We had a 1st gen Echo in our master bathroom for listening to music in the morning kzitem.infoUgkxABghAEkaIDGZfHRBH3D3rBrlraNmnC71 and while in the shower. I didn't realize how tinny and awful the sound output on the original Echo was until we replaced it with the Studio. It was a sonic upgrade far beyond what I was expecting. Just wow. I love it because it's like having speakers IN the shower. My friend likes it because the music is so loud that she can no longer hear me singing. So that's a win-win.
@TheHammerofDissidence
4 жыл бұрын
"I like standmount speakers" *Klipsch Cornwall looms over Steve's shoulder*
@davediaz5127
4 жыл бұрын
Right?...I was thinking the same thing lol
@pmd7530
4 жыл бұрын
You’re allowed to like more than one type
@TheHammerofDissidence
4 жыл бұрын
@@pmd7530 I had no idea. Why didn't someone tell me?
@pmd7530
4 жыл бұрын
david davidson we’d hoped you’d work it out for yourself.... your stupid comment proved you still hadn’t so I did. You’re welcome
@TheHammerofDissidence
4 жыл бұрын
@Fat Rat people on the autism spectrum have a hard time understanding humor. Go easy on him.
@fletchermunson6225
3 жыл бұрын
I'm auditioned these and mated its a Schiit Gungnir and Raganok 2 is magic. Really dynamic and vividly true to my expectations. I bought them. I am impressed with the bass this speaker puts out. Clean, dynamic. I am satisfied. They might nudge out my Dyneaudio Evoke 20s.
@jessielees
4 жыл бұрын
good compression drivers are absolutely stunning.
@shillman9
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t normally by audio equipment without listening to it in person. Unfortunately the web and superstores have done away with the old Hi-Fi stores making it difficult to locate and listen to most new additions to my system. Thanks for an accurate description of these wonderful little speakers in this video. It helped me to make a decision and I was not disappointed. I love how bright and balanced they are and appreciate the info.
@freethinksman4393
4 жыл бұрын
I have M2s. They were the first horn speakers I’ve ever loved. If they’re trickling down to their home speakers they’re worth a listen.
@paulmlemay
4 жыл бұрын
Dammit Steve, I just love your videos. You always have positive things to say about audio equipment and you bring a ton of joy and enthusiasm to this great hobby!
@robmills537
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve on looks alone they would sell well to me they certainly have got that wow factor, and from your review they back it up with the sound quality. Great review as usual 👍
@gruanger
4 жыл бұрын
I really like your reviews, especially when you introduce artists you listened to. I listened to Holly Cole Trio and loved her voice. Thank you!
@robertmay8156
3 жыл бұрын
"Pretty pretty good" lol. Actually, I bought these speakers based on this review. Very happy with my purchase. Thanks Steve!
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
4 жыл бұрын
Steve ! I been waiting for someone to review these i mean i reviewed the JBL studio 530 and they dont sound like a horn either but i know the HDI series are another level up 😃 thanks Steve ! Hopefully one day I can get these into the channel 😃JBL likes power !!!!
@chrisj9008
3 жыл бұрын
Been trying to find and comparison between the 5 series and the HDI line
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisj9008 right JBL an email ! For me to review them ! You know i will be str8 up !
@kevinmcgrath3591
4 жыл бұрын
Im just glad someone else noticed how amazing the music is on "My Octopus Teacher" is. Good call Steve
@Sebastian-qu6vd
4 жыл бұрын
Great review. JBL's been hitting it out of the park as of late. Are you going to give the new 4349's a listen anytime soon?
@johnsteitz6310
3 жыл бұрын
This speaker has low sensitivity because otherwise the "horn" would overpower the single small woofer. The much larger HDI 3800 with tripple 8's has a real world sensitivity of 92db !
@mondoenterprises6710
4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was an audio store like a ski rental store where you could go up to a counter and demo speaker sets at home and bring them back, also amps , etc
@cityfantv-everythingmancit2946
4 жыл бұрын
Mondo Enterprises we all do
@hugevibez
4 жыл бұрын
If you spend enough at a distributor they'll probably let you, but that's only for ultra high end
@RasheedKhan-he6xx
4 жыл бұрын
"If you build it they will come!" Let us know if you ever decide to do this. 👍
@mondoenterprises6710
4 жыл бұрын
@@RasheedKhan-he6xx It is an interesting business model to explore. A costco membership type thing might be one part of it. It might require sending techs out to install and remove items. Insurance would be hell.
