Yes you are! Thanks for the visit! You are awesome 👍 Take care dear and stay blessed😃 Kind regards
@bahsarabi4234
3 жыл бұрын
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@MathZoneKH
3 жыл бұрын
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@durgalimbu9739
2 жыл бұрын
@@PreMath sir so long process ? cannot use short method ?
@hahatseck
2 жыл бұрын
I first use sine rule and have cosX=15/18 sinX=sqrt(11)/6 and Area=18^2/2*cos2Xsin2X+ 30^2/2*sinXcosX =18^2sinXcosX(2(cosX)^2-1)+ 30^2/2*sinXcosX =80sqrt(11)
@swinkscalibur8506
2 жыл бұрын
As many have noted, using the sine law and the double angle formula for sine gives cos(x) = 5/6, and thus EC = 25, then using the observations you had you can easily see that AE = 7 and thus AC=32. The Pythagorean theorem used in triangle BCE gives BE, and you can finish with the standard Area formula. In the end you get an exact answer with radicals and you don't have to do any tricky algebra.
@montynorth3009
3 жыл бұрын
18/Sin x = 30/Sin 2x. But Sin 2x = 2.Sin x . Cos x. So 18/Sin x = 30/2.Sin x . Cos x Multiplying both sides by Sin x we get:- 18 = 30/2Cos x. 2 Cos x = 30/18 Cos x =30/36 = 0.8333 Cos x(-1) = 33.56 degrees. So back to the triangle, the angle ABC is 180-33.56-67.12 = 79.32 degrees. Area = 1/2 x18 x30 x Sin 79.32 = 265.323 Ans.
@robertlynch7520
3 жыл бұрын
I got the same answer, the same way; see my write-up herein. My final part is a little different, computing 𝒄 and 𝒅 parts o the baseline, but ultimately, quite similar approaches.
@PreMath
3 жыл бұрын
Great tip! I'll make another vid with trigonometry and will be uploaded by tomorrow hopefully. Thanks Monty for the feedback. You are awesome 👍 Take care dear and stay blessed😃 Love and prayers from Arizona, USA!
@armacham
3 жыл бұрын
That's basically the way I went except I didn't reduce it to decimals, I kept the radicals, so I was able to get an exact answer for sinx, cosx, sin2x, cos2x, the base, the height, and the area. The other identity to use is (sin x)^2 + (cos x)^2 = 1. With that, you can use the value of cos x to solve for the value of sin x. Knowing that cos x = 5/6, (cos x)^2 = 25/36, so (sin x)^2 = 11/36, so sin x = +- sqrt(11)/6. And you know sinx must be positive because angles in a triangle are between 0-180 degrees and sin x is always positive when x is between 0 and 180, so you can reject the negative solution. sinx = sqrt(11)/6. From there it's trivial to calculate sin2x and cos2x using the same formulas. With the values of sinx, cosx, sin2x, and cos2x, and the side lengths you're given at the start, it's easy to split the triangle into two right triangles and apply the formulas (sine = opposite/hyp, cos = adj/hyp) to calculate the length of the base and the height of the triangle and then apply the formula a = bh/2
@pankajkumarpandey6658
3 жыл бұрын
I have also said the same but you have solved completely. Excellent
@calspace
2 жыл бұрын
I have been out of school too long, so the final equation you use is not familiar to me. But I’ll follow the same up until that steps. Then I used the sin equations to find the base which was 32. I then found the semiperimeter, which is 40, and used Heron’s formula. Area = sqrt(p * (p-a) * (p-b) * (p-c))
@charlesbromberick4247
2 жыл бұрын
Profe - Sometimes it amazes me how many interesting problems you can pull out of a few triangles, squares and circles!
@sumangupta1737
3 жыл бұрын
sine rule makes the process a lot simpler..
@nitinarora5719
3 жыл бұрын
1/2 ab sinC
@anonim6160
3 жыл бұрын
In which triangle
@anonim6160
3 жыл бұрын
nvm
@sumangupta1737
3 жыл бұрын
@@anonim6160 use sine rule and use the formula of sin3x to find sinx (i.e included angle of given sides..)
@sadtear796
3 жыл бұрын
Thats right
@chessdev5320
3 жыл бұрын
1) Use sine law to find value of angle x. 2) Use law of cosines to find the third side. 3) Use the area formula i.e (absinC)/2 -> This is just my way of doing it and there can be multiple ways to approach it. Btw, Kudos to them who solved it without using Trigonometry!
