The good thing about the Garwin chrono is it finally stopped people from telling us we needed a Lab Radar.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
😂
@billsiegloff2150
4 күн бұрын
The question is will it read through the powder smoke
@lukejeffery2513
4 күн бұрын
The sound difference between the two is amazing, its an auditory experience as well as a joy to watch.
@tjh44961
4 күн бұрын
I have a full length 1873 rifle that really likes those loads. I bought it sometime between 1987 and 89 for $225, and it wouldn't chamber a round. A friend of mine stuck a cleaning rod with a bronze brush down the barrel from the muzzle into the chamber and chucked it in a drill. We ran it for a few seconds at low RPM, and it came out into the chamber with the top half of a copper case on it. I've never bothered looking up when the last time the military rounds had copper cases, but it's a sure thing that it hadn't been fired in 75 years or more. I have fired some of the full-power 45-70-500 military equivalent loads in it, and they are brutal. Since it likes the 45-55-405 loads, I'll stick with them!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Wow! That’s a great story. That copper case had been in there for a long time
@cameronnerdin4910
3 күн бұрын
In one of my units our armament guy thought he had a bad batch of new barrels. They did an upgrade on our M4"s, 5 of the barrels stopped chambering rounds. He put them aside, thinking their was a problem with them. Well same problem, the cartridges failed at the shoulder and left them in the barrel, next round would not chamber and the weapon jammed. Good catch on that barrel.
@Byron-gm2ln
4 күн бұрын
Thanks, in part to you, I bought, finished & assembled a Kibler SMR. I could not have been happier with this this rifle. Super accurate & a joy to shoot. When I go to the range with this thing, it gathers a crowd. Fortunately, I have a bunch of other places to shoot. So, thank you for all the videos you post on You-Tube.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you. I’m glad to hear it!
@Sman7290
4 күн бұрын
The thought that the hollow base bullet expanding into the rifling and sealing better can pick up 175 ft/second over the same weight traditional flat base bullet with exactly the same powder and charge weight is amazing.
@murphy4yt
4 күн бұрын
Great video. I’ve wanted one of those forever, too. They were out of my price range when they were $700, and since they have gones o far up,in price and I’m 78, now, I doubt I will ever get one. Keep up the good work!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@Almost_Made_It
4 күн бұрын
You can’t take it with you. Buy and enjoy and leave to your family.
@scottsammons7747
4 күн бұрын
They were half the price, but I had a quarter of the discretion funds.
@1boortzfan
3 күн бұрын
Thanks Jake. This one didn't suck either, in fact none of your videos ever have.Congratulations on the new Trapdoor, it looks sweet. I watched a video earlier where a guy was shooting a .45-70 contender with a 300 grain bullet and he was only getting 1250 out of it so you're doing pretty good. Carry on.
@lutherpayne9957
4 күн бұрын
I laughed at folk back in 85', 1985 that is when they proclaimed the .45-70 was dead and obsolete. The guy had a trapdoor and was thinking about selling it and stupid me said, "Just hang on to it. 45-70 might have a resurgence and you will be sitting pretty." I should have said, your right, I'll take that old gun off your hands for a couple hundred bucks. Then you can go buy that hunting rifle you have been wanting. Wow. The ignorance of youth. Looks like you got yourself a good shooter. Cheers!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@davisrs1
4 күн бұрын
Love the Trapdoor! My grandfather had one, my late cousin kept it! Modern powder coating is a polymer coating that only helps with velocity once you get to a high enough velocity to melt the plastic. The powder coating I used to use was moly disulfide, which is a lubricant even in space!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Interesting
@marktroiani5401
4 күн бұрын
That rifle looks like a blast to shoot. I bet it’s a tack driver with the right loading.
@karsonbranham3900
4 күн бұрын
Well done indeed! Never ceases to amaze how consistent BP or even the duplex loadings are over smokeless loads alone.
@jusportel
Күн бұрын
You stand the ladder up, when shooting at short ranges. The 100 yard position is at the very bottom. With the ladder down, the battle sight is set for a belt buckle hold, something like 360 yards or something like that.
@jlpjlp1953
4 күн бұрын
That carbine is a beauty! Those old rifles really shine with black powder. Light smokeless loads don't really satisfy or do very well. Years ago I sold off my old trapdoor for something silly like rent money. Why didn't I just sleep in my car?!