@dudemastermaster8944
4 жыл бұрын
Come to Europe it’s reality here.
@jimshaw899
4 жыл бұрын
Things I like about this review: Good expression of values, a playlist I can get from my streamer, and your effort to mix it up with different peripherals. All subjective stuff, but accurate and comparative. Kudos. This is one big reason why I respect my streaming capability. I can hear your playlist, or pick up on something that catches my interest from many places, and most often find it in CD or better quality to play in the living room playback equipment. Yeah, I have a bunch of CD's and a ton (literally) of vinyl, but all that is really ponderous when I want to hear a song or an album I pick up on your channel or other places -- with little sacrifice in source quality. And I don't have to buy a whole CD to experience what you or others are talking about.
@farokhbulsara4890
2 жыл бұрын
Havent listened to any new jbls on the market, i bought a pair of jbl lx44s back in 1991. And they still sound great, thanks for the revuew steve
@jonathanknight8251
4 жыл бұрын
To a first order approximation, you can think of a waveguide as a special class of horns. Both provide acoustic gain by confining the driver’s dispersion to a much narrower range than it would otherwise have. Classical horns tend to have rather narrow coverage angle and high gain (10-12 dB is not uncommon.). They also, if well designed, can have fairly flat on-axis frequency response. However, their dispersion narrows with increasing frequency. They also tend to be fairly long, making phase response of the complete speaker difficult to optimize. Waveguides are usually designed for constant directivity, meaning that directivity is independent of frequency. They usually have wider directivity than classical horns and are shorter, so they have less gain (circa 6dB or so). They don’t tend to load the driver to low frequencies as well as a horn does, and they roll off high frequencies. They require a more complex crossover with equalization to address these issues. There are some payoffs, though. The constant directivity tends to sound more natural in most rooms, because the frequency response of reflected sound is close to that of direct sound. Since they are relatively short, it is easier to align the phase with low frequency drivers without resorting to electronic delay. If designed well, they also suffer less from mouth reflections which cause blurred transients in the lower end of their operating range than most horns do.
@BenSilberfarb
4 жыл бұрын
Another great review. Very complete w/comparisons etc. This is why I subscribe!
@davidhoover2446
4 жыл бұрын
Only thing to keep in mind when moving a narrow baffle speaker away from the wall or corner is that you will loose up to 3dB of lows and mids when moving away from a wall and up to 6dB of lows and mids if moving from a corner. Narrow baffle speakers like bookshelves and towers have a really high corner frequency. So, 1kHz and under just get thrown everywhere, 360 degrees. So, moving the speakers around or adding acoustic panels (I recommend 4" thick 703 or mineral wool) behind and around the speakers will change the sound dramatically usually for the better, but it depends on the speaker, room, and preference. 4" panels absorb down to 125Hz very well and one panel is as efficient as 2 if it is open backed and there is an air gap between the acoustic panel and the wall. People including you forget about acoustics. You can transform your sound with a few 4" thick panels placed well.
@KingOath
4 жыл бұрын
The real reason for the waveguide is time alignment of the tweeter. We can achieve efficiency and dispersion without a big plastic thing around the tweeter. It’s just a great excuse to set the tweeter back into the baffle. This is probably the cause of the clean precise sound described. I’m all for it
@Cujobob
4 жыл бұрын
You can’t control directivity as well without a large waveguide. Earl Geddes has lots of papers about this if you’re curious as to how it all works.
@KingOath
4 жыл бұрын
Cujobob Of course, not as well. But well enough for the average buyers living room. I’m sure directivity control was a factor in choosing that HF design for this speaker. I just can’t see it being the primary reason. I think they probably wanted to set back the tweeter, and have it crossed over low while being robust with a high output and power handling, so they could use a heavier duty woofer without losing upper midrange detail. This would also explain the low sensitivity and high output performance described in the review
@FOH3663
4 жыл бұрын
@@KingOath No, it's all about the waveguide. That waveguide has been a key component for JBL across many of their lines. The waveguide's directivity control and characteristics are THE reason, not to physically set the driver back. Over the past several years, JBL has poured significant R&D effort into this waveguide. The strongly successful M2 Studio/Mastering monitor brought this image control waveguide into the scene. Since then, JBL has adopted more advanced versions of it top to bottom across many of their offerings. It's safe to say no loudspeaker manufacturer has spent more time, effort, and money on better pyscho-acoustic understanding on which directions to pursue. They've been developing many new technologies at Northridge (such as this Image Control Waveguide), then incorporating them into products. They've been on a roll as of late.
