Thank you for your honesty with us and the colt. The best horsemen all make mistakes and learn from them. Seems like you have a good head for seeing where you need to grow. Never get so full of yourself that you think you have no more to learn and remember, they can feel your stress, breathe stay chill no matter what
@sassduffin4274
3 ай бұрын
Well done MT......love your honesty ❤
@vaporosoez
2 ай бұрын
Here is the thing about trainers- a lot of what we learn in our journey, we learn from mistakes. I like your humbleness. The mistakes is why we learn to recognize super subtle body language- whether it is what we see or what we feel. The key is being humble enough to be willing to reflect and make adjustments. I like the thoughts you share! 1 body to last you a lifetime. Thanks for sharing the bumpy ride so that others can see, it isnt always perfect.
@dannonya8783
2 ай бұрын
heck yeah brother. Love the post. Just like 90% of the people on face book They only post good stuff about their lives Accomplishments. Way to show some honesty Young man Keep up the good work
@kellywalker3299
2 ай бұрын
You live and learn with horses. I love you stayed with him so amazingly and ended with him excepting you on him. Yay !
@becky-jodrummond3426
3 ай бұрын
I have a dummy. Made from a shirt and pants stuffed with rags. It is floppy. I tie it on for the first ride.. It will not fall off in a buck. They get used to seeing something on their back with me keeping them calm and giving them reassurance, and continued ground work. It is safer for me, with less panic for the horse.. Thankyou for your video.
@sassduffin4274
3 ай бұрын
Hey Becky, l am totally with you on what you say 🙏💐💖 I am backing my four and a half year old, nice and steady with plenty of good feeling. I am also rehabilitating another horse who, by her behavior, has had a not so nice a time, her feeling is offense. So l too shall make her a dummy and help her out that way. ❤
@joanadams9106
2 ай бұрын
That is absolutely the stupidest thing you can do to a horse, tie on a dummy, proves you are the dummy
@MarkMahnken
2 ай бұрын
I've tried the dummy deal extensively and if they are going to buck they are going to buck with or without a dummy.
@joanadams9106
2 ай бұрын
Really really stupid idea to tie a dummy on a horse, it tells me that you really do not know horses. Stay away!!!
@joanadams9106
2 ай бұрын
@@sassduffin4274 Stop Stop do not - you guys make me sick, you do not know horse nature or timing or anything, do not us a dummy, use a really good trainer. stop
@jessie.9373
3 ай бұрын
Way to stick in the saddle! Nice clean step off at the end too.
@TheHare-rv3hj
3 ай бұрын
Words of wisdom from 50 years of horsemanship, not all my wisdom, but wisdom I've learned from others: - In my opinion, there's more value learned in mistakes than successes. At least you're honest. - You were impatient and moved way too quick. - Tom Dorrance and Ray Hunt always used to say, "Take your horse to the EDGE of trouble, but not INTO trouble". You took him into trouble even when you were flagging him. - Ray Hunt always used to say in the colt starting classes that you need to have your homework done before you get on. I didn't see you teach the pieces for the one-rein stop. That's part of the home work. - "We need to train another day and you are too precious to get hurt". You put yourself at risk with both of those mounts. The horse wasn't ready yet in several regards and you didn't have him bent around when you mounted. You needed to do a lot more false mounts, jumping, slapping saddle, placing pressure in stirrup and backing out, and moving of stirrups before you got on. You should have aborted those mounts and started over. You could have gotten your head kicked. - Watch Ray Hunt's colt starting videos as well as Joe Wolter. There are some on KZitem of both. Watch the details, the details, the details. - You weren't listening to what that horse was telling you. He gave you a lot of feed back and you blew off his needs. And then you got huffy about it. You don't have permission to do that...EVER. You don't get that luxury. It's not about you. You're the one invading his world and are asking him to do this. He's not an object. He's loaded with feelings. Ray Hunt used to say to us, "How would you want someone to teach you?" - You never once rub on the horse to encourage him and keep him with you. You present yourself more as a predator than a herd mate and an ally who has something to offer him, such as protection. - Maybe consider letting go of this "pride" issue. Pride is a manifestation of the ego and gets you in massive trouble. Look at it all objectively. There is nothing he did to be proud of or ashamed of. He responded based on your presentation of the material and does what a horse does. It's neither here no there that he blew up. He didn't want to blow up. You have to get into his skin...his reality...and figure out how to help him through it better. No pride but endless patience. Tom Dorrance was about endless patience. You still have to set boundaries, but endless patience. - You said that you felt an obligation to get this horse started because you had to take him back and you didn't want to do it without getting a ride on him. You went into it with a rushed state of mind. No horse, no owner is worth putting yourself up in a wheelchair for life. If the owner is in a big hurry for you to turn a horse around, then fire the owner. I learned that from Lynn Palm. And I made that mistake and got myself in my first and only big wreck after my first 25 years. Believe me, the owner was selfish and not worth the injury I incurred. - You say at the beginning that you want the horse to trust you. Look at the video again...closely. I see you wanting to use the flag to get the horse to trust you. You're unplugged from the horse. Then you talk about what you feel good about. Nobody cares what you feel good about. It's irrelevant. What does the horse feel good about? He's still braced and suspicious. He still didn't feel good about it but you chose to ignore his perspective and move on. Your homework was not done well. - Ray Hunt used to sign autographs. It didn't matter who it was or how many clinics a person attended, he signed his autograph with the same tag line everytime..."Think!" - Ray Hunt Keep going. You're on the brink of something much better.
