The animation in the og actually looks way more expressive and cartoony compared to the mocap nightmare of a final result. Sure it’s not as polished as it could be, but keep in mind this was all done by an independent animation studio. If only it was under a different director, maybe they would’ve given us something actually decent
@cpab27
4 ай бұрын
It's because the investor workprints(the 2002 versions)were animated by Jeremy yates,which also worked on a lot of good animations for Jack and daxter and was the lead animator for uncharted 4,you can see some of his animations from the same time as 2002 food fight by looking up velocity 3,and just by searching for his name you can see his work on KZitem,he sure is quite a good animator and deserves more recognition
@retrogamelover2012
4 ай бұрын
@@cpab27 Plus, the mo-cap could have worked... Had it only been for the human characters and kept the "ikes" in the style of animation seen in the showreel.
@ninten360
4 ай бұрын
doesn't look much worse than Hoodwinked, in fact there's bit of animation that are actually better
@retrogamelover2012
4 ай бұрын
@@ninten360 Plus, at least Hoodwinked had a bit of a charm to it, in a rather PS1 cutscene manner.
@brookelynnwu8016
4 ай бұрын
Yeah like wtf happened. Every frame of the art is worse. It’s like the og had real human artists and the actual release had really bad AI copying their work.
@TobyNo1Awesomeness
4 ай бұрын
Did the original thing look good? Not really, but it definitely looked better than what we got
@PurpleGuy661
4 ай бұрын
Looks decent enough to wish something didn't happen to the project
@TobyNo1Awesomeness
4 ай бұрын
@@PurpleGuy661 The original thing reminds me of Hoodwinked in a way
@PurpleGuy661
4 ай бұрын
@@TobyNo1Awesomeness yea, would've looked that way if the director didn't butt in.
@BadringerGronger
4 ай бұрын
Someone stole most of the assets of the film, so they have to do everything in scratch.
@PurpleGuy661
4 ай бұрын
@@BadringerGronger actually, one of the directors *lied* about the assets being stolen. All that hard work that would've been great and that one director has to throw it out 🙄
@DarkOverlord96
4 ай бұрын
It really is astounding how night and day this is, like, the old animation just has more life into it. I've always been fascinated with the shot of Lady X setting her eyes on Dex as it's a good example of how much soul you can convey with just the eyes. Like, in the old animation you can how she's looking around the place with a shifty look in her eyes until she sees something that interests her... whereas in the final animation they just rotated her head with her eyes completely static and wide open. It really is a good example of how you can make CG animation look alive if you actually put effort into it.
@chrisbacon1275
4 ай бұрын
Someone noticed it! Even the way she messes with her hair in the next scene! The way her eyes close and the subtle movements that make her actually feel ALIVE. It makes me so sad the things these animators had to put up with as an artist who loves animation,
@Meeshilin_Man
4 ай бұрын
Even her pupils dilate nicely in the old animation
@Sinik__
4 ай бұрын
this feels like watching a comparasion between a n64 game and the ps4 remaster
@CTGReviews
4 ай бұрын
and the PS4 remaster is the older one
@Chinshellbuford
4 ай бұрын
Its like the cutscenes but it's actually functional and more lively than the ps4
@alchemistofsteel8099
4 ай бұрын
Is that sarcaism?
@JamiroquaiEnjoyer
4 ай бұрын
ironically the closest one you can get is Klonoa Phantasy Reverie remasters, just replace that n64 with ps1/ps2 and there you go
@GalekC
4 ай бұрын
@@JamiroquaiEnjoyer & it's "Wii" vs PSX/1 in that case
@uguu8483
4 ай бұрын
The saddest thing is that the 2002 version looks bad but still better than the final version.
@IneptOrange
3 ай бұрын
The thing is, that would have been semi-acceptable for 2002. I mean Hoodwinked came out in 2005, so this would have fit in somewhat. What absolutely wrecked it was being actually released in 2012.
@plaidhatter1674
2 ай бұрын
Well, it isn't bad looking so much as it is 2002 graphics and designs. It looks appropriate for 2002. It does NOT for 2012.
@billybarnett9518
2 ай бұрын
The 2002 version doesn't look bad, are you high?
@poweroffriendship2.0
5 күн бұрын
The animation isn't really shabby for a 2002 animation. The saddest thing is that all of Threshold Animation Studio's hard work on the movie got scrapped in favor for that unappealing motion capture.
@billybarnett9518
5 күн бұрын
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Whoever decided to change Daredevil Dan's design (probably Larrry) was high.
@OrimaJam
4 ай бұрын
The lady X intro scene will always get me, the lighting and better animation and actual facial animations all gone. Larry Kasanoff is really an executive, how else wouldn’t he get the animation medium?
@thet3083
3 ай бұрын
Aw, what's wrong? Was moving her eyes too much for the animators??
