I love this guy's flight reviews. No nonsense and straight to the important points. Devoid of sales pitchy type phrases n sentiments.
@DavidDavid-jb1cy
4 жыл бұрын
@Agent J Is St. Lewis nearby St. Louis?
@hogey74
4 жыл бұрын
Watch his St Barts landing one.
@tropicthndr
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, the only reviews that mean anything. Turned the Mooney Ultra exaggerated hype nonsense into reality, the plane that still can’t carry anything.
@The-KP
2 жыл бұрын
He's got one of the best jobs in the world.
@jm08a31
4 жыл бұрын
Such a sleek plane. Always a fan of AvWeb videos.
@terryjones9784
3 жыл бұрын
jm08a: such a sleek plane the plane: 03:16
@Heatherder
3 жыл бұрын
@@terryjones9784 I don't get it. You don't like the cowl fairings?
@darrylwbraun
3 жыл бұрын
There is no more trustworthy a reviewer than Paul Bertorelli. You hear that AVweb? Keep this guy!
@12sin8
4 жыл бұрын
😮 It's been so long that I had given up on this plane! I hope they eventually revive the electric version they were originally planning.
@TecnamTwin
2 ай бұрын
Agreed! Looking forward to the next generation of electric aircraft finally arriving.
@immortaljatt05
4 жыл бұрын
7:35 Paul is killing me with his comedy lol XD
@esquisito83
4 жыл бұрын
Great start for the day. Mike Patey posted a new video and Bertorelli reviewed the Panthera
@regressmenot
4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft but what stood out for me in this video was the DA50 fuel burn. 9 GPH at 181 kts... Wow!
@FrankDyke
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, that strikes me as the future there: fixed gear, 180 kts w/ a fuel burn like an Arrow and buying Jet A instead of 100 LL, I think Diamond has a winner for flight schools and a whole lot of GA.
@tropicthndr
4 жыл бұрын
Yea great accept the wingspan on the DA50rg is so wide it hogs the other parking spots on either side of the plane and also won’t fit inside a standard T hangar because of the width.
@regressmenot
4 жыл бұрын
@@tropicthndr Interesting, I wasn't aware of that.
@altergreenhorn
4 жыл бұрын
Its diesel and Pipistrel have all ready a hybrid and full elictric plane in owen. BTW first choice for panthera engine was also in 9 GPH range unfortaly supplier did not want to certificate it for a car gasoline which was for pipistrel as global company a vital option they were forced to change the engine .
@ictpilot
4 жыл бұрын
@@tropicthndr The new ones I believe have winglets. I think it will fit in a standard hanger now.
@AceCombatFan
4 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with all the measures they took to reduce the drag. Plane looking pretty cool as well. Very good video!
@chrism3872
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Bertorelli - I like your style! Excellent and fair review of a work in progress....
@rigilchrist
4 жыл бұрын
After all the years of sitting in it at Friedrichshafen, it's terrific to see you flying it. I enjoyed just sitting in it!
@CyberSystemOverload
4 жыл бұрын
The best aviation presenter! Paul rules, totally no-nonsense, says it like it is. More of his reviews please! As for the plane , it needs a 850shp turboprop.
@karlsandin4515
4 жыл бұрын
AeroNevin that’s what a TBM Is for haha
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
wrónge
@thomasanderson7454
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! I’d love to buy one under 500k. So many of us have been following it’s development for years, I wouldn’t be surprised if the backlog for certified aircraft gets to be several years with high dealer premiums. In any case it is a beautiful breath of fresh air for GA!
@ThomasGrillo
4 жыл бұрын
That's one gorgeous looking plane. The cockpit reminds me of the F-111's cockpit canopy. Thanks for sharing this.
@mikeryan6277
3 жыл бұрын
2021 hasn’t been much better.
@richardwylie07
4 жыл бұрын
This is the plane I've been waiting for... and the Epic. Finally they are both here!!
