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@BiggestDawgEver
11 ай бұрын
since you guys are so rigid in your release order, will you adhere to that and alternate with DS9 when they ran concurrently?
@WEB_78O
11 ай бұрын
@BiggestDawgEver that's their plan, yeh
@RandomNPC001
11 ай бұрын
Please keep in mind the setting (the in universe era they are living in at the time) Kirk had a role similar to Lewis and Clark so galactic laws agreements were still being made, Picard lives in a era were the Laws are already stablished and for the other Captains?!... Well we need to get there!! "It`s easy being a saint in paradise! Cap. XXXXXXX
@RandomNPC001
11 ай бұрын
People were enraged when this first came out, but they quickly came around once they experienced this AMAZING tv show.
@Dcs.234
11 ай бұрын
A bit of info on the actress that is Lt.Yar she is Denise Crosby and is Bing Crosby’s granddaughter
@timothyserabian5103
11 ай бұрын
I’m sure you’ve heard this already, but PLEASE don’t judge the entire series based on what’s coming in season 1. It gets SO much better over time!
@Daniel-Strain
11 ай бұрын
AGREED - the Third season onward, is where TNG REALLY comes into its own.
@HammerJammer81
11 ай бұрын
beat me to it! was coming here to say this. It gets SOOO much better
@AndrewLakeUK
11 ай бұрын
There are some in the first that are better than TOS, sure it gets better, but there's plenty to love.
@delphinazizumbo8674
11 ай бұрын
but.............TASHA YAR oh, my.
@AndrewLakeUK
11 ай бұрын
@@delphinazizumbo8674 🤫
@anthonybernacchi2732
11 ай бұрын
1. First, I have a request: For the sake of avoiding spoilers, could everyone please refrain from mentioning whether any non-regular cast members in this episode reappear in later episodes? I think this would go miles towards enhancing the guys’ enjoyment. Thanks!
@gggooding
11 ай бұрын
Comments are gonna definitely spoil some stuff (heck, thumbnails on paramount spoil stuff 😤). But I agree wholeheartedly with ya! Be way more fun if the fellas get slapped with...well, surprises, of course. 🖖
@OpenMawProductions
11 ай бұрын
They won't remember even if someone does. They often forget things. But yes, generally, avoiding saying anything specific about future stuff.
@AndrewLakeUK
11 ай бұрын
Well said, Chief, we don't want them to suffer, over and over again.
@angelainamarie9656
11 ай бұрын
I had a friend in 9th grade freaking spoiler Spock in Wrath of Khan for me, I have still not forgiven that child. People who spoiler just need to know, there's a special hell.
@AndrewLakeUK
11 ай бұрын
@@angelainamarie9656 To be fair The Great Bird also talked a lot about that one before the film. Everyone knew before watching it on release. That's why the fake out at the start works, we knew it would happen, but we weren't prepared for it twice.
@pokes404
11 ай бұрын
This episode may be in my bottom tier of TNG episodes, but Bones telling Data, “You treat her like a lady … and she’ll always bring you home,” is one of my favorite moments in the whole franchise.
@TheNoiseySpectator
11 ай бұрын
Ah, so you weren't further dismayed that they had to get characters from other series to vouch for it, to actually come onto the show itself to vouch for it? Didn't that seem like they knew it wasn't good enough to stand on its own two feet? 🤮
@pokes404
11 ай бұрын
@@TheNoiseySpectator Maybe if it was a reoccurring event for members of the old cast to show up and tell the new crew are awesome they were and how amazing this new Enterprise is I would agree. But one quick cameo in the pilot felt more like “old Star Trek” christening the Enterprise-D and sending the new crew on their way.
@cmlemmus494
10 ай бұрын
I feel that that complaint probably surfaced a LOT later. I know this is anecdotal, but I don't recall anyone of my friends or family who watched TNG and didn't like that cameo. However, it's important to realise three things: 1. The internet as we know it didn't exist yet. There was no giant echo chambre for people to discuss shows. Other than talking with your friends or coworkers, you needed to actually go to a con to discuss things and cons were generally small and positive. 2. Not only were there no other Star Trek shows to compare TNG to, most people only had vague (but positive) memories of the original series. There was no streaming TV, no blurays or VHS tapes of the show, no bootleg downloads. If TOS wasn't playing in reruns in your area, you hadn't seen it since the original run. 3. Crossovers, cameos, and stunt casting were super common across all genres of TV in this period. Having someone from TOS guest star on TNG was nothing. We're lucky they didn't use the holodeck to have a Harlem Globetrotters episode.@@TheNoiseySpectator
@rb1691
10 ай бұрын
PBU DeForest Kelley, and the irascible country doctor he portrayed, who traveled among the stars, romanced a queen, and plied his trade among dozens of worlds and nonhuman races.
@roykassinger6903
9 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure there WASNT any pre show publicity about De guest starring, but I remember hearing a radio ad for the broadcast and thinking, "well,someone screwed up, they're playing the theme from TMP."
@LeutnantJoker
11 ай бұрын
Since you like the Enterprise Computer in the hallways so much: Remember that during this time there were no touchscreens, and flatscreens were insanely expensive. So all the computer displays are not actual computer graphics. Every design, every graphic on those screens is handmade by Michael Okuda, a designer who worked on all the shows from TNG onwards (and some of the movies). They are custom made panels that are backlit. They were cheap to make but they had to custom design all of them. The user interface design that he created in this style remained a constant and kind of the Star Trek computer operating system of this era. Michael Okuda and his wife were some of the most important people for the design of Star Trek of this era. Nowadays you can simply create this sort of screen with an actual funtional touch-display. not back then. It was all hand-made.
@walkir2662
11 ай бұрын
And the graphics on the computer screens are called "Okudagrams" in the real world.
@OpenMawProductions
11 ай бұрын
@@walkir2662 LCARS in universe. Library Computer Access/Retrieval System.
@miguelvelez7221
11 ай бұрын
It's impossible for any post Gen X individual to understand that all that production design of TNG influenced nearly every aspect of modern consumer electronics including how operating systems function via things like various interfaces. These things like tablets, smart phones, hands free communication devices, NONE of it existed in any way a vast majority of consumers could get their hands on at that time.
@SeraphArmaros
11 ай бұрын
@@miguelvelez7221 It's so common but so cool to see real-world technology follow ideas from science fiction.
@TheNoiseySpectator
11 ай бұрын
@@miguelvelez7221Oh yes! since we are talking about that scene, don't forget how they also normalized women checking out their bosses butt while they walk away, because lycra onesies with no pockets were considered a military uniform. Classy, right?
@Dracounguis
11 ай бұрын
The good old days when a season was more than 6-10 episodes AND there was a season every year instead of every 2-3 years!