@OrimaJam
3 ай бұрын
@@thet3083 I’m not Larry Kasanoff
@plaidhatter1674
2 ай бұрын
The final film makes use of motion capture, and the thing was also redone from scratch for reasons that I frankly don't know anymore. Hence...this.
@OrimaJam
2 ай бұрын
@@plaidhatter1674 I know lol it’s obvious anyways, I said “Larry Kasanoff really is an executive” because he doesn’t understand animation which is why he switched to motion capture because he treats it like it’s live action, like a lotta executives! Larry would be into the Ai “animation” craze that execs do now because they do not care about animation, art etc. they just want a product, also the Rotten documentary also shows how Larry mistreated his staff. So overall he’s the evil, greedy exec stereotype
@Scrofar
4 ай бұрын
I can't believe the Poop Rat (aka Cheasel T. Weasel if you really care about names) actually looked appealing at one point in his miserable life. Hell, Dex would've had a chance to qualify as a cartoon crush had the early dev treatment been carried forward.
@Cherished.Beloved
4 ай бұрын
I'm curious, a cartoon crush as a human or a dog? Lol
@txwtw
4 ай бұрын
@@Cherished.Beloved yeah I wanna know too lmao
@lollikabosso.w.n7153
2 ай бұрын
"appealing" Buddy he looks bad either way
@GiabsCauws
4 ай бұрын
Well Animated Scenes: 0:26 0:38 (this might've been animated by yates, that being why its so good.) 2:05 (larry really wanted his scammy weasel to look well animated) 3:05 (his name was dexter) 4:22 (she is larry's wet dream, disturbing.) 5:03 (the designs are really nice, especially with the reflections) Notes: - Animating is hard, way harder than people might imagine, you must first get all the assets, then frame by frame tween it, that & directing and it'll take ages, dont trust anyone that says "because shrek was better", they've never animated before. This was budget. - The background enviornments look amazing, example being the itallian food section from the behind the scenes tape. it was definitely not the modellers or animators fault this movie failed, because by 2008 (when movie you see today was finished) everything had been redone. - Some of the animations look better than others, some were probably placeholders or something else entirely, but it probably would've been stabilized given it'd been made a movie (it was only a reel, contrary to what people would have you think.) - It being only a reel meant it was of no help to the animators, which would have probably needed to redo it on a whim to what larry would've wanted, even had things not gone mocap. He wanted it to look new, amazing and sponsorship-worthy. - Dont trust larry.
@Syiepherze
4 ай бұрын
5:09 looks great too
@gimo6881
4 ай бұрын
This one 1:15 Actually looks good and its really funny, unlike the other pf the Final release
@CreepinCrinoid
4 ай бұрын
the OG is even paced better in spots. the very first scene with the grocery store manager just quietly giving a knowing look before the transition is a lot better than having him basically say the equivalent of "what could possibly go wrong?!"
@DrGandW
4 ай бұрын
4:35 that guy's face just getting huge here I can't
@ryangagne5321
4 ай бұрын
From what I heard about Food Fight's production, I'm surprised that there's some surviving footage of the original/unfinished version. In case you didn't know, Food Fight was originally meant to come out in 2005, but the movie was deleted mid-production and believed to be an act of sabotage from another company. Which meant that the whole movie had to be rebuilt from scratch.
@Cruddy129
4 ай бұрын
Wasnt there rumours that it also included someone in the production team that literally stole most of the footage?
@TomTheyy
4 ай бұрын
@@Cruddy129 Interviews with crewmembers in the Rotten documentary reveal that was just a lie Larry made up to excuse missing deadlines.
@TomTheyy
4 ай бұрын
This was debunked. The only source for the movie being deleted comes from a "totally legit" anonymous Reddit account claiming to have worked on the movie. Actual crewmembers interviewed in the Rotten documentary debunk this claim the film was gone, Larry just switched direction to mocap. Who would even sabotage this movie? Even at its most optimistic, who would care that much about it? This wasn't a highly anticipated Pixar or Dreamworks move.
@AwesomeYena
4 ай бұрын
While graphically worse, the animation was better in the showreel.
@rjpc07
4 ай бұрын
I'm starting to see you everywhere now
@catscanhavelittleasalami
3 ай бұрын
"graphically" worse. We just be using words now.
@AwesomeYena
3 ай бұрын
@@catscanhavelittleasalami What do you mean? 🤨
@plaidhatter1674
2 ай бұрын
@@catscanhavelittleasalamiThey are right. The textures are worse. However, the way the models move is INFINITELY better.
@Goober353
4 ай бұрын
The old version definitely looks unfinished but you can tell it was gonna be way better than the actual final product
@tk-hf4oz
4 ай бұрын
Damn the notorious industrial espionage which took the 2002 quality from us. It wasn't perfect but miles better than the final release. Scene at 4:26 is proof enough.
@nobody-nq9yo
3 ай бұрын
Someone in the team:Hey guYs, EvEr heArd oF mOtiOn CapTurE?!!
