone. Though often ridiculed by the Landser, it was really appreciated.
@gertvanpeet3120
4 жыл бұрын
Spam,spam , lovely spam...a war invention! "Luncheon meat" on the can.
@robertmorency6335
4 жыл бұрын
The lyric is “Spam, Spam -Wonderful Spam.”
@Justin-rv7oy
4 жыл бұрын
Make a whole episode on US/British/German/Japanese/Italian rations......pppllleeeeaaassssseeeee
@Raskolnikov70
4 жыл бұрын
But the US isn't fighting yet.....
@f-35enjoyer59
4 жыл бұрын
Raskolnikov70 It would still make sense to put them in so they wouldn’t have to do another episode
@karlbrundage7472
4 жыл бұрын
The field rations segment would make a great special episode.............................
@flak509
2 жыл бұрын
I think it was after Sevastopol that the Wehrmacht captured grain silo's that the soviets had tried to light on fire with diesel, but grain doesn't burn so well. It never got burning but was polluted with diesel. Solution by the logistics section was to bake bread with the diesel grain, the troops where not too impressed with diesel smelling bread. Great stuff indy
@MrBgreen88
4 жыл бұрын
Oooohhhh I didn’t know you guys were doing this for WW2. Loved it on the Great War channel. Gonna love seeing this!!
@miguelangelsimonfernandez5498
4 жыл бұрын
you could talk about erbewurst. the staple soup of the germans in WWI and WWII. This pea, redered fat and pork belly soup was the mainstaple of german armed forces since WW I and WW II until just about 1918 or 1919, when production was no longer deemed profitable. I believe there is a similar soup still sold in Sweden. This "pea sausage" was so called because it was supplied in a sausage like package made or dried, individually packed, lozenges that only required warm water to make the soup
@iacopoguidi7871
4 жыл бұрын
Episode 10 and every time im still expecting to hear the line "the chair of wisdom and answer your questions about the first world war".
@gleisbauer25
4 жыл бұрын
I like the lighting with the shadow of the bomber on the map.
@twitchshot7267
4 жыл бұрын
Italian food rations are a good representation of the kid whose mom gives him a pb&j on whole wheat for him at school
@richardross7219
4 жыл бұрын
I thought that Dreyfus's son served in the US Army as an intelligence officer who had great success interrogating nazis. His son Richard, the actor, once told a good story about that, on the History Channel, many years ago. Another good video. Good Luck, Rick
@ShanaCarp
4 жыл бұрын
He's not related. Dreyfus and its variants is a semi-common among Ashkenazim with roots in France, Germany, and Switzerland
@CT9905.
4 жыл бұрын
Very, very informative.
@AnEnemy100
3 жыл бұрын
It was a French Foriegn Legion battalion manned by Spanish Republicans (nick name La Nueve) that liberated the Hotel d’Ville in Paris. They are visible in de Gaulle’s victory parade by the half tracks bearing the names of Spanish battles etc. Teruel, Guadalajara, Espana Cani. These Spaniards fought all the way to the Eagles Nest. Highly motivated anti fascists who earned the respect of the French military commanders.
@podemosurss8316
4 жыл бұрын
4:53 The 13th Demi-Brigade is an interesting unit as its first battalion was almost entirely formed out of Spanish republican refugees who had fled the country after the civil war. They fought well in Norway and in Africa, in engagements such as Bir Hackeim and the battle of El Alamein, until the unit was re-organised with the 2nd Free French Armoured Division under general Leclerc. One of the motor companies of the Leclerc Division would be made up entirely of Spanish republicans and French officers who had served with the International Brigades, its name was the 9th Motor Rifle Company, nicknamed 'La Nueve' (The Ninth in Spanish), and they fought using both the French and Spanish "tricolor" (French and Spanish republican flags). They had a leading role in the liberation of Paris.
@voiceofraisin3778
4 жыл бұрын
Rafael Gomez Nieto, the last known survivor of the unit died three weeks ago www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/01/ex-soldier-death-casts-light-spaniards-helped-liberate-paris-rafael-gomez-nieto. Managed to survive the Franco, Mussolini and Hitler, finally got finished off by C-19
@hachwarwickshire292
4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that it was Spaniards that liberated Paris ? 🤭 Excellent 🙂
@podemosurss8316
4 жыл бұрын
@@hachwarwickshire292 They were the first allied unit to enter Paris and took some key positions. There are pictures, for example this is one of them parading inmediately after the liberation: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/La_nueve_erfgheeg.jpg
@almast2755
4 жыл бұрын
3:20 I think the "meat" Indy is refering to is called "Leberwurst" in Germany
@Ystadcop
4 жыл бұрын
Superb, Indy. I wrote my dissertation on France under the German Occupation, you have the Affaire Dreyfus bang on. Re rations, I seem to remember talking to a very old veteran of the Winter War (via his insane, wild Finnish granddaughter who was at Uni with me) that his ski patrols made the Red Army field kitchens a priority target for destruction because meetings for meals were used as propaganda opportunities for the political commisars to address troops. They did not want soldiers conferring together over a tin of Spam. (Spam, Spam, Spam, long live Monty Python). Thanks so much for your vids. I'm quite sure you and your crews are just scraping along financially in these weird times. I wish I could contribute but as a pensioner with a breadline income and champagne lifestyle I'm about at the stage where I have to sell my organs. (No, not the Hammond B12).