@KingOath
4 жыл бұрын
@@FOH3663 Wow, great post, thanks! So are you saying that they are kind of using the directivity control as a way to enhance the perception of soundstage and imaging rather than just for basic “frequency spread” as it would be used in a PA speaker?
@2wrdr
4 жыл бұрын
That movie/documentary is a very good movie for us curious folks.
@rvpl9264
4 жыл бұрын
I think items were shown for longer periods than usual. This makes the visual element more interesting. 👍 Request: Have you any experience with room tuning systems?
@dedskin1
3 жыл бұрын
Wave Guide expands as it goes further , horn is essentially one angle , it gets wider of course but angel stays the same , so if you have an increasing angle you get directivity but not the horn ringing , sounds open . That is what they put on studio monitors . Its a best way to do it , best compromise .
@flyboymcgee8059
5 ай бұрын
Ribbon tweeters on studio monitors sound very natural. Would love to have some hi-fi designed by Adam Audio
@techocrazy
4 жыл бұрын
I like the brand which sells the whole set, center, bookshelf, surrounds, atmos etc. So far elac has me satisfied. Having yamaha paired to Elac has made the sound even better.
@kohnfutner9637
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a system I'd recommend. Denon goes well with elac too IMO. Klipsch would be quite a bit different than the Elac if you're in the mood for something with more kahoonies.
@techocrazy
3 жыл бұрын
@@kohnfutner9637, nope Denon & Elac doesn't sound good. You need a reciever that can really push some quality watts into these power hubgry speaker & Yamaha seems to be better than Denon. Plus with Denon the speakers sounded thin and lifeless, yamaha just bring a life to them.
@kohnfutner9637
3 жыл бұрын
@@techocrazy I liked the elac with the Yamaha as well. To me they sounded to be lacking some top end extension but the bass was good. I didn't think the Yamaha made the elac ub5 come to life but I thought it did make them sound more natural and smooth with better bass because Yamaha has a tendency to set every speaker to large, whereas the Denon has a tendency to set everything to small. I've seen my Denon set the elac ub5 as high as 120 and as low as 60, while the speakers have not moved. The Denon often reads the elac as wired wrong, so I guess it thinks the speakers are out of phase. But imo I thought the Denon brought the elac to life more because it brought out the treble. I liked them both but I think there's probably a better combination with elac than Denon or Yamaha. Neither one really seemed to be what I preferred because I liked mixed bits of what both could do. Ideally, I think the Yamaha is too laid back because the elac are laid back too and the Denon is too up front (sounds to favor a v-shape equalizer with audyssey32). Neither one were a great match imo. I thought they were ok matches but nothing spectacular. I would see what Steve Guttenberg recommended.
@jked7463
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see JBL coming back to prominence. The midrange of the KEF will be more coherent because of the concentric, time aligned, arrangement. Now someone needs to bring back Fisher, the good Fisher days. You know, tubes. A friend used to provide parts for Avery Fisher. He always bought the best.
@mrt6349
4 жыл бұрын
I love my JBL LS40 looks similar, i will have to listen to these new speakers.
@Bloodmoon1985
4 жыл бұрын
I own them as well I think they’re incredible. These are supposed to be the replacement. I hope to get these someday as well:)
@jasoncarey2092
4 жыл бұрын
The ls 40 is a 3 way isn't it? To me, this looks like an upgrade of the hls 610 jbl made in the late 90s. For a mass-market box store speaker, the 610 sounds pretty pretty pretty good
@kohnfutner9637
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe jbl will do a big blowout on the bdi series like they have with the studio series, which are great. Especially if they don't sell at full price because of the kef meta. Not saying it won't take 5, 6 or 7 years but I could see it going on special within a year or two. Let's face reality, most people are probably going to get the meta, hugely because of the price being less and the hype/fame being much higher
@scottyo64
4 жыл бұрын
Nice looking little speakers. My pocket book says I will be sticking with my B1+ though. Love Casey Abrams especailly the stuff he does with Haley
@thomasanonymous594
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve for this interesting and educating review! God bless you!
@vdrc9787
4 жыл бұрын
You need to get over to the Harman store and listen to the new 4349 monitors (replacement of the 4429 that you liked) and let us know if they’re worth the $2500 price increase!
