Instead calling the Nation of Justice, Fontaine should be called the Nation of Tears
@lamatakbertemu8197
10 ай бұрын
The Nation of Masquerade is more appropriate.
@McDonaldSeele.
10 ай бұрын
@@lamatakbertemu8197 hmmm yeah
@shanedoesyoutube8001
10 ай бұрын
I guess the opera epiclese should host *countless Honkai theatrics (plus some of the teyvatian tragedies)*
@VeryOldFossil
10 ай бұрын
nation of justice and all waters, and all waters will be contain tears
@shanedoesyoutube8001
10 ай бұрын
@@VeryOldFossil oceanids left Fontaine bcuz of the water becoming bitter 500 years ago??? Bullshit, it became normal seawater. Salty af
@letmesleep1098
10 ай бұрын
We finally have a region where the archon herself saved everyone, we truly were spectators the whole fontaine arc, we really didn't do very much stuff ourselves personally
@elizabethsolorio9837
10 ай бұрын
You’re right!! That’s my queen!!
@abbymelcoffee1813
10 ай бұрын
True
@J-D-S
10 ай бұрын
More like a burden even, bcs we might've ended up dooming all of Fontaine if Furina really did open up to us in that magic box. If she did tell us that she was never an archon from the very beginning back then and it opened up to the whole crowd of audiences at that moment, everything Furina had done for the past 500 years would've been for nothing...
@Mario123007
10 ай бұрын
Not only that, this also means the hydron archon is also the first archon to canonically die in the main story.
@nameless_aki
10 ай бұрын
@@J-D-S She really did complete her task with that one. She was brave and saved Fontaine
@llNightRoudll
10 ай бұрын
Man, Furina was so broken in that moment that even with the waters rising and everyone "dying" around her she didn't even stand up from that chair, what the traveler and the rest did to her to get the truth was just too much
@rianv6266
10 ай бұрын
I think the prophecy will still played out in a different way if the traveler didn't do it. Celestia writes the outcome but the means to reach it is random well that's my theory
@KatsuImagitian
10 ай бұрын
I was so sad we or Neuvilette didn't at least apologize at the end to Furina after learning the truth of her turmoil. Hearing she just packed and bounced left a bad taste in my mouth.
@seungjoon_3310
10 ай бұрын
@@KatsuImagitianmaybe you should try playing her story quest
@KatsuImagitian
10 ай бұрын
@@seungjoon_3310 Already in the middle of it.👍
@tempoaccla4041
10 ай бұрын
after 500 years of incredible suffering her secret got out and she "failed" her mission I'm surprised she didn't lose her mind forever after that
@arjay4054
10 ай бұрын
I loved how heavily the rains pour down during the execution of the sinner, just show how sad Neuvillette is during that moment
@vrcsu1228
10 ай бұрын
진짜 이 장면은 어느 나라의 음성이던 표현을 잘 했다고 생각함 .. 많은 감정들이 담겨있으며 여운이 남을정도로 정말 충격적인 순간이라 이걸 어느 방식이던 그만큼 결과는 느비예트의 슬픔과 포칼리스의 해방이라는거...
as CN,it sounds the same, fear indeed, but leaves a smile
@川山鳥
10 ай бұрын
Many English comments praise EN, and many Japanese comments praise JP. In other words, HoYoverse has perfect localization. according to the tastes of each country.
@mabilleaudrey2154
10 ай бұрын
Maybe but we can't deny JP voice acting there sound childish compared to others.
@mabilleaudrey2154
10 ай бұрын
@@bluespring3077 more mature in JP? We don’t heared the same JP voice comparing to the EN lol 😂 I heard young girl for Focalors and Neuvilette JP and more mature like you say for the EN version. JP looks like Focalors is enjoying her situation and doesn’t seems to take it seriously when in the English version you are literally crying because it looks like a real farewell.
@川山鳥
10 ай бұрын
@@mabilleaudrey2154 Japanese people tend to prefer depictions of younger characters compared to English-speaking people. Characters with mature voices may be avoided if they sound older. On Japanese social media, some people said that EN-Neuvillette's voice was too thick and did not suit her delicate character. JP-Neuvillette's performance emphasizes his inner delicacy and unfamiliarity with human society and his own emotions. I'm Japanese, so I liked "Young Dragon King, Only 500 Years Old."
