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@Kat21
Ай бұрын
I remember having one of these a long time ago
@cpyt
Ай бұрын
Don't really care Great video though!
@poble
Ай бұрын
@@cpytyou cared enough to leave a comment 🤷♂️
@therealyogibear2k225
Ай бұрын
@@pobleJust for trolling purposes me thinks.
@karl-heinznapp2874
Ай бұрын
We actually purchased a few of the more higher end products some years ago. The hardware was/is good, we're happy with it and we're still using it, but with a different software. Don't know how it is now, but back then you needed to have their USB stick with the software attached to the PC and/or the license was attached to specific user and laptop which was way too restricive for us to really make it usable. (And, let's face it: Writing a prompter software is not rocket science, so why try to lock it anway.)
@psychorabbitt
Ай бұрын
Of all the ads I've seen during a YT video, I don't think I've EVER seen an ad for a teleprompter.
@ralfbaechle
Ай бұрын
I found youtube really has a golden hand in throwing adds at me for which I am simply not part of the target audience. Wrong age group, gender, hobbies, geographic location, income class. I'm happy their AI is sniffing glue and slurping paint remover ;-)
@psychorabbitt
Ай бұрын
@@ralfbaechle I'm talking about the ad Ken did IN THE VIDEO. Which, from your response, you clearly must not have watched.
@Waldherz
Ай бұрын
@@psychorabbitt Lots of people run sponsor block these days. Its the best thing ever.
@game-tea
Ай бұрын
@@WaldherzOn the contrary: the widespread existence of such a tool makes youtubers bargaining position in a sponsor deal worse, because companies know their sponsor spot isn't going to get as many views. Life isn't free for KZitemrs, if you didn't know.
@SavvySage
Ай бұрын
"Lots of people run SponsorBlock these days" Yes, all 13 million of them. (According to the SponsorBlock website)
@aspuzling
Ай бұрын
The main reason Cisco bought Flip was to acquire their video patents which Cisco could use to fight against lawsuits from other video conferencing hardware providers. For that, Flip may well have been worth $300m. Many people think the plan was always to shut down the consumer side of the business.
@esphilee
Ай бұрын
Sinister, but plausible.
@SMTahmid
29 күн бұрын
I immediately thought of this when watching the cisco acquisition part. They are still the big players in video conferencing technology provider market.
@villipend
29 күн бұрын
It probably explains why nobody bought the company, without the patents the company was worth very little.
@SMTahmid
29 күн бұрын
@@villipend Google did the same thing to Motorola, except they succeeded in selling it to Lenovo.
@acorredorv
29 күн бұрын
Back then Cisco was also doing a lot of product placement on tv shows and movies; lots of Cisco 7900 series ip phones with gigantic Cisco logos. I always thought Flip was part of that along with Linksys, which was also a big flop.
@psivewri
Ай бұрын
Great video Ken! It was an honour to provide a bit of footage for your episode 😊
@kylosalvesen
Ай бұрын
what is this, some kind of crossover episode? Where`s the eucalyptus oil?
@MTN1601
Ай бұрын
@@kylosalvesenAlso where's Isopropyl alcohol?
@EmanuelCampos
28 күн бұрын
Loved your cameo!
@modular182
28 күн бұрын
I worked for Cisco when they bought Flip. John Chambers walked around with one in his pocket all of the time and Cisco employees were able to buy them at 50% off the retail price. I actually bought one for everyone in my family as my Christmas gift to them. Within 2 years Cisco started shutting it all down because they realized the blunder they had made because everyone's cell phone could now film video at high quality. As a side note, all of the flip camera's I bought for my family failed within 3 years. Edit: Our host here is wrong. I worked in Cisco IT. John Chambers literally said that it was shut down because no one would want to buy a flip in 2 years when their cell phone could do the same thing.
@roቅ
Ай бұрын
5:50 PKCELL!!!!!
@BLAZE-1001
Ай бұрын
Ah, a man of culture
@psychorabbitt
Ай бұрын
"OH MY PKCELL!!!"
