Thanks! Very helpful video! Definitely gonna go pick up a HiBy R3 , I have a large flac music library and I like to listen to it at home and on the go, HiBy seems perfect because of its size, buttons and 2TB expandable memory! Keep up the great content man!
@PortaFi
2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@DaraTzatzara
5 жыл бұрын
thank you for your reviews, they're the only ones I go to. Will the R3 decode MQA if used as USB DAC to phone?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
sorry, I didn't test that
@GarettChamberlin
5 жыл бұрын
As I am new to this community I was hoping you might be able to answer a question for me. When switching over from a newer phone such as the Note 9 over to an inexpensive dap, how much sound improvement will be noticable?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a hard question actually. To be honest, don't expect a striking difference from the early beginning. Usually, better sound is less colored and "effective," so it won't overwhelm you unless you know what you're looking for. But after some usage, most people don't want to come back :) It's like ketchup, it's tasty, and you can add it to any dish, to get more taste, but it would be the taste of ketchup. and when you got used to it, dishes without ketchup will sound "less tasty," but after some usage, you'll start enjoying meal itself and more subtle nuances of taste I hope I've managed to explain my thought well enough :) But of course, some people simply didn't hear any difference or find it not valuable. so in the end, it's a really subjective matter
@DeepishMoog
3 жыл бұрын
What's up! A bit late to this party, but making the same comparison. I like these two, well, the R3 Pro Saber perhaps is the latest variant of the R3 (they're both still about $199). They are quite similar. And I could probably be happy with either (I don't 'need' streaming, but it'd be nice, I do have subscriptions). Wondering which one is most likely to become obsolete or slower faster. And, which one has the better Bluetooth connection for headphone - and/or streaming from phone via BT through the DAP to HPs. While both I think have BT 5.0(?) and wireless earbuds aren't ideal of course for high quality music (although LDAC is sweet) I like to keep my options open. Walking, commuting, etc around I use TWS earbuds. At home, work etc I use full-size HPs. Both uses I find necessary. So, do these DAPs still hold up in 2021? Great review, and I appreciate it.
@PortaFi
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, thank you well, as M6 is officially discontinued, and R3 is still in production, so probably R3 can be considered as a more future-proof as for BT, I didn't do any particular tests, but on the day-to-day usage they both showed a good results as for 2021, of course I'd like to see some more recent models, but this segment became barely profitable for the manufacturers, so I doubt there will be lots of new models
@mozahelon
5 жыл бұрын
On 4:55 What happened with Fiio M6's battery indicator? Suddenly it dropped from 30% to 16%. Actually the only thing which made me worried when deciding to choose between M6 and R3 was the battery life. In the end I ordered an M6 (maybe will arrive here by Jan/Feb). Even though you also mentioned at the end of this video that M6 has better battery life but when I saw that battery drop, I have to be honest that it makes me a bit worried again about it.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't pay attention to indictor numbers. It's a fresh new device and it requires few cycles of full charge to calibrate battery indication properly. In regular tests I've got 10+ hours of work, but I can't yet guarantee that this issue with indicator isn't persist
@mozahelon
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi Thank you for the info. Yeah hopefully the battery life will be as advertised. Nice comparison video. :D
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
I hope too :)
@rosario1264
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, can I use an amplifier on it? For example, a tempotec sonada hd. Or is it not worth using an amplifier on the fi6 m6?
@PortaFi
4 жыл бұрын
yes, this players can be used as a transport both with DACs and AMPs. as for "does it worth it", it's a totally subjective question and answer depends on your taste and IEMs you're using
@hanszimmer5580
5 жыл бұрын
great review, as always. thank you. one question please. which ui is better and faster?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
R3 is a bit faster (as it's not Android), but M6 is much more feature reach (as it's Android) :)
@hanszimmer5580
5 жыл бұрын
thank you very much.
@ArjunPadmanabhan
5 жыл бұрын
Search option is available in both DAPs?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
m6 has one, but I don't remember about R3
@ArjunPadmanabhan
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi is it possible for you to confirm on R3?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@ArjunPadmanabhan sorry, I don't have one right now, it's better to ask on Head-Fi in owners' thread
@alzearafat
5 жыл бұрын
One question please, Can I play Spotify offline on Hiby?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
no, you can't
@alzearafat
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi thanks
@loonation2185
5 жыл бұрын
this or the shanling m2s, xduoo x20? soundwise
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
this one, if you don't more power, X20 if you need it
@loonation2185
5 жыл бұрын
thanks
@berlin_7301
5 жыл бұрын
Fiio can play deezer?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
M6 can play Deezer, Spotify, Qobuz, Tidal and some other streaming services
@marshalun
5 жыл бұрын
Добрый день. Немного не в тему, но где спросить не знаю. Тут сейчас скидки хорошие на A&K AK70. Стоит брать? Цена чуть больше чем у Fiio X5III или M9.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
я бы не брал, первое поколение АК70
@marshalun
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi Забыл уточнить MKII со скидкой...