@teejay5160
3 ай бұрын
That pretty accurately describes the director, incidentally.
@rocketremington2929
4 ай бұрын
The 2002 Looks better many times, Is More animated and expressive, the Shades, lights and camera angles are more detailed.
@D_LGND
3 ай бұрын
4:18 This is the best example on how the Showreel is more expressive and goofy while the final shows someone having a seizure on mocap
@andocoolxd5158
17 күн бұрын
2002's version actually looking competent is a true surprise, and the fact that what we got was a 10-year "remasterization" looking like… well, the disaster we all had the disgrace to witness and the one that reached cinemas, yet the OG remains partially lost and unknown is truly depressing.
@HolaMundoTheMisteriousAG
4 ай бұрын
4:52 This interaction fells more natural😂
@goORIOLES236
4 ай бұрын
Expressive, dynamic, cartoony, detailed, and it’s only just a showreel? Mind you, it’s still not *good,* and it still doesn’t excuse what happened during the later ten years of development, after it was stolen, but at least it’s *competent.* Could’ve probably passed for Hoodwinked-quality animation, if given more of a polishing.
@christomwow
4 ай бұрын
Not Oscar worthy, but the original looks lot better. I hope 1 day that this could be fully released.
@thejay8963
4 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, the original... well, everything, was lost in a file accident.
@teamstrangerstudio740
3 ай бұрын
Foodfight deserved to be rebooted as immersive sim
@thenyansquidman
4 ай бұрын
3:45 me when i suddenly become a dog
@gulorful8488
4 ай бұрын
It sucks how none of the comments mention how the ENTIRE film was deleted and they had to recreate practically everything from scratch.
@ZiggyCashmere
4 ай бұрын
There's a lot of comments mentioning that, lol. But it wasn't deleted.
@thejay8963
4 ай бұрын
@@ZiggyCashmere !?
@ZiggyCashmere
4 ай бұрын
@@thejay8963 the documentary I made explaining this is in the description of this video
@Buskeeeeeeee
2 ай бұрын
It probably wasn’t deleted. That sounds like a cover up story. My guess is the studio forced them to switch to motion capture as an easier option.
@420alfonzo6
4 ай бұрын
Saw the frog on the right got hit, then saw the one on the left get FUCKIN FLATTENED. The left one actually got a smile out of me for that.
@memesarekeem
Ай бұрын
People trash this movie and for good reason, but it's truly a tragedy. This could have been a beautiful, fun movie with heart in it. Part of that heart still resides, you can still feel it, it's just under loads of delay, mismanagement and underpayments.
@siahmcharper4380
4 ай бұрын
In my honest opinion, the 2002 showreel look like a lost media pc game.
@pummelweed784
4 ай бұрын
Look at the visual gags of the squirrel crashing his plane, look at how the cartoony pauses and exaggerated poses make the jokes actually land in comarison
@TheRadWarrior
Ай бұрын
Holy crap the 2002 showreel looks way better than the final result!!!!
@NightFighter88
2 ай бұрын
The Villain had better expressions, and was more sexy *MORE GOD DAMN SEXY AND WELL ANIMATED* 💀
@GalekC
4 ай бұрын
definitely not what for the one we got, but i could see myself vastly preferring this over something like Sauce-edge Party
@nottodaydevilshindowraithe501
2 ай бұрын
It's criminal. Another example of why mocap isn't always for everything.
@SW1TCHED-CHANNELS
Ай бұрын
You people have to realize, even if the animation didn't downgrade, the writing would still be buns.
@davidhileman8567
4 ай бұрын
I didn't realize that Marketropolis Market was gonna be named Carlson's Market. Would've been less redundant.
@the_maniac_jjpg
4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they didn't keep the 2002 animation style. I’m focused on that. The 2002 one looks like Pixar made it and the final looks like it was for a school project that people forgot to add shading details on.
@jamesbland5207
2 ай бұрын
From what I could guess, both movies use some sort of motion capture, but the Show reel exaggerates the movement.
@randkami8074
4 ай бұрын
The old one feels like it could've fit for a late PS1 game ngl Also rex originally being a human lol shame it went the way it went
@eleanorhogan8643
18 күн бұрын
This is not a film, this is a tutorial about how to make the worst and ugliest film ever. I mean this unholy ambomnation of nature makes the smurfs films look like the Mona Lisa (although I liked those films).
@That0neguy420
4 ай бұрын
Why does the 2002 Showreel actuskly look better than the final release on several levels dude??? How did they break the rules of animation so bad that the OLD ONE looks better???
@just-a-fox-from-2007
4 ай бұрын
Someday... We will see the good version of food fight...
@reohpelodes6441
4 ай бұрын
This is all but a minute of it.
@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi
4 ай бұрын
The way a change in animation style can change the entire feel of the movie is insane. I'm sure that if it stuck with being hand animated, the movie would still be flawed and overall bad, but it would probably just be forgotten instead of becoming infamous for it's awfulness. Glad we're leaving mocap in the past.
