That senior mechanic who discovered the DAMAGED jackscrew was one of my instructors for a & p school. I respect him greatly. His integrity cannot be overstated. He worked second shift for Alaskan Airlines. They wrote up the jackscrew assy as defective. Came in the next day and the plane was gone. The write up signed off. My instructor kept copies of all the maintenance he performed. When the plane went down he blee the whistle on the corruption involved and the local FAA looking the other way. His reward was to blacklisted from his career. Not too many men would do the right thing under those circumstances. John Liotine still has my respect. I hold myself to this guy's standard.
@mamindhive
3 жыл бұрын
Great respect for doing whats right, prayers for him
@nwgal7937
3 жыл бұрын
If you see that instructor again, please tell him thank you for being a stand up guy. Thank you. Integrity and character are endangered characteristics these days, he is a rare find.
@ItsVideos
3 жыл бұрын
Are you just repeating the story that your instructor told you, or are you basing it on concrete evidence? 2:48 - "They ask maintenance personnel if there had been any similarly logged incidents for the aircraft and for any solutions. They are told that there are no logged faults on the aircraft for the past 30 days."
@abubaca2683
3 жыл бұрын
@@ItsVideos you can actually go do your own research. He's listed in the Wikipedia article on the incident. You're free to believe orr disbelieve whatever you want. It's not my place to try and convince you of anything.
@ItsVideos
3 жыл бұрын
@@abubaca2683 The Wiki says he blew the whistle in 1998, so what do you mean when you say he blew the whistle "when the plane went down" (in 2000). The Wiki says he was working with the FAA by secretly recording his supervisors, and subsequently the FAA raided Alaska Airlines and got the maintenance records, so what do you mean when you refer to "the local FAA looking the other way"? He sued Alaska Airlines for libel and won a $500,000 settlement, and his resignation from Alaska Airlines was part of the settlement agreement. I think he did the right thing by blowing the whistle, but it's not surprising that he was blacklisted.
@brianlynch2512
2 жыл бұрын
I flew with Captain Ted Thompson in the USAF on the C-141b Starlifter he was an excellent pilot and a great leader! His professionalism and calmness under pressure is no surprise to all of us that knew him, god bless him and he is sorely missed!
@Abi-gg7ry
5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, who else thought this was going to have a happy ending at first? Poor souls.
@michaelvs.scorpio7676
4 жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT so too.
@SD-li9g
4 жыл бұрын
El Chavo no way ,we would have heard about it .
@nsr5961
4 жыл бұрын
El Chavo who else agrees they should install emergency parachutes to planes and deploy them as soon as they turn off plane engine? I mean if such situations it would save lives vs just crashing at full speed.
@ParkerAlexx87
4 жыл бұрын
I was genuinely upset :(
@troywright359
4 жыл бұрын
@@nsr5961 upside down, I'm not sure parachutes would have helped
@mae388
3 жыл бұрын
If I'm meant to die in a plan crash, I hope it's as fast as possible. To be in fear and tossed around for minutes before the end is just horrific.
@arrynbeacon8077
3 жыл бұрын
Or it can be complete peace, knowing the outcome
@chickenliver
3 жыл бұрын
This is why people are more scared of dying in a plane crash than a car crash. You have way too long to contemplate certain death.
@dariantaylor6080
3 жыл бұрын
@@arrynbeacon8077 if you listen to the phone calls made during 9-11, whether it’s someone trapped in the upper floors or on a hijacked plane, most of the callers are calm and even the background screams aren’t so bad.. not at all what I would have assumed
@arrynbeacon8077
3 жыл бұрын
@@dariantaylor6080 yes there were some who were calm but also some who were panicked, which of course is understandable. I guess people just react differently in different situations
@dariantaylor6080
3 жыл бұрын
@@arrynbeacon8077 it’s like not even close in numbers though. Overwhelmingly calm
@donnaturner1550
4 жыл бұрын
My neighbor and life long friend was killed on this flight. Still miss her and her kids were devastated 😢 💔 I will always keep Jan in my heart. She was always happy and laughing and I can still hear it
@taylorlatch94
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss
@Theoryu
3 жыл бұрын
I’m very sorry that happened.
@isayedit1806
3 жыл бұрын
Damn that got old ladies capping out here now... smh
@tamtam9342
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss ..may she enjoy peace not rest in it and by that I mean why rest in Paradise when she can look down smile and prepare for her family and friends
@KabbalahSherry
3 жыл бұрын
@@isayedit1806 - Hush you vile troll, and go back to your home under the bridge. 😤🧟♂️ Why's some boomer gonna come on here lying about this?! WTF?! She's not some weirdo... like the kinds of people who harass people online when they talk about their dead friends.
@garyblade2332
3 жыл бұрын
This is why passengers should not get too upset when their flights are delayed or cancelled. A responsible airline would give safety issues a higher priority than your convenience.
@mrhead6856
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you someone smart they should tell someone complaining well you can go but the plane will probably crash and kill you
@jinx6777
3 жыл бұрын
I remember my mom having a conniption because our flight to florida was delayed due to a malfunctioning APU. Now that I have a very minimal amount of flight training I'll never complain about a delayed flight again.
@countdown2xstacy
3 жыл бұрын
Better safe than sorry
@artwatch-y9j
3 жыл бұрын
What u said has nothing to do with the crash. The crash is because the maintenance was not done despite of knowing the problem.
@jamesbooker9411
3 жыл бұрын
Man, you're so right and I've never thought about it from that perspective before. You know the airline wants to send out as many planes as possible, because more planes flying means more money. So when there's a delay, it's pretty safe to assure there's a damn good reason.
@manuelescobio5932
3 жыл бұрын
I was one of the Coast Guard members on scene in the recovery efforts. This was the worse tragedy in my Coast Guard Career. I will never forget about it the images are still in my head.
@jillcooke7240
3 жыл бұрын
condolences x
@RadicalEarth
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service. Terrible day, for everyone including you.
@MegaWetbrain
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear mate. God bless you.
@LoganVerity
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service, it takes something else to be able to do what you did. God bless
@b.p.879
2 жыл бұрын
I could never have been in the Coast Guard. Just the thought of having to work so hard out in the elements aboard ships is hard to imagine. You guys and gals are freaking amazing.
@reggie7956
4 жыл бұрын
I really need to stop watching these....addictive content, but extremely painful at the same time 😭
@qlvinc
4 жыл бұрын
Reggie 72 it makes me even more scared to be on a plane
@chi7087
4 жыл бұрын
G B LOL. Right. I have a flight tomorrow and I’m compelled to ask the pilots how many flight hours they have and if they understand all procedures to take during an emergency.
@renagtz
4 жыл бұрын
@@chi7087 it doesn't even matter how many hours of flights they've done. It could be mechanical failures which is rare and most of the time very experienced Pilots make the worse decisions. Flying commercial is still the safest method of transportation but still scary.
@SkepticTalk
4 жыл бұрын
It is scary @chibailon @reno lopez but honestly the odds of this happening are way out there in the extreme. This is tragic, and yes it's because the right set of circumstances occurred due to improper maintenance that caused this. No matter how unlikely the event is, it doesn't provide catharsis to those that have been died in a tragic accident like this. The thing is, I feel this is more of a numbers game more than anything. Eventually if you do something enough times, as in millions of times in this case, people will make mistakes. These mistakes are not necessarily mistakes that were meant to be malicious, but by sheer accident where because of XYZ reason something wasn't checked multiple times because a maintenance guy was texted or distracted etc. at just the wrong times. Not using this as an excuse, but just explaining how things could be overlooked based on long odds. That said, domestic commercial airlines these days are INSANELY reliable and safe. Sure, you can get thrown around by some turbulence which can be scary, but the odds of a domestic plane crashing like the one seen here is about 1 in 10 million OR MORE. Think about it like this, if you look at domestic U.S. airlines (leaving out foreign airlines since they don't have the same regulations by the FAA), since 2010 over a decade ago, to my knowledge there have been no serious airline disasters on domestic commercial flights where everyone died in a crash. The main cause of deaths on domestic aircraft now are turbulence related, where someone trips, falls or hits their head. So there you have it. Over a decade we've had some close calls like the incident with Captain Sully, but there have been no major fatalities in over a DECADE. Think of all the millions and millions of domestic flights that have taken off and landed over the past decade! It's actually insanely reliable! You probably have a better chance of dying next time you take a dump in your bathroom than you do on a typical domestic flight. If you do anything enough times though, eventually there will be accidents, it's a matter of math. This includes taking an Aspirin, or even taking a piss.
@kelleymariejones6388
4 жыл бұрын
Reggie 72 what gets me is I hate to fly and won’t do it EVER, yet I sit here watching this shit, wondering why I don’t get nightmares!
