"Less strain on the joints." As he reps 405 on incline bench. 💀💀💀
@JPIQQG
Жыл бұрын
Imagine the weight he would be pressing if he went to failure and would not do as many sets or rested over minute between sets🤯
@R3TROSKULL
Жыл бұрын
You dropped this 💉
@yodamaster757
Жыл бұрын
@@JPIQQG - He said in an interview that it wasn’t 405
@YouEatBabies1911
Жыл бұрын
@@R3TROSKULL That is literally the most irrelevant comment I’ve ever seen today
@milesshaw1590
Жыл бұрын
Just 3 plates
@wigletron2846
Жыл бұрын
I think that's the first time I've ever heard someone say incline was easier on their shoulders.
@Yoitsbobbyboy
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it depends on the person I know people who can’t stand incline because it hurts their shoulders but I feel for me it’s significantly more comfortable on my shoulders than flat bench.
@stin35
Жыл бұрын
My shoulders die on incline barbell but incline dumbell is fine.
@john_m3619
Жыл бұрын
@@stin35 try using a close grip. Also way better in terms of upper chest activation
@oremilosavljevic309
Жыл бұрын
Every kind of bench works fine for me... Those who have a problem with shoulders shouldn’t have super wide grip
@stin35
Жыл бұрын
@@oremilosavljevic309 yeah man i have very long arms so i cant do close grip
@ajaymalik4473
Жыл бұрын
He chose his spotter such that he knows its life or death situation if anything goes wrong
@JPIQQG
Жыл бұрын
Knowing Jays training style the spotter doesnt really matter. My man did a fuck ton of sets short of failure with small rest time.
@jabbadabba1978
Жыл бұрын
Jay is in such control of the weight he could easily dump it from side to side on his own even, at failure. Novice.
@TheBoon14
Жыл бұрын
@@jabbadabba1978 he could easily dump a plate with 405 on the bar?? Lmao okay buddy
@jabbadabba1978
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBoon14 without question. Pal.
@Eli-jk7yp
Жыл бұрын
@@TheBoon14 he did more than 10 reps with those 405 and he didn't reach failure. I bet he can throw it on the floor infront of him if he fails.
@horvathszilveszter
Жыл бұрын
4 plates and it looks like he’s doing it in a machine. Incredible control.
@HerculesFit
Жыл бұрын
The ease at which he presses 405 is wild 💪
@pretty_flaco
Жыл бұрын
his spotter alone shows that 315 aint shit🧐
@big_ron3585
Жыл бұрын
Jay was a lot stronger than he actually lifted but he’s a clever guy and that’s why he’s still in good health/shape now.
@claybowman1242
Жыл бұрын
If incline press was the standard we would see way more developed upper pecs, the flat barbell bench is great but slight incline dumbbell may be the true king of chest hypertrophy.
@mikearonson1071
5 ай бұрын
Yes. If you are able to have that range of motion. The stretch on the muscle would be greater. I unfortunately can't due to shoulder injuries. I can do full ROM but not past that.
@stevearchuleta3640
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your advice….I’m a 55 year old man getting back into muscle training
@williamcolon9280
Жыл бұрын
Give em hell
@JustTryingToYoutube
Жыл бұрын
I would consider looking into TRT could have many benefits to your physical and mental performance but also will allow you to build muscle properly as test levels go downwards after 40ish
@grandjunctionguy
Жыл бұрын
I'd suggest you stick with dumbbells for the best shoulder mobility as well
@stevearchuleta3640
Жыл бұрын
@@grandjunctionguy thanks…. I’ll take any advice… I’ve lifted before but this time I’m very serious about this…
@sergeantbigmac
Жыл бұрын
Good for you man and good luck. My Dad is 58 and ive seen his fitness+health rapidly decline in recent years. I know he is not gonna be as strong as he used to be but I wish he'd take better care of himself! He has kinda just given up on working out at a time where its probably the most important for his longevity. I dont know how to motivate him, hes never listened to me in my whole life and he prob wont start now lol
@SchwarzSchwertkampfer
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the hardest, thanks my man for the motivation💜💜💜
His spotter is like: *”bro, if you fail a rep you’re on your own “*
@MeatPez
Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. I always felt much more comfortable in an incline press as far as shoulder strain.