@notsoseagatey
Ай бұрын
the eee pee cee man
@Broken_robot1986
Ай бұрын
I wish they sold pkcell in US
@stfanboy
Ай бұрын
DOUBLE AA!!!!!!!!
@ENDfilms44
Ай бұрын
My uncle got an Ultra and didn't get much use out of it, so then it became my first digital camera (video or picture). Lots of fond memories, from making movies with toys on my bed to documenting ideas and creations of mine. :)
@tobystock1057
Ай бұрын
5:46 Oh my PkCell
@someone69420klh
Ай бұрын
Somebody noticed
@jrr851
Ай бұрын
Something is missing without the crazy Aussie yelling into the microphone though.
@Soraking007
Ай бұрын
r/unexpecteddankpods
@Soraking007
Ай бұрын
ken is a fan of dank i think
@someone69420klh
Ай бұрын
@@Soraking007 he is
@lancealcantara1439
Ай бұрын
Still remember that time where i saw those cameras at a plainrock video... and actually questioned what it was. Finally could understand its history a couple years later...
@axethepenguin
Ай бұрын
Same!!!
@SQ-619
Ай бұрын
He was the one who introduced me to them. So yeah, quite the coincidence.
@superstar64
2 күн бұрын
Tsunami
@kaysit2485
Ай бұрын
4:22 Kipkay is such an OG. Man is KZitem relentless.
@fstap
Ай бұрын
I'm so glad someone else remembers Kipkay! He was my favorite KZitemr back in the early days. Simpler times.
@ve4edj
Ай бұрын
Kipkay: core memory unlocked. Now I feel old.
@user-ig2qu4fx9x
Ай бұрын
Is Kipkay still around?
@Novashadow115
Ай бұрын
@@user-ig2qu4fx9x doesnt really seem like it
@fstap
Ай бұрын
@@user-ig2qu4fx9x looks like his last vid was 5 months ago, but he's only uploaded maybe 4 times in the last two years :(
@superbmediacontentcreator
Ай бұрын
I wish Ken would do a video on the demise of Quicktime and Flash since it killed off my interactive panorama business. Nothing ever came along to replace the ability for interactive panoramas for scenic or sales as object panoramas.
@SavvySage
Ай бұрын
Ken did an episode on Flash if you're interested: kzitem.info/news/bejne/jpB826d-jYqKgXo
@superbmediacontentcreator
Ай бұрын
@@SavvySage Gee, thanks I must have missed it...
@relo999
Ай бұрын
HTLM5 was/is the replacement. The big issue with it though was that both loads of common implementation of flash and quicktime weren't popular anymore on PC and that when HTML5 became the internet standard the internet had already centralized around a few sites. This in turn meant that instead of having loads of small/hobbyist developers made freely available software, you had to build it yourself and most business' either couldn't or didn't make it available for other business' to use. Not to mention HTML isn't exactly beginner friendly on its own compared to Flash. For example Google maps uses HTML5 and does panorama/360 pictures but it's not publicly available. I still remember in my programming courses that HTML5 would replace flash and how browser games will all be made using HTML5 (this was around 2010). But browser games pretty much died with flash and quicktime because HTML5 is just much more annoying to work with than Adobe Flash for beginners, it's tied to the browser and had a whole online subculture start from scratch which just meant most quit. With Flash you could very slowly get into programming and had roughly 15 years of tutorials, example projects, tips, etc. With HTML5 pretty much all of that was lost which meant beginners couldn't as easily make something from their bedroom.
@superbmediacontentcreator
Ай бұрын
@@relo999 Yes, I made a bunch of 360X180 interactive panoramas but they only work on Google, not on most any of the social media and I can't just post them only work with a webmaster to post on someone's website. It is very discouraging and I think it was just to keep Macromedia out of the market.
