Old video, but I wanted to share that I discovered this case is more effective on it's side with display and power ports up to release heat, 38C on it's side vs 55C on it's top, running only a pihole....goes to show how much better this case would be with some small vents. Love this case.
@smakx7049
5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I ordered one last weekend after seeing 2 different thermal tests that confirm that with the Flirc case the Pi4 will run fan-less under full load without throttling, excellent.
@prometheus9096
4 жыл бұрын
Hi considering to buy that case. Does it actually work in day to day use?
@MadHatter11371
4 жыл бұрын
Overclocking would require a fan right?
@satno4224
3 жыл бұрын
@@MadHatter11371 yes
@japyoo2248
2 жыл бұрын
@@satno4224 no
@satno4224
2 жыл бұрын
@@japyoo2248 you need a fan for overclocking
@burcakb1
5 жыл бұрын
Immediately ordered one after watching this video. I wish they had also included contacts for the network & usb chips - those also get ridiculously hot on the pi4
@bahathir_
5 жыл бұрын
I am new in Raspberry Pi. I have Rpi 3B+ and got aluminium case with similar transfer method. Ambient room temperature is about 27 dgree Celcius. Idling or lightweight tasks : 40 degree Celcius. Maxed 4 cores at 100% CPU : 54 degree Celcius. Since the heat is spreads on top of the casing, I put it upside down on the ceramic tiles floor which is much cooler than ambient room temperature. At 100% CPU load, the temperature dropped to 48 degree Celcius. Now, the EXTRA EXTREME cooling.. just for the load stress prupose.. the ICE cooling. I made ice in stainless steel bowl. and put it on top of the casing.. Beware, of the water condensation. In this setup, idling temperature was 23 degree Celcius and full stress temperature is about 35 degree Celcius. If the ice block is perfectly flat, I want to try to put the Rpi upside down directly on the ice block. Beware the melting ice... Or, perhaps extra extreme cooling by using dry ice.. :) The cons of the metal casing is, the WiFi receptions will be lower.. but not much.. It drops -4 dBm , compared to when using plastic casing. Other than this, I am happy with this kind of casing. Thank you.
@Loundsify
5 жыл бұрын
27c in doors makes me want to cry lol. 20-22 is my perfect indoor temperature.
@bahathir_
5 жыл бұрын
@@Loundsify I am living in South East Asia, where the outside temperature is about 28-33 degree Celcius. My bedroom has air-conditioner to keep the room temperature down. Thanks for the comment.
@yankeedoodle1087
5 жыл бұрын
I got my flirc case today also, and I prefer to use thermal paste. A note when using thermal paste with this case, the maker's took into account the height of the thermal pad, so you will need to be more generous with an alternative thermal solution to make contact.
@dwalinfundinson
5 жыл бұрын
Generous? How well did it perform compared to the thermal pad?
@remixislandmusic510
5 жыл бұрын
@@dwalinfundinson He means you will have to use a lot of paste to fill in the gap
@dwalinfundinson
5 жыл бұрын
@@remixislandmusic510 Isn't that counter to the way you're supposed to use thermal paste?
@remixislandmusic510
5 жыл бұрын
@@dwalinfundinson Not really. Too much paste really doesnt hurt things as most modern pastes are non conductive.
@bravestbullfighter
5 жыл бұрын
@@remixislandmusic510 He's referring to excessive use of thermal paste creating an insulation effect and not conductivity.
@sst85og
5 жыл бұрын
Will definitely pick this up once I get a revised Pi 4 in the future. Thanks for reviewing this one as always!
@iloveyoushima
5 жыл бұрын
What's there to revise?
@sst85og
5 жыл бұрын
@@iloveyoushima The Pi 4 has a non-compliant USB-C charging port that doesn't work with a lot of chargers. The Pi co-founder stated it should be revised in a future revision.