@THETWISTEDONE10
Ай бұрын
The original may not be as good, but it is a HELL of a lot better than this piece of cinematic cow shit we were cursed with.
@Nico-o1r
2 ай бұрын
Why the hell dose the original look worse 😕
@DominickChristensen
2 ай бұрын
Bro it's better looking
@Nico-o1r
2 ай бұрын
@@DominickChristensen I disagree
@Nico-o1r
2 ай бұрын
Buty and ugly are both opinions
@DominickChristensen
2 ай бұрын
@@Nico-o1r well they were made by a indie company in the 2000s making this movie
@Nico-o1r
2 ай бұрын
@@DominickChristensen ok
@riotbreaker3506
4 ай бұрын
Damn, it probably wouldn't have been good, but the original had so much more character and life to it.
@ericasutton3147
4 ай бұрын
Seriously. The 2002 trailer looked SO much better than the final product . Like why did they decide to half ass it at the last minute? Even if it wasn’t gonna be a good film. At least it would still look better. And watchable.
@jknifgijdfui
4 ай бұрын
I thought the movie got deleted or something
@reohpelodes6441
4 ай бұрын
@@jknifgijdfui The only source for that is some Reddit account claiming to be legit. Anyone could've made that.
@hazyhazel21
4 ай бұрын
It's pretty interesting that Cheazel has some of the only keyframed animation left in the final movie considering it was Kasanoff's favorite character. What software was used for the final version? His animation looks like it's missing details or it's broken in some way despite it definitely being the same sequence... same thing at 4:30. Did they have issues porting their rigs over from LightWave?
@TrueBuddhaCat
4 ай бұрын
While the OG animation still doesn’t look finished, there’s way more life and expression than the finished/lifeless/ god has forsaken us “animation” I can only imagine that the finished would have looked far more visually pleasing than the nightmare we got stuck with, though the story would still be just a copy cat of Toy Story and for some reason have elements of Casablanca in it as well
@Microcheez26
2 ай бұрын
I Felt Like If They Remade It With What Remains Of The Old 2002 Animation (And Build Off Of It Because We Have The Tech To Do So) With Better Graphics And Jokes, We Could Actually Have a Pretty Decent Movie!
@thecollectiveanimationarch9912
2 ай бұрын
Why put 7 minutes of 20 year old 480p animation amongst inconsistently different quality HD animation of now? They just wouldn't use any of the old animation at that point, especially when it was just meant to be a showreel rather than final film animation in the first place.
@Microcheez26
2 ай бұрын
@@thecollectiveanimationarch9912 we also have the software to upscale it, or they could get some really talented people to try and get real close to the early product
@MatiasMishel96
2 ай бұрын
It looks like an old videogame ported to a more modern engine but without being fully optimised for it. Like the GTA San Andreas Remaster.
@lunondisposable5382
3 ай бұрын
There's an alternate universe where Foodfight was a real movie and not just a punchline
@teejay5160
3 ай бұрын
A movie with largely the same script, mind you.
@MadameSomnambule
4 ай бұрын
Man, the expressions and movements in the showreel look SOO much more cartoony, it's wild that the final version turned out so bad. This just goes to show, mocap isn't ALWAYS a good idea when making the actual animation in a movie. For some movies like The Polar Express, Monster House, and even the 2011 Tintin movie, it can work well and fit the atmosphere. But not only does that not fit the cartoony designs nearly as well as it does for more semirealistic 3d art styles, they also clearly cheaped out altogether and the mocap combined with the lighting not being as good or atmospheric just ends up creating a mess that's funny to look at for all the wrong reasons lol. Like, the lighting in the Copa Banana and cityscape bits in the og legit looks good for 2002, the night time setting fits those scenes very well.
@luchounivers
2 ай бұрын
I must be the only one who has compassion for this movie, because I know the background of why it ended with a huge downgrade. Aside from the fact that it was an independent studio who created this, they obviously couldn't spend more.
@TomTheyy
2 ай бұрын
They only produced 8 minutes of footage for the original version, what do you mean?
@bztc1234
3 ай бұрын
4:50 what is charlie the tuna doing here? funny cameo
@x0electricspinel0x
4 ай бұрын
Seeing the downgrade in the animation is just sad
@Manticorn
4 ай бұрын
Lady X in the final reel: 👁️_👁️
@TheTrueSuper
4 ай бұрын
Ikr
@chayadol
4 ай бұрын
Funny how director claim that downgrade one was "the better" version lol A good of example of shitty visionary from crappy leader can ceate a trash outcome.