@Anthyrion
10 ай бұрын
Not to mention: Acting like they were professional Starfleet Officers and not crying through an episode like some other characters
@silikon2
10 ай бұрын
@@AnthyrionIndeed. I can't even believe anyone would go on a deep space mission with a crew full of non stop whingers.
@koki84ji7
10 ай бұрын
I think we all prefer we'll written short season rather than bloated 25 episodes where like 10 or more are absolute dog shit
@Dracounguis
10 ай бұрын
@@koki84ji7 well right now all we're getting is the 10 episodes that are dog shit. 😆
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
9 ай бұрын
@@koki84ji7 i agree, but i 6-10 episodes is too short for star trek. i think around 13-15 strikes a happy medium
@alberttaylor2754
11 ай бұрын
Greetings young fellas, I am glad you enjoyed the first episode of TNG. As a 63 year old Star Trek/Wars NERD, when TNG first came out I tried really hard NOT to like it because in my mind at the time NO ONE could replace Kirk, Spock et' al. But after a few episodes I began to realize they were not REPLACING TOS they were building the universe. I grew to LOVE TNG and the rest of Star Trek as a whole universe. Live long and prosper, young fellas.🖖
@WmTRiker
11 ай бұрын
Hi. I, too, am 63 and have been watching Star Trek most of my life. I remember watching it during its original run, but it wasn't until it went syndicated that I really got into it. As for Star Wars, I'm sure you're like me and remember when the first movie was just "Star Wars", not "Episode IV: A New Hope" and watched it on a WIDE screen, and possibly at a drive-in!
@WmTRiker
10 ай бұрын
@@martinboyle9163 100% agree. The _original_ 1977 version is the best and Han DID shoot first (not even sure Greedo shot at all).
@Ragnarok345
11 ай бұрын
“I don’t want to see more of the _same_ Star Trek show.” _……shoves “The Naked Now” in a closet_ Carry on, boys!
@r.j.sullivan2104
11 ай бұрын
As a college age Trekkie when this first aired, let me confirm some things: The Kelley cameo was not part of the promotion, it was a complete surprise. The Star casting at the time were LeVar Burton, well regarded for his role from Roots, and Will Wheaton, who was fresh off the hit movie Stand By Me. Deanna Troi was not well regarded from the pilot performance alone, and Jonathan Frakes was dismissed as a pretty face. DC Fontana wrote the Farpoint mystery, then Roddenberry added the Q story. Dorothy was mot happy with that. Some trivia: John DeLancie was fresh off of Days of our Lives, from which he played a love interest to Arleen Sorkin. She would go on to land her most famous role, the voice of Harley Quinn on Batman TAS.
@IggyStardust1967
11 ай бұрын
If you've never seen the movie "Toy Soldiers", I recommend it. Will Wheaton was in that movie, and while I don't drop any spoilers (in case you haven't seen it).... it's my favorite role of his.
@melanieszelong4664
11 ай бұрын
Not only was Harley Quinn her most famous role but she was also the inspiration for the character
@r.j.sullivan2104
11 ай бұрын
@@melanieszelong4664 True, I recently saw the clip of her dressed as a clown on Days of our Lives that Paul Dini said inspired him. Interesting, as her character Calliope was more an homage to Cyndi Lauper with her New Yawk accent and weird clothes. Wow, that takes me back, lol
@josephkrengel
Ай бұрын
DC Fontana wasn't just angry that Rodenberry added Q, she was angry that he got the top writing credit, and I think it impacted her fees too. Rodenberry did something similar with TOS; he wrote lyrics for the theme song never intending them to be sung; even though they were never performed, it entitled him to one half the performance royalties for the music because it made him a co-composer, taking the money out of Alexander Courage's pocket.
@JAF729
11 ай бұрын
You two have the right attitude towards the first two seasons of TNG. As someone who watched it when it first came out, I enjoyed it. Sure some episodes are weak and the actors take a while to figure out their characters but if you consider when it was made and that this is only the 2nd Star Trek show ever you will find a lot to enjoy here. Most people complaining about these seasons are comparing it to just about every Trek show and movie ever made. By watching Trek in chronological order I think you'll be able to appreciate TNG just like I did when it first came out. Have fun!
@Blazingstoke
11 ай бұрын
22:45 "Maybe in the future, the glass is so strong..." But it's not glass, it's transparent aluminum! And you're right, Data is not Spock...he's Xon. (Xon was a full-Vulcan character written for _Star Trek Phase II_ who had never worked with humans before, and is having to learn on the fly how to interact with such emotional beings.)
@r.j.sullivan2104
11 ай бұрын
It’s hard to explain what it was like growing up a classic Trek fan (from 70s reruns and seeing the movies as they came out) to sit down with my best friend and fellow Trekker in front of a TV the night TNG premiered.
@tinkinc85
11 ай бұрын
I so remember having video taped the promo for this and playing it over and over for weeks before the actual broadcast.
@pauld6967
11 ай бұрын
Pretty much the same story for my friends and myself the night it aired & the episodes that followed.
@j3pl
11 ай бұрын
Same here, I was in a room with a half dozen other nerds the night it first aired, and we were all super excited. We were a bit underwhelmed because the first episode just isn't that great, and Patrick Stewart wasn't then the legend he is now. Nevertheless it became a weekly addiction which paid off as it got (much) better over time.
@jollyjohnthepirate3168
11 ай бұрын
Same experience here. Kind of anti climatic. Awful story.
@chrissonofpear1384
11 ай бұрын
I saw it on reruns, when young. And was only two years old, when it first debuted. But I soon got drawn in. And the movies, too. In fact, I hardly saw much of TOS, til later.
@Sir_Alex
11 ай бұрын
The cameo with Bones is so sweet .... I almost always shed a tear 🤩
@OpenMawProductions
11 ай бұрын
"In the 24th Century; there will be no hunger, there will be no greed, and all the children will know how to read." - Gene Roddenberry. It's kicking off. It's kicking off! The NEXT Generation. Here we are gentlemen. "Welcome to the 24th Century."
@Dionpitman
11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the 24th Century 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@CMWaters
11 ай бұрын
Glad to be the champagne bottle breaking on the bow of the new addition to these reacts. Small trivia that you may have heard but just in case: the ceiling of the Enterprise-D transporter was actually the floor of the TOS Enterprise's transporter.
@moonlander2821
11 ай бұрын
D'oh! I just saw your comment after posting the same piece of trivia. 🤦♂️ I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one impressed by that!
