Fly Wing H1 Setup Tutorial & Tips Video: kzitem.info/news/bejne/wI151I2ooqZyi34 Learn more about the wonderful & fascinating hobby of RC helicopters: www.rchelicopterfun.com/
@Zeaiclies
4 жыл бұрын
Love the voice for your flight modes. lol
@FlyingPanMan
3 жыл бұрын
Putting aside the gimmicky circle, figure 8, and inverted functions, I think the real advantage this unit gives is the ability to RTH at the flick of a switch. I tend to fly too far sometimes and become disorientated occasionally. So far, I've been lucky and managed to sort things out. However, I wouldn't need to wash so much underwear with a Return To Home switch!
@stanwerner7484
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing---the hobby came a long way since I was flying some 30 years ago.
@Leimin81
3 жыл бұрын
“Sh!t is about to get real” 😂 Been reading your website from 10 years ago when I first learnt to fly. Came back to flying recently and found your videos. Awesome stuff as usual. Thanks John. 👍🏼
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks back 👍
@AboTurkiPro
4 жыл бұрын
15:58 now that's a badass Radio control 😂😂😂
@Fran11784
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, really enjoyed the review! Reminds me of the "invert switch" we had back in the 80s. I think I might try one of these...... Cheers
@chrisrenek9152
4 жыл бұрын
I`m a scale flying pilot I think this would help me. And I have poor arm and hand movement .Thank you for such a good video. I am thinking about getting this. Have a good day...
@mohdnihal1638
4 жыл бұрын
love to see the full setup video.
@barneyrebel0123
4 жыл бұрын
I think like you. Learn to fly 3D the right way, then if, as you said, lose loss of hand skills, due to many different reasons, which do happen, at least you can still fly. Maybe another application would be, if you invest a lot of money into a kit, this would be like a SAFE MODE to back you up at the flick of a switch since you can turn it off and on. John I was messaging with someone on RCGroups, and they really love your videos, and might even be a friend, I don't know. But I just got into flying RC Heli's in mid April. Started with a Blade 70S RTF. IMO, best flybarless trainer FP made, and at a perfect price, so if you feel it's "Not your thing", your wallet will still be very heavy. Anyway, he helped me out quite a bit while learning FP, and made a lot of good suggestions, quoting you a lot! He got me on the right path of how to train and progress. I've flown fixed wing RC for 17 years, plus cars and boats, but I was always very hesitant about flying Heli's, as I knew they were the hardest to learn. Well, the technology is at the best I've seen yet, with that little 70S, and I couldn't resist the price. The gentleman even said, quoting you again, that "The RC controller in the RTF with the 70S, is really not bad at all, as it gives you the feel of a real type stick RC controller, and less toy like." Of course that's not verbatim, but, I understood what he meant, being a fixed wing pilot, and seeing some of the crappy "Toy Like" controllers that come in a lot of these RTF Helis. So I just wanted to thank you, and him, for suggesting to watch your vids. I'm now subscribed. BTW, I'm just about to fly my Nano S2 for the first time I received recently. I have over 100 flights on the 70S and hours of sim time, RealFlight 9, flying the 230S V2. I've bought a 230S V2 as well. But it's just going to sit in the box for a little longer, until I can fly the Nano S2 comfortably. I have no doubt I can fly the 230S V2 right now, in intermediate mode, but I would rather learn CP on the little Nano S2 first. No real 3D, some flips of course, and learning to hover inverted as well as flying it that way as well. As you can tell, I'm hooked now. And with that, like my fixed wing planes, I already own 2 Blade 70S's, the Esky 150 V2, (Just couldn't resist that little red LED in the tail when you throttle it up), the Nano S2, and the 230S V2 already. I already have my eye on 2 more. Anyway, again thank you very much!
@chrisbee5481
3 жыл бұрын
How is it going? I also started this Hobby new last year. Started with the XK K110 and now moved on to the Omphobby m1. Cant believe you didnt get one of these babys to Start. John Also recommends them
@barneyrebel0123
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbee5481 Hi Chris, it's going great! A lot more sim time on my Real Flight 9.0 that I recently upgraded to 9.5 for free, and have been flying my 230 V2 for quite a while now, on the 3rd mode, no more training wheels, and I'm competent doing some 3d. Flips forward and backwards, stationary rolls, waterfalls, but not every trick in the book by far, and I fly 3 mistakes high when performing them, just to make sure. I'm not fully competent with flying inverted full time yet, but I'm still practicing that on both the real heli, and the sim. I don't have as much time as I used to, since the lockdown to fly, as I've started back working again a while ago now, but, I'm still very much into Heli's and feel I'm hooked for life. I've been putting a little bit away in the savings for a Blade 480 Fusion, or something comparable that have parts readily available though. I really want to fly one of the really big boys now. I have that guy on RCGroups to thank, and John as well, or I probably would've never had the courage to just buy one and start flying. By the way, if you don't have a Blade S 230 V2, they discontinued it recently, and now it's called the Blade 230 S Smart. People are having a lot of trouble with the connector on the smart battery you need to fly it, and currently there's no adapter for the proprietary plug, so you can't charge the battery with any aftermarket chargers, even the ones THEY make! The only way to fly and charge it currently is to buy the RTF version, as it comes with the crappy, yet only charger currently on the market that will charge the battery for you.