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you - and don't sell your organs - we appreciate your views, and organs are usually an essential part of staying alive... santé!
@thechatteringmagpie
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Indy I now have a craving for cornbeef. I have a tin in the pantry.
@Jargolf86
2 жыл бұрын
The pink Meat with the Fat around it is still Today a very well liked Food in Germany, called "Schmalzfleisch", best produced by the Brandname "Drei Sterne". Still last Years, stil very delicious, cold or warm an still VERY rich on Energy. You can buy it at Amazon around the World :D
@t5ruxlee210
4 жыл бұрын
La Légion étrangère was notable for the high quality of its food under all conditions. The fact that its most junior officers were most often there as their initial postings and were usually top graduates of Saint Cyr (the French West Point), was an indication that they were Frenchmen already destined for high rank in the future anywhere in the French Army.
@allanhughes7859
4 жыл бұрын
My father always told me the R.A.F. were fed better food to the point that if the army were close by for any reason they would wait til the Raf had finished then leg it over to where they had been eating and finish off what was left over. Not sure how true this was as my father always exagirarted what had happened but did come out with some classic tailes bless him !!!!!!!!!!!
@JagerLange
4 жыл бұрын
On the topic of ration quality and what could be expected etc. - I paraphrase the Geneva Convention's wording on how to feed PoWs as something like "as you would your own troops, or close enough". In the case of Britain, they were capable of feeding Axis prisoners to the same quality as the infantryman in the field, to the point where German and Italian prisoners in the UK were eating generally better than British civilians were.
@tyetotodile3240
4 жыл бұрын
I have a question for out of the foxholes, Irwin Rommel had an amazing nickname as the dessert fox, and I have read hearing it would draw moral from allied troops, or give it to axis, were there any other nicknames for any specific soldiers or generals that had similar effects? If this makes it thank you so much for your hard work, you and your team, you make a great show.
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great question for Out of the Foxholes. You can submit questions on our Community Forum (community.timeghost.tv/c/Out-of-the-Foxholes-Qs). We'll make a selection and cover the most interesting ones in the show.
@ianwilkinson4602
4 жыл бұрын
Very entertaining and well informed, thank you.
@heinerledietrich5475
4 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much the same system as german military canteens use today: some bread with jam, meat and so on for brakfast, a hot meal for lunch and usually some wierd leftover stuff for dinner with (again) some bread.
@ldmitruk
4 жыл бұрын
I recall in the rules for Campaign for North Africa, the Italian army had to have extra water in order to cook their pasta rations. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Campaign_for_North_Africa
@HSMiyamoto
4 жыл бұрын
Re: Japanese Army rations. My understanding is that Japanese soldiers were trained to survive on a few handfuls of white rice and a pickled plum, or "umeboshi." The pickled plum would be in the center of the white rice, which made the meal resemble the Japanese flag. Banzai! I suspect the Japanese soldier also received some dried fish, etc. Frankly, quite a bit of Japanese cusine is naturally conducive to being part of a field ration. Not having to ship around meat, fresh vegetables, or even dairy products would have helped ease Japanese logistical issues, and made the Japanese soldier almost self-sufficient, compared to his Allied opponent.
@Briselance
4 жыл бұрын
But then, how would they have compensated the nutrient intake from meat, fresh veggies, and dairy products well enough to be still combat-efficient?
@stevekaczynski3793
4 жыл бұрын
@@Briselance They were vulnerable to nutrition deficiencies. The Japanese rescued some of their surviving soldiers from Guadalcanal in "Operation Ke" in 1943, and due to prolonged malnutrition many could only eat porridge on the rescue ships, if they could even keep that down, and suffered from uncontrollable diarrhea.
@drod6044
4 жыл бұрын
the film "J'ACCUSE" is about the Dreyfus affair
@waardlafrance110
4 жыл бұрын
Essaye pas rallumer la polémique sur les pédophiles qui évitent les années de prison grâce à leur réseau politique ^^
@H3RTZ0G
4 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather was proudly ordered to the "Gulaschkanone". I think there is no translation needed ;-) (ok here it is anyway: Gulaschkanone = contains of the two words "Gulasch" goulash and "Kanone" cannon and is a slang word for field kitchen.)
@randyclary8635
3 жыл бұрын
I live in Asia, and am curious if there are any plans in the making of a series on the Vietnam War? Hope so.
