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@kenanderson5739
2 күн бұрын
TLF my favorite day of the WoW week!
@ecner20
Күн бұрын
😮😮😮
@Turbo_Aces
2 күн бұрын
Overall the meta looks quite balanced, to have all melee specs within 12% of eachother and the vast majority around 5% variance in dps is impressive and well done by blizzard so far..
@jonaya9944
Күн бұрын
Can I ask why its so hard to balance a game?
@antoniogonzalez4252
Күн бұрын
@@jonaya9944Because they refuse to have different auras for pvp, m+, raid and open world. So a spec performs well in raid like Fury hence they get shafted in all other content when nerfed.
@ItztoobadthatI
Күн бұрын
@@antoniogonzalez4252 This.
@The0nlyy
Күн бұрын
@@jonaya9944because there’s hundreds of skills, thousands of talents, and dozens of tier sets. Nearly infinite possibilities to consider in a vacuum until people discover what is meta. Balancing classes against themselves is hard enough, but considering them in every possible combination of 5 man groups and 30 man raids is even harder.
@L0rks
2 күн бұрын
People do love tier lists, don't they? Thank you for the analysis :)
@MarcelianOnline
2 күн бұрын
They do!
@antoniobuenodevlin9456
Күн бұрын
Nice to see Enhance doing well in terms of dps for once. It deserves being one of the top if executed correctly as it's by far one of the more complex/ punishing specs to play.
@tangokilla
Күн бұрын
lol
@RVKZ_
Күн бұрын
Agree, high learning curve high compesation
@That_kind_of_orc
2 күн бұрын
Survival A tier let's gooo! I remember you hinted at this haha what a nice surprise
@Briansgate
Күн бұрын
Just so you know, I didn't skip to the end, I watched the whole video! Thanks, Flame!
@MarcelianOnline
Күн бұрын
Hahaha, you are the best
@TheDovahlemon
Күн бұрын
Man am I so torn for a main this expansion! I'm loving Enhance and Fury and I'm keeping an eye on Survival aswell. Man why do I have to be so indecisive... 😂
@joemama2455
11 сағат бұрын
being a frost DK main for idk 15+ years that stopped playing since covid.....must say....i came back at the right time lol
@diegostrossen6751
2 күн бұрын
Melee is mostly balanced in terms of overall damage then :), the biggest difference is utility and affixes are not too demaning in that area either
@tomastykal4870
Күн бұрын
Arms is B- tier. Another nerf is coming
@handoflucifer
Күн бұрын
haha true
@robertt4116
Күн бұрын
Personally, I would rank Wind Walker in S Tier, I have never felt so strong in single target until this expansion
@stankweezul5715
Күн бұрын
I tried Frost DK because yes, I meta chased but it doesn't seem as smooth as Ret. Hit hard but it felt kinda clunky
@QuipSoil
Күн бұрын
You gotta love your class and well also class mastery me personally I play unholy in mythics with frost dks I’m 612 item level and so are they and I do more dmg it’s gear and class mastery
@minciNashu
22 сағат бұрын
If you want smooth try unholy
@upinair4990
17 сағат бұрын
I character boosted my ret pally and have been maining it. Visuals are awesome however kind of boring rotation wise
@gameaccount3420
Күн бұрын
More lists, more lists please!
@plusmental2660
Күн бұрын
HPal's healing is being nerfed sure but its damage is being buffed significantly
@82guitarman
Күн бұрын
I’m loving ret. I haven’t even hit M+ yet. It’s just a fun spec to play and also looks awesome visually. My shammy isn’t geared at all and does fairly well too. I could only imagine if he was higher geared.
@panzerkampfu
Күн бұрын
I wish Frost DK was more fun to play. I love the concept, but it just feels so trash. I mean, you do a lot of damage in your burst window, then you do nothing until your CD's are back.
@FABBYFLAME
19 сағат бұрын
I enjoi the input u have on each class and their peirformance☺️dont skip to just end see the list without the reasning
@djaibi6678
Күн бұрын
It seems Ret has risen since you did your video. Quite a lot actually.
@vinnyvinn8444
2 сағат бұрын
What Is the damage number addon , while playing unholy dk?
