In the 90's I managed an Irish pub in Zaragoza where another abort landing strip was situated. The NASA fire and medical crew were an amazing bunch of fellas from Texas, some of my best customers. One of our staff had a brother with Down syndrome who was fascinated by aircraft. They took us all to the landing site and took him out in the fire truck and gave him amazing gifts such a their mission caps and patches which were unique one offs and got astronauts to sign photos of themselves and the shuttle in the US and send them to him. The little guy was thrilled beyond belief. Proper Gents.
@nakfan
2 ай бұрын
What a lovely and heart warming story ❤️ Thanks. Per (Denmark)
@DigitalDiabloUK
2 ай бұрын
I suspect Zaragoza would have ended up been the primary diversion as it was generally near the launch arc for standard orbital insertion. But I suppose in the event of a failure, things could literally go sideways. 😂
@grahamrichards193
2 ай бұрын
In 1989 my wife treated me to a trail flight in a light aircraft at Manston. While we were running through procedures, before take off, a flight of about four A10 Tankbusters from USAF Lakenheath taxied along and took off from Manston’s runway. My instructor explained they were the “Dover Patrol”, pilots on a training run where they do a low level flight along the Channel, past the white cliffs. Apparently, this was something the American flight crew loved doing. We then taxied and took off, climbing to a height of 1000’ above the English coast. Suddenly, Manston control radioed us, asking if we had visible contact with the Dover Patrol? The next thing I know, I’m flying a light aircraft alongside the tankbusters! I think I remember that more than I do flying the light aircraft!
@shirleydrury5565
2 ай бұрын
I think you mean bentwaters😊
@grahamrichards193
2 ай бұрын
@@shirleydrury5565 ???
@trislanderadventures7831
2 ай бұрын
This was an absolutely brilliant video.We got a rescue dog brought up from Spain to Scotland in December 2020, and on the drive back down the Eurotunnel closed, hence the Spanish truck got stuck for a few days on Manston's runway! Crazy times!
@philiplarsen6557
2 ай бұрын
As a lapsed PPL holder and resident of Sandwich (Manston is visible just up the hill), this brings me right back to flying days. Great video and makes me want to fly again! Interesting that current and prospective MP Roger Gale is campaigning to reopen Manston...
@georginahallett8716
2 ай бұрын
I was stationed here in the RAF, January 1969 - March 1970, the cushiest posting ever😂..... I've just seen this pop up on my susbscribers feed, and haven't got time to watch at the moment, but will comment later when I've got more time. Lots of happy memories from the 15 months I was a resident🙂
@WARVIATION
2 ай бұрын
awesome
@waffoo999
2 ай бұрын
Did my PPL at Manston back in ‘91; one of my instructors during circuit phase used to say “less a circuit, more of a NAVEX”
@stevenbennett3922
2 ай бұрын
Need to add RAF Machrihanish to your list for the shuttle diversion field. At nearly 1.9 miles it had more than enough space.
@jasonvoak
2 ай бұрын
Manston is going to reopen to aircraft after a few court cases ...I live in ramsgate and it's going to be great for the area ...my favourite memories are when concorde came ,they also used to train pilots in jumbos touch n go circuits..
@scottisles3688
2 ай бұрын
I remember when Concorde came in there, it was incredible to witness!
@Matt-Durham
2 ай бұрын
What court cases were they? I'm really curious any links
@iscmiscm
2 ай бұрын
@@Matt-Durham There is one person that keeps trying to derail the reopening using our courts.
@jasonvoak
2 ай бұрын
@Matt-Durham if you serach manston airport judicial review it should come up ..
@59patrickw
Ай бұрын
@@iscmiscm if she moved in before the air field was in use then she can complain if not she got not complaint I used to live 1.4 miles from there when it was operational no problem and brought up in the 1960 in a village 3 miles from there loved to see the aircraft and witnessed the planes used for the film the battle of Britten there and the flew out over my old school what a sight
@InducedBank
2 ай бұрын
Lovely explanation of the long and fascinating history of the airfield, and very nicely presented Terry! That low pass along the runway really shows just how ridiculously long it is!
@martinsmith8572
2 ай бұрын
I remember driving past there years ago when it was operational and couldn't work out why I was seeing commercial aircraft on what I thought was an RAF base. You basically answered every question I wanted to ask, so I class that as being an excellent video. Thank you for sharing.
@yournway
2 ай бұрын
"Before we take off let's have a little check, of the things that can kill you" That's the best business case description of the need to follow check lists I have ever heard. Thank you for sharing.