@chessdev5320
3 жыл бұрын
or simply after the 1st step, u can calculate angle B i.e (180°-3x) sinB=sin(180-3x)=sin3x Use triple angle formula as you already know sinx ;D And then just use the area formula:- =(18×30×sin3x)/2
@PreMath
3 жыл бұрын
Dear Kumar, in my next vid, I'll do this problem using trigonometry. No worries. I love trig as well. Thanks dear for the feedback. You are awesome 👍 Take care dear and stay blessed😃
@chessdev5320
3 жыл бұрын
@@PreMath well actually, your method is much better than me as mine method is just a list of formulas while your method is a good use of geometry 😁.
@johnfoggjr2458
3 жыл бұрын
It’s obviously a 345 triangle. CX is 30 A 2x is 60, B must be 90. It’s a simple triangle base times height is 540. Half of that is your area = 270.
@kennethweigand4600
3 жыл бұрын
Loved this one! Thank you!!
@Shinobi_OF_Tsushima
2 жыл бұрын
I used the double angle formula and the fact that h=18sin(2x) and that sin(x) = h/30. Obviously cos(x) =sqrt(1 - (h^2)/900) and from there it is just rearranging to find h and then pythagoras' theorem to find the base. A nice quick and easy area problem - perfect for an A-level maths lesson starter
@ddmm7893
3 жыл бұрын
The problem actually has 2 solutions and you only consider one. Demonstration 1) sin (x) / 18 = sin (2x) / 30 => cos (x) = 5/6 2) AB² = AC² + BC²-2.AC.BC.cos (x) 18² = AC² + 30²-60.AC.5 / 6 AC²-50.AC-576 = 0 Delta = 625-576 = 49: 1st case: AC = 25 + 7 = 32 It is the solution that you consider and that gives Area = 80V11 and 2nd case: AC = 25-7 = 18 You do not consider this solution which gives according to the formula of Heron Area = 45V11
@michaelcrosby7715
2 жыл бұрын
3:41 There is no AAA Congruence theorem. The 2 triangles are congruent here, but you would need to use ASA or AAS congruence.
@user-ly5bc4xd2s
2 жыл бұрын
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@luigipirandello5919
Жыл бұрын
Everyday I Watch your vídeos. Geômetry is a fun for me. A diversion like Cross words. My profession is ophthalmologist, but I love geometry as well. It is a hobby. Greetings from Brazil, South American , City capital mamed Brasília. Very nice brazilian people and beautiful country. Brazil is not only Amazonian. We Have very nice cities On-The south of the country. Came and visit this beautiful people with open arms for all. You must visit Iguaçu Falls near frontiers with Argentina and Paraguay. The bigger of the World.
@PreMath
Жыл бұрын
Wow, Great! Glad to hear that! Brazil is a beautiful country with beautiful people. So kind of you, my dear friend. You are very generous. Cheers! You are the best Keep it up 👍 Love and prayers from the USA! 😀 Stay blessed 😀
@mathsandsciencechannel
3 жыл бұрын
Very great video sir. Making students gain confidence in math. Thank you sir
@UCE5YhzPOD
3 жыл бұрын
I found a soultion with less steps: Draw AD - angle bissection of angle A -> triangles ABD and CBA are similar with coefficient 18/30 Now we can find BD = 18/30 * AB => DC = BC - BD => DA = DC (angles DAC=DCA) => AC = 30/18 * DA = 32 Now using Heron's formula p = 40 S = sqrt(40*10*8*22)=80*sqrt(11)
@timeonly1401
2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!!
@prakashmadaksirashamrao5961
3 жыл бұрын
Another solution is to draw the angular bisector of the angle measuring 2x degrees and using angular bisector property and using similar triangles property and get BC =32.Though this method is a bit tortuous, it serves the purpose anyway.
@arpansit3155
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one sir keep it up
@d.m.7096
Жыл бұрын
Another solution. Let AE is bisector of angle A. Hence, angle AEB = 2x. Hence, ∆ BAC ~ ∆ BEA Therefore, BA/BE = BC/BA i. e. 18/BE = 30/18. Hence, BE = 54/5. By Pythagoras theorem to ∆ ABE, BE = 96/5 = CE. Also, BA/BC = AE/ AC i. e. 18/30 = (96/5)/CA Hence, CA = 32. Now apply Heron's formula or compute height from B on AC using Pythagoras theorem twice, get area of ∆ABC = 80√11.