@TheTrueSuper
4 ай бұрын
@@chayadol what an idiot
@sonicexe66613
4 ай бұрын
I didn't like how Dan was just aggressively catcalling in the final version
@RariettyC
4 ай бұрын
They should show 4:25 in animation classes to demonstrate how just a few tweaks can make eyes not look dead
@dforman4770
4 ай бұрын
I’ve watched that scene few times cuz it’s a genuinely good animation. Those narrow fox like eyes, the smooth head movement, the subtle squinting. Hell, they even animated her pupils dilating. It’s shame that the animator wasted their talent on such a shitty movie and then it wasn’t even used. Double slap to the face
@ashegaming3530
4 ай бұрын
The whole thing's a good example of why *just* using mocap vs traditional animation results in uncanny nightmare fuel
@Tina-pl7qi
4 ай бұрын
That's not a few tweaks, they didn't animate anything on the second shot, it's just the head lifelessly rotating from keyframe A to Keyframe B
@cummywummiez
4 ай бұрын
I thought it was a cutscene from parasite eve at first
@leonidasgaitan9138
4 ай бұрын
Lady X looks like the Terminator to me 😂😂😂
@Brianna-eo8nu
4 ай бұрын
The animation of the 2002 showreel looks amateurish even by 2002 cg film animation standards, but the cartoony expressions are so much more lively and the lighting is more atmospheric. The stif and lifeless mocap and the flat lighting of the final speaks for itself.
@starsonapollo2
4 ай бұрын
amateurish as compared to who? disney? other multi-million dollar companies?
@blazicgd
4 ай бұрын
@@starsonapollo2 this film was 70 mil and still is like sub jimmy neutron quality at best
@LukeMM95
4 ай бұрын
@@blazicgd Most of the budget probably went to voice cast. It was a write off.
@fabtrash
4 ай бұрын
@@starsonapollo2Even Jimmy Neutron look better. The problem is that A LOT of money has been spent to make this movie, so it's disappointing that it ended up looking like that....even for its time it's ugly...although i can understand why (apparently only one person was macking the movie).
@wildbub
4 ай бұрын
The worst director possible.
@undyne1
4 ай бұрын
This movie could've been decent if the director was competent. You can mostly tell in this scene 4:22 that the older version had more soul into it. I always liked the old shot of Lady X scanning the room because it made her look "alive", while the final version looks dead and deer eyed.
@treyowen9213
4 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! 🤘🏻😍
@rickigityrekt1237
4 ай бұрын
It was a shame that the files were stolen, but for the most part the movie wasn't changed at all, just the visuals.
@DojimaNoKuma
4 ай бұрын
Based pfp
@thecollectiveanimationarch9912
4 ай бұрын
@@rickigityrekt1237 They weren't stolen, Larry just made that up and was really into mocap animation process, because he didn't understand animation.
@rickigityrekt1237
4 ай бұрын
@@thecollectiveanimationarch9912 OOF I never knew that
@saraschmidt5612
4 ай бұрын
The backgrounds and the city in general seem way more detailed and lively in the showreel than how they are in the final movie.
@emmayoung736
4 ай бұрын
Why does the old animation look so much better and more finished than the new animation?
@estenmaxwell2945
4 ай бұрын
Director ran out of money because he was inexperienced, lied and said the old film footage was stolen, then brushed it off on other people until it was released a decade later.
@sivanhedoesstuff
4 ай бұрын
Because the newer animation uses low-quality mocap
@Spike127
4 ай бұрын
@@estenmaxwell2945how can someone fuck up that badly massive L for him
@mrtesticlease4638
4 ай бұрын
@@estenmaxwell2945 wait it was released????
@ma.2089
4 ай бұрын
@@estenmaxwell2945 nah. He restarted the entire project cus he thought that mocap was better. He kept telling his workers to redo things, which explains the subpar final result.
@midgetwaffles8635
4 ай бұрын
4:25 Right here. This is my favorite shot in the original- her eyes look so expressive and alive here. It gives us a rundown of her entire personality in just a few seconds. Her pupils even dilate a bit too!!
@MrBackman85
3 ай бұрын
The fire looks so good too, but brand x is so damn interesting to look at due to her expression
@RockyRakoon
4 ай бұрын
4:27 the old model looks prettier. the lighting is better. the camera angle is better.
@DerekDark
4 ай бұрын
What ?!....
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Smile
4 ай бұрын
Not expecting to see u here
@ThrackerZ0d
4 ай бұрын
RockyRakoon jumpscare
@alfiewhitestone8676
4 ай бұрын
4:25 The left looks better than the right!! The right one looks like a *** doll!! -Nostalgia Critic
@TheMandalorianGhostYT
4 ай бұрын
Ayo! Rocky?!
@oojw8014
4 ай бұрын
4:25 wtf happened?? Look at the difference!
@AntonBildziuk
4 ай бұрын
the new one literally looks like a cheap action figure
@gliph13
4 ай бұрын
According to an interview, during the ass end of production, the source. Material mysteriously disappeared and was allegedly blamed on "corporate espionage." So they had to start over with less than half of the budget. No way to know if that's actually true or not.