@cameronnerdin4910
3 күн бұрын
Oh shit!
@jeffcassell445
4 күн бұрын
I owned an Officer's Model carbine back in the late '70s. Fine gun, great for close hunting.
@jacobmarley4907
4 күн бұрын
Nice find! I have same one. I use BP equivalent loads with IMR 4198. The Lee 350 grain (supposed to be 340 grain, but actually weighs out at 350) cast bullet is a great deer load. I think your brother? is right about the powder coating. I have an old dbl barrel coach gun that hates plastic shot cups. The plastic leaves a residue inside the barrel. I have read somewhere that old shotguns don't shoot ammo with plastic shotcups very well. The author recommended using cork wads instead.
@franzputsch254
3 күн бұрын
I was at a gun show in 1984 and there was a beautiful Trapdoor Springfield 45-70 for sale. I could not afford it, so I bought a ..... 577 Snider rifle for $200. Those were the days!
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
Well at least you bought a Snider
@johnnottahcal5725
3 күн бұрын
Don’t have an original but a H&R carbine. I spent pounds of powder trying to get a different cast bullets to fly right but when I switched to a Lyman 405g..she has given me some of my most thrilling memories. Who knew with carbine (pistol like sights on H&R) I could blow smoke rings in the quiet of the morning and punch groups at 300 yards! 😊 Just love the mechanicals of the Trapdoor! ❤
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
I’m hear those H&R’s are very nice rifles.
@johnnottahcal5725
3 күн бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder Maybe so but an original would be way cooler! ❤️👍
@chuckventers2273
4 күн бұрын
I’ve really gotten into the antique muzzleloading propellent stuff since I’ve started watching you guys excellent content
@lukejeffery2513
4 күн бұрын
I find that they're very informative, it has taken my slight obsession with muzzle loaders and made it more of a need to have in my life.
@jtcustomknives
4 күн бұрын
I love the trap door. From a simple easy design. Wish it was a tad stronger but for that I use my browning high-wall.
@jorgenkarlsson9725
4 күн бұрын
Nice one, just love the old single shots.
@the_great_tigorian_channel
4 күн бұрын
I NEED ONE OF THOSE! I really love carbines and the trapdoor Springfield is one of my favorite historical firearms. They are basically becoming impossible to get.
@taylorharbin3948
4 күн бұрын
Does nobody make a replica?
@the_great_tigorian_channel
4 күн бұрын
@@taylorharbin3948possibly, but none to my knowledge. I figured Pietta or one of those Italian outfits might but I haven't seen anything that wasn't a muzzleloader.
@gotsloco1810
4 күн бұрын
@@taylorharbin3948 Pedersoli
@the_great_tigorian_channel
4 күн бұрын
@@gotsloco1810pedersoli does? I could have sworn I checked there... maybe I didn't search well enough. Thanks!
@jtcustomknives
4 күн бұрын
What’s crazy is the trap door was a design that modified muzzleloaders into cartage rifles. It was a dirt cheep conversion for the military and now thy are crazy expensive and top tier lol.
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine
4 күн бұрын
That was the plan, and a lot of them were made that way, but they ended up also making brand new Trapdoor rifles.
@wyatesbob
4 күн бұрын
Hope you had a wonderful 4th. Thanks for the video great job again
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
@@wyatesbob thank you
@spoplehughes
4 күн бұрын
I would love to see you and the cap and ball channel having a chat
@HMA_0506
4 күн бұрын
Let's go!! He's back! Good video!
@edbetsworth2772
4 күн бұрын
Great video! Thank you for sharing it!
@LemonPie1994
3 күн бұрын
I just picked up an 1884 infantry rifle two weeks ago. Going to be making some of those Lee bullets today. Interesting timing..
@Gats_of_the_past
4 күн бұрын
Your collection makes me so happy😊
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Me too!
@ryanzanow8221
4 күн бұрын
Great video as always, man!