@giantclam1822
8 ай бұрын
I see what you did there
@jenniferdarling6
11 ай бұрын
I was born in 1980 so this is the Star Trek I grew up on, then I watched the original series after. I'm so happy that you guys reacted to any Star Trek at all, it is such a heartwarming TV show that I think enriches all who love it. Thank you for all your hard work and patience! 🖖 "Pain..... terrible...pain...." The best captain ever is in your future Voyage!❤️
@TheLeft-HandedPainter
11 ай бұрын
88 for me, but for some reason, the original films are the most nostalgic for me, the undiscovered country, if definitely in my top 3 out of all the movies
@CavemanSynthesizer
11 ай бұрын
I was also born in the early 80s, so I also grew up with TNG, but my mom and dad were both Star Trek fans, so the original series was also present. I'm sure I saw TNG first, but I think they used to play TOS reruns on KWNG Denver when I was growing up so I believe I grew up with both kind of simultaneously.
@escapetheratracenow9883
11 ай бұрын
I went to a Trek Convention in England in 1987. We saw the whole of Season 1 in 3 and a half days. To cap it off, Patrick Stewart turned up on the Monday. We were already blown away by what we had just seen, a whole 10 months before it aired on BBC1. Patrick was treated like the 2nd Coming. It was amazing! You boys are in for one hell of a ride. Enjoy!
@EvanG529
11 ай бұрын
Seasons 1 and 2 are rough to say the least, but they have their good episodes like any show. And I bet you will find things to enjoy in these seasons, considering you typically do for the less-liked episodes.
@anthonybernacchi2732
11 ай бұрын
8. Prior to TNG, Brent Spiner was best known for a recurring role on the sitcom "Night Court." Spiner and John de Lancie both guest-starred in “Dead Run,” a 1986 episode of the superb but now largely forgotten ’80s revival of "The Twilight Zone." Reading the “Farpoint” script convinced Spiner that he was interested in pursuing the part of Data. His makeup tests for the role included bubblegum pink and battleship gray colors before the choice of the opalescent gold skin now familiar to viewers. Watching TNG primarily on a black-and-white TV as a kid, it was a couple of years before I realized that Data’s eyes were yellow. Actor Eric Menyuk, the first runner-up for the role of Data, was cast as the Traveler in “Where No One Has Gone Before” as a consolation prize. Other candidates for Data included Mark Lindsay Chapman (later best known for the "Swamp Thing" TV series), Robert Englund ("A Nightmare on Elm Street"), Kevin Peter Hall ("Predator"), John Lone ("The Last Emperor"), Kim Miyori ("St. Elsewhere"), and Kelvin Han Yee ("A Great Wall"). Hall, who was 7 feet 2 inches tall, died in April 1991, during Season 4 of TNG - not from medical issues due to his height, but from AIDS-related pneumonia, having contracted HIV from a blood transfusion. (Kim Miyori is a woman, in case you were wondering.)
@anthonybernacchi2732
10 ай бұрын
I forgot or didn't know when I wrote this post that Patrick Stewart also auditioned for Data!
@MKDumas1981
10 ай бұрын
@@anthonybernacchi2732: Patrick Stewart as Data, and Brent Spiner as Captain Picard?
@phantom6
24 күн бұрын
Fun Fact, Spiner was offered the lead role in his own spin-off from Nightcourt for his character Bob Wheeler, He turned it down for TNG.
@anthonybernacchi2732
11 ай бұрын
16. LeVar Burton was the best-known member of TNG’s cast to American audiences in 1987 and was emphasized in early news stories about the show’s production. He first achieved prominence in the 1977 TV miniseries "Roots," hosting the PBS children’s series "Reading Rainbow" from 1983 onwards. Years later, when Burton appeared on Stephen Colbert’s talk show, Colbert gave a description of him which I found screamingly funny, even if it was slightly politically incorrect. I wish I could quote it exactly, but it was something to the effect of, “We saw him overcome slavery, achieve literacy, and graduate first in his class from Starfleet Academy.” Actor Tim Russ ("The Twilight Zone": “Kentucky Rye” and “Voices in the Earth”) was the first runner-up for the role of Geordi La Forge. Other candidates included Clarence Gilyard ("Matlock"), Kevin Peter Hall (also considered for Data), Reggie Jackson (yes, the baseball player!), Eriq La Salle (who went on to great success on the medical drama "ER"; he also guest-starred in “Memphis,” a 2003 episode of the *third* version of "The Twilight Zone"), Victor Love ("Native Son"), Chip McAllister ("The Greatest"), and Wesley Snipes (!!), who was then at the beginning of his career and, of course, went on to become a major star. Riker beaming up to the Enterprise is not inherently a strong enough moment to justify its being an act break; its real significance is that the audience is seeing the TNG transporter effect for the first time, which would have carried great weight in 1987.
@flotilha935
11 ай бұрын
Although S1 is a bit rough TNG is incredible!!! Data, Picard and Worf are some of my favorite characters ever!
@RetroRobotRadio
11 ай бұрын
They actually kept the Bones cameo a secret surprise, and didn't even mention the character name on the show.
@NYJetsforlife
11 ай бұрын
Corey Allen directed TNG’s pilot “Encounter at Farpoint.” Corey was my acting teacher in film school way back in 1997. Corey also acted in “Rebel Without a Cause.” He played the gang leader Buzz who had the famous knife fight with James Dean. Corey was one of the nicest people I’ve ever met in Hollywood. RIP.
@RetroRobotRadio
11 ай бұрын
You are not the first person to say Q is like Trilane. In fact John Delancey knew about Trilane and used him as an influence for his acting. There is even a novel where they say Q is the father of Trilane. That means Q was one of the parent voices who took Trilane home at the end of Squire of Gothos!
@LeutnantJoker
11 ай бұрын
Love the green screen use :) welcome to NCC 1701-D
@bobbuethe1477
11 ай бұрын
When this first aired, one newspaper TV critic that I followed mentioned that the creators of ST:TNG imagined a future so litigious that every starship has a lawyer on board. After I watched the episode, I realized that the critic misunderstood the role of "Counselor" Troi.
@karter95
11 ай бұрын
I grew up on TNG. I discovered it mid way through season one and frankly. I have seen EVERY episode multiple times. I still watch episodes on Paramount and Pluto still
@moviemetalhead
7 ай бұрын
Might as well buy the blu ray, at this point.
@moonlander2821
11 ай бұрын
I grew up on TOS and thought it could never be topped. Then TNG became my favorite show. (And THEN we got Deep Space Nine!)
@Dmarcoot
11 ай бұрын
I really love TNG as much as any thing in my 55 years and I find the first season unwatchable because it’s gets so much better by season 3
@nathanielreik6617
11 ай бұрын
Patrick Stewart recently released a memoir and in it he said that he knew he could not surpass William Shatner's delivery of intro "Space the final frontier..." so he listened to William Shatner's delivery a lot so that he could then copy his delivery since Shatner did it so perfectly. Also the music for the intro is actual the theme from The Motion Picture.