@vdrc9787
4 жыл бұрын
@Concorde 0 it’ll have to be on the used market...I contacted a JBL rep a few weeks ago and he told me the 4429s are no longer available. Harman store in New York had their demo pair for sale, but not sure if it’s been sold. Really curious to see if the larger cabinet and change in waveguide makes the speaker that much ($2500 increase!) better.
@thomasanonymous594
2 жыл бұрын
It would be really interesting if the gentleman we know as Steve Guttenberg should review a rather affordable, horn loaded / "waveguided", bookshelf speaker like the JBL Studio 630... God bless you, Steve!
@allencraig8161
4 жыл бұрын
Listened to the Holly Cole Trio song mentioned, had to listen to Holly Cole Tennessee Waltz to clear my head.
@charleskingReal
4 жыл бұрын
A waveguide alters the directivity of a transducer, so it helps ensure the tweeter has the right dispersion and doesn't beam. A horn helps correct for the huge impedance mismatch between the relatively massy speaker diaphragm and the much lighter air it's trying to push, thus improving power transfer and efficiency. They may look similar, but they're doing very different jobs.
@dawolyan13
3 жыл бұрын
So Buchardt would be waveguide, Klipsch a horn?
@StormCentre88
3 жыл бұрын
0:40 - it is a horn, but JBL use the term "waveguide" because the Hi Fi industry generally doesn't like horns.
@chrisj9008
3 жыл бұрын
??A horn is a waveguide. The waveguide refers to the pathing effect distributing and shaping pressure waves.
@StormCentre88
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisj9008 All waveguides are horns, but not all horns are waveguides. They're just called waveguides because the manufacturer is more focused on the pattern control behavior of the horn as opposed to the SPL/efficiency increase the horn provides.
@goodforwatch
4 жыл бұрын
Go ahead Steve say it 😁 come on say it🤷🏻♂️ "it is not horny, not horny at all🤭" what a fine salesman Steve is, give him a round of 👏👏 people 😁
@solomonstewart1025
4 жыл бұрын
Steve, give Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown a listen.
@idolhanz9842
4 жыл бұрын
Aready has, I would wager.
@mikesummers5860
4 жыл бұрын
Direct comparison to rp600m seems in order
@marcellaufer9668
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Summers yes, that’s the right comparison!
@tylerstewart1471
3 жыл бұрын
@@marcellaufer9668, I presume that you're referring to the upgraded version, because otherwise they wouldn't be on the same mark.
@AllboroLCD
4 жыл бұрын
Ive always liked JBL Control ONE, still used as my main desktop speakers. The HDI's look like they justify the price tag too but bookshelf units shouldnt go past $1000 a pair IMHO.
@brotherbrian5625
4 жыл бұрын
Horn or no horn.. good breakdown. What is it ?? It's JBL speakers (New) I love JBL I'm impartial to companies that have been around. If the sound is there 1800$ isn't bad. It's all about sound! These will sell themselves I'm sure. 👍😎
@jake105
3 жыл бұрын
Any JBL audiophiles out there who would possible know the model of JBL "tower" speaker circa 1986. My best description as I remember them are: Approx 40" plus inches tall, it had (2) 8" woofers, 2 medium range woofers & 1 tweeter (All vertical in-line). The top had a removable piece of smoked glass and it also came with a small brass like plaque that you stick on a foot like stand. I call the stand a foot because it stuck out a few inches in front for stability (I guess). It didn't raise the height of the speakers more than an inch or 2. So it was kind of like a foot or a shoe maybe you screwed into the bottom. I bought them overseas, and left them at a friends house. When I got back. He was gone and the house was in foreclosure.
@pbaker7160
4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tested speakers/audio equipment with the jazz group Flim & The BB's? If not, you're missing out. These recordings were processed with full digital DMP production. You'd be hard pressed to find a higher quality recording anywhere. Amazing clarity and sound.
@RealHIFIHelp
4 жыл бұрын
Clean, clean, clean sounds like it can't play bass. I would personally never settle with less than the new l100 classic model, that is a pretty good speaker for the price.
@C--A
4 жыл бұрын
Real HIFI Help the specs say 40Hz - 30Khz. That's very good for a bookshelf speaker, very few songs have parts that go below 40Hz. Unless you mainly listen to drum & bass or big classical orchestra music that can get down to 20Hz then your fine.