@shinramune9002
10 ай бұрын
@@mabilleaudrey2154cry about it. Many asians prefer JP ,CN or KR. Stop trying to force the "EN supremacy" on us
@samuelchensantoso9677
10 ай бұрын
@@mabilleaudrey2154But Neuvi and Focalor is "Young" in Archon/Dragon years, even if EN voice sound better, JPN have absolutely correct voice direction lore wise, also You would sound Playfull and not sad if You are a trickster like Focalor, and all of that is just to conceal Her inner sadness, there are layer within voices, its not a linear thing that You just hear and perceive as it is.
Neuvillette's voice in jp gives the impression of someone distant, that struggles to actually convey their emotions. It seems right to me that they have gone this way for him.
JP「日本語の良さ絶対伝わらないよな」 CN「中国語の良さ絶対伝わらないよな」 KR「韓国語の良さ絶対伝わらないよな」 EN 「英語の良さ絶対伝わらないよな」 感じ方は人それぞれなんだなと再認識した😮
@Kimazuine
10 ай бұрын
KRにしといたほうがええで
@jiujinlon
9 ай бұрын
确实是这样的
@2DONGURAMI
4 ай бұрын
それな
@C4rnage-n8u
4 ай бұрын
不,作为中国人,我认为这次是英文配音赢了😊
@violetaslanford5956
10 ай бұрын
EN and JP VA sounds like Focalor already expected and accepted everything which is in line with her story while CN and KR VA sounds like she's happy the end has come and is savoring the final moments due to the higher and softer pitch
@cookiefilling9934
10 ай бұрын
I like both perspectives! Even with the EN's more somber tone, she takes her last moments to dance, longing to be the human she's always wanted to be. And for the happier-sounding VA's, her dance feels joyous, making Furina's situation all the more upsetting.
@rjoestar6895
10 ай бұрын
Different voice actors and voice directors have different thoughts on every scene
@shadecross451
10 ай бұрын
For me EN VA is really doing a good job it just they need to improve whoever the one that gives direction to them.... furina EN voice its really good sometime it just like that one scene from 4.0 where she suddenly screech and screaming it kinda stain the character...
@user-uidsnh
10 ай бұрын
I kinda understand why she would be happy that the end has come if it meant saving all fontainian and finally freeing furina from all this burden
@Fleeing_sunlight
10 ай бұрын
한국 겁나 슬프게 이야기 하는건데..
@레서판다redpanda
9 ай бұрын
어떤 버전이든 처형당하는 장면을 4번이나 보는 것은 정말 슬픈일..
@albechu
10 ай бұрын
여기서 다들 자신이 살고 있는 나라를 칭찬하는 것을 보니 이번 마신 임무는 모든나라에서 잘 더빙 되었다는 것을 알 수 있었어요
@빅스비-v8i
10 ай бұрын
한국어 더빙의 음정이 높아서 기뻐보인다는 댓글이 많은데, 포칼로스의 목소리는 푸리나의 목소리보다 훨씬 고요하고 단조로우며, 침착한 목소리였습니다.
@Amazonfour_4
10 ай бұрын
오히려 기뻐보인다는게 끝을 기꺼이 받아들이면서 자신의 계획대로 끝마치는 것에 기뻐하는 포칼로스의 진정한 모습에 가까워보여서 좋았어요!
@Hi-xl2ec
10 ай бұрын
얼마나 신나면 춤이 절로 나오겠음...신난거 맞음.
@korean-ccs
10 ай бұрын
두렵지만 기쁘기도하며 애써 밝은척 하는 느낌 모두 담겨있습니다. 수메르 부터 너무좋음.
@NANA_IS_DOG
10 ай бұрын
취향 차이는 있겠지만 영어처럼 웅장한 목소리는 별로 안어울리는것같음 내가 아는 바병푸가 아니야.. 푸리나는 바보 병신이여야 한다고..