@PeaceLoveandMolotovs
6 жыл бұрын
Two damn good pilots, they fought it until the last second. They will forever be my heros.
@ernstvanstangl1048
6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Here we go made me sad. They were men. No screaming just trying until the end.
@kevinmalone3210
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they were brave pilots.
@KrK007
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater They were following procedure when dealing with the problem. Even in the video there's dialogue between the maintenance on the ground and the pilots. They were doing things designed to try and regain control of the airplane. Blaming the pilots here is asinine.
@KrK007
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater Hey look, another asshole pretending he's hard on the internet. Funny, you did give an answer, but it just was in your usual moronic style. "asinine" about describes your attitude, if I'm feeling generous. I'm not. "Fucktard" sounds much more accurate. Sigh, another damn snowflake. Dismissed.
@KrK007
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater Unless it's YOUR hindsight... then it's about 0/0. There's no saving face now. You're just a moronic twit who thinks being an asshole makes him superior. With the horrendous lack of critical thinking you've displayed, I'm sure you couldn't free yourself from a wet paper bag if your life depended on it.
@jimmyd4282
4 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely terrifying. This is why I have severe anxiety on planes. You never know if you boarded “the wrong one”
@herrbonk3635
4 жыл бұрын
Last time I took a flight was in 1991. I usually go by train now.
@vinsanity982
4 жыл бұрын
@@herrbonk3635 that's funny because planes are safer than trains
@herrbonk3635
4 жыл бұрын
@@vinsanity982 Nonsens. You are thinking of high speed trains. I don't use them.
@vinsanity982
4 жыл бұрын
@@herrbonk3635 ok, show me something that can back that up
@herrbonk3635
4 жыл бұрын
@@vinsanity982 You don't even need statistics. A derailing train vagon (car) seldom kills people, maybe some poor dude with a bad heart. In contrast, derailing high speed trains have been seen to be trown up in the air so that several vagons crashes almost like a plane. Reducing the speed is everything. I simply don't want to go any faster than about 100 km/h.
@rommelrivera1186
3 жыл бұрын
The "Ah, here we go" phrase impressed me too. It's definitely not what I would have said under the same circumstances. It shows the bravery and professionalism that imbues the great majority of pilots and cabin crew. My small show of appreciation to them is to say thank you with a smile every time I offboard. It's the least I can do.
@kingstonjames8477
3 жыл бұрын
I think the movie Flight is based on this crash. One of the most influential demonstrations of never giving up until the last moment even if the odds are against you.
@ditzygypsy
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not based on this crash exactly, but that plane does get intentionality inverted by the captain to keep it from pitching downward. It is about his personal struggles in life and his addiction more than it is really about a plane crash.
@kaydens6964
2 жыл бұрын
@@ditzygypsy Pretty sure he meant the crash scene.
@super266
Ай бұрын
"Are we flying? We're flying". They included real-ATC chatter in the movie.
@super266
Ай бұрын
My dad flew Bell Huey in the 70's for an unspecified AF. His squadron buddy survived an incredible crash on a spec-ops extract: they were hit by SAM shrapnel and thought they lost all hydraulics because controls seemed unresponsive. What happened in reality is that hydraulics were still partially working, but stick feedback was lost. This made it seem like hydraulics were entirely lost. With smoke in the cabin and spiraling down to the earth, his buddy kept fighting the plane instead of saying 'fuckit'. He managed to land it with only minor injuries to everyone onboard. The moral is: "Never give up, never surrender".
@downyourtube
5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the saddest videos I've ever watched. I'm so sorry this happened. My heart aches.
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
5 жыл бұрын
To cheer you up, go watch the vid about Maggie. 17-year-old student pilot on a solo flight.
@johnchoate6909
4 жыл бұрын
Me too man....
@seathemarc4253
4 жыл бұрын
Very sad, it was preventable.
@flarehoodviperart2886
4 жыл бұрын
Fought to the very end, these brave men. Trying to even fight the plane upside down in a desperate attempt to stop the crash... May God rest their souls ♥️
@d.808lf5
3 жыл бұрын
A family friend's mother was on that flight. The friend got compensated but it was a mere pittance compared to the real loss. Years later while attending my annual flight training ground school this accident was highlighted for discussion. After seeing it in detail, the NTSB report and audio, I was very sad because of my indirect relationship. I let my friend know that the accident was being studied so that we can continue to learn and be better.
@joshl6275
2 жыл бұрын
The real shame of it is they already knew enough to avoid the accident. They just went out of their way to let the defective part remain defective because it would cost them money to fix. A comment above shows that the maintenance crew had discovered the problem prior to the flight but it was ignored by higher ups. When this came to light, it was swept under the rug! Honestly, willful violations of air safety regulations like this should be crimes punishable with prison time. Certainly loss of employment (at the c-level) and absolutely massive regulatory fines. That will never happen though. Your life is far less important to them than their corporate profits. And the government agrees.
@фукс7
Жыл бұрын
sorry to hear that rip
@hillarybillary21
Жыл бұрын
@@joshl6275 Well said, josh
@xisotopex
Жыл бұрын
was there really anything to learn from this that was not already known? dont take shortcuts. dont try to save money at the expense of critical systems...etc, etc...
@xisotopex
Жыл бұрын
@@joshl6275 precisely. only in a sane world... corporations ALWAYS try to save money from the bottom up, completely immoral, or amoral
@hayleydoesthings
4 жыл бұрын
The maintenance people shouldve been fired. “Oh jeez” “we’ll see you at the gate.” Like cool thanks for the help.
@railmaker
4 жыл бұрын
Maintenance people should be charged with negligence!
@abbey.belamour
4 жыл бұрын
I think, often times they are prayed from higher ups to cut corners..
@hayleydoesthings
4 жыл бұрын
Sew Me Something nobody paid them to not have appropriate concern for what was going on. At the very least they could’ve said “I’m sorry, we don’t know what’s going on” but they just acted like “oh I’m sure they’ll be fine, we’ll see em later and laugh about how panicked they were when the plane was malfunctioning. Planes never crash and no one ever dies in a plane crash, nope everything’s fine.”
@hayleydoesthings
4 жыл бұрын
Will Howard I’m not talking about ATC, I’m talking about the maintenance people that the pilots spoke to who were supposed to know what was going wrong with the plane, but instead blew it off.
@hayleydoesthings
4 жыл бұрын
Will Howard no biggie. I definitely wouldn’t expect ATC to be that much more help.
@a_c_rodriguez
6 жыл бұрын
I knew one of the pilots and it still affects me knowing how hard he must have tried to recover the airframe.
@AndrewPalmerJazz
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater The NTSB report characterizes some of the flight crew's decisions as "understandable," "prudent," and "appropriate," and other decisions as "not appropriate." If you think it's a fact, not an opinion, that the pilots killed themselves and their passengers, it's a fact that you're an asshole. Nowhere did the NTSB call the pilots a "FAILURE" in all-caps or call them killers.
@The68lespaul
5 жыл бұрын
what this ntsb # A-02-036 ? whats that mean ? I have a theory on this , I think had they stopped foolin around and just went directly back without anymore who ha , they may have made it back in enough time , I noticed they spent a lot of time doing other things , had it been me flying the plane I would instantly headed for the runway , I mean the instant I caught that wasn't working right, BAM, straight back no questions ,ive declared the emergency as I was heading for the runway, what they encountered was nothing to kid about, that was a extremely serious situation calling for immeadiate input, in which id of instantly headed for the nearest runway as I was heading for it, declaring the emergency, not wasting a single second of time, because when your that high, and going that fast, you have to think on the fly, to me that means get this damn plane back on the ground as fast as I humanly can , the end.
@ilovesteveclark6084
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater bullshit! Go read Duane Sanders's comment. Who are you anyway? What are YOUR credentials?
@ilovesteveclark6084
5 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewPalmerJazz thank you.
@ilovesteveclark6084
5 жыл бұрын
@@The68lespaul did you watch this? The pilots stated they were going to turn around and they were told NOT TO!
@xrro_
5 жыл бұрын
That moment in your mind saying, “I wish they made it.”
