Amazing input. That will be loads of useful in the future. Thank you so much for posting this.
@JeffHorne
3 жыл бұрын
This….
@mikelockwood2104
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome advice dude !! thank you
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for both tips! With the l-eXtreme on, I couldn't do the 1s exposures - but your second tip will be used in a video about framing :)
@jPaulofe
3 жыл бұрын
We are always learning! Many thanks for the framing tip, Costin!! 👏
@dlg521
3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you use your histogram sliders to preview the stretch as you're shooting. Really makes an impact on what your potential final image will be. I'm waiting for my PLUS to show up but have using the AAPro for a year. Love it
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@chrisvig123
2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it pretty much the same as the pro model except better antenna?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
As you can tell, I am quite impressed by the first light with the device. It is quite amazing! I intend to keep it on the setup for the future, as it will help me just grab the whole setup to dark sites when the weather clears and the moon hides. Also note that the computer that I had on my setup has made its way to my bigger setup with R200SS. So I am still using NINA! It is good to add the following caveats for reference: - Many users (and the manual!) recommend powering the mount separately, as the power delivery could be overwhelmed, especially with dew heaters (I am not having issues with my setup, but it is modest in terms of power consumption). However I've been told it could also affect guiding. So I may choose to power the mount separately, as recommended. - It only works with ZWO EAF for focusing and EFW for filters, and some Nikon and Canon cameras as well as ZWO cameras (e.g. no QHY, Altair, or other brands, you are locked in). It has a much wider compatibility for mounts. - Framing and mosaic setup is a bit painful (upcoming video for framing and mosaic), and I would like to have parameters for plate-solving and centering precision - I really didn't like having to activate the device online. It's something that just annoys me. - Polar Alignment requires view of Polaris (unlike NINA's three point polar alignment) - or at least a view of the sky within 30 degrees of Polaris - Meridian limits can't be set (at least at this stage), so it pauses imaging at Meridian - workaround it to set Meridian flip less long after Meridian - Focus seems to be single star rather than multi-star (but it worked very well in my first light, and others tell me it is actually multi-star) - No PHD2 guiding assistant or setup wizard to help set a correct value for the calibration step (it seems to me we should have a good pre-populated number based on connected equipment) E.g. great for ease of use, but there is loss of flexibility.
@MegaFrenzyman
3 жыл бұрын
Have you tried planning with Telescopius csv? I use it to do 9 frames HSO and 6 frames RGB of Cynus without problem
@luboinchina3013
3 жыл бұрын
I also was very impressed with the functionality. I have the same functions in my AsiAir V1, but If I can add to the complaints 1. I want to have an option to cancel the update when available. I lost half of the night at remote location because it wanted to update and failed to do so. 2. Platesolving doesn't work for planets and the moon. 3. Platesolving doesn't work for focal length over 5000mm - bad if you want to image Jupiter or Saturn and you use barlow 4. I had problem to do platesolving using 700mm guide scope and ASI290mm for unknown reason. 5. I wish it could be more planetary imaging friendly, using live view 5x of DSLR for capturing video 6. For some reason it has troubles with mirror lock up setup so it cannot do platesolving using DSLR when mirror lockup is set on and also cannot do image of the moon with the mirror lockup function. So my moon photos are shaky due to it.
@jlecomte0719
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, this is perfect for a portable setup, but not necessarily optimal at home, or in any kind of permanent or semi-permanent setup.
@michaelasbury5473
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my ASIAIR Pro. I have not tried a mosaic yet, so I’m looking forward to your future video on that. Also, not sure if you’re aware but for framing a target you can press on the screen where you want it centered and a green circle with the word “go” will appear there and it asks if you want to re-center your FOV there. If you have to image a target over several nights you can go to Preview mode, click on image management, then search for one of your previous images under Autorun. Once you find an image, there should be a “goto” button on the screen. It will plate solve and go back to that FOV. I find it VERY useful.
@physmc1
3 жыл бұрын
I think focus is multi-star according to posts on the zwo asi forum, but it only shows 1 star as preview.
@rudibarani
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your impressions. There are settings for dithering, too, in case you want to use that in the future, I was wondering why you use 0.9x guiding speed. Maybe you could explain in a future video what this does e.g. in comparison to 0.5x guiding speed and if it depends on the position of the target in the sky, ones mount etc. Enjoy your new toy!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Very good point - unless the mount driver restricts it, the guide pulse can be as short as necessary. The faster the guide speed, the shorter the pulses, but potentially the more approximate they become (but that would only be an issue with very long FL). At the same time, it can catch faster excursions from center, so less limited. I always set it to 0.9x or 1x because of that
@astrodad656
3 жыл бұрын
I think he has the dark L-extreme filter in and the one second doesn't work. I have this problem and I will put in a clear filter to do my polar alignment and even my plate solve and then throw my different filters in once completed.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Still 5 seconds is not that painful either...
@Durkan34
3 жыл бұрын
Does it live stack ? I’d be interested to see you repeat this vid with StellarMate/kstars and a mini pc/Nina.
@GrowingAnswers
3 жыл бұрын
It does. I personally don’t use that feature on mine though.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yes - I'm planning on testing that and doing a video about it
@markbmc9712
3 жыл бұрын
Yea! Lock me man😎 I’m so glad you got to try one👍 After Maxim DL, tied for years to a laptop, this is my forever device. All ZWO cameras from now on, so I can use this amazing device. I’ve got version1 & Pro.V1 Great video👍👍👍👍👍👍
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yep! But still... I wish we could hack it a bit to support other cameras...