@chrisbee5481
3 жыл бұрын
@@barneyrebel0123 i guess you are from north America (somewere on the continent). Horizon Hobby is very popular there. Guess thats why you went for the Blade. Here in Germany you get HH Blade products, but I find rather expensive. Had a blade mcpx long ago. Then I went for a trex 450. Okay, I forgot to mension the piece of crap Esky Belt CP before that. Best decision I ever made was to Start all over again after 8 years break last year. Had lots of time during lockdown. John Salt inspired me and adviced me to the k110 and M1. What I live about the K110 is its crash durability. Most time you can just pick it up and keep going. The 450 class is great. You need lots of space though. Here law regulations are sub 250g if you want to fly just about anywere. I have respect of the bigger Helis. With the micros you can just fly in your garden or park next door. They dont scare people. I never likes sims as much as just flying. With the k110 i practice rolls, flips and inverted and dint have to worry about crashing. Took me a month to get into 3d. So cheap to get one. You should try it. 😉
@mikesmith1290
2 жыл бұрын
Small helis are harder to fly than larger models. I had a couple of wl toys V977 micro cp helis. In 6 axis mode, it’s easy. As soon as I turn off the accelerometer, the ground comes up fast! My wife bought me a blade 330s for Christmas, but can’t open it till then. In real flight 9.5 it’s much easier to fly than the blade 230s
@doboy861
2 жыл бұрын
That video was awesome! You have more Guts than I would I guess if I flew as long as you have I would try it. But to hear you laugh so hard was great. Also the idea that someone with a disability could be able to fly again would be awesome. The feeling of doing what they used to it would get them back outdoors. Great video.
@charlesstevenson8751
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I want to learn more about setting it up. I have a Align 500X.
@brianheaton5521
4 жыл бұрын
"hangs in the air like dirty odor." Nice, gonna have to use that.
@RCredman69
4 жыл бұрын
Great video John. A no brainer to fly with the H1. But I think it's great for scale flying. Maybe I will put this H1 gyro in my 600ESP Airwolf. Can't wait to see the set-up tutorial.
@andre-dx4yw
Жыл бұрын
im currently learning helis from fixed wing and bought your book[ thought my printer was gonna overheat🤣] and i also have the accurc2 with vr, im trying to give myself the best chance at successfully learning to fly helis, as for this, its a great unit but i will stick with my dji mavic for hands off/on dumb fun, i can definately see a market for this and maybe when im skilled enough to do my intended scale/ sports flying i might get one for lazy days. thanks for the work you put in to get us noobs in the air!
@carlos64030
4 жыл бұрын
That is a freakin' amazing piece of tech for an extremely cheap price! Great video, John.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@johnclarke254
4 жыл бұрын
Hi John. Please, please do a full setup video.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Looks like I'm doing a setup video this week. 🙂
@DemaisLucas120
4 жыл бұрын
This is my dream all I ever wanted, I'm tired to put my helis on the fireplace
@Mr_Trixsta
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review John. I recently purchased the FW450 which included the H1 already setup. All I had to do is a calibration using the software and it fly’s as it’s intended.
@robparrington669
4 жыл бұрын
Same for me, great Heli and the H1 flight controller is very good
@GhostGrus
3 жыл бұрын
Calibration every time you start?
@crazygravy437
3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is what I need. Totally not interested in learning properly. Tired of wasting money on crash & repair. I just want to fly no stress. Thanks for the alternative.
@TheBeastFPV
4 жыл бұрын
Yes we whould love you to do a video on setting it up please
@TheDigitalAura
4 жыл бұрын
I guess if you're crop dusting it's useful, we have boring big drones for that though. A gadget for the xbox generation I guess although I hate the 6 axis stabilization systems too as they take all the fun away. Useful for a beginner if it gets away from them unless they forget to flick the switch of course. Quick note about flying with a hand injury. I was born without my left hand, only have about 2 inches below my elbow and I learned to fly, just took determination and practice, like anything. Can't comment if it was any harder for me than a regular flyer.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Very motivational - thanks for sharing your experience🙂.
@daleyoung87
3 жыл бұрын
Or FPV
@larrychamel
4 жыл бұрын
I think what you are saying John is basically "a monkey can fly it." Lol I hope you and your Family are all staying Safe and Healthy my friend! Thanks for sharing another great video John. 😍👍🚁
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I'm the monkey.
@vauny24
4 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a full tutorial set up,
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Working on it...
@Soryt
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing system , good alternative for the Naza H system in scale helicopters ( as rescue ) , need some updates fore sure . Thanks for review 👍👍
@calibermix8159
4 жыл бұрын
why do you need it for scale helis if you only do boring circles in the sky like old man ?
@Soryt
4 жыл бұрын
caliber because i am , so what ? And what can you do to have some fun ? Comment on other people 🤮
@daleyoung87
3 жыл бұрын
Been using a NAZA-H for several years. This looks much better.