@The68lespaul
5 жыл бұрын
in regards to your statement, I too, wished that they had made it back to the runway, in this case, im a private pilot of much smaller aircraft, single engine fixed high wing Cessna 172 skyhawks, im certified in 5 types of single engine planes, anyhow, had i been the pilot in this case, I instantly would have slowed the plane down way down to almost stall speed, meaning til it almost falls from the sky to take off the pressure of the wind passing over the elevator that the jackscrew is connected to, you see, less wind pressure pushing against it the less it wants to be pushed or pulled, see,but as soon as I caught the problem I would have headed to the nearest runway right as I caught this serious very serious problem ,and made the mayday call as I was making my way back to the closest runway possible not caring which one it may have been, just wanting to land it A.S.A.P. saying mayday as im heading to the nearest runway, I understand the pilots idea of turning the plane upside down because it was always pitching downwards so naturally being upside down you would think, okay when we were up side right, it wanted to go down, but now that were upside down maybe it,ll want to go back up, but as we all seen it was to no avail at first it did seem to be staying up, as it did appear to continue to fly, but even being upside down it still pitched downwards , that has me somewhat confused as when it was flying normally it wanted to pitch down really ,really bad, you or anyone wouold think as the pilot did thought well if the plane was upside down it might stay up, which it did seem to work at first, but what happened ? as bad as it wanted to pitch down when it was flying normally you would think it would have flown and wanting to pitch back up, but after a a few seconds again it started pitching downwards again , for the life of me, this one I cant figure out, I too thought it would want to pitch back up being in that position but it still went down ???? im very sad about how hard these pilots tried to keep there plane flying, its heart wrenching reading what was said to the end, knowing all those on board were killed , I think of all those people , such a tragedy , and so terrible all the way around, yes, I did say to myself, I wish they had made it back, I always do in these video,s of why planes crash, and air disasters , there all extremely sad to watch , I wish more than anything that these multi billion dollar companies would come up with a way to never have another airliner crash ever again , there,s a airplane company that now has a plane that if the plane encounters trouble staying in the air, the pilot can deploy a parachute from the planes fuselage (main frame ) and like a man in a chute it allows the plane to safely float back to the ground without anyone getting hurt or worse yet, killed , now with this in mind, with the billions of dollars spent in this airliner industry they could easily incorporate very large parachutes onto these jet liners , so when they can no longer stay flying there large parachutes can be deployed by the pilots , make it to where the wings pop off, along with the tail section making the main body where all the people are as light as possible so the parachutes have a easier job of allowing the body of the plane to gently float down back to the ground with all on board alive and safe , I like this idea, everytime a liners in trouble everybody has to die, well my idea keeps everybody alive, isn't that the goal here ? ive been blessed by never having any problems flying my small planes, PRAISE GOD !!! but a company out in CAL. are building this plane its a small single engine like the ones I fly, but they come standard with a parachute in case of an emergency , in fact theres a video on here that shows the plane floating back to the ground and the pilot getting out unharmed , amazing right ? so if they can do it on his plane then why not put parachutes on the airliners ? if not the plane itself they should pass them out to the passengers as they board the jetliners so if the pilots says were going down everyone prepare to jump , they should be given that option to be able to save there own lives if they choose, and not go down with the plane and die in a huge ball of fire , in most of these accidents ill call,em that for now, every time our bodies never stay in one piece, when a plane hits the ground at over 600 hundred MPH our bodies bust apart in hundreds of pieces a foot here, a hand there, yes its true, you know this if you,ve been watching enough of these video,s that never does a body stay as we look if they had died on the ground, not the case, when they crash bodies turn into hundreds of tiny pieces some bigger than others some smaller than others but never a whole body is found in one whole piece , just doesn't happen , they find a head here, a leg there, and so on , its always been that way, in every air crash of a liner that's how they find the what were once people , now there just parts like the plane just tiny pieces both people and plane, most can never be identified because of this but D.N.A. has helped a lot in identifying loved ones remains now, it takes time but they do manage to tell who it is by this method or dental records or a tattoo, article of clothing, even in some cases the head is still intact and can be looked at to see the persons face still, I know this is hard to take, but its the reality of boarding a airliner and being involved in a crash of it, im so sorry to have to tell you this, as like you I too wish it didn't or never happens but , it does, an its awful to see the after effects of a airliners crash site fresh right after one crashes , theres video,s of that on here as well , I say either hand us all the passengers a parachute , or make the entire plane a strong enough frame and body tombe able to handle floating back to the ground by way of parachutes that can do the job of getting us back to the ground unharmed and alive in one piece, that would be a few solutions ive thought of ever since the wright brothers 1st flight, but parachutes weren't around back then, bad for those guys but good for us now in todays flying , I mean hey they have sky diving clubs all over the place these days people are willfully jumping out of good flying planes for the sake of sky diving , me ill stay inside the plane and fly it , if people want to jump out of a perfectly good flying plane well that's there right, as we all have the right to do as we please , so I say knock yourselves out, LOL have a good jump but as far as the airliner crashes , we should be able to jump out of one if its going to crash and theres the chance of being killed, im jumping , in that case I will jump out of the plane, but only if its going to crash , thank you for your comment , I hope they figure this out soon , id like to see the day come when no one has to die because they want to fly somewhere, GOD BLESS W.H.W. 9-1-19
@harena9460
4 жыл бұрын
It's so easy to say what we would have done if we were in the same situation. Much easier to say when we don't have all the facts. We also have to remember that the pilots were not only thinking of their passengers, but they didn't want to put down a damaged aircraft in a heavily populated city (LA) where there would have been an even larger death toll, had the plane crashed there.
@The68lespaul
4 жыл бұрын
waste of good air , do us all a favor, stop breathing ,lol, and lay off the drugs , dumb ass , isn't it time for you to change your diaper ??
@lemfandango
4 жыл бұрын
That's so brave of you
@conspiracytheorist1643
4 жыл бұрын
like the movie flight
@garryweatherly6590
3 жыл бұрын
This still makes me sick, we knew four people on that flight, Sarah, an off duty flight attendant, her husband and their two little girls. We knew Sarah when she was going to flight attendant school in Seattle, she was so sweet...
@wwlll8248
3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Evans You're a real nice guy. I wasn't allowed to post what I really wanted to say.
@christopherhoward1986
3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Evans asshole
@Cbd_7ohm
3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Evans lol
@Neddy540
3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Evans have some integrity
@ykyang5786
3 жыл бұрын
@Peter Evans A little respect for the dead sir.
@JoDaddysGarage
3 жыл бұрын
As a aircraft mechanic for 30 years, this is so distressing to watch and know what was happening. The problem today is a lot of jobs are being filled with "contractors". Not the same as dedicated mechanics. Pressure to complete a task should be at the bottom of the list.
@hillarybillary21
Жыл бұрын
Integrity is punished. Money money money money
@carreviewer6345
Жыл бұрын
@@hillarybillary21Yeah if compassion ain't profitable then don't do it ceos in a nutshell
@raiden000
4 жыл бұрын
were his lasts words really "ah, here we go"? if theres one thing ive learned from watching these videos its that pilots are the least dramatic most professional people on earth. i couldnt imagine staring at the ocean fast approaching like that and not completely loosing it.
@kasiam2508
3 жыл бұрын
was thinking exactly the same...were these his last words??? Gosh...
@kingoftheorient
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I would have said something like, "see you on the other side mate"
@justinjones7631
3 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt those were his last words. In most instances like this, the families of the deceased will request that some of the Black Box recordings are kept private. These pilots were experienced and they knew the plane was going to crash. I'm sure they said a word to loved ones before finally going down.
@Kalbach19
3 жыл бұрын
@@justinjones7631 NTSB official transcript shows they were the last words. NTSB are the only folks who have heard the CVR recordings.
@superchicken5000
3 жыл бұрын
Losing. Losing has one “O”. You’re welcome.
@PierreHefner
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I keep watching these videos it just makes me fear flights even more. It’s so sad seeing that people that are supposed to be professional in these situations start acting like children. Big respect to the pilots for giving it all they got.
@BigguBosu117
4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to imagine the terror of the passengers when the plane suddenly turned upside down.
@holdencommodore2200
4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!!! I'm sure people were falling out of their seats and sh*t was flying all over the place...... they all probably knew in the back of their minds that this was it.
@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingFor
4 жыл бұрын
@@holdencommodore2200 they shouldn't fall out of their seats if they had their seatbelts on. I even wonder if they felt negative G's or just the weightlessness of free falling
@sazzlepop321
4 жыл бұрын
I’d pretty much be thinking this is it.
@NerdX151
4 жыл бұрын
The lawyer that was hired by the relatives to the victims said that you could hear the screams of the passengers on the CVR. What made this crash even worse was the violent dive that happened minutes before the actual crash. The passengers basically got a taste of what to come. Other crashes usually happen so fast that the passengers don't have time to register it. Here they experienced what it was like to be in a plane diving towards the sea, and then they got a few minutes of calm, where they had time to think about the situation and worry about something happening again. Then when something DID happen, they were upside down and crashing.