@linphillips8331
11 ай бұрын
Back in the 80s, I actually stopped watching the show into the first season. In season 3, I think, a friend put it on and I said, "that show sucks!" He goes, "No, it's gotten better," and from that point until the end I was hooked.
@TheDougMan
11 ай бұрын
Great reaction. Your anticipation for the show was similar to mine when TNG premiered. I grew up watching TOS, but enjoyed this show immediately including this season. PS: Your reaction to McCoy was priceless. They did not mention him in commercials to my knowledge, so viewers were shocked like you were at the time.
@kenc6842
11 ай бұрын
I remember reading about when TNG came out that people complained that TOS was "lightning in a bottle", that it was something special that could never be caught again. That there was no way that TNG would ever be able to live up to their predecessors of TOS. Well, they most certainly did catch that "lightning in a bottle" again, it just took a little bit of time. You see the crew grow and eventually become a family. One thing that I love about the TNG cast is that they are all good friends in real life, they hang out and see each other outside of work. Shatner famously had issues with some of the supporting cast members and they with him (Takei, Nichols, Koenig for example), but the TNG cast really do love each other.
@WEB_78O
11 ай бұрын
We're finally here. Love double dippin with the full uncut version on the patreon and then later the youtube version lol.
@targetaudience
11 ай бұрын
Best way to do it!
@WEB_78O
11 ай бұрын
@@targetaudience agreed! Like having both the director's cut and theatrical cut
@gailseatonhumbert
11 ай бұрын
It's interesting that you know Frakes from that show first because Leonard Nimoy also did an anthology series for 146 episodes of "In Search Of" after his run in Star Trek (Shatner of course had found it necessary to do one himself as he seems to compete with most things Nimoy did after TOS) including Ancient Mysteries.
@rachelpsmith3129
11 ай бұрын
In Search Of was my jam, many years ago.
@IggyStardust1967
11 ай бұрын
@@rachelpsmith3129 I own the entire series on DVD, and still enjoy watching it (Yes, I watched it back in the 1970s). Fun fact - The actor who played Spock in the Abrahm's movies took over hosting duties for a reboot of the series (included in the DVD set). There was also a funny car commercial where the two Spocks interacted with one another.
@gailseatonhumbert
9 ай бұрын
@@IggyStardust1967love the commercial with the 2 Spocks
@zmadhatter2340
11 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, this is gonna be great. It's embarrassing how much I've been looking forward to you guys' reaction to TNG
@JoeMama410
11 ай бұрын
I had seen some TOS as a kid, but I grew up watching TNG every week with my dad. I was shocked to find out that the TNG theme was repurposed from TMP. Deanna Troi is the classic “state the obvious” type of empath.
@TheNoiseySpectator
11 ай бұрын
Everybody said Troi was such a hot babe! I always thought she was very creepy! And _rude_ with the way she always told everyone in the room what people's private feelings were! 😒
@applcinamn
11 ай бұрын
Her telling on people's feelings was the whole point of her being there, lol. And they were obviously using her as the babe factor since she was the one with the big 80s hair and accentuating uniforms. For me, at the time, I just thought the idea of a starship captain having this "counsellor" literally at his side on the bridge telling him "they're hiding something" was ridiculous. And then Riker sat there repeating Picard's orders and going on the mission because it was too risky for the captain to go. It really made me miss Kirk and TOS all the more.
@talynstarburst2l2l2l
11 ай бұрын
I love this format! Back to an intro and episode discussion.. looking forward to watching TNG with you guys!
@harrybroos5691
11 ай бұрын
I was sitting on pins and needles for weeks waiting for TNG to debut, and I was horrified when it did lol I was convinced it would be canceled after the first season, luckily it really didn't have any sci-fi competition at the time, then really found its legs in the third season and turned into a juggernaut
@anthonybernacchi2732
11 ай бұрын
4. Picard’s first entrance is especially grand and theatrical as he steps forward into the spotlight. (By contrast, Kirk’s first appearance in “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” his first TOS episode in production and chronological order, has the camera “discover” him playing 3D chess with Spock.) In the decades since his casting as Jean-Luc Picard, Sir Patrick Stewart has become an icon of both high culture and pop culture on both sides of the Atlantic. Something most people know about him, even if they have only seen him in Star Trek and/or the "X-Men" movies, is that he is one of the world’s leading Shakespearean actors. Stewart himself has said that prior to TNG he was best known in the Shakespearean world for his low comedy roles, and that it was his TNG exposure that granted him the opportunity to play dramatic leading roles in Shakespeare. However, this is something of an oversimplification: Stewart had already played Claudius, Hamlet’s uncle, in the "BBC Shakespeare," a prestigious project in which the BBC televised every single one of Shakespeare’s plays. Stewart’s performance received extremely positive reviews, with critics saying that the audience came to sympathize primarily with Claudius, even though he is the villain of the story. Stewart’s research for the role of Picard consisted of repeatedly reading the “Farpoint” script. Despite having appeared in the BBC Shakespeare, the David Lynch version of "Dune" and various other films and TV shows, Stewart felt that he had limited experience with screen as opposed to stage acting. For this reason, he attended the first day of shooting on “Farpoint” (the location scene on the Holodeck), even though he did not appear in the scene, to observe the production process.
@kathyastrom1315
11 ай бұрын
Patrick Stewart’s first major tv role was in 1976 as the baddie Sejanus in the BBC miniseries I, Claudius, widely considered to be one of the greatest miniseries ever made. He is terrific in the part!
@majkus
11 ай бұрын
Young Patrick Stewart? Watch "I, Claudius". Seriously. You will see many familiar faces. Brilliant series.
@roninprofessor
11 ай бұрын
I’m glad you’re here now but I really can’t wait until you get to Deep Space Nine. And you guys are spot on about Trelaine / Q. It was retconned in an official novel that they are the same species. Also hopefully one day you’ll get a chance to do the 2000,s Battlestar Galactica as well.