@shanehoule9477
2 жыл бұрын
Nice back drop
@reginaldmcnab3265
3 жыл бұрын
I saw a video where someone said the tail bobbing can be corrected by increasing the Head-speed to 92 percent gain
@rcpilots1291
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanatory video. Initially I was super excited, but after consideration it’s not for me. As you explain it can develop real bad habits. It should suit a different segment of the Rc market because the system presents little challenge , even for newbies like me that are building our skills at a super slow rate but finding it hugely rewarding in the process. Happy flying
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, the RC heli instructor in me hates this technology and what negative impact it has the potential to do to our hobby; yet the nerd in me sure appreciates the technology & science involved. 🙃 Happy flying your way too.
@rcpilots1291
3 жыл бұрын
John Salt - ya the ultimate paradox 🤪
@mikesmith1290
2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a thunder tiger raptor 50 for $40, and am scared shitless to fire it up. Been thinking about using a beta flight controller with gps for it, but I’d rather get something made for helis
@treverb2948
4 жыл бұрын
thank you again for another great vid please do a setup video please. maybe address the 2 esc wiring for motor tail and motor main.... great vids as always
@rockyyeung9893
5 ай бұрын
Tail bouncing seems not having trouble in inverted mode.
@passinthru4328
4 жыл бұрын
Good review John. Have to say this thing has no appeal for me as it would take all the fun and challenge (and fear) out of flying a collective pitch heli.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree too. Most of us fly CP for the engagement & challenge - this removes much of that. As I said in the video, I see it as a wonderful aid however for folks who have lost the ability to fly for some health reason. I know a few good pilots that after having strokes had to shelve their birds, these things might help them get them flying again.
@passinthru4328
4 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Yes, that alone would be a very good thing. Who knows, they may yet build in the improvements you suggest. Will have to keep an eye on this one.
@armiestone
4 жыл бұрын
Can you advice if this will be good on a 90size gas helicopter like a gsr260s? I had an ace one autopilot but the imu is bad thinking or replacing it with this since the price is very OK
@AlexBongRCFunLand
4 жыл бұрын
this is indeed good tool to help us in rc heli. now single rotor will as stable as the multi rotor drone.😄👏👍
@kartal56
2 ай бұрын
Dear Sir This is Alp from Istanbul - Türkiye. I watched and excatly did your H1 setup video but I could not start the Align Trex 700.(I mean can not start motor and any thing else of Heli) I use orginal radio of Flywing FW450 . As you know this heli use same H1 system.What could be problem.Sorry for my English Best Regards
@davidclancy5787
2 жыл бұрын
Hi I am having some trouble with this I have set the H1 unit up as per the instructions. Everything moves in the right direction pitch set at 12 deg + -but I have a problem, as I raise the throttle the motor slows down a lot. Blades are of the correct way. Stuck.
@reginaldmcnab3265
3 жыл бұрын
Good job on the review!
@fpvtechnology837
Жыл бұрын
Hello John. I have the Flywing H1 for my T-Rex 470 LM I made all the settings on my helicopter and the radio control but when I want to take off the engine does not turn. My remote control is the Spektrum NX 10. There is certainly a button to assign to activate the motor but I don't know. Tutorials on KZitem do not explain very well how to set up the H1 with Spektrum radio controls. I have spent many hours trying to get the engine to run without success. Do you have an idea? Franck from France
@themusichallacademy2787
4 жыл бұрын
It's an awesome product. Thanks john 👍
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
You bet
@rbort07
3 жыл бұрын
note that while inverted it didn't bee bop around at all...??
@leonardootero7719
4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I enjoy all your videos! Let me ask you. How do you compare the Blade 150s over the OMP ? For the money? Thank you
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
The M2 and now the new M2 EXP is/are a better quality helis (both electronics & mechanics); but, you pay more so that quality increase naturally comes with a price tag attached to it. The new M2 EXP is $280 making it only $80 more than the 150 so the price gap has narrowed. Of course, another cost savings that can't be overlooked with the 150 is the built in RX if you already fly with Speky. Personally, I'd take the M2 or M2 EXP over the 150 for the direct drive main motor technology alone, but that's just my 2 cents and personal preference.
@davidsettles5706
3 жыл бұрын
Well by version 2 it might be worth getting nice vid brother....
@DesertJeff
2 жыл бұрын
Has the H1 approved any census video was put out? Have they updated its firmware, can you do coordinate of turns?
@andreklijn878
4 жыл бұрын
Yes please full setup
@JuniorAngel
2 жыл бұрын
Hi. First of all, very nice video. My question is if you need to take a laptop and "dance" to calibrate the system yet. I've read that they were preparing an app for phones to eliminate this dance. Thanks
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, no idea as I'm not Fly Wing Tech Support. I only know of Laptop connectivity on the H1.
@johncgibson4720
3 жыл бұрын
The robot cursed at you at 15:58 .