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
а, MK II - уже ОК вариант, вполне :) если вам не нужен стриминг
@kostarica9222
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi а что для стриминга посоветуете?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@kostarica9222 что-то из современных плееров, с поддержкой нативных приложений
@busyboxst7
5 жыл бұрын
R3 can output coax from the USBC... Pretty sure M6 cannot.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
most probably it can't :) never used this feature in real life
@busyboxst7
5 жыл бұрын
Useful for car audio. Or people connecting to external dac or dac/headphone amp.
@Raaj_new
5 жыл бұрын
One more question.... which has better sound quality fiio M6 or Hidizs Ap80 ? What would u choose?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
there is no clear winner here, it depends on your sonic preferences, AP80 is a bit more detailed, it's also neutral and a bit brighter. I'd go for M6 as I really need streaming
@Raaj_new
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi thanks :)
@Raaj_new
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi and which is louder M6 or Ap80?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
sorry, I don't remember exact specs, as far as I remember, output power is abut the same, but you can google their output power and compare
@Raaj_new
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi ok... Thanks :)
@bklynrickel
5 жыл бұрын
Finally complete TIDAL MQA streaming on the M6 through Android. That makes it the clear winner for me.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I doubt it has more sense in MQA on inexpensive device, but from other point of view, it's better to have feature and don't use it, then need a feature that is absent
@bklynrickel
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi I don't know, but it sure sounds great to me. Crystal clear. Beautiful.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@bklynrickel well, that's the main thing in any audio-related discussion. glad you like it
@AsimSiddiqui007
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi im not sure what you mean by referring to MQA. I know its a codec, but can you explain what you were trying to say?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@AsimSiddiqui007 yes, MQA is a codec, designed first of all for improving streaming. It allows to transfer highres audio with lower bandwidth. And Tidal actively uses MQA. Nevertheless, I think that it won't add much benefit on enry-level devices
@carlosXromano
5 жыл бұрын
Does not really provide any interesting information.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
you can always select "Don't show more videos from this channel" :)
@MrStarlight99
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison.
@dirtfriend
5 жыл бұрын
ended up buying a fiio, even though i think the hiby looks nicer (plus, embedded linux? pretty cool). but still, i can't justify paying like 80EUR more when they've got pretty much the exact same feature-set. guess i'll know if i made the right choice come thursday :^)
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
well, fiio is more feature-packed (more streaming services, the offline mode in Tidal, etc) but anyway, 80 euros difference is too much indeed
@azad9294
5 жыл бұрын
M6 or sony a55 in term of sound quality?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
M6
@a.t.a.f.s932
5 жыл бұрын
M6 👍👍
@Stef-08
4 жыл бұрын
Hello sir.. If we ignore the streaming feature, Which make you happier ? (in terms of UI experience, hands on feeling, build quality, appearance & design) I just want to know your perspective.. 😁🙏 thank you
@PortaFi
4 жыл бұрын
R3 is a bit faster and smoother, as it doesn't run android, besides that, for me they are pretty much the same. Both are compact, both are well-build, etc. Main difference is the sound anyway
@Stef-08
4 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi ahh understood Sir.. Thank you for sharing 😁 Just bought hiby r3 and it feels nice.. Although sometimes the screen is freeze, but it's okay..
@PortaFi
4 жыл бұрын
@@Stef-08 congratulations on your purchase
@DenisDamulira23
5 жыл бұрын
The newer ESS ES9028Q2M DAC has Native support for DSD256.ES9018 i think doesn't.could be wrong
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that, but I don't think it matters in this price range
@shaneee3113
5 жыл бұрын
I am considering these 2 daps and the opus 1. What is your opinion on the opus 1?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
OPUS#1s is better then those two, as for "regular" OPUS#1, I don't have it for pretty long time, so I can't compare
@shaneee3113
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi thank you for the quick reply
@qazifaisal5
5 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting to see this comparing of these two.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
yep, two really good DAPs :)
@MyMuMiK
2 жыл бұрын
на русском нет обзора?
@PortaFi
2 жыл бұрын
есть, все обзоры выходят парно
@mikepa7238
3 жыл бұрын
Love your heavy Russian accent. Что сказать...молодец, спасибо!