@Dcs.234
11 ай бұрын
Grew up in the 60s with the original startrek and love the next generation… especially like Data and we had our British actor Patrick as the Captain, what’s not to love only spin off I don’t like is Startrek Voyager … didn’t like or gel with any of the characters …
@richardb6260
11 ай бұрын
I watched the premiere with friends back in '87 and we were all thrilled. The fact that Roddenberry was in charge gave us hope. The biggest reaction from us was for McCoy's appearance and the saucer separation sequence. That was something that was mentioned in TOS and it was great to finally see it. While the first couple of seasons has its share, maybe more than its share, of clunky episodes, there are some good ones. There's one that might appeal to your horror sensabilities. The first two seasons are like a shakedown cruise. It's where they find out what works and what doesn't. The characters and actors build their relationships and get confortable with each other. Some elements are dropped. Some are changed. Some might not reach their full potential until later Trek series. Some characters are moved around until they find where they're meant to be. Roddenberry did put limitations on what kind of stories could be told and that may of hampered things in the early seasons when he was fully in charge. Some episodes are definitely cringeworthy. One, I thought, felt like an Afterschool Special. Another is notoriously bad and is the epitome of "hasn't aged well" . It's often cited as the worst TNG episode. Maybe the worst Trek episode ever. But, it was Star Trek on weekly TV where it was meant to be and real Trek fans were happy to tolerate its growing pains to be rewarded when it finally found its footing.
@TheNoiseySpectator
11 ай бұрын
Well, which episode are you talking about? The one where they all got infected with the space intoxication disease and got horny & a certain female character got her ticket punched by an android? The one where they visited the planet of the Swedish sex people who punish every single crime with the death penalty and some magical space spaceship - angel won't them leave until a certain main character is executed? Or, the one with the stereotypical Irish people running amok all over the ship? I think the Worst one was where Troi's mother was going through Menopause - Horney disease and came aboard to try to Bed Picard, got all hot for a holodeck character, but in the end saved them from the goldfish people. But, there were so many of them that could be considered 0 /100. We just plain need you to be more specific. 🤷♂
@richardb6260
11 ай бұрын
@@TheNoiseySpectator I was actually trying not to give away any plots of upcoming episodes.
@Vulcanerd
11 ай бұрын
TOS and TNG are my two favorite series of the bunch. Which isn't to say that it's the one you guys will love the most (though, we've already established you guys love TOS). I know there will be DS9ers, maybe the occasional Voyager fans, maybe some Enterprise fans coming out to defend their corner of the Trekdom and I don't want to poopoo their choices, but the aforementioned two are mine. If I had to predict, I think you guys will, by the end, love DS9 and TOS the most. In the meantime, I can't wait for these episodes to drop!
@Vulcanerd
11 ай бұрын
@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 And I totally agree with you, but half the equation is already set, right, they do love TOS. But, I think the reason they will also love DS9 is b/c it's got a more current story telling sensibility? I could be jumping to conclusions here, but I know at least Alex has seen Breaking Bad and I want to say they've brought up other series where the stories are more serialized and less episodic and I think that's where their love for Trek and the more recent (but not really recent) trend of serialized story telling vs episodic story telling will meet. And DS9 did a phenomenal job of giving every character their time in the sun.
@webstersempire
11 ай бұрын
The "occasional" Voyager fan? Voyager gets the most views of any Trek show for Netflix. It appeals most ro casual viewers. It's the hardcore Trekkies on the interwebs that complain about it😂
@Vulcanerd
11 ай бұрын
@@webstersempireProbably b/c most are watching it on Paramount? Honestly, if you did a survey of which franchise is the most popular, I'd bet TNG or DS9 gets the most votes. As an aside, as much as I love TOS, there's too much of gap between it and the rest of the series to stand much of a chance I would guess. TNG was the only one after TOS to get its own movie franchise then a sequel series in Picard.
@webstersempire
11 ай бұрын
@@Vulcanerd good comments. TOS & TNG are certainly the most popular to this day. DS9 is one of those shows that has a smaller but very loud following. DS9 fans won't miss an opportunity to tell ya it's the best show. But Voyager is the most watched on the world's largest streaming service, because it holds up very well.
@mikejankowski6321
11 ай бұрын
@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 I am in this camp and I think it is precisely because they are so opposite. They compliment each other and thus provide nearly a full spectrum of ST experience on their own.
@kingdave31
11 ай бұрын
TNG premiered when I was 9 and I was super excited for it. I know a lot of people didn't like Wesley, but his character was very true-to-life for 1987, because nerdy kids like me were familiar and comfortable with computers in a way that our parents weren't because we'd used them in school. So it seemed perfectly natural that Wesley was able to sit down in Picard's chair and instantly figure out how everything worked.
@Polymathically
11 ай бұрын
You've finally made it! I was lucky enough to watch TNG in its entirety when it originally aired, way back when I just a kid. The observation from one of your Patreon members is correct; the later seasons are so good, they make the first two look terrible by comparison. Someday, you're going to look back at this episode and laugh. There were a lot of problems with Season 1; Gene Roddenberry's health was declining, the writing staff had a high turnover rate, and no one was sure how successful this was going to be. Patrick Stewart auditioned 3 times (once for Data, twice for Picard), but didn't know how well he'd fare in his transition from his Shakespearean theater work to television sci-fi. His agent actually told him the show would fail, so he basically took the role for the paycheck. Roddenberry didn't even want him as Picard, but the others on the production staff ended up being instrumental in Stewart being hired. His initially stern nature as Picard wasn't entirely for show; he took himself far too seriously and berated the rest of the cast for goofing off between takes. He lightened up considerably later on, though. That can be said for all of the cast, too. As you've noticed, everyone seems so stiff and formal. This isn't just because these characters are meeting each other for the first time, but because the actors themselves haven't settled into and fleshed out their characters. One of the best aspects of TNG is that you get to see these people - both the actors and characters - gradually, genuinely develop from coworkers into a family over 7 seasons. Their relationships in real life reflect their relationships onscreen. And yes, although TNG is mostly episodic, there's actually a lot of continuity if you keep your eyes sharp. And as for Q... Well, you'll see.
@jamesknight3070
11 ай бұрын
As a nineties kid, the anticipation for new episodes of TNG were the equivalent of people waiting a week on streaming services nowadays. With reruns of TOS filling the time between seasons. =)
@HammerJammer81
11 ай бұрын
The waiting weekly .. for 24 weeks was rough. Deep space Nine was the worst for it with the storylines. I miss these shows
@jamesknight3070
11 ай бұрын
@@HammerJammer81 The most painful DS9 wait for me was Season Two into Three, they shook things up with that one!
@arthurward2067
11 ай бұрын
After you guys finish season 2 I highly recommend the documentary Chaos on the Bridge, it'll give some great insight for everything you'll have seen until that point
@samsonau8205
11 ай бұрын
I am NOT the biggest TNG fan in the world...but I'm going to go on this journey with you!! I tried to watch the show during my university days, but as you might expect, school got in the way a lot. Good thing TV wasn't arc-driven in those days. Looking forward to your hearing analyses and opinions.
@auckalukaum
11 ай бұрын
You're exactly right about Will and Deanna being Decker and Iilia, and that they reused the characters since they didn't get to do Phase 2.