@speedomars
4 жыл бұрын
Neither is unique or will sell. The Epic is millions...this plane is a weak version of a Cirrus SR22 non turbo.
@richardwylie07
4 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars How could you possibly know what is affordable to me or what my preferred mission is? Just because you have a view... doesn't mean its the right one... or even worth hearing.
@tropicthndr
4 жыл бұрын
I bet it’s not the price you’ve been waiting for, you can get “two Piper Mirages” on Controller for what they want. Bet your Girlfriend would want a plane with executive cabin class interior with walk in stairs instead of this pipistrel overpriced toy.
@richardwylie07
4 жыл бұрын
tropicthndr Wife actually. All the best to you!!
@giorgiokolaj2192
4 жыл бұрын
B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L airplane! I'm heading out to play the lotto.
@jamesburns2232
4 жыл бұрын
Hope you win the lottery son you can buy two Panthera's and give me one too!
@Adam-ie8ed
3 жыл бұрын
lol same
@videosforcatsanddogs214
3 жыл бұрын
Might as well buy Bitcoin at this time haha
@terrancestodolka4829
2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see modern aircraft of the 21 century!
@leifhall2289
4 жыл бұрын
Thou I really like the IO-540 I regret that they had to choose it. I had two of them in the old PA-23 from the 1960's that I used to have. An aeroplane like the Panthera, shurly deserves a more modern power-plant!
@tropicthndr
4 жыл бұрын
Being an experimental class plane, you should be able to order the power plant of your choice instead of a lame ass factory engine. Something from “Pinnacle” without turbos could easily push this plane past the 200knot mark.
@superduper1917
3 жыл бұрын
HD playback options are increased. Nice!
@imagineaworld
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the well wishes at the end paul. We need it badly.
@VonSpud
4 жыл бұрын
Looks great ...
@mountainmandale1587
3 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful machine!!! I know what I want when I grow up!!!
@rosworld9129
3 жыл бұрын
“Any other options?” Wtf! That thing is like a starship!... especially compared to the 777 I fly for a living😂
@generalrendar7290
4 жыл бұрын
This has been my dream "I won the lottery!" plane for years.
@jomomma8754
4 жыл бұрын
Mechanics are going to love pulling that cooling shroud off
@swiper1818
4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a beautiful and highly competent aircraft - interested how it finally pans out!
@JohnBaileyDarke
3 жыл бұрын
A very kind review, especially considering that center post and glare shield gloss over as something you can get used to through "some adaptation". Note that even fighter jets take exception to the "frontal drag" by putting the pilot in a position that allows for a complete and unencumbered view in all directions, especially straight ahead whether flying or moving around the airport. The gear doors (all 11 of them) are an impressive engineering feat. The manufacturers attention to detail in reducing drag is great, but not having speed brakes along with a relatively slow 106 knot gear down speed is going to present significant pilot challenges in slowing down without shock cooling that Lycoming up front. The aircrafts profile is clearly impressive. Sleek and smooth. But the trade offs in ingress and egress, forward visibility and flying at such an inclined position may not sit well with owners who care more about these factors than ramp appeal. Dissipating all the heat generated during a climb out was noted in the review. Perhaps also a result of placing too much emphasis on sleekness and not enough on practicalities.
@MattMorris481
4 жыл бұрын
I live in Inverness didn’t think avweb would have a reason to come here.
@purbanjalidas6449
3 жыл бұрын
love this ❤️panthera.. beautiful aircraft!
@savethedeveloper
4 жыл бұрын
Another unaffordable aircraft. Keep 'em coming
@safetyinstructor
4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I understand aircraft are expensive but this is so expensive (good config.) some people won't be able to pay this off in their lifetime.
@chrism3872
4 жыл бұрын
I think being made of Carbon fiber and Kevlar with a large engine and very nice avionics is what drives the price, not to mention retractable gear. "Sophistication" is expensive, relatively speaking.
@RichWellner
4 жыл бұрын
Cirrus are more and are, by far, the best selling planes in the class.