@sallylou7483
4 жыл бұрын
@@sazzlepop321 i think that with slight turbulance id be a mess in that situation. Poor souls
@mntnbiker818
6 жыл бұрын
God bless those poor souls who suffered such an extended period of pure terror.
@stevemora7845
5 жыл бұрын
God bless them!!
@Sugarsail1
5 жыл бұрын
@nightshaded God had nothing to do with it unless the aircraft designers and maintenance guys are all named "God," and it was premeditated.
@The68lespaul
5 жыл бұрын
can you imagine what the passengers were going through the entire time this was going on ??? can you imagine being one of those onboard during this flight of hell ?? upside down , at 24,000 ft. upside down an heading into the ocean at over 600 MPH nose 1st , the nightmare onboard in that cabin , the sound of those poor souls ,screaming til there was nothing but silence , your right, pure terror, is a good way to put it , honestly, I think it was a little worst than that even , my GOD , please grant all those onboard this flight peace and rest, and may you lead them all into your kingdom of true paradise in Jesus Name, A,Men. a 1000% agree with you on your comment
@dougmjones11
5 жыл бұрын
reality bless those poor People, more like, but yeah
@angeltruth7773
5 жыл бұрын
Sugarsail1 God allows things to get our attention. There were dark forces working that day in the higher realms.
@vickiweber4718
3 жыл бұрын
My heart goes out to the pilots. They did everything they could to keep the plane flying. I hope the one who said they'd "see you at the gate" ate his words.
@michaelmoore2802
2 жыл бұрын
I was shocked by that...literally abandoned these pilots, and everyone on board...rip to all souls on board....
@neilbarker5003
2 жыл бұрын
The pilots went thru heavens gate. Quite a few others will see the gate into a region much warmer than Alaska.
@johnpizza3930
2 жыл бұрын
@@neilbarker5003 what if they didn't believe in god? not everyone still believes in fairy tales
@neilbarker5003
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpizza3930 The beliefs you hold make no difference to me. Like the song goes. No one's laughing at God in a....... doomed airplane.
@dannycrockett9878
6 жыл бұрын
Can only imagine how terrifying it must have been to be anybody on that airplane, but especially a passenger. Ya know, it's actually kinda surprising that there are not a whole hell of a lot more crashes of these big jets. All things considered it's an extremely safe method of travel. My oldest sister was killed in airliner crash. This happened in 1969. The plane was an old DC-3 from Hawthorne Nevada Airlines. My sister and her husband had won a trip on the "Gamblers Special" flight while on the Newlywed Game (If you Google "Gamblers Special, story of doomed 1969 flight, you will see an entire store written by the adventure journalist who climbed to the site not long ago). The plane, carrying 33 people went from Burbank, CA to Reno, people ate, gambled, partied, and then flew back home. The plane was unbelievably flying by dead recogning, and a wind miscalculation by a tired copilot during the stop in Reno doomed everyone on the flight back to L.A, including my then 21 year old sweet sister and her 22 year old husband Pat who had just become a L.A County Deputy Sheriff after spending two years as a Marine Corp M.P in Siagon. Their flight left out of Reno at 2:30am local time and ultimately slammed into the side of Mt Whitney. It is an extremely difficult place to get to. The plane wasn't found for several weeks, and 2 people were killed in a helicopter crash during recovery efforts. 40 years later, the climber/writer who went up to the site discovered that everything is still there, luggage, plane, clothes, personal items, etc.......You will find it a fascinating story if you'd care to read about it.
@tlpeace203
5 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing.
@KrK007
5 жыл бұрын
You're in an inverted plane and you can see the ocean as you fly into it. Yes, it must have been terrible.
@bradleyturner8305
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing sorry for your loss ! This is very interesting!
@SS-kz7td
5 жыл бұрын
That was an interesting read, thanks for sharing and sorry for your loss.
@mikeb2611
5 жыл бұрын
I think I saw something about this on TV some years back
@that.bluecat
4 жыл бұрын
I've never really felt emotional watching one of these videos before. Through the whole videos I wanted to give the poor captain a hug, honestly
@MrSoccerball100
4 жыл бұрын
The worst I ever felt for a pilot after watching and listening to these videos is the pilot for USAir flight 427. I know all these pilots are supremely good at what they do but this guy seemed especially duped by the failed jammed rudder. Right up to crash you can feel his frustration as he brainstorms and encourages his co pilot. He knows something is terribly wrong and even if he figured out what it was he didn’t have altitude or speed to do anything. The guy always stood out to me. Peter Germano from Pittsburgh. Really popular in the community. A big teddy bear for the kids. And a highly skilled pilot. Extremely bright and smart. RIP Captain
@07foxmulder
6 жыл бұрын
Another preventable accident caused by another airline deciding to cut corners. It's infuriating.
@kerenchadwick6535
6 жыл бұрын
totally agree with you 07foxmulder.....😕😕😕
@gthomas3615
6 жыл бұрын
it's criminal
@derrickallen2054
6 жыл бұрын
It's also terrifying, to know people will cut corners like this even when it involves such horrible consequences. I can't logically understand that.
@Trout636
6 жыл бұрын
Muffin Kitty Bush wasn’t even in office yet. This was in January of ‘00. A full 10 months before Election Day.
@kevin6293
6 жыл бұрын
Whatever you do, never stop supporting corporatists who want to cut regulations.
@aisling2360
5 жыл бұрын
So sad can you imagine how scared the flight crew and passengers must’ve felt in that plane, bags going everywhere, people falling who hadn’t got their seat belt on, and the pilots who knew that there was nothing they could do and they were going to die. Truly heartbreaking rip 💔
@StoutProper
5 жыл бұрын
The more I watch these the more I begin to realise how little airlines and the FAA actually care about safety compared to profits
@QueenxChico
4 жыл бұрын
EXCATLY
@Spachia
4 жыл бұрын
This event had nothing to do with cutting costs. It was a lazy mechanic signing off a GVI and using the improper the grease or not greasing at all.
@renagtz
4 жыл бұрын
It's always been about profits for them
@Spachia
4 жыл бұрын
A Frustrated Gamer have you worked on the line for a commercial airline? Because you would know that is simply not true.
@herrbonk3635
4 жыл бұрын
That's why I haven't taken a plane since 1991.
@99stangermike
3 жыл бұрын
I had the unfortunate job of working the crash. I was a member of the Pt Hueneme Base Police. I was there that night when the first victims were recovered and for the next 12 days straight. Also worked the one year anniversary of the crash. God bless the victims and their families.
@aw8079
5 жыл бұрын
The owners of the airline should have been arrested, jailed for manslaughter. Fines don't do enough.
@hillarybillary21
5 жыл бұрын
a w sociopaths don’t care about anyone. Your absolutely right.
@ringojsp.sanchex6953
5 жыл бұрын
What an idiot radio dispatcher haves no experience is a stupid person with no common sense , the life of the 88 passengers, didnt know the life or death decision was in ✋ of a traffic control dispatcher the captain and the pilots end up doing what he said instead of say fuck that I'm landing this bird fuck ur schedule its delayed so fuck off instead
@mikeneff4291
5 жыл бұрын
It comes down to the maintenance workers not doing their jobs
@mishmashmedley
5 жыл бұрын
I fail to see what the owners have to do with this situation. They pay the wages of employees to carry out maintenance. The last thing the owners want is death, then they have to pay out more money in fines, lawsuits, settlements, and suffer lost business due to bad PR.
@Incadazant01
5 жыл бұрын
The owners didn't want to shell out for the grease on the jackscrew. That, and the time required to grease that part is considerably longer than on the similarly sized 737, due to the unique "T-tail" configuration of the DC-9/MD-88 aircraft.
@dawnehelene909
6 жыл бұрын
Horrific. Pilot's Thompson and Tansky were amazing, truly amazing.
@ernstvanstangl1048
6 жыл бұрын
They definitely were. My God they never quit!
@flappy7373
6 жыл бұрын
would you?
@TheDirtflyer
6 жыл бұрын
They were men.
@eternalreign2313
5 жыл бұрын
@CrystalCritter Yes. If they were women they would have just sat there screaming like all the other passengers the first time they encountered a problem. They never would have remained calm and worked through their training. They never would have thought to invert the plane to buy themselves more time. And if by some stroke of luck the plane inverted itself, they most likely would have listened to the planes warning system and "pulled up" when they were inverted. Have you ever been around women in an emergency? They're completely useless. Nothing but frantic panic and screaming. OMG what's with women and screaming?
@eternalreign2313
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater Well technically they did make it worse when they initially decided to pitch the plane down to attempt to fix the problem. But maybe the screw would have eventually failed completely anyway, we'll never know. I don't think they were heroes though, their lives were in just as much danger as everyone elses from the beginning and they had no other options than to try and fix the problem.