@PortaFi
3 жыл бұрын
It's not russian (despite being slavic), но в любом случае спасибо
@qazifaisal5
4 жыл бұрын
So my hiby R3 pro have terrible Bluetooth connection issues how is the fiio m6 Bluetooth connection. I'm using my hiby R3 pro with moondrop iems they sound great but I feel at this point a stable Bluetooth connection should not be an issue.
@PortaFi
4 жыл бұрын
sorry, I haven't made any comparisons of BT connection. in regular daily usage with TWS IEMs and full-size headphones they worked equally OK for me
@DeepishMoog
3 жыл бұрын
Great question. Read some good and bad experiences with Daps in general concerning Bluetooth connectivity. The budget daps infrequently have BT 5.0, and usually still 4.2, but should connect either way. Could possibly be that player needs a firmware update, if you just unboxed it, if you haven't already tried that. Quite possibly your earbuds need firmware update too. But I think with the daps, wireless is just an afterthought for some manufacturers.
@qazifaisal5
4 жыл бұрын
which has better Bluetooth connectivity is there any cutting in and out.
@PortaFi
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't do any precise tests, in rough evaluation they were about on par
@sensenpratama
3 жыл бұрын
is the fiio still wort in 2021? I want to pruchase my first dap, which best for natural sounds? my whislist Ap80, shanling q1, fiio m5, hiby r3 /r2
@PortaFi
3 жыл бұрын
> is the fiio still wort in 2021? it's discontinued, so probably it's better to focus on more recent models. M6 is still a good player, but most probably there won't be new firmwares and so on > which best for natural sounds? AP80 and Shanling Q1 also reviews say than HiBy R3 Saber is pretty neutral, but I didn't test it myself
@sensenpratama
3 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi or should going to shanling m2x secondhand, its at same price with brand new q1. Its looks so interesting feature with the build quality and shanling ui on m2x.
@PortaFi
3 жыл бұрын
@@sensenpratama sorry, I don't have M2X for quite a long time, and I didn't remember it well. By memory it's better than Q1, but I'm not confident here )))
@JeanV1986
3 жыл бұрын
4:55, wow fiio M6 battery drops from 30% to 16% in a second 0_0
@PortaFi
3 жыл бұрын
yep, calibration can be sometimes not perfect on a new device
@dreysnaps
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison, quite detailed again as usual! It's a good thing you brought up the difference in power delivery for SE and Balanced, that's really one of the questions I had for it! I also like that you mentioned the slight difference between sound signature between the two. There are some people in the forums who are complaining about the lack of bass in the FiiO M6, but I figured that they've been comparing them with DAPs/DACs that are quite colored and they actually just prefer a more colored sound than a more neutral sound sound. Hmmn, would the Hiby R3 and it's slightly recessed mids, be closer sounding to the Shanling M0 with it's bass boost? Haha, nitpicking here, but I really like the bookmarks you add in your videos where you point out where certain portions of the review/comparison is in and I hope you'd continue adding that in the future videos. Lastly, I know people have been recommending it before, but I think you should also try getting the Sony NWA-55. I read somewhere that they might be planning a europe release soon so hopefully it'll be more accessible for you. I was able to compare the player with Shanling M0 in one of our local shops, and I think it sounds much better than the Shanling M0 (no FiiO M6 here yet sadly). I dunno, but it seemed to have better clarity and sound stage. It would be nice to have an updated mid low/mid tier DAP again a few months from now, with the addition of the new players and releases. Cheers!
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
> but I figured that they've been comparing them with DAPs/DACs that are quite colored and they actually just prefer a more colored sound than a more neutral sound sound sure, moreover, if you need some coloration, it's much simpler to achieve it via headphones, not via DAP > Hmmn, would the Hiby R3 and it's slightly recessed mids, be closer sounding to the Shanling M0 with it's bass boost? probably, but R3 is noticeably better them M0: better control, better dynamic, tighter lows… well, I'm among those who don't like sound of M0 :) > and I hope you'd continue adding that in the future videos sure, at least for long videos > but I think you should also try getting the Sony NWA-55 I will try to get it, but actually, NWA-35 and 45 was a huge disappointments, great UI and UX, and pretty lifeless flat sound Hope A55 will be better in this matter thank you for your feedback and have a nice day!