@oppopooop3058
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Easy to follow and understand. Thank you
@alfredos.5988
4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@andreschapero3615
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review..... Brilliant !
@monsenrm
3 жыл бұрын
What do you wanna bet this turns out to be a million dollar airplane after certification?
@FloridaFlying
4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I agree, it is one of the best looking planes on the market today
@quepasacharlestoncharlesto2782
3 жыл бұрын
Earn your sport pilot license in 10hrs
@hogey74
4 жыл бұрын
OK it's Friday arvo where I am and it's half past drinks o'clock. So maybe it's not completely outlandish that when I saw the headline and that Bertorelli was doing the long-awaited review... I got a good feeling about this one!
@brianb5594
4 жыл бұрын
Sweet ride and great review as always Paul! The challenge will be ramp up on certified maintenance shops and dealer network where Cirrus is the king. Cirrus has 20 year head start as well but hopefully these guys can be competitive. If I had the coin to buy one of these I would get a used SR2-G3 for a lot less with AC and TKS, and no I don’t work for Cirrus. 😊
@spiro5327
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Paul, thank you. As far as 2020 being almost over, well we might be in for more of the same next year.
@zapfanzapfan
2 жыл бұрын
2022 isn't exactly better either...
@classicraceruk1337
4 жыл бұрын
Very informative report, thanks for doing this
@jrstuckey1471
2 жыл бұрын
I gotta meet Paul this year coming.
@harryagrotis326
2 жыл бұрын
Great review !!!
@Big.Ron1
3 жыл бұрын
I am pretty well sold on the DA-50 with intentions to own a DA-62 in a few years. However I think this airplane will deserve a close look if they can get it to market anytime soon. Thank you and be safe.
@scotabot7826
2 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Bird Dog thank you! Ha Ha.. Great video of a sleek airplane!
@pilotdane1
4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, I don't think the price is that bad - Being as a brand new Cessna 172 SP - Nicely equipped is well over $400,000 - Which blows my mind.... being honest....
@tropicthndr
4 жыл бұрын
No it’s Lunacy and makes no sense for what they are trying to ask for this plane. You can get a Piper Mirage on Controller with “very low time” for half the price, the Mirage is twice the plane in capability with private jet cabin class interior. That means you can get “”two Mirages”” for the price Pipistrel is trying to get for their certified version. It’s just dumb beyond all reasoning, maybe they think all those ridiculous gear doors make it worth it, such a joke.
@christianjforbes
4 жыл бұрын
The more I see these new aircraft prices, the more an RV10 looks like a bargain. Or a nice vintage Bonanza is even cheaper.
@pilotdane1
4 жыл бұрын
@@christianjforbes I know right... I probably should have worded my reply above better - bottom line, when a brand new Cessna 172SP is well over $400,000 - it sure is keeping most of us out of being able to afford what should be a 30k airplane....
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
giid plane orice cénnsa is
@ARyanCoke
9 ай бұрын
@@tropicthndryeah makes no sense. You can get 4 viruses for this price. Sure the virus is 40 knots slower but come on. Who would pay 300000 for 40 knots. Go get a Ravin 500 for half the price and get a +2000 nm range.
@philipgledhill7227
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant buddy what a outstanding plane. It looks amazing buddy. Would love to fly it phil. Happy new year to you buddy and good luck for the rest of the year phil. 👍2021.
@CharlieBIV
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!!!!!!!!
@hogey74
3 жыл бұрын
Back to watch this again in March 2021. Just wishing Tine was giving the run down...
@dtoften
4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for more efficiency in nm/lb due to the amount of work & time that Pipistrel has placed into this airplane. As for cost, Pipistrel is usually cheaper than traditional airplanes but the delays & engine change have increased this. I don't know if this will be a good seller based on the info presented.
@altergreenhorn
4 жыл бұрын
They changed engine because supplier did not want to certificate it for a car gasoline. That is a main reason for almost 2 year delaying and cause a slightly less fuel efficiency
@speedomars
4 жыл бұрын
What Pipistrel is cheaper? They are all priced at the market level for their niche.