@howardgraff4084
2 ай бұрын
Yes, I was thinking that too...and yet Terry chose not to use a checklist! A bit like that Vlogger who flies TBMs. He never uses checklists either!
@chrismarsh8623
2 ай бұрын
Flap check ? !!
@steveday6251
2 ай бұрын
RAF Manston was my first posting in 1974 after completing RAF Air Traffic Control trade training. It was one of the best postings I had in my 28years service. Not only was it a MEDA ( Master Emergency Diversion Airfield) is was also one of the 2 UK Foamer Units. This meant we could lay a path of foam along the runway for an aircraft with an undercarriage malfunction to land on. The foam suppressed the sparks caused by the aircraft body / wing dragging along the runway. In my 2 years there I had 3 AC foam incidents a Victor and 2 Canberra's. One of the Canberra's came in with complete UC malfunction and on one engine then as it passed over the threshold of 28 the other engine cut out so it slide down the foam, quite a night. It was also the base of 72 Sqn D-Flight which flew SAR Wessex helicopters. great times
@kennethausten
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I was born in Margate and lived opposite Manston as a child. It was some distance away with a railway line in-between, but I remember seeing the Americans parachuting down with Jeeps as well. Years later I worked as an electrician on the site contracting when it was a passenger service. Now live in Wales retired. Spitfire hurricane museum was always worth a visit. Appears they have the go ahead now to bring it back to life. Hope to pop back soon to check out the museum. Thanks again
@kevinnorthfield5097
2 ай бұрын
When it was a military base it was classified as a Military Emergency Diversion Aerodrome (MEDA) as it was capable of taking any size of aircraft.
@scopex2749
2 ай бұрын
I have flown in here many times whilst in the RAF. One time in a VC-10 we had an engine fire and they were getting ready to lay the 'foam carpet' as Manston was the only place in the UK they could COVER the runway wth foam. Luckily we dealt with the fire and returned to Brize for a 3 engine recovery.
@TheBioniXman
2 ай бұрын
Really? As a young SAC rigger we used to watch the fire secon cover the runway in foam at Leeming.
@gordy4459
2 ай бұрын
I was a fireman at Brize Norton during the 70's and 80's and can remember a VC10 with hydraulic problems diverting to Manston where they were looking at laying a foam carpet ready for a gear up landing...Thankfully though the crew managed to get the gear down and locked and the aircraft made a normal landing...
@currentfaves65
2 ай бұрын
Perfect mix of "fun and facts", thanks for bringing us along !
@robertsneddon731
2 ай бұрын
The family of a friend of mine owned a flying business at Manston back when it still had a RAF flight training operation. They were part of the initial effort to prevent developers planting expensive houses along the runway. One other use for Manston was to handle influxes of transport aircraft carrying relief supplies for disaster recovery operations in Europe and North Africa, since it could easily take heavies and marshal them without crowding, and there was decent road infrastructure to bring in supplies. I remember seeing Antonovs on the apron for one such emergency operation back in the 1980s.
@RJVEK
2 ай бұрын
Fantastic. There are yellow ribbons tied near the old airport buildings- meaning that one day Manston will return and fly again- fingers crossed it does- major boost to the local economy.
@wkboggs5
Ай бұрын
Beautiful!! Terry, I’ve been away from aviation related content for some months and now to find a back-log of Short Field episodes is stoking the fires again!😊 Thanx for being there. Bill in south Shore, Ky
@ShortField
Ай бұрын
You are awesome Bill thanks brother.
@martynbrinton
2 ай бұрын
My absolute favourite IRL Pilot videos on YT. Another great video Terry.
@ShortField
2 ай бұрын
Thank you Martyn.
@saintuk70
2 ай бұрын
Bit mixed in terms of whether Manston was a NASA Emergency Shuttle diversion strip between sources. There are a few in the UK, RAF Fairford and the equally as big RAF Machrihanish (which I lived next to when still active), both 1,000ft longer than Manston. Nice video.
@beeble2003
2 ай бұрын
I can't find any reliable source that says Manston was. As you note, the runway is too short -- the Shuttle needed 10,000ft -- but also the Shuttle's supersonic approach wold be right over London if it landed at Manston.
@saintuk70
2 ай бұрын
@@beeble2003 Yeah, I had these thoughts too regarding proximity to London. Also, Manston transferred back to the RAF and civies in the 60's, Fairford - Machrihanish - Zaragosa all were/are USAFE bases. Given the sensitive natural of some Shuttle launches, they'd really want a USA military presence. The likes of Machrihanish had one of only two "off-soil USA" deployments of SEALS due to the nuclear weapon storage and aircraft movements etc..