@vincesbardella3838
4 жыл бұрын
I had about 5,000 hours in the same type. I had retired about 7 years before this incident, but remember being thankful that the vice president of maintenance at my airline, a former pilot, had always run a very efficient, "Tight ship".
@Zzeke
3 жыл бұрын
Vince, how come the controls are so heavy? You’d think they’d be power assisted like a car so a pilot would not have to fight it physically..... ?
@rhenry7369
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zzeke Take another look near the 14 minute 12 second part of the video. The answer to your question is in the NTSB findings for why the controls were so heavy for these pilots that day. Normally they wouldn't be heavy but when you have catastrophic failure of critical components it becomes a recipe for disaster.
@brucemonterosso2493
4 жыл бұрын
Riveting reenactment. Knew someone on this flight, and trying to imagine the sheer terror being experienced by her, and all aboard, is not something I could ever quantify. My prayers continue to this day for all lost. 💜
@ldlink3935
5 жыл бұрын
These pilots were in a game of chess with the broken airplane.....They did not give up! It ended in a stalemate with a valiant effort for the win, god bless these two for fighting to the end!!!!
@JonnoPlays
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone on the ground just acts like they're going to land it and they'll fix it later. Wow...
@esvalve
3 жыл бұрын
Verified youtuber
@wtfexza
3 жыл бұрын
@@esvalve yes
@BlakeGibbons
3 жыл бұрын
@@esvalve verified idiot.
@twizz420
3 жыл бұрын
How tf are they supposed to know how bad it is? They're not flying the plane... And either way, what else are they supposed to do?
@wtfexza
3 жыл бұрын
@@twizz420 dance
@ouchsp
6 жыл бұрын
What a nightmare! Those pilots fought so hard!! What a tragedy!!
@LunaBellaAngelina
6 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit sarcastic...
@TheDirtflyer
6 жыл бұрын
Now days , you got to be Politically correct, feel safe with little girls at the controls in Cockpits?
@Jacob-df5hr
3 жыл бұрын
Props to the captain and first officer who did absolutely everything they could for a plane that was doomed before it even took off. There was no way for them to know that the stabilizer being jammed was preferable to it being free.
@Praise___YaH
2 жыл бұрын
HERE is Our TRUE Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins, NOT jesus, and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@demelof1913
6 жыл бұрын
This had to be so horribly terrifying. The pilots were heroes trying so hard to save everyone's lives. Rest in peace.
@nhhdjdhdj6496
4 жыл бұрын
I hope that when my time comes to die I am able to show even one tenth of the courage and grace that these pilots did...sadly, though, I suspect I will not.
@thewhitehotel8348
3 жыл бұрын
don't be a coward
@MegaWetbrain
3 жыл бұрын
You may. You may not. Whatever that moment is in your lifes last moment. You just be as strong as you can. Whatever that is. And accept it for whatever it is. Well... I mean suppose you won't have that much of a choice in that 'final moment' will you? People can only ever be so prepared I presume. People have found strengths in them. They didn't ever believe possible. So do not ever under estimate the hidden Power. All humans possess. God bless
@kaydens6964
2 жыл бұрын
I dont think Im gonna scream, Ive never screamed in my life despite being in a few life or death situations. I'd imagine a low pitch omg and close my eyes at that moment.
@moaningpheromones
2 жыл бұрын
@@thewhitehotel8348 thanks dr phil really helpful
@aylbdrmadison1051
5 жыл бұрын
And were those responsible for this ever prosecuted? Not the mechanics, but those who made the decisions, those who decided cutting costs was more important than the safety of their customers, the very lives of the customers. Those who are in charge of companies, those who constantly pressure their workers to do things faster. They are the problem, and should be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter.
@anttitheinternetguy3213
5 жыл бұрын
Nowadays this trend is getting out of hands. Cheap Airlines are forcing all airlines driving the Costs down and cutting corners. Monopoly isnt good either, but as Airlines are force To kick maintanence crews out and fly planes with overheating engines, its seriously no good
@anttitheinternetguy3213
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater Well my father flew air force cargo planes through 80's and then jumped into civil aviation in early 90's. He flew inter-european flights as a captain in Finnair. He didnt talk much about these things but he did complain a couple of times in late 2000's how their ground crew was mostly bulgarian. At the time there was a large complaint for Finnair kicking ground crews out. Instead they hired bulgarian ground crews To work on their planes. And those guys even installed the nav Light incorrectly To his plane. Also the overheating engine is a True story, he was put into an Airbus with other engine warming over 100C° warmer than it ought To. He saw Finnair on its prime in the 90's and early 2000's and when the cheaper budget airliners started operating the whole thing went to shit. So yeah, I can be wrong but this is what i've heard
@joseph2095
5 жыл бұрын
That may be so, but the mechanic who signs off his work is ultimately responsible for his work (or lack thereof!)
@The68lespaul
5 жыл бұрын
no those muthafuckers should be fucking thrown in jail for 10 years, then made to pay every family that lost someone in the crash a million dollars each, then anybody wanting to go kick there asses 5 times a week while there serving there time for hustling the mechanics the people that lost family members can go to the prison where there being held and get to beat the hell out of,em for an hour, and pick up there cash on the way out, then after there 10 year tenor, fire the bastards , and tell the fucking F.A.A. to listen the fuck up news bulletin news flash, if you airline owners every push your people to rush ,hurry, or otherwise take there time so nothing is over looked that they will automatically be fucking closed down and fined big time , then taken to court to see if there are indeed guilty of employee hustling , they will be shut down indefinitely never to return to running an airline ever again, fuck those big hunks of flying shit, they may be the lowest being killed rate by way of all types of transportation, but when these fucking things go down hundreds of people die in one crash, and that is just fucking unacceptable by any standard, as long as engineers have been designing aircraft they still don't have a fucking way to save the people on board if the thing fucks up ??? what the fuck are they doing , fucking jerking off all fucking day long, I guess since more people die in auto accidents its okay, the fuck too, you muthafuckers down at the F.A.A. need a size 14 shoved up your fucking ass , if it were up to me these fucking things meaning airline jets would all be grounded and a new design to put huge parachutes on the bodies of the main fuselage, everything would drop away from the airplane leaving the passenger part to be captured by the huge parachutes and it lands safely on the ground with no more people having to die in these hunks of shit, there fucking big chunks of junk, as long as we don't take measures to employ safety mechcanisums in place, people will continue to die by the hundreds , man made flying hunks of junk , even the 747,s fuck those too flight 800 4 or 500 people died that night on that fucking thing , and as much money as the GOV. spends on space exploration in fact heres one for ya, nasa just let a 90 billion dollar explorer go straight to hell an lost it was burnt out and trashed , over 90 billion dollars, now do you think for a second 90 billion dollars applied to re designing airliners so when they fuck up and the pilots cant do dick about it, we might be able to come up with a way to save the people on the muthafuckers with that 90 billion ??? fuck all these things there nothing but flying hunks of shit, waiting to fuck up, because ofbeing rushed, well, I think my idea,s are pretty effective but I need your backing everyone , support me in my cause to save lives on these things , make your donations payable to me, on my paypal make a note or place a message to supporting saving lives on jet liners inc. to W.H.W. help me help everyone live a little longer , in these damn flying pieces of junk , im tired of seeing so many people die at there hands and the owners walk away without a damn thing happening to ,em there free as a bird to not give a damn or even care, which they don't
@The68lespaul
5 жыл бұрын
great idea, I agree a fucking smooth 100% , bastards, an those poor pilots tried so hard to keep that fucked up thing in the air as long as they possibly could, I wish they had made it back to the airport an landed that hunk of shit, an went an beat the fuck out of the owners, then quit, fucking assholes , but good idea , I like that, but since there greedy bastardss that don't care about nothing but money for the 88 people , lets give these bastards a nice even 100 years for good measure , fuckin dick heads
@Synystr7
3 жыл бұрын
"Try it if you want, I don't care. We'll see you at the gate" Jeez. Thanks bro
@StevePringle
3 жыл бұрын
Pearly gate?
@josiejones8029
4 жыл бұрын
I live on Oxnard, CA on the coast next to Port Hueneme. The only body in tack was an infant baby. They nose dived 10,000 feet straight into the ocean. The plain flew out of Puerta Vallata. MX en route to L.A. then Seattle. The memorial is a beautiful Sun Dial with the dial set at the time of crash. Around the sun dial is a plaque with every soul on board with the date of birth and where they were from. Lots of persons were from Washington. It is a very sad sight to see. The families had a memorial at the sun dial and boarded a boat to throw reefs of flowers where the plane crashed. Entire families were killed. So sad for a mistake that could have been prevented. My husband flew Alaska airlines a lot and this accident really hit home. RIP😪🙏
@minakoa7178
6 жыл бұрын
I lived in Point Mugu at the time, a few miles from the crash site. One of my friends saw the plane crash with his own eyes. He still can’t comprehend what he saw.
