Sweet!! One of my seasonal gigs is snow removal. I have to carry several different access control devices with me on the job. Most of the properties I enter are behind a security gate. Some gates use key cards, some use the tiny round fobs, some use garage door style clickers, and some look like car alarm remotes. Some are static while others are rolling codes. This is the main reason why I bought a Flipper. I don't want to carry all those devices with me as they are cumbersome and inconvenient. One ring to rule them all! I've been waiting for this type of advancement and I do look forward to having my personal electronic master key ready and working this winter. I shall stop by your github and learn something new. Thank you kindly!
@MrDerekJamison
11 ай бұрын
Next week's giveaway in my Discord channel should be for a .SUB file for a Genie remote! If you win that, then you can add to your Genie and sync your receivers with the Flipper. If you end up opening one place 16 times before the other, then you will need to press the button twice on the Flipper, but that's way better than needing to carry multiple remotes. If you don't win, you can buy remotes for around $15 USD to use with my app & extract the codes. discord.com/invite/NsjCvqwPAd
@christiaanvisagie5823
11 ай бұрын
Woah this is amazing! Congrats on figuring this out!
@MrDerekJamison
11 ай бұрын
Glad you like it! I figure a lot of the “MF: Unknown” probably do something similar & don’t use the OVR bits (so they repeat every 64K). However, if they do use that feature of KeeLoq then your remote would be useless and you would only be able to use the Flipper going forward - so a do at your own risk experiment if it is a different brand/model than I used.
@Max-gm8bt
10 ай бұрын
if you really wanna be a boss can you figure out genie fixed code brute force @@MrDerekJamison
@RAH-u6y
18 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, looks interesting! what are the Genie models that can work with this code? also, how about the other garage openers brands, can we use the same code to decode the key? Many thanks in advance
@MakeItHackin
11 ай бұрын
Great stuff!
@MrDerekJamison
11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@JhdsonsHgf
7 ай бұрын
I ran the encoder and got 65k codes but I did it start and stop over several days. The remote and my flipper both make the receiver flash but doesn’t function. Did I need to run the app again with a new remote in order to receive all codes in one go. Fortunately the other remotes paired with the door still function. Btw thank you for your contribution ☺️
@MrDerekJamison
7 ай бұрын
Is it version 3 of the application? (Version is in the about text). Probably easiest to help debug in Discord -- I'm on vacation for 2 more weeks, so slow to respond. I've used old remotes fine. Do NOT attach screenshots, since the code could be used to open your door. :) discord.com/invite/NsjCvqwPAd
@LP-fy8wr
11 ай бұрын
They pulled this from Roguemaster a couple revs back do you know when it will be re-added? Great work on this by the way!
@MrDerekJamison
11 ай бұрын
Thanks. I think I'll have a new version mid-November that will use it's own genie.c file, so it doesn't require firmware edits. The new app should also support sending the signal, so editing the firmware will be totally optional (only for people that want to take up that critical Flipper space and use it within the Sub-GHz built-in app).
@martingrahan1437
10 ай бұрын
So we need to press 65536 times the remote to load the db? Is more that 18 hours of pressing the FOB nonstop lol at 1 code per second, isn't it possible to somehow extract the encryption key of the hardware?
@MrDerekJamison
10 ай бұрын
It's fully automated with my app. In fact in my Discord server, I'm giving away a .GNE file with 65536 codes from a remote I bought from Amazon. KeeLoq has been around a long time, but I don't think there is an easy way to extract the key. There is lots of research out there about side-channel attacks, etc. so I think it's possible, just not easy. It's just a lot more complex than plugging two wires into your Flipper and coming back two days later with the file. I hope to write an app that can just "store" the codes and show you how many you have remaining, then you could fill it for 10 minutes and probably be good for a few months of access (of course, then the original remote wouldn't work) but if you are willing to pay $10USD for a remote you could transfer a few codes at a time and then throw that remote in the drawer until you needed more codes for your Flipper. Here is my remote - I don't know of any tool that can take all of those values and spit out the encryption key. github.com/jamisonderek/flipper-zero-tutorials/blob/main/subghz/samples/genie-girud-1t/keys-genie.txt Giveaway is at discord.com/invite/NsjCvqwPAd
@shaquilleoatmeal4413
7 ай бұрын
Do you have to be close to the garage door when you’re reading the different keys? Like want to do it far enough so my garage door isn’t just opening and closing the whole time. 5:12
@MrDerekJamison
7 ай бұрын
While capturing code from a remote, I am not anywhere near the door. In fact, I often haven't paired the remote I'm copying to the receiver yet. For sure, you don't want to open the door 65536 times.