@bikersoncall
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful plane!
@HugAviation
4 жыл бұрын
Great review and nice voice crack at 16:25 😉
@rocktakesover
4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a list of these. That would be pretty hilarious of you did.
@kylehelmke2066
4 жыл бұрын
Slap a TAE engine in it, FADEC, FIKI, and you’ve just won the market.
@v.e.7236
4 жыл бұрын
Is this your own code? What does it all mean?
@AClark-gs5gl
3 жыл бұрын
@@v.e.7236 its greek...
@quidestnunc9238
3 жыл бұрын
I know FADEC & FIKI. What is TAE ? Oh, wait, I know ! Technological As Eggplant ! (I bet you subscribed as a child to SI (rather than Sports Illustrated...magazine.) 👦👩
@KTWardlaw
3 жыл бұрын
Good review! Been to that Airport!😎👍
@airgliderz
4 жыл бұрын
Great honest review of a great plane. They need to fix the cooling issue at power climbing. With all that carbon it should be much lighter.
@jsteiger2228
4 жыл бұрын
God it's gorgeous.
@CarterHancock
4 жыл бұрын
Almost $700k airplanes still can't have any kind of anti-ice? Given that price with all those pretty avionics just waiting to fly in IMC, I don't understand why it's so difficult to add a couple of what are basically seat heaters to the leading edge surfaces. GA has always struck me as trying to be safe in IMC, then taking little precautions against ice other than "don't fly in it" which is super unhelpful IMO. Rant over lol.
@flantc
4 жыл бұрын
This is partial what killed the Cessna 400 (aka the Columbia 400 / aka Cessna TTx Model T240). It had an optional anti icing system that was not rated for flight into known icing conditions. It eventually got a true anti icing TKS system as an option in 2014 but Cirrus had too much momentum by the time Cessna added it. At least the Panthera has a BRS which the Cessna 400 never had.
@CarterHancock
4 жыл бұрын
@@flantc I remember hearing about that. That's another issue I have, if you're gonna put on anti-icing, why do it half-assed? Make those leading edges hot as hell and melt it all off. I may not be an engineer but the fact it's such a huge killer in aviation with a simple solution that isn't implemented baffles me.
@ictpilot
4 жыл бұрын
@@flantc Keep the chute, give me the extra useful load and weight savings.
@tropicthndr
4 жыл бұрын
@@ictpilot I used to say that until coming head on into idiots flying the wrong way at uncontrolled airports not using their radios in the pattern. It’s not about engine failure, it’s about hitting that loser in the pattern going the wrong way close to the ground.
@ictpilot
4 жыл бұрын
@@tropicthndr I'll still take it without the chute. Can't get rid of all risk in flying.
@jamesm6830
4 жыл бұрын
1:03 Looks like an angry aeroplane version of Thomas the Tank Engine
@jeff2235
2 жыл бұрын
That's a slick airplane- I guess we're supposed to like it, but I don't like the high temp. of the engine heads while climbing and I don't like it's obstructed visibility.
@evidenceplz
4 жыл бұрын
AvWeb is a legend
@stalinkoba3366
3 жыл бұрын
The plane is certainly above all praise! I wonder if it is used as a sightseeing tourist, does the wing interfere with admiring the view?
@Ashwin-zg7rt
4 жыл бұрын
So beautiful. Hope to own one and fly it someday
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
hief haß it
@danielforde-pogson
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Always learning something new...like how the heck do you design a new prop? Clever stuff.
@venusreena2532
3 жыл бұрын
Paul details this plane very well.. Turbo diesel in the Panthera would be nice too
@ShuRugal
4 жыл бұрын
I can see from the performance numbers, parachute, and fuel economy that they are aiming to take a bite out of Cirrus's market. If they could knock 30% off that price, they might even do it. It's been my experience that most people who have Cirrus money don't care how much fuel it burns. It will definitely knock a chunk out of Mooney's market share, though, which makes me a little sad. Mooney was the original leader of the "maximum bang for buck" trend - the fact that my 1964 C model will cruise at 145 KTAS on 8-9 GPH while nothing certified, even brand new, today even comes close to that shows how well they succeeded... shame they have not chosen to capitalize on that position.