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
Thank you
@daveyjoweaver6282
3 күн бұрын
A Very Lovely Rifle Jake! I did enjoy seeing you shoot that beauty! Congrats on finally getting a long time wanted rifle!I certainly would hate to be one of your targets! That Baby packs a punch! Kind Thanks to you Fellers and I’m glad you made this damn video! Nice music too! Happy July, Kind Thanks, Many Blessings and Plum Good Shootin! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
@@daveyjoweaver6282 thank you very much. Same to you
@slow3007
17 сағат бұрын
balsa and dried tobacco stalks work the same .both are a very light wood .i will send you some when my tobacco matures .
@josephcormier5974
4 күн бұрын
Thank you gentlemen for sharing this fine video with us six stars
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@ddhh6552
4 күн бұрын
That slow motion was super cool. I have seen the glint off a flying bullet before and had no one believe me. I found that if the sun was behind me i could see it much easier. Super cool gun btw.
@dalefrench8183
3 күн бұрын
Most american military rifles of Civil War & Indian wars were sighted in high from factory because military training taught soldiers to aim at brass belt buckle. Basically, you were able to hit at more ranges
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
Yep
@johnsmith-gk4td
4 күн бұрын
OMG! Somebody is using an 1884 assault rifle.....just kidding, awesome video.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
😂
@richarddean3154
4 күн бұрын
Congratulations on finding that old carbine and thank you for sharing your experience with it.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
You bet
@MemorialRifleRange
4 күн бұрын
Thank-You..... Fantastic Rifle
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@millcreekrange
3 күн бұрын
Great Video Jake. Nice Carbine too. I’d love to have a carbine to go along with my full size Trapdoor. I hope to get it back out soon, but right now I’m down for the count with my back. Hit me on the 4th. Getting Old Sucks!!
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
Howdy Benjy! I was down for the count with a kidney stone that went south. That set me back a couple weeks. I hope your back gets better soon
@millcreekrange
3 күн бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder Thank You Man. Never had a stone before, but I’ve heard they’re bad. I’ll be calling the surgeon Monday morning, as I’ve already had 3 spinal blocks and they last about 2-3 months and then the pain comes back 10 fold. This one has been the worst. But I shall bounce back soon. Not gonna stay down. 👍
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
Best of luck to you.
@painmt651
4 күн бұрын
I’ll be 60 in a few months, and I’ve always wanted one of those trap door guns, but I don’t think I will ever be able to afford one now. Well, I could afford one, but I would probably have to sell a couple of my favorites to do it.
@blueduck9409
2 күн бұрын
The springfield is a great rifle. I like the sharps cavalry carbine better tho. It has a stronger action. The springfield has excellent ejection. According to the government records, the carbine load was 55 grains of powder, with a wad, and a 405 grain hollow base bullet. The infantry load was 500 grain bullet with about 68 grains of powder. I like the cavalry load much better.
@recoilrob324
4 күн бұрын
Troopers armed with Trapdoors were 'adequately' armed for sure!!! That is until the copper cases started sticking due to the fouling and needing a sturdy knife to pry them out of the chamber. Modern drawn brass is SO much more reliable....and the 45-70 SMACKS with authority! The powder coated bullets being slower might be from the cushion of the felt wad which could be lessening the obturation of the base. In my 577-450 MH ammo I use that same Lee bullet unsized with the base filled with lube on top of a lube 'cookie' between cards and they work OK. The Holy Black is such wonderful stuff!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
I would love to get a Martini-henri but they have gotten expensive too!
@StevenSmith-pt8rz
3 күн бұрын
Custer’s troops at that Little Big Horn might disagree with you on that. The Indians had Henry’s,66 yellow boys,and I think Winchesters.
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
Unless Custer and his men were armed with m60 machine guns I think the battle would have turned out the same way
@recoilrob324
2 күн бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder Lessons were learned that day...but sadly not by Custer or his men. Never attack a force of greatly superior numbers unless you have weapons that can offset the disparity of numbers. Custer's men were out-gunned by repeating weapons but many fell to the good old 'bow and arrow' too. Their hubris led them to believe the Indians would turn and run...but instead they turned and fought....and I have to say good for them. Custer was an ass.