@galengloetzel1441
4 ай бұрын
I also like the ZWO ASIAIR PLUS! Once one learns how to use it, it is amazing!
@BlackravenarmouryUk
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Cuiv, hope you reply to comments unlike so many you tubers after 11 months and another superb video, but I’d really love to see you do one on the whole EAF setup working out the backlash. Seen a few out there but for someone on Mac and no access to Nina, it’s a bit confusing. Unless you can recommend a video out there ??
@orchidsseasonallyblooming.9909
2 жыл бұрын
Question: Will ASIair do Live Stacking while Tracking (without guiding)? Note: I have the latest version of ASIair installed on my ASIair Pro. Thank you.
@michaeledmonds3027
2 жыл бұрын
Great! I subscibed, liked and now commenting......Just ordered a ZWO 183 camera for my Celestron Evolution 6, and I'm curious about the Asiair unit. I won't have a guide scope or electronic focuser, and I'm not sure about mount control or power management (the mount has a built-in LIFE battery). Maybe tap into the mount's battery output and not use the scope hand control unit? Thoughts, Thanks, Michael 🪐
@pm1035
Жыл бұрын
Cuiv, You put the bug in me to get the ASIAir Plus get it working...I hope? Can you point me to any EAA books for beginners to get me started? And of course, I will support you and your fantastic KZitem tutorials. Thanks!
@skalasz01
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cuiv, Does your AZ-EQ5 have new tripod and saddle? If yes, what company are? Super video like always. Thanks, Piotr
@mcsascsu
Жыл бұрын
Hi Cuiv, I am planing to by an AsiAir Mini or the Plus. Do you know maybe, would does it work with my Celestron Nextstar 4SE?
@ricklaird2218
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am trying to decide between AsiAir Plus and Stellarmate. This video is helpful.
@OptiquevideoFPV
2 жыл бұрын
POS "piece of sh.." hahaaha I'm thinking of buying one now 😅 looks like it's what I need on the road
@tedg3250
Жыл бұрын
Hey Geek, I get alot of light pollution in my yard, do u think it will affect greatly the asiair?? Thanks again..
@jesuspineiro1622
3 жыл бұрын
I think ASIAIR PLUS is a great device, but I am also disappointed that it only works with ZWO devices. ZWO loses a lot of potential customers, including me, even though I am a ZWO and Canon user. I still prefer a mini PC with NINA, which is more versatile. Great video
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I completely get it - I feel it's such a waste to have a polished system like that...but to keep it closed...
@Wheeljack678
3 жыл бұрын
That was a great review. I think seeing your impressions and thoughts in "real time" gave a lot more to the review than if you'd made a separate video about it. This goes for both the good and the bad about the device.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Exactly - I wanted my raw impressions to be on camera.
@WRX2001
Жыл бұрын
ASIAR PLus is awesome it's better than Stellarmate...
@darrenbrown1039
Жыл бұрын
Can I ask where you got the power lead from with the lockable collar to stop the lead from being pulled out of the mount please?
@balacv02
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome friend. What is the difference between Pro and Plus? Thanks a ton for this review
@davidaucoin4990
Жыл бұрын
what mount, camera, guide camera did you use with the ASIAir?
@charlesmartin5565
3 жыл бұрын
Man I acted the same way the first night I had the asiair out. It blew me away with how easy it was and how well it was made.
@luboinchina3013
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yep... Now if only it could be hacked to support other cameras.. :D
@charlesmartin5565
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek primalucelab eagle now has a stand alone astro gear management application that runs in pretty much the same way as the asiair is and it's called play. The big difference is it allows u to run other camaras other then just one brand and I also auto focuser as well. Primaluce labs just put out a KZitem video showcasing it.
@Saxonpod
5 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek exactly what I was thinking
@philleng480
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cuiv, good video. For a user who already has a functioning rig it doesn't seem to make sense to pay out another £300 to get reduced functionality (on a tiny screen). Not leaving laptop outside, yes a small benefit if security is an issue. So a travel rig is where you will see the benefit with no laptop (you still need the same power supply to run the show). If I was travelling by plane then yes its going to be slightly easier, £300 easier.... I don't know. For a newbie then yes it simplifies things a little having one program. Let's see how zwo support their product.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Completely understand! I like not having a laptop at all overall, and just being able to grab and go the kit. Up to now I had a computer mounted on top - and controlled from another computer inside.
@jbnitpou9942
2 жыл бұрын
God ….. this is the very best tool for a descent lazy guy. 👍😀
@jimgunn4498
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Glad to see that you were as impressed with it as I have been. I have been using it for about a month and I will never be able to use anything else. The days of carrying around a wad of cables and a 5 lb laptop are over. Not to mention, it is just easy. Boot up, focus, align, plate solve, point and shoot. Done and done. I actually learned a couple more things about it from your video that I hadn't come across yet, so thanks for that. It will do live stacking and it is awesome, even auto stretches the live stack. And, if you keep some of your most-used darks and bias frames on the device, take one flat frame when you start imaging, you can live stack with all of your calibration frames applied as well. I imaged Horsehead and Flame last night and it was awesome to see the image build up over a couple of hours. It takes me less time to complete setup and begin imaging with the ASI AIR on my telescope than it does just to try and find a target with my DSLR. It has kind of ruined DSLR imaging for me. I think from now on, the DSLR will be just for Milky Way photography. I was completely up and running in less than half an hour last night on the telescope and after over an hour of trying to locate the Heart Nebula on the DSLR with a 135mm lens, I gave up, slapped a 50mm lens on, and just pointed it in the general direction and hoped for the best.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that feedback Jim - it's such a different experience indeed. And I completely get and share your pain about finding targets with a DSLR, it's just too painful! Livestacking is on my todo list to feature as well.