@Lee-ss2md
10 ай бұрын
@@NANA_IS_DOGㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@パンモドキ
10 ай бұрын
どの国の言葉でも、フォカロルスの声に優しさを感じて涙が出る
@miers2002
9 ай бұрын
Exactly, everytime I watch this cutscene, i always shed a few tears. The first time i played this i was crying for a whole three hours 😂😭
@eastlight4888
10 ай бұрын
각자의 나라의 문화를 잘 알고있다면 국가별로 느끼는 감정선에 대해 모든 국가의 성우는 완벽하게 표현하여 녹여냈음을 알게될 것이다. 취향이 다르기에 호감도의 우선은 갈리더라도 모두 훌륭합니다.
I loved Focalor's en voice so much, especially the difference between Furina's voice and Focalor's. Good, good touch. And hat's off to Neuvillette's en VA, he represented this scene perfectly: emotional, regretful, powerful and solemn. Literal chills.
@nxhida
10 ай бұрын
AGREE LIKE FONTAINE EN VA'S ARE SO GOOD!!
@IkikuroKidenai
10 ай бұрын
@@nxhida yeah for real! They chose them so WELL!
@chrisanonym3473
10 ай бұрын
Agree. Most of the time, I prefer EN voice. But some CN voice is also very good.
@IkikuroKidenai
10 ай бұрын
@@chrisanonym3473 agreed, agreed! Especially Zhongli's for example.
@pba7
10 ай бұрын
EN is by far the best in this case.
@annalisehua
10 ай бұрын
I loved the CN (which I play in), where Neuvillette's voice trembled not only with bitterness but also anger. Silent fury at Celestia and fate.
@kuroyukihime8777
10 ай бұрын
ya and JP Neuvillette's voice is to young cant match with CN VA
Honestly, I really like the JP voice acting, im not used to Japanese so it sounds a little off, but that is to be expected, it is probably my second favorite after EN ☺️
@wiloso-x4c
2 ай бұрын
한국어는 진짜... 너무 감정을 잘 녹여냈다고 느끼는게 포칼로스가 모든 걸 내려놓고 희생하려는 그 감정을 잘 넣었고, 푸리나가 진심으로 슬퍼서 흐느껴 우는 소리도 잘 넣었고, 느비예트의 최대한 슬픔을 참으려지만 마지막 한숨에 모든게 담기는 순간... 이 세 인물의 조합이 플레이하는 내 마음을 울렸다...
my favorite fontaine's cutscene, so emotional, I love the part "thank you furina for all you have done. from this moment on, please live happily as a human, just as I wished we could"
@조tpwls
9 ай бұрын
한국어 보이스는 약간 오히려 그 상황이 몇백년간의 계획대로 라는 듯이 처연하면서도 체념해서 받아들이는 모습이 잘 드러나는듯
@TheZoobZoobs
8 ай бұрын
oh damn, in KR you can actually hear her weeping on her seat, me heart...me soul...
@프터-x1q
10 ай бұрын
한국의 포칼루스의 감정이 후련함이 느껴지거나 기뻐보인다는 평이 많은데, 한국인으로써 푸리나의 감정연기는 웃는것처럼 보이지만, 누구보다 인간이 되길 갈망했지만 그럼에도 죽음을 맞이해야 하는 슬픔을 느비예트에게 보이고 싶지 않아 애써 웃는 것으로 보입니다. 인간 푸리나가 자신의 속마음을 숨기고 매번 밝은 척을 해왔던 것을 생각하면, 신 포칼루스 또한 비슷한 행동을 할 것이라 생각이듭니다.
@atravelerl9349
10 ай бұрын
The Kr va has always be more than expected, the tones are so right!🎉 Especially this time with Focalors, the voice sounds so closer in connection😇
I really love the CN and KR voices for Neuvillete. I really like the EN voice for Focalors because of how while Furina and her are the same person, they are vastly different and you could tell by the voices. The CN voice actor is also really amazing.
Feels like this is something lost in translation here, considering how CN Neuvilette is the only one that seem to have this bitterness or anger in his voice. Like he is angry at the heavenly principles for her hypocrisy also for causing the chain of events that ended with both Focalor's death and Furina's 500 years of suffering.
