00:00:00 Start 00:00:14 Who are the five suspects? 00:03:08 The breaking news 00:06:18 Coffee time 00:07:01 Who are the victims? 00:07:40 Case recap 00:20:04 Document time! 00:25:27 This Gag Order was granted 00:27:48 Victims' families speak out 00:30:01 Debrief and Outro FULL CASE PLAYLIST: kzitem.info/door/PL0cYrgj38mhrC-Lb3Nt-2G-y2v7ohoEUk
@charlee19
3 ай бұрын
Support! Here!
@JenHodge-pj6lp
3 ай бұрын
Those poor kids!!! Mom gone, Dad and addict and in rehab. The grandma and their world turned totally upside down. I hope they have good therapy and a stable loving household to help them navigate life!! These people are EVIL!!!! Justice for Veronica and Jillian!!!!
@tsharpe4047
3 ай бұрын
Tiffany unalived her granddaughter’s mother on granddaughter’s birthday. Poor girl will never see her birthday as a celebration ever again.
@janetklumper6048
3 ай бұрын
How on earth does she thinks they could do this without being caught
@lilolmecj
3 ай бұрын
I really hope this young lady, and her brother, I think, are adopted into a stable family. I don’t know if Veronica’s family is capable . Anyway they should give her the option of re-setting her birthday celebration to any date she prefers. It can’t erase the trauma, but in time might become less painful. What a group of absolute monsters.
@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj
3 ай бұрын
Extremely heartbreaking and very disturbing a grandmother would do something so horrible. Where was the true love for her grandchildren to unalive their mother and Julian who was also a mother of 4. May these two mothers rest in peace.
@LisaFerguson-lw8il
3 ай бұрын
@@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj My mother is an outstanding grandmother. Her door is open to all of them. She is adored by all. She makes their favourite cakes and dinners.
@barbarajeanbraceletlady3090
3 ай бұрын
All losers, and there will be Justice for Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley.
@Lancewolfnaion
3 ай бұрын
thiS crazy but I'm used to it because of old crimes like Ted Bundy and John Wayne gacie and the night stalker Richard and btk . Others I seen alot of serial killer.young people don't understand how evil can get .evil been around Long time
@jamiecooper5127
3 ай бұрын
This is so senseless and tragic! I feel so bad for the children. Shame on them all!
@Betsys707
3 ай бұрын
Wrangler KNEW about the plan! His own grandmother told police that he had mentioned it to her. His mom had told Wrangler that they were going to “take out Veronica“ at the drop off. He told his own grandmother who later told police. Wrangler said the conversation never happened, but whose own grandmother would lie like that?
@LisaP-pd6nq
3 ай бұрын
It’s documented that granny Tifany threatened to shoot Wrangler in the head. He’s not on her side. She also set him up for the felony with a gun possession charges that sent him to jail. Wrangler had full custody at that point and her goal was always to keep the children.
@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj
3 ай бұрын
Agree with you. He knew. I absolutely find it suspicious that he went to court order rehab one day before his mother went on her shopping spree. The following week this action took place.
@patedwards8844
3 ай бұрын
Who's own grandmother would kill their mom? Yea.
@LisaP-pd6nq
3 ай бұрын
Tifany Adams would
@astridgalactic9336
3 ай бұрын
No wonder Wrangler is so screwed up, with a mother like that.
@blackwidor
3 ай бұрын
5 and not one said this is a bad idea! Omg . Thanks G and 🐻
@MyWildPeople
3 ай бұрын
No one will ever convince me that wrangler did not know what his mother was up to. I hope they never give them kids to him. What a shame.
@ToriJeffries
3 ай бұрын
I'm legally blind,so in order for me to read texts on paper or on screen I have to be very close,and zoom in still!! So I want to say thank you so much for your bullet-style presentations!!! It easier for me to see and you leave up long enough to zoom in and read! Thanks 💕
@Colorista_1
3 ай бұрын
This case is so disturbing. Thanks for the update Gisela. You always have all of the details!
@kamhart
3 ай бұрын
The jury pool is SCARED of the 5 , esp Grandma!! It needs to be moved to another county!!
@LG-rescues
3 ай бұрын
Don't forget about the other 2 children. Their parents are in jail, but they have still lost their parents. The 16 year old girl and her 20 year old brother. Both helped with turning their parents into the law. SAD FOR ALL INVOLVED 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔
@KjSaidSo
3 ай бұрын
I get one person going along with crazy grandma but 4???? Ty for the wonderful updates!