@AstroArcher
3 жыл бұрын
I have the ASIAIR and I love it. Just makes everything super easy. Love the Live mode too. Just seeing the image stack live and if you mess with the histogram sliders you can really get an idea of the data you are getting. Amazing bit of kit.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! The live stack is super cool! I have an upcoming video on that!
@kaylumsnelling
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently got the ASIair plus and I’m having some trouble with it. I’ve activated it and I’ve put all my telescope fl and chosen my cameras, but when I go onto the next part of the app there is no live view it’s just an image saying as easy as 1, 2, 3. Also my guide camera (ASI120mm mini) keeps disconnecting from the app. I don’t know if you can help but it’s worth a try.
@kucrapoc51
2 жыл бұрын
j'avais remarqué un accent français, j'avais un doute, mais le "je suis bluffé" m'a terminé XD je pense faire l'acquisition d'un tel boitier, ça à l'air vraiment puissant !
@TevisC
2 жыл бұрын
How about a comparison of astroberry, stellar mate and the asiair?
@GrowingAnswers
3 жыл бұрын
I have the pro version and it completely changed the hobby. It simply automates everything. I saw you used 8s for autofocus time. I use 1 sec autofocus for lrgb and 3 sec for 3nm narrowband. Never have anything out of focus after it finishes. It doesn’t care how noisy the image is when it does the focus routine. It goes quicker that way. Which is especially important with filter wheel set-ups.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I've switched to 5s since - it works beautifully, it's really quite impressive... Thanks for that feedback!
@keithlawrence9310
Жыл бұрын
Hi, which Tablet do you use, as in this video please?
@jinkim917
5 ай бұрын
"wowww. Wowwww .. like seriously?????"
@zborkz
3 жыл бұрын
It's a great solution for a very portable setup, the biggest disadvantage I have found is no framing assistance as found in nina, as well as no native mosaic built in abilities. Then again I got it for a highly portable solution and for that it's very well suited.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, completely agree - I will be releasing a video in a week or so about the various framing and mosaic solutions available for the ASIAir
@Interstellardustband
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cuiv, great Video ✌🏻 also got an AAP and a zwo 533mc. Still waiting for the first light. Only clouds 😔 Question, is it possible to cool the 533 from one of the ports. Zwo recommends to power the Cam seperate. Kind regards, Danny
@CuivTheLazyGeek
2 жыл бұрын
AAP can definitely power the camera... What's the point of those ports if they can't do that??
@mistafrags6113
2 жыл бұрын
It has an atlas for framing now i heard sooo cool cant wait for mine to come in
@pamelawhitfield4570
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting product for sure but as I use QHY cameras for DSO imaging it won't be bothering my bank balance. My setup is functionally equivalent in terms of setup time if bulkier (12V mini-pc and Pegasus UPB v1 mounted on the OTA). I struggle with touchscreens as my fingertips have very little sensation (I miss my old-school phone sometimes!) so I'll stick with a laptop. The remote desktop app on my iPad is there if I really feel the need though a less polished experience. I'll be interested to see if you have any connectivity issues with the AZEQ5. I had random, unexplained and extremely irritating disconnects with my UPB v1 (sometimes in the middle of the night) until I plugged the mount direct to its own port on the mini-pc, down to mixing baud rates perhaps? Also most Skywatcher mounts are known to track better with a slightly higher voltage so I power mine separately with 13.7V, but with with your very wide field that might not matter much. Never-the-less hope all goes well and have fun with it!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I completely understand that. I just wished they opened the ASIAir up... They have high margins on it, so it would make business sense... I didn't know that about skywatcher mounts! I think they accept up to 16V, and my battery can do that, so maybe I should try that!
@jean-marclemoine9636
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Cuiv. Maybe you have to stop tracking +10mn after meridian and not 0mn if you want to continue shooting 10mn after meridian. But maybe you have other settings to do. I do not know the ASIAir… JM
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I checked with ZWO and they just pause the mount...
@TheMje1963
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying the new toy. However there are a lot of us that can not use it. It only works with ZWO products. My camera is zwo buy my focuser's (all of them) are Moonlite. I had an EAF once and it was such a pain to even get going right and was way too much backlash and slop that I gave it away to a friend. Now if they start letting you use 3rd party equipment with it (ASCOM) I'll think about it. For now i'll stick with my Eagle 3 and 4
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. That's the main issue with this device. If only they opened it to other cameras, focusers, and filter wheels... They wouldn't ever be able to support ASCOM (you need Windows for that), but they would be able to support all of that via INDI...