@phoenixclc1
2 ай бұрын
It was not an ELS either.
@alanjrobertson
2 ай бұрын
Very interesting bit of history! Nice video. Glad they didn't build houses on it!
@jpa1880
2 ай бұрын
Hi, I just wanted to let you know how much I love your channel. I'm a massive aviation fan, unfortunately haven't yet been able to do my PPL, but I'll get there. The main thing I enjoy (and admire) about your videos is your self-analysis and the insights you give into the mentality one needs to be a successful (ie, still alive!) pilot. You are never afraid to admit to mistakes, and it's an invaluable learning resource for other pilots. I also watch a guy called Hoover, (channel is called Pilot Debrief), and I think he would thoroughly approve of the way you self-critique. I'd love to see him do a video on your 2022 incident, and im sure he would agree completely with your own breakdown of what happened, and what we can all learn from it. Keep up the brilliant work, I'm convinced that pilots like you, by taking the time and trouble to share your knowledge and experience, are helping to save lives every day. Thank you, JP.
@andyduggan7810
2 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable, thank you. I was in an Air Training Corps camp at Manston in the late 70s. Flew in a Chipmunk, Dove and Dominie - coincidentally all DeHavilland planes. I can remember a Canberra landing with a major emergency, so it was still a useful place for planes in distress. My indistinct memories are that it was semi-deserted then. I can remember a forlorn early mark Lightning standing on its own among lots of disused office buildings.
@stephenbarrette610
2 ай бұрын
I flew in a chipmunk in the 1960s, with my schools CCF / ATC it was a lot of fun! And I remember seeing a Lightning takeoff at the Farnborough airshow back in the 60s and it was awesome. It just went straight up, almost vertical or so it seemed!
@stewartmackay
2 ай бұрын
Super video and really interesting, thanks.
@ShortField
2 ай бұрын
So nice of you Stewart.
@AJ-qn6gd
2 ай бұрын
Manston was the emergency landing strip for Concorde if Heathrow was fog bound, I saw it take off from there in the early nineties also saw the Vulcan XH558 fly from there the day before its last flight before being sold off.
@ThePerilleux
2 ай бұрын
Did my RAF flying scholarship and PPL at RAF Manston at TG Aviation in 1987. It was indeed a huge runway, and I recall thinking of the winds were strong enough that I’d be able to land across that runway 😅
@swisssteve253
2 ай бұрын
Flew in and out of RAF Manston during Navy BFT raining in a Gazelle helicopter back in 1984. Had a bird strike on take off -made a bit of a mess on the canopy.
@peterguise6087
2 ай бұрын
Manston was also one of my landaways on my QXC, staring at Lydd, plus I live in Maypole. Thanks for posting this.
@michaelherriott9230
2 ай бұрын
Hi Terry Thanks for super video of Manston as i am 81 born 11 Nov 1942 and like aircraft regards Mike keep safe Terry.
@jameshall6954
2 ай бұрын
Great video. My dad flew a Piper tri-pacer out of Maypole before moving to Clipgate farm a few years before Maypole closed. We flew in and out of Manston several times, also using the grass runway. Also did many airfields and strips in Kent, Essex and the near Continent.
@TheDunky55
2 ай бұрын
Stayed at RAF Manston for a cricket tour in 1992.From RAF Valley. Great time and some lovely Cricket venues in Kent.
@idlewise
16 күн бұрын
@3:50 I'm surprised you mention the engine noise. What's annoying from the ground is the prop noise! Anyway, great video!
@phileagle8432
2 ай бұрын
Fabulous video! I had no idea of its history!
@brandonmcheyenehoward1077
2 ай бұрын
Flew chipmunks here in with cadets in the 70’s 80’s got my PPL here too. Can see the runway from miles off. some great air shows every year ❤
@trevormoat6919
Ай бұрын
I was stationed there in the late 1970's and remember some light aircraft landed across the runway, yes it is that wide.
@tomsaxon831
2 ай бұрын
Takes me back to 1974 when I was stationed at RAF Northolt and was able to hitch a ride on the H S 125 to do circuits and bumps at RAF Manston. I was 17 at the time and it was the first time I had ever heard of the place and the first I had ever Flown. Happy Memories
@heli-crewhgs5285
2 ай бұрын
HS125 - no need for all those gaps.