@RegClintonBrown
11 ай бұрын
Uh oh SEASON 1 TNG😂
@nevetszinodas6654
11 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Lol
@moonlander2821
11 ай бұрын
A bit of trivia: If I recall correctly, the overhead lights in the transporter chamber were the original transporter foot pads from TOS
@jeffjaeger739
11 ай бұрын
as someone who grew up on repeats of TOS, I have to tell you... ALL of us geeks were about ready pee our pants with excitement when TNG was getting ready to come out. we COULD NOT WAIT!!
@jjlonsdale5971
11 ай бұрын
Wow, this episode really crammed a lot in. Picard's stance on children, Geordie's visor, Q, Riker and Troi's history, the holodeck.... it's amazing they managed any plot at all, let alone "philosophical defense of the human condition"
@chrisbullard5901
11 ай бұрын
I’ll watch through every episode, but I’m waiting for when you get to Season 3’s “The Survivors” and “The Bonding” when Piller takes control.
@scottwells8064
11 ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to "Measure of a Man."
@chrisbullard5901
11 ай бұрын
@@scottwells8064, there are some good episodes in Seasons 1 and 2. It’s oddly similar to manufacturing: if you have no process to make a part and rotate between a brilliant machinist versus someone fresh out of school, that’s what the first two seasons are like. Then, if you build a jig and coach everyone to do the same thing, that’s what Season 3 onward is like.
@utterlee
11 ай бұрын
I'm so excited that you've finally started TNG, glad you enjoyed this pilot episode. The first couple of seasons get a lot of stick - I don't think they're quite as bad as some people make out but it definitely does find its feet later on.
@stephenriggs8177
11 ай бұрын
Data is definitely my favorite character. Had a huge crush on Denise Crosby.
@RandomNPC001
11 ай бұрын
Jonathan Frakes was a great villain in Gargoyles!
@targetaudience
11 ай бұрын
There’s a deep cut
@Sinocthehodgeheg
11 ай бұрын
And a villain in the new adventures of superman 😅
@tjkhanks
11 ай бұрын
@@Sinocthehodgeheg"RRRIITCH PEOPLE! "
@peterkoester7358
11 ай бұрын
The scene with Dr. McCoy was a big secret especially for this premiere episode. In fact, it was shot in such a way that - had word of DeForest Kelley's appearance gotten leaked prior to the show being broadcast - it could be cut entirely with no effect on the plot of the episode. The Ferengi were mentioned in this episode as a tease for what was supposed to become the Federation's new 'major adversary,' much as the Klingons were during the TOS era. Gene Roddenberry had intended to stay away from original series alien races as much as possible - with the exception of Worf representing the new era of the Klingon Empire - thus the directive was, "No Klingons, no Romulans, and especially no Vulcans!" It wasn't until the series started to settle into its own production that Roddenberry relaxed the 'No Original Series Aliens' rule. The Ferengi would eventually come into their own in the sequel series Deep Space Nine. You were quick to pick up on the Riker/Troi dynamic being so similar to the Decker/Ilia characters in TMP. TNG took a lot of what was originally developed for Phase II - the Captain/First Officer dynamic, Riker and Troi's relationship - and was transferred entirely into this new series. In fact, in later season, some of the scripts originally written for Phase II were revised and used for TNG. You were also pretty quick to compare Q to Trelane, the Squire of Gothos. While never confirmed in canon, it has been accepted by the fandom that Trelane was actually an immature member of the Q Continuum, and some of the non-canon novels make reference to that theory.
@kaylzshter6153
10 ай бұрын
Damn, you guys are really going through all of it? Fuck yes!
@Emburbujada
11 ай бұрын
I'm not a TNG fan. I think my problem is I hate almost every character XD Data I find unbearable. In fact, my favourite would be Q, and he's not a regular. Also, every time I see Wesley now, I only hear in my head Sheldon Cooper screaming "Wheaton!" XD But I'll be back to watching your reactions when you get to DS9!
@feralstorm
11 ай бұрын
As I've heard, the pilot was originally just the Farpoint station story, written mostly by DC Fontana, but Paramount decided they wanted a movie-size first episode, so Roddenberry put together the business with Q to pad it out (Roddenberry loves him some godlike beings). A little disconnected, but very important to later episodes.
@Warped9
11 ай бұрын
I didn’t take to TNG at all when it premiered. It took me a long time to mellow over it. After all these years TOS remains my favourite, but there is TNG I’ve come to like, but the vast bulk of it is in the first four seasons. After that Trek just got progressively same-old-same-old dull. I really didn’t like VOY and ENT. And Trek from the JJ Abrams’ 2009 film has become unwatchable for me.
@m.e.3862
11 ай бұрын
Out of 7 seasons there's only a handful of episodes that I truly like. I'm not the biggest fan of the Berman and Braga Trek which pretty much consists of plodding plots, bland music and technoblabbing technical tech support talk in lieu of dialogue and good storytelling.
@GeneBateman1970
11 ай бұрын
i can not wait till you guys get to Deep Space 9. the best of the series
@dirus3142
11 ай бұрын
TNG heavily explores the Klingon, and Romulan cultures. Micheal Dorn was a big part of influencing the Klingons. Unfortunatly the Gorn, Tholians, Andorians, and Tellarites, are pretty much forgotten. Which irked me because I find all of them interesting. Andorian, and Tellarites are founding federation species. Majel Barrett continues to be the voice of the Enterprises computer.
@philipjohnson3459
11 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see you guys start TNG. As someone that grew up in the 80's and was brought up on and loved TOS, it's nice to see people that ended up loving TOS as much as you going into TNG with such excitement. It mirrors what I felt at the time. It was so great to have a Star Trek TV show again and I loved it. At the end of the day I'm a TOS guy to my core, and it will always be my favorite, but loved watching TNG. As a lot of comments have said, yes, the first season (and 2nd season really) was a bit rough, but as someone that watched the show as it came out, I didn't realize it until I looked back on the series, I just knew it was Star Trek and I was having a blast watching it. I'm so glad I found your channel and to see you guys fall in love with Star Trek and basically are now at the point I was when TNG was released, I'm happy to see your Journey. Have fun, It's going to be an interesting ride.