@patrickbisaillon307
Жыл бұрын
Et moi qui croyais que ton accent provenait de l’allemand :)
@MrPedalpaddle
3 жыл бұрын
This A bit too bad you didn’t finish the PA - it’s kind of fun when the cartoon face breaks into a smile and you get a message “crazy fast, like driving a race car” or “really slow, you must be walking”
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yeah! But I really wanted to get started before the clouds rolled in!
@stephanegrosjean4990
3 жыл бұрын
Does this ASIAir Plus can help polar align a sky adventurer... when you don’t have access to north?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
As far as I know.... no. You need view within 30 degrees of Polaris...
@astroberg4774
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the darkside of the force. By Christmas everyone will be using the asiair. That mean loads of laptops on ebay
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Well, everyone with all-ASI and ZWO setups at least!
@jasonlewis6021
3 жыл бұрын
What is your "Wow" count in this video? BTW I was exactly the same, I looked around my backyard for someone to share the excitement with, but like so may other hobbies I do I was alone, but so satisfied in the process!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Many have tried counting the Wows, all have failed at this quest for now :D
@KopLamp
3 жыл бұрын
Hahahhah.... you had me laughing out loud... "Go to Home, piece of... " :P
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Hehehe, glad you liked it!
@waynerichardson1706
3 жыл бұрын
Me too !
@andrewweller5119
3 жыл бұрын
Does the ASIAIR Plus provide enough amps to run the mount and everything else properly?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently no! It provides up to 3A per port, and 6A in total - so the recommendation is actually to power the mount separately. My guess is that it works quite well with a small mount like mine or the AZ-GTi for instance without needed separate power to the mount
@AncalimeNL
3 жыл бұрын
The amounts of 'WOOOOW' tell me this might be a good product
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yeah I went overboard there but I couldn't help it!
@hael8680
3 жыл бұрын
Too bad you have go change the box when improvements are made and not be able to simply download and install a software upgrade.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, ZWO has kept even their original ASIAir updated to the latest firmware - so much so that the available features are pretty much on par with this release, except power delivery. Lack of upgradability is an issue for sure, but then a mini PC or a laptop suffer from the same problem...
@ShamrockBanksObservatory
Жыл бұрын
I've been dealing with a new Eagle for this purpose. After watching this video, I will be sending it back and getting an ASIAir. Very well done, this is the exact solution I'm looking for on my secondary telescope.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
Жыл бұрын
In the end I reverted to a PC with NINA as I found it was simply easier and more powerful for me, and I ended up using non-ZWO cameras :-) the risk of going this way is to be locked into an ecosystem, until they open it up!
@ShamrockBanksObservatory
Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek really not an issue for me. I have to change focusers but all my cameras are ZWO. As is my filter wheel.
@JulesStoop
2 жыл бұрын
@10:53 ‘Point of sale’!
@richardhurst1969
3 жыл бұрын
Shame you cannot use it with other manufacturers cameras like the AltairAstro range
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly - and other manufacturer filter wheels and focusers... I dread the day that ZWO makes a mount and stops supporting other mounts!
@martinsastrophotography
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Can it plan the framing and then tell you how much to rotate the camera to match the planned framing? What about planning of mosaics?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
No at this stage it can't, it relies on Telescopius - I have an upcoming video on that!
@danm3844
2 жыл бұрын
lol "go home piece of sh..."
@whenpigsflyobservatory
Жыл бұрын
Hey Cuiv, interesting review. You’re right about getting locked into the ZWO ecosystem. Just got the ASIAIR Plus & ASI120MM guider for my setup. If I consider your pre-release review of the device through the filter of a years worth of improvements, then I’m thinking this will be a paradigm shift for my little observatory. Looking to free up the laptop from the kitchen table and the idea of just grabbing a micro SD to transfer data works great. Cheers Sir!
@-Jeremiah-
Жыл бұрын
Cuiv, I know you see comments on old vids sometimes and I hope you catch this one. Hehehe I just joked with you a night or two ago on a live stream about how I will need to join your patreon in order to get your help with getting my asi/auto guide set up as I’m just making the leap to auto guiding. Well…. You cut your own throat with these two videos brother. I’m shooting from the couch as I type this. Sincerely, thank you for all of the information and insight you share! You deserve the highest of fives my friend!
@hael8680
3 жыл бұрын
Can you manually frame or you get the framing zwo is giving you?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
You can tap and hold within the preview image to go-to there, but it's still limited. You can also frame in Telescopius and import to the ASIAir plan, but it's clunky. There are no centering thresholds that I can see. A proper framing wizard is near the top of my wishlist for the device...
@hael8680
3 жыл бұрын
The flipping delay is a HUGE waste of time.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
The workaround is to just set the flip to be 1 minute after meridian... And hope the mount has realized it crossed the Meridian...
@TheFlyingScotsmanTV
3 жыл бұрын
tips: for pro not plus, you can burn a card for each mount you use. that way, I save having to faff about changing guiding, etc settings between mounts. use safari eqmod. and then use safari for framing, mosaic setups, etc. once goto on safari, you can save as favourite that location 'ic1396 panel1' etc. and use those in a plan. issues it has: if it gets cloudy, and it does an autofocus, it will screw it up, and all your subs after that will be crap. also as it loses guiding during clouds, when clouds go away it will be off target possibly, and it should really re-platesolve and centre after guiding lost, but it doesnt (also lost me a ton of images). all fed back to zwo and hopefully solveable (i.e if can't autofocus, at least go back to what you had before, etc).