@VIVEKANANDA65
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice questions framed and give room to thought processes, wherein the math lovers try to solve in different methods. I did this using trigonometry and used 5 steps ... but for those learners, who haven't got into trigonometry can solve as explained in the video solution ... But this tribe grow to sustain the live for Maths
@ramaprasadghosh717
3 жыл бұрын
denoting AB by c and AC by b one gets a = BC = c+ 2d ( say) So height AD *AD = c*c - d*d = b*b - (c+d)^2 simplifying d= b*b/(2c) - c so AD *AD = c*c - d*d =(2c - b*b/(2c))(b*b)/(2c)) so desired area =(b*b+ 2c*c)/(2c))AD/2 For c = 18 b = 30, b*b/(2c)= 25 Hereby AD = 5√(11) and a = 7+7 +18 Therefore deaired area = 80√(11) Another method b/ sin(2x) = c/ sin(x) or b/(2c) = cos(x) and so forth
@kalaiselvi7374
2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation Thank you.proof by using only common rules and theorems 👏👏
@acrade03
3 жыл бұрын
Put AC on the x-axis with A at (0,0) C at (u,0); then vectorAB=AC+CB we obtain 18sin2x=30sinx. Therefore, cosx=5/6; sin2x=5sqrt(11)/18; cos2x=7/18 and u=32; total area=determinat of〔AC AB〕 /2=80sqrt(11)
@PreMath
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Yao You are awesome 👍 Take care dear and stay blessed😃 Kind regards
@user-rt6si6pf5b
2 жыл бұрын
I did same solution!
@khyatikumar3867
2 жыл бұрын
Awsm solution Thank you sir❤️
@colinratcliffe3074
2 жыл бұрын
me too!
@freemathacademy6632
Жыл бұрын
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@hnahler
2 жыл бұрын
Different approach and much faster: drop a vertical of length h from B to the base b to get two triangles. Use the sine expressions for x and 2x based on h and the given length (18 and 30) and take sin(2x)=2sin(x)cos(x). It follows that cos(x) = 5/6. Then divide b into the parts left and right of the vertical. Using cos(x) and Pythagoras they are 25 and 7, so b=32. Further using Pythagoras, h = 5*sqrt(11). A=0.5*b*h=80*sqrt(11).
@hakkisuperheld
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I've done the same approach.
@okeuwechue9238
Жыл бұрын
I suspect PreMath prefers always solving problems the LONG way because it may help to increase youtube monetization and ad dollars...
@sie_khoentjoeng4886
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Since the length of side is 18, 30 and 32, we also can calculate the area using: A = √s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c) which s=(a+b+c)/2 In this case, s=(18+30+32)/2=80/2=40 Then: A=√(40.(40-18).(40-30).(40-32)) A=√(40.22.10.8) = √70400 = 265.33
@logos2114
2 жыл бұрын
hey we said it "u" teorem in turkey what you said it ? ( u(u-x)(u-y)(u-z) )^1/2
@sie_khoentjoeng4886
2 жыл бұрын
@@logos2114 We know it is Heron theorems of my mind serves better 😃😃. Maybe 's' is anbreviate of semilength (half of sum of length) instead of 'u'
@gurmukhsingh2358
2 жыл бұрын
It is called heron's formula here in india or simply hero's formula in local language
@logos2114
2 жыл бұрын
@@sie_khoentjoeng4886 😶 all people say it heron therom just l think it name is u teorem :// 😳
@versexx413
2 жыл бұрын
By Heron's formulae
@DxRzYT
2 жыл бұрын
After finding the length of AC - which is 32 - you can use the cosine rule and rearrange to find the angle 2x 2x=Cos-¹(18²+32²-30²/2(18)(32)) which gives you 67.1... (1dp) then use ½abSinC to find the area ½×18×32×Sin(67.1...) = 265.32...
@manishgandhi8934
3 жыл бұрын
Great video sir 👍I appreciate that.
@tablamurugesan
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice explaination sir. Thanks.
@easy_s3351
3 жыл бұрын
Alternatively you can draw a line from point A to BC so that it divides angle A into two equal angles of x degrees. Call the intersection with BC point D. In triangle ABC angle B is 180-3x degrees. In triangle ABD angle D then is 180-(180-3x)-x=2x degrees. As you can see triangle ABD and triangle ABC are similar triangles (two same angles and one same side). Using the law of sines in triangle ABC we can state that 18/sin x=30/sin 2x and so 18 sin 2x=30 sin x and sin x=18/30 sin 2x. Using that same law in triangle ABD we can state that 18/sin 2x=BD/sin x and so 18 sin x=BD sin 2x. Substituting for sin x gives 18(18/30 sin 2x)=BD sin 2x and so BD=324/30=10.8. That means CD=30-10.8=19.2. If you now consider triangle ACD you have angle A and angle C which are both x degrees and so triangle ACD is an isosceles triangle. That means AD=CD=19.2. Since triangles ABD and ABC are similar triangles we can now state that AB/BC=AD/AC so 18/30=19.2/AC which gives AC=32. Using Heron's Formula we can then calculate the area is √(s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)) with s being half the perimeter. So s=1/2*(18+30+32)=40 and we get area=√(40(40-30)(40-32)(40-18)=√70400=80√11.