@Thechandran7
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jone i have install H1 to trex 600 recently ,everything done the same as you but collective pitch not going up for take off ,just moving around two decree in full throttle can you help me thanks
@Thejasond1979
3 жыл бұрын
Great review John appreciate it
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@sotheamam1244
4 ай бұрын
Hi will H1 work on trex 500x with spektrum transmitter and receiver
@joseriverjr6720
7 ай бұрын
Hello Jhon ! can you check into the new Gps H1 upgrade..just a short video how to upgrde..Thanks..
@Rchelicopterfun
7 ай бұрын
Sorry, but I got rid of the H1 shortly after reviewing it in this video. Way too many bad habits were forming, actually surprised just how quickly they were forming. 🙃
@anthonysmith5979
3 жыл бұрын
Bought the fw 450 with the h1 gps would like to get the Roban uh1 army huey 800 size when they become available, they recommend the Bavairian BestX and I see it's set up has what's missing in the H1
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
The H1 would be a horrid system in a big scale ship. I too would recommend the Bavarian Demon 3X - they are one of the best FBL systems for scale in my opinion. I've got a 3X in my Roban 700 super scale AS350 and it flies like a dream. You need lots of cyclic pitch filtering / derivative gain on big scale helis with lots of boom mass (which the Roban 800 UH1 most certainly does) or you will get horrible porpoising. The H1 will porpoise in a standard pod & boom heli just by looking at it the wrong way. The 3X however can handle it no problem.
@AirSniper-SongV
Жыл бұрын
Hi John, What’s your final setting under GPS mode to stop the tail from bouncing. I’m about to install H1 system on my 505.
@Rchelicopterfun
Жыл бұрын
As stated in the description, a compromised setup. I don't remember the exact setting because I got rid of the H1 shortly after and have the Ikon2 back on that heli.
@ipadize
3 жыл бұрын
seems to be pretty cool, but i will stick to my vbar neo with vbar control :)
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
I would agree!
@charliebrown238
2 жыл бұрын
15:57 "Shit, is about to get real!" I absolutely lost my shit when i heard that! Is that something you programed into it? Or does it do it by itself? And what part actually does that? Is it the transmitter?
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
It's part of the OpenTX voice/sound pack for the specific radio (transmitter) I'm using - yes it's programmed into the radio like all the voice call outs are. Voice/sound pack is called "Amber" (google search). She has some good sayings 😄
3 жыл бұрын
Is it better than the "old" Naza-H???
@CRUZROYHelicopters
3 жыл бұрын
can you show how to setup frsky radio to helicopters, nothing on fros on X10s
@ElecTrev
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you John for your very prompt replies. One last question: do you use governor mode on the ESC? Thanks
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Not on this particular bird.
@frankpirrone6032
2 жыл бұрын
I know how to fly collective but I am looking for something with rescue for those rare moments when I get confused or distracted. Which unit do you recommend?
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
Any good FBL system with rescue. Ikon, Bavarian Demon, Maxx, BeastX, Vbar... I go over them and what to look for in a flybarless system on my best flybarless system page: www.rchelicopterfun.com/best-flybarless-system.html
@CRUZROYHelicopters
Жыл бұрын
hey john ..love your content...i have the 380 alzrc and the swash is backwards from the 500 and i had to change Left and right servo connections to get swash moving right.... do you think that ok ???
@Rchelicopterfun
Жыл бұрын
Consult your FBL manual/setup wizard, it will say what is and isn't okay for servo connectivity.
@ElecTrev
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. I ordered mine from BG 8 days ago, so still a while to wait! Couple of questions: you power yours straight from BEC, but in the manual it says you can't do that, the voltage range they give is 6,4-8,4v? Also, we could do with a table of channel assignments, maybe in the setup video. The other improvement would be to make the inverted channel assignable, I don't think ch 6 is used? It would be really good if ch 6 could be for inverted instead of ch 9, then you could get away with an 8 channel system. Thanks again, looking forward to that in-depth setup video.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Depends what your BEC voltage is. The BEC in this hobbywing ESC is programmable and I have it set to 8.0V since I'm running HV servos in this 505. Channel mapping is straight forward (standard futaba for the first 4), and the toggle activation is as shown in the video for ch 5,7,8,9, but I'll cover it in the setup video. Yes, for some reason there is no channel 6, and you can't have a channel 6. Perhaps because that's the collective pitch channel with most radios and they likely left it our for radios that you can't change the output assignments like you can with OpenTX. In short, you need a 9 ch or better TX & RX if you want to use the ch9 invert function.
@emsman59
3 жыл бұрын
John, were you able to fix the tail jumping issue and how did you accomplish this? Thanks for the video and your time.
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Pretty much the same tuning steps taken to deal with cyclic pitch oscillations on any FBL system with combined cyclic axis gain adjustment, lack of PID access, or lack of elevator (cyclic pitch filtering). I basically tuned the cyclic gains while experimenting with different heads speeds with different amounts of head dampening and blade bolt torque to change the lead and lag characteristics of the blades. With that said, it can be tuned to work well in either autopilot mode or regular gyro mode - not both. To get it to work somewhat acceptable in both modes along a broader head speed range, it's a compromise between stability in one, and vagueness in the other.