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Huh, so in a way that's a "regression" for the ASIAir Plus, that was a nice workaround you had!
@TheFlyingScotsmanTV
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek yeh it's not a biggy, but I don't think moving it to mmc did much tbh. I have 2 asiairs, and 4 mounts. I have a card for each, so I just pop it in. also mmc is slooow. getting a quick usb3 usb stick makes a decent difference in how quick stuff gets saved and loads up. the good thing is, zwo seem very approachable to updates (at least other than 'make it work for non zwo stuff!), so moan enough, and stuff gets updated. the cloud stuff IS sortable. As is your image till flip issue which I also wholeheartedly agree with. sure - it might screw something else up, but give us the choice and we'll take the resposibily if it doesn't work.Also, the video mode is pretty pants tbh.. I don't think I'd ever use that instead of firecapture for moon/planetary.
@markware5109
2 жыл бұрын
The ‘wows’ say it all!!! I’m waiting for delivery on mine! Thank you so much for your true insight! Just found your channel and subscribed. I’m in Roanoke, Virginia USA
@CuivTheLazyGeek
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! Welcome to the channel! Note that the ASIAIR is not perfect (I have another video where I list some features I wish it had), but overall it is quite impressive!
@markware5109
2 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek yes, I watched it too. Everything is going to have limitations. And ZWO seems to be listening. I’ve seen numerous vids on this device and and the consensus is that overall it’s a great upgrade to the previous models. Thank you again. Your channel is awesome!!
@MaartenAnna
2 жыл бұрын
Je suis bluffé -> I’m absolutely gobsmacked 😶 😉 Great video, I’ve been watching a few now, as I was looking into a budget way to set up a star tracker. But I’ve been really getting into your video. Question, what budget setup would you advice for someone just starting out? I have an old DSLR with a few lenses, I can use. More like a barndoor tracker, the rasberry pi route, or this route (eventhough the €€€ is soooo different?)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
2 жыл бұрын
If you are into serious astrophotography, then maybe a SkyWatcher EQM35 would be a good starting mount. Or the AZ-GTi in this video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/s6SX3qaviYWXrZg
@MaartenAnna
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply, honored you took the time for me (you’re kinda like a guru in the astro photography world). I saw that video, & I’m inclined to go that route. Or perhaps even the other route & get a small telescope, cooled camera & with guide scope & camera (your other video with that mount). But I like the Raspberry Pi & SkyView mount. Does the Raspberry Pi also work with other mounts (should I run into a 2nd hand mount somewhere)?
@eandres4772
3 жыл бұрын
Wow,wow,wow....🤣 very good...lo probaré en diciembre
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I hope you enjoy!
@milhouse8525
3 жыл бұрын
A fewl tips from an happy asiair pro and plus user (and a fellow frenchy !) : -You can do a custom framing from your image : while in preview mode, tape and hold on the screen, you'll have a "goto" button that appears, click it and asiair will move your mount to center on that point. if you run a shooting session with autorun mode after that, it will keep those coordinates. -Plan mode allow you to shoot multiple targets, but you can use autorun mode if you want to shoot only one target that night. (Plan basically runs autoruns in sequence) -For polar align, you don't need to see polaris, PA will work if you're pointing your scope in a 30° circle around celestial pole. (the closer the better, but it will work)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, this is super useful! In particular I will be using your first two tips in an upcoming video!
@milhouse8525
3 жыл бұрын
I discover the first one "by accident", I don't understand why this is not in like the first page of the manual, as it is so useful !
@fenrisulv
2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm thinking of getting the ASIAIR Plus, it's just too cold to be fiddling outside for ages before I can get to imaging :p I was wondering if it's necessary to also get guiding and autofocus with it, or if that can wait till later? I've never used guiding or autofocus before, and I'm quite new to this hobby so haven't really got to those parts yet. Also do you know if it works with the Celestron AVX mount? :)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
2 жыл бұрын
It really depends on your scope and image scale - if you're getting good pictures without guiding and autofocus, then that's fine. I'd personally add guiding for the AVX because that mount can be hit and miss, and with guiding comes the ability to dither, which is quite important (ASIAIR can't do blind dithers unfortunately)
@fenrisulv
2 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Thanks for your reply! I'll look into guiding too :) I'm using a 150/750 Celestron newtonian, does it matter what guidescope I use or can I go with, say the 32mm Artesky? Or would the Skywatcher 50ED Guidescope be better? Thanks again for your time :)
@JohnS916
3 жыл бұрын
You used up your quota of "wows" for the night. Thanks for going through this quickly, in other words, I got lost trying to follow your instructions. I'll check out your setup video and go from there. I ordered the previous ASIAIR, received it then found out the PRO PLUS was being released. High Point accepted my request to send it back and gave me the option of a refund or credit towards something else. I chose to order the PRO PLUS.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Too many wows! I couldn't help myself!
@JohnS916
2 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek No problem bro, I understand your enthusiasm when in my case more things go wrong than right. If it goes right then multiple "wows" are justified! Thanks for the great review otherwise.