@snappers_antique_firearms
4 күн бұрын
That trapdoor is a beauty jake.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thanks snapper
@A.R.American1
4 күн бұрын
Thats a cool rifle thinking i need one of those trap door carbines someday
@dhooter
4 күн бұрын
Bad ass rifle. On my wish list for sure 👍
@Gunner40Five
4 күн бұрын
Nice job guys!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@joshualund4876
4 күн бұрын
My uncle has a trapdoor rifle, I believe he used it when he did 7th Calvary reenactments/parades I might have to ask him about it
@raymondhorvatin1050
4 күн бұрын
Another great video thanks for sharing
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@stevenblackstone2501
3 күн бұрын
Powder coated bullets don't carry lube in the groves . With black powder the bullet collapses the grove , because it needs the lube to support the bullet . Powder coat will go down the barrel but the bullet is completely deformed .
@Tammy-un3ql
4 күн бұрын
Great video.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@user-up5wb3yq3w
4 күн бұрын
Great as always and as always please give a tutorial on your post shoot cleaning process 🙏
@thetruthseeker5549
2 күн бұрын
AAHHHH I have always loved the .45 government rifles and carbines, Thank You for a great vid! If anyone hasn't pointed it out yet, the 1884 Sight I think is zero at 200 yards, this may help account for Your high shots. Also, You'r indicated velocities are a bit high, an 1877 Army document states 1100 FPS min to 1150 fps max. Maybe that also has a hand in the shot placement in this video?
@billbearback2591
7 сағат бұрын
another great presentation , in oz all i can get is powder coated 44 lead , i personally think its abrasive , a bit like lead coated with hard lapping compound i'm not shooting excessive amounts but i'm not too keen on how clean it leaves my bore , it looks like when you use some copper lead projectiles to clean up an old bore but copper is lubracative , so i'd say powder coated is abrasive , cheers big ears
@ratscoot
4 күн бұрын
I've got the Pedesoli trapdoor officer replica. With 2F and that Lee 405 lead hb bullet, no wads, i got 5 shot cloverleaf groups at 50m.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Excellent
@jacobmarley4907
3 күн бұрын
BTW great video! It seems that firearms manufactured for black powder usually perform best with black powder. Really enjoy your videos because we have the same taste in firearms.
@Everythingblackpowder
3 күн бұрын
Thank you. I agree
@hawknives
4 күн бұрын
Great Show, as usual! Thank you for mentioning my name in the video. Lol!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
lol
@rastaman1527
Сағат бұрын
Hey Jake! I think I have another myth for you to try out. As you propably heard it somwhere in the past "the petrolium based products shouldn't be used with BP". But i really doubt that for some reason. For example I think that a lithium grease (which a lot of us use for locks and actions of our guns) would be very good for minie balls due to its lubing effectivness and resistance to temperature. please try it out on video and show the world how stupid I am right now OR how right this theory might be. PS. love your videos, keep them coming :)
@wagon9082
4 күн бұрын
Good video
@jason60chev
4 күн бұрын
Looking at acquiring a trapdoor carbine. Already have an 1884 rifle. Good video, as usual.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@sorshiaemms5959
Күн бұрын
beautiful gun
@timroot4207
4 күн бұрын
Thank you !
@robertrobert7924
4 күн бұрын
A dearly departed friend gave me a trapdoor hunting carbine cut down from a long rifle by a gunsmith that his grandfather had made for him to hunt deer. Since it had been butchered and had no historical value, I decorated it with brass tacks to look like an Indian owned gun. I load 45-70 cases with 27 grains of #4198, corn grits filler, and the same Lee bullet as you do. I also shoot the same load in my Pedersoli RRB Buffalo heavy barrel rifle. I make my own lube for these bullets.
@Mis-AdventureCH
4 күн бұрын
Indeed. Tack work on altered trapdoors is a cool look. Did same to a used Uberti '66 Win I picked up. gets plenty of Ohh-Ahhs at the range.