@deborahpoole9710
3 ай бұрын
Yes. What did she have on them or threaten for them to do this?!
@user-jz6gb2jt2y
3 ай бұрын
Wisconsin here I love the way you do all your videos. Thank you G. Someone like children's services need to be fired, they never help these children!
@janetmurphy8319
3 ай бұрын
Prayers and strength to the family! This is just horrifying!
@nancym5814
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the visual aids. For those of us with audio disabilities it's very much appreciated! ❤
@SiiriK83
3 ай бұрын
This case is crazy!
@suzanneoc1963
3 ай бұрын
This is beyond senseless and horrific!! I couldn’t watch any of this without you G and my other Grizzlies ❤
@onthecasejeannie
3 ай бұрын
Gisela you are almost at 300k!! Amazing. This OG is so proud of you! ❤❤❤
@marystilwell9312
3 ай бұрын
In a small county, in a poor state, this is a HUGE expense to have to go through all the proceedings of an extended trial. I am not sure WHY someone who confessed to a brutal premeditated murder of two people thinks she has a right to a “Fair” trial. They ALL participated. The only reason for a trial is for them to try to get off the death penalty and try to get deals. The medical study is to make sure they cannot claim insanity as a defense. WHICH I bet they try to do. Tiffany thinks she is soo much smarter than anyone else so I bet her brain is spinning trying to manipulate herself out of this.
@Not_Squirrel
3 ай бұрын
G - TY for staying on top of this for all the 🐻. I live in KS and this is on every newscast. Yours is better.
@louwandmaker
3 ай бұрын
Melbourne/Naarm Australia here. These poor mamas and their poor children. This is horrific.
@starry-eyedlovestoned4225
3 ай бұрын
Not only is this a death penalty case with 5 defendants, which makes it media bait alone, but I don't think too many women here in the U.S. actually get the death penalty either. Triple whammy!
@anitagendler3812
3 ай бұрын
So sad for the children! 😢 Thanks G for the update! ❤
@debbiecotner679
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Gisela. I have been watching your work and you do a fantastic job.
@tanyamushaney2743
3 ай бұрын
First red flag. She named her kid "wrangler." That crazy goes way back.
@vcarr32126
3 ай бұрын
Very sad events!
@nancymoon-rush2888
3 ай бұрын
Not sure if I agree with the gag order but the jury pool is small there. Ohhh NOW ms Adams believes in the constitution? Those poor kids. Their lives forever changed because of these awful people
@Surge_LaChance
3 ай бұрын
I was behind the times with this case, so I appreciate the thorough update. 👍
@ksb4ha
3 ай бұрын
That’s going to be crazy to have all five in the courtroom together!!😮
@helene1779
3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Gisela! 💕🐻This is so sad!❤️🙏🏼
@marleneclarke5785
3 ай бұрын
Wow what an "evil" mother-in-law to say the least 🙄
@palmirareisrocha
3 ай бұрын
One of the worst things of some people is acting as owning others. Our kids are not property... in this case, children became without mothers because of that. It's unbelievable!!!
@BillyClough-eg6dw
3 ай бұрын
TEXAS HERE, HELLO 🤗
@TracyGonglik
3 ай бұрын
Thank You Gisela, all the content and live streams, I do replay most of the time. A member for a few months, Find myself only watching your channel for current stories in the news and updates on older cases.❤
@franceslynch8815
3 ай бұрын
I believe the 5 suspects lived under the assumption they could do anything they wanted to anyone who dare cross their path. They lived very content and comfortable mafia style lifestyles for most of their lives. Their downfall was believing they were gods because they were treated like gods in their hometown. People don't act like this for such lenghty periods without collusion and willfull blindness from those who could have made changes in their town.
@LyndasDiamonds
3 ай бұрын
Watching from North East Kansas
@suegoforth1770
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for all work you do you’re amazing
@ChickadeesRaven
3 ай бұрын
I don't think Wrangler and Veronica were ever married.