@RealHIFIHelp
4 жыл бұрын
@@C--A First of all to get a proper bass extension, then the 2 way speaker needs to be close to the floor to get a proper amplification of the bass, or else the room will suck out that sound being to high and having such a small cabinet. That is why the bigger jbl is much better: bigger, better parts and much closer to the ground. (ground coverage gives like 2x more effect of proper bass) Almost everything in the world ending at around 40hz is really really bad, because that means it does not fully unload the sound. Proper bass only happens with speakers that end into the circa 29hz area, and even that is not nearly good enough. Bass gets too tight and does not fully release while pulling you down around the 40-29hz area, it gets close, but it always leaves you with a certain amount of uncertainty, and a plastic like sound that just stays in the middle. All the best speakers in the world go down to 25-12hz in their specs. And that has nothing to do with the ability to hear it, or having a proper distance from the speaker to the listener so the wave can fully deliver a 20 hz signal, it just means that if you do not extend below 30hz, it feels like the sound is just not convincing enough. That last little bit, is the aftershock effect that 99.9% of speakers can't do. That is why you pay the big bucks for the big speakers and make good cabinets. If you want to experience this effect, then try Verity Sarastro, Peak Consult dragon, Audio Note spe/he, or the biggest Marten Design models, those are the best speakers in the world at delivering bass/overall sound. Most speakers ending at around 40-30 hz sound suspicious and like they are sitting on the sound, so it does not fully unload. If you listen to Tin pan Alley with Steve ray vaugn, then they effect that comes a couple of times in the song, is supposed to sound like there is a truck behind the wall unloading sugar beats into your room. It is a violent effect that truly displays this ability. Most speakers only ending around 40hz, has an effect that sound like it is rolling away from you as a listener, fading into the background. It totally destroys the flow of music, and makes everything sound weird/hesitant/like it is sitting on the sound and making it more nice than it should be.
@RealHIFIHelp
4 жыл бұрын
@@C--A Paul from PSaudio, mentioned in a video that the frequencies we can't heard, affect the ones that we can hear, that is why the extreme 10hz - 100khz, actually do make a difference. I also thought like you did before, but had a weird feeling that there just was something magical about getting into the 29-12hz low zone. Try the Marten Bird 1 speakers, that is a very good example of that, and one of the best speakers in the world, it has one of the best trebles in the world together with the Verity Sarasto. I think they both go up to 100 khz, and have an insanely good treble driver. And if you ever want to hear the some of the craziest good bass then try Audio Note an-e spe/he or one of the bigger models, the top 4 models have a bass response that is in a league of it's own, where even the bigger driver speakers in the world many times can't even get close to that performance. There it feels like it has it's own gravity field, sucking you in.
@jrsinspections3280
3 жыл бұрын
He mentioned in the video that the bass was good but if you want deep bass extension one should buy a sub.
@OMG_BeCkY
4 жыл бұрын
Now review the JBL Studio 530 please? Finally?
@paulitik7
4 жыл бұрын
For real. Mine get better every day
@raidendigital1003
4 жыл бұрын
no u
@chrisj9008
3 жыл бұрын
The whole 5 series line when on sale is just stupid value. I have 4 530s and 2 580s and waiting for the 590s to go back on sale. I have a dedicated media room / theater and they are seriously awesome. I do find the 580s are a woolley different sound, far more open, articulate and of course powerfull. But it's like the 530s are held back compared to the 580s.
@chrisj9008
3 жыл бұрын
Well the 590s are now ordered...
@miguelt.7997
4 жыл бұрын
Really curious how the LS50 Meta compares to the Triangle EZ Titus, Steve did prefer the Triangle over the regular LS50's.
@kohnfutner9637
4 жыл бұрын
That's a good question.
@drewwilson1477
4 жыл бұрын
Steve. What else is there? We nicer saw the full T Shirt. That was the graphic below Audio? We will never know!
@johnl1651
2 жыл бұрын
great info, a pair that bring me back are the classic JBL L112
@avjake
3 жыл бұрын
JBLs tend to do dynamics very well. Not surprised they outdid the KEFs in that area. But I wonder how the KEF LS50 Wireless IIs would compare (once broken in), with their 155 watts per channel built in.
@Eneterriaga
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to know how does it compare to the klipsch rp600m in terms of dynamics and if it feels so alive like being in the concert
@frederikjacob1985
4 жыл бұрын
I had a demo 2 weeks ago with the klipsch rp600m and these ones. The klipsch is more fun to listen to. BUT this one has more bass, detail and air between instruments. But the soundstage was better on the klipsch. Preferred the klipsch over these.
@roblawrence4792
4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear, I was wondering the same thing....