@iloveyoushima
5 жыл бұрын
@@sst85og I heard that they'll also try and fix it through firmware updates although I've got no idea how that'll work. I assume it works just fine if you buy the official charger.
@sst85og
5 жыл бұрын
@@iloveyoushima Yeah, official charger should be fine. I guess whatever fix they implement will make other chargers compatible. Time will tell!
@estusflask982
5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. This case more than halved the temp of my Pi4 4GB. Now it actually runs without constantly overheating and shutting itself down/crashing.
@LockeLeon
5 жыл бұрын
Freaking YES! Passive cooling in the very case and effective? I was waiting for this. Thank you for your review man!
@wierd0n3
5 жыл бұрын
Argon just updated their case for the Pi4, I like how it adds a power button and moves the connectors to the rear. Same concept, whole top of the case is a heatsink, plus a magnetic top that leaves the GPIO available without pulling the case apart.
@hblaub
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, ETA prime. My Raspberry did not like being uncool. Now he enjoys his life for the first time living in a new Flirc home.
@VasilDomuschiev
4 жыл бұрын
Does this metal enclosure blocks the Wi-Fi and BT range? In reality it is a Faradey's cage of sort. Can you test the bandwidth and signal strength?
@MikaelMurstam
4 жыл бұрын
that's a good question. Especially if you want to use Wifi for streaming video
@ravagingwolverine
5 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting to see the new Flirc case for the Pi 4 and its performance, so I'm glad to see this video pop up. Though I'm in no hurry to get a Pi 4 and stock has been low anyway, I figured there wasn't much point in getting it without this case, as I expected it to do well and be practical. Good to see it's ready and performing well. Thanks for testing it out and reporting.
@gsansoucie
4 жыл бұрын
I almost clicked away at first when I saw there was no heatsink or fan until I saw your tests. Very well presented. I’m looking to get an rpi4 for ham radio use, not running a fan is a bonus. The real test will be how this performs in the summer, outside, on a picnic table in the sun churning audio clips, but I’m sold for now. Thanks.
@clovenbeast5183
3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your stuff for a long time and I just realized that I wasn't subscribed. I've been a bad viewer I'm sorry I appreciate your content You're one of the few trusted sources that I look for thank you
@persechini
5 жыл бұрын
I was getting second toughs on my preorder for the flirc case (I'm just getting into raspberry pi with the 4), this test gives me peace of mind
@ocg-overwatchconsolegamepl2809
5 жыл бұрын
I know this is just the start of your PI4 reviews and can't wait for more!
@-MrDontCare-
5 жыл бұрын
Always been wondering about this cases. Looks nice and I wish they could support the original Raspberry POE Hat.
@socrates_the_great6209
5 жыл бұрын
Sick that the Flirc case is such a INSANE passive CPU cooler!
@jamesw6529
5 жыл бұрын
Dude your videos are awesome. Very informative. What I love most is there is always a link for software or hardware products you talk about. Keep up the good work.
@None17555
5 жыл бұрын
this dude's always got the best pi cases
@DennisRamberg
5 жыл бұрын
I would really love if raspberry pi foundation released a raspberry pi4 with one full-sized hdmi. Sure, it's cool with dual video output, but micro-hdmi connectors are terrible. and to be honest, how often will two screens be a use case to people? perhaps if you're making a portable device with internal screen and external video output connector, but still then it would be better with a compute module and a separate daughterboard. Flirc cases though, they're really good, I kind of wish more manufacturers took this approach of making the whole case a heatsink.
@macsboost
5 жыл бұрын
check out macsboost pi case..
@exodous02
5 жыл бұрын
I will still wait to see what retroflag comes up with. Well, that and I'm just going to wait for the revision of the pi 4.
@NibblePibbly
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I ordered one myself after watching it. It just arrived and is working great.
@ozzymandius666
5 жыл бұрын
That is one handsome case! Looks great! Perfect for media players. Flirc has reduced the price to $11.20 to boot.