@oceanhome2023
5 жыл бұрын
Happened right in front of my beach house and I still can’t look out without thinking about . Crazy thing my girlfriend had just got a New camera and she was taking still pictures on the beach she got a pic of it doing its final plunge.....upside down . All pics and negatives were given to the FAA
@TA-Mike7
5 жыл бұрын
@@oceanhome2023 You didn't make copies?
@SeeBrake
2 жыл бұрын
I went to school and played water polo with Ted's nephew Terry. He's a hero and so is his first officer. They did everything they could to keep the passengers and crew alive. It just was too much of a malfunction for them to overcome despite their heroic efforts. RIP.
@mollythousand1598
4 жыл бұрын
This is heartwrenching. Those pilots are angels for giving everything they had.
@robertzeurunkl8401
6 жыл бұрын
Those poor passengers. They had a LONG time to suffer with the fear of their condition. How terrible for them.
@willg4802
6 жыл бұрын
Robert Zeurunkl many prayers were never answered
@John6-40
6 жыл бұрын
Will G - This life means little compared to what comes after. God knows this. Not all prayers are answered because God sees a bigger picture than we could ever imagine.
@Pedroism
6 жыл бұрын
Deric Gregory nothing
@willg4802
6 жыл бұрын
Deric Gregory how would you know?
@John6-40
6 жыл бұрын
Will G - I know what's in my heart. Faith = belief without proof.
@mobucks555
3 жыл бұрын
out of all the videos, this is the hardest one to watch.
@rhymereason3449
5 жыл бұрын
We had a neighbor who was on this flight... a young girl just out of college. It was very sad... the terror of steep dives, pitches and rolls, and then flying upside down for an extended period of time must have been an awful way to go...
@peterday3253
4 жыл бұрын
Those pilots tried to the very end under extreme duress. That is the definition of courage. Instinctual act by the captain to go with the plane's nose down attitude and try to fly it inverted. "Push and roll". Very impressive...
@matthewtamony5690
3 жыл бұрын
The pilots knew that they were done. Respect for going out to the ocean. RIP all lost souls.
@haydencook682
4 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time when people say flying is safer than driving...I guess factually, it is, but when my engine starts to break down I can pull over rather than fall from miles high in the sky.
@domiy13
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah statistically, based on number of accidents in the air and on the road, driving is a lot more dangerous than flying. But the difference is that when you fly, you put your life in the hands of someone else. No matter how dangerous driving is, there are always things you can do yourself to minimize the risk since you're the one in control.
@larryjohnny
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, screw the flying cars idea too!! Hyper loop baby!
@chrishollins1789
4 жыл бұрын
Hayden Cook ummm, nothing is safe. Driving a car is dangerous too. Like you mentioned, you just never know after your car break down and all sudden you get out of car to check your engine and you get hit, also it can be drunk drivers ran into you, maybe a semi truck switch lanes and you move your car accidentally into the guardrails and etc. Anything can happen. The best you can do is pray everyday to God. Always say I love you to family and friends because you never know what comes tomorrow.
@klo4880
4 жыл бұрын
Gerry Wolf what? Aren’t the chances of dying in a plane crash 1 in 200 million?
@CherryFrog321
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, statistically, flying is safer. But I think dying in a plane crash would usually be a lot more horrifying than dying in a car accident. At least in a car accident, you wouldn't be falling thousands of feet to your death while inverted. Cars also don't usually explode into a huge fireball when they crash.
@rivaridge7211
6 жыл бұрын
In addition to their incredible bravery and intelligence under the most extreme circumstances, the pilots also protected people on the ground via their request to keep the plane over the ocean (for as long as possible) as they headed to LAX. All air crashes are awful, but this one especially so given what was later learned.
@scotta8597
5 жыл бұрын
LAX or someone told them to keep going and they went into the ocean north of Los Angeles at Port Hueneme Ca.I live close to there and will always remember that day.
@BUSTRCHERRI
5 жыл бұрын
"Ah...here we go". The moment he knew it was over. 😥😪😞
@ibrahimabdi5602
4 жыл бұрын
white zebra Yh u wouldn’t say that if that was your dad hey
@daybyday0731
4 жыл бұрын
😫😥😥i felt that😭😭
@daybyday0731
4 жыл бұрын
@white zebra obviously you since you not only clicked on the video, watched it and commented..
@klo4880
4 жыл бұрын
white zebra what’s wrong with you
@KingDevilCharger
4 жыл бұрын
@white zebra Someone is starving for attention. Let me guess, your mommy didn't hold you and you don't know your daddy. Go cry somewhere else assclown, no one gives a shit.
@revelationakagoldeneagle8045
3 жыл бұрын
Such a tragedy, a preventable one... Continued thoughts and prayers for the family and friends of all who lost their life that day...
@callbackdons
4 жыл бұрын
Once they mentioned "get to 10 and change configuration" out over the bay, I knew that was the tipping point. There's a solid pattern where, once an aircraft has compromised or failed control authority--yet the pilots have managed to regain control and keep level flight with abnormal conditions--changing the configuration again in order to land results in new conditions that reduce the situation to entirely uncontrollable. Once that acme nut failed, that was it. RIP
@callbackdons
4 жыл бұрын
@Cheryl Lynne after they were upside down?
@MrSoccerball100
4 жыл бұрын
@Cheryl Lynne no. Once that nut gave there was absolutely no way to control the plane. It was doomed the moment it took off.
@jcmartin868
3 жыл бұрын
The nut came loose from continued manipulation. The pilots should have stopped with the pitch adjustments and just made a navy landing at the nearest airstrip.
@jefflingle8795
2 жыл бұрын
I think pilots new it was impossible to land. Buried it into water! Would have killed a lot of people on the ground.
@186bingo
6 жыл бұрын
This is one crash that makes me really angry. Needless loss of life as a direct result to corporate greed and criminal negligence. And the government failed to act sufficiently after the whistleblower engineer came forward with this info. Nearly 90 people lost the majority of them would still be with us today. Unreal.
@roadboat9216
6 жыл бұрын
186bingo Corporate greed is destroying our country. Employees to CEO ratio use to be 20-30 to one. Now it’s 300-500 to one. The middle class is disappearing and we are turning into a third world country. No joke.
@186bingo
6 жыл бұрын
Fred Read I know it’s no joke buddy. Look at history; one of the early signs of the fall of great nations/empires is the vanishing of middle class and growing wedge between wealthy and poor people. We are turning into a banana republic.
@sjames304
6 жыл бұрын
Wesley72B99 Too bad you weren't on that flight.
@vargohoat9950
6 жыл бұрын
its pretty typical, sadly
@720069mf
6 жыл бұрын
This crash was @ 10 miles offshore from where i live- heard 3 distant booms then the windows shook as in a small earthquake. Months later i was talking to a guy who arrived on scene a couple hours later and he said the only body parts found were torsos and feet. The only full body was an infant in a child seat. Horrible way to die -83 seconds of sheer terror. Their is a beautiful memorial located in Pt. Hueneme near the pier.
@bradleysmall2230
6 жыл бұрын
I lived at Hollywood beach and saw the recovery boats as I recovered from hernia surgery. I am aware of a memorial but not seen it. It supposedly is some king of sundial that lines up in position on the day of the crash every year.
@TwiZoneInc
5 жыл бұрын
GOOD GOD. Blunt force trauma...and to think, this *almost* happened in the Hudson River a few years later. That is beyond sad. All because someone did a sloppy job on the maintenance. Here is the thing though...there should have been a better control in place. It's weird that the whole plane could just malfunction because of that one little part. I think the model of the plane was mostly to blame, it was just not a good one.
@fischermann5279
5 жыл бұрын
Hudson River? Are you thinking of the miracle landing on the Hudson? if so, that was caused by mass engine ingestion of birds that killed those engines. Not human error. @@TwiZoneInc
@TwiZoneInc
5 жыл бұрын
Brett Dull I never said it was because of human error or neglect
@tcb268
5 жыл бұрын
I believe this crash was partly the inspiration for the crash in the movie 'Flight'. They even borrowed some of the dialogue. RIP those aboard flight 261.
@ilovesteveclark6084
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater That's because you are a toadstool.
@rebecca_r
6 жыл бұрын
It's mind blowing to learn that an entire aircraft can crash because of the lack of lubricant on one small bolt & nut. Horrifying to think about really.