@leehofmantumch
3 ай бұрын
I didn’t hear of this. Ex detective of 17 years. Now in Friesland… hi 👋 🇳🇱
@janetklumper6048
3 ай бұрын
I come from Friesland in The Netherlands, now living in Spain
@OldSoul279
3 ай бұрын
What a crappy birthday anniversary for the little girl😢
@lenniepelich4080
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the update Gisela. You work so hard. ❤
@lenniepelich4080
3 ай бұрын
@bamakat8531
3 ай бұрын
Kouri Richins was back in court yesterday also trying to get out on bond and I haven't heard the outcome of her case yet
@wendyredd9890
3 ай бұрын
Thanks G for your hard work 💜
@anneliekerremans71
3 ай бұрын
Hello everyone , I agree G. 💯especially with this case ❤
@wiolettaaaj
3 ай бұрын
Hello 👋 to everyone
@BeckyinKC
3 ай бұрын
From Kansas City, MO USA
@police123cd
3 ай бұрын
Catching this really late..Thank you for all your amazing hard work! 🐕❤🐈⬛🐾🐾🐻
@Tru_Crime_Addict
3 ай бұрын
Watching replay. Thank you Gisela ❤️🐻 True Crime Addict
@webstercarole5
3 ай бұрын
St Helens uk I think it makes people to want to know more and that fuels things so thank you for all you do and keeping us informed not just on this case but all cases well done you deserve lots of praise ❤
@police123cd
3 ай бұрын
Pennsylvania here. Have a great weekend Gisela and Grizzlies ❤❤
@cinnabee5751
3 ай бұрын
Good Morning
@janhill2079
3 ай бұрын
I'm in England...Interesting that the gag order can include documents already issued. How can they possibly police that
@terriclark5417
3 ай бұрын
Good morning
@MsPatti1606
3 ай бұрын
Oh My Word "G" 293K Wow.....A bit of good news around all this horror. Thanks for all you do xxxx
@jeannievanniekerk1527
3 ай бұрын
Hello Gisela Mr Grizzly fury and willow hope you well.😊❤ Oh my goodness
@sylviamorales5494
3 ай бұрын
Hi I’m in San Francisco California
@jacqiuesullivan2906
3 ай бұрын
Praying for the two families for the loss 💔💔
@thesearchfortruth1219
3 ай бұрын
This is a sad sad situation and your doing an amazing job I've known 3 of these folks most of my life and I'm so broken hearted
@GrizzlyTrueCrime
3 ай бұрын
Oh wow. I'm so sorry. This must be a shock 😱 and over a custody battle?! If you'd like to share any additional info with me, my email address is grizzlytruecrime@gmail.com
@MHP_LLc
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Griz! Love your channel, and I appreciate you keeping eyes on this case. I've been sucked into the black hole that is Karen Reads innocence. I don't want these women forgotten. The Vile 5, leave God out of it!
@janetklumper6048
3 ай бұрын
Hi everybody
@robmcmullen9192
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for all of your hard work creating this video, G! You are very welcome for your coffee support comment! Justice for Veronica and Jilian!
@elizeleroux6388
3 ай бұрын
This was a very cruel evil crime done , in the most horrific way , and the escort Kelly Veronica was hoping to be her saviour, went to the grave with her.
@Bintkeziah
3 ай бұрын
💜ThanQ for all your hard work, @Grizzly True Crime 💜
@jdwilmoth
3 ай бұрын
And you're right Oklahoma doesn't allow cameras in the courtroom we don't turn it into a circus but I'm sure there will be a change of venue on this case more than likely it will be moved to Oklahoma county
@deborahpoole9710
3 ай бұрын
It needs to be moved because these criminals have lots of connections!
@Lancewolfnaion
3 ай бұрын
I'm from Toledo Ohio.
@wannabetrucker7475
3 ай бұрын
I would bet these 5 are just the tip of the iceberg....I have very hard feelings about these antigov types, not to mention that they're psychopaths. And yes, I lived in Oklahoma, met good people but bumped up against creeps like this from time to time
@Marloc2420
3 ай бұрын
I live in Minnesota 🇺🇸
@gerimartin6558
3 ай бұрын
You do excellent research. Please weigh in on the Karen Read case, as it currently on trial. So much evidence based reasonable doubt in this wild case! Thanks. Also, appreciate your Mica Miller case coverage!
@beckyanguiano3632
3 ай бұрын
Kyle, Texas
@deborahpoole9710
3 ай бұрын
Watching from Wisconsin 💥
@tannerrinker5499
3 ай бұрын
Clayton NM about an hour 45 away from there. Graduated at Yarborough 2010. My uncle was a history teacher and the basketball coach there. Veronica was one of the last people to visit me before I moved out of the area for 10 years.