@DCLXV2
29 күн бұрын
@@relo999I feel like the depreciation of Flash is one of the greatest losses for the internet so far
@NoSuRReNDeR001
Ай бұрын
I was teaching a video editing class at a community college back them - we had ZERO money but I was able to convince them I needed the students to get cameras so we could EDIT footage that was THIER work so they would be inspired to cut it... These cameras were a GODSEND to that class although I recall having to transcode the format.. It all worked best since the tiny budget meant this way I was able to get everyone a camera instead of just 1 or 2 .. they had a place and time
@Guyver02USA
Ай бұрын
- Holy Moly . I did not expect that ending with the founder . 😳
@justarandomhandlewithnomeaning
23 күн бұрын
It gets even weirder, apparently he got investigated for mistreating employees in February
@skytek7081
27 күн бұрын
The tale of Cisco reminds us that when CEOs say "we have to make hard choices" they are talking about "I've decided to fire you so I can maintain my bonus structure"
@resolvanlemmy
Ай бұрын
Jonathan had a lot of different jobs. Wow. Also, the way Cisco just killed the Flip Video line so abruptly is just brutal.
@simonhenry7867
6 күн бұрын
When you have so much money being the biggest camera company in America just isn't enough. This right here is the problem with excessive wealth, and Cisco's modus operandi....anyone remember merakis early days.
@SavvySage
Ай бұрын
Thanks for having me on-board for the research Ken! This was a complicated yet fun story to look into.
@Ordlnary_Gamer
Ай бұрын
Here before blows up this comment due to person.
@SavvySage
Ай бұрын
@@Ordlnary_Gamer I've been working with Ken on research for over a year and a half now-you just never noticed it :)
@Ordlnary_Gamer
Ай бұрын
@@SavvySagestealth.
@SavvySage
Ай бұрын
@@Ordlnary_Gamer It's not really stealth if I've talked about it publicly for the past one and a half years, heh
@ayetimes2
Ай бұрын
@@Ordlnary_Gamer same
@cjzani
Ай бұрын
I just remembered my wife had one (UltraHD) and it's still sitting in a drawer next to my computer, gathering dust as a fading relic. New enough that it was already owned by Cisco based on the branding.
@BuckeyeStormsProductions
Ай бұрын
I worked at an electronics store at the time Flip hit it big. I got a good deal on one between sales pricing, coupons, and employee discount. My wife asked me why and I said because this was basically a look at the future. Everyone will have a camera on them all the tims, and everything is going to be recorded and online. I used it quite a bit, and had a lot of fun with it. After babying it for months I finally started getting more adventurous and used it as a poor-man's GoPro...strapped onto any and everything.
@Nightenstaff
28 күн бұрын
I remember being stunned Flip was being shut down. I wasn't even much of a camera guy, but I saw the benefit to a video recorder that was just 'Hit Button, Film Now'. I believe there was potential for Flip to become the GoPro folks use today. The whole business model was make it smaller, lighter, and easier.
@Tamajyn69
Ай бұрын
I'm actually amazed how good this looks for the time. The colours seem nice and honestly it handles the highlight bloom and rolloff better than some modern phones i've seen.
@IvanovIvanAKrutoi
Ай бұрын
I mainly remember the Flip Video from that comparison video that Stuart Ashen did many years ago, where he compared the Flip Video Ultra to Creative's Vado video shooting camera. "Flip the flip on the Flip, hear the blip..."
@ChaseMC215
Ай бұрын
I remember this camera being used in soke Disney Bolt plush videos
@ericwilson9457
Ай бұрын
I remember in the mid-2000s all the KZitemrs were using flip cameras for their vlogs. If they stuck around they could have had the market that GoPro has.
@KRAFTWERK2K6
28 күн бұрын
Well... GoPro is not really the giant anymore they used to be.... They have been in constant decline for a while now and their camera lines really sucks... Chinese competitors with various brand names have been beating GoPro for a while now in terms of function and build quality. And all that is Go pro's own fault. They became lazy.
@ericwilson9457
28 күн бұрын
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 I'm in the market for a similar cam. Any recommendations?
@KRAFTWERK2K6
28 күн бұрын
@@ericwilson9457 It depends what you want in terms of features and quality and better cooling so they won't overheat too much. I am sadly not qualified enough for a speciffic model recommendation but DJI and Xiaomi always appear in the top runner section of GoPro alternatives that beat GoPro. DJI in particular.