@JimboMidge
5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see how the Argon one case holds up against this. It's essentially a full aluminum heatsink plus a built-in fan. I really love that it puts all the ports in the back and has a power button also.
@TimHunold
5 жыл бұрын
I am begging them to make a 4b case. It is amazing
@adameizen2753
5 жыл бұрын
I just love my new Argon One case for my 3B+, the case does get warm but the Pi stays nice and cool, actually considering adding a led to the fan so I can see when the fan kicks in. This thing runs super quiet.
@kevinforth7618
4 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of these cases - they keep my Pi 4s between 43 and 49 C. These cases do warm up quite a bit though, and are quite warm to the touch if you're using your Pi 4 as a server, where it's powered up all the time. But they are certainly quiet, having no fan.
@75ohmHAM
5 жыл бұрын
I used thermal grizzly on the CPU, then the needed pad, then another coat of paste contacting the aluminum.
@joelh2783
5 жыл бұрын
Same here.. that pad was so thin.
@Dianaranda123
5 жыл бұрын
You could maybe fill that area going down to the CPU from above the flirc case with a liquid like water or something. Might give a little bit of extra cooling.
@IRWPD
5 жыл бұрын
When I order myself a Pi 4 will be getting one of these cases.
@TwistedMe13
5 жыл бұрын
You could actually get an even better result with your FLiRC case if you swap the stock thermal tape with some Fujipoly Extreme thermal pad material. It won't work with heatsinks that require adhesive to secure them to whatever chip you wish to attach them to, but this case's heatsink relies on the screws to hold it against the chip.
@IosadosdIV_videos
5 жыл бұрын
Nice tip, thanks. Exactly, how thick should the pad be? 0.5, 1 or 1.5 mm?
@TwistedMe13
5 жыл бұрын
@@IosadosdIV_videos Not sure. To know that I would need to buy one and take a pair of calipers to measure the thickness of the included thermal tape.
@TwistedMe13
5 жыл бұрын
@@IosadosdIV_videos Correction: They list the brand and thickness of the included thermal pad on the product page of their site. It's 1.5mm.
@insoft_uk
5 жыл бұрын
I use a flirc case on a pi3, it’s never had any heat issue and no noise as they is no fan, I would never get any other case, Flirc is really good case and is all you need to keep the pi safe and cool
@NagoLnoJ
3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I didn't understand heat sync and how this case worked until watching your video. I was about to smash the buy button for a Canakit case that has a fan. Thank you!
@TimHunold
5 жыл бұрын
I am worrying about it becoming a hot brick. For the 3b+ I love the argon one for active and passive. I also have the ice tower for my 4b. I may buy a flirc anyway
@cdawson198600
5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered about static discharge on these cases that act as a heatsink directly attached to the SOC heat-spreader.
@nekomasteryoutube3232
5 жыл бұрын
Well I suppose just discharge yourself before installing or get a Anti-Static wrist band (that actually attaches to something :D)
@cdawson198600
5 жыл бұрын
Matt Brine yes that works for at home but running it in a backpack or cargo pocket tru VNC is a concern, although their is a thermal pad between the case and the SOC but no idea how well that insulates from static.
@Loundsify
5 жыл бұрын
It has rubber feet and plastic lid, my pi3 never stopped working and that was with it overclocked to 1.4Ghz and the GPU and memory overclocked.
@cdawson198600
5 жыл бұрын
Loundsify rubber feet and a plastic lid doesn’t stop a static discharge if the sides are metal and it’s in a backpack.
@CJDJCanada
5 жыл бұрын
My Pi4 has been in its original box since I received it, because I primarily got it for retro gaming, so I have to wait for Retropie to be released. I still use my 3b+ in the NES Retroflag case in the mean time. I'm thinking of picking up this case, but have to wait to see if there's going to be a Canadian supplier.
@TheSasukekun92
4 жыл бұрын
Best Is Passive, with thermal pads and 2 fans up extracting heat from heatsink.