@devaroraa
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting question 🔥
@johnbrennan3372
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent method. I did it using trigonometry. Area of triangleABC=1/2 by 18 by |ac| by sin 2x =1/2 by 30 by |ac| by sin x.This gives cos x =5 /6and sin x= (sq root11)\6. Area of the triangle ABC= 1/2 by 18 by30 by sin ( 180- 3x) = 1/2 by 18by30 by( 3sin x-4 sin cubed x).But sin x= (sq. root 11)/6 So area of triangle = 270 by (16 by sq root 11)/54 = 80 by sq root of 11.
@sreedharaks3117
3 жыл бұрын
ಜೈ ಶ್ರೀ ರಾಮ್ 🙏 THAN Q "PRE Math "for presenting suuuuuper video of PUZZLE solution . very interesting.MAY GOD BLESS U ❤️!!!!
@eleganttutorial5836
2 жыл бұрын
Nice Explanation sir
@hung9837
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Teacher
@ishnoorsingh1877
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect 🙌🙌
@India-jq7pi
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@3nelad
3 жыл бұрын
18/sinx = 30/sin2x, we get cosx=5/6.
@ankaiahgummadidala1371
2 жыл бұрын
I also did the same method.
@krabkrabkrab
2 жыл бұрын
@@ankaiahgummadidala1371 me too. I did it entirely mentally. It directly gives cosx=5/6, so EC=25. Then cos2x=2cos^2x-1=7/18, so AE=7 and the base, AC=32. h^2=30^2-EC^2=275. Half base times height is 16*sqrt(275). This method is way quicker.
@lazzatbastar3497
2 жыл бұрын
But not full answer. I mean cosx=5/6 does not give us AC length yet. Only knowing length of 2 sides and sin or cos of angle between two sides can let us calculate area of triangle. In exact S= 1/2* 18 * AC *sin x So we get cos x= 5/6 from sine theorem for triangle : sinx/18 = sin 2x/30. In exact sin x/sin 2x = 18/30, sin x /(2*sinx*cosx)= 18/30, 2*cos x=30/18, from where cos x= 5/6. Then we can calculate sin x from (1-(cos x)^2)^(1/2. So sin x=(11/36)^(1/2) Then using this information calculate AC which is sin(180- 3x)/AC = sin x/18 from sine theorem sinx/18=sin 2x/30 = sin (180-3x)= AC, where sin x = (11/36)^(1/2) Where sin(180-3x)= sin 3x which equals sin x*cos 2x+sin 2x*cos x. Where sin 2x= 2*(cos x)^2-1 = 1-2*(sinx)^2. We know already values for cos x, sin x At the end replace value for sin 3x and sin x in sin 3x/AC = sin x/18 and get AC=32. So area of triangle is S=1/2* 18*32 *sin x. Where sin x is (11/36)^(1/2) to get S= 1/2*18*32*(11/36)^(1/2)= 48*(11)^1/2
@user-wm1vk1cv2t
3 жыл бұрын
Here is another way 1.extend CA to CD such that AD=AB=18 2.triangle ABD is similar to triangle BCD 3.AB:BD=BC:CD , then CD=50 AC=32 4.AB=18,BC=30,AC=32 ,use Heron’s formula get the answer , 80sqrt(11)
@Andy-ly1ww
3 жыл бұрын
Nice solution:D
@dhrubajyotisarma6268
3 жыл бұрын
Geometry is very interesting as well as some hard ,nice video sir
@rabindranathrautaray7615
3 жыл бұрын
It is a very beautiful solution
@luismiguelguevarahinojosa6662
2 жыл бұрын
Draw a line from C to the extension of the side BA so the angle between AC and this new line is X, because angle A is 2X, the other angle mising from this new triangle has to be X too, the side opposite to the first x is equal in length to AC because is an isosceles triangle, apply similarity and 32 as the length of AC. Then use heron's formula for the area.
@mcorruptofficial6579
2 жыл бұрын
Hi dear, the problem can be solved by using bisection of BAC angle and so on Thanks for this example 👍
@adem-checkmate
Жыл бұрын
Just awesome
@theoyanto
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, I got the correct strategy, just needed guidance clipping it all together, great detailed explanation as always. Thanks again 👍🏻
@yeetboi4877
Жыл бұрын
The strat in the vid sucked i solved with system of sines.
@7mtm786
2 жыл бұрын
Very good solution After first line to make them isotriangle rest one straight forward process
@JSSTyger
3 жыл бұрын
My final answer is 80(sqrt(11)). I think the trick is remembering the double angle formula for sine. The other side length is 32.