@kimcrandell8487
3 ай бұрын
What a scary looking bunch.
@hettiebaker2101
3 ай бұрын
Hello from South Africa ❤
@jacqiuesullivan2906
3 ай бұрын
Hi Liverpool Uk
@kale_xo
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering these cases with such grace ❤ I pray for justice for these women, their children and families. This is Oklahoma and they will for sure reap what they sow. We don’t take too kindly to these types of heinous crimes in this state. Our judicial system will make sure that they are punished to the fullest extent of the law. Please don’t let these evil lowlifes represent all Oklahomans. This really is a wonderful place to have been raised and to now raise my own children (minus the weather sometimes🌪️) Also, Oklahoma does allow cameras in the courtroom. It’s just left up to the individual judge. In fact, 47 out of the 50 US states allow cameras in court. Only Mississippi, South Dakota, DC and Indiana have completely banned them.
@loveisthekey5737
3 ай бұрын
Great police work!💯
@SassyBear_
3 ай бұрын
I am patron and member. I love it all. You're the bestest. Oh I live in upstate NY. Away from the mayhem. Thank God. Love ❤️ and hugs 🫂
@karinerasmus2644
3 ай бұрын
South Africa 🇿🇦
@SallyePeterman
3 ай бұрын
I admire your honesty
@police123cd
3 ай бұрын
You have the best true crime channel! I'm proud to be a Grizzly!
@laurahouger6752
3 ай бұрын
Fairbanks Alaska!
@deborahpoole9710
3 ай бұрын
Since this custody dispute had been going on for years(2021) and the granny was hostile and worse to Veronica I can’t help wondering why a man/police didn’t accompany them, and why didn’t they meet in a public place for the exchange? Anyone have any ideas about this?
@jeannievanniekerk1527
3 ай бұрын
I am From RSA Durban 😊
@katep23
3 ай бұрын
Just wondering, did I miss it, or do we know where the kids were at the time all this happened and who was minding them? Poor things. Also, I am wondering how they claim to be indigent, when I thought they were rich?
@JoanPeaden-kx7wr
3 ай бұрын
They were staying at another couple’s home. Tiffany picked them up around noon the day of the murders. There name is mentioned in some articles but I can’t remember it now.
@katep23
3 ай бұрын
@@JoanPeaden-kx7wr Thank you for that info. 🐻🐻
@KIKISEYES
3 ай бұрын
Well how'd that work out for Her oh I guess she's in prison now she don't have them at all
@MetalRaven1982
3 ай бұрын
Thx 4 covering this story. I haven’t heard much about it on the news. I’m a new subscriber after watching ur coverage on Sarah Boone🤘🏼😎 * I’m from the US…
@PamRDuvall
3 ай бұрын
Greetings G❤ Guam girl here🌴🌺🇬🇺
@TMann-eg1gi
3 ай бұрын
Interesting that the defendants want to be together in the courtroom during trial. Two brothers, Reginald and Jonathan Carr, brutally murdered five people in Wichita, Kansas in 2000. They have been appealing their death sentences ever since, arguing that they should not have been tried and sentenced together.
@jeannievanniekerk1527
3 ай бұрын
And I ❤ Grizzly true crime since the sad case of Gannon.😢
@elixrays
3 ай бұрын
New account, old grizzly. I've been caught up in the karen read trial and have missed a bunch of shows! (Bad grizzly) buut I'm trying to catch up and just want to say, your hair right now is on point! Lookin' good
@happycamper9421
3 ай бұрын
Recently I was surprised to hear (on a different podcast) that it was Jillian's car and she was driving.
@maridambrosio523
3 ай бұрын
Monsters!!
@ta3629
3 ай бұрын
You da best🎉🎉🎉
@texasrefugee7888
3 ай бұрын
Law of Stupidity #5-Stupid people are more dangerous than criminals. Carlos Cipolla
@deborahpoole9710
3 ай бұрын
These monsters have obviously gotten away with other crimes in the past or why would they think they would get away this time?
@patriciacomaduran9378
3 ай бұрын
Diary, here is a calendar
@kat4479
3 ай бұрын
Triple homicide recently in Chickasha, OK. Mayhugh has confessed to killing his family and had plans to do more harm.
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