@matthewkardys6514
4 күн бұрын
My favorite cowboy Gun.☝️ Big Love From Mt Rush Virginia Jesus Saves.🔥
@jeremyp2295
4 күн бұрын
Personally I think that the 45-70 is a great cartridge for someone just starting out in the black powder cartridge. It is very forgiving and if you take care of your brass it will last for way longer than smokeless just because you aren't working it as much. I wouldn't have thought the powder coating would have slowed it down that much. I can't remember if that model of carbine was 300 yard zero or 500 but I'm sure 11bangbang would know in a flash. As usual you guys make everything bitchin
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you. It’s 300 yard
@jermedic
4 күн бұрын
Great video! That's the first time I've heard about that 405 hollow base mold. May need to pick one up. I don't have much knowledge about the carbine loading, but I do load for my Trapdoor rifle made in 1891 which has a slightly oversized bore. I get the best consistency with a 500gr bullet cast out of 40:1 lead. I use 20:1 in my other BP firearms, but with the heavy bullet and soft alloy I think it gives just enough time for the base of the bullet to bump up to fill the rifling. It also gives me a consistent 40-50fps velocity increase over harder bullets, probably due to a better sealing of the bullet in the barrel. My rife has the Buffington rear sights which were meant to be zeroed around 250ish yards and shoots about as high as yours does. Congrats on the new carbine!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you very much! These bullets were 30-1 and worked pretty well. That’s what I use for my 50-70 bullets too. As for the 300 yard zero that’s nothing a taller front sight won’t fix
@bigracer3867
4 күн бұрын
Oooooohhhaaaaa! Where did you find that beautiful piece of shooting iron!??🤩
@billsiegloff2150
4 күн бұрын
Just a heads up with powder coated projectiles. When loading them for pistols i go to a faster powder as the coating is a lot slicker so creates a lot less back pressure. I think that will cause your black powder to have more trouble burning.
@user-yn3lk4xf2c
4 күн бұрын
Acquired one a few months back. The tang site it came with are not great. No graduation marks, and by the time you put the site up, fare enough to see over the back of the rifle, it shoots about 18ins high at 50yrd.
@JoZf_Gibson
4 күн бұрын
Merci
@dylanvisitacion8618
4 күн бұрын
Very nice 👍
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you 👍
@johnndavis7647
4 күн бұрын
Always worthy of a like and a comment for the Algoreythmn
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@vicroc4
3 күн бұрын
Generally, powder coating is best for situations where a jacketed bullet is preferred - high pressure smokeless loads. IIRC it originally came about as a way to prevent leading in magnum smokeless pistol rounds, and it even enables loading cast bullets at pressures that will cycle an AR in .223 Remington. I'm not sure it really gives any advantage in black powder, and in fact I suspect it's kind of pointless. Especially since you need the lube to keep the fouling soft, and the only other argument for powder coating is that it prevents you from having to use messy lube on smokeless cast rounds.
@johngallagher2313
4 күн бұрын
I make and use powder coated bullets but can honestly say I am not a fan boy for them. They work to control leading at high velocities somewhat and that is about the best recommendation I can give them. They are not 100 percent cure for leading no matter what you may hear. I have also experienced the same from commercial coated so it just is not my bullets. I like the carbine. interesting rifle.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Interesting, thank you
@samuelkoger5136
4 күн бұрын
Try 13 grs of Unique, I have had great luck with this same 405 gr HB bullet in a nearly exact same carbine you are shooting. Mine has had a new front sight dovetailed in it, milled out of steel with a blank blade that puts it right on target at 100 yd. Keep up the great videos.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Excellent. Thank you
@minigpracing3068
3 күн бұрын
The only reason that the PC rounds should be going slower is if they were larger in size. When I size them the same, I get a 20 to 30 fps increase with PC in my airguns. I haven't tried PC without lube in a black powder rifle yet, and probably won't because I want the fouling to get softened from the lube. The only other difference between the loading was the wads under the bullets, and that really shouldn't make much difference. For the airguns, the PC is a very good lube, but you really need to size them before shooting. The pressure behind them is so low that even a few thousandths big will be a problem that needs a cleaning rod and a hammer to fix. Maximum that I have is around 2300 psi "chamber" pressure in .357 or .510.
@rjoetting7594
4 күн бұрын
I've wanted a trapdoor carbine for many years, and I have found them, but my wallet couldn't afford it. Hahaha I did find and buy a cut down rifle that was done very well, with a 24" barrel that I got for $400.00, but it's just not the same as an original. I personally wouldn't have altered the original, and the previous owner said that it was already altered when he purchased it. It shoots to the point of aim because of the taller front sight being a dovetail blade (looks a lot like a muzzleloader sight) brass and easy to see.