@janiewiemkto2368
2 жыл бұрын
You can also calculate it from: P=1/2a*b*sin(
@MasterMathematicsSM
3 жыл бұрын
Good . Explanation.. you are crossed 100 k.. congrats dear brother🎉🎉
@crazyrapidshorts8112
2 жыл бұрын
You may also use heron's formula √s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c) where s = half of parameter and a,b,c are sides of triangle
@qudretastanov2980
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much🙏🙏🙏🙏
@mrsir8968
Жыл бұрын
thank you
@mauriciobrito1160
2 жыл бұрын
A área do triângulo ABC é a metade do polígono formado pelos vértices A,B,C e "D". Uma vez achados os lados do polígono ABCD que são AB=18 e AC=32, basta concluir que a área do triângulo é A=(18*32)/2=288. E outro modo de achar o ângulo x é pela lei dos senos : (18/sen x) = (30/sen 2x), em uma única equação. Encontrando "x" se determina o ângulo ^B, e em seguida o lado AC. Dessa forma seria muito mais simples e limpo.
@vcvartak7111
3 жыл бұрын
May be using sine rule it would have been easier. 18/sin(x)=30/sin(2x) .we can get sin(180-3x) area =1/2 *18*30 *sin(180-3x)
@DanielNeedham2500
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the way I've just done it
@dhrubajyotidaityari9240
3 жыл бұрын
I used this.
@ddmm7893
3 жыл бұрын
Yes but so long !!!
@DanielNeedham2500
3 жыл бұрын
How do you use that to find the value of x using algebra
@dhrubajyotidaityari9240
3 жыл бұрын
@@DanielNeedham2500 algebra method is not easy.because X= arc cos 5/6.
@ravikrpranavam
2 жыл бұрын
Well explained
@holyshit922
2 жыл бұрын
Law of sines and double angle for sine - value of cosine of x Pythagorean identity - value of sine of x From sum of angles in triangle on the Euclidean plane is 180 so we need the value of sin(3x) sin(3x) can be calculated using double angle identity for both sine and cosine and then sin(3x) can be calculated using sin of sum
I used Law of Sines to calculate value of x, which is 33.557 degrees. Then, 30sin33.557 = 16.583 which is the altitude. The base is obtained by adding 18cos67.115 and 30cos33.557, which equals 32. Then 1/2basexheight = 265.328 units.
@fouadhammout651
2 жыл бұрын
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@parameshbussu9244
Жыл бұрын
Nice Sir
@TheEulerID
2 жыл бұрын
I noted that h = 30 * sin(x). Also, h = 18 * sin (2x). But sin(2x)=2 * sin(x) * cos (x) therefore h = 36 * sin(x) * cos(x) = 30 * sin(x). Cancel out the sin(x) and remove common factors and you get cos(x) = 5/6. Therefore the length of EC is 5 x 30 / 6 = 25. By Pythagoras's theorem, l = √(900-625) = √275. Now apply Pythagoras's theorem to the triangle AEB and you get AE^2 = 324 - 275 = 49 therefore the length of AE is 7. Thus the length of the base AC is 7+25 = 32. Multiply the base by half the height and we get the area = 32 * √275 / 2 which simplifies slightly to 80 * √11. Of course this requires the use of a trigonometric identity, but I think it's simpler.
@joseta9942
2 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with this argument? Assume x = 30. Then angle C = 30, angle A = 60 and therefore angle B is 90. So it is a right triangle with height 30 and base 18, so the area of the triangle must be equal to 270.
@sidimohamedbenelmalih7133
3 жыл бұрын
Really nice, this time the puzzle was more difficult what make it more "edcatif" i dont speak english very nice😅
@raymondruiz5839
2 жыл бұрын
Angle, angle, angle congruency for triangles? It should have been HL. AAA is used for triable similarity.
@arunprasad1022
Жыл бұрын
At 3:39 the theorem that you used to prove that the two triangles is not a valid congruence theorem because AAA theorem is valid for similar triangles and not for congruent triangles. The triangles can be said to be congruent by RHS, ASA or SAS congruence theorems.
@fedorhotabich
Жыл бұрын
Also such a way: (1) Bisect angle A. Let D is intersection point with BC such that BC=BD+DC . Then ADC is isosceles triangle AD=DC then (2) ABD ~ CBA --> AB/CB=BD/BA=AD/CA --> 18/30=BD/18=AD/AC where AD=BC-DB=30-BD --> BD=18^2/30 AD=30-18^2/30=(30^2-18^2)/30 and AC=AD*30/18=(30^2-18^2)/18=12*48/18=32 (3) Half perimeter p=(AB+BC+CA)=(18+32+30)/2=40 . Applying Heron relation S=Sqrt(40*(40-18)*(40-32)*(40-30))=Sqrt(4*10*2*11*8*10)=80*Sqrt(11) is ANSWER
@ufukkoyuncu3408
2 жыл бұрын
Trigonometrik çozümlede kolayca bulunur ama sizin yaptiğiniz sekilde sentetik cozüm her zaman en güzeli cünkü daha yaraticı
@zsus1
Жыл бұрын
good one...same time Sin formula can be used here and easier
@lusalalusala2966
2 жыл бұрын
Another way to solve this problem is to find h as follows. h=30sin(x)=18sin(2x)=36sin(x)cos(x). Because sin(x) cannot be 0, we have cos(x)=5/6, therefore sin(x)=sqrt(11)/6, and then h=30sin(x)=5sqrt(11). now use Pythagoras to find the two segments from A to the foot of h and from there to C.