@Ppompuru
10 ай бұрын
I am so glad that I decided to choose a Chinese voice acting! I had thoughts of changing to English, because I liked Neuvilette VA the most, but after hearing Furina, I decided to choose Chinese. When I heard his voice tremble passing sentence, I got goosebumps! it was gorgeous
@ArchivedGeo
10 ай бұрын
Only CN? I thought EN did a great way of conveying his sorrow. The way how he takes that shaky breath, followed by his declaration of the verdict was perfect.
@dominustempus8969
10 ай бұрын
I felt like EN neuvilette had this too
@kur0hime658
10 ай бұрын
@@ArchivedGeo In my original comment i said CN is the only one that had anger in his voice, i didnt say anything about only CN conveying sorrow. So i am a little confused about your comment, did you reply to the wrong comment?
@HelloOnepiece
10 ай бұрын
@@Ppompuru Tocut the JP dub some slack, the VA probably used up all his anger for the AoT final already
@phatasm6351
10 ай бұрын
Good lord, Neuvilette's CN & KOR VA gave me chills.
@obolend_
10 ай бұрын
中配最有感覺! 水神成熟中帶點俏皮 納為萊特慎重中帶些悲傷 ,韓配這部分也是很讚
@저는그저엘린Elin
9 ай бұрын
Looking at the reviews, there are people who think they are happy because the Korean dubbing has a bright tone... However, the Korean Purina is an act that is happy to deceive Cheonri, but also has fear. Don't misunderstand everyone. The other translations were great too!
The part when she starts to dance towards death makes me cry every time. So touching and heartbreaking...
@uri-ec8uf
10 ай бұрын
정말로 모든것이 연극이었을 줄 누가 알았냐고...😢😢😢
@sephcantallejo7357
10 ай бұрын
Woah the Korean Neuvillete is giving me goosebumps
@PrograError
9 ай бұрын
Literal Justice Bao feels...
@desto13c
10 ай бұрын
Nubilet heaving breathing and his judgement, you can hear all the mix emotion (from a stoic dragon), add so much to the feel! Well done to the voice actors and actresses!
@lover2022
10 ай бұрын
I really bawled my eyes out while watching this cutscene for the very first time. I wanted to give Neuvillette a gigantic hug because I'm sad whenever he's sad. I'm still recovering from this Archon quest........
@silclov193
10 ай бұрын
Guess it would have killed it if there was a scene where furina hugs neuvillette and cries her heart out.
@miers2002
9 ай бұрын
i wanted to give furina a hug too, poor baby was not made for this 😭
@だいすきあんよ
10 ай бұрын
ヌヴィレット実装時日本では英語版のボイスが迫真すぎると話題になったけど逆もあるんだな
@ゲーム初心者
10 ай бұрын
どのバージョンも素晴らしい
@johnlambert1505
8 ай бұрын
My favs are JP Focalors and KR Neuvillette. For my taste, nothing can beat Korean oppa's voice for male voice acting, the same with JP seiyuu's voice for anime girl voice acting. I wish we could choose voiceover for each character like in widget.
@donghyeon__
9 ай бұрын
각 나라의 버전을 듣고 어색하다고 생각된건 없었습니다. 각 나라마다 푸리나의 목소리 톤마다 처형 전 어떤 감정을 가지고 있었을지 추측하는 재미도 있는 것 같아요. 폰타인 마신임무를 보면서 영화 한편을 본 듯 여운이 깊게 남아 지금도 찾아보고 있습니다. 정말 훌륭한 스토리였고 끝난게 아쉽지만 다음 스토리를 기대하며 꾸준히 원신 흥행하길 바라겠습니다!