@Kwitzats
10 ай бұрын
cant you just let the devs know so they can incorporate this into the official builds? no way am i dumping my fw just to open my garage door
@MrDerekJamison
10 ай бұрын
Fair. It’s in RogueMaster. I plan on writing a new version of the app that won’t require any firmware mods (but you will only be able to send from within my app).
@Hackedpw
11 ай бұрын
😮
@gerwinperez4960
9 ай бұрын
This for bft door variable code :( does it work, would I need it?
@MrDerekJamison
9 ай бұрын
It appears some BFT products are using Keeloq, so it might work. It's not clear what the TE (speed of signal) is; so I don't know if it would be supported by the app I wrote. Also, it's possible they use OVR bits, which means after the remote plays the 65536 codes it may not repeat.
@FacundoRodriguez-r7e
9 ай бұрын
Hello, how are you doing? A question, I am from Argentina, I wanted to know if this could also be done with car keys? What danger would that be?
@MrDerekJamison
9 ай бұрын
The most common danger with car remotes is getting them out of sync. A typical garage door has a "sync" button, but cars usually have some complex process to accept a new key. This technique works well for a signal that repeats eventually (like KeeLoq with 65536 codes then repeat). Some cars may use OOK or 2FSK modulation (which is what the Flipper Zero supports), but I've seen other that use more complex modulation that aren't supported by the Flipper Zero (requiring something like a Software Defined Radio to record or playback the signal). If it was my vehicle, I would try (in range) to see if the Flipper's Sub-GHz "Read" was able to decode the signal. This is the first requirement. If that worked, the next step would be to use "Read" to grab a signal (out of range) then use the Flipper Zero to resend the signal; likely need a custom firmware for sending. If the Flipper can "Read" the signal, and the firmware can "Send" the signal later, I would take apart the remote (like changing batteries) and see if it's likely that I would be able to connect wires to the remote. Then I would order a new key fob & program that fob as an additional key to my vehicle. I would then try to extract all of the codes from the key fob, using a technique similar to the one above.
@FacundoRodriguez-r7e
9 ай бұрын
So it would be impossible to open a car with this device? Is there a way to put the flipper zero in Spanish?
@MrDerekJamison
9 ай бұрын
I haven't seen a localized firmware and many apps are also only in English. I wouldn't say impossible, it depends on the technology that is securing the car. I've heard that some people were able to capture a RAW signal and then play that back. But the scenario is more like: You do a Read RAW capture of the remote with your Flipper, you send the .SUB file to a friend (like an email attachment), they copy the .SUB file on their Flipper & can unlock your vehicle one time.
@FacundoRodriguez-r7e
9 ай бұрын
Is there a way to know the car codes with Flipper Zero? I read that many cars use variable codes. A friend bought a Flipper Zero and it didn't help him at all to open his car or anything or is it just pure advertising? I saw some videos and if you can open cars I wanted to know if I could help you let's say make it work thank you very much very good channel and videos!
@MrDerekJamison
9 ай бұрын
@@FacundoRodriguez-r7eMost of the videos out there that show the Flipper Zero opening a car are using "Read RAW" to capture the signal, which only works 1 time & will also not work once the original remote sends a new signal to the car. You may be able to capture your keys 1 time, so if your friends take away your keys at the pub, you can still unlock the car and sleep in it for the night? (But maybe a better plan is to take an Uber home.) If your car manufacture doesn't use OOK or 2FSK then the Flipper can't even do that! Guessing the code, brute force, requires you know the pattern the manufacture uses & it will take a few years on average to correctly guess.
@massimoildybalajunior900
8 ай бұрын
Where i download the v2 version for Genie?
@MrDerekJamison
8 ай бұрын
I'll try to write a new version soon, with everything pre-installed. Right now, RogueMaster is the best place for genie stuff (since they pre-installed my Genie protocol files and the app.)
@maalalahanin0876
10 ай бұрын
where is the discord server?
@MrDerekJamison
10 ай бұрын
Hi. The server is at discord.com/invite/NsjCvqwPAd
@EliasOda
11 ай бұрын
dont know how to install this on flipper zero you dont show how.
@MrDerekJamison
11 ай бұрын
You have to follow the instructions at github.com/jamisonderek/flipper-zero-tutorials/blob/main/subghz/apps/genie-recorder/README.md and connect your own Genie remote. My hope is that by next week it will be preinstalled in RogueMaster firmware; so maybe wait until then if you aren’t familiar with sync/build firmware. My other videos do cover the topic of building your own firmware, even my Genie video from two weeks ago covers most of it (except the protocol files being copied).
@EliasOda
11 ай бұрын
@@MrDerekJamison okay thaks
@DarkZin668
11 ай бұрын
Ola amigo sou do brasil , pode mim vender um flipper zero ou mim dar um ? Queria muito um flipper zero
@MrDerekJamison
11 ай бұрын
Sorry, my understanding is the Telecom agency doesn’t allow it in that region.
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