@jesusantoniocarhuashuerta4662
3 жыл бұрын
Good solution
@bocaj.455
2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you have chosen this very long and complicated method. You can do it in two lines using sine rule to get angle X, then angle B = 180 - 3X , the use area = 1/2 (18) (30) sin B.
@_basu_6320
3 жыл бұрын
Why don't we opt for the sine rule... It's quite easier... Although if you are willing to go for a rigorous solution then you use the method shown in the video
@ankaiahgummadidala1371
2 жыл бұрын
Following sine rule is a better method than what is followed in this video. You will arrive at the solutio with less time and effort.
@MarieAnne.
2 жыл бұрын
How is the sine rule less rigorous?
@3outas_math823
Жыл бұрын
Very good
@hennobrandsma4755
2 жыл бұрын
30/sin(2x) = 18/sin(x) gives cos(x)=5/6 by using sin(2x) = 2sin(x)cos(x). Then the final side follows from rule of cosines: 18^2 = 30^2 + c^2 - 2*30*c*(5/6), so c^2 - 50c +576=0 from which c=32 follows. Then apply standard Heron formula for the area. No need for any drawings or helping triangles.
@johngreen3543
Жыл бұрын
I did this using trig exclusively. sin x/18 =sin2x/30 implies sinx/18=2sinxcosx/30 thus cos x = 5/6 and sinx = 11^(1/2)/6 then the area is A = .5(18)(30)sin(180-3x) = 270(sin (180-3x)) the expression sin (180-3x) can be shown to equal sinx(3-4(sinx)^2) = 11^(1/2)/6(3-4*11/36)= 11^(1/2)/6(3-44/36)=11^(1/2)/6(64/36)=11^(1/2)/6(16/9) so A =270*11^(1/2)(16/54)= 80*11^(1/2).
@NinjaJacky
2 жыл бұрын
Apply sine rule first we get angle A is equal to 180 minus 3x, then with the help of sine rule we find cosx =5/6, sinx = root 11 upon 6, after that area of triangle is equal to 1/2*18*30*sinA which is equivalent to 80 root 11.
@geometer6121
Жыл бұрын
By the Law of Sines: x ~ 33.55731. Angle B = 180 - 3x degrees. By Law of Cosines AC ~ 37.735925. By Heron's Formula area ~ 265.3333.
@c8h182
3 жыл бұрын
More geometry questions please.
@user-tt4ep6fr4d
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this solution But I used another way which is the sin law And I got cos x Considering the third angle(180-3x)we can get the area 1/2*18*30*sin(180-3x)=sin3x =sin (2x+x) Using the sum formula and double angle we get the same result I am glad you wrote your opinion
@cosmosz8125
3 жыл бұрын
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@cosmosz8125
3 жыл бұрын
momkin l9awha b sinx w cosx (we use sinx=h/30 , sin2x=h/18 and sin²x+cos²x=1.....)
@user-pt7wn8pm1j
2 жыл бұрын
Solving by sin(3x) is not a good idea in this case. reason 1, sin(x) = sqrt[1- (cosx)^2] = sqrt(11)/6, a "sqrt" in included. reason 2, sin(3x) = 3*(sinx)-4*[(sinx)^3]. sin3x need to deal with "sqrt" and "(sqrt)^3". This solution need complex calculation.
@aribupto9090
Жыл бұрын
people in the comment section telling easier ways, this method in the video is made for math competitions where we are not allowed to use calculators.
@luigipirandello5919
3 жыл бұрын
Nice question and very nice solution. Thank you, professor. Have a nice day.
@herblevinson7133
2 жыл бұрын
Actually the area of this 18 by 30 right triangle is 18 times 30 divided by 2.
@nazimusik
2 жыл бұрын
I believe law of sines can be used to avoid so much working, and making so many triangles and all this bunch of separate solutions
@mshanmukhavalli4567
3 жыл бұрын
Nice sum
@unn0wn224
Жыл бұрын
one correction at 3:45 proving triangles congruent by AAA axiom is not true and only applies in some special cases because it is for similar triangle not congruent , and congreunt triangle are similar triangle but similar triangle are not necessarily congruent. there should be at least one side equal for a triangle to be congruent
@michaelsteinkugel495
2 жыл бұрын
This problem can be solved much more easily with the Euclid catheter set. the squares over the cathetus result in the square over the hypothenuse. If you divide the square above the hypotenuse with one of the smaller squares of the cathete, you get the second length that you need to calculate the height using the Pythagorean theorem. the rest is then simple, base x height divided by 2.