@billyboots14
4 жыл бұрын
FYI, this isn't in the OFTF playlist. I happened across it because it was recommended for me, but otherwise I would have missed it.
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks I'll add it!
@TutorWindow
4 жыл бұрын
I sure like the way you present things.
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@harshlight7
4 жыл бұрын
During their winter encirclement at Stalingrad, some German soldiers died of "rabbit starvation" because all they had left to eat was canned, lean meat -- this diet was so low in carbs, fat and vitamins that their bodies had no real fuel source. German officers who examined the bodies noted in their diaries that the dead soldiers were so gaunt that their ribs were visible once their clothing was removed. They were horrified that their men were starving to death while still nominally provisioned.
@SergeantAradir
4 жыл бұрын
3:46 Ooooooooor the recreation of such a ration done today was done with much better ingredients then in 1918 ;-)
@living2ndchildhood347
4 жыл бұрын
I have learned to look at an army’s mess kits to determine that army’s philosophy in regards to feeding of their troops. The Americans and British Commonwealth troops had mess kits that were meant to be eaten off of. German, Japanese, Russian, and other armies had messkits that were cooking pots and the lids served as cups or bowls. These troops were expected to forage for much of their rations and cook what they found, for themselves. An episode dedicated to field rations would be interesting. American troops had C rations, K rations, D rations, etc. The pound cake was delicious and so dense that it could be used as a rock to defend oneself, was the joke.
@simonh6371
4 жыл бұрын
True to a point, especially about the Americans whose flat messkits were designed primarily for collecting food from field kitchens, they could be clicked together using the pan handle and held in one hand. However if they were unable to get to a field kitchen they tended to use their canteen cups, which are excellent and very popular nowadays among bushcrafters, and finally in the late 1990s the British Army got the message and started issuing metal cups. Not sure if the square mess tins are still issued but they were right up into the 1990s. These are actually also designed to be used as small washbasins in the field, as soldiers should wash and shave every morning. Up until the 90s most meals were in small tins, which were heated up in a bain marie fashion in the mess tins, meaning you could use the hot water afterwards for a hot drink and/or washing/shaving, plus you didn't have to worry about cleaning the mess tin afterwards. As to the German messkits, the design of which hasn't changed much in more than a century and which have been replicated by many armies of neighbouring countries to the East, they were/are also designed to be used at field canteens, the two shallow pans on the Bundeswehr & NVA mess kit can be clipped together and held in one hand, with the deep pot held in the same hand by the bail handle.
@jackw97224
3 жыл бұрын
Le Chambon is a story worth reading.
@jhnshep
4 жыл бұрын
@6:18 I served 7 years in the legion and I never heard about this, interesting, though it doesn't surprise me that in the end all were buried together, the devis of the legion is legio patria nostra, the legion is our fatherland, doesn't really matter what happened outside of that idea.
@WorldWarTwo
4 жыл бұрын
Respect
@evanulven8249
4 жыл бұрын
That tie is a force of nature.
@nirfz
4 жыл бұрын
Two things i have to comment on: -Talking about the german rations and not mentioning what has been kept since WW1 to this day? (well maybe not, but at least a couple of years ago it still was a common part of certain rations not just in germany) Dosenbrot! (canned bread) A few years ago a german TV show bought a few WW2 cans of Dosenbrot opened one, got the bread tested by a food laboratory and did a taste test. Was still ok. (Dosenbrot is an experience of it's own.) The second thing: about those cold ration cans: i read the story of a soldier which covered a big chunk of he german withdrawl fighting on the eastern front towards west and he explained what they did with the empty cans in the trenches at the front... They used to...how do i word this...aim well and get the result of food that was processed by their body into the empty can, and then hurl it towards the enemy. No symbolic meaning in this, they just often had no time to dig latrines, and if nature calls, you have to do something, and don't want to contaminate your own position.
@stevekaczynski3793
4 жыл бұрын
Three French Foreign Legion regiments were founded in 1939-40 consisting mostly of expatriate Spanish Republicans, but they were disbanded following the German invasion. Some fled into the Vichy zone, others were rounded up and ended in German camps like Mauthausen, others joined the French Resistance in southern France.
@philstory2556
4 жыл бұрын
1:00 GOD DAMN HE STACKIN THAT MEAT
@jameslebron2403
4 жыл бұрын
Still can't get over the "Chair of Infinite Knowledge" moniker
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277
4 жыл бұрын
This was a really cool episode - especially the story about German ration from WW1
@hannahskipper2764
4 жыл бұрын
Finger guns for Indy trying out German 1918 rations!! Now I want to try em! Great episode.
@TINCANsquid
4 жыл бұрын
Barbara Tuchman( The Guns of August) covers the Dreyfus Affair nicely in her book The Proud Tower. I highly rec. both books.
@avanticurecanti9998
4 жыл бұрын
"We've got a can here labelled 'Mussolini's Ass.' Nice! Alright, let's get this out onto a tray!"
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