@diegoweb900
5 жыл бұрын
Finally \o/. Flirc case still seems to be a beast in passive colling. Thanks ETA for bringing up this video :D
@jlecraft
5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful succinct video with great information. Definitely getting multiple Flirc cases now.
@wazy_7
5 жыл бұрын
Any chance of some results with a 2ghz overclock?
@thecaptain2281
5 жыл бұрын
Can that be done? Haven't seen anyone who can do it.
@SpekulacjeTV
4 жыл бұрын
TheCaptain kzitem.info/news/bejne/ta16yIVob5F-o20
@dennisolof9994
5 жыл бұрын
Nice, I will get that case. I have the Pi3+ with the flirc case and it is great. No reason to doubt the flirc case for Pi4 as it essentially is the same case but modified to work with the Pi4. Passive cooling is the best.
@yourikhan4425
5 жыл бұрын
It's my understanding that the square chip close to the USB-C (2:03) runs also pretty hot, and there is no cooling for it in this case. (A additional small radiator for it may be required to ensure a long life)
@nathanddrews
5 жыл бұрын
I like that your hands are frequently dirty and cut/scratched. Keeping busy is a wonderful thing!
@dj4monie
5 жыл бұрын
From working with electronics?
@nathanddrews
5 жыл бұрын
@@dj4monie Could be, but one of his videos showed what looked like a garage/wood shop. I know I just cut my knuckle wide open on an external aluminum hard drive enclosure.
@philbrown8181
4 жыл бұрын
Really helpful and informative video. Many thanks for taking the time to make and post, much appreciated!
@Obamjur
5 жыл бұрын
Best narration on web, thank you!
@Teppic11
5 жыл бұрын
Aluminium always looks great for these things. So much nicer than plastic.
@PULSTARUnboxing
5 жыл бұрын
Armor case/heatsink is the best at the moment for Pi4, then will be BIQU when they update it to the Pi 4
@GASH_one
5 жыл бұрын
It is not the best, but it's the one you like the most. That's a difference.
@abzhuofficial
5 жыл бұрын
That Pi case makes the Pi setup look like an Intel NUC. One could state that it... "looks and feels premium" (shudders at such a description). LOL
@exodous02
5 жыл бұрын
That ice tower just isn't particle, it is huge!
@solderchicken7598
4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos mate. Always bang on the money. Thank you! 🙏
@dinop7488
Жыл бұрын
I got this case. It's really nice. Sturdy, strong. And great for heat dissipation. I got a pi4 that's overlooked a bit for better performance. And no issues with the case heat However, for some odd reason, when I try to pair my ps5 controllers in retropie, it just freezes/stalls. I have to use a dongle USB stick for it to work. I believe this is cause there's something about the case that prevents this
@hectoro5144
4 жыл бұрын
Man I have that same config! and it's awesome and I actually bought it because of your video! :)
@notthesameman
4 жыл бұрын
How does it work, is there Bluetooth, wifi dropping? Also what does it do with the heat and cooling? Thanks
@hectoro5144
4 жыл бұрын
@@notthesameman I have used it as a desktop computer, normal use as e-mails, document editing and internet, I have not put it to the test with something like retro pi yet. So far no overheating issues and I have not experienced temperatures above 60 deg Celsius. It spreads the heat all around the case.
@larsbliss2728
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and the link. I have a pi 3 b + on the way so I grabbed a flirc case for it. If I dig the whole raspberry thing I'll probably pick up a pi 4 or two to see what they can do.....
@Pedro8k
4 жыл бұрын
Good looking and great design using case as heatsink
@Hammersmash3dFace
5 жыл бұрын
Nice case, good test. thanks!
@zandatsu07
5 жыл бұрын
that Ice Tower looks cool
@anshpatidar5842
3 жыл бұрын
Is it sufficient for absorption of heat produced after overclocking..? BTW nice video, keep going
@thighdude7
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review - Flirc case incoming for my 8GB Pi!