All of the VAs did a great job, but the Chinese and Japanese versions literally gave me goosebumps. English is my first language, but I speak Japanese and play with that audio so I was already familiar with how the scene goes in that version. Neuvillette's JP VA did really well at conveying the emotions others have pointed out were present in this moment, but perhaps more subdued than other VAs which I feel fits both Japanese society (as it was localized for) and the character as I came to know him. Such an emotional scene T_T
@silverwishjet7271
8 ай бұрын
Chinese is always best since it is the ost
@rainl4750
10 ай бұрын
Very biblical quest. The reference to jesus and Noah's ark
@Rikisballs
10 ай бұрын
Isn't the entire game biblical? I don't play genshin, but I've noticed a bunch of stuff
@Aporiaa
10 ай бұрын
@@Rikisballs more like gnosticism to be specific but that sprouted off judaism and early christian beliefs i think
@rainl4750
10 ай бұрын
@@Rikisballs not truly. It's mostly gnosticism. And I get the archon's names are also biblical demon names. But Fontaine's quest are the most biggest and clearest of it being biblical and the whole plot of suffering for the people, a god sacrificing themselves to cleanse humanity's sins, furina being able to walk on water etc is a "messenger" of god, Noah's ark. So so many. Hence why this quest is so much more references to the bible. You don't see the other archon quest doing these lol
@Rikisballs
10 ай бұрын
@@rainl4750 Yeah I figured it was Gnosticism. Pretty cool actually. Do you know anyway I can catch up ok Genshin lore? I feel like playing the game would take forever, and right now I'm thinking of playing Star Rail
@rainl4750
10 ай бұрын
@@Rikisballs ashikai or klementime are super great theory/explaination channels. They got genshin's plot very accurately. As for cutscenes.... Hmm you can just see genshin KZitemrs playthrough. I had to sit through 4hrs + of rewatching genshin's current update quest just bcus I love the quest haha it feels like a movie
I loved the distinction between focalors and furina in the EN voice. The voice actress not only is very skilled, but she also understood the difference between them. This voice acting gave more depth to the archon quest's theme of "human" vs "divine", what makes someone with divinity different from someone without, and what the divinity really represents, and why gods could endure their longevity and knowledge. When I heard the dichotomy between how calm and omniscient the hydro archon sounded, and how human furina sounded, I felt even worse for her. It must have been hell trying to act like a being on a fundamentally different level from you.
@akirashirai9613
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, the impact of knowing the gap between their divinity and humanity really sticks, and it truly feels that Focalors is her own person. While the other versions were good in their own rights, my impression is just they are a calmer and wiser Furina (which is also true, but I still think Furina and Focalors should be fundamentally on very different levels)
@ngm6541
9 ай бұрын
ugh focalors and furina are the same person i dont think changing her voice like a mommy was a good touch. Focalors had a different voice similar to furina during the narration at the end of neuvillette's story quest. I think they changed the voice direction last minute
@blckorb6322
10 ай бұрын
The English VA gave me mom vibes, Japanese Gave me step on me vibes. Rest in peace Focalors.
@glennwhicaksono8209
10 ай бұрын
I can't help but felt innocent from focalor's Japanese VA, yet the English version of Hydro dragon sounds perfect
@MarineRX179
10 ай бұрын
I kind of find the voice don't fit Focalors appearance...if only she could dial it back a bit and sound a bit more like a young big sister version of Furina rather than mommy...
@miers2002
9 ай бұрын
@@MarineRX179 yeah, i can see that, but honestly idk its just me, but i kind of like it, it gives me the vibe that she is in control, and furina, almost like her "daughter" who is still experiencing what it is like trying to be a god, focalors has to dive her direction to help save fontaine
@manami8208
10 ай бұрын
韓国版のフォカロルスが後ろを向いて踊り出したシーン、凄く満足気と言うかやりきった感が凄く感じた
@TsunTze
10 ай бұрын
Eng and KR made tears.
@Iamaaaak
10 ай бұрын
😢😢😢
@dreameisters
10 ай бұрын
I really wish they sync the mouth movement with all languages
@LeviAckerman-kv3ee
10 ай бұрын
It's a pre rendered video, that means with 4 VA you ask for 4 different video, no way you wish for extra storage when it's already enormous 😂
@pangcihu
10 ай бұрын
It's a pity that their mouth movements are only synchronized with Chinese, because there is not enough storage space for the mobile phone.
@violetXI-ir4xg
10 ай бұрын
确实😂但是作为一个经常切换各种语言听语音的人,我的手机和我的电脑的内存都有点支撑不住了
@PrograError
9 ай бұрын
@@violetXI-ir4xg skill issue /jk
@TheGLEGaming
9 ай бұрын
Its interesting how JP adds a subbtle nosie to when the droplets approach Furina, meanwhile Korea full on has her audibly crying. Meanwhile En and Ch dont have any sounds st all for her.
