I wish I was present for this one as it's my favorite board game! And Paul's commentary at the end is spot on, the game is amazing at 4 despite the length. Early reviews years ago did not catch on that the long combat is worth the downtime or length spent as it is more than simply roll more dice or mitigate dice better. There's strategic action planning that affects combat more than what you roll and draw. Things for the audience to note. Although Paul is right and the rules are streamlined for a combat strategy game of this type, it is a rules heavy game despite how quickly both players picked through the rules. At 59min and 1:59 even if you had the material you can't resolve a strategize token unless you have a friendly unit or building in the system. 1:20 space marines had 6 total damage, not 4, so one more chaos ship had to explode. At the end of the first ship combat 1:28, all retreating units must rout. 1:32 Chaos only rolls 7 dice for 2 Chaos Space Marines and 1 Cultist, but that may have just resulted in a faster combat end and less cultists on the board through cardplay. 1:52 you would draw your combat cards before deciding on reinforcement use. 2:25 you can't bombard diagonally. 2:38 event cards are always resolved in turn order and if you didn't have a token, you just resolve the top card's warpstorm and not the text effect. 2:51 Chaos didn't need to spend the event card as the 5th damage routs the big ship. 3:03 technically the scout was routed so the bottom effect didn't count, but no effect on the end of the battle. 3:21 combat cards were played out of atk/def order but no consequence, chaos has to retreat to the 2 material world or lose units, can't choose uncontrolled world first (the retreat rules are complicated).
@joannarichmond7166
Ай бұрын
Great playthrough! Thank you both.
@georgioschalikias4883
2 ай бұрын
Loved this game !!! You refreshed my memory and now I am playing it on Saturday
@richardwoods4995
2 ай бұрын
This is my gaming groups most played game ever, we love it. Though I don't enjoy it as much at 2 or 3 players. 4 players is where it really shines, those games are absolutely epic! Since we are all familiar with the rules a 4 player game takes us about 3-4 hours. Fun fact, the action token placement in this game was partly what inspired Abe Burson to come up with the hidden bidding worker placement in the forthcoming Luthier game.
@AmigaFanatic1980
2 ай бұрын
Real shame that not too long after this was released that FF lost the WH licence, would have loved to see an expansion for this
@sicsided
2 ай бұрын
The fan made ones are pretty good. Especially Galaxy in Flames
@sanderschippers2708
2 ай бұрын
Never playd it but it looks really fun. But it is hard to get a copy since they are out of print. Just like Chaos in the old world.
@paintingwithmartin
2 күн бұрын
The Space Marine faction should start with an extra Bastion to balance the game according to the designer. I have play tested this a number of times and it takes them from being meh to being much better. There are also not only one but two official errata from the publisher and they really clarify a number of things in the rules.
@GamingRulesVideos
2 күн бұрын
Good to know. Do you have any links to this information. YT might not let you add links here though, but if you can tell me where the info is.
@paintingwithmartin
2 күн бұрын
@@GamingRulesVideos Google "Errata Forbidden Stars". There is one on BGG as well. There is also a thread on BGG about Space Marine and an extra Bastion. Overall the game is great and a worthy successor to StarCraft the board game (really hard to get that game though).
@DevonTalksTabletop
2 ай бұрын
I have loved this game for years. It’s so good. So so good. My only cautionary suggestion about painting the minis is you lose the easy visible recognition of the board state and whose troops are where. I will play this at a convention with you!
@GamingRulesVideos
2 ай бұрын
Yep. I will need to ensure that I don't lose anything by painting them.
@sebastiang.5032
2 ай бұрын
The one FFG game I'd love to play today.
@user-vj8jz7xv2l
2 ай бұрын
Love your stuff, and love that you’re playing Forbidden Stars. But, learning on the fly for the video? You’re mad 😂
@GamingRulesVideos
2 ай бұрын
I actually tried this a few years ago and the feedback was overwhelmingly positive. So, whilst I don't do these very often, sometimes it is the only way. If you saw what else I did last week (12 streams in total), there simply wasn't enough time to learn all of them in advance. I'd never do this for a sponsored video of course :)
@ricknvictoria
Ай бұрын
I thought we did OK. :)
@jubiler4068
2 ай бұрын
Hi Paul :) You were both confused why the rulebook says "The attacker reveals and resolves his combat card. Then, the defender reveals and resolves his combat card" I guess it may matter sometimes. When the attacker has to resolve his combat card it is good that he does not know what symbols and what actions will be delivered by defender. The defender receives a little thing because he was attacked. Maybe the attacker will be surprised because he chose 2 guns instead of 2 shields or 1 shield instead of 1 guns or whatever else. What do you think? :)
@GamingRulesVideos
2 ай бұрын
Yep. Thanks. I understood it once we’d started playing.
@jubiler4068
2 ай бұрын
@@GamingRulesVideos Ok, perfect :) Because of that is it possible to organize a rematch? Someone has to win!
@npckse8508
2 ай бұрын
So I saw on BGG that the designer is releasing the game with an original IP that he controls and will include new factions.
@opatxc78
2 ай бұрын
Got a link to the post?
@Dogma-mr7bq
2 ай бұрын
Best with 4 Players.❤
@somerandomperson8282
2 ай бұрын
True but 2 players is also really, really good.
@Dogma-mr7bq
2 ай бұрын
@@somerandomperson8282 One of the rare battle focused games which works as well with three players caused of the changing borders. Really well designed.
@somerandomperson8282
2 ай бұрын
@@Dogma-mr7bq it definitely works as well with three players, but then you just get a little bit of the imbalance that you don't get with two or four players. However, it's still fun as you say.
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