@DoryanTheCritic
4 жыл бұрын
Quoting ETA PRIME here: "In my opinion, the Flirc case is and has been the Best Case for the Raspberry Pi 2 3 3b+ and now the Pi4." But didn't you say that about the Argon One Raspberry Pi case?
@williamhart4896
5 жыл бұрын
Good thermals on that flirc case
@PhG1961
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent product and well documented !
@Back2SquareOne
5 жыл бұрын
Thermal throttling is not the only consideration. 80 degrees Celsius is quite a high temperature and will very likely affect the longevity/reliability of your Pi. Further, you completely ignore the USB controller and other on-board chips that can also get quite hot. Finally, your test conditions are run 23C room temperature. Many people use their Pis in non-air conditioned environments. Summer temps may get over 35C in many places. This greatly impacts the ability of the case to dissipate heat, especially if it is in an enclosed space like a TV cabinet. The Flirc case is nice but it is far from the universal solution you seem to be suggesting and your testing is not as comprehensive as it might be.
@chrisguo5698
5 жыл бұрын
Good case. We can also 3D print a similar case, and use copper tape or alum tape on the heat sink part, and on other upper case surface, then you have it!
@Doobie3010
5 жыл бұрын
looks like a mini mac-mini case.Smart looking lil thing.
@badhombre4942
5 жыл бұрын
Flirc that.........is the case....right there.
@esprithk
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have been waiting for this.
@khalidelgazzar
4 жыл бұрын
Great review & neat comparison. I like the flirc case
@matuzaato
5 жыл бұрын
Wait that's really good, must buy if you don't have a cooling system already
@saifal-badri
5 жыл бұрын
I got mine today, what a nice case!
@TwistedD85
5 жыл бұрын
Someone on the RetroPie subreddit has been doing some Lakka N64 tests and its looking real good for the Pi4. With that and the Flirc case performing so well I'm legit excited for this thing :D
@dj4monie
5 жыл бұрын
Something I don't quite understand about the geek/linux user/Nintendo fan base is the love for the N64 when there is really only a handful of good games on it....
@TwistedD85
5 жыл бұрын
@@dj4monie Its probably for that very reason. Only a few games, would rather emulate than spend money trying to collect. Plus the ones that were good were really good, at least for me.
@bradquinn4161
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. I was in doubt if the Flirc would be able to handle the Pi4. I also did not want to cough $70 for a wicked case. I liked (and still like) the idea of the Ice tower, but fitting it with a case was problematic. In short I order the Flirc ten minutes after watching your video. IF ANYBODY happens to see a decent case for the Ice tower, I would appreciate a comment. Thanks
@joelh2783
5 жыл бұрын
Great case, got mine last week.
@desmonddwyer
5 жыл бұрын
Love it but I think vent holes might help???
@suburbia2050
4 жыл бұрын
You didn't get the bit about the case acting as a large heat sink?
@EpixOnYT
5 жыл бұрын
Nice I'm working on 3d printing a case for mine 👍
@vikaspal2799
3 жыл бұрын
Could you pleassssssssse print one for me?
@RocktCityTim
5 жыл бұрын
Great case! I would love to see you add thermal paste instead of the pad.
@james10739
5 жыл бұрын
The flirc cases are some of the nices out there
@infradigital
4 жыл бұрын
Impressive results!
@CapApollo
5 жыл бұрын
what about wireless signal?
@jestemzbiaorusi8379
5 жыл бұрын
I think, it will has some issues with WiFi...
@estusflask982
5 жыл бұрын
@@jestemzbiaorusi8379 yeah, metal blocks wifi.
@d.r.1402
5 жыл бұрын
Isn't the bottom of the case still plastic? That should allow the signal to leave.