@DMHaley
3 жыл бұрын
First off... Thank you John for the detailed video!!!! do you happen to know if this can be used with Spektrum radios? The SBUS has me a bit concerned
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently yes with a Spektrum receiver that has PPM output such as the AR7700. Channel mapping is wrong as well since the H1 uses Futaba channel mapping (AETR) not Spektrum/JR mapping (TAER) requiring some creative mix programming.
@djzwo5394
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have exactly the same problem as in your video, the helicopter wobbles and rocks like crazy. In your video they say the same thing, flying beautifully is something else. Do you have an explanation for this? Because for me only the 550 T-Rex does that, my 3 Logo 550se don't do that and stand like a ONE
@hermankoji
3 жыл бұрын
i fly heli with torque tube and belt drive. some how belt drive does the up and down tail boom shakes. not sure on yours heli.
@lengaultois132
2 жыл бұрын
No one seems to be addressing the elephant in the room... The required voltage for the H1 is incompatable with all my 4.8v tail servos. What would happen to the H1 if you run it on 5v. I know what will happen to my tail servos running 6.4v.. smoke and very likely an expensive crash.
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
*What elephant?* We have been running lower voltage tail servos on our RC helicopters when using higher voltage RX packs & BEC's for at least 20 years by using a voltage regulator on the tail servo. You can purchase them inexpensively, or build your own for dirt cheap. Lots of info on it and I do cover this in the H1 setup video in the description: kzitem.info/news/bejne/wI151I2ooqZyi34 *What happens if you power the H1 with only 5V?* No idea. I presume you would experience processor restarts, if it/they even boot up at all. The real elephant in the room is the *danger that all GPS enabled collective pitch helicopters pose to the future of our hobby.* We all know the mess the mindless GPS droners have done to the hobby of RC aviation, and that is with low energy quad copters. Imagine the same entitled pricks going on FPV hero missions with a 700 size heli putting out 8HP at the rotor shaft spinning razor sharp carbon blades. That's the big mother f-ing elephant in the room every RC aviation enthusiast should be concerned over; not the need to add a simple & inexpensive servo voltage regulator or a couple 20 cent HER 503 or 1N4001 rectifying diodes on an old low voltage tail servo. 🙂
@generalx5220
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, if you CG the heli the wobble goes away. I had the same issue and needed to move battery forward.
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the CG tip to get rid of tail bob. Unfortunately, my CG adjustment had no affect; I had to play with the gains to get the bob sorted.
@fox5136
15 күн бұрын
Hi John Would you be so kind to advise whether this system would fit on an omp m2 helicopter? I have fit a flybarless system on a helicopter long ago.Thanks in advance.
@Rchelicopterfun
14 күн бұрын
@fox5136 Too big. Pretty much 400 and larger machines.
@fox5136
14 күн бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you👍
@mohdsaifulmohdsaid852
2 жыл бұрын
will it works on tt raptor 50 heli?
@richardmaddever2121
3 жыл бұрын
John, I see there is a new update to the software, not sure if they've added much but hopefully enough to remove the tail bounce or a save function...
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
Nope, they just tweaked some pre-set settings. If you want a save function with a good flying RC helicopter, get a decent FBL system like an Ikon, Bavarian Demon, Spirit, V-Bar, Futaba etc. and don't even consider this GPS auto pilot crap. By the way & as I said in the video, more tuning was required to address the bounce and after a half dozen or so more test flights, playing with head speeds, the gain values, blade grip torque, and head dampening, the bounce was totally cured; so it's not due to the setup software, although it would be nice to have separate gains on cyclic like every other good FBL system offers.
@richardmaddever2121
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks John, What would be the best "beginners" flybarless system with maximum aid/functionality? I've moved on from a 450 with a directional gyro but I'm really after extra help from a flybarless system like rescue modes. Im not at all confident at 3D yet and I can see the GPS H1 system will cause bad habits. FYI I've read your webpage about the flybarless units...
@richardmaddever2121
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Just re-read your website on FLB systems and your comments above - purchased a Spirit (they now do a GPS option too for some confidence). Thanks!
@CRUZROYHelicopters
3 жыл бұрын
how do you program the voices when you hit switches ?? please help
@rl2rem621
3 жыл бұрын
John, the cord on your H1 is as you say about 16" long... the unit I just got and others I see advertised are about 3.5" long. I am building a 505 also and the cord is too short to get past the canopy . Where did you get the one with the longer cord ? Is there an extension ??
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
The one I got from Banggood (link is in the description) came out of the box with the GPS pod harness of that length. No idea if there are extension cables & perhaps they decided to change the length of the cable. I don't sell theses things (I don't even recommend them for the vast majority of people for obvious reasons), so I have no idea what they are currently shipping with. Ask FlyWing or the vendor.