@vr2k8
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, always do incline rather than flat.
@mharo1992
9 ай бұрын
do both
@pedroveliz4131
Жыл бұрын
Straight to the point! Thanks jay for sharing the valuable information,we appreciate you! God bless y’all!
@timothyramponi6921
Жыл бұрын
Information like this is why Jay's the 🐐!!
@Pitbull14218
Жыл бұрын
I feel soo much more comfortable flat benching. Incline I also take it easier as I worry more about my shoulders vs flat.
@brandino9000
Жыл бұрын
Opposite for me lol
@Pitbull14218
Жыл бұрын
@Slimothy James how do you train your chest?
@Wishmaster787
Жыл бұрын
@Slimothy James Flat bench with barbell is only necessary for powerlifting meets. If you're just looking to build muscle and get stronger you won't be penalised much for avoiding barbell flat bench.
@Mrbobcat7
8 ай бұрын
Same here. Inclines bother my rotator cuffs, but I have always had lagging upper pecs. I have found machine inclines are more comfortable to me. I prefer declines over flat too and always did flat or decline before incline because I could use more weight thinking it would lead to more mass, but thinking of doing inclines first to try to hit the upper chest harder.
@jimmy_olds
9 ай бұрын
Years ago decline tore my rotator cuff with an audible pop, and was barely able to re-rack the bar. I pretty much only do dumbbells these days, if not on a machine. Just recently started watching some of these guys on YT and now focus on incline bench.
@bananagun6598
Жыл бұрын
fax on incline i feel more shoulder muscles working but less shoulder joint stress
@oomenacka
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone has finally voiced this opinion because I have felt this way for a long time. Flat bench was the source of my shoulder impingement and after 5 months in PT my physical therapist concluded that incline bench is just objectively safer for my shoulders. I'm now of the opinion that unless you're a powerlifter, flat bench can honestly be replaced with chest press machines, push ups, and the like, and you will find amazing results with significantly less cost. If you wanna build your chest, you don't have to rely on the bench, especially if it's hurting you.
@Reaper1808
Жыл бұрын
Has tour shoulder impingement gone away? I have the same problem with flat bench
@oomenacka
Жыл бұрын
@@Reaper1808 It has healed up tremendously but it's taken more than a half a year to be able to flat bench again. To this day it's pretty much the only exercise that really strains my shoulders regardless of grip width, foot placement, or arch. I think some body types just don't work well with benching
@Enokha
Жыл бұрын
interesting, what did you do to rehab your impingement?
@oomenacka
Жыл бұрын
@@Enokha A myriad of stretching and strengthening techniques, a lot of needling, and importantly a ton of time away from overhead lifts and especially bench. A big problem for me was overreliace on and a disproportionate development of my delts compared to my rotator cuff muscles so I spent a lot of time strengthening the rotator cuffs and carefully perfecting my form on every other exercise. It was pretty humbling to stop lifting so needlessly heavy and focus more on what my body was telling me. To this day it never 100% healed and the occasional small twinges of pain serve as ego-checks to be careful and respect my body.
@Notyourhandle777
Жыл бұрын
Bro 💯
@BigstickNick
Жыл бұрын
I like to do just one notch up on the bench sometimes. Seems to be a good sweet spot
@kylemcmeekin2988
Жыл бұрын
4 plates incline bench oh my. Jay still looking great even now man is JACKED!!!! Great content from a legend.
@thomasgumersell9607
Жыл бұрын
Great video I only do incline st bar bench. A flat bench I save for my Dumbell Pullovers, plus some dumbell flyes. I'm 56 yrs old and have trained for 40 yrs. Really enjoy your video and advice. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@It_is_in_you
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the incline bench is also my first choice. I feel the chest better with that. And I can see the difference. I combine incline bench press (more for upper chest) with dips (lower chest).
@frzmtl3849
Жыл бұрын
I noticed the reduced pain in shoulder for incline. Dropped the flat completely.
@marcludwick5941
8 ай бұрын
I agree on less strain on shoulder joint during incline. Flat bench has always made my shoulders feel uncomfortable compared to incline. I think theres more drain on the shoulders, during incline, but less strain.