@okeuwechue9238
Жыл бұрын
I suspect that PreMath is always solving these problems the *long* way because of the youtube algo (- longer videos and more "user time" spent watching the vids may increase monetization and advertising dollars...)
@maneeshaliyanapatabendy1481
2 жыл бұрын
this can be done with those theorems as well as using trig. but which method is quicker, which method is widely accepted?
@pradyumnakumarnayak9384
2 жыл бұрын
Namaste sirji.
@mkryan2397
2 жыл бұрын
From ratio theory of the triangle ABC, we can write, (Sinx/18) = (sin2x/30) Or, 2sinx.cosx = 30.sinx/18 [as, sin2A=2sinA.cosA] Or, cosx = 30/36 = 5/6 ......(i) Again, cosx = b/30 [b= length bet'n perpendicular foot point & triangle's point "C"] So, b/30 = 5/6 Or, b = 25 And if height be "h" then, h^2 = 30^2 -b^2 = (30+25)(30-25) [b=25] = 55×5 = 11×5×5 So, h = 5.rt11 So, a = rt {18^2-(5.rt11)^2} = rt(324-275) = rt.49 Or, a = 7 [here, a = AC-b] So, AC = 7+25 = 32 Therefore, Area = 0.5×h× AC = 0.5×5.rt11×32 = 80.rt11 = 265.33 sqr unit [Ans.]
@plamenpenchev262
Жыл бұрын
Draw a bisectrix if angle 2x. You obtain two similar triangles. You can then find the third side equal to 32. Then Heron formula.
@williamwingo4740
2 жыл бұрын
I did it trigonometrically: Drop BE perpendicular from B to AC at E; then BE = your "h" = 30 sin x = 18 sin 2x; so 30 sin x = 18 sin (2x). By the double-angle formula, sin 2x = 2 sin x cos x; so 30 sin x = 18 (2 sin x cos x) = 36 sin x cos x; thus 30 sin x = 36 sin x cos x. Divide both sides by 36 sin x and we have cos x = (30 sin x) / (36 sin x) = 30/36 = 5/6. Now the right-hand line segment EC = 30 cos x; so 30 cos x = 30 (5/6) = 150/6 = 25. By Pythagoras, h^2 = 30^2 - 25^2 = 900 - 625 = 275; so h = sqrt(275) = sqrt[(25)(11)] = 5 sqrt(11). Now for AE which you call "a": invoking Pythagoras again, a^2 = 18^2 - h^2 = 324 - 275 = 49; so a = sqrt(49) = 7. So the base of the triangle is 25 + 7 = 32, and the height (altitude) is 5 sqrt(11), just as your solution indicates; and finally, area = (1/2)(32)(5 sqrt(11) = (16)(5)(sqrt(11) = 80 sqrt(11). Since this is the exact solution, I'll skip the decimal approximation. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen; I'll be here all week.
@konstantinjoukovski7062
Жыл бұрын
Good solution, but solution with trigonometry is shorter. I first used law of sines: 18:sinx=30:sin2x. Then replaced sin2x with 2sinx cosx, thus we can find cosx=5/6 and sinx=√11/6 . The square of the triangle is equal to 0.5*18*30*sin(180-3x)=270*sin3x anb then use formula for sin3x.
@YTN137
2 жыл бұрын
For my think , grade 7 & 8 ( Alberta , CAN ) not yet learn about sine , cos ....But follow all your steps ( apply grade 6, 7, 8 Math ) they can understand to solve this problem easier . Thank you .