@michaeldonner5334
5 жыл бұрын
Single point failure, and not fail-safe. Recipe for disaster.
@matthewvaughan8192
5 жыл бұрын
@Clemmy Magee How could they possibly know the stabilizer was jammed?
@matthewvaughan8192
5 жыл бұрын
@Clemmy Magee Erm, okay...
@georgecohen2925
5 жыл бұрын
That maintenance guy should be charged with negligent homicide. He knew he was cutting corners and did it anyway. There is always a push by management to do things faster and cheaper. And this is what it leads to. Unless we make it a crime to cut these corners, they will continue to do it. It is up the the worker to say no and either let them do it properly, or quit. This horror makes me remember what the Nazi soldiers did at the Nuremberg trials. They said "we were just following orders". And now, think about the Republican goal of getting rid of "regulations". How many deaths will follow? Think about Romain lettuce. Monumentally stupid.
@TooFewSecrets
5 жыл бұрын
@@georgecohen2925 The inspector told management about the destroyed bolt, the bean-counters sent out more inspectors until one of them came back and said it was fine, then they sent the plane out. The maintenance guy deserves blame, sure, but so does the management for giving no shits about safety in the face of profits.
@alexlemelin3217
3 жыл бұрын
"ah, here we go" he really looked death in the eyes
@celestia8033
3 жыл бұрын
@Rabbi Noah Kitty bruh.....
@MJKarkoska
6 жыл бұрын
When I was in the USAF we were constantly drilled on paying attention to the smallest details, and how you could be responsible for killing people just by forgetting a single nut or bolt. We were also told true stories of times when accidents happened from such failures. I too was impressed with the pilots' ability to keep the aircraft in flight as long as they did. It couldn't have been easy given the forces acting against those control surfaces.
@justinwallace390
5 жыл бұрын
I was USAF maintenance on 3 different heavy airframes over 14 years. The smallest of detail can put the crew at risk. I seen a few shady mechanics in that 14 years.
@marinemom351
3 жыл бұрын
I remember this well as my friend and her family were also departing that airport and watched these folks boarding their plane. So heartbreaking.
@mr.butterworth
6 жыл бұрын
A very similar circumstance to what Denzel Washington’s character faced in the movie ‘Flight’. Failed jackscrew, steep dive, invert to save the plane, even a bit of the dialogue is the same. This incident was certainly the basis for the fictional crash.
@irn2flying
5 жыл бұрын
I would agree. I thought that as well when I saw "Flight". That said, from a pilot's perspective there are a lot of things that wouldn't/couldn't have happened during his emergency sequence. Such as pulling the fire handle and having the engines still produce power. Once that fire handle is pulled all electrics, pneumatics, hydraulics, and fuel are partitioned from the engine. Thus, the engine stops running, right now. But, it's Hollywood. The one thing that did makes sense and follows Alaska 261 is inverting the airplane with this scenerio. A gutsy last ditch effort that makes sense aerodynamically. "push and roll, push and roll" to get her inverted... Once inverted, the forces are reversed, and you are in a "nose up" position producing lift. (although inefficiently). If memory serves, this maneuver in the real life Alaska crash reduced his descent rate from about 10,000 feet per minute to about 1,500. He almost stopped the descent, but ran out of altitude and options. God bless them all.
@markkinsler4333
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater Um, just who are you angry at, and why? The details you've listed aren't in the video, and most of us don't read NTSB directives. If you have something to add to a discussion you can just as well do it with courtesy.
@markkinsler4333
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater That's a reasonable policy if you are judging the quality of a college research project, for students often take short-cuts, cite inappropriate sources, and thus arrive at erroneous conclusions. But while a KZitem comment section is often an excellent resource for learning new things, I doubt that most of its contributors consider it to be much more than a source of entertainment rather than a reliable source. I know that I am perfectly prepared to tolerate just about anything I read here because sometimes it's funny and sometimes I can do some good by helping correct a misconception. If you desire a more rigorous forum I'd suggest that you contribute some editing to the Wikipedia article on this incident or discuss it with one of the many air-safety websites. And while it's entirely appropriate to correct any errors you find in a comment section, it's also appropriate to treat your fellow contributors with the same respect that you'd show to neighbors and friends who might know less than you do on a particular subject.
@jamesbadham228
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder what your approved ways of making money include.
@olddragguy
5 жыл бұрын
Mr. B well now you know where the idea for the movie came from?
@keannawilliams1640
4 жыл бұрын
So sad because that plane was full of beautiful, smart and incredible ppl! Pastors, entrepreneurs, business owners, college graduates, retired engineers, retired pilots, retired military, special education teachers, some had organizations that helped the homeless and children,husband and wifes, children, fathers, mothers etc.....this is soooo horrific!!!! My heart goes out to them and their families.may the forever rest in peace!
@AzDesertFoxx
4 жыл бұрын
Half of the passengers were Alaska Airlines workers, and/or there friends and families. Alaska Airlines lost many of their own that day too. Such a shame.
@cameron2275
6 жыл бұрын
One of the saddest U.S airline crashes to date knowing that the pilots did everything they could to keep the plane safe. Aircraft workers need to know what they are doing!
@MegaSunspark
6 жыл бұрын
Although it is sad that all onboard died including the pilots, it was also the pilots' fault that the airliner crashed. If a major flight control surface is stuck, you don't bang the motors that move it, back and forth in flight until you break the control mechanism of the horizontal stabilizer. It's like speeding down the highway and you find that your steering wheel is stuck. Instead of slowing down the car and easing off to the side of the highway and stopping, you forcibly turn the steering wheel in an attempt to free it while still speeding along. That would be a moronic thing to do. These pilots when they realized that their H Stab is stuck, instead of a quick and gingerly attempt to see what's going on by trying to move it and then leaving it alone and trying to land the plane ASAP, they rammed the motors back and forth and back and forth repeatedly over many minutes until they actually broke the very heavy and strong, although very poorly maintained H Stab mechanism. You just don't do that in flight. You do with whatever angle the H Stab is stuck at and attempt to land the aircraft immediately at the nearest suitable airport, in this case it would have been Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, where they took off from. Instead they continued to fly north while "troubleshooting", trying to make it San Francisco (one of their maintenance bases) because they didn't want to delay the flight by going back to the airport they came from. These pilots really screwed up and everybody onboard paid for it with their lives. Alaska Airlines was just as guilty, probably more, because they failed to maintain the aircraft properly in order to save money.
@criketduke8401
6 жыл бұрын
+MegaSunspark did you watch and read about this disaster🤔
@MegaSunspark
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did...saw many documentaries and read a lot about it in detail.
@cheryl8280
6 жыл бұрын
camav04 You aren't including the three passenger planes that went down during 9-11? That was pretty g-d sad!
@davidbrowne6371
6 жыл бұрын
Idk why or where I was in January 2000 here on east coast but, I don’t remember hearing of this crash .. I know after 9/11, I stopped flying for 13 or 14 years afterwards .. I didn’t even know Alaska Airlines was still in business .. until I got a coast to coast non stop flight out of Philly to San Fran a couple yrs ago .. for
@jenperrott766
3 жыл бұрын
Our dear friend was killed on this flight. I only came across this just now by accident. My heart is still racing. There were babies on that flight. I can only imagine she was holding one or more of them for the family sitting close to her. We miss her dearly.
@mmichaeldonavon
6 жыл бұрын
In the USAF, "back in the day," maintenance was pushed hard to have the planes mission ready. Personally, I have been called on to "short cut" a maintenance procedure, in order to meet the mission - didn't. Created problems for me. At that time, all of the C-141A&B's were in competition for "on time takeoffs." That was the reason for the push.Have seen it up close and personal.
@vargohoat9950
6 жыл бұрын
cutting corners in aviation is something that just should not be done, ever. reminds me of the whole counterfeit aircraft parts thing, built poorly and maintenance buys them because theyre cheap, voila, they fail critically and its another 100 million dollar pancake
@raymondfallon7429
6 жыл бұрын
we heard rumors, back in the day, that our C135s had issues with metal fatigue, but the show had to go on. I did (from the back end) witness 3 engines go out (although only two at a time), plus loss of hydraulics. Quite a crap show. Loved the job, though. And you MX types were the balls. Lot of work in very little time.
@simonperry8569
3 жыл бұрын
Maintenance: "See you at the gate." Pilot: "To Heaven?"
@jaspartheghost526
5 жыл бұрын
That eerie voice on so many of these videos...Pull Up! Pull Up!
@ilovesteveclark6084
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater duhhhh thanks for that obvious info "Mr. Authority." Yeah, I'm betting 100% that ALL PILOTS KNOW THAT.