@rafserrano2164
3 жыл бұрын
So looks like its going to be a Ménage à trois with Nina and Asia eh? 😆 joking aside, omg that is powerful and indeed for the lazy and impatient! Need to get my grubby paws on those! (And an astro cam, and a focuser, and a guide cam) 🙂 great video (and intro) 🙌🔥
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Raf - totally on a menage a trois now :D Hahaha you've got your roadmap all planned out! Don't fall too deep into the black hole :D
@rafserrano2164
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek hi Cuiv, so I am starting to step inside the "black hole" 😄 planning to start with a planetary camera (asi462mc) and an Asiair, using my current mirrorless camera as my main camera. My plan is to use the planetary cam in a guidescope connected to Asiair and the asiair connected to my AZ-GTI. Do you think I can I polar align with platesolving using that setup or by moving the guide cam to polar align then return the camera to the guidescope?
@T0varisch
Жыл бұрын
Oh dear. I'm sold. And I'm a software engineer. But I'm not an astronomer. ASIair is pre requisite from watching your videos. But is the SV705C I was going to get going to work ? I share your views on proprietary systems. No way can these guys do this. I'll work out how to stick NINA on a pre built box for £200 and work to clone missing functionality. But I have to become an astronomer first. Do I need to buy a two ZWO cameras to get it to work.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
Жыл бұрын
The SVBONY wouldn't work with the ASIAIR... The ASIAIR is great for beginners but if you're a software engineer, I think starting with miniPC + NINA would work great
@T0varisch
Жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek thanks greatly. It's such a pain isn't it. Scoring a boxed pi, unless I cheat, is more than the ASI mini, which I can get for £200 here in Thailand. Your stuff on NINA is fantastic, I know you've worked hard on that. If it's going to do the same tracking and framing magic etc then I'll man up and have a go. If we're going to force ASI to stop this proprietorial approach we'll have to prove this is easy to do and frees you up. This box, the ability to completely remotely control the telescope, is all but mission critical if you are doing photography, you've all made that very clear.
@ly8370
3 жыл бұрын
Do you mind sending this youtube video to ZWO team? They might take your feedbacks and address the issues in the next firmware release. :)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
They've seen it already :)
@waynerichardson1706
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Your video is the best product endorsement ZWO has had, compared with all the AAPlus videos released so far (I've seen all of them). Best advertising money ZWO spent! The video a perfect combo of an experienced technical eye, evaluating a new product with genuine enthusiasm and excitement. If ZWO sends you another free unit ... don't forget I'm available to baby-sit it :) :) :)
@projectnightshift6488
6 ай бұрын
I just got mine a few days ago and I will be saying goodbye to NINA for now, but I will miss a lot of features. The main one is being able to set filter offsets.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
6 ай бұрын
You may find yourself going back to NINA haha. Still the ASIAir is great (as long as you stick with ZWO gear for astro camera and focuser)
@projectnightshift6488
6 ай бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I don't think I'll ever fully depart from NINA. for me, the air is for remote imaging spots. I also realized there isn't a way to plate solve from previous sessions images on the air 🫤
@christopherlloyd926
2 жыл бұрын
Cuiv, I've just come across your posting and found it, and your previous one both stimulating and helpful. In fact, they've been so helpful that it has convinced me to resurrect my old enthusiasm for astrophotography and look into automation as much as possible. Many thanks for your enthusiasm and sharing with us your impressions of a wortwhile product. Clear skies, Paul.
@JRock4572001
3 жыл бұрын
So this unit will not work with any third party cameras? I currently use a Qhy guide camera so do I need to buy a zwo guide camera?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
YES (except Canon and Nikon DSLRs)... that's such a shame for such a polished package... you would need to switch to a ZWO guide camera...
@JRock4572001
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek thank you for the clarification. Great video as always.
@WindyCityAstrophotography
3 жыл бұрын
"Yeah, lock me, man!" 😂 Great walkthrough! Your spontaneity is so honest and it is such a compelling thing to watch you just try stuff. Great as always 👍
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@filipgloria
3 жыл бұрын
But I want dome control! Do I need to get another PC and get N.I.N.A. to have dome control over VPN? ^^
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha if you have a dome, stick to NINA for now :D
@filipgloria
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek: Well, I don’t have a dome (yet…) but I want the possibility!
@paolobottari6672
2 жыл бұрын
Grazie 👍🏻
@OzzMazz
3 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you Cuiv. I have the original ASIAIR and it demands both a Polar Alignment AND a tree three star alignment BEFORE I can use the iPad app. Rather unsatisfactory. Can you tell me if the new ASIAIR Plus has the same behaviour?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
That... Sounds weird. I think software wise all the ASIAir versions are the same, so maybe it's got something to do with your mount? I certainly didn't get that...
@OzzMazz
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I'm still having issues. I watched your video again and noticed you chose EQMode Mount as your mount. I don't have that option. You seem to have several screens worth of telescope choices, I only have 5. (SkyWatcher SynScan, SkyWatcher SynScan Beta, SkyWatcher Virtuoso Alt-Az, Takahashi Temma 2 and Vixen SkySensor 2000PC) I have an AZEQ5 mount as well. The only mount that makes sense is SkyWatcher Synscan. I plugged in the SynScan hand controller, used the RS232 cable to connect to the ASIAIR and no luck. I also tried direct USB from te mount to the ASIAIR without any success. The error message I spoke about goes like this: Connect Failed. Polar and 3-stars align required and please update the HC FW to the newest version, or check the connection of the USB cable. Oh dear!