@speedomars
4 жыл бұрын
This plane is positioned to go after the Cirrus SR22 non turbo. It won't sell more than a hundred copies.
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
wrong
@ShuRugal
Жыл бұрын
@@sharonbraselton4302 wrong
@garrygballard8914
4 жыл бұрын
How about a review of JBM’s VL3 ?
@tropicthndr
4 жыл бұрын
Yea that plane is cool but the Rotax engine is just dumb with all the extra water cooling stupidity and gear reduction nonsense and no power. It would have hit it out of the park with a UL power six cyl engine.
@xsifax
3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go see it in a couple of weeks
@BK-it6te
3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained well done so clever, what you do for living?
@abhishekdev258
2 жыл бұрын
BMW of general aviation.
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
wrong flyibg çars cheaper
@rudranathtalukdar3196
3 жыл бұрын
I sat in it but didn’t fly it. It’s a beautiful plane but hard to get into and out of the front seats and the baggage compartment is shaped for form, not function
@PenAirPilot
4 жыл бұрын
:) mmmmmm I loved that Pawnee taxiing by.... Even though she's missing a few parts, that Metroliner sure looked sleek and nice ; Oh.. that expensive piston in the front of the frame is ok too.... ;)
@milesj6064
4 жыл бұрын
that is a nice airplane, but at the 3:30 mark the Metro in the background is the airplane from our company being scrapped, interesting to see a airplane from Canada in this video. But back to the Pipistrel hope to see it certified soon
@neomatrix3612
3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous
@nalamobil
3 жыл бұрын
Continental CD300 would be amazing in this.
@brookrestall3274
3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Paul. Thank you, sir. Volume seems a bit lower than usual though. Lower than all other vids I've watched today anyway. Just FYI.
@Jetairplane
4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft with an advanced cockpit and airfoil design, but still burns 100LL.
@halllwd94
3 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping they Hybrid Engine hits strong. It'll be used enough for me to buy once I'm looking at buying a plane
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
buy it
@swim2kill
3 жыл бұрын
Damn that's a beautiful plane. The interior is very cool
@andrewallason4530
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the Panthera with decent speed (around 300-330kn) and range (1700nm) worthy of it’s appearance. It is a gorgeous airframe, but it let down by it’s actual capabilities.
@electoplater
4 жыл бұрын
whats the lightning protection on it
@Swaggerlot
2 жыл бұрын
I still have the hots for the Bellanca Viking; just think what they could have done with composites on that aircraft. Never retract gear until there is insufficient runway remaining.
@buckstarchaser2376
3 жыл бұрын
I'll take mine with a "Dime Slime" green paintjob please. It will look nice on my Far Above Drivers tour.
@jeremyvi
4 жыл бұрын
They should have worked harder on the logo, the panthera, remind me this sportswear logo seen on every summer t-shirts...
@ABC-rh7zc
4 жыл бұрын
Just curious - where do you find all the performance data of other planes? Is there a decent database somewhere? Or do you have to collect and crunch these numbers manually?
@AVweb
4 жыл бұрын
They're estimates from the POHs, which we have a collection of.
@ABC-rh7zc
4 жыл бұрын
@@AVweb Thanks
@samjackson9440
2 жыл бұрын
@@AVweb Is there a value for the volume of the luggage compartment
@RiXFortuna
2 жыл бұрын
What if the propeller blades were longer?
@MrDitrih1
3 жыл бұрын
Очень интересно и информативно! Спасибо!
@jekanyika
4 жыл бұрын
I hope you do a video on the Celera 500L at some point.