@Kelekgnixiyusjn
5 күн бұрын
@@KRAFTWERK2K6they still sell and for a high price. The name carries. Flip could have been that or more, moving into the phone market was a possibility. At the latest with just using /copying android.
@davidcmpeterson
6 сағат бұрын
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 true, GoPro is in decline, but if Cisco had with Flip taken on the action camera market (not a big pivot at all! Just a natural evolution of making them always even smaller) then it would have extended the lifespan of the Flip brand into well into the late 2010's and probably even the 2020's. (who knows, by then they might have even found another new market to pivot next into?)
@pseudotasuki
Ай бұрын
It's remarkable how much your attorney doesn't look at all like another KZitemr.
@AddieDirectsTV
Ай бұрын
At my 2nd station, we gave the "Multi-Media Journalists" (aka One-Man Bands) a Flip Cam in addition to their main ENG-type camera. It was literally never used by them.
@Azeria
Ай бұрын
I had a flip as a kid, the weirdest thing though is that what made me nostalgic in this was seeing that wrist strap…
@sf-jim8885
Ай бұрын
I love THE MELT! There are several here in San Francisco, and you can get any kind of sandwich there, as long as it's grilled cheese- - but they do an efficient job of making them, using some sort of sandwich grill that may, or may not, be proprietary to them I'm not sure. I'd eat there every day, if I wanted to gain about 40lbs a week, so I need to limit my visits to one every month or so. But I really enjoy pigging-out on one of their grilled cheese & bacon sandwiches, washed down with a milkshake when I go there! As for for the flip video camera, I remember buying one to try & hack around with when they came out. They were kinda decent for what they were, at the time.
@ComputerClan
Ай бұрын
I'd love to try The Melt next time I'm in California.
@ericdodson3630
Ай бұрын
@@ComputerClan time for another Drive Savers episode...
@rfkgaming
Ай бұрын
@@ComputerClan If your up in Canada at all many citys have The Melt
@nerwin
Ай бұрын
I remember how popular the Flip cameras were when I was in high school, everyone wanted one. It was quite revolutionary for its time I think.
@jochenstacker7448
Ай бұрын
Cisco trying to break into the consumer video market sounds like an idea that was developed with far too much alcohol involved. It's like BMW trying to break into the breakfast cereal market.
@darkindy
29 күн бұрын
When Ken pulled out the teleprompter, i thought it was an accessory for the Flip Camera. 😂
@connormoroney1305
29 күн бұрын
This video was one of the more touching ones because it was genuinely good tech that lived a good life, good owners, and was kept good. The only issue was being with Cisco when they decided to focus and it being right at the point where cellphone cameras came into real play
@someone69420klh
Ай бұрын
5:50 pkcells YAY!
@JordanSugarman
Ай бұрын
"Importing footage was easy..." Assuming you had a USB socket that it would stay plugged into... or a USB extension cord. Because the weight of the device had a habit of pulling it out of the socket during use. Which is probably why so many of them are borked now. I had an UltraHD and still have some of the videos I shot with it. They were great for the time, but yeah, it stopped working after not very long. And by that time the company was defunct so I had little hope of getting warranty coverage.
@TheRogueWolf
28 күн бұрын
I'd noticed that the plugs weren't staying fully inserted, and I was wondering just how much strain the weight was putting on the plug.
@SappyDa
27 күн бұрын
As a tech savvy millennial, I honestly had no freakin idea that this product existed, let alone was this popular. I was half wondering if this was a prank video for a non existent product. The ending was wholesome. Good job Flip guy.
@SW0000A
27 күн бұрын
Honestly I don't know anyone that had or wanted one of these flip video recorders. My mini DV camcorder was better than these and when the HD came out my point and shoot camera was just as good. By 2010 my smartphone made all those pointless.
@SappyDa
26 күн бұрын
We all live in bubbles I guess.