@tomsaxon831
2 ай бұрын
@@heli-crewhgs5285 Thank you so much for pointing out the glaring e r r o r ! ! 🖕
@stephenbarrette610
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for that brilliant video. It brought back happy memories of being in my school’s Combined Cadet Force and spending an amazing long weekend at RAF Manston back in the 1960’s. I got to fly with an actual RAF pilot who let me take control of a de Havilland DHC-1 Chipmunk for 5 minutes. I suspect he was trimming everything but I did roll it upside down! Unforgettable moment until that was repeated at RAF Chivenor in Devon a year later when I flew in a glider as well, which was unreal. I also went to RAF Waddington later that year in a copter tracking ‘enemy’ submarines, sick bag at the ready! So cool that Manston was a potential safe landing site for the Shuttle. I’ve been a bit of a space nerd for the last 60 years. Great channel.
@rutchiemctavish
2 ай бұрын
Great video - so interesting to see you land at Manston. Read so many accounts from pilots in ww2 who were based there. What a great entry for your logbook!
@DoRullings
2 ай бұрын
The history alone makes this great runway worth to be preserved. I visited the Norwegian Armed Forces Aircraft Collection today and the aircraft I spend the longest time admiring was, of course, the great Spitfire. Thanks for your nice videos, often with interesting bits of history. Greetings from Oslo!
@geoffreycoan
2 ай бұрын
I went to the same Manston fly-in, one to get in my logbook, and it fitted in perfectly to the schedule of a French tour; Border Force were on site so I was able to land there from Calais on the Saturday. The museum is well worth a visit, we spent an enjoyable afternoon there before heading back home about 5:30pm.
@sv4stampe
2 ай бұрын
RAF Fairford was the only Transoceanic Abort Landing site for NASA's Space Shuttle in the UK. As well as having a sufficiently long runway for a shuttle landing (the runway is 3 km long), Fairford also had NASA-trained fire and medical crews stationed on the base.
@ShortField
2 ай бұрын
True but there were many diversionary airfields that were identified and placed on standby throughout the World. These were not primary but were capable of accepting a shuttle in trouble and were in the shuttles database. Manston was one of those.
@diamondderek848
2 ай бұрын
RAF Fairford was the main ABLS in the UK for the Shuttle. All the fire Service on the base at that time was trained for shuttle landings.
@anthonyg4671
2 ай бұрын
@@diamondderek848 why not repeat the first comment 🙃
@1960dave1960
2 ай бұрын
I did think, before I watched this particular video, he was going to about RAF Fairford, (or should I say, USAF Fairford)
@andrewmeadows2596
2 ай бұрын
@@anthonyg4671 why not repeat the first comment🙃
@MrRipper1956
2 ай бұрын
We in the USAF flew into manston occasionally. It was great on weekend cross-countries in the 1980s because of the "Dover tour" started there. A retired RAF controller who I later worked with said they would do a running commentary from manston all the way down to Dover while maintaining VFR offshore position. It was a brilliant ploy to increase traffic and the cost of doing business at manston. It allowed controllers to train with various performance aircraft and was a lot of fun for us flight crew members doing it. Somewhere. I have a video on one of those flights that we flew as a two ship of Phantoms maintaining 3 Mi offshore and the controller giving constant description of what we were looking at. Great memories indeed. Thank you Carole
@Hrossey
2 ай бұрын
I got my hole on that runway on 1973. ✌🏻😉🤣
@kevinm498
2 ай бұрын
Did my AEF most weekends from Manston. 1 AEF in Chipmunks or 617 VGS in grob 103s. I remember watching Concord take off and land during one weekend of gliding. Amazing having a birds eye view of Concord.
@robinlaurence8468
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great little video on Manston. Those of us that have fought hard to get the Airport reopened are highly delighted that it will now reopen. I spent many years flying at Manston and it's great to see it coming back life.
@pivotalmike
2 ай бұрын
And there are more of us who are not looking forward to Manston reopening as a cargo hub, if the plan ever gets investment which I doubt. Ramsgate residents won't appreciate the early morning and late night landing slots that are being touted as the main selling point of the proposed operation, with arrivals from the east passing over the town at 800 down to 400 feet. Don't get me wrong, I had my first ever flight from Manston in a Chipmunk and the occasional RAF traffic in the 1960's was fine. I was also one of the last to fly my plane out of the airfield on its last day of operation. But causing so much disturbance, loss of tourism etc. for the sake of seeing aircraft again and creating a small number of jobs is not progress I'm afraid.
@robinlaurence8468
2 ай бұрын
@pivotalmike so, apparently you are a private pilot. So where are you flying from now, if anywhere. Very strong anti Airport views. I'm also a Ramsgate resident living directly under the flight path. I find it amazing that you still believe that the airport is not good for the area. The planes are coming and the jobs are coming as well, so you'd better get used to the idea.