@ashegaming3530
4 ай бұрын
@@gliph13 By the looks of it I'd believe something of that sort happened. They still had all the models and scenes on-hand but had to go with cheap mocap for the actual animation
@thecollectiveanimationarch9912
4 ай бұрын
@@gliph13 There is. Someone actually interviewed crewmembers for a documentary and they say the whole theft story was made up to excuse missing deadlines.
@Real_Faygo
4 ай бұрын
Ps1 ahh hair
@JonesDylan874
4 ай бұрын
Now, if this had come out in '02, people would've had a much different opinion on this movie...
@garrtoons4303
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'd probably call it an okay flick.
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa
4 ай бұрын
It would still be awful. Not as bafflingly awful as it was being released so late, but still awful. The script and premise are fundamentally rotten, slightly better animation can’t really hide that.
@rzecznik_
4 ай бұрын
If the script and plot were the same, it would still be considered bad, however, since animation also has the privilege of beauty, it would be considered a nostalgic bad movie, not just a bad movie.
@lrc3847
4 ай бұрын
@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa Yeah, would be awful, but end in the "So bad it's good" category.
@ssg-eggunner
4 ай бұрын
Apparently the og script had less bad jokes
@Syiepherze
4 ай бұрын
5:10 She looks so good here in the showreel wtf
@AmazingBananaBread
4 ай бұрын
I agree too :0
@midgetwaffles8635
4 ай бұрын
And she even had a tail!
@gimo6881
4 ай бұрын
This one Actually looks incredible... Not like the Final release. 1:15
@SonsOfHllor
2 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe, both look awful, one's just slightly less awful
@doodlestrudel1991
4 ай бұрын
Tbh Seeing Dex as a human makes more sense than him being a dog rlly No say but i think it's obvious: I prefer the 2002 Showreel animations
@rhyanabbott2909
4 ай бұрын
I’m confused as to why he turned into a dog near the end of the video lol
@PaintSplashProductions
4 ай бұрын
@@rhyanabbott2909 Maybe it was a placeholder model?
@Syiepherze
4 ай бұрын
@@rhyanabbott2909 They changed the concept mid-production
@txwtw
4 ай бұрын
Why do you think it makes more sense?/genq
@M50A1
4 ай бұрын
@@txwtwI guess since sunshine isn't a full on cat while dex is just a dog man, I think having him be a human makes it less weird
@hunterannett967
4 ай бұрын
The old animation has that hoodwinked charm
@jakespacepiratee3740
4 ай бұрын
I call that “Early Underground Animation Grunge”
@MysticMorigan1998
3 ай бұрын
I would agree, but I’ll go back to hoodwinked as an adult something even as a kid I thought I wouldn’t. But I know I wouldn’t like food fight 2002, but the one we got was just straight up revolting
@Buskeeeeeeee
2 ай бұрын
Honestly you can tell the animation in the first trailer was made with a higher budget than hoodwinked was.
@TheIzzlzzy
29 күн бұрын
YES
@maravreloaded
4 ай бұрын
The cat girl ACTUALLY looks like a neko-catgirl instead of a human with ears. And was WAY MORE ANIMU than a Sims 2 character.
@BUMBLEJAZZ10
4 ай бұрын
4:34 BRUHH The Showreel shows that it is an animated character, in the final version it is something that you would see inside hell itself
@kimuires
2 ай бұрын
Literally she has so much character in just those couple scenes I was truly trying to watch the final one but my eyes kept gravitating back to the left
@Max.Happy.
4 ай бұрын
4:39 It hurt me to see the difference in this part 💀
@Gnonne
4 ай бұрын
4:34 they dini’t even open his mouth
@theyakkomanguy7522
4 ай бұрын
The 2002 version is so much more lively and upbeat than the final 2012 release. I love the attention to detail they gave the backgrounds in the 2002 version.
@DangerAngelous
4 ай бұрын
The movie vs the tie-in game:
@JamiroquaiEnjoyer
4 ай бұрын
funny enough Foodfight did a tie in game but went unreleased and dissapeared as a lost media
@systemshocker2875
4 ай бұрын
Why do I suddenly want to see the unfinished version now?
@PurpleGuy661
4 ай бұрын
Its bothering me how the director just straight-up lied and scrapped all of this for the crap we have now
@_LemnZ
4 ай бұрын
@@PurpleGuy661 I thought it was because someone stole the original footage.
@Mam047
4 ай бұрын
@@_LemnZ people say it was a lie
@pittherson3260
4 ай бұрын
Seriously, i would love this
@TomTheyy
4 ай бұрын
@@Mam047 Correct. This was confirmed with interviews with the original crew members in the Rotten documentary.
@noone-mo6gy
4 ай бұрын
4:19 IDK why, but seeing him shake so fluidly in the original trailer is practically free therapy.
@LurkingM1nt
3 ай бұрын
Right?? it's my favourite clip that resurfaces, the rhythm and snappy pacing is so visually satisfying
@poweroffriendship2.0
2 ай бұрын
The way Dex popped his eyes and shaking cartoonishly in the original gives me the same vibe as Twisted Whiskers Show.