@RomeoV96
4 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I recently came across your channel as I'm teaching myself to fly a heli. I think you're right on this it doesn't help or teach you to fly however, if you were learning and using the 3 axis gyro then panicked you can flick it into gps to save you? It's like a cheap 3gx? What would your thoughts be? Also I thought the video was great at explaining the programing and everything! I hope flywing take onboard what you said
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
This flight control system may work for rescue (clunky), but there are far better FBL units with proper rescue functions such as the Ikon, Bavarian Demon, Spirit, & Vbar. I talk about these FBL units in detail along with "rescue" mode on my Best FBL system on my website: www.rchelicopterfun.com/best-flybarless-system.html
@nhsledfreak
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, I purchased the H1 for my Trex 470L. I'm a bit confused on supplying power to the unit. Can I not plug directly from my ESC into the unit? I will be using the Paladin PL18 which came with the receiver that they suggest using for this H1 setup. If you cannot connect it to the ESC I'm confused on how it gets power. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh my Trex 470L is using the stock ESC that came with the kit so I believe voltage is in the safe range.
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
I cover powering connectivity in more detail in the H1 setup video I did: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-helicopter-tips.html Yes, you can certainly power it from the BEC in your ESC (that's how I have it powered in the video). Just make sure your ESC's BEC output voltage is within spec as to what the H1 needs to operate at (6.4 to 8.5V).
@michaelmoore4378
Жыл бұрын
Hi John, would you install fly wing H1 unit on $5000 scale heli in your opinion.
@Rchelicopterfun
Жыл бұрын
Never; it was bad enough putting it on an $800 heli. 😄
@MegaControltv
2 жыл бұрын
I have a problem .. the H1 in the box say 5v-8.4v but in the manual say 2-6s ...What voltage I can use ?
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
@MegaControl - The H1 works at 6.0 to 8.4VDC. Your RX and servos also have to work at that voltage. The 2S to 6S is what flight battery voltage range the H1 can monitor through the monitor power plug. I never use that feature, so don't know how well it works. I ran the H1 in this heli at 7.5V (using HV servos of course).
@MegaControltv
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun thanks John for your help! :D Now I understand. But I have a the problem, my ESC have not BEC :D I need connect by "Y" conector a side with ESC an another side with power supply 7.4 .. but I think this "Y" conector must be have a resistance ?
@brianheaton5521
4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice little unit. Seems to have some bugs, but overall nice.
@Graham_Shaw
4 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt in my mind. When you were in that weird inverted mode, hovering inverted, and slowly sinking, I would not have been able to get out of the habbit of applying more negative collective to stop it from hitting the deck, the muscle memory is too strong for me to withstand. I would have been in the ground for sure!! LOL!!
@Thejasond1979
3 жыл бұрын
Yes me too! I would have burrowed that puppy right in
@ian4012
4 жыл бұрын
Hi John. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could share your radio settings? I'm new to opentx and want to use a radiomaster tx. An otx file would be awesome. Cheers
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
As I highly recommend to all folks new to OpenTX... Spend time on OpenTX University's website with radio in hand to learn the fundamentals of inputs, mixes, and outputs. There is a fantastic section in there as well under the heading helicopters in the "non fixed wing" aircraft section on the basics of collective pitch helicopter input,mix,output configuration. open-txu.org/ That is exactly how I learned it and what I base my setups on, along with the actual CP setup values which I've been using for years as both an instructor & on my own birds which is all covered in my setup & tips eBook. I don't share OpenTX heli files for 2 primary reasons. 1. They are all different for every heli because they go hand in hand with the mechanical setup of each helicopter. These are not simplistic quadcopters after all. Mechanical setup of the heli along with the specific flybarless system largely dictates the radio setup in other words. 2. The can of worms it would open because I know a good percentage of people would just fire the file into their radio, bind their heli, and not go though the mechanical & flybarless system setup steps to fine tune the values for their specific heli. Resulting in a crash the moment the skids get light and blame me for it. Been down that road before - no thanks.
@1948bluesman
3 жыл бұрын
did you sort the tail bobbing,mine is doing it and i need to correct it,any info much appreciated.
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
This question (among other common ones) is addressed in the H1 setup video I did in the description: kzitem.info/news/bejne/wI151I2ooqZyi34
@Sam-gr8pl
2 жыл бұрын
GPS rth will be work while you are flying inverted? Failsafe?
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
No.
@brianheaton5521
4 жыл бұрын
I need this in my life.
@SmalltimR
4 жыл бұрын
I can think of another purpose for this gyro, as it could be toggled to regain control during 3D maneuvers. In fact, I recently experience a crash with my 450 that could have been saved by such a feature
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it could? Rescue mode is not a feature that is advertised. There are far better flybarless systems on the market that have rescue modes that are purpose designed for that exact purpose (rescue during 3D), such as Bavarian Demon, Ikon, VBar & Spirit.
@smalltimer4370
4 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Hi and thanks so much for the info. I was not aware of rescue mode or its uses - and will definitely be looking into this
@SmalltimR
4 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Hi john, I have another question for you that I'm hoping you might be able to provide some insight on. With that said, I'm leaning toward the Ikon, though I was wondering if you knew, if any of the flybarless systems you mentioned allowed for simplified flying mode? For example; I have a V450D03 which offers three modes to fly-in, the first is a very simplified collective pitch type mode, which is great for circuit flying etc, whereas the second and third, are 3D modes, one light version(as I like to call it), with lower rpm and mild stick response, whereas the other is a higher rpm with aggressive control response. Thanks again for all your help on this btw, I truly appreciate it
@erich7431
4 жыл бұрын
Hi John, interesting little box. Any Idea if it can work with dsmx ?