@GASH_one
5 жыл бұрын
I've been using a Flirc case for the Pi 3b all the time. I have no issues with WiFi at all, so for the Pi 4 it shouldn't be a problem either. But I have to mention, that I have better Bluetooth signal, when I use an additional Bluetooth dongle. Since the Pi4 has better Bluetooth, the dongle shouldn't be nessessary. Can anybody confirm this?
@DrCognitive
4 жыл бұрын
If Argon could fix the issue with their daughterboard, the Argon One case for the Pi4 would completely destroy this basic case.
@AaronJones-kw9to
4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos; SUPER HELPFUL!
@voiceoftreason1760
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Top notch. I'm sold.
@markinnes4264
5 жыл бұрын
OK the Flirc case plus a RP4 is a compelling little computer! I hope to set one up for myself.
@anthomore4269
5 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great case but I would like the case with a fan and 4 good heatsink for the cpu, ram, ethernet and usb chip. But I love the the ice tower video. I plan in buying raspberry pi 4 for a cloud storage so cooling is important.
@CircuitBird
4 жыл бұрын
I really want GeeekPi to release a new Genesis style shell, just like they did for the Pi3.
@16bitfightclub34
5 жыл бұрын
still no retropie ?
@wildann492
4 жыл бұрын
Cool , it looks like nuc
@Particlar
5 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find temps of how the FLIRC performs on an overclocked (1.9-2.0GHz) RPi4. Does it throttle during normal use, stress tests?
@AnriaruDoragon
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tests, I will take this case))
@charlesbenn7041
4 жыл бұрын
Thx just what i needed. And well done test
@daniellisy7161
5 жыл бұрын
Looks very good, thanks for making me aware, can you shouw the I/O access, I would need that one to be accessible
@HaraganTheHungry
5 жыл бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was an intel nuc i3
@taco42O
5 жыл бұрын
I sooo want one of these. I cant wait till i can get one
@PatrickConstant
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this kind of case. It seam efficient. I'm looking for one from France but the first I found seems to be a little expensive (23$). Wait and see ? So, good video. You have a new subscriber
@dapz
5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how the CPU to this compares to the cpu in the Switch. What's the geekbench scores for this? I can't seem to find any.
@zgredek1234567
5 жыл бұрын
Zpad It’s nowhere near switch level of performance. What is more there is huge difference in raw GPU between those two devices.
@Loundsify
5 жыл бұрын
The switch is a very under locked Tegra X1, you would be better to compare it to the Shield TV.
@dapz
5 жыл бұрын
@@zgredek1234567 in terms of gpu, yes, switch is way better. In terms of CPU, the switch uses quad a57 and the rpi uses quad a72, which at the same clocks would make the pi faster in cpu. But the switch is clocked a bit higher though
@markconger8049
5 жыл бұрын
A member of the Raspberry Pi Facebook group posted a couple of days ago that his FLIRC did not cool the Pi 4 well enough to avoid throttling so he modded it to add a fan. With all the heat discussions in the Pi community and some having no issues while others have toasters I’m wondering if there is a quality control issue during manufacturing that renders some Pies hotter than others.
@Loundsify
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe he had multiple monitors connected? I wonder if that has anything to do with it? Extra load on the GPU will spread heat to the board and heat the CPU up faster.
@methanoid
5 жыл бұрын
Still watching vid but I swear if ETA does not test this overclocked I will unsubscribe.
@Loundsify
5 жыл бұрын
@@methanoid dude it's ETA Prime. Have some faith and patience. He probably has family and work outside of KZitem to contend with.
@OscarTorresWork
5 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Recalbox on this new Pi4
@kaylaandjimbryant8258
5 жыл бұрын
can you also do a review of the new argon one for the pi4?
@yourikhan4425
4 жыл бұрын
Got the Pi4, Rapsbian, last updates/firmware. Idle = 48°
@mjbates
5 жыл бұрын
Great vid, just purchased because if it!
@Mcimby
5 жыл бұрын
that's some great design
@jig1056
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks this is good info. i'm getting this case. Thanks
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