@LurkingM1nt
2 ай бұрын
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Bruh, I ain't ever heard that shows name in a LOOOONG time, wow
@AwesomeYena
Ай бұрын
@@LurkingM1ntMe neither.
@darealliam4421
4 ай бұрын
The OG version looks like it was animated by people that knew how to give characters actual character. The final release looks like they went on the internet and got stock motion capture animations to use instead
@plaidhatter1674
2 ай бұрын
They did use MoCap if I remember correctly. I really don't understand why they would scrap a version of the film that just looked better in every way.
@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945
4 ай бұрын
Everyone keeps talking about 4:22 but no one is talking right before it at 4:09 the staggering difference in quality. the first version the eyes have so much more depth and his face actually squashes and stretches with the expression, his ears swing and of course that little head tilt that adds way more emotion and personality
@bigfanofsb653
Ай бұрын
Why is his hand so small in the second one. Cartoon characters' hands are usually big because they're expressive. But I guess who however made the second model forgot about that.
@AndoWasHere
4 ай бұрын
Actually I know what happened just a theory but I think the mocap was a corporate decision by say "hey look we can use this mocap technology so we don’t have to animate it" and that probably explains why the final looks like this
@chaoticmemories
4 ай бұрын
Iirc that's exactly what happened
@JomasterTheSecond
4 ай бұрын
Literally that's what Larry wanted. I think there was a behind the scenes featurette that even said such a thing.
@chaoticmemories
4 ай бұрын
@@JomasterTheSecond Ig he wanted more realistic movement? Still sad the elder animation is now lost media cuz that shit looks really cooked
@Sr.Tweeter
3 ай бұрын
@@chaoticmemoriesActually, just one minute is missing apparently.
@OlPapPapSam
4 ай бұрын
1:15 cray how good the 2002 verison of this sequense looks. Especially in comparison to the actual film looks. It's quite sad, actually.
@Anon12077
28 күн бұрын
They did insist that the reason for the film’s poor quality was that there was basically something like “corporate espionage” where someone stole the completed versions of these early sequences (or something to that effect). Honestly seeing those 2002 clips, I can almost see that being the case, because nothing else in my mind can explain how they went so drastically backwards with the animations in 10 years!
@ZetaReticuli1.
4 ай бұрын
Art vs Fart
@txwtw
4 ай бұрын
Lady X actually looks so pretty in the original one omg especially at 4:54
@txwtw
4 ай бұрын
And at 4:49 when she’s looking at the penguin
@alejandrovegaocana
4 ай бұрын
@@txwtw emm, its a dolphin
@txwtw
4 ай бұрын
@@alejandrovegaocana oh sorry haha, it just looked like a penguin lol
@Meeshilin_Man
4 ай бұрын
@@alejandrovegaocana Excuse me, Charlie is a tuna fish. 😒
@mistertwister2000
4 ай бұрын
4:32 the cut off scream is fucking killing me
@marakarthegreat
4 ай бұрын
even thought the og animation from 2002 looks alot more dated than the final release, it still looks more expressive with its animation.
@circleinforthecube5170
4 ай бұрын
honestly the "dated" parts of the animation make it way easier on the eyes, the late 2000s either had great or shit animation, sometimes dated is better, like any 1970s-90s era interior design ever compared to the boring gray vinyl that coats everything today
@darkzeroprojects4245
4 ай бұрын
@@circleinforthecube5170 Sad thing Is I like that stuff and agree it's overused.
@Pine_Time
3 ай бұрын
4:10 was all I needed to see. Wow, the 2002 version just oozed charm that the final version just never had.
@maravreloaded
4 ай бұрын
The fact that the city is in nighttime makes sense if that's the store at night. Instead of being daytime at night.
@shoutsuo
4 ай бұрын
Ok, HOW IN THE WORLD DID WE OBTAIN THE 2002 VERSION???? I THOUGHT THAT WAS LOST FOR GOOD
@ThorDude
4 ай бұрын
Internet magic I guess. Either got leaked or somebody managed to dig it up from the depths of the web.
@plaidhatter1674
2 ай бұрын
In an interview, it was debunked. I thought it was stolen too.
@lollikabosso.w.n7153
2 ай бұрын
Explain what had happened sir, Im top tired and lasy to look it up
@TVgoodies
2 ай бұрын
@@lollikabosso.w.n7153 Basically the director lied about the footage theft, he just scrapped the original version in favor of Mocap.
@lollikabosso.w.n7153
2 ай бұрын
@@TVgoodies so we all have been bamboozled, there was no theft of footage, just our attention
@TubbyTarchia
4 ай бұрын
Not only is the animation considerably more expressive, beautiful and pleasant, but I also prefer the lighting/color and character design in a lot of these shots. It's such a shame. But I'm glad to at least be able to see how the movie was going to look originally. Props to the animators whose work ended up getting scrapped, especially when it was scrapped for something vastly worse
@kjw21411
4 ай бұрын
Wait, was Dexter originally going to be a human? Some of the 2002 scenes show him as one
@mjangelvortex
4 ай бұрын
He was. They changed him into a dog during production.