@glsracer
4 жыл бұрын
Especially since it's rumored to sell for around $500k. Most aircraft seem to be overpriced because they are ultraluxury items and don't take advantage of economies of scale. LSA was supposed to get us back into reasonable price territories but unfortunately that hasn't happened yet.
@speedomars
4 жыл бұрын
@@glsracer Aircraft cost what they cost. They are handmade and will NEVER gain econ of scale because a few hundred of the best selling one (Cirrus) are made each year.
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
buy it
@DanielPierce
3 жыл бұрын
You can get an EA500 VLJ for that price, I so wish modern aircraft were affordable…
@MidnightMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
They nicknamed this plane as the "Mooney killer". If this thing had the Continental TSIO-550 like the Acclaim Ultra has, it would've been. Having just a NA Lycoming, it's just not going to have the climbing power like a turbocharged engine will, maybe in the near future they might consider a turbo engine choice. Possibly a turbo Diesel if they're feeling especially adventurous.
@speedomars
4 жыл бұрын
Mooney is dead. There need be no Mooney killer.
@PilotDaveLI
4 жыл бұрын
It's gorgeous. But such a small number of the already small number of pilots can afford any new plane it's too bad. Hopefully someone can enjoy it. I'm stuck in my 1970 Cardinal. 😁
@charliegreen5781
2 жыл бұрын
What's with Pipistrel's model's names, "Sinus", "Virus". What's next the "Plague"? Beautiful aircraft though.
@oisiaa
3 жыл бұрын
I'll wait for a turbo version.
@Beetwate305
Жыл бұрын
What kind of pilot license is require to fly this?
@Domenick_Y
4 жыл бұрын
Want to see an electric version of this.
@magnacarter6223
4 жыл бұрын
IDK
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
chief has eltric
@inferno8428
3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how soft field performance is going to look like?
@nicowilson8032
3 жыл бұрын
wow what am amazing plane
@susansticazsky9787
Жыл бұрын
Any news on certification?
@Dzordzikk
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can I ask you what is that NACA hole at the end of wing tip? What is reason for that? Thank you.
@daviejay5326
3 жыл бұрын
Wow they finally made it! What a fantastic looking offering, and itll run on 93! Guess you better factor in the cost of a pickup truck with fuel tank in the bed to ferry fuel back n forth 😆
@sharonbraselton4302
Жыл бұрын
buy hybrude truck
@triedproven9908
4 жыл бұрын
They need to redesign the cowlings and add a turbo, my guess is they couldn't keep the temps down without sacrificing power. Certainly for the price it should be over 300hp. Other than that and visibility this is a fantastic bird.
@nannyg666
4 жыл бұрын
Novice question; It wouldn't seem very hard or expensive to put a little camera pointed forward somewhere under the prop, wired to the main instrument display screen, with a button on the stick that toggles between views. Let the button up, you see instrument readings - push the button, you get to see what's in front and slightly below you that you can't see otherwise without a lot of messing around.
@speedomars
4 жыл бұрын
No need. The extra weight is wasted.
@speedomars
3 жыл бұрын
@@511aboy Not the point. Putting a camera behind the prop would be destroyed on the first taxi trip. I have an infrared camera under a wing used for night landings but I have never used it. Also notice no aircraft, even the big boy Boeings, Citations and military aircraft do not make use of such camera mounts. Why? They just are not needed.
@speedomars
3 жыл бұрын
@@511aboy The original question was why not stick a camera behind the prop on GA planes. Cameras are stuck under wings all the time for recording flights, I do it myself on my Cirrus. But sticking a camera behind the prop as a permanent fixture is nonsense and would likely not withstand the prop wash and debris occasionally picked up by the prop. As I said, I have an infrared camera mounted permanently under a wing but I never use it, it is intended for night flying use thru clouds and landing.
@Rico11b
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful plane for sure. Sadly though I don't care for the view over the nose. It appeared VERY minimal in the video. Maybe if they lowered the top of the dash a few inches and brought the glass down a few inches further that might help.
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