@GJ-DT
Жыл бұрын
Exact opposite for me, incline and front shoulder press absolutely kills my shoulders. I go all out on flat bench and behind the head shoulder press and my shoulders feel great.
@wigletron2846
Жыл бұрын
Same here. Some people just have a different shoulder structure.
@JOHNPT10
Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day do what works for you and you comfort level
@GJ-DT
Жыл бұрын
@@JOHNPT10 exactly
@sioux685
Жыл бұрын
He's talking about the shoulder joint (including ligaments, socket etc) not the shoulder muscle. .the shoulder muscle he says is being used more during the incline
@ludlowbuckley5373
Жыл бұрын
Icnline kills your shoulders but behind the neck shoulder press doesn’t? 🤔 lol
@jodycameron-roy2544
26 күн бұрын
Good to see that Sean Ray's coinage "comfortability" is still alive and well
@aronmaslan6604
Жыл бұрын
"When you wake up in the morning, I believe going to the bathroom and then taking a shower is a great way to start the day." Jay Cutler 2023
@VeinyDickTracy
Жыл бұрын
Mike O’Tren disagrees with Jay and he wants to instruct Jay on what he does in the morning to start the day.
@novelaego2404
Жыл бұрын
lol
@R_A_3000
Жыл бұрын
Yep gotta do those two things in the morning or else it's gonna be a bad day. 😁
@jdog7797
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully in that order. 😊
@rodolfofarfan6589
Жыл бұрын
And this why Jay is great condition for his age after all his hard training! Respect!
@jdog7797
Жыл бұрын
No one ever talls about the wrists handling all this weight like a total boss. They never get the credit that they deserve, it's wild to think about.
@ImproveTodayy
Жыл бұрын
I always prioritize the upper chest, it's helped a lot with my chest's aesthetic in general.
@bigboy0625
Жыл бұрын
Love the old school training videos of you Jay they where and are still the best always made me laugh when your Wife(girlfriend) used to help you spot 😂👍🇳🇿
@edwardbanta4114
Жыл бұрын
Yo Jay keep posting 👍👍👍👍👍right on point !!!
@jesusplol
Жыл бұрын
Can confirm that it's easier for me to do go up to 225 on an incline bench rather than a flat bench
@TeutobergForestryService
Жыл бұрын
Jay is repping 4 plates on incline. His shoulder joints are made of diamond.
@okaynope5197
Жыл бұрын
Literally he said the opposite while he was competing. I don't know what to think anymore.
@drew9759
Жыл бұрын
Incline is so underrated.
@samsungsmiley1
Жыл бұрын
Interesting that he says that, because I feel like im the opposite. I strain my shoulders every time I incorporate incline push movements for a prolonged period of time.
@warwickscram1656
Жыл бұрын
Same flat bench feels way nicer on my shoulders.
@alexzander1839
Жыл бұрын
Anything above a 25 degree incline bench shifts the focus to the front delts.
@EliHank
11 күн бұрын
His spotter for that 315 Incline Bench 😂
@AronHallan
Жыл бұрын
Jay quad stomp Cuttler, absolute legend!.
@nihalatk4296
11 ай бұрын
Incline barbell press and flat Dumbell press ❤
@1ondonbet.137
10 ай бұрын
Props to him for letting a woman spot him😅
@VPROXE-HELLRAISER
Жыл бұрын
Wow this natty looks amazing 😜
@G1980s
Жыл бұрын
Kneeling landmine press works great on the upper pecs and helps create that defined look.
@corie_1032
Жыл бұрын
Jay Cutler could've passed for an adult film star back then 😂
@Jacob-jg6cd
2 ай бұрын
It’s kind of incredible that most bodybuilders agree that the incline bench is better than the flat bench for chest hypertrophy training yet most people seem to automatically assume that the flat bench is the best exercise for the chest.
@Fight_Fit_Nation
Жыл бұрын
He is right, flat bench will put more "painful" strain on your front delts, kind of the Arnold press behind the head, or the lat pulldown behind the head.