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
You would need to find a DSMX receiver that has an S-bus output. I think there are a few aftermarket RX's with that feature, but since I don't fly Speky anymore, I'm somewhat out of the loop and not positive.
@bobbyboy1962
3 жыл бұрын
Great videos. I have been given a raptor 50 that i originally setup new about 10 years ago or so. Would something like this work in a heli that is nitro ?
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
electric only
@hermankoji
3 жыл бұрын
why is it when you switch from gps to 3d mode your blade pitch when to negative?
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
Because in GPS mode, the heli hovers at mid stick collective & if switched to 3D at mid stick, collective immediately goes to zero degrees (if the heli is setup correctly).
@hermankoji
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun gps mode @ mid stick is 0 deg. , is it? and 3d mode also. . hign, low at 10 & -10 on mine set up masuring it for 3d. but -4, 0, 10 at gps mode, isnt it?..im going crazy.
@elty19
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Just wondering... If I wanted to put this on an old Raptor 30... And leave the Flybar on... Would it be OK? 😊 Wanna put the raptor back into an old airwolf body! 😊 It's so old though I'm not sure I wanna convert to Flybarless or even if that's available!
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
It's for flybarless only. I also wouldn't trust it in a nitro.
@RcBachelor
3 жыл бұрын
Hi- Great Video - What do you think, can I use it for a 500 TRex/HK500 Flybarless Scaler? Which PRE SETUP can I use? I also fly with Horus 12S Open Tx Mode 2. Possible to send a prg file from Open Tx for that Heli?
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
I would personally not use an H1 in scale heli. Too robotic, too artifical in scale response, no way to turn the pitch gain down (even more critical on scale due to substantial lengthwise mass increase), and no room in the tail boom for the GPS pod. Just a few limitations that come to mind - there are more. I don't share my OPTX files because every heli is different in mechanical setup so file sharing just causes more questions & problems than it answers. I show exactly how to setup & configure the H1 in the H1 setup video. kzitem.info/news/bejne/wI151I2ooqZyi34
@PilotChris06FW
2 жыл бұрын
Is this limited to electric helis? Could it be mounted in a nitro if vibration dampened?
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
Nope - Single fixed throttle output - no way to set choke, start/fast idle, and then fine tune idle speed.
@PilotChris06FW
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Thanks for reply...I've gone BeastX with rescue. That unit sounds like a demo unit for helis only. You know like the demo key on an electronic keyboard for kids that plays a preset tune 🤣🤣
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
@PilotChris06FW - Yep, these GPS systems for collective pitch RC helicopters are never going to be as good or fly as well as a proper FBL unit like your Ikon - a superior performing system in all respects. Nice choice 👍
@ameersak
4 жыл бұрын
How can we connect this with Spektrum DX8 Gen2? I have purchased this and I realized it cannot be connected to spektrum transmitters. Please advise. Thanks.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it can be connected to a Speky RX with PPM or S-Bus output.
@GuniHunter
4 жыл бұрын
John Will it work on a Futaba 7C radio? Do you have separate tail motor on your helicopter?
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
No, you need 8 channels minimum, 9 even better if you want full functionality. The 505 heli used in this video uses a proper variable pitch tail rotor driven off the main motor.
@김도훈-g1n
4 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I've got a problem with installing my new helicopter in the assistant. After I connect my laptop with fc, the led flashes red fast. Then it flashes red slowly after my radio is on. This is not the same as your video, which flashes blue steady after radio is on. The assistant shows the 'Install new helicopter' interface at pre-connect status, but it disappears when fc is connected. Really appreciated if you tell me the solution.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
sorry, I have no idea???
@richardmaddever2121
4 жыл бұрын
My channels are wrong in the software. Channel 1-4 don't match the sticks when i move them and Im not sure what to do?! Any ideas? If I move the left stick the forward/back line moves in the software...
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
The H1 uses Futaba channel mapping. CH1 aileron, CH2 elevator, CH3 throttle (collective function for the H1), and CH4 tail/rudder. You would have to reconfigure the channel outputs in your specific radio to match that assigned configuration if you are not producing those same outputs. Channel mapping within the H1 setup is non-configurable.
@djsavada7033
2 жыл бұрын
thats nice for me cause im a beginner in heliflying. can you go in gps mode when you do a mistake? like a safemode?
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
GPS autopilot systems like the H1 won't do a thing to help a beginner learn to correctly fly collective pitch - they will only set you back. No the H1 is not meant to be a rescue system. If you want that feature, get a proper flybarless system with auto level/rescue mode.
@djsavada7033
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun i agree. but u can turn of the autostabilisation. and the best is i can use my tbs tracer reciever with it. so i dont need to buy another expensive radio.