@JMO_1976
11 ай бұрын
I was 11 when this came out, but had been a Trekkie since I was about 4 (2 older brothers were also into ST & got me hooked). I had no animosity about a new crew or ship, quite the opposite actually. And it's not like this was a reboot or anything like that, but a continuation of the original series. As for Deforest Kelly's cameo, IIRC there was nothing about it in any of the promos for the show. I was geeking out when I saw him too. The first actual promo I saw for TNG was when we rented Star Trek IV the Voyage Home after it came out on video, and they had a trailer for it on there. They also had marketing promos with with Cheerios & a toy line done by Galoob. The Cheerios promo offered a poster of the Enterprise (like the painting in Picard's ready room) for a certain number of UPCs from the cereal boxes. I had the poster throughout high school but it got lost sometime after that. As for the uniforms, apparently the enitre cast HATED them. They were I believe similar to spandex and so you'd have to watch what you eat because these would show everything. Because the bottom of the pants hooked under their boots to stretch the uniform, it was also a PITA for bathroom breaks.
@anthonybernacchi2732
11 ай бұрын
6. The two brief scenes in “Farpoint” in Main Engineering contribute nothing to the plot. The real reason for their inclusion is that the production team was aware that, if they did not build the Engineering set for the pilot, Paramount would never pay to build it for a subsequent episode. Of course, as in TOS, Engineering is a major setting in later episodes. Marina Sirtis, like Patrick Stewart, is British. At the time of her TNG casting, she was despairing of finding success in Hollywood and was about to return to the UK to replenish her nest egg. Among her previous performances was a small role as an Italian woman in “The Six Napoleons,” an episode of the superb Sherlock Holmes series produced in the UK by Granada Television and starring Jeremy Brett as Holmes. This role mostly consisted of scenes with a young man who yelled repeatedly that her character was a "putana" (Italian for “whore”). Since my late mother was of Italian descent, she found it endlessly amusing to see Sirtis in that role after watching her on TNG for years as Troi. Deanna Troi was my mother’s least-favorite regular character on TNG because she loathed the concept of working with an empath who is constantly aware of other people’s emotions. She felt that Troi’s mere presence on the ship was an intolerable invasion of everyone else’s privacy. By contrast, Troi has always been one of my favorite characters. That well-known progressive feminist Gene Roddenberry wanted female Betazoids, including Troi, to have three or four breasts. D. C. Fontana (who was a woman, by the way) successfully argued against this, saying human women found two of them awkward enough and querying how Gene intended the breasts to be arranged on Troi’s body.
@agresticumbra
11 ай бұрын
The breast thing amuses me. Were Betazed women known for having small litters?
@racookster
11 ай бұрын
I don't think this will be too much of a spoiler. The good news is, Deanna Troi doesn't become Ms. Exposition. The bad news is, she becomes Captain Obvious and stays that way for a very long time. Eventually, she develops into a funny, likable character, but it takes a while.
@AlexSeverinski
11 ай бұрын
8:24 Something you might not know about Michael Bell is that he's a prolific voice actor, having starred in a lot of 80s and 90s cartoons like Transformers, GI Joe, Pryde of the X-Men and Rugrats. This episode is one of his rare on camera roles.
@miguelvelez7221
11 ай бұрын
This was probably, not counting maybe Casey Kasem, the earliest memory of seeing a VO performer whom I would instantly recognize the voice in something live action.
@pigs18
11 ай бұрын
One of at least two OG Transformers/GI Joe actors in the show.
@zoppie
11 ай бұрын
He voiced the main male character in Hanna-Barbera's animated _Lost in Space_ pilot. The only connection between the classic show and this failed cartoon was the Doctor Smith character, once again played by Jonathan Harris.
@miguelvelez7221
11 ай бұрын
@@pigs18 Ooh... Who was the other? Was it Chris Lotta?
@tomyoung9049
11 ай бұрын
As a life long TOS fan❤. I was definitely primed for Star Trek to be back on TV. Came to really like TNG. It took awhile. Don't want to say much. Most all your questions will be answered with more shows.
@paultucker3143
11 ай бұрын
I think that was some of the challenges TNG faced early was the“ Who is the Spock, or Scotty?” trying to pigeonhole new characters into the old format. In addition to some of the other growing pains, that gave TNG some troubles with audience adoption. But look forward to seeing you watch them grow into their own. II think it became easier to engage new series after that point.
@TheNoiseySpectator
11 ай бұрын
Roddenberry knew Star Trek well enough to not try to fit characters into the same crew dynamics as on the original series. He said in some interview or other that is why there was no Vulcan first officer on the Enterprise D. I may be cutting the line for spoilers a bit too fine here, but T'Pol is one of the few Characters in Star Trek that I actually dislike.
@MU-sj7by
11 ай бұрын
Yeahhh! I Love your Reactions to Star Trek! TNG and DS9 are the best Series. Greetings Form Switzerland Live Long and prosper
@cirkbejnar8329
11 ай бұрын
I remember being apprehensive when TNG was first announced. I learned of it from a TV Guide profile and figure I must have been the youngest fan in America to say "How can you gave Star Trek without Kirk and Spock?" I was not quite 6 at the time. While it takes TNG a while to fully hit its stride there are several excellent first season episodes you should enjoy. I hope you come to love these characters as much as we do.
@DirigoDuke
11 ай бұрын
Regarding uniforms, I’m surprised you guys didn’t notice the unisex look. There’s a couple of scenes with dudes in skirts walking by in the background.
@LMoftheCoast
11 ай бұрын
Your comment about the similarities between Riker/Troi and Decker/Illyia is absolutely spot on. During the 70s there was a proposed Star Trek TV show that got pretty deep into production (to the point of casting and sets being built) that focused round a new crew, with Decker being the new captain of the original Enterprise. A lot of the scripts used in the first couple of seasons of TNG were scripts originally written for that cancelled series, with some modifications of course.
@SpudBro1
11 ай бұрын
Saw TNG when it originally aired in the 80’s and multiple times since then, but glad to catch your reaction at episode 1 and follow you guys on this journey. Love the discussions before and after the reaction as well.
@elizabethpalladino8301
11 ай бұрын
Having been born in 1957, I grew up with the original Star Trek and watched it over and over when the reruns went into syndication. I was excited when Star Trek: The Motion Picture came out and was excited when The Next Generation hit our TVs. I loved every season of TNG, and it's only with re-watching that I can tell that Season 1 is definitely of a different quality than subsequent seasons. When I was watching Season 1 for the first time, there was definitely a glow to finally having a new Star Trek show.
@teckiemom
11 ай бұрын
I was so furious they did not base TNG on the original Star Trek characters I refused to watch it until it was well into it's first season when my infant daughter was hospitalized and saw it while I was with her and needed a distraction. I finally relented and watched the show after that. When it comes Kirk vs Picard, in my opinion Kirk will forever be the best enterprise captain.
@jondbm
11 ай бұрын
Wow you guys are really not ready for where this show will take you. TNG is for sure the greatest Trek show. Keep up the good work!
@Ship-security
11 ай бұрын
Please watch this show and then DS9. You guys are in for a real treat. I’m happy for you and can’t wait to watch every episode you guys do.