@dreysnaps
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi Agree with your points, and I hope you'll like the NWA55 better than it's siblings. Sadly, with a quick search I can't seem to find any information on the difference between 45 and 55, although when I tried the two, I also seemed to like the sound of the 55 better (with all extra Sony effects disabled). I might just have a placebo effect on seeing the price difference the two models, and I subconsciously liked the more expensive one better.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@dreysnaps I think Sony will drop A55 price in about a year, it's pretty common, at least on some markets
@dreysnaps
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi Ohh, I don't think my country is affected by those price drops. BTR1 is being sold alongside the BTR1K in our stores here at the same price in the official retail stores for FiiO, and even if there is a sale, it's a blanket price reduction for all items at 10%. Haha, I'm just waiting for the FiiO M6 to arrive in our retailers, as from your reviews, and impressions I've read, it seems to be the right device for me right now... Although I'll demo it at store first before buying. :) Another nice comparison in the future would be the AS06, ZS7 and maybe the C10 if you get them. The C16 might be overkill, although there seems to be a planned price reduction for it.
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@dreysnaps yep, I was thinking about Ukraine more :) we have pretty good price drops sometimes
@bklynrickel
5 жыл бұрын
Digging into the software, how do TIDAL selections look on the M6? Similar to the R3 in presentation?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
no, M6 uses native Tidal client, so they looks like on any Android smartphone
@bklynrickel
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi Thank you for your reply. Love your down to earth reviews!!
@mattgiunt
5 жыл бұрын
Does Hiby have Apple airplay?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
not sure, sorry. please ask on head-fi or check specs on the official site
@arecineimportaciones
5 жыл бұрын
I can look vídeo ?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
no, they don't support video playback, at least officially
4 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi m6 support oficially vlc app... Si, yes it can play video, and even up to 1080p mp4 and almost every matroska container....
@PortaFi
4 жыл бұрын
@ thank you for clarification, I didn't follow the FiiO's whitelist, it's good that they've added VLC, and even better that this tiny thing is capable of decoding video
@unchartedm9413
5 жыл бұрын
2.5mm of r3 vs m6?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
it depends on your preferences. R3 is a bit warmer, M6 is more neutral
@christophergarrido2802
5 жыл бұрын
So the M6 has offline mode on Tidal but not the Hiby?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
yes, FiiO M6 uses standard Android client for Tidal, supporting offline mode
@christophergarrido2802
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi Thanks for the reply! 🙏
@polonavarro6177
2 жыл бұрын
The hiby cant play offline from.tidal?
@DBAMAN7
5 жыл бұрын
Which do you prefer personally?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
M6 because I use streaming services actively
@fomocajuable
3 жыл бұрын
R3 decoding MQA on Streaming from TIDAL ?
@fomocajuable
3 жыл бұрын
From the Master quality on TIDAL
@ninjafrog8419
5 жыл бұрын
So m6 is the winner..right??!
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
no :) actually, I don't know who is the winner, as it depends on your tastes and preferences
@ninjafrog8419
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi 100% agree.. but m6 still though
@eatmoreporkporky4342
5 жыл бұрын
Ninjafrog84 Lol it’s a stealth winner ;) ;)
@Raaj_new
5 жыл бұрын
Hi.... Fiio M9 or Fiio M6? Plz do answer
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
M9 of course, if you're ok with paying more
@Raaj_new
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi i mean is it worth to pay more on Fiio M9 over M6? almost double money
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@Raaj_new honestly, I can't answer this question. it depends on your tastes and wealth. if extra $150 is a big amount of money for you, definitely stay with M6, M9 is better, but it's not worth spending all money for it. if extra $150 isn't an issue, I'd suggest paying for it, sound improvement is audible. in any case, music it's what the most important, not devices itself :)
@Raaj_new
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi Thanks Bro
@tichyzishh3379
5 жыл бұрын
@@Raaj_new to be honest the difference is not worth 150+. I would get M6 and use the rest of the money to her the DM6 iem.👍
@deadline7610
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good review. I just found out my M6 does not support Amazon HD, not sure why ? any idea what's the next step up not just a fiio product ? thanks
@PortaFi
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I don't know anything about Amazon HD, as it's not available in my country, so it's better to contact FiiO's support As for next step, there are so many good DAP in middle segment now: FiiO M11, Shanling M6, HiBY R5 and so on
@georgenevrela7961
5 жыл бұрын
oh, la, la, this akzent is very hard to understand...
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
well, my experience of communication with native speakers proofed me that they totally understood me of course, I'm working on pronunciation improvement, but it's not a fast process luckily, there are lots of other reviewers without accent, and KZitem has a great feature "Don't show videos from this channel", so you can select it, and never see me again :)
@florianperrin8424
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi I'm not native english speaking (I'm French) and I find I totally understand the comments in all of the videos of the channel :) For me most of the accents are nice ! (I work with a lot of european colleages, Russians, Brazilians, Japanese... people and for most of them, I can understand their english...)