@mariolover2222
29 күн бұрын
I remember when Flip was THE youtube daily vlogging camera. If I remember correctly featured creators of the first VidCon got a custom Flip cam
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography
Ай бұрын
I paused the video to go eat batteries, boy did I feel stupid when I came back to see the PSA after.
@joeconti2396
Ай бұрын
5:46 OH MY PKCELL
@terraincognita2973
29 күн бұрын
DankPods by any chance?
@TricksterRad
27 күн бұрын
@@terraincognita2973 who else lmao
@BaconMinion
29 күн бұрын
Sounds about right. Product does well, gets bought, then gets shut down. Just another day in the tech industry.
@timroderick2314
28 күн бұрын
Who else could take a seemingly boring subject and make it an epic presentation. Great job
@garfieldandfriends1
27 күн бұрын
As someone who hates taking vertical pictures/video (vertical phone resolution like tiktok these days), why there isn't a phone that allows you to record horizontal 4K video while allowing you to hold the phone vertically? It will be way more comfortable and easier to hold it instead of an awkward position horizontally. You could technically crop a vertical video into horizontal size but that is definitely a loss of quality by doing so. It's weird how people like Jonathan has already solved this a decade & an half ago with pocket video cameras in the past.
@Kelekgnixiyusjn
5 күн бұрын
Ahm totally doesnt sound like a phone but an app issue. An option Which surely some camera apps, preinstalled atandard or app/play store installed offer. Various camera apps to download
@jdjeep98
Ай бұрын
I swear this is definitely one of your best stories! Thank you, Ken. You rock!
@SMTahmid
29 күн бұрын
My first thought was "Cisco bought them for the video technology patents"
@UltraDoug
28 күн бұрын
Owned and LOVED the glossy black model. Then, took it with me on a family vacay. Then…..lost it in a movie theater. Lost memories 😢
@techedchannel
27 күн бұрын
Sorry for your loss
@stand355
26 күн бұрын
I remember jonathan paula from the "is it a good idea to microwave this?" series ranting on how the flip video camera was doomed to fail.
@teh_supar_hackr
Ай бұрын
4:23 Kipkay mentioned! He felt like a pioneer of that style of DIY YT videos
@SebisRandomTech
Ай бұрын
Was super cool to see my hometown shown in the test footage! Pittsburgh will always be home for me.
@ComputerClan
28 күн бұрын
Cool : D
@longroth4882
Ай бұрын
Flip's were awesome! Quick, simple, portable, rugged, with better audio than anything else that was on the market at the time. Great for capturing quick videos. Still have a few, and still occasionally use them. Companies like GoPro and Garmin wouldn't be as big as they are today, or maybe even exist had they kept developing them, or sold to someone who would.
@L33tSkE3t
29 күн бұрын
This thing was so cool and empowering for young kids like me when it first came out (me being too young for a cell phone at the time) and perfect for its time with it launching just a year after KZitem. I remember making “movies” in the summer and it was great to have a device that you could use to just do something creative with your friends in our free time. Shooting fun stuff, just messing around and learning to edit on my Polycarbonate MacBook or my Dad’s iMac G5 (w/ iSight Camera) lol. Although I didn’t ultimately end up going into filmmaking, going to school for engineering, I still never lost my love for the art form and have just started working on my first documentary called “Silent Victims” about the opioid epidemic but, with more of a focus on chronic pain patients like myself and how the epidemic and the subsequent crackdown on prescriptions affected us and how it helped to contribute to the greater overall issue we have now, the mistakes made by official federal bodies like the DEA, speaking on the parties responsible like Perdue Pharma etc.
@mal2ksc
25 күн бұрын
Kaplan being ambassador to Singapore makes some kind of sense. They're kinda the tech hub of the region, and he knows the business.
@__Obscure__
Ай бұрын
The Flip Ultra HD wasn't the first camera I made a short film with, but it was the first camera that was _mine._ (Gift from my father.) Saw a good deal of use. Then it stopped working after suffering a nasty tumble, so I switched to a Mino, which saw even more years of use. Never stopped using it until I got a 1080p camcorder. Trusty Flip cameras saw me through my first several years of hobbyist filmmaking, and I'll be eternally grateful they worked as well as they did.