@adamp6118
Жыл бұрын
"Comfortability"
@mattfillman1182
Жыл бұрын
The pectoralis major is 2/3 of the pec muscle, incline bench presses are a must.
@diegoconchas8354
Жыл бұрын
Actually worked for me, I had shoulder pain on bench press and incline no longer have it
@nicksvlogcastchannel361
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see in the comments I wasn't the only one dumbfounded by the less strain on the joints comment for incline bench. I have a very respectable flat bench strength but struggle to up weight on incline only because my shoulders feel terrible doing incline. Interesting he feels different. Do agree though that its an area people struggle with and it is super important physique wise.
@knine9178
Жыл бұрын
"Less strain on the joints." I'm calling cap on that, I've injured my rotator cuff more times on incline than I ever did on flat bench. I don't think I ever injured my rotator cuff on flat bench actually.
@Dainamight
Жыл бұрын
Ngl that female spotter is grabbing the bar too much lol
@plusxz821
Жыл бұрын
what is she gonna do if the bar falls
@AS-Stardust
Жыл бұрын
@@plusxz821 Practically no person is going to be able to do much at all if the bar dropped from his hands.
@SiLoMixMaster
6 ай бұрын
@@plusxz821 Scream for help
@detachedloop1004
Жыл бұрын
This might have been said taking into consideration that everyone tries to hit PRs on flat benches and no one really cares about weight on the inclines
@Pirustae
Жыл бұрын
Nah, I feel safer doing the regular flat press
@antisocialstoner5887
Жыл бұрын
Huge fan Jay and I'm loving your content💯
@A9I4Q6Y5R2NC
Жыл бұрын
i was literally thinking of making the switch to flat bench on tomorrows push day but after reading yalls comments i think me & my rotator cuffs are happy on the incline 💀
@setonhunt1981
Жыл бұрын
Reverse grip bench is good for upper chest. Incline bench is a no go if you have long arms
@tranhaola3638
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, Could you make a video tell about pain in training : shoulder pain, neck pain, knee pain, lower back pain, elbow pain,ankle pain, thoracic spine... And how to avoid, how to recover. Thanks
@kevinm7523
Жыл бұрын
I've always found I can go heavier on incline as well
@CAUGHT_U_LACKIN
Жыл бұрын
I actually incline more challenging so that’s why I’ve used that over the flat Bench
@MrTraveller.
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay💯 Priceless information
@northernpatriot
Жыл бұрын
I have dislocated my left shoulder. Flat gives me alot of sharp pain and issues. The incline is not a problem.
@davidolatunji119
Жыл бұрын
Decline press is my favorite and feels best on my shoulders
@petercsigo3314
Жыл бұрын
Incline bench press definitely not safer
@Zakzattak
Жыл бұрын
Incline ruined my shoulders I'm pretty certain
@jerrelbruce6579
Жыл бұрын
I've been doing this for years. I haven't done flat for awhile
@AZ-gs6hj
Жыл бұрын
I feel the same. Flat BB feels horrible on the shoulders for me especially when going heavy. Incline feels amazing. Dumbbell flat is good though.
@GatherYeRosebudsWhileYeMay
Жыл бұрын
Jay cutlers chest advice isnt for everyone. But I will admit everything he says in regards to chest works 100 for me. I think I have the same problems as he did when it comes to chest development
@SJRogers0786
Жыл бұрын
Incline bench > flat bench
@bluelightingwolf85
8 ай бұрын
I say do both incline Bench Press and Flat Bench Press, I would start with shoulder press with dumbbells and seated rows with dumbbells as you get older need to your back strong, pectoral and shoulder injury and rotor cuff three years not working yesterday I ended that , I feel been then ever my first working out again 1 st of year January to December 31st start strong and finished strong I feel motivated to be a better person and positive everyday 😊😊😊😊 I will be working out five a week and Saturday and Sunday off, I'm ready for excellence , happy New Year's week.
@rgfit2712
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips bro 💪
@omarazami7377
Жыл бұрын
As a wannabe powerlifter……who am I to argue with Jay F’n Cutler? Gonna try incorporating more incline movements.