@winkles2314
11 ай бұрын
There are some hidden gems in season one, and some classics in season two.
@RetroRobotRadio
11 ай бұрын
Note: Some claim that no one uses money in the future... but Dr. Crusher has them charge her ship account for the purchase! Somebody is using money in the first episode.
@Bridget108p
11 ай бұрын
Awe, I'll be your girlfriend 😉
@Vulcanerd
11 ай бұрын
I'm with Patreon David Wayne Fox with how I feel about the first couple of seasons (as well as with the rest).
@vincentpuccio3689
11 ай бұрын
As the show progresses, you’re gonna love the Klingons. Especially when you start to get into the later episodes and deep space nine
@Gaminghour2018
10 ай бұрын
its not glass its Transparent Aluminum, which what they used during the construction of the ships.
@rendalconstantineau1680
11 ай бұрын
I grew up watching TOS reruns with my Dad on Sundays, and I still remember both of us being so excited for this new Star Trek: TNG! I still remember us sitting in front of the TV watching this first episode together.
@singularrookhart7501
11 ай бұрын
Just wanna say I love your persistent use of "rec room". That's a very rare old school Trek fan quirk and you gents came by it organically in 2023. Beautiful
@huskerchuck9212
11 ай бұрын
The "journey" isn't over. In some ways, it never ends, because new material is still being produced. I am anxious to follow your journey of discovery (no pun intended). Josh and Alex: How about a bit of your future selves (maybe in your 70s or 80s) reviewing future movie Star Trek XXVII? LOL
@fyrestorme
11 ай бұрын
I can tell you from experience that people weren't really against the changes in the new series as it had been so long since the original series had run and the new series (TNG) was tastefully done for the most part.
@anthonybernacchi2732
11 ай бұрын
5. According to the Memory Alpha wiki, other candidates for the role of Jean-Luc Picard included Stephen Macht ("Cagney & Lacey"; the first runner-up), James Earl Jones (who needs no introduction), Billy Dee Williams (ditto), Don Ameche ("Trading Places," "Cocoon"), Patrick Bauchau ("A View to a Kill"), Theodore Bikel (star of "Fiddler on the Roof" on Broadway; guest-starred in "The Twilight Zone": “Four O’Clock”), Avery Brooks ("Spenser: For Hire"), William Devane ("Knots Landing"), Peter Donat ("The Godfather Part II"), Andrew Duggan ("The Homecoming: A Christmas Story"), Keir Dullea ("2001: A Space Odyssey"), Dana Elcar ("MacGyver"), James Gammon (best known for "Major League," released in 1989), Paul Gleason ("The Breakfast Club"), Scott Glenn ("The Right Stuff"), Peter Michael Goetz ("Jumpin’ Jack Flash"), Louis Gossett Jr. ("Roots," "An Officer and a Gentleman"), George Grizzard ("The Twilight Zone": “The Chaser” and “In His Image”), Moses Gunn ("Little House on the Prairie"), Fred Gwynne ("The Munsters"), George Hearn (primarily a Broadway actor), Thomas Hill ("The NeverEnding Story"), John Hillerman ("Magnum, P.I."), Robert Hogan (many TV guest appearances, including "The Twilight Zone": “Spur of the Moment”), Barrie Ingham ("The Great Mouse Detective"; guest-starred in "Doctor Who": “The Myth Makers,” now a lost story), Yaphet Kotto ("Live and Let Die," "Alien"), John McMartin ("Sweet Charity"), Edward Mulhare ("The Ghost & Mrs. Muir"; guest-starred in "Battlestar Galactica": “Experiment in Terra”), Edward James Olmos ("Miami Vice"), James Olson ("Rachel, Rachel"), Anthony Quayle ("Lawrence of Arabia"), Mitchell Ryan ("Lethal Weapon"), Telly Savalas ("Kojak"; guest-starred in "The Twilight Zone": “Living Doll”), John Saxon ("A Nightmare on Elm Street" and Roddenberry’s unsold pilot "Planet Earth"), Dick Shawn ("The Producers"), Roy Thinnes ("The Invaders"; guest-starred in "Battlestar Galactica": “Gun on Ice Planet Zero”), Rip Torn ("Cross Creek"), Lee Van Cleef ("For a Few Dollars More," "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"; guest-starred in "The Twilight Zone": “The Grave”), and Noble Willingham ("Good Morning, Vietnam"). In 1987, when production of TNG began, these actors ranged in age from 39 (Brooks) to 79 (Ameche). Bauchau, born in Belgium, was the only one from the Francosphere. Patrick Stewart was among the youngest of them; only Brooks, Olmos, Macht, Goetz and (possibly) Glenn were younger (according to Wikipedia, sources differ on Glenn’s year of birth). Stewart was 47 years old in 1987, only three years older than I am now, which makes me feel ancient; Alex and Josh referring to him as “young” during their reaction made me feel better about myself (although, of course, they meant “young” in comparison to when he played Charles Xavier). According to the chronology Star Trek has established over the decades, Jean-Luc Picard is 59 during TNG Season 1; humans age more slowly in the 24th century. Dick Shawn died of a heart attack on stage during a comedy performance on April 17, 1987, the month before “Farpoint” began filming. Duggan, Quayle, Van Cleef, Gwynne, Ameche, and Gunn also died before TNG ended.
@moonlander2821
11 ай бұрын
Hmmm... I've heard of Avery Brooks somewhere 😄 I would have loved to see either Yaphet Koto or Lee Van Cleef as a Starfleet captain! Thanks for sharing!
@gettygermany
10 ай бұрын
What most people miss out: The very first Star Trek episode of the old series didnt included Kirk........... Pike was the lead character. Star Trek was LITERALLY FROM THE START about different captains.
@aircap
11 ай бұрын
First season is stiff by comparison but the cast grew into the characters very organically over time. The fact that they became a close-knit family of friends in real life shows on screen.
@Vulcanerd
11 ай бұрын
Prescient Josh strikes! About what, I won't say b/c I don't want to spoil it~😁
@WeerdMunkee
11 ай бұрын
The show gets even better as it goes along too! As time goes on, you can tell they get so much more comfortable with their characters, and the fact that they ALL actually become close friends in REAL LIFE as they spend more time making the show helps to add to the way they play off each other. They're all still close friends and apparently get together as much as they can.
@tomtortolani8082
11 ай бұрын
Great and fair reaction. The best episode of S1. I found it hard to watch or tune in after suffering through the first 4-5 episodes.
@paul1979uk2000
11 ай бұрын
The first two sessions are a bit rough around the edges, but TNG really starts to get its footing in the third session and probably ends up becoming one of the most popular Star Trek shows of them all, depending on who you ask.
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