@charlesfritz7327
4 күн бұрын
Please try cottontail fluff charcoal in the future. It’s a great fire starter.
@mebymyself2816
4 күн бұрын
Ah a proper test as you are back in your dungarees Jake!! Thanks that was very interesting and informative until you tested I was wondering if the powder coating would impart more of a spin as it gripped the rifling lands which would have improved accuracy.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
We will do more testing with them
@samueldamewood5273
4 күн бұрын
Don't play with BP cartridges much but it's a good video. Thank you. Still not ready to make my own damned video yet.
@misiomor
3 күн бұрын
Getting close to the original .45-70 load is not easy. In the era they had thin bottom casings (not yet brass - they were made out of copper). This is why they managed to squeeze 70 grains of powder under a 405gn bullet. Thick bottom was introduced later, with the advent of smokeless powder and military rifle pressures around 60000psi. And it became standard, even in calibers like .45-70. Today if one wants to be close to the original .45-70 loads, the .45-90 provides enough case capacity. Yet reaming an antique rifle for it would be sacrilegious. The only way out of this is powder compression - Buffalo Firearms offer some powder compression plugs, working with neck expansion die bodies.
@robertstump4740
Күн бұрын
There were two loadings for the trapdoor. The 55gr load for the carbine is authentic. A common prank was to slip a new recruit the 70 gr rifle load during carbine practice.
@carlschmidt7522
4 күн бұрын
45-55-405 is exactly the carbine round, but you knew that. I like the hollow base bullets. They shoot well. An older friend back in the 1970's told me that with a rough bore I would get the best result with hard cast bullets. He said it was the opposite of usual wisdom. Nice carbine!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@Rubberweasel
4 күн бұрын
I use the Missouri bullets 245 grain hytec coated for my subsonic 300 blackout and they have been fantastic so far. Were the powder coated projectiles a hollow base like the Lee mold?
@Byron-gm2ln
4 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@steveshoemaker6347
4 күн бұрын
That is a big round going down range......Thanks Guy's..... Old nasty Shoe🇺🇸
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thank you
@usnchief1339
4 күн бұрын
It's normal for these to shoot high. The troopers would aim around the waist to hit a human target. My clone shoots the same way. Excellent video...thanks!
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Nothing a taller front sight can’t fix
@usnchief1339
4 күн бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder Very true...about 1/4" taller
@hazcat640
4 күн бұрын
EBP, 1st: NICE gun! 2nd: Fun vid 3rd: Just a thought on the Chrono. It seems that when you are a bit faster between shots is when you have dupes. Maybe if you let the smoke clear a little more it will read better? Just a thought.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
It’s very possible
@willam1992
4 күн бұрын
love it dam sahme they cost so friggin much
@Schlachtschule
4 күн бұрын
That looks like a beautiful piece, Jake, well done! Man, I don't know how you got that muzzle velocity. I am trying to *exactly* replicate the .45-70-500 cartridges which were used with the 1884 rifle (not carbine, which still used the 405-grain bullet, as you know). I use true Round Nosed 500-grain bullets from a Lyman mold over a card wad over 70 grains of Swiss 1.5F, and I only got an average of 1,220 fps instead of the 1,350 fps recorded by the Ordnance Dept. in period. Obviously, to cram that powder in, I had to use a compression die. I'm going to get some Swiss 2F to see if that will bump things up a bit. As for shooting high, remember that (surprisingly), the battlesight on the Buffington rear sight is zeroed for 200 yards (see the Ordnance Dept. report for 1885), not he 100 yards most other firearms, so that explains why it shoots so high at those ranges you were doing. By the way, keep your eyes open for "Historical Shooting with the Trapdoor Springfield," coming soon (like in a year or so).
@jermedic
4 күн бұрын
I bet the 2F gets you in the ballpark. With a compressed 2f load of 65gr and the same 500gr bullet I get into the mid 1300fps range. I am at a mile elevation so that may be a factor as well.