@AlarmingExit
Жыл бұрын
I always hit my 5x5 flat, then hit my 3x10 with different inclines. Throw in some dips at the end and your chest is screaming after.
@jarrodkunjka
Жыл бұрын
LegitNess 💪🏻 try your incline low for optimal upper engagement
@itzmasterz
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate the incline bench because there’s very few racks that allow you to do the movement without a spotter. I know I have to do it, and I am doing it, I just don’t like it. I have no issue with flat bench or military press, but picking up the weight for incline has always been a really awkward movement for me.
@Howard007
5 ай бұрын
Worst spotter grabbing the bar so much when he’s still repping it out
@alilifting2289
Жыл бұрын
I love both but I burn out my chest with incline better
@LuisSantos-vm9ce
Жыл бұрын
"More of the shoulders" yeah, my left one would agree😅
@Beeman2892
Жыл бұрын
I can agree and dorian yates can agree. DORIAN 6X MR O never did flat bench press
@marloncosey1190
Жыл бұрын
THANX JAY… I WILL NOW DO MORE INCLINE BENCH TO WORK ON CHEST..(upper chest)…
@trancemadmaz
Жыл бұрын
He has the greatest American voice in history 😂
@bagofsoup8199
Жыл бұрын
This is true, after my ac injury I can rep 225 for more on incline than I can on flat
@knowledgeispower36
Жыл бұрын
I stopped doing flat bench a while ago because it would hurt my elbows for some reason , even when I would adjust my form and grip and once I switched to incline between two different positions it would engage my chest way more and it's way more comfortable
@Gainsforlife
Жыл бұрын
Stability/imbalance issue
@edgarbolden5742
Жыл бұрын
The King of the Incline Press
@jCrItCh5
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if that birds gonna manage that wieght if it goes
@aarongruber2978
Жыл бұрын
Chest is really the hardest workout to get a mind muscle connection but once you really learn how to engage it ur g
@nathanxs7001
Жыл бұрын
For me it was back
@wheelbarrow23
Жыл бұрын
Man back and legs are hard for me. Tbh I can't even do it with my legs. I just push heavy ass weight on squats and hope I can get it for 5 or 8.
@MC-nt7jz
Жыл бұрын
i got huge back and legs and chest is the hardest for me to grow properly
@johndo3760
10 ай бұрын
Nah chest is easy just do dips , lats is hard though
@strongsick2866
8 ай бұрын
I always felt incline press worked better for me I am just not good at benchpress I can get more muscle involved in the incline and decline barbell press but for flys and dumbell bench press the flat bench works best for me .
@nunninkav
Жыл бұрын
Incline actually KILLS my shoulders.
@martysonn
Жыл бұрын
It's like when teacher asks u a question and u don't know the answer
@حاتمالزهراني-ط9ش
3 ай бұрын
the conclusion is : that the Incline bench press is a little bit more safer for shoulder joints
@marloncosey8744
10 ай бұрын
YO BIG BRUTHA JAY… I LIKE HOW YOU DO THE INCLINE PRESS AT A 30* DEGREE SETTING TO EMPHASIZE CHEST SND SHOULDERS I AM GOING TO PUT THAT IN MY PULL WORKOUT REGIMEN… THANX DAWG👊🏿💯🙏🏿
@maestreworldwyde
Жыл бұрын
incline press applies more pressure on the shoulders its worse for the joints angle is more damaging sorry to say 😅
@holzmlb
Жыл бұрын
I always like incline in hs, the guys who brought there ass two feet off the flat bench couldnt do that on incline and there weights level dropped but since i never lift my but off the bench my incline was always way better than theres
@RedCandleWax24
Жыл бұрын
Jay’s barbell pressing comes in very high on the chest. Essentially clavicle, like a guillotine press. Quite extraordinary and will definitely pump the chest as long as the shoulders remain externally rotated to avoid discomfort.
@ryanherrera6357
7 ай бұрын
315 405 on incline is madness!
@omarrthaHanafi
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay!!!
@zacharygreene1979
Жыл бұрын
I agree, incline is the way to go
@thouveninvijayan3073
Жыл бұрын
You want to work your upper pecs ? Do lateral shrugs on a low pulley.
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