@MThorses592
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment, it made me think.
@woodfinn
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reply. I too have over 50 years of experience and agree with many of your comments.
@operationNOBO
2 ай бұрын
You know theres more to this stuff than just referencing Hunt or the Dorrances. People rely way too much on them...be your own person.
@woodfinn
2 ай бұрын
@@operationNOBO I agree to a point. I think many new folks who see themselves as a ‘ trainer’, reading and Understanding what those fellows wrote about is very important. I agree with the original post in that the MT guy was in a hurry and made mistakes that a real experienced person wouldn’t have. I’ve started horses many times and had some bad ones. If one is going to make a better horse, one should be slowing down and making sure that there are no holes open.
@operationNOBO
2 ай бұрын
@woodfinn Sure. But he isnt old. He's young, it all takes time.
@iericseal252
2 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work you're doing alright😊
@jmcrunch32
Ай бұрын
Ur a hell of a Hand there bud!! Keep it up, miss breaking colts! Sometimes lol
@shawny57
2 ай бұрын
Good job!!
@MarkMahnken
2 ай бұрын
You can increase your chances of getting on without a hitch if you will position your horse on a 70 deg. angle pointed left and up close to the fence with your left rein getting his left eye. Grab a night latch on the way up and find that right stirrup fast. It's a similar position as what you dismounted from. That way you know he's going to hang a left and it gets you an extra 1.5 seconds to get in the saddle. Sketchy first and second try but you made it. Good job. Fun to watch I've been there.
@operationNOBO
2 ай бұрын
my god all these armchair commenters. For a first ride this went just fine. Good work.
@MarkMahnken
2 ай бұрын
I assume you were in the saddle while making this comment.
@kjam360
2 ай бұрын
For him to have someone on his back for his first time went very very well. Job well done!
@user-hv3fo5fh4o
2 ай бұрын
Good job. Of course it wasn't perfect but you definitely have the attitude to keep learning. No doubt in my mind you'll just get better. I enjoyed watching it. Thanks.
@MThorses592
2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@mariannekaminski5795
2 ай бұрын
Like your comments regarding her care
@doctorfamilyadventures9423
3 ай бұрын
I think u did a good job
@otomshiloh4467
2 ай бұрын
Trainer for Stone Pony Ranch.......great job..lots to b proud of
@HVTMuddvain
2 ай бұрын
Yep just looks like you were rushing to me but sometimes we only have so much time to work our horses unfortunately esp if they arnt on your own property
@user-pt2tx6lg7i
2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@nohillforahighstepper
Ай бұрын
I think you're being a little too hard on yourself. Sure you didn't get the initial reaction you were hoping for but you helped the horse work through it. We've all made mistakes. The key is staying with it and helping the horse get through it. I would rather have a horse that trusts that I will work with it than one that has never been through any trouble during training...which seldom occurs anyway. This horse is pretty reactive though and might need you to slow your roll just a bit. Happy trails... 😊😊😊
@drummerboy2007
2 ай бұрын
Don’t grab the cantle getting on grab the horn and you won’t get behind👍🏻
@robertbachelor6993
2 ай бұрын
Not ready to be rode,,watchy is because of you.why the catch rope?could cause you problems.
@dannonya8783
2 ай бұрын
Catch rope. Lol that's his Handel Sr.
@bradwolfe2993
3 ай бұрын
this horse has serious trust issues that should be overcome for the horses confidence and well-being first. otherwise, yours is a matter of his opportunity to avenge. and he will.
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