@joeyannece6197
3 жыл бұрын
How do you measure SPL in the room? I also agree with another poster. I've never heard a reviewer say a speaker sounds like crap with the exception of Yamaha NS10's :) If everything sounds great what doesn't?
@kirkcunningham6146
4 жыл бұрын
I think this series is more of a dual purpose two channel stereo and Home Theater type speaker system aimed more towards Home Theater. I would love to upgrade my JBL 500 series to the HDI but you're looking at 8 grand for the entire series for Home Theater. Way too expensive when the 500 series is amazing in it's own right. Maybe in time, they will move them to the JBL website and do their peek a boo sales half off strategy. Then I'll buy right away...
@chrisj9008
3 жыл бұрын
100%. Love my 5 series theater setup.
@kirkcunningham6146
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisj9008 me too! Best speakers I've ever owned!
@chrisj9008
3 жыл бұрын
@@kirkcunningham6146 been playing with more toe angle so they cross infront and my god... New day records was talking about it In a waveguide video... my 580s and 530s do sound better this way and more consistent across the seats of my media room..
@theshootindutchman
4 жыл бұрын
It's just so interesting..........I would have bet my right leg that Steve would be a complete Steely Dan sold out fan! But alas......all of the Dan's beauty and magic is lost on our boy Steve😞
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
4 жыл бұрын
I was mostly into steely Dan back in the day, when it was new music. Sure it’s still great, but it just doesn’t speak to me the way it used to.
@mikrophonie5633
4 жыл бұрын
Steely Dan lol bunch of coked-up session hacks. And Fagen cannot sing.
@ttrrs_o3498
4 жыл бұрын
Mikro Phonie opinions are like $&@$)(s. Every one has one-no harm!
@theshootindutchman
4 жыл бұрын
Steve thanks for the response.......at least you had some time with them and maybe it will come back again....
@martin.krencey
2 жыл бұрын
Dear Steve, may I kindly ask? Judging from memory, how would you compare these JBL HDI 1600 to KEF R3 please? Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
@larrywood1201
3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE JBL LOUD SPEAKERS IN THE OLD DAYS ALL WAS TESTING .THE BEST i HEARD IS THE ELTEC LANCING # 9 i GOT THESE AFTER BLOWING UP THE BOSE 901 COULD NOT GET IN USA I GOT THEM OVER SEAS.NEED TO CHECK THESE OUT.
@petes.2835
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, this might be a bit off topic, but have you ever done a series where people combine pro audio and home audio together and with what kind of results? If you did a series can you point me to the right one I scrolled through your catalog but couldn't find anything thanks again keep up the great work, Pete from Cleveland
@FMI_TheMixEngineEar
4 жыл бұрын
Love that AES shirt .
@tomthompson7400
4 жыл бұрын
No shortage of speakers in this size , spoiled for choice really .
@jarodreddig63
3 жыл бұрын
Ya it’s true.
@djchang678
3 жыл бұрын
Hi,Steve, I like your channel and musical taste, speaking of the JBL speaker, do you ever heard an company in Japan name Kendrick sound? They reform the old JBL speakers into fantastic speakers, do you have any suggestions about that? I’m totally fascinated to the open and lively sound they produced, can you comment on that ? Thank you so much 😁
@bryanr9576
3 жыл бұрын
Jon at Chane Cinema and Music has the new 700 series releasing, I have three of the 753 towers coming, there’s also a LCR one the 752 that uses an Italian compression driver and two 8” Scanspeak drivers, you should contact him to get a pair to review.
@woohunter1
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear Steve, just once, say “these speakers are crap.....”
@jeffadams9699
3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, it's hard to find a speaker that is just crap. I have found speakers that I don't like but for the most part, you have to go to HTIB gear to get garbage.
@GrandTrunkWestern85
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffadams9699 I agree plus the dude's been in the industry long enough to pick and choose which gear he's going to sign off on and do a review with. It's not like he's going to intentionally choose a crappy brand.
@MonroeYohey
3 жыл бұрын
Generally across the board speakers are very high quality these days. It is getting harder and harder to find a bad speaker. Even $50-100 a pair speakers sound very good for the price and just get better and better going higher and higher. Back in the 1980s or early 1990s there were plenty of bad cheap speakers to go around but that really isn’t the case anymore.
@dawolyan13
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffadams9699 HTIB?
@techocrazy
4 жыл бұрын
Are they better than Elac Debut reference/debut 2.0? If so I'll give a thought to buy one of these when I accumulate enough cash.