@pivotalmike
2 ай бұрын
@@robinlaurence8468 I was a private pilot for 15 years, but medical issues stopped me 3 years ago. At that time I was based on a strip near Cambridge. I don't believe that the airport is viable for cargo, wrong place and plenty of capacity elsewhere. As for jobs, remote tower almost certainly, and not many jobs required for cargo. Not sure what they are smoking at RSP but several reports have said so as well. In the 10 years lost so far it could now be a thriving town with a commercial park and could even have retained a GA field/helicopters. As you are strong pro-airport let's agree to disagree and call it a day?
@neildpadmore
2 ай бұрын
Watching from Zimbabwe... Awesome video!
@445fhn
2 ай бұрын
Thumrait in Oman was also a designated shuttle emergency location. My late Father was part of the team who built the runway there.
@Philg0jba
2 ай бұрын
Terry, I live very near to the former RAF Ash and look across the valley at the Manston Runway. I noticed several Light Aircraft parked up when I went past the Museums. I enjoyed the Video, very interesting and well presented. You certainly 'Filled your Boots' Phil
@littlepippin8445
2 ай бұрын
I served at RAF Ash. Dozens of radar positions down in that bunker that never got used properly.
@Philg0jba
2 ай бұрын
@@littlepippin8445 I met a chap who served there (he lived in the MOD houses in Sandwich) and he told me the former station commander bought the place off the MOD in 1996 for £1,000,000. It is a big site.
@alexangus9966
2 ай бұрын
Manston is just down the road from me. There is a little air museum with a cafe which is well worth a visit.
@Jimages_uk
2 ай бұрын
Manston is due to open again at some point, as a cargo hub, bringing jobs to the south east of Kent
@philgould4569
2 ай бұрын
Lovely plane. A work colleague flew me from Huntshaw grass strip near Torrington and over my house in Bideford. I used to make close-fitting covers and seats for them. Good memories.
@jamespurs
2 ай бұрын
What a beautiful flight, thank you so much for this! We need to keep hold of our history fields
@russefrance4869
2 ай бұрын
Back in the '80's. I had a share in a light a/c and we used to fly to Calais/Le Touquet/Oostende most weekends. Always called Manston at 'North Kent Coast', 'Canterbury' and 'Coasting Out' at Dover. Even then, our aircraft was a quite old C172. Just checked and it's still flying!😮
@KEVSTER1230
2 ай бұрын
Great upload Terry, really interesting... Thank you
@sarahcolliver7650
2 ай бұрын
Wow ! That was an awesome video. So interesting. Keep them coming 🤣.
@gordon1966
2 ай бұрын
thank you for this video , we are looking forward to manston opening again soon ..
@andyyoofoo897
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting...Manston airport will be back😊
@andrewthomson5498
2 ай бұрын
I was in the ATC back in the army 70s and flew , RAF chipmunk the only time , they used to have air show there. In the 80s as well ,and concord flew in . Great times hope it used again
@howardgraff4084
2 ай бұрын
One of my flying friends tells a funny story about landing at Manston when it was open to GA. When on final approach the controller asked him to land long because of the traffic and the far-distant exit from the runway, but my friend landed as usual on the piano keys as per training. He was then asked to take off and land further along the runway which he then did....and when he went to the tower to pay his fees, they jokingly asked him for two landing fees. True story!
@russ8211
2 ай бұрын
Beautiful take off Terry.
@WARVIATION
2 ай бұрын
very interesting airport ! loved the video stay safe!
@originalforgery
2 ай бұрын
Went to the Gambia years ago. Their airport was also on the list of emergency runways. Can you imagine....??
@zeberdee1972
2 ай бұрын
Last time I was at Manston was on a course at the fire school just before they shut it down . Another space shuttle emergency landing ground would be wide awake airfield on Ascension Island , another place i spent some time at .
@dominiqueroudier9401
2 ай бұрын
13:49 Istres le Tube have à 5000m runway!!( 16.500feet😮😮)
@CUfkes
2 ай бұрын
Flew into Manston onboard an EUJet Fokker 100 many years ago. Was a very quiet airport by that time already.
@UbuntuSuperUser
2 ай бұрын
Here in the states my hometown lost both grass airstrips on either side of town. Both used to be cool recreation airports with one serving peoples businesses on that side of town.
@Heneling
2 ай бұрын
Great stuff, glad to hear it will likely stay as an airfield! I am organizing a fly-in at the Disused Colerne airfield in wiltshire, would be great to have you there if it goes ahead (still getting permits at the moment).