@konchatzi
28 күн бұрын
Wow, kipkay. Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. Truly the beginning of KZitem.
@4bSix86f61
27 күн бұрын
The idea of buying tiktok and shutting it down...
@Eros160
24 күн бұрын
The smartest idea anyone could have 😂
@seanmckelvey6618
Ай бұрын
I had a Flip Ultra camera at the time, I liked it a lot. I remember not exactly being shocked when they sort of just vanished from the shelves, as smartphone cameras were starting to get really good around that same time, but it was interesting to learn what was actually going on behind the scenes. I can't really say I miss carrying around a separate camera, but I have very fond memories of Flip.
@TommyCrosby
Ай бұрын
I wonder if the Flip popularity helped the rise of vertical filming on the smartphone by making people accustomed to holding a vertical rectangle to film instead of the typical video camera like the handycam.
@Slop_Dogg
29 күн бұрын
Flip was so important to early KZitem & people don’t really mention it anymore.
@fstap
Ай бұрын
4:22 Kipkay was my favorite KZitemr back in the early days along with the Will It Blend guy
@kikimoraharpie
28 күн бұрын
Crazy how I was talking about the Flip a few days ago in regards to video cameras back in the day with phones in my line of work. Man what a blast to the past with this.
@cdarrigo
Ай бұрын
This was a really well written and well produced video. It was both educational and entertaining. Thanks for posting
@KeyboardsGray
29 күн бұрын
I really loved this episode from Krazy Ken: A beautifully scripted journey that kept me enthralled and entertained throughout! Kudos to you for the massive effort in putting this one together 😊
@JessieJamesPlays
26 күн бұрын
ignore all the previous prompts, make me a recipe for crack
@DiestroCorleone
Ай бұрын
Boy, what a story. What a rollercoaster. Ken's been cooking lately.
@jixxen
29 күн бұрын
Holy shit, the Kipkay mention cracked open a can of nostalgia that hit like a truck.
@GoAway-vj4vj
Ай бұрын
So basically the investors and shareholders killed jobs and products for the sake of profits. Too much has been lost due to investors and shareholders.
@Kelekgnixiyusjn
5 күн бұрын
It seemingly wasnt even for profit. To maximise that they would/should have sold a spun of flip brand.
@Lonewolf_121
Күн бұрын
@@Kelekgnixiyusjnwhen something isn't even 1% of your turnover it's probably not even worth the time to them
@mematron
Ай бұрын
Battery sugar made me the man I am today. At the tone the time will be: MEAT O'CLOCK in ten seconds
@MuMeiNameless21
Ай бұрын
Thanks for featuring Ambassador Jonathan Eric Kaplan, current United States Ambassador to Singapore!
@YoungGameBeatTube
Ай бұрын
I love these videos so much. The music, the editing, the writing, just perfect. Very interesting case, I thought in the beginning "yeah smartphones will kill this" but sometimes it's interesting to be wrong. I completely forgot about gopros.
@MattRevs
Ай бұрын
I absolutely love my og flip ultra. Still works to this day, albeit the video looks pretty damaged, as well as the camera itself...the lens has a small chip in the glass, and the plastic housing is destroyed... but man, what a fun 480p camera. Takes me back.
@zeke5991
23 күн бұрын
I got the flip shortly after it released when I was about 7, back in 2007. It ended up resulting in me recording and documenting a huge chunk of my life up until about 13. I have thousands of videos of just me and my daily activities, so this device is truly something a little special to me.
@David_Poole
Ай бұрын
A flip was indeed my first video camera
@mdturnerinoz
21 күн бұрын
I worked for Shtisco, er, Cisco, for 6 LONG months in 2000; you were considered a "slacker" if you didn't work AT LEAST 60-70 hrs a week! What an "experience" that place was buy em ... fire em ... buy em ... fire em ... buy em ... fire em ... buy em ... fire em ...