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
Your original question was if the H1 can be used as rescue system - and as I stated in my reply, no it can't. It makes a horrible rescue system - most of the time the heli would crash long before the GPS system would stabilize it and get it back under control. As I said before, if you truely want a system with a save/rescue/safe function, get a proper FBL system with rescue mode that was actually designed to work for this purpose such as the Ikon, Bavarian Demon, MAAX, etc. They all have S-Bus RX inputs just like the H1 does so you can pair them with any S-Bus RX you want.
@djsavada7033
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun thank you for the tipp. Didnt know that you can use sbus on the others. Im new to helis, i comme from drone fpv flying and i want a new chalenge. So i think you are right, if i want to learn fly a heli correct, the h1 is not a good helper.
@ElecTrev
4 жыл бұрын
Also, does it do the figure 8 and circle inverted? Are those voice prompts coming from your radio? Do you have to have those? It seems to not have in-flight adjustable gain for the tail gyro? Am I right? I've never heard of a control unit before that didn't have that.Thanks again.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Don't know about the inverted circle & 8. I'll have to try it (maybe for a follow up or the setup video). At the time, I was too floored it even worked at holding the heli inverted perfectly still. The radio has the programmable voice prompts - they have nothing to do with the H1 flight controller or its operation. No remote tail gain adjustment, it's done in the wizard. There are several FBL units on the market that don't have remote tail gain, or they give you the option to disable it to free up other remote features such as cyclic gains, governor gain, or flight mode/rescue selections. For the most part, once you have your tail gain set, you shouldn't have to change it unless you have wildly different head speeds (and thus tail rotor speeds). Of course, the H1 only has a single throttle output, so there is no reason we would have large tail speed variation and need on the fly tail gain adjustment.
@骆鹏-u6m
4 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Do not attempt to fly automatically in inverted mode, which may result in a crash.
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. I actually just tired an inverted circle activation yesterday before seeing your reply. I quickly lost altitude the moment I engaged the circle activation toggle with total loss of collective control. I managed to saved the heli a few feet before impact by switching to 3D mode and correcting the flight attitude myself. This is something that needs to be mentioned in the manual.
@madmac5709
4 жыл бұрын
nice video. would love to see a full set up
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
Coming soon.
@madmac5709
4 жыл бұрын
John Salt that’s great news , been sitting on my trex 550 scared to fly it 🤦🏼♂️ been flying my trex ‘s 450 for couple years , decided to upgrade to a 550, feel like it might be too much so i got the h1, now they are both collecting dust lol h1 and taranis tutorial would be amazing 🥳 thank you
@takeshihatano1342
3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, I’m H1 user from Japan. I would like to ask how did you fix the tail bounce with GPS mode. Thx.
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
The usual stuff: experimented with gain settings, head speeds, and head dampening.
@takeshihatano1342
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun THX John! Did you manage “Self Stabilization” and “Fixed Braking Force” figures for GPS mode? “Swash Gain, EXP, Rate” parameters might only affect for 3D mode.
@helenhughes9768
4 жыл бұрын
Is it suitable for a large scale helicopter -3.5,10 pitch curve?Will it work with a governed head rpm esc?Did you manage to tune out the fore/aft bobbing?
@Rchelicopterfun
4 жыл бұрын
1. The system is calibrated for linear/symmetrical collective pitch ranges. It will work with scale type curves of course in 3D mode (3 gyro stabilization only), but hard to say what would happen in full GPS stabilization mode since the unit is expecting a symmetrical pitch range to function & react correctly. Scale application is also problematic with any of these GPS autopilot units (not just the H1) unless you don't mind the GPS pod on the outside of the scale tail boom. Most scale helis (even 700-800 size) won't have enough space between the internal tail boom and the external scale tail boom for the pod to fit between the two. 2. If your particular ESC governor works on a fixed throttle output (fixed governor mode in a Castle Phoenix ESC for example), then yes you can use a governed head speed by setting the throttle % output in the H1 to match the fixed governed selection in your ESC. 3. Yes, no more bobbing after more tuning but as I mentioned at the end of the video, it's very much a compromise. I can get it to work well on this heli in either 3D mode or full on GPS stabilization mode, but not both with the limited setup parameters that are made available to us, along with total lack of accessing the PID gains individually for each axis; specifically the pitch axis.
@helenhughes9768
4 жыл бұрын
@@Rchelicopterfun Many thanks for that.
@djlouis2150
2 жыл бұрын
Hey will the H1 work on my omphobby m2 explore helicopter
@Rchelicopterfun
2 жыл бұрын
As I stated in the video @3:55 the very smallest you could likely fit it is a 300 and even that would be a very tight fit. Way too big for an M2.
@djlouis2150
2 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks
@redbradfield1557
Жыл бұрын
Sweet
@bobbyboy1962
3 жыл бұрын
as i ask the question i hear you say you can run this in nitro heli as well, lol
@Rchelicopterfun
3 жыл бұрын
No it won't work on nitro - fixed throttle output - no way to start or adjust idle speed. Electric only.
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