@nicorchard3559
2 ай бұрын
Sorry we missed you. We may have been on the way for a well-earned drink by the time you reached the museum area. Kent Strut Gang.
@richardparrott7192
2 ай бұрын
That was great! Will have to check out this in MSFS. I kind of think of the UK as one big airfield 😉
@toxictony4230
2 ай бұрын
Warton Aerodrome was also a designated Shuttle landing site. It's also the second longest runway in the country at 2,400 M.
@lauriestlyon8773
2 ай бұрын
"That's no Small Field...That's a REAL Station!"😄
@peanuts2105
27 күн бұрын
I heard Manston is coming back! Top fact: British Airways landed their A380s there for crew training before operations
@ShortField
20 күн бұрын
I heard that as well.
@NissanEVOwnersUK
2 ай бұрын
I went there a couple of times when it was a commercial airfreight airfield. From the ground, it was odd to watch aircraft disappear over the horizon on the ground, to reappear airborne a short time after.
@beeble2003
2 ай бұрын
Sorry, but the idea of Manston being a Space Shuttle emergency landing site is just an urban legend. For example, the RAF Manston History Museum doesn't mention the Space Shuttle on its website. The key issue is that the Shuttle required a 10,000ft runway and Manston's is only 9,000ft (2740m). The UK Transoceanic Abort Landing site was RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire. TAL is a very specific scenario in which an engine failure 150-300 seconds into the mission means that the Shuttle is going too fast to return to the east coast of the US, but too slow to get into orbit. Several other air bases in the UK (all with 10,000ft runways) were designated as possible emergency landing sites if the Shuttle needed to urgently leave orbit, e.g., because of a medical emergency. You also have the timeline way off. You say that, around the time RAF Manston transitioned into a civilian airport, NASA was looking for "emergency landing sites for its brand-new Space Shuttle programme". Kent International Airport opened in 1989, by which time the Shuttle had been flying for almost a decade! Also, NASA very much preferred military bases -- ideally USAF bases, which Manston hadn't been since 1958 -- as landing sites. When they used civilian airports in the US, it's generally ones with attached Air National Guard bases. Unless necessary to save lives, they're not going to want to leave the Space Shuttle in the hands of the Kent Constabulary while they get their own personnel in from, er, wherever the closest US military presence to Ramsgate is. Although Manston is in a quiet location, its approach path is not at all suited to the Shuttle. The Shuttle glides supersonic until about 30 miles before landing, so landing at Manston would crack sonic booms all over London.
@derekheeps1244
2 ай бұрын
Actually , the best known TAL site was RAF Machrihanish on the Kintyre Peninsula . The second airfield to be built on the site , after the original WW1 field which was used s an airship base , was used by the RNAS and then later upgraded during the cold war for use by our V-Bomber forces and also NATO forces , which included storage of nuclear weapons and training facilities for US Navy Seals . Because of its isolated location , and the fact that the runway exceeded 10,000ft , this was the prime TAL site for the shuttle , given it was surrounded by water east and west , and open country for the most part . RAF Machrihanish closed in the 1990s with parts of the site being sold off to the community , and with Campbelltown Airport now operating there , using approx 2/3 of the runway - although the entire runway is still there .
@JTV84
2 ай бұрын
nice landing.
@heffone1
2 ай бұрын
I work for one of the charities that befits from the fly in THANK YOU. from your newest subscriber.
@AndrewLumsden
2 ай бұрын
👍👏 At least it was not being used as a lorty park for any cross channel backlog when you were there! 🙄😖🤣
@billynomates920
2 ай бұрын
i grew up near brize - needless to say would have made my day to see the space shuttle gliding in for a landing 😆
@TheBioniXman
2 ай бұрын
You would need binoculars as Manston is a very long way from Brize.
@TheBioniXman
2 ай бұрын
Flew in there in my microlight, as part of the RAF MFA, in the late 1990s. Concorde was loading up as we were parking up on the other side of the pan. The RAF was just in the process of closing the military part down at the time.
@glhx2112
2 ай бұрын
Pretty cool, I did not know there was another Shuttle emergency landing option in England other than RAF Fairford, where NASA kept a few personal in case of a transoceanic abort landing . When I was stationed at RAF Bentwaters we were told RAF Woodbridge was an option just in case, and we would be notified when there was a launch just in case......
@laguna3fase4
2 ай бұрын
I flew into Manston on a RAF VC10 in the 1980s collecting military passengers .
@simonsdiesel
2 ай бұрын
Great program, well done, you should have tried your luck for a few touch and goes Tornado style 😂😂
@ShortField
2 ай бұрын
Next time!