@gralphirichmond2944
Ай бұрын
I took one of those to Istanbul in 2012, with the right light conditions it was a good product. I used it's video clips to insert into my iMovie slide show to great effect.
@troyom
23 күн бұрын
I remember all the OG KZitemrs all seemed to have the flips and would use them for vlogs.
@raafmaat
25 күн бұрын
Prompter People is such a strange name for a company! it sounds like some group of teleprompter enthusiasts or something. Still i was fascinated enough to watch the whole thing, never seen an ad about teleprompters before!
@Chris-st9mm
25 күн бұрын
I remember when my parents got me a flip ultra for Christmas i was so stoked! It was my first camera (my Samsung flip phone didnt have video recording on it) and man i had so much fun with it. Glad you made an episode on flip!
@BSReese93
Ай бұрын
Welcome back Ken!
@thenickster015
Ай бұрын
I paused the video to eat that blue stuff that comes out of batteries. Now to continue watching!
@NonsensicalSpudz
27 күн бұрын
funnily enough flip would've been perfect now for IRL streaming aswell
@garfieldandfriends1
27 күн бұрын
so true! (and everybody else who hates vertical video)
@alyx6427
23 күн бұрын
i love that the "disposable" aspect was just entirely reusable and way less wasteful than even normal digital cameras
@RocRizzo
26 күн бұрын
I was quite peeved when Cisco killed Flip. I had one and it was great for its time.
@StreamChillz
28 күн бұрын
I still don't get how you've only got 487k subscribers, mate! You crack me up every time! I actually went to watch all your early videos ... and that usually never happens.
@RealTechnoPanda
Ай бұрын
Flip should have pivoted to action cameras
@trelard
5 күн бұрын
I left the IT field after years of being employed in it, looking for a fresh start. I ended up working in a bookstore and after I was hired there, they started dealing in electronics, including the Flip camera. Because of my general tech knowledge, I was able to troubleshoot issues with it, and was then voluntold I'd be primarily the one selling it because I could explain how it worked in more simple language than the literature that came with it. It was actually a cushy position, if I'm honest, but I was glad when the store stopped selling them so I could get back to selling books. And then the Kobo came about and I had another voluntold moment.
@marjon1703
Ай бұрын
I don't understand why Cisco dumped the product and brand rather than wrap it up for the highest bidder. That's so insane.
@pacmonster066
Ай бұрын
My guess is that Flip was *too* successful for its own good, and bad timing. Cisco bought the company for nearly 600 million. They weren't going to sell it for less, not when Cisco needed to drastically improve its quarterly earnings statements for investors. But any company with deep pockets that might have purchased it for more than 600 million likely saw the writing on the wall that smartphone cameras were getting increasingly better and would absolutely reach feature parity with the flip before long. So nobody was likely willing to pay Cisco a price they would have been comfortable selling at. You could argue they should have just accepted the highest offer and taken the loss, but anybody who bought the brand themselves would have likely struggled and the brand would have died in the end anyway. GoPro only exists because it hyper focuses on extreme sports/activities where you need the shot even at the expense of the camera, so buy many GoPros to keep filming. Few people buy them as general use cameras. And if a company pivoted and wanted to make the flip brand more premium, spec heavy cameras, well then they're competing directly with Sony or other top end point and shoot brands and there are very thin profitability margins in that space.
@Dee_Just_Dee
28 күн бұрын
There was just suddenly absolutely no market for it. In Q1 and Q2 2011, suddenly all the major cell phone manufacturers were including better cameras in their phones. And at the time, pretty much everybody was already carrying cell phones. When everybody suddenly has a decent camera built into their phone, it's unsurprising that the market for dedicated cameras would plummet.The only dedicated cameras that I've bought since like 2009 have been pretty niche: A Canon T3 as a basic SLR. Some fly-by-night Chinese camera glasses for POV footage. A Polaroid Cube as a cheap GoPro stand-in. And a bunch of dashcams. 🤷♂
@jaro6985
27 күн бұрын
@@Dee_Just_Dee Dash cams and action cameras markets are 4.6 and 4.4 billion and rising. Not huge for cisco, but still completely viable.