@OzzMazz
3 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, follow the instructions. After a 3-star align and polar align, I can connect to the mount. If you read the manual it does explicitly state the previous alignments. Works on my iPad, but not one iPhone 12, more work. :)
@steorra314
3 жыл бұрын
this is really impressive i was gunna get the pro but might wait for the plus great video as always and good to see you have recovered
@amp2amp800
3 жыл бұрын
The most recent software update makes a lot (most? all?) of this available on the AApro too. There might be some features that are limited, but performance, power consumption, and wifi range seem to be the main plus points of the AAplus. You might be able to pickup the pro at a bargain price as they run down stocks and not miss out on much. Me... I bought a pro before I heard about the plus launch, so I'll stick with it for a wee while yet.
@Kyle_Hubbard
3 жыл бұрын
Buy the pro, unless you really need the WiFi. The Plus really doesn't offer anything extra of value other than the fact that that it has an antenna for WiFi. The pro version has an Ethernet port, so if you're leaving it in a permanent place just wire it up. You'll get better and quicker control and you can use it straight from a desktop if that's your thing. I can just set everything up from my desktop, see it out the window to make sure it's running and no issues, run it on my second monitor and play games with friends on the other monitor. Nice and warm while it's cold outside.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I think the one area besides the wifi that is better with the plus is the eMMC drive: the device OS resides there and besides imaging, all read write operations are there, which preserve the health of the microSD. There is also no need to backup the OS as I understand there is with the Pro. But yes, it seems to be more iterative than anything else!
@mrjeje
3 жыл бұрын
Moi ça m'a mis sur le cul aussi lol , l'asiair est génial, tout est plus simple ! Toujours top tes vidéos
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Exactement, c'est vraiment impressionant. Merci!
@nikivan
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I remember that feeling when I saw my first target (Rosetta nebula in Ha) on the tablet's screen. Hopefully, they'll add more advanced features, like dither every N frames (per filter, not global), capture until set time or target altitude, etc.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yes - they've been quite good at adding features apparently, so I'm looking forward to that!
@CaptRescue2
3 жыл бұрын
Its really great for new imagers, easy of use and less potential headaches!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - ZWO hopes to catch them young and keep them buying ZWO :p
@alcosound
2 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek that's their strategy - ASIair is the "gateway drug"
@TheNarrowbandChannel
3 жыл бұрын
A lot of WOW in this video. ;) Really the ASIAIR is awesome. I had the very first generation and it was truly impressive then to. The Pro model was not so much as the wifi limitations was about 5ft for me. That was extremely frustrating. But I am loving my Plus now. Can control it from bed like I could the Air Vr1.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe ZWO would release such a flawed product with the Pro - like a Faradet cage around antennas... But I'm glad they're replacing it with the Plus.
@TheNarrowbandChannel
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Ya the pro was a big disappointment to me too. The first version was so perfect though. Just did not have power management.
@thefourgrapples2810
3 жыл бұрын
I see that the ASIAIR has considerable WOW Factor.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha or maybe even many WOW factors. Too many :) Sorry!
@thefourgrapples2810
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek No need for apologies, I thought it was great.
@kucrapoc51
2 жыл бұрын
Whaou
@gewglesux
3 жыл бұрын
What the heck is this? all the cool people live in Japan.. should've moved there when i had the chance. Thanks!! first time here! love the channel!!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by and welcome to the channel! Japan is pretty cool, but it does have its drawbacks!
@gewglesux
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I know plenty people who live there and i agree. I stayed there but for never more than 3 months at a time.
@SH_space
3 жыл бұрын
Is there a setting to stop guiding during an autofocus? Because I'd imagine that this would be problematic if one has an OAG. Nice video by the way!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Good point - I don't think so at this stage...
@SH_space
3 жыл бұрын
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I just asked ZWO and they said it does by default. That's cool!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
@@SH_space very nice!
@micham.9057
3 жыл бұрын
Soo just started using NINA... Hm... :)
@richardshagam8608
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to do polar alignment looking at the NCP? Or can you do a drift alignment? Reason being, a tree blocks my view of the NCP where I usually set up. Edit--found my answer--no, you must have a view towards the NCP
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you need a view with 30 degrees of NCP
@jeffreyvictor3678
2 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation! Hope to see you back online soon!
@NikhilShahi
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Cuiv. Any chance you could create a video for auto-guiding a Star Adventurer with a DSLR/ lens combo? Would be a huge help to see how you set it up for auto-guiding that mount. I just placed an order for the ASI Air Plus for auto-guiding that mount (intention is to buy a go-to mount next year). Thanks.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don't have a Star Adventurer, and have no plans on buying one... So I can't make such a video at this stage... Maybe when I'm bigger as a channel, SW will be sending me stuff to test :p
@louisrosner7902
3 жыл бұрын
Love NINA which I use with my QHY 294 M pro and C8HD but this video convinced me to order the ASI AIR Plus for my smaller all ZWO setup refractor. Very exciting technology. Wish they would expand their camera and equipment choices. They would sell even more of them. Just a wish, kind of like for a bigger Cuiv coffee mug.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you! And yes, there would be a bigger coffee mug if Spreadshirt had them...