@robertlynch7520
3 жыл бұрын
Trigonometry also provides a relatively straight forward solution. № 1.1: 𝒉 = 𝒂 sin 2𝒙 … where (𝒂 = 18;) № 1.2: 𝒉 = 𝒃 sin 𝒙 … where (𝒃 = 30;) Expanding, rearranging № 2.1: 18 sin 2𝒙 = 30 sin 𝒙 … rearranging № 2.2: 18 ÷ 30 = (sin 𝒙) / (sin 2𝒙) Remembering that (sin 2θ = 2⋅cos θ⋅sin θ), then № 2.3: 18 ÷ 30 = ( sin 𝒙 ) / ( 2 cos 𝒙 ⋅ sin 𝒙 ) … cancelling № 2.4: 18 ÷ 30 = 1 / ( 2 cos 𝒙 ) … inverting № 2.5: 30 ÷ 18 = 2 cos 𝒙 … inverting, and moving the '2' around № 2.6: 30 ÷ 36 = cos 𝒙 … and solving № 2.7: arccos( 30 ÷ 36 ) = 𝒙 … numerically № 2.8: 𝒙 = 33.56° Well! Now we're armed with a nice big shotgun shell: № 1.3: 𝒉 = 30 sin (𝒙 → 33.56°) № 1.4: 𝒉 = 16.584; Just got to figure the length of the base line to determine △ area: № 3.1: 𝒄 = 𝒂 cos 2𝒙 № 3.2: 𝒅 = 𝒃 cos 𝒙 № 3.3: 𝒄 = 7.0 № 3.4: 𝒅 = 25.0 № 4.1: base = 𝒄 + 𝒅 № 4.2: base = 7 + 25 № 4.3: base = 32 Since we have the height (𝒉 → 16.584) № 5.1: area △ABC = ½(base ⋅ height) 𝒖² № 5.2: area △ABC = ½(32 ⋅ 16.584) 𝒖² № 5.3: area △ABC = 265.33 𝒖² And that is that! ⋅-⋅-⋅ Just saying, ⋅-⋅-⋅ ⋅-=≡ GoatGuy ✓ ≡=-⋅
@rafaelmayoral5571
2 жыл бұрын
Cos-1 x = 30/36 x = 33º 33` h=16.58, a =7 b = 25 A = 265.28
@J2RAM1
Жыл бұрын
Dá para resolver por Trigonometria! Temos que sen2x = h/18 => senx = h/30 ----> (1) Onde a identidade: sen2x = sen(x + x) = senx.cosx + senx.cosx = 2senx.cosx ----> (2) Substituindo (1) em (2): 2(h/30).cosx = (h/15)cosx ----> (3) Sabemos que sen2x = h/18 onde substituindo na identidade sen2x = 2senx.cosx ,obtemos o valor de cosx = ? Logo: h/18 = 2(h/30).cosx => cosx = 5/6 ----> (4) Da relação fundamental da Trigonometria, podemos determinar o valor da altura "h". (sen²x + cos²x = 1) => sen²x + (5/6)² = 1 => sen²x = 11/36 ---> Comparando com (1),temos o "h" determinado! Da seguinte forma: h/30 = Raiz quadrada de 11 dividida por 6, o que nos dá: h = 5 . que multiplica a Raiz quadrada de 11. ////////////////////////////////// Temos que, a área do triângulo ABC é igual a: (18 + 2u)h/2 = ? ; Onde u = Raiz quadrada de (18 + h).(18 - h) --> (5) Desenvolvendo, temos: Área do triangulo ABC = (18 + 2u)5.(Raiz quadrada de 11)/2 O que nos dá: 5. (Raiz quadrada de 11).(9 + u) ---> (6) Onde substituindo u por (5) em (6), teremos a área do triângulo = 80 que multiplica a raiz quadrada de 11.
@user-pt7wn8pm1j
2 жыл бұрын
1. from ABC: 18/sin (x) = 30/ sin(2x) => cos(x) = 5/6 2. set AC =U, from angel C : cos(x) = (30^2+U^2-18^2) / (2*30*U) = 5/6,U=32 (18 is impossible) 3. since AB,BC,CA are int, set s= (AB+BC+CA)/2, then area = sqrt [s*(s-a)*(s-b)*(s-c)] = 80*sqrt(11)
@user-pt7wn8pm1j
2 жыл бұрын
if AC=U is not int, sinx = sqrt[1-(cosx)^2]= sqrt(11)/6, area = (BC * AC * sinx)/2
@calvinwong2000
Жыл бұрын
As I forgot Sine rule and cosine rule, I use similar triangle to get BC length 32 and then use Heron’s formula s=(a+b+c)/2=40 and then Area = sqrt(s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)) = sqrt(40*22*10*8)=80sqrt(11)
@phuhuynhtoanphothong468
Жыл бұрын
Verrygood
@raspberrieswithcream
Жыл бұрын
Much easier to begin with 18sin2x = 30sinx That gives x That gives the height and the base of the triangle That gives the area = ~265.2
@andrewng622
2 жыл бұрын
3:43 the angle-angle-angle theorem indicates similar triangles only, not congruent triangles.
@MarieAnne.
2 жыл бұрын
You're right. He seems to have skipped a step. Angle-angle-angle indicates similar triangles. But since we have similar triangles that share a corresponding side, they are congruent.
@DhirajSingh-mn6zu
3 жыл бұрын
What is the guarantee that BD of length 18 will meet AC at D
@user-wq3dk9wr6f
2 жыл бұрын
we can use laws of sines 30/sin2x =18/sinx then we know that sin2x=2cosxsinx and we can have cosx and use laws of cosines to find the side length is 32 .Then use 1/2×30×32×sinx (we can use cosx to have sinx) the answer is the area
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