@CinaraO-O
10 ай бұрын
Okay but Furina’s additional crying in Korean dub is literally so good like yeah she’s silently looking down but I imagine her to be sobbing quietly atleast
@janeyj97
10 ай бұрын
포칼로스 연기 진짜 4개 국어 전부 다 너무 잘 살린 것 같습니다... 감정이 다방면으로 느껴져서 넘 좋네요 ㅠㅠㅠ 그리고 개인적으로 느비예트 한국어 곽윤상 성우님 연기가 ㄹㅇ 압권이었다고 생각합니다 ㅜㅜ 특히 사죄를 선언한 후에 울음을 참는 듯 애써 숨 고르면서 한숨 내쉬는 부분에서 소름이 돋았습니다 😭😭👍
@vanivanila5168
10 ай бұрын
Focalors JP VA is so goodddd omg!! like she is already accept to die for her nation.
확실히 나라별로 느끼는 감정선이 다르군요 저는 한국인인만큼 한국 푸리나연기가 정말 좋았어요 한국인만 느낄수있는 특유에 밝은척하지만 슬픔이느껴지는 연기가 좋았습니다
@Stella10693
10 ай бұрын
저도요 ㅠㅠ
@BACKKAKA
9 ай бұрын
왜 한국어 얘기는 1도 없는지ㅠ
@잉구-e2f
9 ай бұрын
@@BACKKAKA중국보단 언급 많았으니까 된거지,,
@이동삼-z4s
8 ай бұрын
전 중국어 연기가 젤 좋은듯!
@betulkorkut5215
9 ай бұрын
The heavyness of the breaths, then the "People of Fontaine, your sins are forgiven" with the short cut comma and whisper like "are forgiven"... It feels like he could barely end his sentence. At the end we see him there still getting over it... Its so heavy
@betulkorkut5215
9 ай бұрын
There is so much to say man, amazing job, both animators and VA's and music team
@plora9846
6 ай бұрын
진짜 이 컷씬은... 그냥... 노래도, 성우 분들 연기도, 연출도 그냥 다 너무 완벽함.... 어느 국가 것이든..
@MerlinAstralyn
10 ай бұрын
I feel like the English va did an amazing job portraying somber sadness and acceptance. The way their hushed voice lingers. You can almost feel the sad “goodbye.”. Great job on their end.
@rozerose3151
10 ай бұрын
The CN version really hit different, the emotions i can feel how sad and angry neuvillete feel. It make me heartbroken for some reason 😭
@Horizon_ex
10 ай бұрын
It's such a sadness that neuv being the most powerful man in Fontaine but he can only watch what's happening. I feel the anger also includes being angry with himself that nothing he can do though he's powerful.
@raika_o
10 ай бұрын
どの国の声優さんも、フリーナって感じがして最高
@Bwe3
10 ай бұрын
This might be the first nation that been lead by other than archon? From now on
@saturnalia_
10 ай бұрын
the qixing runs liyue full-time after zhongli’s retirement and the knights of favonius are the ones in charge of mondstadt since venti doesn’t want to lead the nation, so it’s more like the third nation (if we don’t count khaenri’ah)
@shanedoesyoutube8001
10 ай бұрын
@@saturnalia_ but Fontaine is the first to be ruled again by a dragon sovereign
@246Trinitrotoluene_
10 ай бұрын
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 I don't think Neuvilette's intention will be to 'rule' Fontaine, rather he made it clear that he'll remain the Index for a prolonged period of time
@AxolPiezz
10 ай бұрын
@@246Trinitrotoluene_in his voiclines he says that he will continue to be the ludex while also being their leader
@saturnalia_
10 ай бұрын
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 that’s true, but OP didn’t specify their statement as the first nation to be ruled by a dragon sovereign. they just said “other than archon”, which counts organizations such as the qixing and the knights of favonius
@Dissapointed_Aether
10 ай бұрын
I like how the english focalors is the only one who sound like a mommy
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