@mikelockwood2104
3 жыл бұрын
Love this video...watched it 5 times ( so far ). Why did you set the Guiding Rate in Telescope Settings to : 0.9x ?? I will close with this question as well - how do you determine the best Guiding Rate setting for one's own setup ? thank you in advance....
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! There's no rule... The guiding rate says how quickly you can react to changes in what you measure. So to correct the same measured error, a guide pulse on a guiding rate of 0.5x will have to be twice as long as a guide pulse on a guiding rate of 1.0x. Assuming you can get your guide pulse down to as low as you like (1ms), then there shouldn't be a difference, besides reacting more quickly. I guess that for some mounts reacting more quickly can be an issue - and I know EQMOD actually has a minimum guide pulse length (unlike GSS, which I prefer). In the end it's all about testing what works best in terms of guiding...
@AnakChan
3 жыл бұрын
I used the ASIAir Pro last year before N.I.N.A. and enjoyed it. Since then it's feature list has just grown. Agreed that it's merely the Advanced Sequencer that's keeping me with N.I.N.A. but if I didn't care about the Advanced Sequencer, the ASIAir works well with me. One other thing about PC-based vs ASIAir is that with PC, I find myself wanting to update more regularly - PHD2 dev, ASTAP, N.I.N.A. Nightly, Stellarium, etc. and overall feels more maintenance that with the ASIAir whose updates are more packaged and infrequent. Yes I know it's a self-discipline thing with PC that I don't have to, but the fact that each component is separate and independent with their own release cycles, I feel with PCs it's overall greater management.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
That's a very good point - maintaining several disparate pieces of software can indeed add up on the workload
@remidarpin8949
3 жыл бұрын
Je suis bluffé, comme on dis en francais :)
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Exactement :D
@tomdaigon8707
3 жыл бұрын
I love using ASIair Pro. But since my impending arrival of a 10 Micron mount I decided for my EdgeHD 11 / 10 Micron rig I would switch to NINA. Your wonderful tutorials revealed to me just how cool NINA is. And it can do dithering unguided, which ASIair doesn't. I dont mind that its PC based, because Model Creator 2 (for building models for the Microns unguided accuracy) is also PC based. I will continue using ASIair on my second rig which is a RASA 8 on an EQ6-R. So I will have the best of both worlds!
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
That's the best compromise! My Newt is still on NINA for the moment! I am so jealous of your new mount!!
@murraylee5628
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, How about trying it on the AZ GTi mount, I think it would be an awesome match (I say that because we own two AZ GTis, although we are using DSLRs and Synscan to keep it simple. (I have to polar align with Ipolar and a Windows surface as I am in the Southern Hemisphere). Keep well.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I want to do that - but the AZEQ5 has proven to be such a reliable (and still very light) workhorse for me, it's become my grab and go mount as well...
@michaelklemm-abraham7298
3 жыл бұрын
Dear Cuiv, There was a setting showing stop tracking before the meridian, so I guess it stopped captures before the meridian and stopped tracking at the meridian. You may want to check this setting if you want to capture after the meridian (the setting was visible in the video at 13:45). Maybe negative values are possible.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I checked it, no negative values possible that I could see. thank you!
@combatwombat71
3 жыл бұрын
So many "WOW!" exclamations, I'm guessing it must be pretty good! However, I think I am a dyed-in-the-wool laptop user, albeit controlled remotely over WiFi. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see much I could do with one of these units that I can't already do with a laptop?
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
You are correct - the laptop will do everything and more. For me, for a grab and go system with power delivery though it is very convenient!
@cbynum526
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Cuiv. I always enjoy your videos. I watched your unboxing video and knew when you tried it, you'd like it. I've used the ASIAir Pro for the last 6 months and the new firmware added a lot of features like multi star guiding. I recently added an external antenna to mine to give me the Plus advantage of wifi range. There's a how video on how to or send it off to a third party that will do it for $50. Like you said the biggest downside is you're locked into ZWO cameras or Canon or Nikon DSLRs. But I really like mine.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree - thanks for the feedback Chris!
@mikemcdonald2752
3 жыл бұрын
Looks impressive. Wonder if the autofocus will work with my Canon's autofocus thru the lens? (APT does this.) Probably doesn't matter as the preorders are sold out and ZWO has no idea when they might have the next batch. Wouldn't surprise me if it was next summer the way all of the chip shortages are going.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that would work - only the EAF is supported for focus, not the internal lens focusing mechanism... that's also really a shame.
@User1dentification
3 жыл бұрын
And finaly the channel starts to grow now over 12k!, watching the numbers increasing day by day. U deserve it as ur Video output is phenominal. Stay healthy.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm working hard to make the channel grow, but I'm under no illusions - others who have grown have usually done so by dumbing down the content to some extent. But I don't want to do that...
@MrBengourben
3 жыл бұрын
I've been seriously thinking about getting one of these for sometime. I use a raspberry pi with ekos and kstars. But I'm constantly tweaking, updating. Mostly it works great but sometimes for no reason things will go astray. I think the asiair offends our astrophotography egos! We like to figure out and work through the complications of Nina, ekos, and the other acquisition softwares. But it looks to me like this is the future... Seems to just work! Judging on your "wow" count alone, I'm getting one! Great review,thanks.
@CuivTheLazyGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, your analysis is spot on! egos are bruised by simple solutions. I really would love to see the ASIAir Plus support other manufacturers...
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