@Schlachtschule
4 күн бұрын
@@jermedic Captain Stanhope Blunt's 1889 Manual for the Trapdoor gives a detailed chart showing exactly how elevation affects MV, along with temperature, air pressure, humidity, and more, and you're right, being that high has a distinct effect. Blunt's book is, by far, the most advanced ballistic study produced in America up to that point. And yes, I really think the 2F might help; I hope I don't have to go to 3F, I just don't think rifle powder was that fine in period. I also think I can add a little more tin to the lead--my bullets are actually coming out of the mold at 514 grains instead of 500, so more tin should reduce the weight, which will increase MV. I know it's geeky, but this is the kind of stuff I love--I want to replicate original performance.
@jermedic
4 күн бұрын
@@Schlachtschule I'm right there with you. I like to geek out on this kind of stuff too and shoot things "the way they were." As much as I like my modern stuff, my old single shots, lever rifles and single action revolvers (and flintlocks) are my favorites to shoot.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Thanks Hugh. This cottonwood powder runs a solid 50 fps faster on average than the 3F Swiss we tested it against in my flintlock. Maybe running 2F instead of 1 or 1.5f is enough to make the difference. That, and my janky chronograph…
@Schlachtschule
4 күн бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder I have the same Chrono. A few months ago I did a shoot and it rated my .45 Colts between 300 fps and 3,000 fps. Touchy.
@gunrunner5095
4 күн бұрын
I've noticed with my powder coated bullets that in a gun that gets jacketed ammo it seems to be able to push powder coated lead faster without leading. I have a load with the Lee 180gr powder coated for 7.62x39 pushing 1850fps. With my lever action 357 that I shoot lead out of before I shoot powder coated lead it slows them down. It's like the lead in the bore is sticky with the powder coat... If I clean it well then the velocity goes back up to what I would expect from the lead bullet.
@vicroc4
3 күн бұрын
Powder coat isn't quite a jacket but you can get some remarkable velocity with it. Supposedly there's even a load that'll cycle an AR in .223 Remington, which to my knowledge is impossible with bare lead.
@terrygriffin3973
4 күн бұрын
When mailing your black powder from like a squeegee
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
🤷♂️
@ammoiscurrency5706
4 күн бұрын
Ask garmin for a brand deals
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Brand deals?
@ammoiscurrency5706
4 күн бұрын
@@Everythingblackpowder I'm getting over a nasty flu I meant reaching out to Garmin to review their product. You have a reasonably large channel. Yes, it's not massive but I've seen companies work with smaller channels. It's not like it's a bad or sketchy product so giving it a fair review would be easy. I've yet to see anybody use the Garmin with true smoky black powder. Might not be a bad idea to see if they'd be interested in sending a unit to review. Worst they'd probably say it no or not reply.
@jdouglas4564
4 күн бұрын
I have done some powder coating of bullets myself, and I had to resize them after powder coating because they got a couple thousands bigger that might be why they’re slowing down
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Interesting
@MrRmh3481
3 күн бұрын
Does Temperature effect Black Powder the way it boosts some smokeless powder? Thanks.
@derweibhai
3 күн бұрын
Powder coat reduces friction and thus pressure. Slower velocity.
@oliverisaacson918
4 күн бұрын
the hollow base would be helping the bullet expand faster into the rifling there by making better use of the expanding black powder gasses ?
@randomidiot8142
4 күн бұрын
It helps to reduce the fouling that happens when the super hot gas leaks past the shank and deposits melted lead in the bore. The temps involved in chamber pressure generation are mind boggling. The reason the bullet doesn't immediately melt is because the time period of high heat is so short.
@35southkiwi16
3 күн бұрын
Who cares what the trailboss did. meh. I use the stuff too but only for light hearted fun. what was really interesting to me was your catridge construction /wad layering. There's some stuff there im going to try. Thanks for that! Enjoy the new rifle 😁
@MichaelHayes-uj9od
4 күн бұрын
I was wanting a 1866 uberti till I found out they were 17 hundred now so now I have a rossi 92 in 45 colt for 680
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
Yeah. I bought my Uberti 1866 about 10 years ago and I paid 600 for it
@Crowbars357
4 күн бұрын
I have one that my great grandfather used for hunting
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
@@Crowbars357 excellent
@dougdukes1039
4 күн бұрын
I understand the card wad between powder and felt wad. But what are you trying the protect with the card wad between the felt wad and the bullet? Nice Video.
@Everythingblackpowder
4 күн бұрын
I’ve had had the lubed felt wad stick to the base of the bullet and cause flyers
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