@Electric_
Күн бұрын
Everything is totally viable in raid and M+ for melee. I would put Arms into the A tier though for raid, just behind Ret
@THELUCIDLULLABY
2 күн бұрын
Here is new tier list. And we will get into that in a second.
@MarcelianOnline
2 күн бұрын
As you should!
@gustavoascanio767
Күн бұрын
Nice video!!! I’m currently playing as an Unholy DK, but is it worth to change to Frost? I like both of the specs equal
@BRIANRUCKER84
2 күн бұрын
Cries in feral.
@mercertevyn
2 күн бұрын
Feral is doing great
@MarcelianOnline
2 күн бұрын
meow?
@Ermji
2 күн бұрын
Wdym Feral is in the [B]est tier
@amortylessrick5680
Күн бұрын
I find it kinda upsetting because deathbringer is the only way to play frost dk and it so far has counted for 65% of my total damage done, though most of my runs
@leonardceres9061
Күн бұрын
I play riders. because I enjoy it. I still usually top the DPS meters because I want to.
@staciaa15432
Күн бұрын
Riders is better if you don't play breath
@CatDad312
2 күн бұрын
Oh boy another tier list 😂 I don’t care if Unholy is never the best, Unholy Riders is the most enjoyable spec in the game. Unholy is S+ for higher keys and bigger pulls
@dispozablehero9829
Күн бұрын
Unholy always does great in big pulls and was king for a couple seasons in DF
@kjhaglfjhgfasd
Күн бұрын
I mean. I had an unholy same 605ilvl as me doing 6mil dps in AOE pulls. Dude was COOKING lol
@tangokilla
Күн бұрын
Just wait until Frost gets nerfed. Unholy is amazing and will only get better once they get 4pc tier set
@syxqid3818
Күн бұрын
Wow my sv hunter so high 😂 happy to see this. Also finally frost dk can perform without breath. Finally something new since legion ❤
@livebythews
2 күн бұрын
Frost gonna get nerfed. Their damage is wild rn
@tangokilla
Күн бұрын
That's when Unholy will shine. Unholy already popping off
@mateuscarvalho9584
Күн бұрын
Playing Unholy DK and convincing myself I shouldnt try Frost Although, my notebook would thank me smashing less buttons on keyboard
@spyrobesity9435
Күн бұрын
cries in arms, why can't we get a multi-target buff. SS needs to hit 3 additional targets at LEAST. that would help a lot
@ZweiKyozumi
Күн бұрын
We are top in raid and viable in m+😂 , not sure what are you on😂 Our main knock is arms aoe package is literally cleave + reap the storm and we don't have the best on demand burst aoe ( with slayer, but colossus is pretty solid in m+ ATM) , but tuning can change this. Fury is so dependent on OF and BS being strong that it's alr nerfed😅
@jeanzinn16
Күн бұрын
WTF where elemental Shaman?
@markuslc1888
Күн бұрын
havoc is really strong in RTWF
@vroxus5107
Күн бұрын
I'm frost dk, not super good, but I consistently get smashed by ret paladins. Only class that beats me normally
@shinyshiny82
Күн бұрын
Trying to balance every class or people will cry vs making classes really fun and possibly broken lol.
@dispozablehero9829
Күн бұрын
Monk was god tier until they got rid of the ToD aoe. Oh well im just glad enhance shaman is getting love. Been my favorite melee since legion
@Nesti85
2 күн бұрын
Am i the only frost DK that does not get enough killing machine procs? My DPS suffers from this so much. 😭
@federockstar82
Күн бұрын
need crit
@dudecannon9370
Күн бұрын
Has anyone SMF fury? They hit pretty hard.
@hameed
2 күн бұрын
Really wanted to love frost DK but it’s one of the most boring specs I’ve ever played
@cainsalem3544
2 күн бұрын
Huhhhh
@devinvankan2403
Күн бұрын
What frost DK do you play lol. DB with exterminate seeing a huge scythe while seeing DB crits of over a million is satisfying AF
@hameed
Күн бұрын
@@devinvankan2403 the scythes look awesome for sure
@wyattpedersen3970
53 минут бұрын
but i like prot pally... 😥
@polybius9089
Күн бұрын
Am I dreaming???? FROST DK is S-tier in M+?!?!?