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@florianperrin8424 > For me most of the accents are nice ! well, you're the lucky one, french accent is, probably, the best accent one can have :) > I can understand their english... yep, after a few trips to LA I understood, that accents doesn't matter, and in 95% you can understand speaker. there are too heavy accents, but they are really rare
@bloodgrail81
5 жыл бұрын
I am American and I understood you perfectly, great review.
@AsimSiddiqui007
5 жыл бұрын
Please do comparison between m6 and m9
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/k4x_0JesiJ5nrHY
@doubleXnickel
5 жыл бұрын
Hiby has a 20k track scan limit but does the fiio m6 have such a limit?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
sorry, I don't know, I never being even close to that limit :) I think it's better to ask FiiO's support
@rockfella27
5 жыл бұрын
Man 20k songs really??? WTF
@sfzdgxfhycgjuvkyihopu
5 жыл бұрын
Я вот все думаю.... Может взять такого "малыша", чтобы слушать музыку вне дома и т.п., а дома уже подключать к комбайну и там уже миллиономные мониторы. По сути же где, вне дома, можно насладиться качеством звука? Или нет.... Кто какие мысли по поводу выскажет? Может кто-то делал что-то подобное?
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
не совсем понятно, в чём ваш вопрос только вы сами можете решать, что и откуда вам слушать :)
@sfzdgxfhycgjuvkyihopu
5 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi согласен. Еще и под англоязычным обзором оставил комментарий) Да просто хочется что-то универсального. Ежу понятно, что так не бывает, а хочется - отсюда и проблемы с формулированием мыслей))))
@PortaFi
5 жыл бұрын
@@sfzdgxfhycgjuvkyihopu ну, тут никто особо не поможет
@ankit111987
4 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews, but maybe they could be a bit longer, describing in more detail, sound quality and nuances of the UX. I recently got a Fiio fh1, paired with Samsung S8+, initially loved it since its quite bright, but as I began to listen more I noticed a great deal of sibilance( while playing EDM and remixes) and a high noise floor; but sound stage is quite good. I say sound stage is great because I stacked with Fiio q1 mark 1, I noticed that the sound stage became flat, 2D. but sibilance was reduced and highs revealed details, overall wasn't favorable. I am not a fan of bright sounds and find them fatiguing, they are great for a wow experience when first listen to them. Anyway coming to my question, right now I am looking for a DAP to nicely pair with FH1, I am considering M6, R3(I stream from Apple music, but streaming can be done paired with S8+, no not a big deal), R5, basically anything below R5's price Does M6 support Apple music? I heard M6 is quite laggy.
@PortaFi
4 жыл бұрын
> I love your reviews, but maybe they could be a bit longer, describing in more detail, sound quality and nuances of the UX I'm trying to do comparisons a bit shorter, as many people prefer brief reviews, and for UX and other details exists full reviews > I am looking for a DAP to nicely pair with FH1, I am considering M6, R3(I stream from Apple music, but streaming can be done paired with S8+, no not a big deal), R5, basically anything below R5's price actually, currently, I recommend 3 options: HiBy R3 for a warmer sound, HidizsAP80 for a bit brighter signature, FiiO M6 as "in-between" option. but HiBy and Shanling are releasing "pro" options, I didn't test 'em, but probably they'll be better than regular > Does M6 support Apple music? no, it doesn't, only as a receiver from a smartphone > I heard M6 is quite laggy. I'm not 100% agree here. it's definitely not fast, but *for me* it's still acceptable
@ankit111987
4 жыл бұрын
@@PortaFi Thanks for the reply. Right after I asked you, I did some more research, I found apple is supported, but not sure. Do you know when they will come out with pro versions? How does Fiio M9 compare to R3, R5, M6, Shanling m2x, and ibasso dx160 in terms of sound tonality?
@PortaFi
4 жыл бұрын
@@ankit111987 > I did some more research, I found apple is supported, but not sure I'm not sure too, but here is an official whitelist, and there is no Apple Music www.fiio.com/newsinfo/139014.html > Do you know when they will come out with pro versions? HiBy already released the first batch of R3Pros, but they seem to be sold out quickly. Hidizs said they need dome more time > How does Fiio M9 compare to R3, R5, M6, Shanling m2x, and ibasso dx160 in terms of sound tonality? roughly speaking, it's better than R3/M6/AP80/M2x, but a bit worse than DX160 and R5. if you can stretch your budget, DX160 or R5 is highly recommended :)
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