@gordslater
2 ай бұрын
2 sites in Morocco were also Shuttle Transatlantic Abort Landing fields - initially Casablanca, replaced by Ben Guerir in 1988 until the early 2000s. I believe Ben Guerir was on standby for 80+ launches and had the full permanent fitment of the Shuttle Microwave Landing System. I think, but haven't had it confirmed, that less-used fields may have had the MLS set up in the months ahead of a planned launch, proven by several approach tests using various test aircraft, then removed if no further launches required it in the following year or two. Lajes in the Azores was similarly used, as was Kano Nigeria and Dakar Senegal for some launches. The selection of abort fields was largely based on the ground track of the launch (depending on the work orbit required, this could vary by quite a lot) and several fields were selected to give weather contingencies.
@user-wd4ti8gn3o
2 ай бұрын
RAF Manston was the most RAF base shot by the Germans and Italy in WW2 my Grand uncle was bombed in RAF Manston in The Battle of Britain. RAF Manston later where the MOD Fire Sevice school, there is ghost of Hurricane and Spitfire over the base.
@martinhsl68hw
2 ай бұрын
Great stuff - thank you! It would be amazing if it came back online
@andrewhopwood500
2 ай бұрын
RAF Fairford was the only TransOceanic Abort Landing site for NASA's Space Shuttle in the UK. As well as having a sufficiently long runway for a shuttle landing (the runway is 3,045 m (9,990 ft) long), it also had NASA-trained fire and medical crews stationed on the airfield.The runway is rated with an unrestricted load-bearing capacity, meaning that it can support any aircraft with any type of load.
@ShortField
2 ай бұрын
True, but others were listed as alternatives in case it couldn't make the primary, these were suitable in length, location and infrastructure. Although there were no NASA trained operatives at any of the others during a launch they were still marked as options and as I say in the video Manston was on standby along with the others and one I missed RAF Elvington.
@beeble2003
2 ай бұрын
@@ShortField I can't find any reliable source that say that Manston was a standby landing site. Its runway is 1000ft too short and it would put the Shuttle's supersonic approach right over London.
@villiamo3861
2 ай бұрын
Not specifically mentioning Manston, but I note that Brize Norton is mentioned as one of a non-exhaustive 'list' of TALs ('for a typical flight there are several possible TAL landing sites', with BN being identified as one of the possible resorts in such a flight). The source is Technical Memorandum 108432 of NASA.
@marklewis3348
2 ай бұрын
@@ShortField Interested to know your source for this. I've seen plenty of RAF bases mentioned as emergency landing sites for the Shuttle but not Manston.
@ricardo1957
2 ай бұрын
I agree with you RAF Fairford because I thought that Shuttles had to use Strategic Air Command (SAC) bases which at the time Fairford was.
@scottisles3688
2 ай бұрын
My Grandad worked at Manston for decades, and as a history-lover from a very early age I used to frequent the museums there endlessly with my Grandparents. My Grandad had many funny stories from his time there: standing at the urinals next to Douglas Bader and Bob Stanford-Tuck; multiple Russian (Soviet) pilots who insisted on taking him to their cabin to drink their homegrown concoctions; and a flight with a German pilot on a Lufthansa flight, who retorted that the last time he had flown over the airfield he was bombing it! It is a superb place, and hopefully won't be lost to property development; however, its time as a large-scale airport look difficult due to the amount of investment in the facilities and infrastructure it needs, and I think development encroachment on the flight line make future permissions probably impossible to obtain unless under emergency circumstances.
@robertw9651
2 ай бұрын
As a kid in the early 80s I used to live in the village of Minster at the west end of the runway had no idea that the airport was used for this purpose though!!!
@GrandpaTig
2 ай бұрын
Great video with lovely views over Kent and must be similar length to the old SW/NE runway at Throckmorton...🤔
@daviddack1930
2 ай бұрын
Another interesting fact. Manston airport was featured in the 1st ever episode of Gerry Anderson's 'Joe 90'. Joe McClain had to sneak into the old USSR and steal their secret bomber aircraft. You can find it on KZitem if needed
@chrisst8922
2 ай бұрын
Gerry Anderson was stationed there during his national service. He watched a wheels up landing on the runway and years later that was the inspiration for Trapped In The Sky.