@kohnfutner9637
4 жыл бұрын
Are there any speakers in the game better than jbl and Klipsch? Especially in terms of price/value/pedigree. I lean Klipsch but jbl is awesome too.
@DBanitza
2 жыл бұрын
Wharfedale
@PeterPrism
4 жыл бұрын
Hy do you think is better this jbl or the kef ls50meta? I listen everthing from rock to acoustic ambient music. Thanks bro
@carlsitler9071
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the ONLY speaker to buy around $1500 is the KEF LS50 META. I'd prefer the Wireless 2 for $2500.
@adammosciszko1055
3 жыл бұрын
How do the JBL bookshelves compare to the Revels since they are both from the Harmon family
@summit1547
3 жыл бұрын
Oh man I m learning a lot Bert interesting jou feel the love for music thanks
@louislin9
4 жыл бұрын
Any experience with JBL Paragon before?
@onemeterpeter7137
4 жыл бұрын
You said you're usually listening to jazz.. have you heard of The L.A. 4? They did a cover of St Thomas by Sonny Rollins
@Modeltrainscarsstereos614
4 жыл бұрын
I see the cornwalls behind you glad you decided to keep them.
@5333092
4 жыл бұрын
Allow me to clarify on horns vs waveguides... a horn is a type of waveguide but a waveguide is not a horn :P
@stephenduffy1881
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, another great review, just happened to be watching the octopus video last night with the kids, spook coincidence. Have you tried Anthony and the Johnsons (eponymous album for a start) Keep it up! cheers Steve
@nunofernandes4501
4 жыл бұрын
Got it, the tweeter doesn't sound horny.
@rob_66
4 жыл бұрын
😆🤣😁😂
@HareDeLune
4 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@kloss213
4 жыл бұрын
Full front loaded horn systems can be placed with backs near touching walls and corners.
@petersouthernboy6327
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a FULL front loaded horn - only the HF
@chrisj9008
3 жыл бұрын
It's not the compression driver that's not super efficient, by designed compression drivers generally are. Rather that crossover dampens that horn to not outrun the smaller woofer. Jbl also does standard efficient testing to the standard. Klipsh and has does not by comparison factoring room gain and other things. Waveguides are tricky and take some engineering to work well. Jbl also still holds most of the patterns or something (or until recently) and many companies for a variety of those reasons stayed away.
@dfurey9446
4 жыл бұрын
When you say listened at 95db, are you referring to 95bd at a meter? Or 95 dB at a distance?
@robertwilson8876
4 жыл бұрын
Steve thanks for turning me on to Holly Cole. She's pretty amazing.
@RasheedKhan-he6xx
4 жыл бұрын
I can't figure out the case for these speakers. Is it dynamic headroom? Is that the USP?
@danedewaard8215
4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why "if you want to hear the rumble, you'll have to add a sub-woofer"?????!!!! WHAT??? That means the bass response below 50 Hz is poor! My Dynaco A25s don't need any extras to get very smoothly down to 30 Hz and the cabinet size is not that big. Why can't they make modern speakers with 10" woofers that can produce a reasonably flat response from 30 Hz to 15 KHz for an affordable price???? I realize the Dynacos would cost about $600 each today (with inflation) but at least they produce incredibly smooth, deep bass well below 50 Hz and require no extras to get there.
@heywoodjablome5630
4 жыл бұрын
Your comments do not show that you have tried subwoofers with those Dynacos, nor disprove that they would sound better with them. Please try and report here.
@danedewaard8215
4 жыл бұрын
Your words are true, but to my ears, the Dynaco A25s don't need any help in the low end.
@heywoodjablome5630
4 жыл бұрын
@@danedewaard8215 your ears are the ones that matter.
@danedewaard8215
4 жыл бұрын
The Dynaco A25s are not that big and are classified as bookshelf speakers. I guess we are headed toward Bose 901 clones! So sad!
@heywoodjablome5630
4 жыл бұрын
@@danedewaard8215 an acquaintance has Totem Arrow speakers. They have little dog syndrome and value for money.
@erho8607
4 жыл бұрын
Steve, "3 1/2 feet away from the bookcase behind me" - measured from front or back of the JBLs?
@ttrrs_o3498
4 жыл бұрын
Hi from Chicago/had a friend-sound engineer who never liked JBLs tweeters-maybe solved?
@wfranklin990
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing this, Steve. I've been considering the 3600 to replace the JBL 215 stage monitors that I'm currently using for LR in my home theater system (and two JBL 212 monitors for center channel, and JBL 225 for combined rear channel). Still waiting for a serious audiophile review of that floor stander (not one that is purely a PR puff piece).