@handoflucifer
Күн бұрын
nerf incoooming
@Roozhy
Күн бұрын
It's not the damage that makes frost S tier. It's the ability to say "No." To a mechanic and B-rezz people.
@profmucker3200
Күн бұрын
I say no to mechanics with every class.
@Roozhy
Күн бұрын
@@profmucker3200 If you played DK then you would understand they take it to a whole nother level. Oh it's a push back or pull mechanics, nah I'll just stand here with deaths advance and ignore it. Root? No problem Wraith Walk. Oh it's a fear I'll just use lichborn and gain leech. Oo scary magic effect, I'll just AMS and purge it. Income big damage or a stun, ice bound fortitude. Oops I took a big hit that's okay, death strike back to full health. No other class has so many ways of saying "no" to a mechanic.
@NoBrainah
12 сағат бұрын
@@RoozhyWrong. I just die after first hit and ignore the whole raid so
@OLDsnake519
Күн бұрын
Sad to see unholy in b tier, and if tier lists are indicative of anything, my unholy DK won’t be getting into pugs for keys. Oh well.
@vonnerseite
51 минут бұрын
Arms Warrior: Bladestorm Damage has been reduced by 10% how to make a shit specc even more shit
@whicky100
2 күн бұрын
What's that DPS meter he's using? That looks clean as fuck
@jackgoldstraw
Күн бұрын
details
@whicky100
Күн бұрын
I have details, is it an add-on for details?
@SavzillaHD
Күн бұрын
@@whicky100 You just add another window and attach it together, is that what you mean?
@jackgoldstraw
Күн бұрын
@@whicky100 have you got a timestamp for the video, of what you are looking at just so i can help a bit better? But as the other guy said, i think it might just be another window for details if you want to see multiple things like healing and damage
@Felipe-pf9mr
Күн бұрын
Bm hunter? Xd
@fos8789
Күн бұрын
bro next week dont do just the ranged dps tier list, just do the complete dps tierlist, to compare this versus the ranged too
@miifed
21 сағат бұрын
"Fury warrior is the hope that warrior has of being a good class" *Laughs in Prot Warrior* The nonsense this dude spews.... sigh
@slayrx
Күн бұрын
Arms B tier? Really, in what universe? Its trash.
@slayer6759
Күн бұрын
🔥😍
@karnevor77
Күн бұрын
I’ve been out dpsing everything on my pally
@MarcelianOnline
Күн бұрын
I've been out dpsing meta specs on my Fire Mage, doesn't mean anything :D
@upinair4990
17 сағат бұрын
Link talents lol, I’ve been doing terrible on my pally
@michaelhaley7269
Күн бұрын
I truly don’t understand what I’m doing wrong. I’ve been playing WoW since literal day 1 of vanilla, and have mained DK since they came out in Wrath. Given, 99% of that time, I’ve played as Unholy, as Frost is almost always unplayably bad in both PvE and PvP. And because of my countless hours of experience and sweaty try-hardness, I’m essentially always in the top 3 DPS, minimum. I’m not fully geared at all yet, but so far in TWW as Frost this is by FAR the weakest I’ve ever felt on a DK and it’s not even remotely close. I’m literally BARELY out DPSing tanks in raids. I have all the experience, and Frost is definitely easier to play than Unholy, and I’m not horribly geared, so I just don’t get how I’m going so badly this expansion.
@devinvankan2403
Күн бұрын
What do you play in M+. Using DB means you have a 45 sec rotation of cds.
@zp8lu
2 күн бұрын
First
@MarcelianOnline
2 күн бұрын
classy!
@smizara
2 күн бұрын
I dont think sub rogue is that bad
@Vajshan
2 күн бұрын
9:06 happy to belong to the 20%👍
@MarcelianOnline
2 күн бұрын
Wait, were you one of the Frost DKs in the top 10?
@Vajshan
2 күн бұрын
@@MarcelianOnline No, sorry to disappoint you. I am not skipping to the end to watch the final ranking, like 80% of the people watching. That is what Flame says at 9:06
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