@daviddack1930
2 ай бұрын
Now that I never knew. I live 1 mile from the airport and can't wait for it's new owners to get it back up and running. Maybe we should rename it after him
@chrisst8922
2 ай бұрын
@@daviddack1930 Thanks. In the episode (written by Gerry & Sylvia) commander Norman orders ''Crash crews to centre of 29''. Manston's runway designation is 11/29 whereas Heathrow's is 09/27
@bla855
2 ай бұрын
Shannon airport in ireland and a field on the south of Portugal are the first emergency landing ports for the US shuttles
@tranqjl
2 ай бұрын
Great film Terry, it answered along standing question of mine. I had an acquaintance who was a smuggler. He was involved in the first smuggling of illegal aliens, mainly asians, in the mid sixties. As well as by boat they also used a twin engine small plane and he told me they used to land at Manston. The modus operandi was based on the fact Manston had a very long runway. The far end of the runway could not be seen from the control tower . They would do an 'accidental' long landing to the far end where out would jump their passengers. 50 yards across the grass, over a waist high fence and into the car waiting on the A2. The plane would then taxi back to the hangars to clear customs. Easy. I saw the road was still there in your movie.
@stevenstyles7602
2 ай бұрын
😮
@abercass4683
2 ай бұрын
No doubt they will all make their way back when their free houses are built.
@tranqjl
2 ай бұрын
@@abercass4683 I would imagine by now 50 years on those still alive will not be wanting to go back to wherever in asia they came from. Its the ones coming now we need to stop.
@wildatlanticman128
2 ай бұрын
Shannon airport was the main emergency landing option.
@anconablue72
2 ай бұрын
Grandparents lived in a farm house at the east end on the left in the village, Demilished in 1997 redeveloped with 10 mock farmhouses known now as Highlands Glade.. spent many hours spent watching planes arrive leave/ Red Arrows training there back in 70's, and the wooden gliders launched by landrover fron infront of the contrl tower, Th Yellow Search and Rescue Sea-kings were stationed there until they moved to Ipswch? i was lucky enough to to take a Concorde pleasure trip from Manston there in May 2000, As a child i remember the runway being widened late 70/80's? huge huge works and there is lots of hidden infrastructure there..
@ashokaliserilthamarakshan5079
2 ай бұрын
Fantastic, loved this one. Hope to fly into Manston one day.
@Sarge084
2 ай бұрын
I took a team to RAF Manston to load a C130, it was a troop move so it was only Squaddies and their personal kit going off on some exercise or other! It was still a joint military/civil airfield back then, and the RAF fire fighting school was still operating there!
@rogerhibberd6821
2 ай бұрын
Lovely to see it might reopen again. My father was Commandant of the Fire Training School when it was there. I remember visiting it there and just as he did feel sorry about all the old planes there that they used for practice fires. Pity you didnt mention that.
@archangel6415
2 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed your commentary, just so well done a very loaded bunch of interesting recent history. When you pan out to show your plane, wow, what a beautiful little craft it is. It reminds me of the beautiful engineering of the e-type jag I fell in love with in the early seventies. Flying is the sport of the rich & too expensive for me to ever buy a plane and, way too late to learn to fly but this was a most enjoyable ride-along. Hope you can do more. Stay safe up there. Hey, for those who want to go a bit beyond the blue, I’d urge you look up Ray Comfort: “Living Waters”. No lessons required just a “mustard seed of faith”!
@ThePorridgeGobbler
2 ай бұрын
A nicely presented vlog, RAF Machrihanish and RAF Finningley were also MDA's for the shuttle, I never did get around to doing my PPL after leaving the RAF I wish I had now.
@brawdyboy1
2 ай бұрын
RAF Brawdy in Pembrokeshire and RAF Llanbedr in gwynedd were also MDA's, as well from what I remember.
@MrJohnyysmith
2 ай бұрын
Bit more info for you. In the 1950's I was in a crowd at an air display where an F86 Sabre approached the crowd line from the rear at about 200 feet. Different times. Must have been Manston as travel elsewhere would have taken many many hours In the 1960's the runway had the official designation of 'Diversionary'. I had the pleasure of 3 or 4 Chipmunk flights as an ATC member in the early 1960's The station included the RAF Fire Service, and I was told that it had the longest runway in Europe at that time before Jumbo's or Concords. An ideal place to lay a foam carpet for aircraft in trouble. The usual reason was a lack of 3 green undercarriage lights. And so a fly past was conducted and if the undercart looked ok, the aircraft landed before a foam carpet. A collapse would carry them through the foam. I attended just such an incident in 1966/7, when an Avro Vulcan landed ok and rolled through the foam. I never understood why spare instrument bulbs were not carried in the cockpit During the 90's or 00's it was used by the major airlines 'heavies' for pilot training, doing circuits and bumps It was named London Manston for a while and considered for a location for London's 3rd airport
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