@johnholmes912
3 жыл бұрын
i have an old set of marantz speakers designed by ed may (ex-jbl ), they have waveguide tweeters.., 88db sensitivity........they sound really much better than their specs
@dan_hitchman007
3 жыл бұрын
JBL, once again, doesn't stick the landing with the HDI series (seems to be their U.S. followup to the popular Studio 5's - which has the same issues as I will mention - as they have not brought the Studio 6's to these shores). They don't have a matching overhead or wall mount surround speaker to round out the model line for Dolby Atmos or DTS: X sound systems. They even failed to put a mounting bracket attachment point on the 1600, so you could use it as an on-wall surround! At the last in-person CEDIA in Denver, I brought these issues up at the JBL booth and they pointed me toward using their high end Synthesis in-wall's/in-ceiling's. Yeah, I'm going to spend two to three times the amount for surrounds than the front mains! Not in this lifetime.
@milesdufourny4813
4 жыл бұрын
Is that a Totem "beak" on top of your Klipsch?
@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
4 жыл бұрын
You're dang right it is! haha.
@gimmenames9039
4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm - this looks like a passive version of the JBL306s. Great studio monitors for a killer price - about a third of what the 1600s go for. They are not as pretty but sound and measure excellent. Got em at home and couldn't be happier.
@gimmenames9039
4 жыл бұрын
...well make that one sixth of the price of the 1600s.
@dan_hitchman007
4 жыл бұрын
It looks like they're using a dome tweeter on the 306's. The HDI is using a compression tweeter. It's not the same speaker.
@gimmenames9039
4 жыл бұрын
@@dan_hitchman007 cool, thx for the info!
@JonKron
4 жыл бұрын
A couple of comments, (1) seems like JBL (Harmon) would be better served w/another brand at this price point, (2) really crowded in this price point with great offerings and would be much inclined to go w/the Meta or GoldenEar BRX.
@petersouthernboy6327
4 жыл бұрын
Not with compression drivers
@petersouthernboy6327
4 жыл бұрын
You realize that “Meta” is just a little anechoic disc glued on the rear panel? You can find all kinds of used LS-50’s btw. Everywhere. Used LS-50’s.
@ELECTECHNUT
4 жыл бұрын
$900? Needs expensive amplifiers? Needs distance from walls? PAAAAASSSS!
@Jeton6
4 жыл бұрын
gonna have to check that movie later this afternoon. thanks for the tip! glub-blub! blerrrbb!
@Jeton6
4 жыл бұрын
"My Octopus Teacher" on Netflix
@Jeton6
4 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC film! thanks, Steve!
@itsmorphed6416
4 жыл бұрын
Look good those jbl. I am a fan of jbl sound in bluetooth speakers and club speakers but not heard hi fi ones .
@keeferdog5617
4 жыл бұрын
Sure hope the “claw” is helping that Cornwall behind you....
@richm4402
4 жыл бұрын
It's actually a 'Beak'
@heywoodjablome5630
4 жыл бұрын
Not the craw. The CRAW!
@bornces
4 жыл бұрын
What's the aluminum looking cone on top of the Cornwall behind you? A Tweak?
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
4 жыл бұрын
It came from Totem Acoustic, yes a tweak. Not sure it does anything, but it looks cool.
@tubukonxumalo8041
4 жыл бұрын
Who wins between them and the Bowers & Wilkins 702 S2, I wonder😁
@BrogeKilrain
3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t u do video about some of the famous classic great speakers of the past and how they compare today ?
@matthewtodd3879
4 жыл бұрын
Do you think the beak makes any difference
@kirkaparty4143
4 жыл бұрын
Is this the same as the new JBL Studio 620 (6 series to replace 530) that is being sold in Asia?
@dan_hitchman007
4 жыл бұрын
No. The Studio 6 series seems to use the same somewhat lesser drivers as the Studio 5 series, but in the same or similar cabinet to the HDI line.
@roberthyde7102
4 жыл бұрын
Okay where do you get those speaker cables from.
@mrboat580
3 жыл бұрын
Not many bookshelf, or stand mount speakers in the 6" range, are going to have high sensitivity, regardless of horns.
@yourdiytechlife
4 жыл бұрын
At first I was confused but then I figured it out. You wore a black shirt😂. At any rate. Great review as usual. 👍
@hagbard72
4 жыл бұрын
How do your neighbours feel when you "play it loud"?
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