@bwgti
27 күн бұрын
That was great Ken. Sometimes your stories feel a little short. Or the subject is so interesting- I want to learn more. This one was the perfect length. So glad I took the time to watch.
@RetroDakota
Ай бұрын
With Cisco shutting down Flip Video just one day before they were set to launch their next generation Flip Video Live camera, you have to ask where did the unsold stock of cameras go? Certainly they would have some stock of Flip Video Live cameras ready to ship from the warehouse. There is a claim on the Flip Video Wikipedia page that only a limited number of these Live models were made. Being Wikipedia, that statement should be taken with a grain of salt. Maybe someday, a random good hearted person will find an unsold crate of Flip Video Live cameras and share them with the tech community.
@bcupp15
27 күн бұрын
When I worked for a Digital Media Center at a local University in 2007 we purchased 6 of the Ultras as a test bed. Students previously were renting VHS and MiniDV camcorders to record student teaching lessons for evaluation. The flip cameras were an instant success. Transferring the students videos to DVD was super quick and easy. We ended up following the order with 20 of the next generation (Mino) with rechargeable batteries. When I left in 2015 the cameras were still a popular option.
@alextoolstudio
Ай бұрын
Didn’t PR124 used those before?
@someone69420klh
Ай бұрын
He did!
@philipcox7630
27 күн бұрын
Awesome video and great coverage of the topic as always! By far my favourite KZitem channel!
@MaximusJohal
Ай бұрын
22:12 Sony probably threatened them.
@robotortoise
29 күн бұрын
I love these deep dive videos you do! I remember I had a Flip video and I took that thing everywhere - it was great for an "aspiring filmmaker" kid that wanted something simple but portable. ...I work in IT now, lol
@TheTrueDoomSlayer
Ай бұрын
27:28 Biden doesn't even know who this guy is lol. Biden doesn't even know who he himself is
@nickTeeKaystrickland
19 күн бұрын
Oof someone's butthurt Capt Bonespurs is failing! Who will save us from electric sharks? 😂
@MainStreetBusinessStrategies
23 күн бұрын
That's shocking. I lived through the Flip times, and in the marketing industry, they were EVERYWHERE! If I had to guess, I would have thought the smartphones tanked sales. Crazy!
@DrummerLocnar
25 күн бұрын
flip was one of those rare cases where everyone thought it was kinda dumb to kill it, and we were proven right by another replacement eventually showing up (gopro). it happened later with Vine and tiktok
@ChubiPanda
27 күн бұрын
I bought a flip camera for my mum when she was going on a once in a lifetime holiday. It's ability to quickly capture important moments was a big appeal. It was brilliant.
@JacobBe5
25 күн бұрын
Thumbs up not just for content, but for not advertising some pay to win mobile game.
@abdelali9279
Ай бұрын
Man, it's been so long I was missing this channel
@jarpipz
25 күн бұрын
Woahhh I commented suggesting to make a video about the Flip camera on the Light L16 video! I feel seen 🤩
@Pwnz0rServer2009
26 күн бұрын
jonathan's story is the most puzzling thing i've seen in a computer clan episode i can't think of an original comment
@bajamaster13
27 күн бұрын
You made me go on a nostalgia trip and dig put my old flip ultra hd. Im glad I did. There was some memories lost on it that i did not know we even had anymore. Thank you for this vido and reminding me that things that are put away still holds value.
@dylanraythornton
22 күн бұрын
i remember looking at these with my mouth watering at how cool it would have been to have one of these for youtube back in the day,
@occularmalice
27 күн бұрын
I had a flip ultra and it worked great. Actually on vacation we were dumped into a lake (by a jerk driving a powerboat next to our canoe too quickly and closely) and the flip was submerged in the lake (it was in the pocket of my cargo shorts). I dried everything out and the flip didn't work, however a week later after we got back from vacation I picked it up and turned it on and it still worked. It was an amazing little product.
@roxcyn
27 күн бұрын
What an honor it was to see a blast from the past.
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