@clintmccool1354
5 жыл бұрын
The voice is computer generated. I hear every day flying a G650 during setup /test, honesty it’s weird every time I here it..
@christianhorne2879
4 жыл бұрын
I was on a charter flight to dutch harbor and the pilots were making a extreme low visibility landing and thays all we heard before the landing was "pull up" ...sketchy stuff. This was a small aircraft with about 12 of us on board
@2flubadub
6 жыл бұрын
I knew both pilots very well, as well as most of the flight crew. I can't watch. It breaks my heart
@slimedits
5 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace
@grahamjonathan762
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss mate, sincerest condolences
@johnoden137
5 жыл бұрын
The pilots were excellent. I am so sorry for all the unnecessary loss of life.
@nofurtherwest3474
5 жыл бұрын
@Chimera XDX that was so mean i lol'd
@fonniefarkles7770
5 жыл бұрын
Bulk shit
@mynewyork165
2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that the pilots were given that award. It sounds like they did whatever they could to save the plane & all those on board.
@kurtiserikson7334
5 жыл бұрын
I knew one of the people on this flight. He was an SF fire fighter. I did not know the details of the crash. It must have been very scary for all on board. Amazing the pilots were able to control it for so long. Sad that it ended the way it did.
@ruthie2295
6 жыл бұрын
This horrible accident just makes me angry!
@mugnumps7910
5 жыл бұрын
Remember that aircraft workers pay union dues to demokraps campaign funds. Phuck liberals.
@mugnumps7910
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater , wrong... Demokraps don't pay attention to law. Killery is the perfect example.
@jonathand3842
5 жыл бұрын
@@mugnumps7910 why you bring politic into a crash accident?
@skipperbob5164
5 жыл бұрын
Don’t be angry it will get you know where .....
@vvendetta3436
3 жыл бұрын
My late father was an aviation pioneer - became the youngest licensed pilot in the country training on the Curtis “Jenny,” after his barnstorming days, he flew the mail, OX-5 charter member, and was a commercial pilot thereafter, flying for the regionals, then DC-3/C-47 for MATS during WW II, DC-4, DC-7, then Vickers Viscount turboprop for UAL until his retirement. His oft-repeated statement was, “If you knew how the airlines maintained aircraft, you’d never set foot in one.”
@TexanInItaly
6 жыл бұрын
Yes Captain, you’re flying. RIP
@unfluster
3 жыл бұрын
The hell those passengers must have gone through!
@dan003
4 жыл бұрын
Incredible respect to those in the cockpit. Cannot even begin the imagine the horror of the passengers when they knew they were all going to die yet could only wait for the inevitable... all while either belted in and upside down looking down at their fate into the ocean, or strewn across the plane wondering how they ended up in that situation. Rest in peace to all on board.
@jayreiter268
6 жыл бұрын
You seem to have missed the lead mechanic at SFO that had reported months before the accident that supervisors were signing off work that was not done. The airline I worked for had 3 ex Alaska MD80's. All 3 had metal in the grease. Two were within limits one was removed and sent to the NTSB. Something was going on at Alaska for some time. Besides the crew, passengers and relatives I feel for the person talking to the flight. I was told he had to be helped by two persons holding him up.
@michaelvitiello9960
3 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about this crash when it happened. I remembered thinking what the passengers were going through the way the plane was inverted and then in a several different nose dives. It had to be complete horror for them. It's one thing to be in a plane crash but it's another to be in one that is involved with extremely dramatic maneuvers before it crashes. Again, it had to be complete horror!!!
@vanessaruiz4705
3 ай бұрын
probably a lot of pain as well. While descending normally, many people get ear and head pain. Imagine with a huge plunge like that. Apart from the panic, I am afraid it had to be very painful as well :((
@deew7014
5 жыл бұрын
Just damn heartbreaking and infuriating . I lived in Ventura county at the time of this disaster , I could stand in my backyard and watch the recovery helicopters going back and forth for days . So damn sad
@hollywoodsaint57
4 жыл бұрын
I remember this. My ex wife dad lives in thise condominiums next to the beach there in port hueneme where airplane parts would wash up. I found a few myself. Those poor people 😔
@reddog-ex4dx
5 жыл бұрын
I have vivid memories of this tragedy and how angry I was. When it was found that the wrong grease had been used the three mechanics involved came under intense scrutiny. The two mechanics who did the job pointed fingers at the chief mechanic claiming that he had told them to use the wrong grease. It also came out that the jack screw involved should have been replaced earlier. The chief mechanic blamed Alaska Airlines management for cutting back on funds for doing routine maintenance and threatening to terminate him if he did not go along. But, because he had signed off on he job he toke the hit as well he should. He should not have signed off on the job and demanded that the parts be replaced at the proper time and the right grease be used even if it cost him his job. As I recall he went to jail for this. Alaska Airlines Greedy Management should have also gone to jail for using the wrong grease and not replacing timed out parts. The weak FAA should also be held accountable for lack of supervision of an airline in financial trouble because when an airline can't pay it's bills maintenance is the first to go.
@TeaParty1776
5 жыл бұрын
> The weak FAA should also be held accountable for lack of supervision of an airline in financial trouble Great big strong govt! That solves all problems, as Marxism and Nazism show.
@joedingo1185
5 жыл бұрын
I've been a mechanic for Alaska Airlines for about 30 years. I was around when this happened. Who went to jail? Wrong grease? Read the report. Everything was done correctly and the grease was approved by the FAA. Just read.
@reddog-ex4dx
5 жыл бұрын
@@joedingo1185 The grease may have been approved by the FAA but was not approved by Douglas.
@johnleidle9910
5 жыл бұрын
I have to believe the fault lies with the Maintenance people at the top.
@delaney6413
5 жыл бұрын
@Goose Tater You likely have no friends. No one wants to be friends with people that have the shittiest personalities.
@curlyanneb1973
6 жыл бұрын
Those poor people. When the plane flipped they must have been so afraid.
@michaelscott-joynt3215
3 жыл бұрын
At the end I half expected it to say that Alaska Airlines took back the mostly recovered plane to patch it up and fly it out again.
@elwoodbirgden342
3 жыл бұрын
XD
@duchessvonbroheim9782
5 жыл бұрын
I thought this was going to be a happy ending. I thought they were going to save it. I feel sick now. I didn't realise these were the last moments before a disaster. So much for 'We'll see you at the gate'.
@RobCLynch
4 жыл бұрын
I used to love flying on the MD80s, as they always offered such a smooth flight. But I shudder to think that the entire elevator control is dependant upon one 'jack-screw'? And as usual, maintenance cutting corners adds the icing to the cake.
@nans969
3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the terror the crew and passengers must of went through.
@wookiedog
4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that is one of the saddest ones ive seen heartbreaking
@user-lx6bl2wd8g
5 жыл бұрын
So very sad. Felt quite emotional after watching.
@ziggymorris8760
5 жыл бұрын
Can’t imagine the horror the passengers went through.
@andresquinonezramirez9373
3 жыл бұрын
This the flight that made that movie with Denzel Washington “FLIGHT”
@christurvey9161
3 жыл бұрын
That movie ends a bit different though
@dianacreber9570
4 жыл бұрын
My husband and I lost our dearest friends on that flight. A beautiful couple who had spent 3 lovely weeks with us. One of the most tragic losses in our life. And Alaska could have easily sent another plane to take the passengers home safely. We heard later that many on board were Alaska employees with families on vacation. RIP Joyce and Ron!
@Wolf_K
5 жыл бұрын
When profit and laziness rules then people will inevitably die. This speaks volumes about the state of mind which the vast majority of people today hold.
@jacknewman9256
3 жыл бұрын
I was on an AK airlines flight a month after the crash. A jackass sitting across from me joked he hoped the plane wouldn't go down. A flight attendant started crying and he was looking around like "what's wrong with her?". I'll never forget it.
@MZTHICK76
6 жыл бұрын
The pilots did everything they could
@dq1275
6 жыл бұрын
A coworker from another department was on that flight. Walking by his office which remained untouched for weeks was eerie. The pilots had pretty much written themselves off and were just trying to save lives. Air Gallantry at its finest.
@sink61
6 жыл бұрын
As I recall while I was at TWA at the time of this horrible accident we had one former Alaska MD80 on the line and during the resulting jack screw inspection of that aircraft it showed little or no lubricant.........we got lucky.
@Paleoman
6 жыл бұрын
my uncle worked at TWA at that time in LA. I think he worked at the check in counter or issuing boarding passes....
If I remember correctly from Air Crash investigations after the cause of this crash was determined an inspection of similar planes found many with improper lubrication and wear around the globe.
@njones8791
3 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing pilot right there. The type is trust.
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