@ZiggyCashmere
4 ай бұрын
The majority of animation shown on the left was found by me by contacting various crew members during the making of my documentary on the film, ROTTEN. kzitem.info/news/bejne/2Z14tW2ZbIl8fH4 To answer some commonly asked questions, no the footage was never actually stolen. There were reports of a break-in that was investigated by the FBI however what was deemed "stolen" reportedly reappeared the next day. The same animation that was supposedly missing was still shown to investors afterwards. This was likely all an excuse to avoid oncoming deadlines and convert the entire production to motion capture in late 2004. As for Dex being a human being, he was originally a human starting from its conception in 1997 until around 2002 when he was changed to a dog to be more appealing. We're not entirely certain when the animation reel on the left was created, but the majority was likely completed in 2001. Also, no more than approximately 7 minutes of animation was completed before it was retooled for mocap. There is no full movie to find. It never existed in the first place. You can find an archive of what I've found in the description of ROTTEN as well as the pinned comment which has a playlist with the animation above along with a few other things. Also, part of the above video was stolen. The formatting as well as the comparisons on Daredevil Dan and Weasel were done by @3GoldBalls kzitem.info/rock/ZlEhlO_JbU4OWqI3n4Xajw?app=desktop
@ShiftyStyle
2 ай бұрын
Unironically, this could've had a similar vibe to Hoodwinked where while the visuals weren't the greatest, it could've been a nostalgic film that you'd have been glad you watched at the time.
@isaiahchapman7660
4 ай бұрын
Imagine an alternate universe where that person that stole the original assets didn't. Food Fight would have been known as a decent kids movie.
@ToonfieldAnimations
4 ай бұрын
Did you know that "stolen" claim has actually been debunked since then? Several crew members have spoken out about it, suggesting "it was just a lie made to excuse continuing to miss deadlines."
@isaiahchapman7660
4 ай бұрын
@@ToonfieldAnimations Ah. Didn't know that.
@boi7316
4 ай бұрын
It's not stolen, the director was just too incompetent and we ended up having the finalized movie on the right.
@rattyeely
4 ай бұрын
Um. While it looks better, I still wouldn't call this "decent".
@chessecontainment
3 ай бұрын
This movie had the potential to be a more adult and satirical version of "who framed rogger rabbit"
@rog4532
4 ай бұрын
For 2002 cgi, it looks pretty decent. Definitely better than the Final Cut.
@crestofhonor2349
4 ай бұрын
For 2002 it looks pretty bad. There were better looking CG TV shows. However it looks much better than the final release even if it's less technically advanced in many areas
@plaidhatter1674
2 ай бұрын
@crestofhonor2349 Most of those were top notch. This probably was more average visual quality. The annoying part was the 65 million dollar budget delivering a movie that looked pretty good for 2002, but had a bad plot
@sky-trevishere9638
4 ай бұрын
This is just depressing when you realize what happened behind the scenes.
@andresespinosa6517
4 ай бұрын
About the director switching to a different direction that ruined the movie?
@ToaAxiomMan
4 ай бұрын
Carlson's Market has a bit more of a ring to it then Marketopolis Market, which makes it sound less redundant
@PeaceGrrl
4 ай бұрын
Ahh so there was 65 million dollar budget
@Time-to-time-h1h
4 ай бұрын
2002's showreel gives me vibes of the looney tunes back in action game cutscenes
@karinadelma
4 ай бұрын
It was release before the Back in action release 2003 and was actually good if not better than ever.
@Most_Jeffinitely
4 ай бұрын
Whe way she scanned the room at 4:28 looks better on the left, she has life it looks like, on the right she quite literally looks like a robot scanning the area
@luigicrossdressing9746
4 ай бұрын
Yeah... That Lady X is better than the final movie. Even more sexy, if I can say it
@vannydemon
2 ай бұрын
@@luigicrossdressing9746 fr
@skibot9974
4 ай бұрын
2:35 wonder why they changed Dex into a dog
@ThompsonSteamtrain
4 ай бұрын
2:57 guns N’ Roses welcome to the jungle song has been muted due to copyright laws
@Dragonrider1227
4 ай бұрын
Why is the dog character human in some shots?
@tylerkirkland2045
4 ай бұрын
He was originally human in concept
@edertv18077
4 ай бұрын
3:54 here the dialogue is the same, but the dubbing is different, curious... Although human Dex would have been more interesting and mysterious than dog Dex
@txwtw
4 ай бұрын
Tbh yeah he would’ve been a lot more mysterious and intriguing, like who is this man? What food product is he meant to represent? Or maybe he’s not from a food product, where did he come from? What’s his backstory?
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